Week 17 by MM's chances with Victoria Odintcova

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Thursday
Dallas @ Tennessee

Sunday
Arizona @ Atlanta
Chicago @ DetroitI
Denver @ Kansas City
Miami @ New England
Indianapolis @ New York
New Orleans @ Philadelphia
Carolina @ Tampa Bay
Cleveland @ Washington
Jacksonville @ Houston
San Francisco @ Las Vegas
New York @ Seattle
Minnesota @ Green Bay
Los Angeles @ Los Angeles
Pittsburgh @ Baltimore

Monday
Buffalo @ Cincinnati

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[MultiTroll]

Can the Bills win without the Bills Labia?

On the road vs Cinci with huge Bye implications.
I win either way as a Bills win pushes Cinci back into a tie with Baltimore.
I still have slim hopes for Action Jackson back for the playoffs to lead the inept Ravens.
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[Millennial_Messiah]

Cincinnati wins and I'm not particularly attracted to foreign/Russian women so it's all good.

Joe Burrow >>>>>>>>>> Trash Allen. Go Bengals. :toast

[Millennial_Messiah]

Derrick Henry not expected to play against Cowboys. Jalen Hurts not expected to play vs. Saints. New Orleans still technically in the NFCS hunt, and don't have a draft pick to play for regardless. So you're telling me there's a chance.

[MultiTroll]

Titans may well be eliminated tonight.
Dallas wants to keep pace with Philly.

Jags vs Texans
Should be solid tank by the Texans. :lol

Talk about falling off a cliff.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Titans may well be eliminated tonight.
Dallas wants to keep pace with Philly.

Jags vs Texans
Should be solid tank by the Texans. :lol

Talk about falling off a cliff.
To be fair the Texans played hard last week and beat the Titans. I think they’ve locked up the #1 overall pick (maybe the Bears still have a shot) already too so I bet they play hard. Mills sure will since he’s obviously playing for his career

[MultiTroll]

To be fair the Texans played hard last week and beat the Titans. I think they’ve locked up the #1 overall pick (maybe the Bears still have a shot) already too so I bet they play hard. Mills sure will since he’s obviously playing for his career
True.

Texans guaranteed the #1 by losing out.
However, dk them well enough to know what draft player they have their eyes set on. If it's #2 or 3 then ya go ahead and try to win out.

This years draft appears to have no absolute must have #1 pick.

So ya I'm hesitant to drop large bank on the Texans losing vs Jax.

[DeadlyDynasty]

True.

Texans guaranteed the #1 by losing out.
However, dk them well enough to know what draft player they have their eyes set on. If it's #2 or 3 then ya go ahead and try to win out.

This years draft appears to have no absolute must have #1 pick.

So ya I'm hesitant to drop large bank on the Texans losing vs Jax.
I’d have to see the line on the game. If it’s anything over -3 Jags then I would probably abstain. These dudes almost beat the Cowboys and Chiefs in b2b weeks

[Millennial_Messiah]

To be fair the Texans played hard last week and beat the Titans. I think they’ve locked up the #1 overall pick (maybe the Bears still have a shot) already too so I bet they play hard. Mills sure will since he’s obviously playing for his career

They definitely haven't locked up the #1 overall pick. The Bears are a half game behind and they can't tie because Houston has a tie the first game of the season. If the Bears lose out (they will) and the Texans win one, the Bears get the #1 overall pick

[Millennial_Messiah]

This years draft appears to have no absolute must have #1 pick.

This is also true. None of the QBs this year are for sure blue chips. Just another class of run of the mill college offense BQBs from schools that don't translate well at the QB position to the NFL.

There's a couple really neat defenders, but it's looking like another 2013/2014 repeat where you get two drafts in a row where the QB class in underwhelming after having a string of QB heavy draft classes. I guess that's the way it goes. You can also throw 2015 into that mix based on NFL results but hindsight is 20/20 since Winston and Mariota were pretty highly regarded out of college even though they shouldn't have been.

[Mark Celibate]

This is also true. None of the QBs this year are for sure blue chips. Just another class of run of the mill college offense BQBs from schools that don't translate well at the QB position to the NFL.

There's a couple really neat defenders, but it's looking like another 2013/2014 repeat where you get two drafts in a row where the QB class in underwhelming after having a string of QB heavy draft classes. I guess that's the way it goes. You can also throw 2015 into that mix based on NFL results but hindsight is 20/20 since Winston and Mariota were pretty highly regarded out of college even though they shouldn't have been.

rofl yeah they're all starting to blend together and getting hard to tell them apart. Stereotypical mixed-race Uncle Tom, with the cotton candy mop-top: Haskins, Fields, Lance, Hurts, Young, Murray, Stroud, etc ... the current college QB prototype is a Zionist Jew wet dream tbh imho

[Millennial_Messiah]

rofl yeah they're all starting to blend together and getting hard to tell them apart. Stereotypical mixed-race Uncle Tom, with the cotton candy mop-top: Haskins, Fields, Lance, Hurts, Young, Murray, Stroud, etc ... the current college QB prototype is a Zionist Jew wet dream tbh imho

But for every ten or twenty of those you get one Mahomes, so there's that

[Mark Celibate]

But for every ten or twenty of those you get one Mahomes, so there's that

meh Mahomes was much different than those guys tho. He was making those crazy throws off his back foot 50 yards downfield to mostly no name receivers. Also played with a historically bad defense and still got Tech bowl eligible. Much different than these other guys who are running the same read options behind stacked offensive lines and hitting wide open n1ggerfreak receivers with nobody within 15 yards. Mahomes was atleast by far the best player on his team it’s just everybody was skeptical at the time of Big 12 quarterbacks

[MultiTroll]

Stoopid turnovers by the Bois.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ugh Dak :pctoss yet again with the 2nd quarter INT. Just mind numbingly bad.

[Mark Celibate]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[MultiTroll]

Pathetic O and D by the Bois.

[benefactor]

:lol Dak

[Will Hunting]

I’m not watching but I’m guessing Dak was doing the stanky leg in the pocket a lot in the first half :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Prescott with a fumble and 2 INTs in the second quarter alone :lol :bang

Only 3 more INTs for the Full Delhomme tbh

[Mark Celibate]

I’m not watching but I’m guessing Dak was doing the stanky leg in the pocket a lot in the first half :lol

He's been "Tom Brady-like" on 6 yards and in checkdowns...anything further downfield has pretty much been incomplete or intercepted :lol

[Mark Celibate]

:lol McBot out of breath and struggling for words just walking back from the locker room

[MultiTroll]

Titan db bails out Cuck big time. :lol

[Mark Celibate]

The Cucking pt II

[Millennial_Messiah]

Typical Cowturds prime Bot Marinelli defense.... bend, bend, bend, and...... break. Of course they give up the TD on 3rd and long. :pctoss

[Will Hunting]

It definitely seems like the generic Uncle Tom mulato QB is multiplying. They’re all over the place now.

[Mark Celibate]

now that the game is getting out of reach, I have a feeling garbage time Joe Montana will be making an appearance tbh imho

[Mark Celibate]

rofl right on cue, Dak comes out trying to stat pad and air it out instead of running out the clock :lol took no time off the clock

[Mark Celibate]

Kelvin Joseph getting murdered in coverage just like he murdered that guy outside the bar back in March imho

[Millennial_Messiah]

rofl right on cue, Dak comes out trying to stat pad and air it out instead of running out the clock :lol took no time off the clock

Yeah, but, to be fair airing it out has been the only thing that's worked with Pollard out. The run blocking is putrid especially up the middle and Elliott isn't athletic enough to overcome that anymore.

Lamb and TY Hilton are keeping the offense barely afloat and leading the league in takeaways for the second straight year has kept the defense barely afloat. The team is teetering on the cliff on both sides of the ball. I fully expect them to get handed their ass in the playoffs.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Jeezus. The Cowbells ran 29 times for 37 fucking yards. :lmao

You'd think Pizza Boy Kellen Moore would grow a brain and give up trying to run the old hummer into the trees but nope... :pctoss


THROW. THE. DAMN. BALL.

[Will Hunting]

Jeezus. The Cowbells ran 29 times for 37 fucking yards. :lmao

You'd think Pizza Boy Kellen Moore would grow a brain and give up trying to run the old hummer into the trees but nope... :pctoss


THROW. THE. DAMN. BALL.
Malik Davis averaged 4 yards a carry and Pollard would have probably averaged 4.5 YAC if he was playing.

Zeke is washed though. I know he's only 27 and even though RBs have a short shelf life they're usually productive until around age 29-30, but staying out all night ooga boogaing in Uptown/Deep Ellum 2-3 times a week for the last 6 years in Dallas has taken its toll on his body.

Unless he's willing to take a massive pay cut Dallas should cut him and just absorb the cap hit next year, IIRC it's still a net ~$4 million cap savings if they cut him and they can easily find a goal line compliment to Pollard for less than $4 million (likely with a mid round draft pick).

[Mark Celibate]

For as much sh1t as I give Cuckott I will say he seems to finally be playing aggressive and throwing the ball downfield consistently as opposed to always checking it down if nobody is wide open. Seeing a lot more throws past the sticks and into tight windows this season. Actually playing like a legit QB imo even if it is leading to more interceptions. Always said I wanted more gunslinger in him. Like last game’s 3rd and 30 bomb to Hilton would’ve been a safe 5 yd check down then punt with pre-2022 Dak. Dak in early years tried to keep his completion rate high, and interception rate low so that he could maximize his chances at pulling chicks when ooga booga-ing in Deep Ellum/Uptown after the game


The offense still lives and dies with the running game but atleast he’s now giving the offense a chance on 3rd and long

[Millennial_Messiah]

Malik Davis averaged 4 yards a carry and Pollard would have probably averaged 4.5 YAC if he was playing.

Zeke is washed though. I know he's only 27 and even though RBs have a short shelf life they're usually productive until around age 29-30, but staying out all night ooga boogaing in Uptown/Deep Ellum 2-3 times a week for the last 6 years in Dallas has taken its toll on his body.

Unless he's willing to take a massive pay cut Dallas should cut him and just absorb the cap hit next year, IIRC it's still a net ~$4 million cap savings if they cut him and they can easily find a goal line compliment to Pollard for less than $4 million (likely with a mid round draft pick).
Pollard is also a UFA after this year which is a problem. Malik Davis looks like a decent scatback but not much else. He is quite quick and fast but small. If there's a big hole he's going to hit it quick and get more yards than Zeke. He's not going to break tackles or plow his way through linebackers but he can elude them enough to get positive yards if he's open. The best use for him is like a James White type deal as we saw a couple times yesterday where he would run to the shallow hole of the zone and pick up the first down by dodging defenders. Of course Pollard is elite at that and can also break tacklers and make people miss, so he was certainly missed last night.

I'd be happy with cutting Elliott in the offseason and drafting a young hungry power back or two in the mid to late rounds to replace him. Not before 3rd round though no matter what, arguably not before 4th round. That's a necessary but expendable position. I would franchise Pollard or bring him back on a long term if he isn't going to break the bank.

[Millennial_Messiah]

For as much sh1t as I give Cuckott I will say he seems to finally be playing aggressive and throwing the ball downfield consistently as opposed to always checking it down if nobody is wide open. Seeing a lot more throws past the sticks and into tight windows this season. Actually playing like a legit QB imo even if it is leading to more interceptions. Always said I wanted more gunslinger in him. Like last game’s 3rd and 30 bomb to Hilton would’ve been a safe 5 yd check down then punt with pre-2022 Dak. Dak in early years tried to keep his completion rate high, and interception rate low so that he could maximize his chances at pulling chicks when ooga booga-ing in Deep Ellum/Uptown after the game


The offense still lives and dies with the running game but atleast he’s now giving the offense a chance on 3rd and long

Agree with this post :tu

This version of Brett Favre-ian Dak is good to see. You always want a QB that can do a little everything, who gives you a chance regardless of situation, regardless of down and distance. Mike McCarthy had two of those in GB and it's good to see Dak is stepping up and playing like them and not Matt Lafleur era "only throw it if only your guy can catch it but don't risk the INT" Rodgers.

People complaining about the INTs are also the same people that complain about the check down Charlie's we've had over the years including a younger Dak. So they can't have it both ways.

[Mark Celibate]

Agree with this post :tu

This version of Brett Favre-ian Dak is good to see. You always want a QB that can do a little everything, who gives you a chance regardless of situation, regardless of down and distance. Mike McCarthy had two of those in GB and it's good to see Dak is stepping up and playing like them and not Matt Lafleur era "only throw it if only your guy can catch it but don't risk the INT" Rodgers.

People complaining about the INTs are also the same people that complain about the check down Charlie's we've had over the years including a younger Dak. So they can't have it both ways.

After the embarrassing game against Texans, afterwards he said "I'm not going to stop being aggressive just because I threw an interception" instead of the usual canned "got to be better" response. I thought that was the right attitude, and thought that maybe he was starting to change his ways from being a checkdown All-American. Even though it's fun to troll in here, you always want a QB who has that IDGAF mentality. Who knows if he'll keep that same mentality in the playoffs, but that's why I always thought Romo was better because he'd singlehandedly give you a chance in any game (even if he'd lose you some by himself too).

With Dak, you always knew it would be checkdowns, screens, bootlegs, or short curl routes against zone. And then once garbage time came around and the pressure was off, he'd start slinging it all over the place. All you had to on third down was blitz and play man to man because you knew he'd panic and look for the tight end or running back. Always secretly hoped he'd prove me wrong and take a "Russell Wilson" type career arc since he does seem to have an IQ above "ooga booga" level like Wilson. Wilson went from only being able to throw screen passes or hit wide open receivers off of those gimmicky "pick plays" to being an MVP candidate.

[Millennial_Messiah]

you always want a QB who has that IDGAF mentality. Who knows if he'll keep that same mentality in the playoffs, but that's why I always thought Romo was better because he'd singlehandedly give you a chance in any game (even if he'd lose you some by himself too).

Dak 100% needs to do that this playoffs or he needs to be shown the door. Last year against the Niners was an embarrassment. How many goddamn sacks did he take? Just throw the damn ball and give your playmakers a chance. Like we saw last night, the refs will throw DPI a good percentage of the time. Taking a sack to me is worse than throwing an INT (obviously, there are certain late-game situations when leading where taking a sack is the right decision, but not the very vast majority of the time) because you're quitting and not even trying vs. trying your best and maybe failing, maybe succeeding, maybe drawing a flag.

[Millennial_Messiah]

If Dak is indeed a gunslinger (oh by the way Ceedee Lamb has the most quiet 1300 yard season you'll ever see despite getting literally next to no production in the five games with Cooper Rush starting, and TY Hilton has proven to be a legit #2 despite just getting here a few weeks back) we have a chance to win the Super Bowl.

McCarthy needs to strangle Moore and give up the run and throw the ball more if we run into teams like the Niners and Eagles and the run game isn't working.

[leemajors]

I'd just like to see a little more creative run attack than just running right into the middle of a good run defense, or jet sweeps with a WR. The former seemed to happen a lot more in the second half

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'd just like to see a little more creative run attack than just running right into the middle of a good run defense, or jet sweeps with a WR. The former seemed to happen a lot more in the second half
How about more just max protect with 6 OL and Zeke and your best blocking TE and send only Lamb and Hilton on routes. At some point one of those two will get open.

[FrostKing]

Just read the story about the Falcons WR failing DUI sobriety check, fighting Police then fleeing in car

😄 these guys watch too many movies. Bring back the show 'Cops'

[Mark Celibate]

Millennial_Messiah
Will Hunting

Looks like the Eagles may have been ooga booga'ing too hard on New Year's Eve in whatever the Philly equivalent of Uptown/Deep Ellum is....if this score holds up would be an interesting Week 17 tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

Millennial_Messiah
Will Hunting

Looks like the Eagles may have been ooga booga'ing too hard on New Year's Eve in whatever the Philly equivalent of Uptown/Deep Ellum is....if this score holds up would be an interesting Week 17 tbh
You have to worry and wonder though if the Giants might be resting starters at Philly in week 18 though. They'd be locked into that #6 seed.

[MultiTroll]

:bang
When teams have that cockroach Brady down would they please put the f-er away?
14-7 less then 2 minutes to play, Carolina up 14-7 with ball.

Just go for a 1st down OR run out the f-ing clock.

Nooo 1st play Darnold fumbles so Numb Nutts Brady gets the chip shot fg to close to 14-10.
You can just feel another 4 qtr giveaway coming on.

[DAF86]

Butker needs to be cut asap. Some of these misses aren't even close.

[Mark Celibate]

You have to worry and wonder though if the Giants might be resting starters at Philly in week 18 though. They'd be locked into that #6 seed.

Fuck. Forgot about that

[Millennial_Messiah]

:bang
When teams have that cockroach Brady down would they please put the f-er away?
14-7 less then 2 minutes to play, Carolina up 14-7 with ball.

Just go for a 1st down OR run out the f-ing clock.

Nooo 1st play Darnold fumbles so Numb Nutts Brady gets the chip shot fg to close to 14-10.
You can just feel another 4 qtr giveaway coming on.

Even dumber is the BHC kicking that FG there on 4th and less than 1 as opposed to going for it like you know Bruce Arians would have

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fuck. Forgot about that

And hopefully Commanders hold on (they should, the Browns are terrible) and Packers lose so the Commanders are locked into #7 as well

Although I do think GB beats the Vikings, we haven't had a "Godgers" moment yet despite the fact GB has won a few in a row

[Robz4000]

:wow Mike Evans making up for being trash all season in fantasy

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Gardner Minshew with the 2019 Dak Prescott goods... pick 6 in the redzone, followed by throwing an 8-yard bomb on 4th and 22.

Eagles lose.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Commanders lost at home to the Browns. :lmao at Riverboat Trash be@ner starting Wentz over Heinecke. Now they miss the playoffs. Looks like either Packers or Lions make the playoffs. Or Seattle.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Sack fumble, Bucs recover, Tampa wins, Beowulf is officially in the playoffs at age 45. Thank goodness. :toast

Fuck off Panthers.....

[lefty20]

Vikings :lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

Packers give up a bad play on special teams, then get one in their favor.

Amazing the Packers control their own playoff destiny now. And we haven't even had a Godgers moment yet.

If Eagles lose next week and 49ers win out... Packers @ Cowboys in Round 1 is actually a possibility :wow Daddy Godgers in Dallas again??

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Viqueens

:lol down 14-3 at Lambeau in the first quarter despite negative production from Rodgers

[Will Hunting]

God if Green Bay actually makes the playoffs we’re going to hear nonstop shit about Rodgers being incredible despite playing like dogshit most of the season

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao are the 2022-23 Viqueens the most fraudulent team in NFL history?

All 12 of their wins are by one score or less, and they've been outright shellacked 3 times with a 4th on the way today. They were very lucky to beat Buffalo, but haven't beaten a true contender this season in any case.

[Millennial_Messiah]

God if Green Bay actually makes the playoffs we’re going to hear nonstop shit about Rodgers being incredible despite playing like dogshit most of the season

It's going to depend on what they actually do in the playoffs. They can only get the #7 seed. If they get that #7 seed they'll be going on the road every game and their road track record in the playoffs with Rodgers has not been good.

Who would the #2 seed be though? If it's Minnesota or Dallas I could see GB winning. In the case of Minnesota because they're frauds and GB is probably better, and in the case of Dallas just because Rodgers is the Cowboys' daddy. If it's the 49ers the Packers definitely lose big, and if it's the Eagles the Packers probably still lose.

[GAustex]

Living rent free

[Millennial_Messiah]

Living rent free

Godgers finally made a play. Packers up 24-3 not even halftime yet.

Vikings either win by 3 every game this year or get dicked down hard. Today's looking like the latter.

[Robz4000]

Need Jefferson to stay locked up tbh.

[GAustex]

Where has this been all year

[lefty20]

CMC with the grown man play.

[Will Hunting]

:lmao the VikFrauds keeping Cousins in to stat pad

[Robz4000]

:lmao the VikFrauds keeping Cousins in to stat pad

Guess one of their higher ups has him in fantasy tbh.

[Will Hunting]

Guess one of their higher ups has him in fantasy tbh.
They’re prolly embarrassed over their point differential so they’re trying to make it less pathetic :lol

[Robz4000]

:lol Niners choking

[Millennial_Messiah]

Niners/Raiders game is fire tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

Need Jefferson to stay locked up tbh.

Well good news is he might be suspended next week because he hit a ref with his helmet. Looked on purpose too

[Robz4000]

:lmao Gould

[lefty20]

Damn... That's automatic range for Gould

[Millennial_Messiah]

Robbie Gould tbh :lol

The Raiders are still eliminated with a tie and the 49ers seed doesn't improve with a tie, so a tie benefits no one, so both teams are going to be playing for the win and win only in OT. Going to be fun to watch :tu

[Millennial_Messiah]

Come on Stidham/Adams... need a TD here, tbh :tu let's go spurraider21 s :tu

[DeadlyDynasty]

Epic game. I hope Stidham saves some of this magic for next week so it can help Buffalo

[MultiTroll]

If Niner continues to choke this away....
Can Cowgirl become #1 seed next weekend?

[Robz4000]

In b4 Gould chokes again

[Millennial_Messiah]

Crap... lame ending, tbh :td

Stidham with the bads but the left tackle needs to be shot or at least cut tomorrow... what a soft ass marshmallow slug.

[Millennial_Messiah]

In b4 Gould chokes again

not from 28, tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

Epic game. I hope Stidham saves some of this magic for next week so it can help Buffalo

No, they'll be tanking now that they lost, because they're officially eliminated.

[MultiTroll]

So Raider Fan,
Should Stidham have been in all year?

[Millennial_Messiah]

If Niner continues to choke this away....
Can Cowgirl become #1 seed next weekend?
Right, the Niners would need to lose at home to a horrible, no-QB, 4-12 Arizona for the Cowboys to get the #1 seed (along with Philly losing at home to the Giants who have nothing to play for). Very unlikely.

Also almost certain that either the Niners or Cowboys will be hosting Green Bay in the first round. Bet you can't guess which one Rodgers and the Packers organization are hoping for? :lmao

[Millennial_Messiah]

Minnesota essentially locked into the three seed even though they'll beat the tanking Bears next weekend. All 4 of Minnesota's losses have come within the NFC, and they lose the tiebreaker with every other possible team. As it should be, because they're a mediocre team that has been lucky but not good this season.

[Will Hunting]

Niners/Raiders game is fire tbh
Jared THE HOWITZER Stidham played really well

[Robz4000]

Too bad the NFL will prolly have the Eagles, Niners, Vikings, and Cowgirls all play at the same time. Would be nice to have the option to sit everyone if the Niners got locked into the second seed.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Too bad the NFL will prolly have the Eagles, Niners, Vikings, and Cowgirls all play at the same time. Would be nice to have the option to sit everyone if the Niners got locked into the second seed.

That's the way it should be.

Meaningless games for both teams go first

Then the games that are meaningful for at least one side

Then you pick a game for sunday night if there's one that's equally or at least close to equally meaningful for both sides. Can't have a one sided shitshow like the horrible SNF flex in 2020 where one side was playing to win and get in and the other side was clearly and obviously tanking for a draft pick. Better off doing it like 2017 and having no SNF game in that case if there's literally no choices.

In some years like 2016 there are mediocre choices and there are years like 2017 and 2020 where there are no good choices

I think everyone thinks that Detroit at Lambeau vs GB will be the SNF game next week but you've got to factor in that if the Seahawks win then Detroit is out and thus playing for nothing and it will be one sided. The only true win and in is Titans/Jaguars which obviously are two low profile low ceiling teams from the worst division in football but at least it's a win and in.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Jared THE HOWITZER Stidham played really well

I don't get that reference

Stidham was good for a first outing, but they need to invest in better pass protection. He practically got killed every time he dropped back to throw. Their left tackle in particular was atrocious today.

Davante Adams was a big time hit for sure in 2022-23 and the Raiders would be stupid to ship him back off. The reason their ship sunk this year was poor coaching, poor defense and poor pass protection. Derek Carr was just fine and he was not part of the problem, but I suppose they'll scapegoat him.

[Robz4000]

That's the way it should be.

Meaningless games for both teams go first

Then the games that are meaningful for at least one side

Then you pick a game for sunday night if there's one that's equally or at least close to equally meaningful for both sides. Can't have a one sided shitshow like the horrible SNF flex in 2020 where one side was playing to win and get in and the other side was clearly and obviously tanking for a draft pick. Better off doing it like 2017 and having no SNF game in that case if there's literally no choices.

In some years like 2016 there are mediocre choices and there are years like 2017 and 2020 where there are no good choices

I think everyone thinks that Detroit at Lambeau vs GB will be the SNF game next week but you've got to factor in that if the Seahawks win then Detroit is out and thus playing for nothing and it will be one sided. The only true win and in is Titans/Jaguars which obviously are two low profile low ceiling teams from the worst division in football but at least it's a win and in.

I'm not disagreeing from a neutral standpoint. Just would be nice as a Niner fan to get the starters some rest.

[Will Hunting]

I don't get that reference

Stidham was good for a first outing, but they need to invest in better pass protection. He practically got killed every time he dropped back to throw. Their left tackle in particular was atrocious today.

Davante Adams was a big time hit for sure in 2022-23 and the Raiders would be stupid to ship him back off. The reason their ship sunk this year was poor coaching, poor defense and poor pass protection. Derek Carr was just fine and he was not part of the problem, but I suppose they'll scapegoat him.
I’m referring to THE HOWITZER in between his legs :lol

https://chumley.barstoolsports.com/union/2020/04/09/ad96153a.jpg

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[MultiTroll]

:lmao Harbaugh and OC Greg Roman are the most pathetic closers in a lonnng time.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I’m referring to THE HOWITZER in between his legs :lol

https://chumley.barstoolsports.com/union/2020/04/09/ad96153a.jpg

https://chumley.barstoolsports.com/union/2020/04/09/9025229f.jpg?canvas=560%3A420&bg-color=FFFFFF
:lol

I remember there was a similar pic from around 11-12 years ago that floated around ST with Serge Ibaka and it was roughly twice as big as that guy's though.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'm not disagreeing from a neutral standpoint. Just would be nice as a Niner fan to get the starters some rest.

Go win your conference outright then. Don't lose to the worst team in the conference (the Bears). Don't lose to lowly Denver and Struggle Wilson. Don't lose to QB-less Atlanta. Don't give up 44 at home against Mahomes. If you want a late bye you've got to earn it early. Can't play down to inferior competition early.

Stinking up September matters.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao Harbaugh and OC Greg Roman are the most pathetic closers in a lonnng time.

Nah.

More like Mike Tomlin is like that late winter bronchitis that you can't seem to get rid of or kill no matter what you throw at it.

Mike. Tomlin. Always. Just. Keeps. Coming.

9-8 and keeping the above .500 streak alive with by far the worst team and worst circumstances he's had. He should be a COTY candidate even though he won't because 9-8 isn't good enough to win that award, playoffs or not.

[MultiTroll]

Nah.
Yah.
Merely needing to eat clock at worst and score a FG or TD at best, their final drives before the desperation...

4 out
3 out
3 out

That was suck ass O and playcalling, not some Tomlin greatness or otherworldly D.

Ravens lead the NFL in choked off large 4th qtr deficits.

[Robz4000]

Go win your conference outright then. Don't lose to the worst team in the conference (the Bears). Don't lose to lowly Denver and Struggle Wilson. Don't lose to QB-less Atlanta. Don't give up 44 at home against Mahomes. If you want a late bye you've got to earn it early. Can't play down to inferior competition early.

Stinking up September matters.

I get that. I'm saying if they know their seeding before the game they can opt to sit players.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I get that. I'm saying if they know their seeding before the game they can opt to sit players.

Sitting guys is rarely a winning strategy long term... you need to be playing your best football going into the playoffs, not limp in.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ravens lead the NFL in choked off large 4th qtr deficits.

No they don't :lol pretty sure teams like the Colts, Falcons and others would beg to dream and differ, but I'll let you have your five minutes of fun.

But as for the bad offense, that's what happens I guess when you have a bad QB situation in which your QB1 is run-first and super injury prone and regularly misses time and you have to rely on your defense week in and week out.

[Robz4000]

Sitting guys is rarely a winning strategy long term... you need to be playing your best football going into the playoffs, not limp in.

Niners have won 9 in a row tbh.

[Mark Celibate]

Daboll says Giants won't be resting starters. tbh may not be a bad idea to play the game out even if they are locked in at the 6 seed if they want to really get on a roll. They're obviously going to be a Wild Card team who will be playing all road games. And beating the current #1 seed on the road, in somewhat of a tune up game, will give them lots of momentum as opposed to just backpedaling in

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/0cDcFHx/Screenshot-20230101-165005-Chrome.jpg

[MultiTroll]

No they don't :lol pretty sure teams like the Colts, Falcons and others would beg to dream and differ, but I'll let you have your five minutes of fun.
:rollin
I'd arrange to collect from you but probably you'll just welsh.

This was after only 6 games:

4 Quarters — Ravens - Giants What Learned in Week 6 - Sports Illustrated Baltimore Ravens News, Analysis and More (https://www.si.com/nfl/ravens/news/4-quarters-ravens-giants-what-learned-in-week-6)

[DeadlyDynasty]

Daboll says Giants won't be resting starters. tbh may not be a bad idea to play the game out even if they are locked in at the 6 seed if they want to really get on a roll. They're obviously going to be a Wild Card team who will be playing all road games. And beating the current #1 seed on the road, in somewhat of a tune up game, will give them lots of momentum as opposed to just backpedaling in
Plus, other than Barkley, pretty much the entire team is replaceable in case of injury. It’s truly a remarkable coaching job despite the lack of talent

[Millennial_Messiah]

Daboll says Giants won't be resting starters. tbh may not be a bad idea to play the game out even if they are locked in at the 6 seed if they want to really get on a roll. They're obviously going to be a Wild Card team who will be playing all road games. And beating the current #1 seed on the road, in somewhat of a tune up game, will give them lots of momentum as opposed to just backpedaling in

Unless GB gets on a big roll and takes out some top contenders... wouldn't be impossible, tbh, especially if one of those is at South Lambeau, also known as Jerryworld...

[Millennial_Messiah]

Daboll says Giants won't be resting starters. tbh may not be a bad idea to play the game out even if they are locked in at the 6 seed if they want to really get on a roll. will give them lots of momentum as opposed to just backpedaling in
Yeah agreed, that's my theory as well, and the Giants did that in the last game of the season vs the Patriots in 2007 just before the NFL went to mandatory intra-division scheduling I believe the next year. The Giants had nothing to play for, nothing to gain or lose by winning or losing as they were locked into the #5 seed, but just barely lost that game and it would propel them to that unlikely championship.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Niners have won 9 in a row tbh.

right, and making it 13 in a row would be nice. Losing at home against AZ would be a stink pot heading into the playoffs and guys would lose their confidence.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yeah agreed, that's my theory as well, and the Giants did that in the last game of the season vs the Patriots in 2007 just before the NFL went to mandatory intra-division scheduling I believe the next year. The Giants had nothing to play for, nothing to gain or lose by winning or losing as they were locked into the #5 seed, but just barely lost that game and it would propel them to that unlikely championship.

They also ruined he Redskins playoff chances in Week 17 of 2016 when they were locked into the 5th seed there as well.

[MultiTroll]

Buffalo can get much closer to the clinch tonight. Would not rely at Harbaugh - Romaine at all in final week 18 Cinci vs Baltimore:

"On Sunday, Baltimore scored only three second-half points off a 51-yard Justin Tucker field goal with 9:31 left in the third quarter. Its final four drives went for a combined 44 yards."

[Mark Celibate]

Unless GB gets on a big roll and takes out some top contenders... wouldn't be impossible, tbh, especially if one of those is at South Lambeau, also known as Jerryworld...

The consensus among Cowboy fans this season has been interesting. There are plenty that think it will just be the same old, same old in the playoffs and on the other hand, you have the other half that think things will be different and that Dak has taken the 'next step'. It's practically 50/50 between the blind homers (I'm not worried about Philadelphia!) and suicidal ones like myself (first round exit here we come!)

Basically the fanbase is split down the middle with each side believing one extreme....just like pussyface described in the original "Viability of Suicide" thread imo

[Mark Celibate]

The funny thing is that Dallas is going to either be the 5 seed and play Tom Brady ( who has never lost to them) or likely get the 2 seed and have to face Aaron Rodgers again :lol

[lefty20]

Scheduling the Hawks before the Lions-Packers seems... interesting.

A Hawks W against the Rams will mean the Lions have exactly nothing riding on the game. And a Packers W would actually knock the Hawks outta the final spot.

Wasn't avoiding a scenario like this the entire reason behind not setting week 18 kickoff times until the final week?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Scheduling the Hawks before the Lions-Packers seems... interesting.

A Hawks W against the Rams will mean the Lions have exactly nothing riding on the game. And a Packers W would actually knock the Hawks outta the final spot.

Wasn't avoiding a scenario like this the entire reason behind not setting week 18 kickoff times until the final week?
This is the Dan Campbell Hard Knocks Lions who started 1-6 and will play their hearts out to finish with a winning record and a chance to eliminate/sweep GB, imo.

They’ve only had 2 real stinkers on the year (@NE and @Car), and 5 of the other 6 losses were by four points or less

[Millennial_Messiah]

Scheduling the Hawks before the Lions-Packers seems... interesting.

A Hawks W against the Rams will mean the Lions have exactly nothing riding on the game. And a Packers W would actually knock the Hawks outta the final spot.

Wasn't avoiding a scenario like this the entire reason behind not setting week 18 kickoff times until the final week?

This is the Dan Campbell Hard Knocks Lions who started 1-6 and will play their hearts out to finish with a winning record and a chance to eliminate/sweep GB, imo.

They’ve only had 2 real stinkers on the year (@NE and @Car), and 5 of the other 6 losses were by four points or less
Also, Lambeau being the last game of the regular season (on SNF to boot) with national audience and Aaron Godgers win and in to make the playoffs is too big of a media draw for them to pass up.

[Millennial_Messiah]

They also ruined he Redskins playoff chances in Week 17 of 2016 when they were locked into the 5th seed there as well.

Yup I remember that one as well. OBJ finally getting his "revenge" on Josh Norman.

[DeadlyDynasty]

It’s 03:04 here and I’ve tried but can’t stay awake. Hope I don’t wake up to a debacle

[Robz4000]

Oh shit, did Hamlin actually die on the field?

[Robz4000]

It’s 03:04 here and I’ve tried but can’t stay awake. Hope I don’t wake up to a debacle

Welp

[DAF86]

Fuck all the dumbasses that say that the NFL has gotten soft. It hasn't got soft enough. Everything other than arm tackles should be banned from the sport. No shoulder hits, no wrestling type body slams to the ground. Leave that barbaric shit for prehistoric civilization. You wanna know why the NFL isn't as popular as you think it should be? Because of this dumb ass shit.

Sorry for the emotional rant, but I can't deal with stupidity no more.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Oh shit, did Hamlin actually die on the field?

looked like a Shazier type of fluke injury

Hopefully he can walk again like Shazier did after a year or so

[Millennial_Messiah]

Fuck all the dumbasses that say that the NFL has gotten soft. It hasn't got soft enough. Everything other than arm tackles should be banned from the sport. No shoulder hits, no wrestling type body slams to the ground. Leave that barbaric shit for prehistoric civilization. You wanna know why the NFL isn't as popular as you think it should be? Because of this dumb ass shit.

Sorry for the emotional rant, but I can't deal with stupidity no more.
:lol Did your sister just ask you if she could borrow your last tampon? Tbh.

[Robz4000]

looked like a Shazier type of fluke injury

Hopefully he can walk again like Shazier did after a year or so

Doesn't look like a spinal injury, dude might've literally torn his aorta.

[DAF86]

:lol Did your sister just ask you if she could borrow your last tampon? Tbh.

If you watch the NFL for the "hits" instead of a great throw and catch, you are a dumb neanderthal. Simple as that.

[Will Hunting]

looked like a Shazier type of fluke injury

Hopefully he can walk again like Shazier did after a year or so
Doesn’t seem like a spine injury, seems like it was a really bad concussion that potentially caused cardiac arrest (which I didn’t even know was possible)

[Will Hunting]

They should postpone the game

[Robz4000]

They should postpone the game

Yep

[Ghazi]

They should postpone the game

How would that work?

[Robz4000]

Wouldn't shock me if some players from both teams end up stepping away from football after this.

[Robz4000]

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[Dick Jones]

Patients requiring CPR have like a 10% survival rate, this is really bad…

[lefty20]

Looks like he may have taken a direct shot in the chest might've triggered a cardiac arrest.



reminds me of that little league player dying after getting hbp on the chest

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-03-19-sp-649-story.html

[Robz4000]

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[Dick Jones]

LOL there’s already a bunch of conservatives questioning his vaccine status. Pure evil from the “the mass shooting corpses aren’t cold yet, have some humanity” crowd.

[lefty20]

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Boy getting ratioed hard af

[Millennial_Messiah]

Doesn't look like a spinal injury, dude might've literally torn his aorta.

Doesn’t seem like a spine injury, seems like it was a really bad concussion that potentially caused cardiac arrest (which I didn’t even know was possible)

Holy shit. Better get Ducky and Jimmy on the case then. :wow

[Millennial_Messiah]

1610101204687949827

Boy getting ratioed hard af

Simple. The score was 7-3 Cincinnati when that play happened, no? So do a casino style keno or ping pong ball setup with the Bengals having 70% of the ping pong balls and thus 70% chance to win. Draw ping pong ball tomorrow to determine the winner of the game.

[Millennial_Messiah]

LOL there’s already a bunch of conservatives questioning his vaccine status. Pure evil from the “the mass shooting corpses aren’t cold yet, have some humanity” crowd.

Plus the potential negative heart side effects of the original set of two mRNA shots (pfizer/moderna) last around 12 months as the half life is diminished by over 90% over that span. Also part of why those vaccines lose effect over time. Of course the boosters could open up that window again. We don't know and we won't know for 72 more years because they classified the information on that which is scummy. Still, incidents like these have happened well before covid and the controversies surrounding it, so it's very difficult to prove any kind of causation.

[Millennial_Messiah]

1610106980005191689

Good news at least he survived. More good news is that it's not a spinal injury so he'll walk again, but unfortunately his NFL career is likely over. Will need major heart surgery.

[Robz4000]

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[Will Hunting]

LOL there’s already a bunch of conservatives questioning his vaccine status. Pure evil from the “the mass shooting corpses aren’t cold yet, have some humanity” crowd.
Charlie Kirk being a piece of shit per par

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[Dick Jones]

Charlie Kirk being a piece of shit per par
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Sometimes I wish a burning hellfire existed, because that dickhead would be shot straight into it.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Charlie Kirk being a piece of shit per par

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This happened in 1990, way before vaccines became controversial, and this kid was 10 years old in a much less rough sport:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-03-19-sp-649-story.html

Flukes just happen

[Will Hunting]

:lol god, there are so many conservatives being giant assholes on Twitter RN

[Isitjustme?]

Charlie Kirk being a piece of shit per par

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I assume you seen the shrinking face twitter thread about him so i wont post it but its all i think of now

[FrostKing]

49ers

#2 seed

[GAustex]

Nm

[leemajors]

I'm glad the coaches made the call not to play. Goodell should have made a decision way sooner than that.

[Darth_Pelican]

Neurologically intact and awake. That's great news. Would be a miracle recovery

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/damar-hamlin-appears-neurologically-intact-team-teammate-adds-player-awake