Do we get Primo back next year?

[TrainOfThought5]

Assuming he stays quiet and clean this year and serves a Deshaun Watson-esque season long suspension. Do we get him back next year with Wembemyama/Scoot?

[tonight...you]

Nope. Not a chance.

[JPB]

Would depends on their relationship but the best I can see if Primo (who got paid to sit while spurs could have fired or suspend him for the rest of the season for his conduct, not paying his remaining money) wants to give back is agreeing on a sign and trade so spurs get something back (probably not much but a SRP would do it).

[Leetonidas]

Dudes damaged goods. Can't ever guarantee he wont whip his cock out on another unsuspecting cleaning lady

[spurraider21]

why would you want him back? dude was trash, even in summer league

[lefty20]

I doubt he sits out all year. He'll likely be signed by some team post all-star break, imo.

[KingKev]

Maybe we can redraft him this lottery? If you double down with an infinite bankroll you might just draw even.

Where is Miss Cleo?!? Can you opine? @atlspur

[MultiTroll]

Would depends on their relationship but the best I can see if Primo (who got paid to sit while spurs could have fired or suspend him for the rest of the season for his conduct, not paying his remaining money) wants to give back is agreeing on a sign and trade so spurs get something back (probably not much but a SRP would do it).
This

[The Truth #6]

Him whipping it out in retrospect was possibly a good thing for the team. Branham gets all those minutes instead and less wasted time awkwardly making Primo into a point guard. Primo could have been a fine roll player but that would have been a lot of headache to eventually arrive at that conclusion. I’m fine he’s gone. Barely a scandal nationally. It’s forgotten already. Moving on.

[slick'81]

:lol:lmao:rollin

[exstatic]

I doubt he sits out all year. He'll likely be signed by some team post all-star break, imo.

If someone was going to sign him, they would have already. He’s never coming back here, and I’m not sure he’ll ever play in the nba again.

[K...]

why a sign and trade? is he not signing for the min? you don't do that. Primo needed a bunch of reps to succeed and was behind the curve. Now he's behind the curve again 2x. no team is going to sigin him and give him the reps to get to NBA speed. He should sign abroad if he is truly ok.

[exstatic]

Would depends on their relationship but the best I can see if Primo (who got paid to sit while spurs could have fired or suspend him for the rest of the season for his conduct, not paying his remaining money) wants to give back is agreeing on a sign and trade so spurs get something back (probably not much but a SRP would do it).

What fucking planet are you living on? They DID fire him. They have to pay him because of contractual obligations, but they WAIVED him. There’s no getting anything for him via trade.

[Seventyniner]

This should have been a poll with two options: No and Hell No.

[spurs10]

The Spurs haven't exposed their feelings on this potential news flash.

[TDMVPDPOY]

guy is a scrub

[Mr. Body]

I mean, if he's whipping his dick out, what else is he doing? Has anyone checked his browser history?

[Atl Spur]

If someone was going to sign him, they would have already. He’s never coming back here, and I’m not sure he’ll ever play in the nba again.

I don’t agree…… the NBA has far worse redemption stories��

[Rocalcio]

why would you want him back? dude was trash, even in summer league

Not true.

[Rocalcio]

I don’t agree…… the NBA has far worse redemption stories��

This. Did everybody forget about Arenas bringing a gun in the locker room and aiming at a teammate with it ?

[slick'81]

I don’t agree…… the NBA has far worse redemption stories��


agreed. With enough medication and counseling im sure he can learn to keep it in his pants

[Larry O]

Primo burned his bridge with the Spurs and they moved on, not looking back. As for the NBA, eh, he could resurface in a year or two on a G-League team and both parties can test the waters. Time will tell...

[spurraider21]

This. Did everybody forget about Arenas bringing a gun in the locker room and aiming at a teammate with it ?
a) gilbert arenas also had the history of being a multiple time all star and all-nba player. teams are only willing to put up with headaches if the on-court play justifies it

b) when arenas came back from his suspension, he was traded a couple of months into the season to the magic and amnestied less than a year after that. not the best example of a successful comeback story tbh :lol

[KingKev]

I guess both Arenas and Primo pulled that thing out… difference is Arenas was a top 10 player at the time.

[timtonymanu]

Lol comparing that scrub Primo to Gilbert Arenas. Primo wasn’t even better than guys like Nando de Colo. no one would be racing to sign him.

[Proxy]

definitely. and kawhi will return, and Luka will return, after, we get wemby. cia pop

[venitian navigator]

I don't undestand the burning bridges point...after all Spurs and Primo have agreed about the fact that his behavior was fruit of a personality disorder aka a pathological situation.
Imho that's a starting point for the opposite of burning bridges...its simply the way it has to be for having a future chance of a player/team relationshp...I'm malad and I hope to be able to play again if and when my malady will be cured and became not a problem for me me or anybody.
The situation has been managed properly and finalized, till now, in the proper way and minimum amount of time.
Its true, on the opposite, that its difficult to imagine other teams signing him before Spurs sign him again...in this sense the risk is too much and Spurs are the only ones that know every nuance of the situation.
That said, the guy is still underage in most US states and the expectations on him have been big from the team since drafting him and in the years he played....also a lot of people following the team had a faith in the idea of Primo being in future a big time player. A lot of people sure that talent is there and just needs to be developed in the right amount of time.
So, imho, it all depends on the evolution of his medical situation and the evolution of his basketball skills and conditions... in that sense Spurs are obviously the team that can follow the entire thing and have in no time the more accurate informations...
If its worth the risk (because there will be a risky decision to take, considering that in any case no 100 % of complete mental health could be guaranteed by any doctor in the world), as in all choices, its more than possible the Spurs (and imho, probably,only the Spurs) will take the risk...

[cd98]

Losing a lottery pick like this is hard for fans to take, for sure. And just because he struggled his first two years doesn't mean he doesn't have potential. Spurs felt he had star potential. But the exposure thing screams against Spurs culture. That's a big deal and they take it seriously. I think they likely see the totality of what he brings as against their culture, which meant cut him and move on. Who knows how the decision will turn out for the Spurs and Primo in the long run.

[jjspur]

The spurs made a mistake in just drafting the guy, plus he didn't show all that much other than to maids and a shrink. Nope just move on from this immature clown and interview our future potential draftees a whole lot better.
The spurs should admit they made a mistake and move on. No sense in living in the past. If it helps Malakai, Wesley, Langford or even Stanley get more minutes and improve, then this incident can still have a silver lining. :clap

[rascal]

No, Spurs want to bury this as fast as they can now. They settled and now want to move on from it.

[Atl Spur]

Reading and comprehension is truly a lost art on Spurs Talk�� Slow down for a second…… damn!! Lol

[exstatic]

He’s
Not
Coming
Back.

[The Truth #6]

Spurs don’t want further risk and liability with him. As for whether or not this is a medical issue, I think that’s really a big gray area, and since his victim still works for the spurs, I see that as a huge roadblock to him coming back.

It reminds me of this baseball player named Rafael who couldn’t control himself:

https://youtu.be/5-uIwpo0dCU

[exstatic]

Spurs don’t want further risk and liability with him. As for whether or not this is a medical issue, I think that’s really a big gray area, and since his victim still works for the spurs, I see that as a huge roadblock to him coming back.

It reminds me of this baseball player named Rafael who couldn’t control himself:

https://youtu.be/5-uIwpo0dCU

I don’t think she still works for the Spurs.

[KingKev]

The main reason not to consider bringing bim back is that he isn’t very good at basketball

[spurraider21]

primo sucked anyway and i was pretty disturbed at the notion that the brass saw him as a face of the franchise type player and future starting PG. imo primo's incident saved them from themselves

[offset formation]

If someone was going to sign him, they would have already. He’s never coming back here, and I’m not sure he’ll ever play in the nba again.

Which ought to tell the average spurfan what a horrendous pick it was in retrospect. I'll never forget Ryen Russillo, a guy normally pretty deferential to the spurs ways, trashing that selection in real time.

And we could and should have had Sengun.

[offset formation]

Him whipping it out in retrospect was possibly a good thing for the team. Branham gets all those minutes instead and less wasted time awkwardly making Primo into a point guard. Primo could have been a fine roll player but that would have been a lot of headache to eventually arrive at that conclusion. I’m fine he’s gone. Barely a scandal nationally. It’s forgotten already. Moving on.

/thread.

[offset formation]

I don’t think she still works for the Spurs.

Supposedly as part of that settlement she was slated to have further duties with / for the spurs. Not sure if she'd actually be on the Spurs employee registry per se though.

[SpurSpike]

The way I see it the Spurs messed up 2 times with Primo.

1. The Spurs drafted Primo which was a mistake but at least it was a gamble that could have turned out.

2. The spurs cut Primo too soon. There are no formal charges and dropping seems a bit overboard for simply flashing, they should have held on till more information was available. Can't you just cut him later if it becomes a huge law suite or were the Spurs under some kind of deadline to drop him? That seemed like a poor hastily made decision at the time and even more so now.

[slick'81]

The way I see it the Spurs messed up 2 times with Primo.

1. The Spurs drafted Primo which was a mistake but at least it was a gamble that could have turned out.

2. The spurs cut Primo too soon. There are no formal charges and dropping seems a bit overboard for simply flashing, they should have held on till more information was available. Can't you just cut him later if it becomes a huge law suite or were the Spurs under some kind of deadline to drop him? That seemed like a poor hastily made decision at the time and even more so now.


:wow

[MultiTroll]

2. The spurs cut Primo too soon. There are no formal charges and dropping seems a bit overboard for simply flashing, they should have held on till more information was available. Can't you just cut him later if it becomes a huge law suite or were the Spurs under some kind of deadline to drop him? That seemed like a poor hastily made decision at the time and even more so now.
Dipshit lawyer Buzbee was going to go after the Spurs $$$$ vs just going after Primos $.

Legalities no doubt an additional if not the main reason why Spurs cut ties.

[cd98]

I don’t think she still works for the Spurs.

Right, I think she's just got paid as if she worked for the spurs times 4.

[cd98]

Supposedly as part of that settlement she was slated to have further duties with / for the spurs. Not sure if she'd actually be on the Spurs employee registry per se though.

I think it was just work together to develop a reporting process so this doesn't happen again type of thing.

[MultiTroll]

I think it was just work together to develop a reporting process so this doesn't happen again type of thing.
"When athlete reveals cock to you, you will ___ ____ ____."

[Maddog]

I think it was just work together to develop a reporting process so this doesn't happen again type of thing.

Correct

Primo's not coming back to the Spurs. Even, if he does return to the NBA why would he sign with the Spurs? After what he went through?
I'm pretty certain the Spurs do not have interest in re-signing him and a fresh start elsewhere is almost always better.
Someone mentioned in another thread they could see him going to Europe for a while before back to the NBA.

[lefty]

Yes, as a jizz mopper

[JPB]

What fucking planet are you living on? They DID fire him. They have to pay him because of contractual obligations, but they WAIVED him. There’s no getting anything for him via trade.

On Earth where you can fire without pay employees who show their dicks around in your business and potantially hurt the image, brand and respectability of your franchise. (even if that's the spurs and no one gives a fuck)...

And I was talking about resigning him, genius, so he can be traded..

[exstatic]

The way I see it the Spurs messed up 2 times with Primo.

1. The Spurs drafted Primo which was a mistake but at least it was a gamble that could have turned out.

2. The spurs cut Primo too soon. There are no formal charges and dropping seems a bit overboard for simply flashing, they should have held on till more information was available. Can't you just cut him later if it becomes a huge law suite or were the Spurs under some kind of deadline to drop him? That seemed like a poor hastily made decision at the time and even more so now.

They were already being sued by the psychologist. Cutting him was damage control to mitigate further liability. There were three separate issues, the psychologist, summer league, and the hotel staff in Minnesota. They didn’t cut him for one issue. It was a pattern of behavior.

[scott]

30 years ago, Rod Strickland exposed himself in a hotel room and it was news, but the Spurs didn't cut him over it. Shows how times have changed (for the better) in the last 30 years.

[slick'81]

30 years ago, Rod Strickland exposed himself in a hotel room and it was news, but the Spurs didn't cut him over it. Shows how times have changed (for the better) in the last 30 years.


internet helps,tbh

[The Truth #6]

Since we’re contemplating prior scandals, I still want more info on the Walter Berry vs Alvin Robertson “knife fight”…

[MultiTroll]

All you efffers burying him at age 19. :td

And as if past and current NBA players haven't done 20Xs as bad ish.

Rape, murder (Derick Rose anyone?) etc etc.

[Uriel]

A lot of people in this thread are saying that Primo sucked at basketball and that he’s damaged goods that the team is not going to bring back. I don’t necessarily disagree.

However, I will remind these people that the front office (Brian Wright in particular) held Primo in very high regard and viewed him as a potential franchise player. If this is true, don’t you think that given all they’ve invested in him, they would like to at least explore the option of bringing him back in the future, assuming he clears investigations and successfully completes his mental rehabilitation?

[exstatic]

A lot of people in this thread are saying that Primo sucked at basketball and that he’s damaged goods that the team is not going to bring back. I don’t necessarily disagree.

However, I will remind these people that the front office (Brian Wright in particular) held Primo in very high regard and viewed him as a potential franchise player. If this is true, don’t you think that given all they’ve invested in him, they would like to at least explore the option of bringing him back in the future, assuming he clears investigations and successfully completes his mental rehabilitation?

No.

[KingKev]

A lot of people in this thread are saying that Primo sucked at basketball and that he’s damaged goods that the team is not going to bring back. I don’t necessarily disagree.

However, I will remind these people that the front office (Brian Wright in particular) held Primo in very high regard and viewed him as a potential franchise player. If this is true, don’t you think that given all they’ve invested in him, they would like to at least explore the option of bringing him back in the future, assuming he clears investigations and successfully completes his mental rehabilitation?

We are a top 5 team with Primo tbh

[Maddog]

Since we’re contemplating prior scandals, I still want more info on the Walter Berry vs Alvin Robertson “knife fight”…



Yet it wasn’t long into his NBA career when Robertson’s temper and destructive side began to surface. In the '86-87 preseason, he and teammate Walter Berry, the streetball player from New York, got into a heated argument that was part frightening and part comical. Frank Brickowski, the Spurs’ center, recalls returning to the Red Lion hotel to find Robertson and Berry squaring off.

"Walter starts talking s--t to Alvin, who told him to shut up," Brickowski said. "Walter kept talking, and Alvin put him on his back. Alvin let him up, then Walter pops Alvin in the eye. Everyone broke it up, but Alvin had a mouse under his eye. I thought it was over, and so I go take a shower.

"I hear a crash in the next room, hurry over there and Alvin and Walter are going at it again. It spills into the hallway, and somehow Walter grabs a butter knife. I think he got it from the housecleaning cart. He starts going after Alvin. He’s chasing him. I go, 'Walter, wait, that’s a butter knife. What the hell you gonna do with that?' Walter looks at it, tosses it aside and gets a fork."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2227019-alvin-robertson-the-fallen-and-forgotten-spur

As said before things have changed- for the better

[cd98]

30 years ago, Rod Strickland exposed himself in a hotel room and it was news, but the Spurs didn't cut him over it. Shows how times have changed (for the better) in the last 30 years.

Rod was a talented NBA player, but I think the Spurs were okay with letting him go precisely because of his conduct. He went on to be a good NBA player, but never an all-star. He could've been great on the Spurs with the talent that was there, but he screwed it up by late night bar fights and wild conduct off the court.

[The Truth #6]

The last hey day was probably the Tarkanian Experiment where we had three players who all had problems going through metal detectors because of too much bullet shrapnel: Lloyd Daniels, Sam Mack, and…David Wingate?

[Seventyniner]

I go, 'Walter, wait, that’s a butter knife. What the hell you gonna do with that?' Walter looks at it, tosses it aside and gets a fork."

:lol

[Seventyniner]

The last hey day was probably the Tarkanian Experiment where we had three players who all had problems going through metal detectors because of too much bullet shrapnel: Lloyd Daniels, Sam Mack, and…David Wingate?

iirc that was the source of the line "Tark has options off the bench, he can go leaded or unleaded." I forgot the exact wording and which commentator said it, though.

[offset formation]

We are a top 5 team with Primo tbh

Indubitably.

[slick'81]

We are a top 5 team with Primo tbh

in the west,tbh

[lefty]

[QUOTE=slick'81;10852184]in the west,/QUOTE]

of San Antonio

[Rocalcio]

a) gilbert arenas also had the history of being a multiple time all star and all-nba player. teams are only willing to put up with headaches if the on-court play justifies it

b) when arenas came back from his suspension, he was traded a couple of months into the season to the magic and amnestied less than a year after that. not the best example of a successful comeback story tbh :lol

I’m not talking about the fact it was a successful come back, I’m talking about the fact it was a come back after the guy did something very wrong too. But I’m sure you understood that.

[Rocalcio]

Lol comparing that scrub Primo to Gilbert Arenas. Primo wasn’t even better than guys like Nando de Colo. no one would be racing to sign him.

Well, if I follow all of you guys, you can forgive a player after he makes a major, and for Arenas a dangerous, thing, just because he’s good. If he’s not then he’s fucked ? That’s probably the case, but laughing at the fact that I compared him to Primo while you know morality says they should be treated equally makes you as weirdos.
And nobody knows if Primo would have been a scrub.

[spurraider21]

I’m not talking about the fact it was a successful come back, I’m talking about the fact it was a come back after the guy did something very wrong too. But I’m sure you understood that.
See part a

[ambchang]

Good players come back from anything even if there are significant amounts of risks:
- kobe (later somehow became a women’s rights icon :lol)
- pedo
- Strickland
- rodman
- arenas
- Alvin Robertson
- Jason Kidd
- bonzi wells
- Ruben Patterson

Bridges is likely going to come back as well.

Point is, if there is talent, some team will take the risk, every time.

The question is does primo have the talent to pique someone’s interest.

[exstatic]

Good players come back from anything even if there are significant amounts of risks:
- kobe (later somehow became a women’s rights icon :lol)
- pedo
- Strickland
- rodman
- arenas
- Alvin Robertson
- Jason Kidd
- bonzi wells
- Ruben Patterson

Bridges is likely going to come back as well.

Point is, if there is talent, some team will take the risk, every time.

The question is does primo have the talent to pique someone’s interest.

The question actually is (look at the thread title), will he return to the Spurs, and the answer is never. They already paid a settlement to the psychologist, admitting legal liability. If he were to return and do it again, it could financially ruin the franchise.

[KingKev]

It’s interesting other organizations aren’t even looking at him, thoigh not surprising. Just shows how wrong PATFO got this one.

[Ariel]

Good players come back from anything even if there are significant amounts of risks:
- kobe (later somehow became a women’s rights icon :lol)
- pedo
- Strickland
- rodman
- arenas
- Alvin Robertson
- Jason Kidd
- bonzi wells
- Ruben Patterson

Bridges is likely going to come back as well.

Point is, if there is talent, some team will take the risk, every time.

The question is does primo have the talent to pique someone’s interest.
Case dismissed.

[exstatic]

It’s interesting other organizations aren’t even looking at him, thoigh not surprising. Just shows how wrong PATFO got this one.

Allegedly, a bunch of organizations were interested when he was cut loose, but none after they did their due diligence.

[JPB]

Not saying it's OK to show your dick around, but let's not make Primo some major criminal. It's more a mental health than a criminal issue.

And would that psychologist had done her job, she would have told him to pull the monster back in the very first time and try to see what was obviously wrong here... And nobody would have heard about it.

[JPB]

Allegedly, a bunch of organizations were interested when he was cut loose, but none after they did their due diligence.

It's still fresh. no one was signing him right out of the bat considering the situation anyway, nor probalby this season.

[Proxy]

disturbing how some of y'all think whipping your dick out repeatedly isn't that big of a deal... and it's funny how stupid you have to be to think the spurs didn't nip this shit before more details came out.

and the organization would be seen as not giving a shit about women's safety in the workplace on top of it all, he's never coming back

[John B]

Yet it wasn’t long into his NBA career when Robertson’s temper and destructive side began to surface. In the '86-87 preseason, he and teammate Walter Berry, the streetball player from New York, got into a heated argument that was part frightening and part comical. Frank Brickowski, the Spurs’ center, recalls returning to the Red Lion hotel to find Robertson and Berry squaring off.

"Walter starts talking s--t to Alvin, who told him to shut up," Brickowski said. "Walter kept talking, and Alvin put him on his back. Alvin let him up, then Walter pops Alvin in the eye. Everyone broke it up, but Alvin had a mouse under his eye. I thought it was over, and so I go take a shower.

"I hear a crash in the next room, hurry over there and Alvin and Walter are going at it again. It spills into the hallway, and somehow Walter grabs a butter knife. I think he got it from the housecleaning cart. He starts going after Alvin. He’s chasing him. I go, 'Walter, wait, that’s a butter knife. What the hell you gonna do with that?' Walter looks at it, tosses it aside and gets a fork."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2227019-alvin-robertson-the-fallen-and-forgotten-spur

As said before things have changed- for the better

Man this is fucking hilarious shit :lmao

[The Truth #6]

If I had to guess, there’s a lot of different perspectives. I’m guessing from a female perspective when he does this there’s the fear of getting assaulted. From the perspective of the organization there’s the fear of million dollar lawsuits. For Primo, hard to say. I don’t think he necessarily meets criteria for any mental health issue. He could just be young, dumb, entitled, and whatever else.

[ambchang]

The question actually is (look at the thread title), will he return to the Spurs, and the answer is never. They already paid a settlement to the psychologist, admitting legal liability. If he were to return and do it again, it could financially ruin the franchise.

Agreed totally with the spurs. We shouldn’t get him back. Just way too dangerous. But for the other teams? If he’s good enough, some desperate team will do it. We had the jailblazers, the hornets don’t care now, some team can actually think it gives them street cred.

[spurraider21]

The question actually is (look at the thread title), will he return to the Spurs, and the answer is never. They already paid a settlement to the psychologist, admitting legal liability. If he were to return and do it again, it could financially ruin the franchise.
they did no such thing

[JPB]

disturbing how some of y'all think whipping your dick out repeatedly isn't that big of a deal... and it's funny how stupid you have to be to think the spurs didn't nip this shit before more details came out.

and the organization would be seen as not giving a shit about women's safety in the workplace on top of it all, he's never coming back

No one is saying this, or that he should be back (I dont think he should) and don't intentionnaly mischaracterize other people takes to make yourself more intellgent or virtuous... you should know calling other stupids will only make YOU look stupid...

It's just about just trying to put things in perspective, comparatively to what all is mentioned in this thread (gun threats, wife beating...). As far as we now, it's just that, a 19 yo. kid showing his D., and I don't feel if the "doc" really felt threatened or in danger, she would have let him do it 9 fucking times... How about that? How about not just telling Primo stop doing it and try to talk to him about it, since, you know, that's kind of her job as a 40 something shrink dealing with a 19 yo. kid... And she could always leave.

Let's not tag a 19 young guy as some kind of ultimate criminal who doesn't deserve any mercy and shoud be wrapped in shame and despise for the rest of his life because he showed his dick...Because yeah, it's obviously a mental thing...

[Rocalcio]

See part a
See my message above yours.

[Ariel]

This discussion is idiotic. If Primo returns, there's a very real chance it happens again (he admitted the conduct is related to childhood trauma, and that's not something you shrug off easily), the cost of it happening again grows exponentially (both in the PR hit for the franchise and damages), and all for the relatively low chance he becomes an average NBA player. Furthermore, anyone related to bringing back Primo would immediately lose their jobs and their careers, while no one would blame them if Primo signs elsewhere and ends up with a successful career (extremely unlikely IMO). So such a decision would be so idiotic, that if a given FO figure proposes it, should be fired on the spot for lack of judgment.

[spurraider21]

See my message above yours.
doesnt address it, really

arenas was a known commodity, an all nba/all star caliber player. primo was at best an unknown commodity who may or may not have become a good nba player one day. not a comparable situation when comparing whether a team would risk taking the PR hit

[Rocalcio]

doesnt address it, really

arenas was a known commodity, an all nba/all star caliber player. primo was at best an unknown commodity who may or may not have become a good nba player one day. not a comparable situation when comparing whether a team would risk taking the PR hit

I was saying that bringing back a player because he’s good and not bringing back another because he’s not as good is not moral. The player’s level shouldn’t have anything to do with that. If the guy is guilty he’s banned, no matter his talent. Still, I know it happens, but don’t tell me that’s normal.

[JPB]

I was saying that bringing back a player because he’s good and not bringing back another because he’s not as good is not moral. The player’s level shouldn’t have anything to do with that. If the guy is guilty he’s banned, no matter his talent. Still, I know it happens, but don’t tell me that’s normal.


you're right about that but moral stops where businees (and social peace) starts in the NBA like most environments

If some white journey man would have supported an antisemitic documentary on his Twitter before backing it down in press conference and mentioning the most classic antisemitic cliché (secrets jewish organisations running the world), he would have been forever ousted from the NBA the very next few hours (few minutes if that was racism towards black people who were curiously silent during this whole thing)...

But if you're a 47M dollar black superstar called Kyrie Irving... a couple weeks of suspension, a little chat with Silver (who didn't want the year long, bad publicity that a legal battle Irving ban would have necessarly implied) and you're still in...

I mean, think about that... Irving litterally supported a clearly antisemtic documentary before doubling down publicly and he's still in the NBA...
Tooks months long investigations to (rightfully) oust two owners for private act of racism towards black people... A little chat with the commisioner and Irving was back...

[spurraider21]

I was saying that bringing back a player because he’s good and not bringing back another because he’s not as good is not moral. The player’s level shouldn’t have anything to do with that. If the guy is guilty he’s banned, no matter his talent. Still, I know it happens, but don’t tell me that’s normal.
it happens all the time and therefore is normal. doesnt mean its moral.

the niners gave up on kaepernick in part because he was a declining player. meanwhile the packers will look past any dumb shit rodgers says or does because he's a hall of famer.

pro sports teams are basically trying to make money by being marketable. part of that is winning. part of that is maintaining a marketable image. some teams will pass on better talent for "culture". and some teams will look past a player's baggage because he's producing.

[scott]

Do you ever sit around and think of the the crazy exes you dated for a short period of time?

Me neither. Already forgot this guy was even on the team.

[Goob]

Would rather just play with 4 men every game than have him. No thanks.

[exstatic]

Not saying it's OK to show your dick around, but let's not make Primo some major criminal. It's more a mental health than a criminal issue.

And would that psychologist had done her job, she would have told him to pull the monster back in the very first time and try to see what was obviously wrong here... And nobody would have heard about it.

It’s a sex crime. Were he to be convicted or take a plea deal, he would have to register as a sex offender wherever he lives for the rest of his life.

[scott]

It’s a sex crime. Were he to be convicted or take a plea deal, he would have to register as a sex offender wherever he lives for the rest of his life.

Not that I think it changes what I think the Spurs should have done (I think they played this correctly), but I doubt Primo ever gets charged with anything. My guess is that BCSO is already done with their investigation and we'll never hear anything about this again.

[baseline bum]

definitely. and kawhi will return, and Luka will return, after, we get wemby. cia pop

I just want Paul George back

[exstatic]

Not that I think it changes what I think the Spurs should have done (I think they played this correctly), but I doubt Primo ever gets charged with anything. My guess is that BCSO is already done with their investigation and we'll never hear anything about this again.

Hence, the ‘If’.

[TekXX]

Crazy y'all think he's ever coming back to this league, dudes done and he's not good enough for any team to take a risk on.

[baseline bum]

Crazy y'all think he's ever coming back to this league, dudes done and he's not good enough for any team to take a risk on.

He'll be on someone's summer league team but won't be gifted a roster position like he was here.

[Dverde]

He'll be on someone's summer league team but won't be gifted a roster position like he was here.

I agree. The only team that won’t sign him is San Antonio for the PR nightmare it would create. He could go overseas for a year and come back.

[heyheymymy]

Flashing is also a gateway crime where the illness starts small, exposing yourself at first. But it can escalate to bigger crimes from there and Primo is young, and states this is a childhood affliction both making it more likely to continue being an issue. I hope he gets the help he needs.

Bring Primo back and what if he graduates from flashing women to decaptiating hookers in the trunk of his car or something. It's not limited to the flashing necessarily and it would be a huge risk to bring him back.

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Bottom line is that either Pop or Wright, or perhaps both, thought they had a young nephew in Primo. Thus the forcing him into the Point Forward position when most ppl here saw the folly in it. He could have *potentially* been successful as a wing or 3 and D. He never would have developed into what they reached for though and is likely why they probably felt relieved that they have been able to cut ties with him over his offcourt behavior. Someone above said it, but the last team that will pull him in would be the Spurs. They know they reached for him at this point and will never be what they thought they were sneakily drafting. But he ain't that guy.

[GAustex]

the front office screwed up royally picking the untalented pervert as a lotto pick
what a screw up and waste by PATFO

[Atl Spur]

#rentfree

[GAustex]

Pervert scrotum licker

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#rentfree

You should just take the L on this one and move on. I've been right on Sengun, Vassell, and most recently in my support for Romeo, and I'll be right on Ousmane Dieng being a stud, but I had to take the L on Samanic.

It's OK. And PATFO misused him too which likely screwed him over some too. But it's a bad look to keep up the militant stance that he was the right pick.

[donaldsonian]

I agree. The only team that won’t sign him is San Antonio for the PR nightmare it would create. He could go overseas for a year and come back.

Agree with this, although who knows how welcoming other leagues would be to him at the moment - he may just need to lay low for a while but no way he ends up back in SA.

[John B]

Agree with this, although who knows how welcoming other leagues would be to him at the moment - he may just need to lay low for a while but no way he ends up back in SA.

Another Scola thread if he pans out with another team. And it keeps haunting me how the PATFO was so high on him, drafting him against all pundits like the second coming of Kawhi. I don’t care about ST posters’ expertise of evaluating talent/skills vs PATFO. None of you have won 5 rings against prime Kobe/Shaq, LeBron and banana boat, and in a small market budget. So fuck off about Sengun or whoever Spurs could’ve picked. Primo was the big swing that PATFO decided to make. I didn’t support it then like everybody else, but at least I’ve realized the reason behind. It was unfortunate what happened after, but it had nothing to do with the pick. I’m not here to pass judgement. It’s wrong but I’m rooting for Primo to get his things together, as a human being. He is 19 and has a whole future ahead of him. It would be nice if he could still find himself in Spurs uniform, but in any team would be great too.

[KingKev]

#rentfree

Lol how mad are you that Noah Vonleh was cut before you could proclaim him a future star and another young core piece?!?

[Atl Spur]

Lol how mad are you that Noah Vonleh was cut before you could proclaim him a future star and another young core piece?!?

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[KingKev]

You miss me? You’re doing that one thing again……. Happy New Year��

I know calling a spade a spade my bad

[Atl Spur]

I know calling a spade a spade my bad

Oh……ok:) The board is a better place because of your insight. Thanks KK the spade whisperer

[Proxy]

No one is saying this, or that he should be back (I dont think he should) and don't intentionnaly mischaracterize other people takes to make yourself more intellgent or virtuous... you should know calling other stupids will only make YOU look stupid...

It's just about just trying to put things in perspective, comparatively to what all is mentioned in this thread (gun threats, wife beating...). As far as we now, it's just that, a 19 yo. kid showing his D., and I don't feel if the "doc" really felt threatened or in danger, she would have let him do it 9 fucking times... How about that? How about not just telling Primo stop doing it and try to talk to him about it, since, you know, that's kind of her job as a 40 something shrink dealing with a 19 yo. kid... And she could always leave.

Let's not tag a 19 young guy as some kind of ultimate criminal who doesn't deserve any mercy and shoud be wrapped in shame and despise for the rest of his life because he showed his dick...Because yeah, it's obviously a mental thing...

don't give a shit about anything in that first sentence you typed

none of the crimes that the other mentioned people did is cool either, and they're not comparable. they're all past an obvious threshold of tolerance. pulling his dick out multiple times to multiple people comes with consequences, it's not like he's getting put on death row, jfc

[JPB]

don't give a shit about anything in that first sentence you typed

none of the crimes that the other mentioned people did is cool either, and they're not comparable. they're all past an obvious threshold of tolerance. pulling his dick out multiple times to multiple people comes with consequences, it's not like he's getting put on death row, jfc

Not multiple people, just one. No one else has shown up...

And I have no doubt you don't give a shit about being one of those few "tough" insulting, keyboard warriors in the forum. Guys like you was litterally why the ignore feature I'm gonna use right now was created. Thanks for it.

[exstatic]

Not multiple people, just one. No one else has shown up...

And I have no doubt you don't give a shit about being one of those few "tough" insulting, keyboard warriors in the forum. Guys like you was litterally why the ignore feature I'm gonna use right now was created. Thanks for it.

He was waived because of subsequent issues in Summer league and the coup de grace, in the hotel in Minneapolis the week he was waived. The Spurs investigated it, found it credible, and waived him at the end of the week.

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He was waived because of subsequent issues in Summer league and the coup de grace, in the hotel in Minneapolis the week he was waived. The Spurs investigated it, found it credible, and waived him at the end of the week.

Were those "issues" also related to flashing? I know the Minnesota thing was allegedly flashing related.

[exstatic]

Were those "issues" also related to flashing? I know the Minnesota thing was allegedly flashing related.

Allegedly.

Flashing is never a one time thing. If you get away with it without consequence, you will continue.

[Uriel]

I know this ship has likely sailed, but getting Wembanyama does make me regret the Primo situation even more.

The front office was extremely high on Primo and even considered him to be a franchise player in the making. If he hadn’t done what he did and managed to live up to expectations, our starting lineup of the future would already be set:

PG - Primo
SG - Vassell
SF - Johnson
PF - Sochan
C - Wembanyama

[Chinook]

In a way it definitely sucks that we couldn't see if Wright's gamble would've paid off - strictly talking about on the court here. But I'm also glad the Spurs don't have to try to teach a bad SG how to be a good PG while also developing a real franchise player.

[Ariel]

We saw plenty, and he wasn't anything special. Him turning out the way he did was a blessing in disguise, if not for that the FO might have tried to push him 4+ years before calling the quits. Find another project to invest time and resources in, plenty better than him to be had in the 2nd round.

[Ariel]

The front office was extremely high on Primo and even considered him to be a franchise player in the making. If he hadn’t done what he did and managed to live up to expectations, our starting lineup of the future would already be set
In other news, if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle. Only regret is not picking Trey Murphy or Sengun, but I'll consider Wemby a decent consolation prize :lol

[spurraider21]

I know this ship has likely sailed, but getting Wembanyama does make me regret the Primo situation even more.

The front office was extremely high on Primo and even considered him to be a franchise player in the making. If he hadn’t done what he did and managed to live up to expectations, our starting lineup of the future would already be set:

PG - Primo
SG - Vassell
SF - Johnson
PF - Sochan
C - Wembanyama
womp womp

look, maybe with time primo would have become a good nba player. whether it was at PG/SG or a combo guard, who knows. maybe he still will be after he gets another shot. but he had no business being taken where he was, and in the limited time we saw him, i dont think he was above at any particular skill in the nba, whether it was agility, explosiveness, ball handling, passing, shooting, shot creation, penetration, finishing, man defense, or help defense

[Maddog]

I know this ship has likely sailed, but getting Wembanyama does make me regret the Primo situation even more.

The front office was extremely high on Primo and even considered him to be a franchise player in the making. If he hadn’t done what he did and managed to live up to expectations, our starting lineup of the future would already be set:

PG - Primo
SG - Vassell
SF - Johnson
PF - Sochan
C - Wembanyama

I really wonder what was meant by franchise player.
PATFO have always been realistic in managing expectations. Did they think he'd be a good spokesperson and face as opposed to a transformative player on the court.
A poor analogy, but like Sean, good player, but a great representative, or maybe more like Patty Mills
Then again they where really high on DJ, pre knee injury. There was a lot of skepticism

[taps]

I don’t think the GM wants to bring back a man who reportedly sexually harassed a woman 10 times, the GM was made aware of it, and he kept sending him back to his accuser over and over and over again.

In the national spotlight now, bring back the player, it brings back the story but what if it catches fire in the court of public opinion this time? Ccalls of “why didn’t they fire BW for enabling it? What else are they hiding?” Maybe public Pressure for email server scourings, the possibility of a Sean Payton email sitting in Pop or RC’s Inbox.
No way SSE shoots themselves in the foot like that again.

Can’t just settle out of court with the sports media’s eye of Sauron or expect Scott Van Pelt not to try to rip the Spurs to shreds once it is profitable to report on.

[Stump]

I don’t think the GM wants to bring back a man who reportedly sexually harassed a woman 10 times, the GM was made aware of it, and he kept sending him back to his accuser over and over and over again.

In the national spotlight now, bring back the player, it brings back the story but what if it catches fire in the court of public opinion this time? Ccalls of “why didn’t they fire BW for enabling it? What else are they hiding?” Maybe public Pressure for email server scourings, the possibility of a Sean Payton email sitting in Pop or RC’s Inbox.
No way SSE shoots themselves in the foot like that again.

Can’t just settle out of court with the sports media’s eye of Sauron or expect Scott Van Pelt not to try to rip the Spurs to shreds once it is profitable to report on.
Agreed. I think it was to the Spurs' benefit that they were basically irrelevant when the story broke. If it was to blow up a second time, it would be career-ending to certain front office people. Josh Primo isn't good enough to take that risk.

[RC_Drunkford]

man I'm glad we're done with the DeRozan/Forbes/Primo era. Those years were terrible

[GAustex]

Dude is a perv and not good
A huge mess and PATFO mistake

[Obstructed_View]

I had to take the L on Samanic.

Samanic clearly has NBA talent, but not chasing that turnover down doomed him. Nobody could reasonably have predicted that.

[Obstructed_View]

womp womp

look, maybe with time primo would have become a good nba player. whether it was at PG/SG or a combo guard, who knows. maybe he still will be after he gets another shot. but he had no business being taken where he was, and in the limited time we saw him, i dont think he was above at any particular skill in the nba, whether it was agility, explosiveness, ball handling, passing, shooting, shot creation, penetration, finishing, man defense, or help defense
What sucks is that Primo, had he developed into a good player, could have played in the backcourt with Sochan running point. It would have been a perfect fit.

[K...]

do spursfans also think the GRIZ should run Morant out of town? because that's what you act like. just cuz slick lawyer accuses the GM of botching the scenario doesn't mean the spurs were at fault. Also being a flasher isn't some permanent stigma. Let the dude try therapy and work himself back into society. The primo we knew had to work hard to get to NBA speed and being out a year kills his momentum.

He won't be good when he comes back. So he won't come back. Primo stopped being a thing when we got wessley and weeslly wont be a thing when we get our next guard prospect either in FA, next draft or in a trade.

DREAM BIGGER WE ARE IN WEMBY LAND NOW

[GAustex]

Morant can be a fool cause he is good.