2023 NBA Playoffs: Gregg Popovich's Coaching Tree

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/gregg-popovich-coaching-tree-2023-nba-playoffs/

A few reaches but pretty impressive list, tbh :tu

[slick'81]

Hey,we got the real thing right here:smokin

[Barfunk]

The best coach of all time, in any sport. The results speak for themselves. I still say Duncan wins at least 2-3 chips on another team with different players and coach and Ginobili at least 1 chip and Parker maybe 1 somewhere else as well, but it still doesn't take away what Pop was able to do across the board, and for such a long period of time. Every coach needs great players. His coaching tree is unmatched as well.

[libertarian4321]

The best coach of all time, in any sport. The results speak for themselves. I still say Duncan wins at least 2-3 chips on another team with different players and coach and Ginobili at least 1 chip and Parker maybe 1 somewhere else as well, but it still doesn't take away what Pop was able to do across the board, and for such a long period of time. Every coach needs great players. His coaching tree is unmatched as well.

Is Pop a genius who made Tim Duncan great, or is Pop a Division 3 college coach who got lucky and looked good only when Duncan was leading the team?

Did you know that Popovich, without Tim Duncan, has a career record well below .500 and missed the playoffs more often than he made them?

With Tim Duncan, Pop was a "genius." Without Tim, Pop's coaching skills are closer to those of Marc Iavaroni than Phil Jackson.

[daslicer]

Is Pop a genius who made Tim Duncan great, or is Pop a Division 3 college coach who got lucky and looked good only when Duncan was leading the team?

Did you know that Popovich, without Tim Duncan, has a career record well below .500 and missed the playoffs more often than he made them?

With Tim Duncan, Pop was a "genius." Without Tim, Pop's coaching skills are closer to those of Marc Iavaroni than Phil Jackson.

Agreed. I always say coaching in the NBA is grossly overrated. The players make the coach and not vice versa.

[Mr. Body]

Is Pop a genius who made Tim Duncan great, or is Pop a Division 3 college coach who got lucky and looked good only when Duncan was leading the team?

Did you know that Popovich, without Tim Duncan, has a career record well below .500 and missed the playoffs more often than he made them?

With Tim Duncan, Pop was a "genius." Without Tim, Pop's coaching skills are closer to those of Marc Iavaroni than Phil Jackson.

Not surprising to see a Libertarian have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Is Pop a genius who made Tim Duncan great, or is Pop a Division 3 college coach who got lucky and looked good only when Duncan was leading the team?

Did you know that Popovich, without Tim Duncan, has a career record well below .500 and missed the playoffs more often than he made them?

With Tim Duncan, Pop was a "genius." Without Tim, Pop's coaching skills are closer to those of Marc Iavaroni than Phil Jackson.
What did Jackson bring?
As he used triangle offense in the 90s, he tried to put it on the Knicks in the mid-2010s. What has Phil Jackson accomplished without a top 10 player of all time on the roster?
The first three-peat is the result of having two top 5 players in the league Jordan and Pippen (two MVP caliber players) on the roster. The second three-peat is the result of the league expansion and the subsequent downgrading of the competition.
The first three-peat Lakers was also possible because of Shaq-Kobe (two MVP caliber players) and loyal officiating.
Popovich started with a defensive system around two towers and a group of veterans.
Came to the sole dominance of Tim Duncan in the "post".
Rebuilt the Spurs in favor of the backcourt following changes to the handchecking rules.
Invented "basketball of the future" with Tony Parker as the MVP contender.
Returned to the two towers with the arrival of LaMarcus Aldridge.
Reformatted the attack around Kawhi.
After 2019, he did not have a roster at his disposal, suitable even for regular hits in the playoffs, not to mention being a contender. Due to Brin's poorly formed roster, Forbes had to release in the starting five.
If Jackson were in a similar situation, he would have gone on vacation, as he did in 1998 and 2004.

[tonight...you]

What did Jackson bring?
As he used triangle offense in the 90s, he tried to put it on the Knicks in the mid-2010s. What has Phil Jackson accomplished without a top 10 player of all time on the roster?
The first three-peat is the result of having two top 5 players in the league Jordan and Pippen (two MVP caliber players) on the roster. The second three-peat is the result of the league expansion and the subsequent downgrading of the competition.
The first three-peat Lakers was also possible because of Shaq-Kobe (two MVP caliber players) and loyal officiating.
Popovich started with a defensive system around two towers and a group of veterans.
Came to the sole dominance of Tim Duncan in the "post".
Rebuilt the Spurs in favor of the backcourt following changes to the handchecking rules.
Invented "basketball of the future" with Tony Parker as the MVP contender.
Returned to the two towers with the arrival of LaMarcus Aldridge.
Reformatted the attack around Kawhi.
After 2019, he did not have a roster at his disposal, suitable even for regular hits in the playoffs, not to mention being a contender. Due to Brin's poorly formed roster, Forbes had to release in the starting five.
If Jackson were in a similar situation, he would have gone on vacation, as he did in 1998 and 2004.
Phil didn't even create the triangle offense. Tex Winter did in the 40's.
He just tried to shoehorn it in wherever he went and had the benefit of having the greatest players to execute it.
Dude had no innovation within him nor did he even want to adapt while giving Zen books to his players which is all about being in the moment.
They called him the Zen Master while he never practiced what he preached tactically.

[TD 21]

What did Jackson bring?
As he used triangle offense in the 90s, he tried to put it on the Knicks in the mid-2010s. What has Phil Jackson accomplished without a top 10 player of all time on the roster?
The first three-peat is the result of having two top 5 players in the league Jordan and Pippen (two MVP caliber players) on the roster. The second three-peat is the result of league expansion and low resistance.
The first three-peat Lakers was also possible because of Shaq-Kobe (two MVP caliber players) and loyal officiating.
Popovich started with a defensive system around two towers and a group of veterans.
Came to the sole dominance of Tim Duncan in the "post".
Rebuilt the Spurs in favor of the backcourt following changes to the handchecking rules.
Invented "basketball of the future" with Tony Parker as the MVP contender.
Returned to the two towers with the arrival of LaMarcus Aldridge.
Reformatted the attack around Kawhi.
After 2019, he did not have a roster at his disposal, suitable even for regular hits in the playoffs, not to mention being a contender. Due to Brin's poorly formed roster, Forbes had to release in the starting five.
If Jackson were in a similar situation, he would have gone on vacation, as he did in 1998 and 2004.

Jackson's teams won 2 championships without a top 10 all time player ('09 and '10 Lakers), while Popovich's teams won 1 championship without a player playing at a top 10 all time level ('14).

Pippen wasn't a top 5 or MVP caliber player (Jordan, Olajuwon, Robinson, Malone, Barkley and after the Bulls first threepeat, O'Neal).

Popovich gets way too much credit for Robinson's and Duncan's unusual humility for players of their stature and their willingness to step aside as the offensive centerpiece or at least the sole one. Ingenuity wasn't required for the baton to be passed.

Popovich is also primarily to blame for the roster post Scumbag. It's only recently where Wright and company have gained more control and are trying to cleanup his and Buford's mess.

[Barfunk]

Is Pop a genius who made Tim Duncan great, or is Pop a Division 3 college coach who got lucky and looked good only when Duncan was leading the team?

Did you know that Popovich, without Tim Duncan, has a career record well below .500 and missed the playoffs more often than he made them?

With Tim Duncan, Pop was a "genius." Without Tim, Pop's coaching skills are closer to those of Marc Iavaroni than Phil Jackson.

It was a synergy. And what do you mean, Phil Jackson had 3 consensus all-time top 10 players on his championship teams as well as his teams being stacked in general when he was winning. The point stands, EVERY coach needs great players regardless.

[Barfunk]

Not surprising to see a Libertarian have no fucking idea what they're talking about.

Right wing nutcases are even worse when it comes to not knowing what they're talking about and basing most of their political beliefs on their religion as well as racism.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Only on ST will someone call what Pop and RC have done in a small market team ‘a mess’ :lol Jesus christ the quality has really gone down the drain

[TD 21]

Only on ST will someone call what Pop and RC have done in a small market team ‘a mess’ :lol Jesus christ the quality has really gone down the drain

:lmao At the apologist being intentionally obtuse because he's perturbed that someone isn't worshiping at the old white man's altar and thinks the all time player/core deserve the majority of the credit for the dynasty . . . you know, like every other one in at least major North American professional sports.

[Vince Carter's ankle]

Pippen wasn't a top 5 or MVP caliber player (Jordan, Olajuwon, Robinson, Malone, Barkley and after the Bulls first threepeat, O'Neal).
Pippen in the season without Jordan was one game away from the Conference Finals and was top 3 in MVP voting.
Just because Jordan got all the attention from the press and narrow-minded laymen like you doesn't make Barkley a better player than Pippen.
Not everything can be measured by numbers in boxscore.

[TD 21]

Pippen in the season without Jordan was one game away from the Conference Finals and was top 3 in MVP voting.
Just because Jordan got all the attention from the press and narrow-minded laymen like you doesn't make Barkley a better player than Pippen.
Not everything can be measured by numbers in boxscore.

I'm aware of their respective resumes and if you want to play the results without context game, Barkley came two within' 2 wins of a championship as the undisputed best player.

Pippen was a top 10 player, but not an MVP caliber (George finished 3rd in '19 and he's never been a top 10 player) one and needed to be a second option on a championship caliber team.

Plenty can be measured through catch all metrics, which agree with me that Barkley was clearly better.

[tonight...you]

Lol, "old white man's altar".
Well, I guess he is an old white man. So there's that.

[JPB]

Only (some) spurs fans to discuss if Pop is a great coach tbh.

[Mr. Body]

Jackson's teams won 2 championships without a top 10 all time player ('09 and '10 Lakers), while Popovich's teams won 1 championship without a player playing at a top 10 all time level ('14).

Pippen wasn't a top 5 or MVP caliber player (Jordan, Olajuwon, Robinson, Malone, Barkley and after the Bulls first threepeat, O'Neal).

Popovich gets way too much credit for Robinson's and Duncan's unusual humility for players of their stature and their willingness to step aside as the offensive centerpiece or at least the sole one. Ingenuity wasn't required for the baton to be passed.

Popovich is also primarily to blame for the roster post Scumbag. It's only recently where Wright and company have gained more control and are trying to cleanup his and Buford's mess.

Jackson's rosters were filthy. Those two Kobe-lead teams in 09 and 10 had a ridiculously good front line -- given to him in part by Jerry West. He didn't even have his own offense and couldn't run anything but the offense he was given. He never changed. He knew he sucked without top notch talent and left whenever he didn't have it.

Your arguments here about Popovich are just ignorant, stupid and lazy.

[TD 21]

Jackson's rosters were filthy. Those two Kobe-lead teams in 09 and 10 had a ridiculously good front line -- given to him in part by Jerry West. He didn't even have his own offense and couldn't run anything but the offense he was given. He never changed. He knew he sucked without top notch talent and left whenever he didn't have it.

Your arguments here about Popovich are just ignorant, stupid and lazy.

Nobody said they weren't (Robinson and Duncan't weren't half bad though) or that anyone wins without talent.

That's literally the point I'm always trying to make that you apologists either pretend to or inexplicably genuinely misconstrue.

He didn't win because of all the bullshit narratives that have been fed to the public, he won because of talent too. He's told you that countless times, but you were too brainwashed to listen to it.

[scott]

Championship teams have good players, what a novel observation.

[gambit1990]

his tree is the only tree.

[TD 21]

Championship teams have good players, what a novel observation.

It is here, where the majority are brainwashed by thinking the president/coach has a magic wand and that it's primarily responsible for the dynasty.

[Ariel]

Obviously landing Tim played a huge role in the organization being as successful as it was, but time has proven time and again that, no matter how good you are, you need talent and structure around you in order to win. In that sense, the Spurs drafted and developed Tony, Manu and Kawhi, signed or acquired role players like Bruce Bowen, Robert Horry, Danny Green, Boris Diaw, etc., and got them into a cohesive team that remained a contender for over a decade and a half. That's not just balls bouncing the right way. Are there other coaches that, in similar circumstances could have had similar success? Probably, but most wouldn't (and don't). That doesn't mean I blindly adhere to everything the FO does, but chances are any of us would be lucky to be half as successful at any one thing as Pop has been at his craft.

[Spursfanfromafar]

If Pop wasn't this good as some of the morons here are stating..he wouldn't have been the root for the coaching tree that has spread branches across the league as has happened today. Rhe best achievers are institution builders. Pop is the best among them.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

:lmao At the apologist being intentionally obtuse because he's perturbed that someone isn't worshiping at the old white man's altar and thinks the all time player/core deserve the majority of the credit for the dynasty . . . you know, like every other one in at least major North American professional sports.

Well your complete lack of general awareness and understanding of context is amusing because it’s genuine, unlike most who are just trolling.

[exstatic]

Jackson's rosters were filthy. Those two Kobe-lead teams in 09 and 10 had a ridiculously good front line -- given to him in part by Jerry West. He didn't even have his own offense and couldn't run anything but the offense he was given. He never changed. He knew he sucked without top notch talent and left whenever he didn't have it.

Your arguments here about Popovich are just ignorant, stupid and lazy.

Jackson also took over two teams who had just been to the conference finals.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

The last time someone posted something about Pop's coaching legacy a lot of the same fools started poo-pooing Pop's accomplishments. Just like the success of the Duncan-era that folks just took for granted, a lot of misinformed armchair basketball experts seem to think what Pop did all these years was easy. These same idiots won't be satisfied if Pop's successor(s) don't have teams that reach Duncan-era success status. You'll see these guys lamenting Pop's absence...except for Ducks perhaps.

We as fans were witness to the greatest streak of winning ever seen in professional sports, but some don't want to give any credit for that to the head coach. Someone held this team together, someone added the pieces around Tim, someone guided the ship through all of the distractions that come with being in the NBA. To not acknowledge Pop's success and impact is really, really dumb. Laughable.

[Millennial_Messiah]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.

[K...]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.

This is , to put it lightly, crap. You are crap casual, and welcome back.

A great coach trying to tank for victor would absolutely got to 20wins and if you followed the season youd see the GOAT take on the process

[Millennial_Messiah]

This is , to put it lightly, crap. You are crap casual, and welcome back.

A great coach trying to tank for victor would absolutely got to 20wins and if you followed the season youd see the GOAT take on the process

Tanking without a legit excuse, like David Robinson's injury, is cheesy horseshit that ruins the game. Legendary coaches don't do cheesy bullshit.

[K...]

Tanking without a legit excuse, like David Robinson's injury, is cheesy horseshit that ruins the game. Legendary coaches don't do cheesy bullshit.

Good opinion,.but the spurs were joined by houston, Detroit, and dallas as blatant tanks. And also it would be inconsistent to say spurs should not tank but derozan and LMA were a true team to build around.

This board is 100% pro tank and 50%anti derozan LMA

[scott]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.

Larry Brown led the 1988-89 Spurs to a 21-61 record.

Rick Carlisle led the 2017-18 Mavericks to a 24-58 record.

Pat Riley led the 2007-2008 Heat to a 15-67 record.

Red Auerbach coached when there were like 8 teams in the league.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Good opinion,.but the spurs were joined by houston, Detroit, and dallas as blatant tanks. And also it would be inconsistent to say spurs should not tank but derozan and LMA were a true team to build around.

This board is 100% pro tank and 50%anti derozan LMA
Fuck Derozan.

We needed to find a way to satisfy Kawhi at all costs and keep him healthy and keep him in the mood to play basketball, I don't care how many hookers, personal full body massages, and happy endings it took... but we needed to keep him. Also, he should have been the 2017 MVP.

I'm on the boat that it's 99.7% Poop's fault that we lost our franchise player that we drafted and developed into a legit NBA superstar, and no one is going to convince me otherwise. It's a hill I will die on, if necessary.

Probably the last year I'll ever watch basketball was 16-17 unless the NBA takes the Mack time traveler back a decade or more. Carry and Silver forever ruined the league.

[exstatic]

Fuck Derozan.

We needed to find a way to satisfy Kawhi at all costs and keep him healthy and keep him in the mood to play basketball, I don't care how many hookers, personal full body massages, and happy endings it took... but we needed to keep him. Also, he should have been the 2017 MVP.

I'm on the boat that it's 99.7% Poop's fault that we lost our franchise player that we drafted and developed into a legit NBA superstar, and no one is going to convince me otherwise. It's a hill I will die on, if necessary.

Probably the last year I'll ever watch basketball was 16-17 unless the NBA takes the Mack time traveler back a decade or more. Carry and Silver forever ruined the league.

He was always going to LA. Toronto won the title, and he took less money to walk away and play in LA. Thats the proof.

[tonight...you]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.
Lol. Learn your history before talking.

[TD 21]

Obviously landing Tim played a huge role in the organization being as successful as it was, but time has proven time and again that, no matter how good you are, you need talent and structure around you in order to win. In that sense, the Spurs drafted and developed Tony, Manu and Kawhi, signed or acquired role players like Bruce Bowen, Robert Horry, Danny Green, Boris Diaw, etc., and got them into a cohesive team that remained a contender for over a decade and a half. That's not just balls bouncing the right way. Are there other coaches that, in similar circumstances could have had similar success? Probably, but most wouldn't (and don't). That doesn't mean I blindly adhere to everything the FO does, but chances are any of us would be lucky to be half as successful at any one thing as Pop has been at his craft.

Again, who said you didn't need those things to succeed and why don't the all time player/core get the majority of the credit for being a cohesive team with unmatched longevity?

- Presti (and Auerbach, the then no longer officially president/GM, who called an audible and went with Forte because he played at UNC) played a major role in drafting Parker.
- Ginobili was an all time fluke (57th pick, who was developed by the time he came over).
- Scumbag was supposedly their third choice behind Valanciunas and Thompson
- Diaw signed in large part because he was Parker's best friend and the team had a gaping hole at PF.

I will give PATFO credit for Bowen and maybe not the invention, but popularization of the 3 and D archetype.

Again, this mostly comes down to luck. It's not a knock on Pop, it's just the reality.



If Pop wasn't this good as some of the morons here are stating..he wouldn't have been the root for the coaching tree that has spread branches across the league as has happened today. Rhe best achievers are institution builders. Pop is the best among them.

Owners are seduced by success and thought magic pixie dust was in the air here because the unparalleled longevity wasn't fronted by 30 ppg freak athlete big guard/wing or overwhelmingly physically dominant big.



Well your complete lack of general awareness and understanding of context is amusing because it’s genuine, unlike most who are just trolling.

:lmao That's the antithesis of me. You're just a blind homer/apologist, who like the clown above, every time you see something that's not glowing about PATFO, you spin it into criticism and get upset.

[tonight...you]

Again, who said you didn't need those things to succeed and why don't the all time player/core get the majority of the credit for being a cohesive team with unmatched longevity?

- Presti (and Auerbach, the then no longer officially president/GM, who called an audible and went with Forte because he played at UNC) played a major role in drafting Parker.
- Ginobili was an all time fluke (57th pick, who was developed by the time he came over).
- Scumbag was supposedly their third choice behind Valanciunas and Thompson
- Diaw signed in large part because he was Parker's best friend and the team had a gaping hole at PF.

I will give PATFO credit for Bowen and maybe not the invention, but popularization of the 3 and D archetype.

Again, this mostly comes down to luck. It's not a knock on Pop, it's just the reality.




Owners are seduced by success and thought magic pixie dust was in the air here because the unparalleled longevity wasn't fronted by 30 ppg freak athlete big guard/wing or overwhelmingly physically dominant big.




:lmao That's the antithesis of me. You're just a blind homer/apologist, who like the clown above, every time you see something that's not glowing about PATFO, you spin it into criticism and get upset.
Pop would be the first to agree with you.

[lefty]

Mike Brown is now #2 all-time among Sacramento Kings coaches in Playoff Wins

1. Rick Adelman 34-35
2. Mike Brown 2-0
3. Garry St. Jean 1-3
4. Phil Johnson 0-3

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sacramento_Kings_head_coaches

[heyheymymy]

was seeing how Doc was Jacque Vaughns coach during the 2003 ECQF

lol now it's Cock vs. Jacque

[Gagnrath]

Fuck Derozan.

We needed to find a way to satisfy Kawhi at all costs and keep him healthy and keep him in the mood to play basketball, I don't care how many hookers, personal full body massages, and happy endings it took... but we needed to keep him. Also, he should have been the 2017 MVP.

I'm on the boat that it's 99.7% Poop's fault that we lost our franchise player that we drafted and developed into a legit NBA superstar, and no one is going to convince me otherwise. It's a hill I will die on, if necessary.

Probably the last year I'll ever watch basketball was 16-17 unless the NBA takes the Mack time traveler back a decade or more. Carry and Silver forever ruined the league.

I am somewhere in the middle on this, I feel like somewhere in this mess Pop who obviously still gets along with Leonard goes to Khawhi with his Uncle and says, something along the Gist of "Look if the Spurs ring and you're MVP we can get you to LA with a supermax contract in hand." I know that the LA media Market means that it's only about 20 million extra in your pocket over the next few years but 20 million is nice.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I am somewhere in the middle on this, I feel like somewhere in this mess Pop who obviously still gets along with Leonard goes to Khawhi with his Uncle and says, something along the Gist of "Look if the Spurs ring and you're MVP we can get you to LA with a supermax contract in hand." I know that the LA media Market means that it's only about 20 million extra in your pocket over the next few years but 20 million is nice.
And after the California state income tax rake of 13.3%, compared to Texas's 0%, paired with the difference in Kawhi's LAC contract compared to the supermax the Spurs could have offered him because we drafted him, and Kawhi no doubt lost out financially by going there :lol but hey, what's 20-30 million difference when you're worth between 200m-300m?

[lefty]

:lol Bud

[Ariel]

The Bucks needed an unconscious Middleton to get over the hump. He was their 2nd best player, and after last season's injury, he's been a far cry from his glory days. Add an injured Giannis, a roster that isn't as deep or talented as other contenders, and good old Bud had it uphill all along.

[lefty]

The Bucks needed an unconscious Middleton to get over the hump. He was their 2nd best player, and after last season's injury, he's been a far cry from his glory days. Add an injured Giannis, a roster that isn't as deep or talented as other contenders, and good old Bud had it uphill all along.

still should have called a timeout

[JuneJive]

Bud shat the bed. Big time.

[slick'81]

Bud could of used mamu

[JPB]

This thread is pure copium.

Any coach can consistently win with elite hall of fame talent. A truly legendary coach, on the other hand, doesn't go 22-60 no matter who are the five on the court. A Larry Brown, Rick Carlisle, Pat Riley, Red Auerbach type would have led the 2023 Spurs to roughly 44-38 and at least a playoff berth.

This thread and the entire upstairs stinks of copium.


Larry Brown led the 1988-89 Spurs to a 21-61 record.

Rick Carlisle led the 2017-18 Mavericks to a 24-58 record.

Pat Riley led the 2007-2008 Heat to a 15-67 record.

Red Auerbach coached when there were like 8 teams in the league.

Is this clueless guy hidden under a rock right now? Rarely seen somebody so badly exposed for his ignorance and hate.

[MultiTroll]

Bud shat the bed. Big time.
Doesn't foul ahead by 4 with 10 seconds to go. Gives up trey instead. :drunk

With 2 seconds left, during timeout pulls Brook Lopez for Bonnerton. :drunk
Heat inbound pass goes right near the basket and Bulter completes layup. Catching the oop and shooting it over.....Bonnerton. :drunk

OT
This is their final play:
https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id= (https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=36300667)

Gayson Allen dribbles out the clock vs hoisting a wide open 14 footer.

https://www.businessinsider.in/photo/85186823/Master.jpg

[rjv]

still should have called a timeout

it's 50/50. just this past weekend, we saw the kings mike brown call a timeout when fox had the ball in his hands and the opportunity to catch the warriors off balance but instead brown elects to call the timeout and that gave GS the chance to double team fox who had to pass to barnes and the rest is history. the problem was allen just had a total meltdown and didn't even get a shot off. bud made plenty of coaching mistakes in the 4th quarter and OT but that was probably the least egregious,

[MultiTroll]

Kings super low BBIQ 4th qtr of Game 5 to go from 2-0 to down 3-2.

Doubt Potatoe Head will do anything differently the rest of the way but hey, surprise us.
Get the wine ready.

[Ocotillo]

I am not sure what Buck's management thinks but the fans want Bud's head in Milwaukee. Maybe those folks who want him to replace Pop might have a shot.

[libertarian4321]

Right wing nutcases are even worse when it comes to not knowing what they're talking about and basing most of their political beliefs on their religion as well as racism.

I'm an atheist in a 27-year interracial marriage with a mixed race family, so that was kind of a big swing and miss.

Also, Libertarians are pro-marjuana legalization, pro-choice, support open borders, pro-gay marriage, against politics based on religion, for less military adventurism, against militarization of the police, and many other non "right-wing" policies. We are classical liberals, not "right wing conservatives."

And I still think Pop is wildly overrated, and that Tim Duncan was the primary driver of the Spurs championships.