Shams: Spurs are Signing Stanley Johnson

[BatManu20]

Spurs going all in for that Play-In tbh.

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[Chinook]

Are they trading two firsts for him like a lot of STers wanted?

[spurraider21]

https://media.tenor.com/XMVz4JeILUMAAAAM/ladies-and-gentleman-we-got-him.gif

[spurraider21]

Are they trading two firsts for him like a lot of STers wanted?
Would be worth it. Did you know he is 6’8

[Excessive Egotist]

This is a stupid signing. Just as bad as Alize Johnson for the same reasons. I don't think the front office / coaching staff has committed to what a rebuild requires with these sort of half-measures. Disappointing stuff.

[K...]

This is a stupid signing. Just as bad as Alize Johnson for the same reasons. I don't think the front office / coaching staff has committed to what a rebuild requires with these sort of half-measures. Disappointing stuff.

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[timvp]

:lmao

Welcome to .... what was that, like 2018?

[mo7888]

Do we have a spot or are we waiving someone?

[LeBowen]

San Antonio Johnsons.

Well, that doesn't sound as good as you'd expect after Primo incident. :rollin

[Leetonidas]

This is a stupid signing. Just as bad as Alize Johnson for the same reasons. I don't think the front office / coaching staff has committed to what a rebuild requires with these sort of half-measures. Disappointing stuff.

:lmao yeah man, signing an end of the bench guy really proves that point

[Leetonidas]

still, weird signing, unless they think KBD will be out for awhile and just want some end of the bench insurance.

tbh i thought timvp said we were looking at IT? :lol where were the sauces on Wright looking at Johnson

[Excessive Egotist]

Like Alize, Stanley Johnson is 26. As a player, he is what he is. No upside at all. The Spurs should be using the end of their roster for in-person looks at young players (<22, preferably 19 and 20 years old). These players will not help them win in the short term, which is good. Converting a few of these auditions into a rotation NBA player helps Spurs in two ways. First, the player could be converted into a future asset. Think 76ers development of Jeremi Grant and Robert Covington. Second, the player stands a chance to contribute to the team by the time it gets good, which is 2-3 years off, minimum, even with Wemby. Alize and Stanley Johnson provide zero future value. Any value offered is very limited, if it exists at all, and extremely short term. Sharife Cooper, Luka Samanic, Jordan Hall, etc...are the type of players they should sign. And I know it is a verboten idea, but using the roster spot on Joshua Primo and immediately suspending him for season would be much better than Stanley Johnson, even with the PR backlash.

[John B]

Expect players to have mysterious “injuries” to give Johnson playing time. And not make tanking too obvious.

[Excessive Egotist]

Even still, I'd rather that playing time go to someone like Jordan Hall. Why would we want those minutes to go to Stanley Johnson? And Johnson makes the tanking more obvious, not less. At least with a player like Hall the team can truthfully say it is trying to develop talent for the future.

I will withdraw my complaint IF the Spurs make a trade shortly after Dec 15 and Stanley Johnson was just a seat warmer in advance of a 2 for 1 or 3 for 2 transaction.

[KingKev]

Alize waived. Potato, potato.

[LeBowen]

Alize waived. Potato, potato.

200 IQ move if Stanley takes the same number.

[wildbill2u]

I saw the original twitter post has been deleted. Maybe just a rumor?

[slick'81]

Just win baby

[poopbox]

We have come full circle cause Kawhi ruined Stanley Johnson career. People were fine with him being a defensive stopper but when Kawhi went from that to start people thought Johnson could do the same and all of a sudden great defense wasn't good enough for him and he gradually turned into a bust.:rollin

[The Truth #6]

What’s up with Dominic Barlow? Maybe play that guy.

[Excessive Egotist]

Last summer, the Wolves (Minott) and Grizzlies (Chandler) resurrected the Hinkie Special, but with a wrinkle favorable to the players. Instead of four years fully non-guaranteed (the original contract of Covington, Grant, McConnell, and other 76ers), teams offered same structure but with a partial (Minott) or full guarantee (Chandler).

At a minimum, Bassey has earned one of these deals. The Stanley Johnson signing is puzzling in this regard. Why not upgrade Bassey instead? Again, my only guess is Johnson's reported deal is fully non-guaranteed and he will be waived soon.

Going into next season, the Spurs should have at least two, potentially more, players on partially guaranteed Hinkie deals: Bassey and their second round pick (early to mid 30s). Barlow may get the same offer. By the end of '23-24, I wouldn't be surprised if they've signed 4-5 players to this basic contract. They are so far below cap right now, they can afford to swing and miss and eat the remaining partial on the player's deal. It's a lot less expensive than, I don't know, a random DeMarre Carroll signing. Plus, these deals are easy to trade because nearly every team has a TPE large enough to take on the player. So if the Spurs develop a few of these guys but don't see them as a fit around their emerging core, they should be able to move them for asset(s) without taking players back.

[rjv]

What’s up with Dominic Barlow? Maybe play that guy.

yeah, i forgot all about barlow.

[Mr. Body]

What’s up with Dominic Barlow? Maybe play that guy.

Dunno. Maybe there's a reason he's in the G-League.

[rjv]

yeah, i forgot all about barlow.

but he's not exactly lighting up the G League; i just glanced over his stats.

[Mr. Body]

Whenever you think Barlow, you should be thinking Bassey.

[heyheymymy]

got that Johnson and Johnson

[Philthemage]

How many more players are we gonna cut for being the odd Johnson out?

[Dex]

Whenever you think Barlow, you should be thinking Bassey.

Spurs pretty much have Bassey wrapped up with the two-way, and he's still getting paid. The only real limit is the number of games (50)

We're 27 games in and he's only played in 17, so he's still got plenty left in the tank and the Spurs could always convert it to a minimum-salary contract at any time if they continue to like what they see.

[playbonner15]

https://media.tenor.com/XMVz4JeILUMAAAAM/ladies-and-gentleman-we-got-him.gif
Looool just like when Spurs eventually got their guy - Pau Gasol, T-Mac, Michael Finley, Scola, <insert past their prime guys>

[Dex]

Looool just like when Spurs eventually got their guy - Pau Gasol, T-Mac, Michael Finley, Scola, <insert past their prime guys>

SCOLA THREAD!!

Though we never actually got Scola

[Mr. Body]

Why not? He's about the age when Danny Green turned it around and became Danny Green. Ok, the situations are very different and they're very different players, but why not?

[KingKev]

How many more players are we gonna cut for being the odd Johnson out?

Wasn’t that Primo aka lil’ Joshy aka Big Johnson?

[paperboy77]

Would be worth it. Did you know he is 6’8

If I remember correctly he's one of those dudes that lucked out and were born with a freakish NBA body but never quite figured it out. Built like Kawhi L and wasted it a way.

Maybe low bb IQ?

[Maddog]

Odd signing, while he was always intriguing he's never amounted to much. Number 8 pick, never averaged above 9 points on his 5th team and soon to be 27.
Maybe someone is being shipped out and need bodies
Maybe someone else got caught with their pants down.

[PhantomDashCam]

Odd signing, while he was always intriguing he's never amounted to much. Number 8 pick, never averaged above 9 points on his 5th team and soon to be 27.
Maybe someone is being shipped out and need bodies
Maybe someone else got caught with their pants down.

Was thinking the same thing.

KJ, Vassell, Langford, J Rich, McDermott, Branham - then arguably KBD, Roby and Sochan - all at times playing the 3/4? Interesting…

[CGD]

But is he better than Kahwi though?

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1602813504720932865

[KingKev]

Odd signing, while he was always intriguing he's never amounted to much. Number 8 pick, never averaged above 9 points on his 5th team and soon to be 27.
Maybe someone is being shipped out and need bodies
Maybe someone else got caught with their pants down.


Was thinking the same thing.

KJ, Vassell, Langford, J Rich, McDermott, Branham - then arguably KBD, Roby and Sochan - all at times playing the 3/4? Interesting…

They waived Alize. Doubt there is more to this ither than 13-15th man musical chairs we’ve been playing for 2-3 seasons.

[slick'81]

Big fat meh,tbh

[venitian navigator]

Always liked him for his defense, and probably his offensive game could still be improved in the right environment...come on guys, being 26 doesn't mean his career is already in the twighlight.
He has at least other 8 years going forward, and I think we can really find out soon if this once lotto pick (top 10) could be trasformed in something worth a contract (also as a not expansive role player) next year...would you mind having a good role player for some years?
The strategy of this year is finding out and experiment how many bodies you can for finding out the dozen people worth playing next year together with the limited amount of players under contract (Vassell, Jhonson, Sochan, Brahnam, Wesley, Mc Dermott) plus our soon to be lottery pick...
We already have some veteran players with expiring contracts (or team options) that (in case no trade offers comes) we're eveluating for next year's roster...Poeltl, KBD, J.Rich, Collins...but there are also younger players like Langford, Bassey, Roby, Tre Jones...these are all expirings and quite all of them have already shown flashes of being players deserving at least consideration to be re signed...

[timtonymanu]

Last time I heard about this guy, Laker fans were hyping up as their defensive stopper :lol

[Maddog]

They waived Alize. Doubt there is more to this ither than 13-15th man musical chairs we’ve been playing for 2-3 seasons.

Simplest and most likely explanation.
It's something they have always done- Kick the tires on players.

Also with all the minor injuries having healthy bodies for practice- though the above is more likely

[exstatic]

They have a chance to look at him, and maybe another player before the cutdown deadline in January.

He’s truly horrible on offense. His O WSs are negative for his career.

[mo7888]

Situationally, he can be useful when you need a stop late in a game. Offensively, I'll be very surprised if he develops anything there but we can definitely afford to explore that this season. If you're going to play him in a regular rotation you better have several outside shooters on the floor. There's no way he can play with Jak and Sochan on the floor.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I doubt he is on the roster at the end of the season. I wonder if his contract is fully guaranteed. Although since the Spurs are under the minimum salary it's basically free money.

[jjspur]

At least he's cheap and has more experience than Alize Johnson (which isn't saying much), but he's probably on the roster only until the next flavor of the month comes along. :lol

[buttsR4rebounding]

At least he's cheap and has more experience than Alize Johnson (which isn't saying much), but he's probably on the roster only until the next flavor of the month comes along. :lol

This season will be remembered by Spurs fans as the year of the Johnson.

[exstatic]

At least he's cheap and has more experience than Alize Johnson (which isn't saying much), but he's probably on the roster only until the next flavor of the month comes along. :lol

Exactly. Until the guarantee deadline in January,they’ll use the spot to check out players. I guess it’s easier to cycle them thru a 15 man roster spot than a 2 way? At the guarantee deadline, they’ll probably cut whoever occupies it, and sign Bassey for the rest of the year on a Hinkey deal, 4 years minimum, one, or maybe two years guaranteed,

[Atl Spur]

He can defend & shoot a little. Expectations are wait & see

[exstatic]

He can defend & shoot a little. Expectations are wait & see

He can’t shoot for shit. He’s a NO-3 and D. His overall career FG% is 38. His overall 3G% is 30. Eight seasons, 420 games. It’s not a small sample size.

[KobesAchilles]

So we replaced PPrimo with a Johnson?

[exstatic]

So we replaced PPrimo with a Johnson?

Twice.

Primo -> Alize Johnson -> Stanley Johnson. That’s the abridged version,but it will do for now.

[KobesAchilles]

Twice.

Primo -> Alize Johnson -> Stanley Johnson. That’s the abridged version,but it will do for now.
Are we going to sign the same amount of Johnsons for every time PPrimo had his exposed?

[Mr. Body]

They're bringing him in to show Sochan what his career will become if he doesn't learn to shoot.

[exstatic]

They're bringing him in to show Sochan what his career will become if he doesn't learn to shoot.

Sochans FG% is 47. That’s not stunning, but it’s a fuck of a lot better than Stanley’s. Sochan lacks a 3 pointer. Johnson lacks a jump shot.

[poopbox]

They're bringing him in to show Sochan what his career will become if he doesn't learn to shoot.
:lmao

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

SIX FOOT EIGHT

[Atl Spur]

Well, we usually help cultivate jump shooting. He has intangibles that makes him worth a peaksee:) tThis is the type of season to do such things……remember?

[KingKev]

“Stanley Johnson will be okay”

[buttsR4rebounding]

He will be the 14th Johnson in Spurs' history. Only 4 made it more than one season. (Research by Jeff McDonald) San Antonio: where Johnsons get exposed.

[exstatic]

Well, we usually help cultivate jump shooting. He has intangibles that makes him worth a peaksee:) tThis is the type of season to do such things……remember?

Chip is gone.

[Atl Spur]

Chip is gone.

So the shooting expertise left with chip? In 17/18 yrs he was here, I’m sure practices & principles were observed��

[exstatic]

So the shooting expertise left with chip? In 17/18 yrs he was here, I’m sure practices & principles were observed��

There’s a reason they paid him what they paid him for 17 years, and it isn’t Next Man Up.

[Atl Spur]

There’s a reason they paid him what they paid him for 17 years, and it isn’t Next Man Up.

Ok. I hope this is not the case but we’ll see soon enough.