Losing Streak Watch

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Currently at 6 games, tied for the 14th longest streak in team history.

The Spurs record losing streak was 13 games during the ‘88-‘89 season. They also had a 7, 8 and 9 game losing streak that same year. Only one streak ahead of them, an 8 game losing streak in 2019-20, occurred after the ‘97-‘98 season.

Three more losses moves this team up the list quickly, and puts the Spurs in a tie for their 3rd longest losing streak ever. I think if they can continue to not bear down, and not try, that record is theirs! Good stuff for the tank!!

Geaux Spurs Geaux!!

[libertarian4321]

Spurs need to trade for Boban. Houston would probably trade him for a box of breakfast tacos and a 12-pack of Lone Star.

Pop should start him. Embrace the tank! Make losing fun!

Next year, Boban becomes Wembanyama's buddy/mento and goes back to the bench.

[slick'81]

Just keep losing

[playbonner15]

Spurs need to trade for Boban. Houston would probably trade him for a box of breakfast tacos and a 12-pack of Lone Star.

Pop should start him. Embrace the tank! Make losing fun!

Next year, Boban becomes Wembanyama's buddy/mento and goes back to the bench.

Indeed, Boban with the team would make the losses more bearable... Might even fill some empty seats :bobo

[rascal]

I expect The Spurs to break their all time longest losing streak this year.

[spurs1990]

Not just losing but getting smashed. 13 losses average out to 19.7 pts margin loss each.

Losses by 43, 37, 31, 27, 25 and 22. They’re actually -10 pg overall even with six wins factored in, 3 pts worse than Detroit and Houston.

They’re doing it well gotta hand it to them.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

7 games in a row. Tied for 9th longest Spurs’ losing streak of all-time.

[baseline bum]

Better to be complete dogshit than constantly the 9 to 11 seed and get stuck drafting scrub ass bitches like Primo. Hopefully doesn't take too long to get a star talent or two in the draft.

[slick'81]

Inching closer to yama

[rascal]

The players are starting to embrace the Front Office tank.

They see the front office sitting guys with minor injuries and are playing disinterested.

[poopbox]

All this so we can get the 4th pick in the draft. Oh well...maybe whoever he is will one day be as good ad Dejounte.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

8 games…now tied for 4th longest losing streak in team history. Moving on up!!

[horseshue]

Quest for victor continues. Just one game behing detroit for top seed in tankathon standings. Well done. :bobo

[slick'81]

Okc up next coming off a loss to houston

[WarAngel]

Let us 'Brick for Vic'

[Thomas82]

Let us 'Brick for Vic'

I'm with it!!

[John B]

Let us 'Brick for Vic'

Brick for Vic sounds catchy to me :bobo

[tonight...you]

Spurs need to trade for Boban. Houston would probably trade him for a box of breakfast tacos and a 12-pack of Lone Star.

Pop should start him. Embrace the tank! Make losing fun!

Next year, Boban becomes Wembanyama's buddy/mento and goes back to the bench.
Love this idea.

[slick'81]

Ship poodle and jrich the f out and just lose every game from here :lobt:

[mikec]

Let us 'Brick for Vic'

I can get behind this chant.

[rascal]

All this so we can get the 4th pick in the draft. Oh well...maybe whoever he is will one day be as good ad Dejounte.

No, Spurs will have a great shot at the top 2.

[KingKev]

Ship poodle and jrich the f out and just lose every game from here :lobt:

The crazy part is we still are horrible with them. I thought bith were ceiling raisers but it’s
marginal. If you can’t get a decent FRP for Jak might as well keep him and still be a bottom 5 team.

[cd98]

The title of this thread is so pejorative. I prefer calling it the Lottery Winning Streak Watch.

[Chomag]

And there were some here saying that Spurs are fine and didn't need to tank for a lottery talent...

Y'all know who y'all are.

[tonight...you]

The crazy part is we still are horrible with them. I thought bith were ceiling raisers but it’s
marginal. If you can’t get a decent FRP for Jak might as well keep him and still be a bottom 5 team.
Not that crazy when they show themselves semi-competent at the beginning of the year at full strangth and win some games and then players are pulled for every single game thereafter.

These guys haven't fielded a full team a single game since I can remember after that fast start.

What does this say...

They got some guys that can win some games right now.
Take away one, or two of the mains?
Disaster.

So that's where they sit.

Full team, they can do things. Win some.
Take away from that and then we get what we got.

[KingKev]

Not that crazy when they show themselves semi-competent at the beginning of the year at full strangth and win some games and then players are pulled for every single game thereafter.

These guys haven't fielded a full team a single game since I can remember after that fast start.

What does this say...

They got some guys that can win some games right now.
Take away one, or two of the mains?
Disaster.

So that's where they sit.

Full team, they can do things. Win some.
Take away from that and then we get what we got.

Injuries are part of the game.

[tonight...you]

Injuries are part of the game.
Yeah, but...
You think the Spurs injury reports recently are entirely truthful?
Every single game two, or three guys are out and this is a young team and it's a rotation of players.

[KingKev]

Yeah, but...
You think the Spurs injury reports recently are entirely truthful?
Every single game two, or three guys are out and this is a young team and it's a rotation of players.

Good question. I hope they are strategic injuries. That tells me PATFO have a plan back to winning basketball.

[tonight...you]

Good question. I hope they are strategic injuries. That tells me PATFO have a plan back to winning basketball.
Well... you have been paying attention to how they've tended to the injury line, yes?
It tells a tale.

[KingKev]

Well... you have been paying attention to how they've tended to the injury line, yes?
It tells a tale.

I’m not sure dude. One thing PATFO does well is protect their players. They could have rested DJ down the stretch last year but they didn’t. I think Keldon and Vassell have actually been banged up versus strategically tanking but it is more likely a bit of both.

[tonight...you]

I’m not sure dude. One thing PATFO does well is protect their players. They could have rested DJ down the stretch last year but they didn’t. I think Keldon and Vassell have actually been banged up versus strategically tanking but it is more likely a bit of both.
To be sure:
Nothing can be definitively taken from the amount of evideence we're given.

[exstatic]

And there were some here saying that Spurs are fine and didn't need to tank for a lottery talent...

Y'all know who y'all are.


It’s not about winning the lottery, it’s about winning the lottery the right year. It would have been pointless to win the lottery last year. There was no clear franchise anchor.

[FutureMan]

Just a Snapple fact about this current losing streak of 8 games. 8 or more loses in a row has only happened 8 times for the Spurs. Those seasons led to the Spurs drafting the following players:

Duncan - HOF - 5 titles - 15x Allstar - picked 1st
Robinson - HOF - 2 titles - 10x Allstar - picked 1st
Elliott - 1 title - 2x Allstar - picked 3rd
Robertson - 4x Allstar - picked 7th
(Reggie) Johnson - traded after a season and a half - lasted 7 seasons total - picked 15th
Vassell - ??? - picked 11th

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

https://i.imgflip.com/72l6zt.jpg

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

This was a tough one, but we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and add another loss to the total! OKC was no match for our ability to lose a winnable game. 9 and counting! Third longest streak in team history!

Oh….yeah!

[Thomas82]

This was a tough one, but we managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and add another loss to the total! OKC was no match for our ability to lose a winnable game. 9 and counting! Third longest streak in team history!

Oh….yeah!

The 3rd longest streak and our first time losing this many since the 1988-89 season.

[exstatic]

If we can drop the upcoming game to Houston, we could jump into the #3 spot.

[rjv]

it turns out that the most gut-wrenching thing i watched last night wasn't "All Quite on the Western Front".

[slick'81]

If we can drop the upcoming game to Houston, we could jump into the #3 spot.


big IF

[rjv]

big IF


yeah, every time that I think the Spurs are going to take the #1 seed in the tank tourney, the rockets say "hold my beer".

[exstatic]

big IF

Jakob has a bone bruise, which means he’ll be out for a while. That pretty much means that the restricted area is a turnstile. They’d have to not drive to not score at the rim.

[slick'81]

If we beat the rockets im going to be pissed

[exstatic]

If we beat the rockets im going to be pissed

Detroit won a game, and dropped from 1st to 3rd. It’s a razor thin margin.

[MultiTroll]

Appears Popped has gotten over himself and has embraced the tank?

OKC game.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

10 in a row. Tied for the second longest streak in team history. This one was pretty much decided in the third quarter.

Next milestone: 13 losses in a row way back in the ‘89 season. Go Spurs Go! :flag::flag::flag:

[Thomas82]

10 in a row. Tied for the second longest streak in team history. This one was pretty much decided in the third quarter.

Next milestone: 13 losses in a row way back in the ‘89 season. Go Spurs Go! :flag::flag::flag:

Let's get it!!

[mikec]

Great loss. Loving it. Let's do this!!!

[Thomas82]

The Rockets just beat the Suns!! That win puts them a half game ahead of us in the standings.

[Thomas82]

Just 1 game behind Orlando for worst record in the NBA.

[MultiTroll]

Jakob has a bone bruise, which means he’ll be out for a while.
Are the bottom 4 Lottery (4 with most losses) all at an even 14% chance?

[SpurPadre]

Are the bottom 4 Lottery (4 with most losses) all at an even 14% chance?

Bottom 3. 4th worst has a 12.5% chance.

[slick'81]

I watched every game in '96/97. It is very hard to watch this team

[Thomas82]

I watched every game in '96/97. It is very hard to watch this team

Agreed!! It's much harder to watch this team than it was back then.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Big night for the tank. Both Houston and Charlotte won. Spurs now in the bottom 3.

[exstatic]

I watched every game in '96/97. It is very hard to watch this team

I can grit my teeth for the nearly inevitable loss, but I haven’t seen Keldon smile in like a month.

[John B]

Spurs are now 3rd in L column with 14% chance to get top 1 pick according to tankathon.com :hungry:

[John B]

I watched every game in '96/97. It is very hard to watch this team

In 1996/97 you know they’ll be back the following year when DRob gets healthy. This time is a looong process and we’re not certain what lies ahead. The “losing” is also putty’s damp on the player’s spirit particularly Keldon.

[slick'81]

In 1996/97 you know they’ll be back the following year when DRob gets healthy. This time is a looong process and we’re not certain what lies ahead. The “losing” is also putty’s damp on the player’s spirit particularly Keldon.

losing definitely aint fun

[spurs1990]

That Mavs team 30 years ago started out 4-57, and the following year 1994 started 2-39.
1998 Nuggets were also 2-39 at one point.

As far as streaks, there’s the ‘10 Cavs and ‘14 Sixers 26 game losing streak to chase.

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[Sugus]

I started out the year kind of skeptical about the tank, not wanting to hype myself up at the idea of maybe landing Victor. But ever since the Primo fiasco, it looks like the team is straight-up looking for their next cornerstone - and they sure know where to look!

Excellent year to finally commit to the tank, and even better with the rotating "injuries" and not flat-out burning the team up. We'll see what happens at the trade deadline, but I'm very content at the way the season is going so far.

We get Victor and maybe another pick in the draft, develop them a couple seasons, and it's back to the races. :hat

[buttsR4rebounding]

It really looks like the players have gotten the memo. Even though players don't have any incentive to tank (as they will likely be jettisoned at some point) they are playing like they have bought into the concept. Utter lack of effort.

[KingKev]

This losing streak is beautiful. I also enjoy that sniffers are realizing Keldon and Vassell are simply putting up numbers on a talentless team. Maybe they are part of the future or maybe they are assets to be moved to continue the rebuild.

[exstatic]

This losing streak is beautiful. I also enjoy that sniffers are realizing Keldon and Vassell are simply putting up numbers on a talentless team. Maybe they are part of the future or maybe they are assets to be moved to continue the rebuild.

I don’t think anyone said they were franchise guys, just maybe an All Star selection down the line. We had DD for 3 years, he’s made a number of all star teams over the years, and multiple all nba teams, and we missed the playoffs his last two years. One all star won’t make the difference if there isn’t a franchise guy.

[John B]

Currently 3rd on the L column, 14% chance on a top 1. I can’t wait for Blake to be back. All 3 rookies should be averaging 30+ minutes out there.

[exstatic]

Currently 3rd on the L column, 14% chance on a top 1. I can’t wait for Blake to be back. All 3 rookies should be averaging 30+ minutes out there.

Malaki was mainly known as a shooter, hasn’t shown that, but he has some sneaky good handles and creativity. Another kid who just is in the right place, doing the right things in limited minutes. He was a 41% shooter from long in college, so I’m pretty sure that will come around.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Malaki was mainly known as a shooter, hasn’t shown that, but he has some sneaky good handles and creativity. Another kid who just is in the right place, doing the right things in limited minutes. He was a 41% shooter from long in college, so I’m pretty sure that will come around.

I think that he hasn't adjusted to the extended range. It seems like he is consistently short on his misses.

[John B]

Malaki was mainly known as a shooter, hasn’t shown that, but he has some sneaky good handles and creativity. Another kid who just is in the right place, doing the right things in limited minutes. He was a 41% shooter from long in college, so I’m pretty sure that will come around.

I like that he’s having opportunities to work on his handles, maybe getting more aggressive instead of passively waiting for a pass.

[exstatic]

I like that he’s having opportunities to work on his handles, maybe getting more aggressive instead of passively waiting for a pass.

I was checking his stats on bbref, and while 100% of his 3s are assisted, only 23% of his 2s are assisted. Shot creation is a pretty advanced skill for a rookie. He also understands how to dribble into space to pass, not just to shoot.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Even with 11 straight losses the competition for a bottom three finish is intense! Luckily I think this group is up to the challenge!!

[KingKev]

Even with 11 straight losses the competition for a bottom three finish is intense! Luckily I think this group is up to the challenge!!

Deep down they are the challenge!!!!

[MultiTroll]

.250 = current Spurs win %
.266 = 1997 Pop win % as birth of the Tim Duncan dynasty was being formed.

Pop just may be on this.

[slick'81]

.250 = current Spurs win %
.266 = 1997 Pop win % as birth of the Tim Duncan dynasty was being formed.

Pop just may be on this.


his going away present, tbh

[playbonner15]

Even with 11 straight losses the competition for a bottom three finish is intense! Luckily I think this group is up to the challenge!!
it's a race to the bottom :lol

[slick'81]

Can spurs out tank the rockets and make it 12 straight losses?!Tune in Thursday to find out

[poopbox]

This losing streak is beautiful. I also enjoy that sniffers are realizing Keldon and Vassell are simply putting up numbers on a talentless team. Maybe they are part of the future or maybe they are assets to be moved to continue the rebuild.

Historically when a team tanks almost no players on the original tank team are still here when the team is good.

[mikec]

Rockets beat 76ers! Great news.

[exstatic]

Rockets beat 76ers! Great news.

Yeah, they’re now slotted at #5. Very important for the Spurs to drop Thursdays game.

[John B]

Spurs are #2 this morning in L column according to Tankathon. That guarantees us top 6 pick.

[slick'81]

Just lose baby!

[Thomas82]

Yeah, they’re now slotted at #5. Very important for the Spurs to drop Thursdays game.

Yeah, Thursday is definitely a must-lose game for us.

[slick'81]

Yeah, Thursday is definitely a must-lose game for us.

Every game against the shit teams are

[NASpurs]

Has it been mentioned that this team, so far, has the 4th worst point differential of all time in the NBA?

*edit* Yes it has been mentioned.

[Thomas82]

Every game against the shit teams are

Most definitely!!

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

https://i.imgflip.com/72l6zt.jpg

:pop:

[ginobilized]

I'm starting to think that we are embracing the tank and are going to be in the best position to get a top pick.
Last time I checked we have the 2nd worst record in the league.

[exstatic]

I'm starting to think that we are embracing the tank and are going to be in the best position to get a top pick.
Last time I checked we have the 2nd worst record in the league.

The goal is any of the bottom 3 spots. They each have a 14% chance at #1. They each have a 52.1% chance at top 4.

[Thomas82]

The Magic beat the Clippers tonight, which helps us. Good news!!

[John B]

The goal is any of the bottom 3 spots. They each have a 14% chance at #1. They each have a 52.1% chance at top 4.

The worst record still gets the best chance right, getting guaranteed top 4 pick? Then top 5, then top 6 for 2nd and 3rd worst, and so on?

[scott]

The worst record still gets the best chance right, getting guaranteed top 4 pick? Then top 5, then top 6 for 2nd and 3rd worst, and so on?

No.

https://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds

[exstatic]

The worst record still gets the best chance right, getting guaranteed top 4 pick? Then top 5, then top 6 for 2nd and 3rd worst, and so on?

Technically, yes, but after the first two, there’s a Grand Canyon sized drop off. I won’t really care much if we aren’t 1 or 2.

It’s guaranteed top 5, btw, not top 4, with the worst record. Up to 4 teams could jump ahead of you.

I’m excited at the chance for Wemby, but people need to manage their expectations. We have a 52% chance at top 4, which means we also have a 48% chance of being 5 or lower.

[rascal]

Technically, yes, but after the first two, there’s a Grand Canyon sized drop off. I won’t really care much if we aren’t 1 or 2.

It’s guaranteed top 5, btw, not top 4, with the worst record. Up to 4 teams could jump ahead of you.

I’m excited at the chance for Wemby, but people need to manage their expectations. We have a 52% chance at top 4, which means we also have a 48% chance of being 5 or lower.

What are the odds of gertting the 5th pick with the worst record?

[Dex]

What are the odds of gertting the 5th pick with the worst record?

47.9%

https://squared2020.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/screen-shot-2019-04-30-at-11.45.54-am.png

Even if Spurs tank perfectly, it's still basically a coin flip that we will get a top 4 pick.

[rascal]

47.9%

https://squared2020.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/screen-shot-2019-04-30-at-11.45.54-am.png

Even if Spurs tank perfectly, it's still basically a coin flip that we will get a top 4 pick.

Can't be higher to get the 5th pick than the 1st pick.
So more likely to get pick 5 than pick 1 with the worst record

[exstatic]

47.9%

https://squared2020.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/screen-shot-2019-04-30-at-11.45.54-am.png

Even if Spurs tank perfectly, it's still basically a coin flip that we will get a top 4 pick.

Yup. Running the TaT simulator is far more depressing now than it was whe we were like 6th.

[John B]

Can't be higher to get the 5th pick than the 1st pick.
So more likely to get pick 5 than pick 1 with the worst record

But the better record teams have a lower chances of getting higher picks. So it plays out by the end of the day. I like our chances but of course I’m with also expecting the worst, I’m sure does the PATFO.

[Seventyniner]

Yup. Running the TaT simulator is far more depressing now than it was whe we were like 6th.

Happiness equals reality minus expectations.

Last year when there was an 80% chance of not jumping into the top 4, it was natural to expect staying at 9 with dropping to 10 being the downside case.

With the worst record there's almost a 50% chance of dropping 4 spots, and only 14% to "stay" at the #1 pick. Much more downside even though the overall pick slot should be much higher than last year.

It seems instructive that the chance of the Spurs getting VW this year, even with a bottom 3 record, are less than their chances of jumping into the top 4 were last draft.

[KingKev]

The goal is to add talent. Sure there is a sweet spot in lottery odds but picking late lottery has not fared us very well when DJ, White and Keldon are as good or better than Primo, Sochan and DV.

If you want to add talent make an effort to get top draft picks annually. Let the one thing we still
do well (development) start from a better base.

[Dex]

The goal is to add talent. Sure there is a sweet spot in lottery odds but picking late lottery has not fared us very well when DJ, White and Keldon are as good or better than Primo, Sochan and DV.

If you want to add talent make an effort to get top draft picks annually. Let the one thing we still
do well (development) start from a better base.

Yeah, any pick in the top 6 is bound to help this team in the long run.

But some fans seem to be disillusioned that worst record = WEMBY....when that is far from the case.

[JuneJive]

Injuries galore, ATL struggling.

Add to that the friction between Trae and McMillan.

DJ deal looking even better.

[Seventyniner]

Injuries galore, ATL struggling.

Add to that the friction between Trae and McMillan.

DJ deal looking even better.

We don't want them to suck yet. Better would be if they make even more win-now moves and have them backfire next season, leading to their key FAs (Dejounte included) leaving in 2024 and the Hawks bottoming out in 2024-2025, just in time for the first of the two unprotected picks they owe.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Yup. Running the TaT simulator is far more depressing now than it was whe we were like 6th.

Yeah, at 6 we beat the odds if we pick higher. Being last and picking 4th would suck azz.

[slick'81]

Who wants that L more tonight?

[scott]

Game of the season (so far) tonight.

[JPB]

The post game ITVs I want to see:

- "Pretty satisfied with the terrible execution tonight, y'a know, making sure you fuck up the pick'n'rolls, and paying attention not to help in defense... It's the little things, the details, y'a know..."

-"The losing streak? Well, gives you great confidence, y'a know, shows you're doing the right things and going in the right direction, y'a know..."

-" Personnaly? Well, happy all the good work I put in is paying off, y'a know, piling up the bricks late at night alone in the gym... I think my tanking shot is coming along... Not there yet, I made the shot that broke their 25 unanswered points, but I'm getting there, y'a know..."

[Thomas82]

It's looking like the streak ends tonight.

[slick'81]

Oh well... it was fun while it lasted

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Damnit!!

:bang

:pctoss

[horseshue]

What a waste of rare wins.

[John B]

Just like that and Spurs are now on a 3-way tie with CHA and HOU for 3rd worst, 12.7% of picking top 1. :pctoss

[slick'81]

Just like that and Spurs are now on a 3-way tie with CHA and HOU for 3rd worst, 12.7% of picking top 1. :pctoss


this team isn't sniffing the top3

[John B]

this team isn't sniffing the top3

that was a costly win

[jjspur]

Even short handed the spurs are still better than the younger, less experienced, not as well coached rockets. There are still a lot of games left in the season, but its going to be a battle to the bottom of the standings.

[Mr. Body]

The Rockets are just about the only team the Spurs can beat right now, so settle down.

[John B]

Back to #4 in the L column bitches :lol:lol:lol

[slick'81]

Back to #4 in the L column bitches :lol:lol:lol


looong way to go

[rjv]

next week's schedule shapes up nicely for tankers. if poeltl is still out for those games, they could conceivably lose them all, including the two to orlando and houston. the real question is in how much better the spurs might play once jakob and blake return to the lineup. will it be good enough for them to jump back out of the bottom 4?

[John B]

next week's schedule shapes up nicely for tankers. if poeltl is still out for those games, they could conceivably lose them all, including the two to orlando and houston. the real question is in how much better the spurs might play once jakob and blake return to the lineup. will it be good enough for them to jump back out of the bottom 4?

Those Rockets, Magic and Thunder games that we need to make sure Poeltl gets stuck in traffic

[KingKev]

Looking at this up and coming schedule I see a great opportunity to get some much needed L’s over the holiday season. OKC, Houston and Orlando are basically 2 potential losses each.

Hoping big body goes full chucker over the holidays. Would be great to see him lead us on another 10 game losing streak.

[Dex]

Warriors are under .500 and just lost Curry for "a few weeks"....a new foe has appeared

[Seventyniner]

Warriors are under .500 and just lost Curry for "a few weeks"....a new foe has appeared

This actually might work in our favor. The Warriors have a homestand coming up that includes the Hornets/Pistons/Magic. If the Warriors really do fall apart it could give one or more of those teams a much-needed win (from the Spurs perspective).

[scott]

Magic look like they are putting the pieces together. Let’s see if it’s just a mirage (much like the Spurs 3-game win streak)

[exstatic]

Hornets also got LaMelo back recently.

[Thomas82]

Hornets also got LaMelo back recently.

Didn't he re-injure his ankle?

[Seventyniner]

Magic beat the Celtics in Boston.

[slick'81]

Hornets and pistons still losing

[John B]

Magic beat the Celtics in Boston.

Got us to 3rd in the losing column :toast

[GAustex]

No spurs no

[Thomas82]

Last I saw, the Rockets wetr down 19 to Portland.

[slick'81]

Still stuck@9 wins with Houston in 3rd

[Gibbz]

Based on Vegas odds of who goes #1 overall, it seems like SA needs for sure a top 4 pick. It went something like Wemby -700, Scoot +300, and then the freshmen Arkansas PG and Nova PG both around +1000, then a huge drop-off to around +3000. So maybe let's not shit ourselves if we don't get Wemby or Scoot.

[Frenchfred]

With Poeltl back, I just don’t see the Spurs losing more games than Houston, Detroit or Charlotte. Washington also seems to be going full tanking, Chicago and OKC are more settle about it.

[KingKev]

Based on Vegas odds of who goes #1 overall, it seems like SA needs for sure a top 4 pick. It went something like Wemby -700, Scoot +300, and then the freshmen Arkansas PG and Nova PG both around +1000, then a huge drop-off to around +3000. So maybe let's not shit ourselves if we don't get Wemby or Scoot.

That changes by the day.

[exstatic]

With Poeltl back, I just don’t see the Spurs losing more games than Houston, Detroit or Charlotte. Washington also seems to be going full tanking, Chicago and OKC are more settle about it.

The tankiest stuff happens after the trade deadline, and we’re well positioned. Hopefully, someone meets our price for Jak, and he’s no longer a drag on the tank. As long as we’re in the bottom 5, we should have a good shot at dropping after the deadline. The teams from 6-10 will be dumping players at the deadline in a desperate attempt to catch the bottom feeders, but that’s really difficult to do.

[Mr. Body]

Orlando looks like they're putting it together a little, beating a struggling Boston team twice in a row.

OKC looks like their badness is setting in -- having a volume-shooting SG as your only winning player isn't that great. I expect Presti to find an 'injury' for Shai and shut things down.

[lefty20]

Orlando is def gonna be a fun team to watch the rest of the season. They've got a pretty talented young core.

[exstatic]

Orlando looks like they're putting it together a little, beating a struggling Boston team twice in a row.

OKC looks like their badness is setting in -- having a volume-shooting SG as your only winning player isn't that great. I expect Presti to find an 'injury' for Shai and shut things down.

I think SGA will tire of The Tank, and request a trade.

[Mr. Body]

I think SGA will tire of The Tank, and request a trade.

Presti can't help it. Boy's addicted. But I think he can tell Shai -- next year we'll have Wembanyama and Holmgren. We'll have the tallest, ugliest team ever constructed. It'll be all the way until February 2024 that we start tanking again.

[mikec]

Wizards have officially joined the tankathon. Only one loss behind us.

[Mr. Body]

Come to think of it, Presti might delight in trading SGA. More picks to play with, more lotteries to enjoy.

[tonight...you]

Come to think of it, Presti might delight in trading SGA. More picks to play with, more lotteries to enjoy.
Which is wild as he loves to play with picks as the teams just flounder with them.

[horseshue]

Wizards have officially joined the tankathon. Only one loss behind us.

Funny thing is that wizards are in win-now mode, with supermax beal, max porzingis and wannabe star kuzma. How can they be this bad? :lol

[exstatic]

Funny thing is that wizards are in win-now mode, with supermax beal, max porzingis and wannabe star kuzma. How can they be this bad? :lol

Chicago, same.

[Mr. Body]

Funny thing is that wizards are in win-now mode, with supermax beal, max porzingis and wannabe star kuzma. How can they be this bad? :lol

Well, supermaxing Beale was revoltingly stupid. They did a fantastic job of getting out from under Wall's contract and still suck. The Johnny Davis pick this year looks like a total bust. He was awful from the start.

[slick'81]

Spurs are going to have hella competition for that top 4

[Thomas82]

I just got the alert that Zion would be out tomorrow, so hopefully the other Pelicans can step it up.

[slick'81]

I just got the alert that Zion would be out tomorrow, so hopefully the other Pelicans can step it up.

spurs have no chance vs the pels. Even without z

[Thomas82]

spurs have no chance vs the pels. Even without z

That's what I want to hear.

[MultiTroll]

Spurs are going to have hella competition for that top 4
Orlando beat Houston tonight we we remain in temp solid 4th.

Houston is gonna be tough to out tank with Gramps at the helm.

[slick'81]

That's what I want to hear.

but then we turn around and play the magic:lol

[exstatic]

but then we turn around and play the magic:lol

Orlando is 7-3 in their last 10. They beat Boston twice in a row.

[JuneJive]

Just gun for that 14%

Then pray.

[slick'81]

Orlando is 7-3 in their last 10. They beat Boston twice in a row.

you also said we had no shot beating houston without poodle

[Dex]

I am legit concerned that the Warriors are we going to weasel their way into another top 4 pick.

They only have two less losses than the Spurs right now. Steph is out for the foreseeable future. And they've looked like crap even with him on the court.

[slick'81]

I am legit concerned that the Warriors are we going to weasel their way into another top 4 pick.

of lakers fall and pels clean up

[exstatic]

you also said we had no shot beating houston without poodle

Hadn’t seen them yet this year. People are unreasonably in love with Sengün, but he’s a fucking turnstile on defense. He’s half of any turd towers you could assemble. They’re fucking terrible. A few minor injuries here and there, and they may not win 20 games.

[Thomas82]

but then we turn around and play the magic:lol

Yeah, on the 2nd night of a back-to-back.

[Thomas82]

The Hornets and Wizards won tonight. That helps.

[rascal]

Just gun for that 14%

Then pray.

I don't know how the Spurs will not be in the bottom three.

The front office is clearly in tank mode. They sit guys with minor boo boos. Has anyone on the roster not missed time already.

[JPB]

I don't know how the Spurs will not be in the bottom three.

The front office is clearly in tank mode. They sit guys with minor boo boos. Has anyone on the roster not missed time already.

Other teams are tanking hard too and spurs are not bottom 3 so far... Detroit has already 5 more losses than the spurs and I don't think they'll catch them up.

So it'll be 2 spots for 3 teams (Houston, Spurs and Charlotte). CHA has 2 more losses and Houston 1... So, it's really not a given spurs finish bottom 3. The other 3 teams are also gonna overtank the more we'll get to the end of the RS...

[slick'81]

Weve lost 4/5 and need to step it up

[Thomas82]

Weve lost 4/5 and need to step it up

Apparently they didn't get the memo tonight.

[slick'81]

Horrible win

[Jordan Jackson]

Too many guys on this roster are playing for their next contract. Spurs are going to rack up a bunch of “hustle” wins on the effort of guys who have no future with this team.

You just have to hope it does not negatively impact their draft position. This team needs a top 5 pick very badly. Being stuck in a division with Ja, Zion and Luka is some real shit.

[Thomas82]

Too many guys on this roster are playing for their next contract. Spurs are going to rack up a bunch of “hustle” wins on the effort of guys who have no future with this team.

You just have to hope it does not negatively impact their draft position. This team needs a top 5 pick very badly. Being stuck in a division with Ja, Zion and Luka is some real shit.


The fact that we have so many players in contract seasons is the biggest thing working against us besides the pride of PATFO.

[Thomas82]

Hopefully we get the tank rolling again tomorrow night against the Thunder.

[MultiTroll]

Another pathetic win in what was a very losable game at the end.

Bench Trey Jones and his rah rah nonesense.

[slick'81]

Spurs fall 3 games behind detroit,two behind Charlotte and 1 behind hou

[Russ]

Don't look now, but the Spurs are 5-5 in their last 10.

[slick'81]

Don't look now, but the Spurs are 5-5 in their last 10.

removing that stretch starting nov.2 where the spurs lost 16/17 games they are (10-6)

[horseshue]

Whay are hornets so bad? I think they are healthy and playing their starters 35+min a game. They are not tanking, yet they are worse than tanking teams.

[Mr. Body]

Whay are hornets so bad? I think they are healthy and playing their starters 35+min a game. They are not tanking, yet they are worse than tanking teams.

What good players go the have, though? They have no talent. Their drafts have been bad. This year they were supposed to get Kai Jones and Bouknight floor time because seriously Borrego was holding them back, one of the reasons he was fired. Turns out they suck.

[KingKev]

Do some of you even follow the NBA? Lamelo Ball, their best player has played 10 games.

Bridges, their second best player hasn’t played one.

[horseshue]

I don't follow hornets. I was looking at last game box score, and just wondering, why are they so bad. Ball and hayvard, their two best players are both playing 35+ min. I think this may be the first time this season i looked at their box score. :lol

[exstatic]

Whay are hornets so bad? I think they are healthy and playing their starters 35+min a game. They are not tanking, yet they are worse than tanking teams.

With Bridges in limbo, no one plays any defense. You can’t win consistently that way. If you get into a double digit deficit, you’re cooked because you can’t string enough stops together to climb back into the game.

[spurraider21]

basically hoping charlottes starts picking up some more wins here and there with lamelo providing some nightly upside

[Mr. Body]

Do some of you even follow the NBA? Lamelo Ball, their best player has played 10 games.

Bridges, their second best player hasn’t played one.

Oh, the players who last year lead them... into the lottery. Okay.

[KingKev]

Oh, the players who last year lead them... into the lottery. Okay.


Did you not watch last season either?

[Mr. Body]

Did you not watch last season either?

Lol, go fucking watch the Hornets if you want, bub. Bridges and Malemlo ain't good enough for wins.

[KingKev]

Lol, go fucking watch the Hornets if you want, bub. Bridges and Malemlo ain't good enough for wins.

Melo alone could move this team out of the bottom 5-7.

[KingKev]

Great opportunity to lose 10 straight if we can lose the Pistons game….

[slick'81]

Great opportunity to lose 10 straight if we can lose the Pistons game….


we both know that ain't happening

[KingKev]

we both know that ain't happening

would be such a comforting sign if they tried though…

[slick'81]

Houston now in soul possession of worst record.Spurs still a game ahead of orl for 4th place

[KingKev]

Despite now being able to close Detroit the good news is there are some very losable games on the horizon. With DV and possibly KJ out the next 10 games could be a solid losing streak.

[John B]

Charlotte seems to be in an upswing and could help Spurs to top 3 in the draft chances. No Spurs No!

[slick'81]

Charlotte seems to be in an upswing and could help Spurs to top 3 in the draft chances. No Spurs No!


You said the same thing about det

[John B]

You said the same thing about det

Bruh did you really expect Spurs to win without Vassel and Keldon? Damn Tre had to showoff to the old man :lol.

[slick'81]

Bruh did you really expect Spurs to win without Vassel and Keldon? Damn Tre had to showoff to the old man :lol.

its rough watching this team sometimes bruh:lol

[MultiTroll]

@ Memphis
@ Memphis b2b. Grizz are playing very well. Should rack up 2 more losses.


vs Golden Phaggots on Friday. Curry is slated to possibly return. Let's hope he returns healthy. Also his Swishy Sis Klay who sat tonight with sore knee and vag. Warriors have been horrible with combo of road games and Curry out. Orlando got the W tonight. :toast

[slick'81]

@ Memphis
@ Memphis b2b. Grizz are playing very well. Should rack up 2 more losses.


vs Golden Phaggots on Friday. Curry is slated to possibly return. Let's hope he returns healthy. Also his Swishy Sis Klay who sat tonight with sore knee and vag. Warriors have been horrible with combo of road games and Curry out. Orlando got the W tonight. :toast


we should realistically be able to battle for 4th all year. Its the top 3 alluding us

[spurraider21]

as long as our defense continues to be atrocious, i dont think we will have issues racking up losses tbh. our guys keep showing flashes of offensive promise here and there, but the lousy defense has been a constant. Tre/Jak are the only guys who consistently play decent D. keldon/vassell have been bad, which is more disappointing for vassell given that was supposed to be a strength of his. langford and richardson are bad, but they try. KBD is bad despite his winspan. we know mcdermott is bad. even stanley johnson has been bad

looking at RPM for all these guys, we dont have a single SG/SF with a positive defensive RPM.

for whatever reason they dont have sochan listed on the RPM list though, but i doubt he's been a net positive. we've seen some great things out of him (he will quite literally take on guys 1-5, but the results arent necessarily there with consistency).

today is a good microcosm. 62 points at the half against a good defense. good flashes there. but giving up 76 :lol

[slick'81]

1 game from the top3.... im starting to get excited

[exstatic]

1 game from the top3.... im starting to get excited

How on earth are you coming up with one game out of 3rd? Detroit has FIVE more losses than we do, and that puts us THREE games out of 3rd.

[JPB]

How on earth are you coming up with one game out of 3rd? Detroit has FIVE more losses than we do, and that puts us THREE games out of 3rd.

Just because Pistons played 3 more games. But Spurs are not playing to win those 3 and are .317 so far meaning they'd lose 2 out of those 3 games, maybe 3... So yeah, that's more like 1 or 1.5 games ahead.

[davi78239]

I’m guessing the tank will take a hit Friday. No way we lose such a historic game right? And the Warriors ain’t that good lately, especially on the road.

[cd98]

Spurs are not on a losing streak, they are on a winning streak to get a top 3 pick...it only requires losing games to win.

[Big Empty]

Bottom 4 all got a 15% chance for the number 1 pick? Lets say we DID land Wembangyamama, what position would he play? What happens to Sochan or Keldon?

[TXstbobcat]

Bottom 4 all got a 15% chance for the number 1 pick? Lets say we DID land Wembangyamama, what position would he play? What happens to Sochan or Keldon?

bottom 3 each have 14%. The 4 spot has 12.5% odds of getting the #1 pick

[exstatic]

Bottom 4 all got a 15% chance for the number 1 pick? Lets say we DID land Wembangyamama, what position would he play? What happens to Sochan or Keldon?

Wemby would play PF. Sochan would slide to PG, a position he has shown a pretty high aptitude for. We’d be a monster sized lineup.

[KingKev]

Wemby would play PF. Sochan would slide to PG, a position he has shown a pretty high aptitude for. We’d be a monster sized lineup.

This is fantasy. Sochan can moonlight as a point forward but he will never be the starting PG.

[rascal]

This is fantasy. Sochan can moonlight as a point forward but he will never be the starting PG.

Crazy some people here think Sochan can be a starting pg.

[MultiTroll]

Stefanie Curry back in the lineup.
Hopefully he shook the rust off in the loss to the Suns.

[K...]

This is fantasy. Sochan can moonlight as a point forward but he will never be the starting PG.

Drafting wemby is also a fantasy

[davi78239]

We play Sac tomorrow I think. And didn’t they get into a scuffle last night? Probably gonna be suspensions if it was bad. Hence, making our chances better to win depending on who’s out for SAC. Dammit!

[KingKev]

We play Sac tomorrow I think. And didn’t they get into a scuffle last night? Probably gonna be suspensions if it was bad. Hence, making our chances better to win depending on who’s out for SAC. Dammit!

No punches thrown and no one important left the bench from what I saw so I don’t think it will be an issue in getting this L

[exstatic]

Light the beam!

[davi78239]

No punches thrown and no one important left the bench from what I saw so I don’t think it will be an issue in getting this L

Oh ok good!

[heyheymymy]

San Antonio Spurs about to drop more L than Hunter S. Thompson at a Dead show

[MultiTroll]

Kobme Johnson lead chucker again vs Sacto.

Not sure how other younger players are supposed to develop within the offense of the Pop n KJ Show, but thanks for another L.

5 straight :clap

Next up Brooklyn with Durbeta out. Could be a challenge.

[slick'81]

Kobme Johnson lead chucker again vs Sacto.

Not sure how other younger players are supposed to develop within the offense of the Pop n KJ Show, but thanks for another L.

5 straight :clap

Next up Brooklyn with Durbeta out. Could be a challenge.


should be another ass kicking incoming

[Thomas82]

Let's make it 6 straight tonight!! If we do, we're guaranteed to pick up a game on either the Rockets or Hornets tomorrow. They play against each other and somebody has to win that game.

[BackHome]

No punches thrown and no one important left the bench from what I saw so I don’t think it will be an issue in getting this L

Is Metu playing with Sacramento?

[KingKev]

Is Metu playing with Sacramento?

Yeah, both he and Lyles are deep bench guys.

[cd98]

A regular season losing streak is a lottery winning streak. Glass half full perspective.

[Thomas82]

We were gifted a win tonight with Durant and Irving both out. Now we have to wait until Friday to start a new streak.

[slick'81]

Top 3 becoming less of a reality. I wanted to believe sooo badly

[MultiTroll]

Kobme Johnson picks the last 4 minutes of his chuck fest to start making baskets. :pctoss

[Mr. Body]

Top 3 becoming less of a reality. I wanted to believe sooo badly

Spurs aren't going to be a three worst team.

Risk is more one of the underratedly bad teams packing it in, like Portland. They're bad.

[horseshue]

And it's gone.

[KingKev]

Trade Keldon

[scott]

Trade Keldon

Picking Brandon Miller and packaging Keldon and Devin for someone like Ivey or Mathurin is what I’ve been doing in my 2k simulations :lol

[Sugus]

Top 3 becoming less of a reality. I wanted to believe sooo badly

We don't have to be a bottom-3 team at all in order to land Wemby, or a top pick for that matter. With the new flattened odds, it's more up to chance and luck than ever before -- there's a significant chance that the worst team in the league, record-wise, doesn't pick top-2 or even top-3.

I almost, almost like the chances of jumping into the top 3 from the outside, than to be on the top-3 come ping-pong night. I'd be more scared of losing the spot in that scenario to a jumping-up team, tbh.

[Ariel]

Picking Brandon Miller and packaging Keldon and Devin for someone like Ivey or Mathurin is what I’ve been doing in my 2k simulations :lol
If Detroit lands no. 2 I could definitely see them wanting to trade one of Cunningham or (most likely) Ivey for a young wing who can shoot. If Keldon hasn't totally dispelled the notion that he can shoot by then, and Brandon Miller is within reach, I could totally see a swap between Ivey & Keldon (plus filler) for the better of both teams. Another (less likely) option would be Detroit trading down from no. 2 to grab Miller and assets instead of Scoot, which -again- might be of interest to us.

[rascal]

If Detroit lands no. 2 I could definitely see them wanting to trade one of Cunningham or (most likely) Ivey for a young wing who can shoot. If Keldon hasn't totally dispelled the notion that he can shoot by then, and Brandon Miller is within reach, I could totally see a swap between Ivey & Keldon (plus filler) for the better of both teams. Another (less likely) option would be Detroit trading down from no. 2 to grab Miller and assets instead of Scoot, which -again- might be of interest to us.

I don't see them at all trading either of those guys for Keldon. They are high on Ivey and were trilled to get him.

[Ariel]

I don't see them at all trading either of those guys for Keldon. They are high on Ivey and were trilled to get him.
I'm saying IF THEY LAND SCOOT. You can't have 3 ball dominant lead guards in your roster (plus Hayes as backup), while the only wing players of any significance are either old (Bogdanovic is almost 34) or in the trade block (Saddiq Bey). So if that's the position they find themselves in, something's got to give.

[rascal]

I'm saying IF THEY LAND SCOOT. You can't have 3 ball dominant lead guards in your roster (plus Hayes as backup), while the only wing players of any significance are either old (Bogdanovic is almost 34) or in the trade block (Saddiq Bey). So if that's the position they find themselves in, something's got to give.

Even if they land Scoot. Keldon would be selling short.

Cunnigham would be the player to trade if they land Scoot but not for Keldon.
They can get more for Cade next summer after he's healthy.

[scott]

Even if they land Scoot. Keldon would be selling short.

Cunnigham would be the player to trade if they land Scoot but not for Keldon.
They can get more for Cade next summer after he's healthy.

That's why in my fantasy 2k scenarios, it's Devin + Keldon for Ivey. I agree, Keldon ain't enough to land Ivey or Cade. Devin + Keldon is only enough in a scenario where a team finds themselves long in ball dominant guards and lacking in wings.

[MultiTroll]

57% fg 53% treys and the Spurs still lose. :tu

Streak started again at 1.

Trailblazers next.

[Thomas82]

Orlando won tonight to put some more distance between us and them.

[exstatic]

57% fg 53% treys and the Spurs still lose. :tu

Streak started again at 1.

Trailblazers next.

Portland is pretty bad. Three and seven over the last 10, and about to be passed by the lowly Lakers.

[Mr. Body]

Yeah, the Blazers started okay but are crashing in the desert at this point. Turns out adding Jerami Grant doesn't make you good? Who knew?

[Thomas82]

Yeah, the Blazers started okay but are crashing in the desert at this point. Turns out adding Jerami Grant doesn't make you good? Who knew?

They'll also be on the 2nd night of a back-to-back. But on the bright side, the Hornets won tonight, moving them 1 game closer to us in the win column.

[JPB]

Charlotte won again tonight. Looks like they're starting to find some groove after Lamelo return...

Still believe spurs finish bottom 3 (prolly 3rd worst).

[KingKev]

Our schedule gets easier into the Feb 8th trade deadline through AS Weekend. Atleast it takes us into the Rodeo Road Trip with 9 of the next 13 games on the road. Still lots of bottom feeders and 500 ball clubs on the horizon. This stretch probably makes our breaks our top 3 hopes.

[exstatic]

Charlotte won again tonight. Looks like they're starting to find some groove after Lamelo return...

Still believe spurs finish bottom 3 (prolly 3rd worst).

Doubt we crack the top 3, or drop below 4th. I’m guessing our final odds will be 12.5%.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Doubt we crack the top 3, or drop below 4th. I’m guessing our final odds will be 12.5%.

Feels like 4th place to me as well. The bottom three are so horrible it's going to be hard to play that badly. It would literally take effort at sucking to be that bad.

[Mr. Body]

Orlando polished off Boston at him with some ease. Jonathan Isaac back (for now). They're four games better than the Spurs right now but seem much better. I doubt they fall off.

[KingKev]

Magic on the rise. Funny how most here clowned their young talent versus ours.

[scott]

Magic on the rise. Funny how most here clowned their young talent versus ours.

tbh, I'm surprised how many people totally discount Banchero.

[KingKev]

tbh, I'm surprised how many people totally discount Banchero.

Franz, Banchero and 5 other 25 and under decent young players who can be moved.


Crazy they got 3x more for Vucevic from the Bulls than we did DDR.

[MultiTroll]

Orlando with a W. :clap

McForbesbot and Langford both 3-3 in a (so far) losing effort at Portland.

[Thomas82]

The Rockets actually won tonight. I couldn't believe it.

[Mr. Body]

Now the Hornets look like the worst team in the league.

[Mr. Body]

Rockets up 15 at halftime to the Wizards at home, start the 4th giving the Wizards a 23-4 run. Man this team stinks.

Sengun with a 2nd career triple double, tho.

[spurraider21]

Rockets, Pistons, Hornets, and Spurs all playing today

[spurraider21]

Hornets won big :wow

pistons leading in the 4th as well

[heyheymymy]

lol at useless HOU tho

[spurraider21]

detroit hung on :tu

[Thomas82]

Both the Hornets and Pistons won tonight. That's huge!!

[heyheymymy]

Gains on ORL last game and tonight, if SA loses, gains on DET and CHA incoming

Not bad for the subtle tank