Spurs couldn't put together a package for Rui Hachimura?

[kht]

We couldn't do Doug, Charlotte's protected 1st and a 2nd rounder for Rui? Washington is actually looking to compete so they don't mind another knockdown shooter/vet in Doug. The Charlotte (though protected) is better than any 2nd rounder they got.

Another day, another reminder of how badly the front office has botched these past few seasons... as Alperen Sengun goes off for another triple double tonight.

[BacktoBasics]

Segun has improved Houston how much?

Rui is interesting but also a mental health case.

[Chinook]

Who gives a fuck about Rui? Like I'm sure he's not horrible, but I wouldn't trade a single asset for him. Giving a first and high second? WTF?

[kht]

Who gives a fuck about Rui? Like I'm sure he's not horrible, but I wouldn't trade a single asset for him. Giving a first and high second? WTF?

Charlotte looks to be a bottom feeder for the next 2 years. But they've also dealt with their share of injuries.

[RC_Drunkford]

he's a bench player

[XDT76]

The question would be why do we need Rui

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

No reason to send 3 2nds for him only to pay him $15-16 mil per in the summer. Meh. He's actually not very good, even when his counting stats are ok once in a while.

[tbdog]

Charlotte looks to be a bottom feeder for the next 2 years. But they've also dealt with their share of injuries.

I actually think Hornets would make a run. The Bridges thing happened and Ball can't stay on the court. I think Ball will have a Tre Young run in the next year or 2.

[rankingtear]

We couldn't do Doug, Charlotte's protected 1st and a 2nd rounder for Rui? Washington is actually looking to compete so they don't mind another knockdown shooter/vet in Doug. The Charlotte (though protected) is better than any 2nd rounder they got.

Another day, another reminder of how badly the front office has botched these past few seasons... as Alperen Sengun goes off for another triple double tonight.

Give up 2 assets for a reclamation project 6 months from RFA? We may have missed on tank commander Sengun but we are not ORL/DET. That is how you end up with albatross contracts see Fultz and Bagley.

[exstatic]

I actually think Hornets would make a run. The Bridges thing happened and Ball can't stay on the court. I think Ball will have a Tre Young run in the next year or 2.

They have to. If they suck for two more years, LaMelo is gone.

The team that scouted, drafted, and developed Rui didn’t want to pay him. Process that statement for a moment. He’s not worth wasting assets OR a big chunk of cap room on.

[Mr. Body]

I actually think Hornets would make a run. The Bridges thing happened and Ball can't stay on the court. I think Ball will have a Tre Young run in the next year or 2.

The Ball brothers. Famous for making teams win.

[Mr. Body]

Meanwhile, Hachimura... Why tho?

[FutureMan]

Spurs don’t like paying for something they can get for free next year.

[poopbox]

Wasn't Rui who we were targeting in that years draft :lol

Most of us are in agreement the spurs need to tank...but we don't have any evidence that the spurs know how to tank outside of losing games...

They definitely don't seem to understand how to acquire young talent outside of the draft

Not saying that we should have traded for Rui but this is the perfect time to try and get some young guys from other teams on our teams that have a spotty history in the league cause its not like it matters much to us in the long run if they pan out or not, we are going to be very bad for AT LEAST 3 years

[poopbox]

They have to. If they suck for two more years, LaMelo is gone.

The team that scouted, drafted, and developed Rui didn’t want to pay him. Process that statement for a moment. He’s not worth wasting assets OR a big chunk of cap room on.

The same team that doesn't want to pay Rui decided to pay Beal the most money he could make while consistently not even being good enough to get them the 8th seed on a yearly basis :lol

[K...]

Wasn't Rui who we were targeting in that years draft :lol

Most of us are in agreement the spurs need to tank...but we don't have any evidence that the spurs know how to tank outside of losing games...

They definitely don't seem to understand how to acquire young talent outside of the draft

Not saying that we should have traded for Rui but this is the perfect time to try and get some young guys from other teams on our teams that have a spotty history in the league cause its not like it matters much to us in the long run if they pan out or not, we are going to be very bad for AT LEAST 3 years

We got roby and stanley, both lottery picks on the rebound.. we got basset. Were full of guys better than rui

[KingKev]

We got roby and stanley, both lottery picks on the rebound.. we got basset. Were full of guys better than rui

You can’t be serious.

I don’t think we should have been after Rui but pls don’t compare him to Stanley Johnson or Roby; both are fighting to stay in the NBA.

Also Roby was a second rounder.

[cd98]

I'm sure Rui was available for a while if the Spurs really wanted him.

[exstatic]

Wasn't Rui who we were targeting in that years draft :lol

Most of us are in agreement the spurs need to tank...but we don't have any evidence that the spurs know how to tank outside of losing games...

They definitely don't seem to understand how to acquire young talent outside of the draft

Not saying that we should have traded for Rui but this is the perfect time to try and get some young guys from other teams on our teams that have a spotty history in the league cause its not like it matters much to us in the long run if they pan out or not, we are going to be very bad for AT LEAST 3 years

The problem with 4th year players is that they want to get paid, and frankly, he hasn’t done anything to deserve it. He couldn’t reach and extension with the Wiz, and they probably offered $15-20M/yr. That’s pretty standard for a non-star draft pick.

[Drom John]

FiveThirtyEight Raptor WAR 1 minute minimum

#220 0.5 WAR Deni Avdija, Bogdon Bogdanovich, Jalen Duren, Markelle Fultz, Blake Griffin, Rui Hachimura, R.J. Hampton, Talen Horton-Tucker, Jalen Johnson, Stanley Johnson, Corey Kispert, Yuta Watanabe, Lindy Waters III, Justice Winslow

Hachimura, 750 minutes, -2.1 Offensive Raptor, 0.7 Defensive Raptor, -1.4 Total Raptor (So, a below average NBA player, but a half of a win better that as a top G-Leaguer.
Stanley Johnson, 282 minutes, 3.3 Offensive Raptor, -0.6 Defensive Raptor, 0.6 Total Raptor (So above average NBA player, but not much playing time.

[KingKev]

FiveThirtyEight Raptor WAR 1 minute minimum

#220 0.5 WAR Deni Avdija, Bogdon Bogdanovich, Jalen Duren, Markelle Fultz, Blake Griffin, Rui Hachimura, R.J. Hampton, Talen Horton-Tucker, Jalen Johnson, Stanley Johnson, Corey Kispert, Yuta Watanabe, Lindy Waters III, Justice Winslow

Hachimura, 750 minutes, -2.1 Offensive Raptor, 0.7 Defensive Raptor, -1.4 Total Raptor (So, a below average NBA player, but a half of a win better that as a top G-Leaguer.
Stanley Johnson, 282 minutes, 3.3 Offensive Raptor, -0.6 Defensive Raptor, 0.6 Total Raptor (So above average NBA player, but not much playing time.

Advanced stats aren’t be all end all.

RUI is a better offensive player than Johnson and Johnson is better defensive player than Rui.

[Mr. Body]

I don't know if people get this, but there is already a PF on the team, who is a rookie, that the team sees a big future for and who they are trying to develop.

[RC_Drunkford]

Advanced stats aren’t be all end all.

RUI is a better offensive player than Johnson and Johnson is better defensive player than Rui.

it's pretty tough to be a worse defender than Keldon

[cjw]

Who gives a fuck about Rui? Like I'm sure he's not horrible, but I wouldn't trade a single asset for him. Giving a first and high second? WTF?

This x 100, especially for a team with tons of cap space in the off-season. You can just go out and sign a guy as good if not better than Rui. The calculus is slightly different for a team with no space like the Lakers.

[scott]

We couldn't do Doug, Charlotte's protected 1st and a 2nd rounder for Rui? Washington is actually looking to compete so they don't mind another knockdown shooter/vet in Doug. The Charlotte (though protected) is better than any 2nd rounder they got.

Another day, another reminder of how badly the front office has botched these past few seasons... as Alperen Sengun goes off for another triple double tonight.

You don't get to suggest trading an FRP and a 2nd for Rui and then say our front office sucks, lol.

[lmbebo]

why give up assets for a piece we don't want

[Mr. Body]

why give up assets for a piece we don't want

But he was like drafted in the lottery five years ago!

[John B]

Rui wasn’t bad last night, but I still won’t give up assets for him. Spurs needs picks not more bodies.

[poopbox]

The problem with 4th year players is that they want to get paid, and frankly, he hasn’t done anything to deserve it. He couldn’t reach and extension with the Wiz, and they probably offered $15-20M/yr. That’s pretty standard for a non-star draft pick.

What he wants and what teams will give him are totally different things. I don't see him getting between 15 to 20 from anyone this off season

[Drom John]

it's pretty tough to be a worse defender than Keldon

Of course you didn't know we had two Johnsons currently on the roster. KingKev was posting about Stanley.

[JeffDuncan]

We couldn't do Doug, Charlotte's protected 1st and a 2nd rounder for Rui? …


You wanted to give a $13.75 M contract + an FRP + an SRP for a $6 M contract?

Hm.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

/lockthread


Reason: Lack of common sense from the OP