Things got heated between JJ Redick and Kendrick Perkins on racial bias in MVP votes

[JohnnyMax]

JJ brings up race at 3:03, 9:45 and Perkins brings up race at 6:30


https://youtube.com/watch?v=znnpwCb5ED4

There's been 4 white MVP's since 1980...

Larry Bird - 3
Steve Nash - 2
Dirk - 1
Nikola Jokic - 2

Before 1980 there were 4.

Bob Pettit - 2
Bob Cousy - 1
Dave Cowens - 1
Bill Walton - 1

In the almost 70 years of the MVP award there have been 8 white winners... #NBA

https://twitter.com/HoAgendas/status/1633215775652696065

Until the 1979–80 season, the MVP was selected by a vote of NBA players. Since the 1980–81 season, the award is decided by a panel of sportswriters and broadcasters throughout the United States and Canada.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Most_Valuable_Player_Award

[Dirks_Finale]

Clearly Perk played the race card and accused the voters of being racist.

He's likely been programmed by MSNBC, and sadly, he's probably a disgusting racist himself.

06 is the only questionable MVP choice and that had nothing to do with race and everything to do with Nash and D'Antoni's go against the grain offense that was entertaining the hell out of everyone. I think Lebron was probably more deserving that year, but it's understandable that voters were mesmerized by the sun's offense.

[FrostKing]

I think NBA is the greatest collection of delusional athletes on Planet Earth today

[lefty]

I think NBA is the greatest collection of delusional athletes on Planet Earth today
Since its inception

[koriwhat]

No one claimed Perkins was smart or even somewhat of a critical thinker. The dude is dumb as rocks.

[TD 21]

Perkins is an archaic (:lmao argument consisting of counting stats without context in '23), biased clown, who thinks he can verbally bully people with his gruff demeanor/exterior.

He, along with many inner-city types, can't accept someone who's not exactly like them being at or near the top of the league.

He's been playing this game for a while and I'm glad Redick called him out on it instead of beating around the bush.

[Donald Sterling.]

They can't stand to see a chubby european dominate a majority black league, comprised of the best black athletes on earth. It fucks with their pride and self-esteem. Makes them sick to the core.

Imagine being 1st in the west, averaging a triple-double on ridiculous efficiency, then have some former scrub pull the race card on you on national tv :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

the fact that an out of shape guy, that eats bunch of burgers, drinks beer and plays video games most of the time, while other top players workout all the time, has been one of the top 5 players in the league, almost from the get go, must be really hard for some of these guys... Also, why the fuck would anyone even listen to a retard like Perkins?

[Mark Celibate]

:lol Perk using the gorilla/neanderthal style of debating; yelling loudly over and over, pausing, and then declaring victory/going 'ooga booga' mode when the guy he's arguing against can't come up with a response within half a second

also, :lol at using 36 year old Jeff Green as an example of "putting pieces" around Jokic :lmao

[lefty]

:lol Perk using the gorilla/neanderthal style of debating; yelling loudly over and over, pausing, and then declaring victory/going 'ooga booga' mode when the guy he's arguing against can't come up with a response within half a second

also, :lol at using 36 year old Jeff Green as an example of "putting pieces" around Jokic :lmao
:lol tbh

[lefty]

the fact that an out of shape guy, that eats bunch of burgers, drinks beer and plays video games most of the time, while other top players workout all the time, has been one of the top 5 players in the league, almost from the get go, must be really hard for some of these guys... Also, why the fuck would anyone even listen to a retard like Perkins?
Jokic isn’t the chubby dude he used to ne, he has lost a lot of weight

Or were hou referring to Luka Donutcic?

[Chief Brody]

:lol Perk using the gorilla/neanderthal style of debating; yelling loudly over and over, pausing, and then declaring victory/going 'ooga booga' mode when the guy he's arguing against can't come up with a response within half a second

also, :lol at using 36 year old Jeff Green as an example of "putting pieces" around Jokic :lmao
You could see his chimp brain malfunction in real time when the race card didn’t work and he was forced to bring an actual evidenced-based take. Those eyes were darting in all directions

[KobesAchilles]

I could’ve sworn that Dirk was a top 10 scorer in 07. Also yeah Perk can be really dumb on his takes. The amount of hate that foreign players get among US players is insane. Harden was calling out Giannis too a couple of years ago. The jealousy these guys have is insane.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yep, give it to Jokic

[DeadlyDynasty]

Perk redeemed himself when he called out Mr. Glass for ducking this matchup, so props for that. Giving it to Embiid would be celebrating the reason why the game has gone to shit. It’s an insanely talented generation, far greater than any before it…but they simply are too coddled and that is why the product blows.

I’m not pining for the days of Pistons thugball and 90s slogs, but I do miss players actually playing every night and heated rivalries. No fan is going to invest much time in a sport where there is 80% roster turnover every 2 years and stars play maybe 60-65% of the games. Fix that, and the NBA will become exciting again

[lefty]

Perk redeemed himself when he called out Mr. Glass for ducking this matchup, so props for that. Giving it to Embiid would be celebrating the reason why the game has gone to shit. It’s an insanely talented generation, far greater than any before it…but they simply are too coddled and that is why the product blows.

I’m not pining for the days of Pistons thugball and 90s slogs, but I do miss players actually playing every night and heated rivalries. No fan is going to invest much time in a sport where there is 80% roster turnover every 2 years and stars play maybe 60-65% of the games. Fix that, and the NBA will become exciting again

yeah talent wise the league today is way better but rivalries are lacking for sure

To he fair, what’s the point of 82 game seasons if we know who the favourites are after a few weeks?
Some players in the 90s said it was too long

What should the league do?
Shorten the season - not gonna hapoen

Or force players to play a minimum number of games or they won’t be in all nba teams

[DeadlyDynasty]

yeah talent wise the league today is way better but rivalries are lacking for sure

To he fair, what’s the point of 82 game seasons if we know who the favourites are after a few weeks?
Some players in the 99s said it was too long

What should the league do?
Shorten the season - not gonna hapoen

Or force players to play a minimum number of games or they won’t be in all nba teams
I’m all for shortening the season by 17-20 games with more or less the same season timeline to ensure adequate rest days between games. Good luck getting Commissioner Goldblatt and the owners to agree to that, though.

Quickest fix is eliminating guaranteed contracts. No play, no pay

[lefty]

Quickest fix is eliminating guaranteed contracts. No play, no pay
It should be the way tbh, unless they are really injured and it's validated by a NBA doc or something; there should be a NBA doc in every city :lol

[TDfan2007]

yeah talent wise the league today is way better but rivalries are lacking for sure

To he fair, what’s the point of 82 game seasons if we know who the favourites are after a few weeks?
Some players in the 90s said it was too long

What should the league do?
Shorten the season - not gonna hapoen

Or force players to play a minimum number of games or they won’t be in all nba teams

I would say minimum games for all nba and regular season awards would be a great step. It’s already something that’s kind of done behind the scenes, but it would be nice to make it official.

[lefty]

I would say minimum games for all nba and regular season awards would be a great step. It’s already something that’s kind of done behind the scenes, but it would be nice to make it official.

OH SHIT ITS HAPPENING

NBA and NBPA have agreed to a minimum number of games played – 65 games – for players to be eligible to win major individual league awards such as MVP in the new CBA, sources tell
@TheAthletic

@Stadium
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2:44 AM · Apr 1, 2023
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[horseshue]

OH SHIT ITS HAPPENING

NBA and NBPA have agreed to a minimum number of games played – 65 games – for players to be eligible to win major individual league awards such as MVP in the new CBA, sources tell
@TheAthletic

@Stadium
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2:44 AM · Apr 1, 2023
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11.1M
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Previous season joel embeed played 68 games. It was the first time ever, he played more than 65 games. In comparison, the least amount of games jokic has ever played in a single regular season is 72.

[lefty]

Previous season joel embeed played 68 games. It was the first time ever, he played more than 65 games. In comparison, the least amount of games jokic has ever played in a single regular season is 72.

Jokic really loves playing basketball tbh

[FrostKing]

Jokic really loves playing basketball tbh
It's just a smokescreen to avoid the Girlfriend

[lefty]

It's just a smokescreen to avoid the Girlfriend

lol

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Previous season joel embeed played 68 games. It was the first time ever, he played more than 65 games. In comparison, the least amount of games jokic has ever played in a single regular season is 72.

kiwi has played 65 games in 4 of 11 seasons :nerd

[Tyronn Lue]

I don't really care who sits whom and when. Players and teams I want to watch aren't doing it.

[JohnnyMax]

JJ Reddikk's MVP vote


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwgmzER6A8

[scanry]

Clearly Perk played the race card and accused the voters of being racist.

He's likely been programmed by MSNBC, and sadly, he's probably a disgusting racist himself.

06 is the only questionable MVP choice and that had nothing to do with race and everything to do with Nash and D'Antoni's go against the grain offense that was entertaining the hell out of everyone. I think Lebron was probably more deserving that year, but it's understandable that voters were mesmerized by the sun's offense.

IMO Dirk should've been the MVP that year. He outlasted the best team in 7 games and easily sent Nash in 6.

[lefty]

IMO Dirk should've been the MVP that year. He outlasted the best team in 7 games and easily sent Nash in 6.
tbf, Amare was injured that year

[Tyronn Lue]

IMO Dirk should've been the MVP that year. He outlasted the best team in 7 games and easily sent Nash in 6.
Not in the regular season.

[Seventyniner]

Not in the regular season.

Yeah he saved his regular season hardware for the year he got bounced in round 1 by the 8 seed.

[Tyronn Lue]

Yeah he saved his regular season hardware for the year he got bounced in round 1 by the 8 seed.
You'd know about that with Memphis.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Perkins debates similar to how he played basketball....not well.

[Millennial_Messiah]

You'd know about that with Memphis.

*

The Big 3 were all playing with substantial injuries that series, and Manu was playing literally with a broken arm.

Comparable to the 2012 Bulls who lost to the eight seeded Sixers after Derrick Rose tore his ACL near the end of the first game (win).

The 2007 Mavs are still the only one-seed team who lost a best-of-seven playoff series to an eight-seed team while completely healthy. They lost because they couldn't figure out how to beat the team that had beaten them the past 6 games in the regular season because they were the only team that took Avery Johnson out of his comfort zone with high octane pace and defensive length and athleticism and physicality that other teams (including the Suns) didn't quite have. It's a shit stain Cuban and Cuban alone must own and live with.

[Tyronn Lue]

*

The Big 3 were all playing with substantial injuries that series, and Manu was playing literally with a broken arm.

Comparable to the 2012 Bulls who lost to the eight seeded Sixers after Derrick Rose tore his ACL near the end of the first game (win).

The 2007 Mavs are still the only one-seed team who lost a best-of-seven playoff series to an eight-seed team while completely healthy. They lost because they couldn't figure out how to beat the team that had beaten them the past 6 games in the regular season because they were the only team that took Avery Johnson out of his comfort zone with high octane pace and defensive length and athleticism and physicality that other teams (including the Suns) didn't quite have. It's a shit stain Cuban and Cuban alone must own and live with.

excuses

[Millennial_Messiah]

excuses

Legitimate reasons. :toast