What about trading Keldon?

[wildbill2u]

Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?

List your cons and your pros. :wakeup

[RC_Drunkford]

will happen soon or later, but not right now

[Mr. Body]

He'd be murder on a team like Denver. But everyone's tapped out and the Spurs don't want to take on long-term salary.

[Seventyniner]

I'm not opposed to it, depending on the return of course. Nobody on the team is untouchable.

[KingKev]

He'd be murder on a team like Denver. But everyone's tapped out and the Spurs don't want to take on long-term salary.

Off the bench. That is his ceiling. High energy bench player who can play the 3/4 situationally and provide instant energy.

[lmbebo]

don't think you'd get value now based on his contract, extension kicks in next year?

Will be a Spur forever? I dunno. Could see the Spurs moving on from him for the right offer at some point. But I'd be highly surprised if he's traded right now.

[scott]

I think his value would definitely be higher after showing how he can be a contributor as a 3rd/4th option rather than as King Chucker on one of the league's worst teams.

[KingKev]

I think his value would definitely be higher after showing how he can be a contributor as a 3rd/4th option rather than as King Chucker on one of the league's worst teams.

His value as Keldon Tank Commander is more than his open market worth. He could go down tomorrow and JRich could serve his role easily if given 30+ mins and 20+ shots a game.

[mo7888]

Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?

List your cons and your pros. :wakeup

I'm not selling low on him....he has his limitations, but he was better last season when he wasn't expected to be the first option. Is he off limits? No, but I wouldn't sell him cheap and nobody with a high draft pick is buying until we get past the lottery.

[KingKev]

I'm not selling low on him....he has his limitations, but he was better last season when he wasn't expected to be the first option. Is he off limits? No, but I wouldn't sell him cheap and nobody with a high draft pick is buying until we get past the lottery.

He is going to be a solid trade chip in the future.

[mo7888]

He is going to be a solid trade chip in the future.

I agree..

[John B]

If Spurs don’t get competitive in the next two years, Keldon is shipping out. Already he doesn’t seem like the giddy guy we used to know. He’s a high octane guy, losing is affecting him deeply.

[jeebus]

Spurs need to blow it all up and tank.

[baseline bum]

Spurs need to blow it all up and tank.

Blow what up? All the talent on this team went to Atlanta last summer. What's the point of nuking rubble?

[gambit1990]

nuking rubble
:lol

[KingKev]

Blow what up? All the talent on this team went to Atlanta last summer. What's the point of nuking rubble?

Put some respect on Sochan’s name!!!

[spurraider21]

Blow what up? All the talent on this team went to Atlanta last summer. What's the point of nuking rubble?
:lol

[jeebus]

Blow what up? All the talent on this team went to Atlanta last summer. What's the point of nuking rubble?

Cuz it's funny, scroseph. Gotta give the upstairs folks something to bitch about imo. Spurs could wheel out 10 child coffins on the floor next season and someone will still start a thread asking "should we trade the coffin with the best ornamentation on it?"

[Mugen]

Blow what up? All the talent on this team went to Atlanta last summer. What's the point of nuking rubble?

:lol

[JPB]

Baseline Bum wins this thread.

[aissagholi7981]

Zero percent chance Keldon gets traded. You guys seem to be forgetting what team we are. This isn't the Lakers.

[paperboy77]

Definitely, if we can get something better. KJ has a buttload of flaws but the league thinks he's legit. I always say the Spurs should take these prospects they've gotten and "flip" them before a closer looks takes place.

[Chinook]

Vassell seems like the player who might be traded this summer given his potential discontent. Johnson is a big negative, and he's going to take a lot of protecting to make work as a starter on a contender. If the Spurs draft Scoot, then Henderson/Vassell/Johnson/Sochan and Poeltl or some other high-priced center could be interesting. I think with Wemby, it'd be hard. I think the idea of rostering Sochan as a PG is patently ridiculous. So you have Jones or some high-priced PG/two of Vassell, Johnson or Sochan/Wemby/Poeltl or high-priced center. That the future rotation wouldn't be set after the draft isn't a bad thing, but I think it's hard to see how Sochan and Johnson fit together long term if the team gets another forward. It feels like Keldon would be better off the bench, but I can't imagine the Spurs would be able to do that to him.

[XDT76]

If KJ is not getting back his 3pt, he will not worth much in trades.

[KingKev]

Vassell seems like the player who might be traded this summer given his potential discontent. Johnson is a big negative, and he's going to take a lot of protecting to make work as a starter on a contender. If the Spurs draft Scoot, then Henderson/Vassell/Johnson/Sochan and Poeltl or some other high-priced center could be interesting. I think with Wemby, it'd be hard. I think the idea of rostering Sochan as a PG is patently ridiculous. So you have Jones or some high-priced PG/two of Vassell, Johnson or Sochan/Wemby/Poeltl or high-priced center. That the future rotation wouldn't be set after the draft isn't a bad thing, but I think it's hard to see how Sochan and Johnson fit together long term if the team gets another forward. It feels like Keldon would be better off the bench, but I can't imagine the Spurs would be able to do that to him.

I can see multiple scenarios where Sochan pushes Keldon out of a starting role quite quickly. Together, Vassell and Keldon are only playable as high end bench players. Both of their upsides are not far from peak Josh Richardson. Yeah I said that Spurstalk. Let that ish burn.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

when we trade keldon we know the tank is over

[kht]

Keldon ain't really it as a #1. But Devin and him are a good 1/2. Need another solid #3 since we have no superstars and hope for another run at the beautiful game.

[poopbox]

Keldon traded anytime soon? No. Keldon traded eventually. I think so.

Most of the players on year 1 of a tanking team do stay on the same team all the way through the tank.

I'd say Sochan is a lock to stay and Devin is a lock to stay IF he wants to. Anybody else will probably get traded if the price is right.

[jermaine]

KJ is just a hassle guy. He's not even that good to me.

[mo7888]

Vassell seems like the player who might be traded this summer given his potential discontent. Johnson is a big negative, and he's going to take a lot of protecting to make work as a starter on a contender. If the Spurs draft Scoot, then Henderson/Vassell/Johnson/Sochan and Poeltl or some other high-priced center could be interesting. I think with Wemby, it'd be hard. I think the idea of rostering Sochan as a PG is patently ridiculous. So you have Jones or some high-priced PG/two of Vassell, Johnson or Sochan/Wemby/Poeltl or high-priced center. That the future rotation wouldn't be set after the draft isn't a bad thing, but I think it's hard to see how Sochan and Johnson fit together long term if the team gets another forward. It feels like Keldon would be better off the bench, but I can't imagine the Spurs would be able to do that to him.

What is the 'discontent' with Devin? I must've missed that...

[couchman]

No way we move him now when his value is at an ebb. Keldon is being forced to be the top guy this year and it is not ideal for his game. His efficiency should move back up when he can be a supporting player. He would be a great 3rd option on a good team.

[JeffDuncan]

What is the 'discontent' with Devin? I must've missed that...


That’s just another Spurstalk fabrication.

[K...]

That’s just another Spurstalk fabrication.

there was a tweet along the lines of "i just wanna play" that could be construed that he could play but pop is committed to tank, or that he can't play because of injury and is just feeling bad. Naturally some people have fully embraced the first interpretation.

[JeffDuncan]

there was a tweet along the lines of "i just wanna play" that could be construed that he could play but pop is committed to tank, or that he can't play because of injury and is just feeling bad. Naturally some people have fully embraced the first interpretation.


It’s been 4 weeks since his knee surgery. Of course he can’t play yet. Probably another 2 weeks, minimum. But yes, I know what you mean, and people forget things.

[spurraider21]

Keldon ain't really it as a #1. But Devin and him are a good 1/2. Need another solid #3 since we have no superstars and hope for another run at the beautiful game.
they are not a 1/2

[wildbill2u]

I'm not a trade expert, but I was wondering today if you could pair Kendall with Jacob and get something nice back? Or put KJ into any multi-player trade scenario??? Since we are tanking anyway, don't we have somebody else that could slide into that 3 slot without too much downside. Maybe Sochan or Vassell or the waterboy??? The way we have been drafting guards every draft, it seems to me that PATFO think Vassell's future has to be as SF.

[KingKev]

I'm not a trade expert, but I was wondering today if you could pair Kendall with Jacob and get something nice back? Or put KJ into any multi-player trade scenario??? Since we are tanking anyway, don't we have somebody else that could slide into that 3 slot without too much downside. Maybe Sochan or Vassell or the waterboy??? The way we have been drafting guards every draft, it seems to me that PATFO think Vassell's future has to be as SF.

We should consider it but I’m not sure any team is looking at Keldon and ready to pay more than a lightly protected FRP and a decent young asset. Teams flip talent like Keldon every deadline in a broader deal.

[JeffDuncan]

I'm not a trade expert, but I was wondering today if you could pair Kendall with Jacob and get something nice back? Or put KJ into any multi-player trade scenario??? Since we are tanking anyway, don't we have somebody else that could slide into that 3 slot without too much downside. Maybe Sochan or Vassell or the waterboy??? The way we have been drafting guards every draft, it seems to me that PATFO think Vassell's future has to be as SF.


Nearly half the team could sub at SF if results don’t matter. Stanley Johnson, Bates-Diop, Roby, Langford, Richardson, McDermott, and also Branham is shown on bbref as “small forward.” For warm bodies in the game, no problem at all.

[KingKev]

Nearly half the team could sub at SF if results don’t matter. Stanley Johnson, Bates-Diop, Roby, Langford, Richardson, McDermott, and also Branham is shown on bbref as “small forward.” For warm bodies in the game, no problem at all.

Couldn’t agree more. Highly replaceable. JRich might look like an AS if given Keldon’s role.

[scott]

We should consider it but I’m not sure any team is looking at Keldon and ready to pay more than a lightly protected FRP and a decent young asset. Teams flip talent like Keldon every deadline in a broader deal.

Lightly protected or heavily protected? Because I'm doing the deal if it's lightly protected plus a young asset.