3 Children Dead in School Shooting in Tennessee

[spurraider21]

Seven dead: three children killed plus the shooter dead at The Covenant School on Monday (https://www.newschannel5.com/news/police-responding-to-active-aggressor-situation-at-covenant-school)

(https://www.newschannel5.com/news/police-responding-to-active-aggressor-situation-at-covenant-school)

[spurraider21]

shall not be infringed, bro

[Monostradamus]

If girls would stop talking about their periods, then maybe this wouldn’t happen anymore tbh

[Will Hunting]

The woke left is responsible for this shooting

[Ef-man]

Seven dead: three children killed plus the shooter dead at The Covenant School on Monday (https://www.newschannel5.com/news/police-responding-to-active-aggressor-situation-at-covenant-school)

(https://www.newschannel5.com/news/police-responding-to-active-aggressor-situation-at-covenant-school)




Kids should have been packing in building without metal detectors, bullet proof windows, prison like fencing, nor guarded entry/exit; instead, they are dead because their 2A rights to carry in school have been trampled!

[DarrinS]

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[Monostradamus]

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This is definitely why we need to keep tabs on their menstrual cycles. Preventable tragedy, smdh

[Monostradamus]

Still waiting for confirmation that the shooter is a trans drag queen groomer, I’m sure that update is imminent. Republicans knew this was the biggest threat to our children, and now we’re paying the consequences for focusing so much on guns.

[Tyronn Lue]

"Biden president" etc

[Ef-man]

Still waiting for confirmation that the shooter is a black, lib, Soros affiliated, Kamala Harris relative, trans drag queen groomer, I’m sure that update is imminent. Republicans knew this was the biggest threat to our children, and now we’re paying the consequences for focusing so much on guns.




fify

[Spurs Homer]

Keep voting republican and make sure every one of these shootings is like a -2nd amendment test!

each shooting will only reinforce our strong attachment to our gunz!

keep voting red, fuck these kids, muh gunz are more important!

[Adam Lambert]

3 children dead...

Darrin's first instinct: "I need to make sure people aren't blaming a man for this."

[DeadlyDynasty]

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/1640410270014263299

[spurraider21]

^bruhhhhh

[boutons_deux]

The shooter was female

[lefty]

The woke left is responsible for this shooting
:lol

[lefty]

Not sure if true but I saw a tweet saying she is a "white transgender christian"

Is that even a thing? :lol

[Winehole23]

Seven dead: three children killed plus the shooter dead at The Covenant School on Monday (https://www.newschannel5.com/news/police-responding-to-active-aggressor-situation-at-covenant-school)

(https://www.newschannel5.com/news/police-responding-to-active-aggressor-situation-at-covenant-school)


the lack of a sound Christian foundation is clearly the problem here

[TSA]

The woke left is responsible for this shooting

https://twitter.com/KMcAmerica40/status/1640441576554987520

If this is her...sorry he/him, you might be correct.

[DarrinS]

3 children dead...

Darrin's first instinct: "I need to make sure people aren't blaming a man for this."


The shooter was female


Lol

[lefty]

Graphic Designer



I knew it

[SnakeBoy]

If the shooter is a tranny the thread will die quickly

[spurraider21]

3 students murdered in school

the real question is the shooter's gender indentity. this is clearly the common theme in all these school shootings

[TSA]

3 students murdered in school

the real question is the shooter's gender indentity. this is clearly the common theme in all these school shootings

Common first questions after a shooting are who did it, what race, what sex. Will is the one that brought ideology into the thread don't get butthurt the conversation veered into gender indentity.

[ChumpDumper]

If the shooter is a tranny the thread will die quickly

Why would you stop posting in it?

[Ef-man]

Nothing can be done except protect the 2A.

Thoughts and prayers but being a Christian school, kids should have had greater faith in Jesus protecting them against bullets.

[spurraider21]

Common first questions after a shooting are who did it, what race, what sex. Will is the one that brought ideology into the thread don't get butthurt the conversation veered into gender indentity.
Maybe it was Laguna Beach antifa

[ElNono]

Common first questions after a shooting are who did it, what race, what sex. Will is the one that brought ideology into the thread don't get butthurt the conversation veered into gender indentity.

You forgot "political affiliation"

[DarrinS]

3 students murdered in school

the real question is the shooter's gender indentity. this is clearly the common theme in all these school shootings


It was shocking to me that a woman did this. Only reason I posted it.

[TSA]

You forgot "political affiliation"

That isn't a first question here it's always just assumed right winger.

[Adam Lambert]

Common first questions after a shooting are who did it, what race, what sex. Will is the one that brought ideology into the thread don't get butthurt the conversation veered into gender indentity.

He was making fun of you and you're doing exactly what he was mocking. Good job! :tu

[ElNono]

That isn't a first question here it's always just assumed right winger.

Generally the first post of certain individuals here is some sort of reddit/tweet about alleged memberships to Antifa, etc.

[TSA]

He was making fun of you and you're doing exactly what he was mocking. Good job! :tu

His attempted mocking fell flat. :tu

[TSA]

Generally the first post of certain individuals here is some sort of reddit/tweet about alleged memberships to Antifa, etc.

Generally would be the wrong term considering it only happened once.

[Trainwreck2100]

Look this shooter was clearly born with a vagina, how else can you explain such a piss poor body count.

[Monostradamus]

https://twitter.com/KMcAmerica40/status/1640441576554987520

If this is her...sorry he/him, you might be correct.
Another white male shooter, smh

[ElNono]

Generally would be the wrong term considering it only happened once.

I wasn't referring to you in particular.

[TSA]

Look this shooter was clearly born with a vagina, how else can you explain such a piss poor body count.

Looks like the shooter was born with a dick.

[TSA]

I wasn't referring to you in particular.

You were no need to lie.

[TSA]

Another white male shooter, smh

It's a female, don't believe me, ask spurraider.

[Trainwreck2100]

Looks like the shooter was born with a dick.
He him means they identify as he him. Which is why I said they were born with a vagina. It's hard to tell from that crap picture

[TSA]

He him means they identify as he him. Which is why I said they were born with a vagina. It's hard to tell from that crap picture

Shooter was born with a dick...or just born an ugly female. Really not sure anymore.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/MNPDNashville/status/1640457155538219013

geez

[Trainwreck2100]

Shooter was born with a dick...or just born an ugly female. Really not sure anymore.

Exactly, can't rush to judgements about assigned birth gender but you can rush to judgement, that they are a shit shot

[Winehole23]

TSA getting to the bottom of it, really important stuff.

[ElNono]

You were no need to lie.

It wasn't a lie either. Easily demonstrable, tbh

[Leetonidas]

when will the righties learn the age/race/gender/creed/etc of the shooter is irrelevant. the issue remains the same - easy access to high powered firearms.

As always, "No Way to Prevent This From Happening," says only country where this routinely happens. smh

[ElNono]

when will the righties learn the age/race/gender/creed/etc of the shooter is irrelevant. the issue remains the same - easy access to high powered firearms.

As always, "No Way to Prevent This From Happening," says only country where this routinely happens. smh

Nothing can be done. Shrug. Tots and Pears...

[TSA]

when will the righties learn the age/race/gender/creed/etc of the shooter is irrelevant. the issue remains the same - easy access to high powered firearms.

As always, "No Way to Prevent This From Happening," says only country where this routinely happens. smh

First two people to bring that up in this thread were lefties :lol

[Adam Lambert]

when will the righties learn the age/race/gender/creed/etc of the shooter is irrelevant. the issue remains the same - easy access to high powered firearms.

As always, "No Way to Prevent This From Happening," says only country where this routinely happens. smh

Conservatives get triggered as fuck when you show pictures of a mass shooter posing near a Confederate flag and giving the Nazi salute after shooting a church full of black people, so their rebuttal is to imply ideology as a factor by eagerly pointing out the race/sex of any non-white, non-male shooter.

[Winehole23]

First two people to bring that up in this thread were lefties :lolthe proleptic irony was spot on, you're living proof.

[TSA]

the proleptic irony was spot on, you're living proof.

Each of their comments were sarcasm that backfired immediately. WTF are you talking about?

[ChumpDumper]

Did the shooter have access to the Crystal Level, TSA?

[TSA]

Conservatives get triggered as fuck when you show pictures of a mass shooter posing near a Confederate flag and giving the Nazi salute after shooting a church full of black people, so their rebuttal is to imply ideology as a factor by eagerly pointing out the race/sex of any non-white, non-male shooter.

Everyone of you lefties rushed in here hoping to see the picture you described to eagerly point out the race/sex/ideology.

[Ef-man]

Conservatives get triggered as fuck when you show pictures of a mass shooter posing near a Confederate flag and giving the Nazi salute after shooting a church full of black people, so their rebuttal is to imply ideology as a factor by eagerly pointing out the race/sex of any non-white, non-male shooter.

Yup, you mock them and it goes over their head, par for idiots.

[Winehole23]

Kids can handle active shooter drills, but their tender minds will be utterly destroyed by teaching them about civil rights.

[Adam Lambert]

Everyone of you lefties rushed in here hoping to see the picture you described to eagerly point out the race/sex/ideology.

Projecting as usual.

[TSA]

Projecting as usual.

Hit the nail on the head as usual.

[Monostradamus]

Each of their comments were sarcasm that backfired immediately. WTF are you talking about?
How did it backfire? Do you think stopping girls from talking about their periods in school had something to do with this shooting?

[Monostradamus]

Everyone of you lefties rushed in here hoping to see the picture you described to eagerly point out the race/sex/ideology.
Wow, I assumed you were being purposely obtuse to troll, but maybe you’re just actually retarded :lol

[Leetonidas]

First two people to bring that up in this thread were lefties :lol

it doesnt take a genius to understand why :rolleyes hint, it's because of what i'm alluding to. perhaps logic fails those who think pedophilic cabals are being ran out of pizza parlors, though

[TSA]

it doesnt take a genius to understand why :rolleyes hint, it's because of what i'm alluding to. perhaps logic fails those who think pedophilic cabals are being ran out of pizza parlors, though

It was quite obvious why they brought it up but it didn’t work out this time.

[DarrinS]

So, the police have been misgendering the shooter?

[spurraider21]

So, the police have been misgendering the shooter?
darrin focusing on anything but the dead kids or how to mitigate the chances of this happening going forward

[Monostradamus]

So, the police have been misgendering the shooter?
We all know you’ve been fistpumping about it. Have another Bud Heavy and toast to more dead kids.

[DarrinS]

The woke left is responsible for this shooting

Oops

[TSA]

darrin focusing on anything but the dead kids or how to mitigate the chances of this happening going forward

Where’s your contribution on either of the above?

[Blake]

Not sure if true but I saw a tweet saying she is a "white transgender christian"

Is that even a thing? :lol

Lady MAGA

[ChumpDumper]

OopsDo you think the woke left is responsible for this shooting, Darrin?

Yes or no.

[Adam Lambert]

darrin focusing on anything but the dead kids or how to mitigate the chances of this happening going forward

"Conservatives have one joke."

[baseline bum]

Sad that Audrey was having a bad day.

[DarrinS]

darrin focusing on anything but the dead kids or how to mitigate the chances of this happening going forward

I honestly wasn't expecting the trans angle.

Just ironic given the snarky shitposting early in this thread.

[DarrinS]

Sad that Aiden was having a bad day.

FIFY

[spurraider21]

Where’s your contribution on either of the above?
arite lemme look up one of the other dozens of threads about kids being killed at school and point out the different gun control measures ive advocated for

[TSA]

arite lemme look up one of the other dozens of threads about kids being killed at school and point out the different gun control measures ive advocated for

Exactly.

You know how these threads go then. Each side says not mine and then when it’s revealed who’s side it’s on there is score boarding and finger pointing. It’s sad but it is what it is here. Will got the ball rolling early and ended stepping in his own shit.

[spurraider21]

Exactly.

You know how these threads go then. Each side says not mine and then when it’s revealed who’s side it’s on there is score boarding and finger pointing. It’s sad but it is what it is here. Will got the ball rolling early and ended stepping in his own shit.
your side is the one ok with these events happening over and over again and votes for people who ensure that these events happen basically as often as possible

[Monostradamus]

Exactly.

You know how these threads go then. Each side says not mine and then when it’s revealed who’s side it’s on there is score boarding and finger pointing. It’s sad but it is what it is here. Will got the ball rolling early and ended stepping in his own shit.
White trans goes on your ledger, fam.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Caitlyn_Jenner_Web_Summit_2017_%28cropped%29.jpg

[TSA]

your side is the one ok with these events happening over and over again and votes for people who ensure that these events happen basically as often as possible

I don’t think you could get anymore hyperbolic than that. No one is okay with these besides the shooters and potential shooters.

[TSA]

White trans goes on your ledger, fam.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Caitlyn_Jenner_Web_Summit_2017_%28cropped%29.jpg

Bruce was an amazing olympian :bobo

[spurraider21]

I don’t think you could get anymore hyperbolic than that. No one is okay with these besides the shooters and potential shooters.
if you werent, youd actually want something to be done about it

instead its all about me. i want to keep my guns. if some kids have to die along the way, then thats just the price of freedom. nothing can be done. shall not be infringed. tots and pears

[Adam Lambert]

I honestly wasn't expecting the trans angle.

Just ironic given the snarky shitposting early in this thread.

Where's the irony?

More evidence you guys still don't have a definition for "woke".

[DarrinS]

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So, domestic terrorism?

[Winehole23]

More than cancer, more than automobile accidents.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

[Winehole23]

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So, domestic terrorism?walk us through your hypothesis, counselor

[TSA]

if you werent, youd actually want something to be done about it

instead its all about me. i want to keep my guns. if some kids have to die along the way, then thats just the price of freedom. nothing can be done. shall not be infringed. tots and pears

I don’t want dead kids. You and I probably want the same restrictions. You’ll find my comments in the dozens of other threads.

[Extra Stout]

This one probably lights the fuse. The Christian nationalists will carry out reprisal killings. And it escalates from there.

[spurraider21]

and I probably want the same restrictions.

- heavily incentivized buyback programs, state or national level. cash for clunkers as something of a model for it. biggest issue is the amount of guns in circulation. cut back at that. government preferably scraps them
- buying them back is great, but keeping the number in circulation low is good too. manufacturing/import limits.
- make it harder to buy them. require licensing for them which include regular (annual, every two years, i dno) psychological screening and/or needing to renew said license. license would require training for that type of weapon. handgun, rifle, etc. just like we have classes of drivers licenses for different vehicles
- ban private sales altogether with the exception of antique/legacy weapons. if you want to sell a gun, it goes to a state/federal buyback. like i said, buybacks should be heavily incentivized, possibly even at or above market value. probably have a check for people gaming the system by limiting amount of guns a person can purchase in a given period of time
- more comprehensive background checks. mandatory waiting periods.
- capacity limits on all sorts of weapons
- assault weapons ban from the 90s was generally effective as well


a few of the top of my head that i've mentioned on this site at one time or another. people more knowledgeable than me would do a better job putting it into actual legislative language
you agree with these?

the reason im skeptical is that you dont think access to guns is even among the 3 biggest reasons for these shootings


Here’s how I’ve got the causes in the spike ranked

1. untreated mental health
2. social media
3. mainstream media
4. access to guns

[Winehole23]

I don’t want dead kids. You and I probably want the same restrictions. You’ll find my comments in the dozens of other threads.Humor us, TSA.

Which restrictions?

[Extra Stout]

I mean, MAGA is cool with murdering hundreds of thousands in the Ukraine war because Putin is the Papa Bear of anti-LGBTQ authoritarianism, the Great Anti-Woke Hope. Why would you think they’d object to couple hundred dead kids here over the course of a year?

You don’t think they’d relish going all Pol Pot on white liberals, LGBTQ, etc.?

The kids are a rounding error.

[baseline bum]

At least the cops weren't the same pussy ass faggots in Tennessee that they are in Texas.

[Blake]

I mean, MAGA is cool with murdering hundreds of thousands in the Ukraine war because Putin is the Papa Bear of anti-LGBTQ authoritarianism, the Great Anti-Woke Hope. Why would you think they’d object to couple hundred dead kids here over the course of a year?

You don’t think they’d relish going all Pol Pot on white liberals, LGBTQ, etc.?

The kids are a rounding error.

Ryan Woods, the ultra-conservative Trump lover who attends rallies and conventions as drag queen Lady MAGA and was recently elected as president of the Utah Log Cabin Republicans, was fired from Delta Airlines for his social media posts around the time of the U.S. Capitol insurrection. In his posts leading up to January 6, Woods posted photos in drag holding guns and signs saying “LGBT for Trump.”

https://www.qsaltlake.com/news/2021/03/25/lady-maga-fired-from-job-for-social-media-posts/

https://www.qsaltlake.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/LadyMaga-780x461.jpg

[Blake]

Humor us, TSA.

Which restrictions?

He's already posted them. No need for him to ever comment again.

[TSA]

The woke left is responsible for this shooting

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1640467467926482944

[TSA]

He's already posted them. No need for him to ever comment again.

Lol. You wouldn’t see my comment anyways so why even comment?

[TSA]

you agree with these?

the reason im skeptical is that you dont think access to guns is even among the 3 biggest reasons for these shootings



Licensing, screening, and background checks we are in agreement. But I don’t think these put a dent in school shootings. These are a societal problem, more so a generational problem. None of your ideas even touch on the root of the problem. I don’t have the answer on what has caused the spike in school shootings but I do not believe it’s access to guns. The access to guns hasn’t changed, the mentality of these fucked up kids has changed.

[Joseph Kony]

This is definitely a right wing psyop tbh. Nothing but crisis actors

[ChumpDumper]

Assault style weapons are more available and more heavily advertised/publicized than before Columbine.

But let's ignore that. It's definitely the wokeness.

[Ef-man]

This is definitely a right wing psyop tbh. Nothing but crisis actors

Damn, you are right!

I was wondering why they conveniently did not show the faces of all the "dead kids."

It is the Sandy Hook/Waco gambit to take away our 2A rights.

[Trainwreck2100]

At least the cops weren't the same pussy ass faggots in Tennessee that they are in Texas.

nah, the shooter didnt even make it into a classroom, just a shit shooter

[baseline bum]

nah, the shooter didnt even make it into a classroom, just a shit shooter

Still engaged the suspect armed with a semiauto rifle unlike the faggots in Uvalde who just stood around scared of the loser with the AR.

[SnakeBoy]

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[baseline bum]

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So the mental illness angle for mass shooters is dead now?

[Winehole23]

Still engaged the suspect armed with a semiauto rifle unlike the faggots in Uvalde who just stood around scared of the loser with the AR.

They were aching to blame that one on trans too. The Samantha Hyde meme is roughly 9 years old.

[SnakeBoy]

So the mental illness angle for mass shooters is dead now?

It's trans terrorism atm

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[baseline bum]

It's trans terrorism atm

1640483509780328450

Colorado Springs shooter doesn't look too non-binary tbh.

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230113143157-anderson-aldrich-court-file.jpg?c=16x9&q=h_720,w_1280,c_fill/f_webp

Seems more like one of y'all after he was caught calling people ######s and beaners on a flight. Didn't bother to look up the rest after your first guy didn't check out.

[spurraider21]

Licensing, screening, and background checks we are in agreement. But I don’t think these put a dent in school shootings. These are a societal problem, more so a generational problem. None of your ideas even touch on the root of the problem. I don’t have the answer on what has caused the spike in school shootings but I do not believe it’s access to guns. The access to guns hasn’t changed, the mentality of these fucked up kids has changed.
Other first world, economically developed countries don’t have the issue we do but they also have social media, mental illness, and wokeness. Difference is people here who are having a bad day can find guns extremely easily

[Trainwreck2100]

Still engaged the suspect armed with a semiauto rifle unlike the faggots in Uvalde who just stood around scared of the loser with the AR.

uvalde cops didnt engage because they assumed the first one through the door was dead, if they engaged in a hallway they would have been as "brave" as the nashville cops

[baseline bum]

uvalde cops didnt engage because they assumed the first one through the door was dead, if they engaged in a hallway they would have been as "brave" as the nashville cops

Never said they were brave, just not faggots like all the ones in Uvalde.

[Trainwreck2100]

Colorado Springs shooter doesn't look too non-binary tbh.

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/230113143157-anderson-aldrich-court-file.jpg?c=16x9&q=h_720,w_1280,c_fill/f_webp

Seems more like one of y'all after he was caught calling people ######s and beaners on a flight. Didn't bother to look up the rest after your first guy didn't check out.

please don't misgender that fat sack o crap cleary it's got boobs and a dick so maybe it's confused.

[pgardn]

If the shooter is a tranny the thread will die quickly

Tranny, who was on birth control and the morning after pill.
Clearly the crazy society causing this particular incident is a well established trend in large shoot ups so we will divert from the weapons.
She drove a car and owned a knife, weapons solved. Damn this is going well.

Im here to work with you snaked.

[Trainwreck2100]

Never said they were brave, just not faggots like all the ones in Uvalde.

i said they'd have been as "brave" in quotation marks because I wasn't saying they were either, just a tooled out gang with guns in a hallway

[TeyshaBlue]

you agree with these?

the reason im skeptical is that you dont think access to guns is even among the 3 biggest reasons for these shootings



I think TSA has a point.... Not particularly well fleshed out but a point nonetheless. We've had easy access to guns for generations. Yeah it seems to be a recent development that we are now seeing rampant mass shooting events. There is another cause at work here besides ease of weapon access. That is a problem that needs to be solved but it's not the only one. What is providing the spark to Disturbed minds that acting out in a deadly manner is an actual option to be considered?
There is a driver here. Some opine that it's social media, an expanded exposure to violence as a game or a hobby, mental illness, or some sickening combination of the above and other factors I'm not bright enough to determine. But it's not just access and it's not just right wing /left wing/trans wing.. Ithink it's deeper than that.

[pgardn]

I think TSA has a point.... Not particularly well fleshed out but a point nonetheless. We've had easy access to guns for generations. Yeah it seems to be a recent development that we are now seeing rampant mass shooting events. There is another cause at work here besides ease of weapon access. That is a problem that needs to be solved but it's not the only one. What is providing the spark to Disturbed minds that acting out in a deadly manner is an actual option to be considered?
There is a driver here. Some opine that it's social media, an expanded exposure to violence as a game or a hobby, mental illness, or some sickening combination of the above and other factors I'm not bright enough to determine. But it's not just access and it's not just right wing. I think it's deeper than that.

Definitely % leaning males.
%s leaning white males.

Cultural trends in gun fascination up?
My dad lived in the country and they had guns for meals.
But he had zero fascination with collecting and now not even owning.
It was a simple deadly tool that got animals at distance.

[spurraider21]

I think TSA has a point.... Not particularly well fleshed out but a point nonetheless. We've had easy access to guns for generations. Yeah it seems to be a recent development that we are now seeing rampant mass shooting events. There is another cause at work here besides ease of weapon access. That is a problem that needs to be solved but it's not the only one. What is providing the spark to Disturbed minds that acting out in a deadly manner is an actual option to be considered?
There is a driver here. Some opine that it's social media, an expanded exposure to violence as a game or a hobby, mental illness, or some sickening combination of the above and other factors I'm not bright enough to determine. But it's not just access and it's not just right wing /left wing/trans wing.. Ithink it's deeper than that.
That’s all fine and dandy. If the access is a problem now let’s address it. And putting aside mass murder events, we have a homicide problem generally as well (mostly done with handguns). One that isn’t really seen in other developed nations.

it’s like saying we shouldn’t address drunk driving by banning it because we’ve had alcohol access for a long time before cars

[Winehole23]

I think TSA has a point.... Not particularly well fleshed out but a point nonetheless. We've had easy access to guns for generations. Yeah it seems to be a recent development that we are now seeing rampant mass shooting events. There is another cause at work here besides ease of weapon access. That is a problem that needs to be solved but it's not the only one. What is providing the spark to Disturbed minds that acting out in a deadly manner is an actual option to be considered?
There is a driver here. Some opine that it's social media, an expanded exposure to violence as a game or a hobby, mental illness, or some sickening combination of the above and other factors I'm not bright enough to determine. But it's not just access and it's not just right wing. I think it's deeper than that.I think you're probably right that the problem is deeper than just guns, but we haven't had easy access for generations to the"battle guns" that cowed 375 LEs in Uvalde. And while there's no ideological monopoly on mass killings and politcal violence, the trend of the last 15 years or so leans heavily right wing, and not by any accident. The right wing has identified internal enemies and teases violence against them. The novel emphasis of the 2nd Amendment as an individual, unabridgeable right doesn't seem like serendipity either.

[Winehole23]

Gays and trans are being stridently declaimed as perverters of youth, and liberals as destroyers of the country, because red assed conservatives don't get a heckler's veto on social change. So they're turning to violence, with a wink and a nod from mainstream national Republicans.

Permission has been given by one major political party.

[TeyshaBlue]

I think you're probably right that the problem is deeper than just guns, but we haven't had easy access for generations to the"battle guns" that cowed 375 LEs in Uvalde. And while there's no ideological monopoly on mass killings and politcal violence, the trend of the last 15 years or so leans heavily right wing, and not by any accident. The right wing has identified internal enemies and teases violence against them. The novel emphasis of the 2nd Amendment as an individual, unabridgeable right doesn't seem like serendipity either.

This is all true but totally skips past identifying the kernel that keeps germinating in the disturbed minds of the perpetrators. I think the raw sewage of "muh 2nd amendment" certainly lends itself to fertilizing this kernel of rationalizing violent response but I don't think it's the actual source. I think it's much much deeper and probably extraordinarily disturbing.

[Winehole23]

This is all true but totally skips past identifying the kernel that keeps germinating in the disturbed minds of the perpetrators. I think the raw sewage of "muh 2nd amendment" certainly lends itself to fertilizing this kernel of rationalizing violent response but I don't think it's the actual source. I think it's much much deeper and probably extraordinarily disturbing.Not sure what you mean, but I'm intrigued. Can you hazard a guess at what the deeper layer is?

[TeyshaBlue]

I think you're probably right that the problem is deeper than just guns, but we haven't had easy access for generations to the"battle guns" that cowed 375 LEs in Uvalde. And while there's no ideological monopoly on mass killings and politcal violence, the trend of the last 15 years or so leans heavily right wing, and not by any accident. The right wing has identified internal enemies and teases violence against them. The novel emphasis of the 2nd Amendment as an individual, unabridgeable right doesn't seem like serendipity either.


Not sure what you mean, but I'm intrigued. Can you hazard a guess at what the deeper layer is?

I really can't and that's very frustrating. This feeling is more of a hunch/fear than any conclusion driven by data.

[Winehole23]

I really can't and that's very frustrating. This feeling is more of a hunch/fear than any conclusion driven by data.you don't have to back it up with anything, just describe the hunch, if you can.

[TeyshaBlue]

I think you're probably right that the problem is deeper than just guns, but we haven't had easy access for generations to the"battle guns" that cowed 375 LEs in Uvalde. And while there's no ideological monopoly on mass killings and politcal violence, the trend of the last 15 years or so leans heavily right wing, and not by any accident. The right wing has identified internal enemies and teases violence against them. The novel emphasis of the 2nd Amendment as an individual, unabridgeable right doesn't seem like serendipity either.


you don't have to back it up with anything, just describe the hunch, if you can.

I'm working on that. It literally keeps me up at night. Sorry amigo. Just trying to find the words.

[Monostradamus]

1640454996821934082
:lmao “how much hormones”

I know she does it on purpose but it’s still funny.

[pgardn]

:lmao “how much hormones”

I know she does it on purpose but it’s still funny.

She would know about the rage from testosterone and the ill effects of two eyes so close they act as one.
Dude has no depth in her vision.

[Winehole23]

1640579875370147840

[ChumpDumper]

1640454996821934082


It's trans terrorism atm

1640483509780328450

Do you agree with these statements or are you just trying to impress your friends on TexAgs?

[Winehole23]

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[ElNono]

This is all true but totally skips past identifying the kernel that keeps germinating in the disturbed minds of the perpetrators. I think the raw sewage of "muh 2nd amendment" certainly lends itself to fertilizing this kernel of rationalizing violent response but I don't think it's the actual source. I think it's much much deeper and probably extraordinarily disturbing.

There are disturbed minds everywhere in the world. They catch them after killing one or two with a knife in England, sometimes a handgun somewhere else. Or that japanese guy that shot Shinzo Abe with a self-made weapon that could only fire once.

Gun access might not be all the problem, but it's certainly one big problem. It's somewhat absurd as well, we have limits even on the First Amendment in some cases strictly for safety purposes.

The problem here as well is that weapon regulation seems to be an all or nothing proposition for some people, but it's really far from it.

At this point in time, do nothing/thoughts and prayers haven't saved a single life.

[Splits]

If only there was something we could do...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsRFEfDXsAQsynR?format=jpg&name=medium

[Adam Lambert]

This pathetic coward.
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[Blake]

If only there was something we could do...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsRFEfDXsAQsynR?format=jpg&name=medium

We need more good guys/women/children with guns

[horseshue]

1640426135178838016

Wow. It's a warzone out there.

[hater]

Pro ukranians Nafo troll and transgender too

"They" did it

Lol

Crazy fucking animals

[Winehole23]

Just put 375 big 'ol Texas pussies to shame.

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[GAustex]

I hope it hurt

[DeadlyDynasty]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1640722557111357441

[Winehole23]

Moar cops and moar gunz don't solve anything.

1640736355213799426

[Winehole23]

I hope it hurtseven people have died so far

[daboom1]

https://i.ibb.co/DMrmjLf/20230328-104948.jpg

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsUQRFlaQAIuB9Q?format=jpg&name=small

[Monostradamus]

Moar cops and moar gunz don't solve anything.

1640736355213799426
It works okay for airports. I’m not saying it’s the best solution, but at this point we have to do something. Republicans are clearly the biggest issue, but Democrats pushing legislation that they know has a 0% chance of passing, just so they can tell their voters “I tried!” while throwing their hands up, isn’t helping to prevent these situation.

[Trainwreck2100]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1640722557111357441

absolute shit planning by the shooter, uvalde boy did more with less

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1640712784391573504?t

[Leetonidas]

:lol Qhris

[Trainwreck2100]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1640712784391573504?t

private school

[Monostradamus]

https://i.ibb.co/DMrmjLf/20230328-104948.jpg

“The one who conceals hatred has lying lips, and whoever utters slander is a fool.“
Proverbs 10:18

“So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander.”
1 Peter 2:1

“You shall not spread a false report.”
Exodus 23:1

[daboom1]

“The one who conceals hatred has lying lips, and whoever utters slander is a fool.“
Proverbs 10:18

“So put away all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and envy and all slander.”
1 Peter 2:1

“You shall not spread a false report.”
Exodus 23:1

Did you like Biden's jokes about the school shooting?

[Monostradamus]

Did you like Biden's jokes about the school shooting?
He didn’t make a joke about the shooting, liar.

[Winehole23]

It works okay for airports. I’m not saying it’s the best solution, but at this point we have to do something. Republicans are clearly the biggest issue, but Democrats pushing legislation that they know has a 0% chance of passing, just so they can tell their voters “I tried!” while throwing their hands up, isn’t helping to prevent these situation.Do something even if it fixes nothing doesn't sound like much of a solution, either.

[TSA]

you agree with these?

the reason im skeptical is that you dont think access to guns is even among the 3 biggest reasons for these shootings

What have we learned from the time trend of mass shootings in the U.S.?

Little is known regarding the time trend of mass shootings and associated risk factors. In the current study, we intended to explore the time trend and relevant risk factors for mass shootings in the U.S. We attempted to identify factors associated with incidence rates of mass shootings at the population level. We evaluated if state-level gun ownership rate, serious mental illness rate, poverty percentage, and gun law permissiveness could predict the state-level mass shooting rate, using the Bayesian zero-inflated Poisson regression model. We also tested if the nationwide incidence rate of mass shootings increased over the past three decades using the non-homogenous Poisson regression model. We further examined if the frequency of online media coverage and online search interest levels correlated with the interval between two consecutive incidents. The results suggest an increasing trend of mass shooting incidences over time (p < 0.001). However, none of the state-level variables could predict the mass shooting rate. Interestingly, we have found inverse correlations between the interval between consecutive shootings and the frequency of on-line related reports as well as on-line search interests, respectively (p < 0.001). Therefore, our findings suggest that online media might correlate with the increasing incidence rate of mass shootings. Future research is warranted to continue monitoring if the incidence rates of mass shootings change with any population-level factors in order to inform us of possible prevention strategies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6193640/

[Monostradamus]

Do something even if it fixes nothing doesn't sound like much of a solution, either.
How do you know it fixes nothing? One glorified mall cop at a school fixes nothing, yes. But a larger armed presence at schools would absolutely deter these shooters. I realize that comes with it’s own set of problems, but again, do something. I’m sick of elementary school kids being murdered.

[Winehole23]

How do you know it fixes nothing? One glorified mall cop at a school fixes nothing, yes. But an armed presence at schools would absolutely deter these shooters. Again, I realize that comes with it’s own set of problems, but again, do something. I’m sick of elementary school kids being murdered.We already have armed officers at schools, the Parkland resource officers hunkered down or ran away. Last year in St. Louis, there were seven armed officers, a metal detector, and the door was locked. Shooter still got in and killed two kids.

Posting armed resource officers has not prevented a single school shooting to date. Someday it might, but it hasn't yet.

[spurraider21]

What have we learned from the time trend of mass shootings in the U.S.?

Little is known regarding the time trend of mass shootings and associated risk factors. In the current study, we intended to explore the time trend and relevant risk factors for mass shootings in the U.S. We attempted to identify factors associated with incidence rates of mass shootings at the population level. We evaluated if state-level gun ownership rate, serious mental illness rate, poverty percentage, and gun law permissiveness could predict the state-level mass shooting rate, using the Bayesian zero-inflated Poisson regression model. We also tested if the nationwide incidence rate of mass shootings increased over the past three decades using the non-homogenous Poisson regression model. We further examined if the frequency of online media coverage and online search interest levels correlated with the interval between two consecutive incidents. The results suggest an increasing trend of mass shooting incidences over time (p < 0.001). However, none of the state-level variables could predict the mass shooting rate. Interestingly, we have found inverse correlations between the interval between consecutive shootings and the frequency of on-line related reports as well as on-line search interests, respectively (p < 0.001). Therefore, our findings suggest that online media might correlate with the increasing incidence rate of mass shootings. Future research is warranted to continue monitoring if the incidence rates of mass shootings change with any population-level factors in order to inform us of possible prevention strategies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6193640/
none of this would matter if these people didnt have easy access to these weapons

other countries have social/online media too. difference is that in those countries when people are driven to do bad things, they simply dont have the tools that our people do to carry out mass damage. at least not at the same rate

[Monostradamus]

We already have armed officers at schools, the Parkland resource officers hunkered down or ran away. Last year in St. Louis, there were seven armed officers, a metal detector, and the door was locked. Shooter still got in and killed two kids.

Posting armed resource officers has not prevented a single school shooting to date. Someday it might, but it hasn't yet.
Like I said, I’m not talking about glorified mall cops. I’m saying protect schools like you protect airports and federal buildings. If you choose to ignore that point, then keep banging your head against the wall while children die. You can fight for gun reform while also finding alternative solutions for children in the meantime.

[TSA]

none of this would matter if these people didnt have easy access to these weapons

other countries have social/online media too. difference is that in those countries when people are driven to do bad things, they simply dont have the tools that our people do to carry out mass damage. at least not at the same rate

Gun law permissiveness could not predict the mass shooting rate spike.

[TSA]

Like I said, I’m not talking about glorified mall cops. I’m saying protect schools like you protect airports and federal buildings. If you choose to ignore that point, then keep banging your head against the wall while children die. You can fight for gun reform while also finding alternative solutions for children in the meantime.

Agreed.

[ChumpDumper]

Gun law permissiveness could not predict the mass shooting rate spike.

Fetishization of assault style weapons could.

[spurraider21]

Gun law permissiveness could not predict the mass shooting rate spike.
acknowledged

there is some other reason for the spike. but whatever reason that is (online media, medication, what have you), those variables are all present in other countries.

a basic form of combustion is methane reacting with oxygen to form carbon dioxide and water. if there was an increase in combustion, one might say "hmm, the variable here is that we have added a lot more methane." but if there isn't a surplus of o2 to begin with, it wouldnt matter.

regardless of there being some other variables, people who are "radicalized" or whatever simply cant do the same amount of damage without guns. thats a concrete, straightforward solution that seems to work literally everywhere else, instead of trying to attack this other nebulous esoteric mystery cause

[Winehole23]

Like I said, I’m not talking about glorified mall cops. I’m saying protect schools like you protect airports and federal buildings. If you choose to ignore that point, then keep banging your head against the wall while children die. You can fight for gun reform while also finding alternative solutions for children in the meantime.This just moves the problem from the interior of the building to the security checkpoint. Pretty soon we'd be reading about kids getting slaughtered at the front door.

[Monostradamus]

This just moves the problem from the interior of the building to the security checkpoint. Pretty soon we'd be reading about kids getting slaughtered at the front door.
Well then keep doing nothing, it’s worked great so far.

[Monostradamus]

Also is there some big epidemic of airport mass shootings just outside the security checkpoint that I’m unaware of?

[TSA]

acknowledged

there is some other reason for the spike. but whatever reason that is (online media, medication, what have you), those variables are all present in other countries.

a basic form of combustion is methane reacting with oxygen to form carbon dioxide and water. if there was an increase in combustion, one might say "hmm, the variable here is that we have added a lot more methane." but if there isn't a surplus of o2 to begin with, it wouldnt matter.

regardless of there being some other variables, people who are "radicalized" or whatever simply cant do the same amount of damage without guns. thats a concrete, straightforward solution that seems to work literally everywhere else, instead of trying to attack this other nebulous esoteric mystery cause

Easy access to guns isn't radicalizing the school shooters in our country.

[TSA]

Also is there some big epidemic of airport mass shootings just outside the security checkpoint that I’m unaware of?

Pretty soon.

[spurraider21]

Easy access to guns isn't radicalizing the school shooters in our country.
i acknowledged that for the sake of the argument. you arent reading what im writing

i can explain something to you, but i cant understand it for you

[Winehole23]

Well then keep doing nothing, it’s worked great so far.just pointing out that so-called simple solutions are seldom simple or even solutions. by all means if you can figure out some way for more gunz and more cops to actually make schools safer, go for it. maybe we can let kids open carry to bring the action closer to the bad guys.

[Winehole23]

Also is there some big epidemic of airport mass shootings just outside the security checkpoint that I’m unaware of?not that I'm aware of. if it ever happens, it will be intuitively clear why -- massing of people at the security checkpoint.

[Monostradamus]

just pointing out that so-called simple solutions are seldom simple or even solutions. by all means if you can figure out some way for more gunz and more cops to actually make schools safer, go for it. maybe we can let kids open carry to bring the action closer to the bad guys.
Getting rid of the guns is the obvious best solution. But half this country refuses to let that happen, they could care less if children die or not, and it’s just not going to change. Not in the short term, anyway. So again, you can fight for gun reform and also do something, or you can fight for gun reform and do nothing while children keep dying.

It’s clearly not the best solution, but this at least does something. I don’t care about political wins or losses, I care about fewer dead kids. But please, continue going down the same dead end over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over while children get slaughtered.

Do you actually want to find a solution, or do you just want to complain about how stupid Republicans are?

[Monostradamus]

not that I'm aware of. if it ever happens, it will be intuitively clear why -- massing of people at the security checkpoint.
It’s almost like shooters know there’s easier targets with less resistance.

[Winehole23]

Getting rid of the guns is the obvious best solution. But half this country refuses to let that happen, they could care less if children die or not, and it’s just not going to change. Not in the short term, anyway. So again, you can fight for gun reform and also do something, or you can fight for gun reform and do nothing while children keep dying.

It’s clearly not the best solution, but this at least does something. I don’t care about political wins or losses, I care about fewer dead kids. But please, continue going down the same dead end over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over while children get slaughtered.

Do you actually want to find a solution, or do you just want to complain about how stupid Republicans are?Like I said, go for it. Politics is the art of the possible.

That said, the stupidity of Republicans prevents the best, most obvious solution.

[Trainwreck2100]

Like I said, I’m not talking about glorified mall cops. I’m saying protect schools like you protect airports and federal buildings. If you choose to ignore that point, then keep banging your head against the wall while children die. You can fight for gun reform while also finding alternative solutions for children in the meantime.
Logistically best impossible some schools have thousands of students bottlenecking them in such a way would take hours to just get into the building. Also there are hundreds of schools in some areas where fed buildings run into the teens and there's 1 airport. "hardening" schools is a strategy that will be short resources from jump.

[Adam Lambert]

acknowledged

there is some other reason for the spike. but whatever reason that is (online media, medication, what have you), those variables are all present in other countries.

a basic form of combustion is methane reacting with oxygen to form carbon dioxide and water. if there was an increase in combustion, one might say "hmm, the variable here is that we have added a lot more methane." but if there isn't a surplus of o2 to begin with, it wouldnt matter.

regardless of there being some other variables, people who are "radicalized" or whatever simply cant do the same amount of damage without guns. thats a concrete, straightforward solution that seems to work literally everywhere else, instead of trying to attack this other nebulous esoteric mystery cause

Other countries have addressed the culture change by making it harder to get those guns. United States conservatives think the better solution is to change the culture back to what it was.

One of those solutions is achievable and has been proven consistently in other countries. The other is a pipe dream fantasy but consistent with the nostalgic conservative worldview.

[TSA]

i acknowledged that for the sake of the argument. you arent reading what im writing

i can explain something to you, but i cant understand it for you

So then what do you think is radicalizing these shooters?

[Winehole23]

lol TSA pontificating about radicalization

[Winehole23]

Logistically best impossible some schools have thousands of students bottlenecking them in such a way would take hours to just get into the building. Also there are hundreds of schools in some areas where fed buildings run into the teens and there's 1 airport. "hardening" schools is a strategy that will be short resources from jump.not only that, there's a probable psychological toll on students. hardening schools would send a daily message that schools aren't safe. active shooter drills are episodic, at most.

[spurraider21]

So then what do you think is radicalizing these shooters?
im taking your previous points at face value. untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc

what im saying is regardless of all those things, people wouldnt be able to carry out as many mass murders if they couldnt access these types of weapons as easily as they do. its like asking if its better to try to preach north korea and iran to be nice/good, or is it better to prevent them from acquiring nukes. which is more feasible. which allows for a more concrete plan of action.

when it comes to guns/shootings, we've seen what works quite literally everywhere else.

[Monostradamus]

Logistically best impossible some schools have thousands of students bottlenecking them in such a way would take hours to just get into the building. Also there are hundreds of schools in some areas where fed buildings run into the teens and there's 1 airport. "hardening" schools is a strategy that will be short resources from jump.
I’m not advocating for students taking their shoes and belt off before walking into school. But metal detectors + a strong militarized force would absolutely deter shooters from targeting schools. And the funding for this is a Republican problem. Republicans want this in place, so they can put up or shut up with the funding.

[TSA]

It’s almost like shooters know there’s easier targets with less resistance.

This shooter knew the school was an easier target with less resistance.

"The shooter at the Covenant School planned to attack multiple locations, the Metro Nashville police chief said in a press conference on Monday.

Police Chief John Drake said police found a manifesto from the shooter, 28-year-old Audrey Hale. Hale is a former student of the Covenant School, a private Christian school for students aged preschool through 6th grade.

“It was the only school that was targeted. There was another location that was mentioned, but because of a threat assessment by the suspect of too much security, they decided not to,” Drake said.

https://www.wsmv.com/2023/03/28/nashville-school-shooter-had-plans-attack-multiple-locations-police-say/

[Monostradamus]

not only that, there's a probable psychological toll on students. hardening schools would send a daily message that schools aren't safe. active shooter drills are episodic, at most.
Because all the actual school shootings doesn’t do that already?

[TSA]

im taking your previous points at face value. untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc

what im saying is regardless of all those things, people wouldnt be able to carry out as many mass murders if they couldnt access these types of weapons as easily as they do. its like asking if its better to try to preach north korea and iran to be nice/good, or is it better to prevent them from acquiring nukes. which is more feasible. which allows for a more concrete plan of action.

when it comes to guns/shootings, we've seen what works quite literally everywhere else.

I'm asking you what you think is radicalizing these shooters?

[spurraider21]

I'm asking you what you think is radicalizing these shooters?
you're just not reading at this point. you will obfuscate to the point of infinity

because you care more about muh guns than kids dying. always have

im taking your previous points at face value. untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc

what im saying is regardless of all those things, people wouldnt be able to carry out as many mass murders if they couldnt access these types of weapons as easily as they do. its like asking if its better to try to preach north korea and iran to be nice/good, or is it better to prevent them from acquiring nukes. which is more feasible. which allows for a more concrete plan of action.

when it comes to guns/shootings, we've seen what works quite literally everywhere else.

[ChumpDumper]

This shooter knew the school was an easier target with less resistance.

"The shooter at the Covenant School planned to attack multiple locations, the Metro Nashville police chief said in a press conference on Monday.

Police Chief John Drake said police found a manifesto from the shooter, 28-year-old Audrey Hale. Hale is a former student of the Covenant School, a private Christian school for students aged preschool through 6th grade.

“It was the only school that was targeted. There was another location that was mentioned, but because of a threat assessment by the suspect of too much security, they decided not to,” Drake said.

https://www.wsmv.com/2023/03/28/nashville-school-shooter-had-plans-attack-multiple-locations-police-say/The logical end of this line of thinking is to turn every single public gathering space into an guarded fortress.

You could kill a dozen kids driving by a bus stop.

Now what?

[SnakeBoy]

I'm working on that. It literally keeps me up at night. Sorry amigo. Just trying to find the words.

Words...

https://jasonbybee.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/36556202._uy630_sr1200630_.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

Words...

https://jasonbybee.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/36556202._uy630_sr1200630_.jpg

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[TSA]

you're just not reading at this point. you will obfuscate to the point of infinityI took your previous comment as an attempt to dismiss and not discuss. How do we prevent or slow the radicalization of these school shooters?


because you care more about muh guns than kids dying. always haveNever have and never will. Making things up isn't a great way to keep a healthy debate going.

[Blake]

I’m not advocating for students taking their shoes and belt off before walking into school. But metal detectors + a strong militarized force would absolutely deter shooters from targeting schools. And the funding for this is a Republican problem. Republicans want this in place, so they can put up or shut up with the funding.

Pfft. If Republicans haven't put up the funding by now..

[Leetonidas]

Funny how untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc, are all present in other countries in the world yet the USA is the only country that has this recurring problem with mass shootings. i wonder what the difference in America is versus all those other places...:wakeup

but yeah, mental health/media/etc are to blame :lmao you people are disingenuous to the core

[spurraider21]

Funny how untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc, are all present in other countries in the world yet the USA is the only country that has this recurring problem with mass shootings. i wonder what the difference in America is versus all those other places...:wakeup

but yeah, mental health/media/etc are to blame :lmao you people are disingenuous to the core
they will deflect to literally everything except the obvious variable. because muh guns. come and get em.

[Adam Lambert]

Funny how untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc, are all present in other countries in the world yet the USA is the only country that has this recurring problem with mass shootings. i wonder what the difference in America is versus all those other places...:wakeup

but yeah, mental health/media/etc are to blame :lmao you people are disingenuous to the core

Just waiting for TSA to complete the talking points by blaming the lack of Jesus in schools.

[TSA]

Funny how untreated mental health, social media, mainstream media, etc, are all present in other countries in the world yet the USA is the only country that has this recurring problem with mass shootings. i wonder what the difference in America is versus all those other places...:wakeup

but yeah, mental health/media/etc are to blame :lmao you people are disingenuous to the core

The access to guns hasn't changed during the spike in school shootings. Pretending our culture here in the US is the same as every other country in the world is disingenuous.

[Adam Lambert]

The access to guns hasn't changed during the spike in school shootings. Pretending our culture here in the US is the same as every other country in the world is disingenuous.

True in part, our culture has a gun fetish problem perpetuated by a powerful gun lobby.

Aside from that, pretty similar. You can't reverse course on culture. You adapt.

[Leetonidas]

The access to guns hasn't changed during the spike in school shootings. Pretending our culture here in the US is the same as every other country in the world is disingenuous.

:lmao you mean gun culture? thanks for proving my point

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao you mean gun culture? thanks for proving my point

:lol Exactly. No culture fetishizes assault style weapons and promotes them as a solution to problems and ills and grievances more than America.

How does TSA want to stop that?

[spurraider21]

The access to guns hasn't changed during the spike in school shootings. Pretending our culture here in the US is the same as every other country in the world is disingenuous.
person A has always been completely doused in gunpowder. it hasnt changed

person B has not

both person A and person B are affected by a new variable, they are now both holding lit matches.

even though the gunpowder hasnt changed for years, person A is suddenly in a lot more danger. it doesnt matter that the gunpowder hasnt changed. what matters is that the gunpowder puts him at significantly more risk of harm

you keep going on and on about how access to guns hasnt changed. frankly, i dont care. what i do care about is that the access to guns has contributed to greater and greater amounts of harm. we can document every other similar country's success in warding off this kind of violence by limiting gun access. its a proven solution. you are trying to reinvent the wheel

[hater]

Guns dont kill people. Gays do

[ChumpDumper]

Guns dont kill people. Gays do

hater's a homophobe now too.

[TSA]

True in part, our culture has a gun fetish problem perpetuated by a powerful gun lobby.

Aside from that, pretty similar. You can't reverse course on culture. You adapt.

You think it's "gun culture" that is radicalizing school shooters?

[TSA]

:lmao you mean gun culture? thanks for proving my point

Same question to you...do you think it's "gun culture" that is radicalizing school shooters?

[ChumpDumper]

However they get radicalized, gun culture cheerleads guns as the way to express one's radicalization, or basically any feelings tbh.

What are you going to do about your gun culture, TSA?

[spurraider21]

You think it's "gun culture" that is radicalizing school shooters?


Same question to you...do you think it's "gun culture" that is radicalizing school shooters?
what do you think is radicalizing school shooters

[TSA]

person A has always been completely doused in gunpowder. it hasnt changed

person B has not

both person A and person B are affected by a new variable, they are now both holding lit matches.

even though the gunpowder hasnt changed for years, person A is suddenly in a lot more danger. it doesnt matter that the gunpowder hasnt changed. what matters is that the gunpowder puts him at significantly more risk of harm

you keep going on and on about how access to guns hasnt changed. frankly, i dont care. what i do care about is that the access to guns has contributed to greater and greater amounts of harm. we can document every other similar country's success in warding off this kind of violence by limiting gun access. its a proven solution. you are trying to reinvent the wheel

I already agreed with limitations on guns yesterday.

I keep bringing up that access to guns hasn't changed because it's obviously not the access that has caused the spike in school shootings. Something has changed in the shooters carrying out these attacks more frequently...what?

[SnakeBoy]

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

Yes books written by libs are funny

[TSA]

what do you think is radicalizing school shooters

Lack of parenting and the internet.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes books written by libs are funnyYou're posting nothing, boomer. Your rage is duly noted.

[ChumpDumper]

Lack of parenting and the internet.

Oh, fixing those sounds totally easier than a weapons ban we have already implemented in the past.

[spurraider21]

Lack of parenting and the internet.
ok

what is easier to fix from a policy perspective. parenting and "internet"... or guns.

as a side note, id ask you to look at other countries which have these same variables and how they have limited the amount of shooting. you could look at the UK and Australia as some prime examples

[TSA]

ok

what is easier to fix from a policy perspective. parenting and "internet"... or guns.

as a side note, id ask you to look at other countries which have these same variables and how they have limited the amount of shooting

This hasn't been fixed by a policy perspective but sure keep hoping that works I guess.

[spurraider21]

This hasn't been fixed by a policy perspective but sure keep hoping that works I guess.
worked in the UK and Australia, both fairly recently

[pgardn]

Lack of parenting and the internet.

This is unique to the US?

[SnakeBoy]

You're posting nothing, boomer. Your rage is duly noted.

You're the one lashing out lol

[ChumpDumper]

You're the one lashing out lol:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin "lashing out"

Man you're soft if you think that's lashing out.

Maybe this space isn't safe enough for you.

[SnakeBoy]

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin "lashing out"

Man you're soft if you think that's lashing out.

Maybe this space isn't safe enough for you.

That book recommendation to TB really triggered you. So many emoticons lol

[Adam Lambert]

You think it's "gun culture" that is radicalizing school shooters?

I think it's gun culture that is making it easy for school shooters to obtain guns.

[ChumpDumper]

That book recommendation to TB really triggered you. So many emoticons lolIt triggered riotous laughter which I translated into message board shorthand.

Do you need protection from the big bad emojis?

I'll let up on you if it's too much for your delicate sensibilities.

You want some coddling tbh.

[TSA]

I think it's gun culture that is making it easy for school shooters to obtain guns.

Ok...so what do you think is radicalizing the school shooters?

[ChumpDumper]

TSA rodeo in full effect.

Muh conditions to follow.

[boutons_deux]

Ok...so what do you think is radicalizing the school shooters?

Financial precarity, distress, banned from public consciousness in favor of scapegoats, leading to despair of current and future living leads 10Ms into insurrectionist, abolitionist, anti-govt thinking.

Financial distress? Thanks, Capitalism, and fuck you, the new serfdom

[spurraider21]

TSA rodeo in full effect.

Muh conditions to follow.
next step will be technical jargon about guns

you said clip instead of magazine? then you are no longer qualified to even discuss gun control

[Ef-man]

next step will be technical jargon about guns

you said clip instead of magazine? then you are no longer qualified to even discuss gun control

To paraphrase a Spinal Tap quote: “His guns go to eleven.”

[Adam Lambert]

Ok...so what do you think is radicalizing the school shooters?

Probably the lack of Jesus in schools and the decline of patriotism.

[Adam Lambert]

The premise of your question is flawed because it assumes that people aren't "radicalized" in other places where school shootings are not occurring.

Every country has crazy sociopaths. It's easier for them to get guns here.

[TSA]

The premise of your question is flawed because it assumes that people aren't "radicalized" in other places where school shootings are not occurring.

Every country has crazy sociopaths. It's easier for them to get guns here.

The dismissal of my question is flawed because you assume every country has the same amount of sociopaths per capita.

[daboom1]

Bad people do bad things. They don't care about laws. Disarming the public is asinine, but carry on spinning your wheels.

[spurraider21]

Bad people do bad things. They don't care about laws.
great argument for repealing every single law. bad people will do bad things anyway

meanwhile, disarming has worked everywhere else even though they also have bad people

[daboom1]

great argument for repealing every single law. bad people will do bad things anyway

meanwhile, disarming has worked everywhere else even though they also have bad people

Yeah disarming the public worked out great for Hitler.

[spurraider21]

Yeah disarming the public worked out great for Hitler.
worked great for the UK and Australia in response to their mass shootings

i would agree that saying "people of x race/religion should have different gun rights than others" is bad and wrong

[boutons_deux]

The dismissal of my question is flawed because you assume every country has the same amount of sociopaths per capita.

Why does legalistic, rights-obsessed, inhumane Capitalistic, inorganic America create so many sociopaths, psychopaths, 10Ms of fucked up people, a toxic rural culture?

[Adam Lambert]

The dismissal of my question is flawed because you assume every country has the same amount of sociopaths per capita.

:lol Your entire argument is assumption.

There's one tangible variable here. It's the guns, stupid.

[Adam Lambert]

Bad people do bad things. They don't care about laws.

Weird how this logic doesn't apply when you're talking about transgender restroom access.

Do bad Europeans care more about laws? Why aren't they shooting up schools?

[boutons_deux]

Nearly 3 Out Of 4 Support Raising Legal Age To Buy Any Gun,

Support For Assault Weapons Ban Hits A Low

Americans support 74 - 24 percent raising the minimum legal age to buy any gun to 21 years old nationwide,

Democrats (91 - 7 percent),

independents (76 - 22 percent), and

Republicans (59 - 39 percent)

all support raising the minimum legal age to buy any gun to 21 years old nationwide.

Fifty-two percent of Americans think the United States would be less safe if more people carried guns,

while 37 percent think the United States would be safer if more people carried guns.

There is near unanimous support (92 percent) for requiring background checks for all gun buyers,

while 7 percent oppose requiring background checks for all gun buyers.

Americans support 83 - 12 percent a so called "red flag" law allowing police or family members to petition a judge to remove guns from a person that may be at risk for violent behavior.

Half of Americans (50 percent) support a nationwide ban on the sale of assault weapons, while 45 percent oppose it.

https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release

America is so fucked up, fucking insane, the insanity "shall not be infringed"

What Americans want is 100% overridden by corruption by the Gun/Ammo industry of the political and judicial classes, corruption enabled by the anti-democratic up Constitution.

your votes don't fucking count.

[Blake]

Bad people do bad things. They don't care about laws.

You mean like Trump?

[boutons_deux]

Tennessee governor who signed permitless carry law offers prayers after school shooting

“I am closely monitoring the tragic situation at Covenant, & the @TNDeptofSafety (https://twitter.com/TNDeptofSafety) & @TNHighwayPatrol (https://twitter.com/TNHighwayPatrol) are assisting local law enforcement & first responders at the scene,” he tweeted (https://twitter.com/GovBillLee/status/1640398036818968586).

“As we continue to respond, please join us in praying for the school, congregation & Nashville community.” :lol

every year nearly 350 children and teens (https://www.everytown.org/solutions/responsible-gun-storage/) unintentionally shoot themselves or someone else,

and up to 80% of gunfire at schools involve kids who got the gun from their home or someone else’s home,

pointing again to the need for guns to be locked up where kids can’t get them.

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2023/3/27/2160500/-Tennessee-governor-who-signed-permitless-carry-law-offers-prayers-after-school-shooting

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Bill Lee's Finances


https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/campaign-finance/180465/bill-lee

[Brazil]

I assume repugs are still on their usual denial stuff am I right ?

knifes also kill
we should give weapons to the teachers
bad people will find a way to buy guns anyway
:cry mah 2nd amendment blabla :cry
freedom

what else ?

[Brazil]

14 years of ST already I read too many threads like that... we have two or three mass shooting a year and america is still debating if 16 y/o should be allowed to buy assault weapons... dear fucking god

[spurraider21]

as of 2020, firearms are the single leading cause of death for children in the US, having just surpassed vehicle crashes. partially because vehicles/car seats have become safer, but also because gun deaths have been increasing

[TeyshaBlue]

I think it's gun culture that is making it easy for school shooters to obtain guns.
+10
In addition providing the impetus to obtain them.

[spurraider21]

14 years of ST already I read too many threads like that... we have two or three mass shooting a year and america is still debating if 16 y/o should be allowed to buy assault weapons... dear fucking god
the only logical conclusion is that they love their guns so much that they're willing to sacrifice some kids along the way because thats just the price of freedom

[DarrinS]

as of 2020, firearms are the single leading cause of death for children in the US, having just surpassed vehicle crashes. partially because vehicles/car seats have become safer, but also because gun deaths have been increasing

Probably depends on how you define "children"

[Monostradamus]

^lol, pedo Darrin

[Winehole23]

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[koriwhat]

MENTAL ILLNESS at its finest unfortunately and that's been the case for all these mass shootings, trans or not, outside of Chicago on a daily basis.

[koriwhat]

^lol, pedo Darrin

I wouldn't doubt if your computer is riddled with child abuse photos/videos.

[spurraider21]

MENTAL ILLNESS at its finest unfortunately and that's been the case for all these mass shootings, trans or not, outside of Chicago on a daily basis.
probably shouldnt make it super easy for mentally ill people to get their hands on high capacity firearms

[ChumpDumper]

MENTAL ILLNESS at its finest unfortunately and that's been the case for all these mass shootings, trans or not, outside of Chicago on a daily basis.

I think saying that for all 2800 mass shootings the past five years is painting with too broad a brush.

[koriwhat]

probably shouldnt make it super easy for mentally ill people to get their hands on high capacity firearms

Super easy? Everyone goes through background checks bro and there's no real way to guess who's mentally ill but being "trans" is a really great indicator tbh.

[koriwhat]

I think saying that for all 2800 mass shootings the past five years is painting with too broad a brush.

Where'd that number come from? Now do specifically school shootings in the USA in the past 5 years. If it was 2800 it'd be plastered on the news daily without commercial breaks.

[ElNono]

You forgot "political affiliation"


Generally the first post of certain individuals here is some sort of reddit/tweet about alleged memberships to Antifa, etc.


https://i.ibb.co/DMrmjLf/20230328-104948.jpg

well, well well... too easy :lol

[SnakeBoy]

The woke left is responsible for this shooting

You called it. Not Hater, you!

[SnakeBoy]

1640782176764694528

Stage 1: Shooting at white Christian school in a red state...We got those repugs now
Stage 2: Oh it was a tranny, let's talk about the guns
Stage 3: Tranny shootings are no big deal, just look at the chart I made

Wonder what Stage 4 will be

[Tyronn Lue]

Graphic Designer



I knew it
Best comment in the thread

[boutons_deux]

Tennessee Shut Down a Red Flag Law That Could Have Stopped the Nashville School Shooting

Law enforcement said there are no laws in the state that would’ve allowed police to take weapons away from the shooter.


https://newrepublic.com/post/171437/tennessee-red-flag-law-nashville-school-shooting

[daboom1]

Stage 1: Shooting at white Christian school in a red state...We got those repugs now
Stage 2: Oh it was a tranny, let's talk about the guns
Stage 3: Tranny shootings are no big deal, just look at the chart I made

Wonder what Stage 4 will be

Stage 4: Blame Trump