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Extra Stout
04-27-2023, 02:12 PM
Wiley Peck
Alfredrick Hughes
Dwayne Schintzius
Livio Jean-Charles
Josh Primo
James Anderson

In no particular order

Big Empty
04-27-2023, 02:17 PM
Luka

Ignazzz
04-27-2023, 02:24 PM
Mulitinov

heyheymymy
04-27-2023, 02:25 PM
Luka

John B
04-27-2023, 02:33 PM
Consider that majority of Spurs picks were late first round, then compare that to the rest of the league which most don’t even go pass 4 year in the league. While Spurs draftees like George Hill, CoJo, Kyle, Lonnie, White, Murray still playing, and even playing significant minutes with contenders. I’d say Spurs picked well.

Mr. Body
04-27-2023, 02:39 PM
Consider that majority of Spurs picks were late first round, then compare that to the rest of the league which most don’t even go pass 4 year in the league. While Spurs draftees like George Hill, CoJo, Kyle, Lonnie, White, Murray still playing, and even playing significant minutes with contenders. I’d say Spurs picked well.

Agree. It's barely worth mentioning, especially compared to how devastating some teams' draft history has been.

GAustex
04-27-2023, 02:42 PM
Anderson I think may have been good but he broke his foot

rjv
04-27-2023, 02:43 PM
didn't someone spike the nachos when the spurs picked hughes?

Extra Stout
04-27-2023, 02:46 PM
Primo is the only lottery pick that busted. He was pretty bad. After the draft, observers thought the Spurs reached. He never showed anything in the league, nobody else wants to take a flyer on his alleged talent, and his enduring legacy is going to be letting his penis hang out during therapy sessions.

John B
04-27-2023, 02:46 PM
Agree. It's barely worth mentioning, especially compared to how devastating some teams' draft history has been.

I mean if we are going to nitpick, I’d put that English Center who had guard handles, did not even play NBA minutes. What’s his name?

TXstbobcat
04-27-2023, 02:51 PM
I mean if we are going to nitpick, I’d put that English Center who had guard handles, did not even play NBA minutes. What’s his name?

Ryan Richards

John B
04-27-2023, 02:58 PM
I mean if we are going to nitpick, I’d put that English Center who had guard handles, did not even play NBA minutes. What’s his name?

Ryan Richards. But never mind he was 49th pick. But I kept waiting for him to come. He’s like a modern day big.

Then there’s Livio, 28th pick in 2013. Only played in Austin.

TXstbobcat
04-27-2023, 03:05 PM
Ryan Richards. But never mind he was 49th pick. But I kept waiting for him to come. He’s like a modern day big.

Then there’s Livio, 28th pick in 2013. Only played in Austin.

All I can remember about Richards was playing on the Summer League team in 2013.

spurraider21
04-27-2023, 03:16 PM
i dont know most of the people on that list. but primo was a top 10 pick so by default its him

exstatic
04-27-2023, 04:01 PM
Primo is the only lottery pick that busted. He was pretty bad. After the draft, observers thought the Spurs reached. He never showed anything in the league, nobody else wants to take a flyer on his alleged talent, and his enduring legacy is going to be letting his penis hang out during therapy sessions.

Alfrederick Hughes has entered the chat...

Mr. Body
04-27-2023, 04:07 PM
i dont know most of the people on that list. but primo was a top 10 pick so by default its him

Pick 12.

Mr. Body
04-27-2023, 04:08 PM
Ryan Richards. But never mind he was 49th pick. But I kept waiting for him to come. He’s like a modern day big.

Then there’s Livio, 28th pick in 2013. Only played in Austin.

Honestly the Spurs have hit so many times in those late first round picks, it's insane. Missing one is okay.

Extra Stout
04-27-2023, 04:10 PM
Alfrederick Hughes has entered the chat...
There were only seven lottery picks in 1985.

spurraider21
04-27-2023, 05:23 PM
Pick 12.
ah good call. was a lottery pick, just not top 10

Leetonidas
04-27-2023, 05:45 PM
Easily Primo considering where he was drafted and how quickly he was waived due to self inflicted reasons. Not to mention he never really looked that great to begin with

CGD
04-27-2023, 06:15 PM
Primo thread!

Dex
04-27-2023, 06:43 PM
Gotta be Primo.

#12 pick, and a controversial one because there were several good picks still on the board.

Drafted because of his "high character"...subsequently got cut in his 2nd year due to sexual misconduct while still collecting $8M from the Spurs, and so far doesn't seem to be drawing interest from any other team.

Never really impressed or grew as a player. Averaged 5.9 points in his career, or 10.8 Per 36 (to this date)

timtonymanu
04-27-2023, 06:46 PM
Primo is the only lottery pick that busted. He was pretty bad. After the draft, observers thought the Spurs reached. He never showed anything in the league, nobody else wants to take a flyer on his alleged talent, and his enduring legacy is going to be letting his penis hang out during therapy sessions.

The wording of that first sentence :lol

baseline bum
04-27-2023, 07:00 PM
Primo is the only lottery pick that busted. He was pretty bad. After the draft, observers thought the Spurs reached. He never showed anything in the league, nobody else wants to take a flyer on his alleged talent, and his enduring legacy is going to be letting his penis hang out during therapy sessions.

He still had a way better career than Alfredrick the Great though. His career highlight was running his Benz up the embankment on 281.

baseline bum
04-27-2023, 07:18 PM
didn't someone spike the nachos when the spurs picked hughes?

Missed drafting that pedo Warm Karl by a coin flip.

exstatic
04-27-2023, 07:51 PM
There were only seven lottery picks in 1985.

Karl Malone was picked outside the lottery.

Spurs Homer
04-27-2023, 08:15 PM
Timmy

because instead of 5 rings -
he should have had 8 or 9!

and because I am a greedy spurs fan!

heyheymymy
04-27-2023, 09:09 PM
Primo is a good choice in this poll for being 12 and not really blossoming plus the fact Sengun was available regardless of how you rate Sen factoring in the scandal and knowing you'd have Sen right now instead of nothing to show for it at all.

But kinda feels like Primo while def kinda sucking on court was a bad pick more for the scandal and so in the more basketball sense I think Luka Samanic is the better choice for this poll. Luka sucked at basketball straight up.

At 19 he is early enough to expect more. Yeah Livio-Charles but at 28 you start to expect much less and lots of those late FRPs flop.

The other aspect about Luka is almost costing ourselves KJ not that KJ is that great but you pick Luka at 19, he sucks, and if that cost you someone like KJ it would've added insult to injury and even though it didn't happen the risk of it added to the debacle of Luka's selection.

heyheymymy
04-27-2023, 09:13 PM
TL;DR I feel like Luka Samanic is the perfect crossroads of high enough selection + shitty player that showed nothing + better shit on the board you almost cost yourself

SPURt
04-27-2023, 09:49 PM
I remember people being pretty disappointed with Cadillac Anderson, but Primo has to be the pick. Primo didn’t bust because he couldn’t play basketball. He busted for walking his meat hog in front of unwilling eyes. He might be in the conversation as one of the worsts busts in league history. Len Bias is less ridiculous of a bust.

The Truth #6
04-27-2023, 10:15 PM
Alfrederick Hughes I’d say. Didn’t he get cut before his rookie season started?

SPURt
04-28-2023, 12:18 AM
Alfrederick Hughes I’d say. Didn’t he get cut before his rookie season started?
He played 68 games for the Spurs

poopbox
04-28-2023, 12:26 AM
It's Primo and its not even close.

He was drafted on character and is currently out of the league cause he can't keep his dick in his pants at work

Sugus
04-28-2023, 06:53 AM
Yeah, Primo without a doubt. Sad story all around. Sexual trauma is no joke.

Maddog
04-28-2023, 07:38 AM
I would say Primo based on purely objective measures
The highest pick who then played less than seasons worth of games.
However, several players before him have had rocky starts and don't look to have long term significant long term impact.

spursparker9
04-28-2023, 08:03 AM
Luis Scola!

Drom John
04-28-2023, 09:47 AM
Played in the NBA, 1st rounders with most negative B-R career VORP:
-7.8 Greg Anderson (-1.1 as Spur)
-1.5 Dwayne Schintzius (-0.3 as Spur)
-1.3 Blake Wesley (but too early to not improve)
-1.2 Malaki Branham (same as Wesley)
-1.1 Lonnie Walker IV (-1.3 as Spur, so positive VORP as Laker)

Played in NBA, highest pick with negative B-R VORP
9 Jeremy Sochan (but too early to not improve)
12 Joshua Primo
14 Alfredrick Hughes
15 Reggie Johnson
18 Lonnie Walker IV

Highest draftee who didn't play in the NBA
26 Nikola Milutinov
28 Livio-Jean Charles
41 Chris Carrawell
44 Henry Williams
49 Ryan Richards

First rounders playing fewest games
37 Blake Wesley (expect not to be on this list next year)
43 Luka Samanac (may move off this list)
52 Wiley Peck
54 Joshua Primo
56 Jeremy Sochan (needs to be healthier)

baseline bum
04-28-2023, 12:23 PM
I remember people being pretty disappointed with Cadillac Anderson

Really? I don't remember that at all. Was a pretty productive player who was the last pick of the first round, so I don't remember any kind of huge expectations for him or anything.

SPURt
04-28-2023, 12:32 PM
Really? I don't remember that at all. Was a pretty productive player who was the last pick of the first round, so I don't remember any kind of huge expectations for him or anything.
I stand corrected, maybe I’m just remembering the general feeling around the Spurs after Ice but before the Admiral. The Spurs got him in the Mychal Thompson trade, who was past 30. Really looked like he was doing good until he was included in the Alvin Robertson-Terry Cummings trade. Did he get injured after that?

SupremeGuy
04-28-2023, 02:06 PM
Damn man James Anderson looked legit until he got hurt.

Russ
04-28-2023, 02:17 PM
Is Lonnie Walker somehow not eligible? (Not that he would win, but it's insulting to him to be so recent and yet so overlooked.)

exstatic
04-28-2023, 03:51 PM
Is Lonnie Walker somehow not eligible? (Not that he would win, but it's insulting to him to be so recent and yet so overlooked.)

Too soon. It may take years before some realize how bad he was. Counting stats don’t tell that story.

Thomas82
04-28-2023, 06:40 PM
I'm torn between Alfredrick Hughes and Josh Primo.

Maddog
04-28-2023, 07:15 PM
I'm torn between Alfredrick Hughes and Josh Primo.

It's all relative
Hughes was bad
Yeah Karl Malone was taken the pick before, but there were two players before Malone who barely played in the NBA.
Yeah Dumars and Terry Porter were taken after Hughes, a lot of mediocre players taken before.
You're going to whiff periodically on draft picks.

Primo probably the biggest given TO DATE multiple serviceable players taken after
Nothing like a Portland Trailblazer big man whiff

Mr. Body
04-28-2023, 09:39 PM
Lonnie Walker isn't really a bust, but there were a number of good players picked after him.

Ed Helicopter Jones
05-03-2023, 10:48 AM
He still had a way better career than Alfredrick the Great though. His career highlight was running his Benz up the embankment on 281.

As far as busts go, it's Hughes by a mile in terms of worthlessness.

Leetonidas
05-03-2023, 10:53 AM
I don't think guys like Walker/Samanic/Anderson/etc can be considered busts when they were picked in the back half of the 1st round. The entire draft is a crapshoot after the first 10 picks or so most years anyway

Ocotillo
05-03-2023, 01:38 PM
I don't think guys like Walker/Samanic/Anderson/etc can be considered busts when they were picked in the back half of the 1st round. The entire draft is a crapshoot after the first 10 picks or so most years anyway

And while they are not setting the world on fire, Walker and Anderson are still in the league and Samanic is hanging on by his fingernails.

Leetonidas
05-03-2023, 04:21 PM
And while they are not setting the world on fire, Walker and Anderson are still in the league and Samanic is hanging on by his fingernails.

I meant James Anderson, not Slow-Mo :lol

TD 21
05-03-2023, 04:52 PM
A bit off topic, but most either became or looked to be in the process of becoming more or less as projected.

Too much emphasis on perceived "culture" fits and confidence in player development staff and not enough on analytics, which correctly forecasted many.

GAustex
05-03-2023, 05:59 PM
I meant James Anderson, not Slow-Mo :lol

James Anderson broke his foot it is not fair to call him a bust
He was doing good before the injury

GAustex
05-03-2023, 06:00 PM
Biggest bust has got to be the pervert Primo

tim_duncan_fan
05-03-2023, 07:15 PM
James Anderson could play, he just got hurt.

offset formation
05-05-2023, 01:49 PM
Missed drafting that pedo Warm Karl by a coin flip.

Bwahahshaha...Warm Karl?! Lol.

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05-05-2023, 01:50 PM
Gotta be Luka or Josh.

cd98
05-05-2023, 01:52 PM
Easily Josh Primo. He was chosen earlier than the other players and while he was mediocre on the court, the fact that they had to cut him from the roster after extended his contract because he kept exposing himself makes him worse than any of the other players.

itzsoweezee
05-05-2023, 07:59 PM
Even ignoring the fact that they had to cut him, Primo was picked about 10 spots too high. Just a terrible decision all around

NickiRasgo
05-05-2023, 11:10 PM
I don't think it's fair to call draft bust outside lottery so it's Primo for me.