2024-2025 Season Spurs Tax Distribution

[LkrFan]

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How will this really affect the Spurs? CIA Pop tricked off a lot of talent over the years. Those days appear to be over. Good :tu

[K...]

Great more overpaid vets on one year salary

[exstatic]

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How will this really affect the Spurs? CIA Pop tricked off a lot of talent over the years. Those days appear to be over. Good :tu

This is the first time we've ever been under the floor, so nobody was tricked over the years, and the players on this year's squad will be happy, since they all get extra $$.

[LkrFan]

This is the first time we've ever been under the floor, so nobody was tricked over the years, and the players on this year's squad will be happy, since they all get extra $$.

Lonnie was worth developing IMO. Y'all kicked him to the curb to help treat your symptoms of Wembyitis. :lol

Me thinks this new quirk in the CBA will help curtail that a bit.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

*Yawn*

[Leetonidas]

Lonnie was worth developing IMO. Y'all kicked him to the curb to help treat your symptoms of Wembyitis. :lol

Me thinks this new quirk in the CBA will help curtail that a bit.

Idk if they have league pass in Tijuana but if you watched our games for the first four years of his career you'd realize he just wasn't great. High level athlete with a streaky jumper, low IQ, and lack of fire. Those things aren't changing. He's also terrible on defense

[baseline bum]

Lonnie was worth developing IMO. Y'all kicked him to the curb to help treat your symptoms of Wembyitis. :lol


Dude can't even get minutes over Austin Reeves, Troy Brown Jr, and Dennis Schroeder. How is he supposed to beat out Devin Vassell and Keldon Johnson for minutes? Wanker is a scrub and his NBA career is nearly over. Probably will be in China in a couple of years.

[The Truth #6]

Is this thread in honor of the IRS deadline or something? Exciting stuff!

[Mr. Body]

Lonnie was worth developing IMO. Y'all kicked him to the curb to help treat your symptoms of Wembyitis. :lol

Me thinks this new quirk in the CBA will help curtail that a bit.

The Lonnie Walker you're not even playing?

[K...]

The truth about lonnie is that he wanted to leave, bet on himself and make $$$. Hes a gunner and thats his role. The spurs had primo, wedtleyland branahm to fight lonnie in minutes. The lakers needed shooting way more and thats the story

[exstatic]

Lonnie was worth developing IMO. Y'all kicked him to the curb to help treat your symptoms of Wembyitis. :lol

Me thinks this new quirk in the CBA will help curtail that a bit.

Why did he barely play after New Years in LA, then?

[LkrFan]

Why did he barely play after New Years in LA, then?

Hillbilly Kobe is better. 3asely too.

[LkrFan]

Idk if they have league pass in Tijuana but if you watched our games for the first four years of his career you'd realize he just wasn't great. High level athlete with a streaky jumper, low IQ, and lack of fire. Those things aren't changing. He's also terrible on defense
:lol

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Sí, ¡lo tenía! ¡Pero solo vi a Los Angeles Lakers para ser honesto! :lol

[LkrFan]

Dude can't even get minutes over Austin Reeves, Troy Brown Jr, and Dennis Schroeder. How is he supposed to beat out Devin Vassell and Keldon Johnson for minutes? Wanker is a scrub and his NBA career is nearly over. Probably will be in China in a couple of years.

Austin would start for your Spurs. ;)

[LkrFan]

The Lonnie Walker you're not even playing?

Yup :lol

[LkrFan]

*Yawn*

C'mon Mr. Ed :lol

[LkrFan]

The Lonnie Walker you're not even playing?

I mean, the Westbrick experiment was so bad, Lonnie was our 4th best player. Now he get more DNP-CDs than any player I can think of. But when he comes in he's instant offense.

[scott]

Future headline from September 2024:

The San Antonio Spurs have announced they are signing Gorgui Dieng to a 1-year, $18MM contract, fully guaranteed.

[exstatic]

I mean, the Westbrick experiment was so bad, Lonnie was our 4th best player. Now he get more DNP-CDs than any player I can think of. But when he comes in he's instant offense.

For both teams…

[baseline bum]

Austin would start for your Spurs. ;)

Maybe the G-League Austin Spurs.

[baseline bum]

Future headline from September 2024:

The San Antonio Spurs have announced they are signing Gorgui Dieng to a 1-year, $18MM contract, fully guaranteed.

LOL Dieng getting the AJ treatment

[LkrFan]

For both teams…

:lol

[LkrFan]

Future headline from September 2024:

The San Antonio Spurs have announced they are signing Gorgui Dieng to a 1-year, $18MM contract, fully guaranteed.

Gimme dat :hungry: :lol

[lefty20]

Austin would start for your Spurs. ;)

That's AustHIM to you, good sir.

[DPG21920]

Makes loading up Vassell with a large first year or two is no biggie since spurs “spending” that money either way (via both meeting floor + getting tax distribution or not)

[scott]

Makes loading up Vassell with a large first year or two is no biggie since spurs “spending” that money either way (via both meeting floor + getting tax distribution or not)

Are there any kind of restrictions that govern much a contract can be front loaded? It should be in a player best interest to front load their deals as much as possible - and if there are no limitations it would allow teams in a position like the Spurs to really take advantage of the situation. Say we gave Devin the same 4/80 that Keldon got, but it was structured 35/25/15/5. This could help the Spurs meet the floor but also make Devin a HUGE trade asset in years 3 and 4 (or a huge boon to the Spurs cap if the Spurs were contenders by then). I don't know if there are restrictions on this or if this messes up the extension scale, etc.

[DPG21920]

Are there any kind of restrictions that govern much a contract can be front loaded? It should be in a player best interest to front load their deals as much as possible - and if there are no limitations it would allow teams in a position like the Spurs to really take advantage of the situation. Say we gave Devin the same 4/80 that Keldon got, but it was structured 35/25/15/5. This could help the Spurs meet the floor but also make Devin a HUGE trade asset in years 3 and 4 (or a huge boon to the Spurs cap if the Spurs were contenders by then). I don't know if there are restrictions on this or if this messes up the extension scale, etc.

There are…contracts can be declining, but just like raises year to year there’s a scale so you can’t do what you just mentioned IIRC

[scott]

There are…contracts can be declining, but just like raises year to year there’s a scale so you can’t do what you just mentioned IIRC

Looks like it's the same 8%/5% (Bird/non-Bird) rules as increases.

[DPG21920]

Looks like it's the same 8%/5% (Bird/non-Bird) rules as increases.

Yup! And point remains - Devins first 2 years are basically “free” for Spurs. They have a floor to meet and so all that money going to DEV would be paid whether he is or not. It’s a great spot to be in IMO, since you lock him up and it doesn’t cost you any money you weren’t already accounting for.

[ambchang]

Oh look, the league making up a rule specifically to penalize the spurs, again.

[LkrFan]

That's AustHIM to you, good sir.

:lol

[exstatic]

Oh look, the league making up a rule specifically to penalize the spurs, again.

They were mad that we held out strong against free cap space rental for the LAL. Kept them in the shitter most of the year until Utah foolishly took Westchuck off their hands.

[Seventyniner]

They were mad that we held out strong against free cap space rental for the LAL. Kept them in the shitter most of the year until Utah foolishly took Westchuck off their hands.

Will this new rule prevent teams from holding huge cap space through the season like that? Or will teams find a way to get their team salary up to the minimum just before the deadline if they can't get a good deal? Something like signing a no-name player to a deal big enough to reach the floor? That would piss off the rest of the roster, though, cause it would deny them the extra money they could have gotten if the team had stayed below the floor.

[scott]

Will this new rule prevent teams from holding huge cap space through the season like that? Or will teams find a way to get their team salary up to the minimum just before the deadline if they can't get a good deal? Something like signing a no-name player to a deal big enough to reach the floor? That would piss off the rest of the roster, though, cause it would deny them the extra money they could have gotten if the team had stayed below the floor.

At least per the tweet, it's based on the first day of the regular season. However, I wonder if there are some tricks that could be played to hit the floor to start the season, then dip below it in order to be a cap space rental facility.

[K...]

How does this benefit the league though?.thw problem is over leveraging by teams for marginal playoff hopes. This Won't stop tanking

[scott]

How does this benefit the league though?.thw problem is over leveraging by teams for marginal playoff hopes. This Won't stop tanking

At the very least, it puts some teeth behind the idea of a salary floor. Right now, the floor is kind of meaningless - you go under it and all your players get a bonus, while you can still collect tax distributions, which really provides teams no incentive to even to try and reach the floor. Certainly the argument can be had of whether there should even be a floor, but if you agree on the general concept of the floor then I think this does put some accountability to it. Just my $0.02

[pad300]

At least per the tweet, it's based on the first day of the regular season. However, I wonder if there are some tricks that could be played to hit the floor to start the season, then dip below it in order to be a cap space rental facility.

The obvious thought would be an unguaranteed contract for a high salary (or a contract with a guarantee date a couple of weeks after the start of the season), that you could cut after the start of the season...

[exstatic]

Will this new rule prevent teams from holding huge cap space through the season like that? Or will teams find a way to get their team salary up to the minimum just before the deadline if they can't get a good deal? Something like signing a no-name player to a deal big enough to reach the floor? That would piss off the rest of the roster, though, cause it would deny them the extra money they could have gotten if the team had stayed below the floor.

You can hold cap space, just not to the point where you stay below the salary floor when the season starts.

[Seventyniner]

You can hold cap space, just not to the point where you stay below the salary floor when the season starts.

Ok, that kills the plan of trying to hoard too much cap space (enough to go below the floor) through the trade deadline.

[exstatic]

Ok, that kills the plan of trying to hoard too much cap space (enough to go below the floor) through the trade deadline.

Yup. but you can hold some.

I think they thought they would strong arm teams like SA and Utah into doing bad deals early to help the LAs of the world, but all this will do is shut off those trades after the beginning of the season. We really didn't even use much of our cap room, and LA got one shot at a lightly protected FRP, not that great of a deal. The LAs of the world will just be SOL after the season starts.