Official 2nd Round Draft Pick Thread

[BatManu20]

Colby Jones out of Xavier just feels like a Spur to me. 6’6 combo guard who can play both on and off ball. Does a little bit of everything and he’s an improved outside shooter. Not a great athlete, but very high IQ player. Just turned 21 last month so he’s older and we don’t really need him with Devin, Malaki, and Blake needing so many minutes already, but his game is just very Spursy. He’s currently projected late 1st — early 2nd.


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[Degoat]

Colby Jones out of Xavier just feels like a Spur to me. 6’6 combo guard who can play both on and off ball. Does a little bit of everything and he’s an improved outside shooter. Not a great athlete, but very high IQ player. Just turned 21 last month so he’s older and we don’t really need him with Devin, Malaki, and Blake needing so many minutes already, but his game is just very Spursy. He’s currently projected late 1st — early 2nd.


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Ive been thinking the exact same thing! He has spur written all over him. I think he could play some PG too

[RobinsontoDuncan]

I think Sidy Cissoko has lead guard potential. He or Prosper would be my top choice w/ 33.

[rascal]

Colby Jones out of Xavier just feels like a Spur to me. 6’6 combo guard who can play both on and off ball. Does a little bit of everything and he’s an improved outside shooter. Not a great athlete, but very high IQ player. Just turned 21 last month so he’s older and we don’t really need him with Devin, Malaki, and Blake needing so many minutes already, but his game is just very Spursy. He’s currently projected late 1st — early 2nd.


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Why are "a Spur player" always associated with not a great athlete but has a high IQ. Desiring only these type of players and this type of thinking needs to stop.

[exstatic]

Why are "a Spur player" always associated with not a great athlete but has a high IQ. Desiring only these type of players and this type of thinking needs to stop.

Right, because that's never worked 5 times for us winning a championship in the past. You are FIXATED on JUST athleticism as a selection criteria.

[Mr. Body]

rascal lives in a bizarro universe where Stromile Swift won five championships and not Tim Duncan.

[Extra Stout]

Isn’t there more than one way to build a team, though? I get that “The Beautiful Game” relied a lot more on elite passing and shooting skill than athleticism, and that’s what people usually mean by being “Spursy,” but by 2016-17 with Kawhi as the superstar, that wasn’t true anymore. They relied upon his athleticism to create.

[Mr. Body]

Isn’t there more than one way to build a team, though? I get that “The Beautiful Game” relied a lot more on elite passing and shooting skill than athleticism, and that’s what people usually mean by being “Spursy,” but by 2016-17 with Kawhi as the superstar, that wasn’t true anymore. They relied upon his athleticism to create.

Kawhi didn't rely on his athleticism.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

I think Sidy Cissoko has lead guard potential. He or Prosper would be my top choice w/ 33.

He's exactly the type of guy they should be targeting IMO. Switchable 1-4 defensively with a high basketball IQ and motor. Since nobody really knows exactly what Wemby is going to be, I think it's difficult to try to cram a square positional fit into a round hole. Surrounding him with versatile defenders who can also make the right play on offense seems like a smart move. The knocks on Cissoko are his shooting, he's foul prone / over aggressive, and he's not a great one on one creator. I don't think his springer is that broken. The release looks okay, he's just inconsistent with his feet and his motion into the shot. Both of those are more easily fixable. And hopefully they can coach the foul prone stuff out of him. He's very young, though and you start to wonder how many of these long term prospects they have bandwidth for.

[exstatic]

Isn’t there more than one way to build a team, though? I get that “The Beautiful Game” relied a lot more on elite passing and shooting skill than athleticism, and that’s what people usually mean by being “Spursy,” but by 2016-17 with Kawhi as the superstar, that wasn’t true anymore. They relied upon his athleticism to create.

Kawhi's no step vert was 28"

[spurraider21]

theres more than vertical leaps when it comes to athleticism. parker was a great athlete. wasnt vertically explosive.

[exstatic]

theres more than vertical leaps when it comes to athleticism. parker was a great athlete. wasnt vertically explosive.

Kawhi wasn't nearly as quick as Parker, so we're back to the vertical plane vs. the horizontal. He didn't rely on athleticism. He was smart, fundamentally sound, and with those arms could get his shot off over almost everyone in the league. His hands also allowed him better ball control than most players while on the move.

[spurraider21]

Kawhi wasn't nearly as quick as Parker, so we're back to the vertical plane vs. the horizontal. He didn't rely on athleticism. He was smart, fundamentally sound, and with those arms could get his shot off over almost everyone in the league. His hands also allowed him better ball control than most players while on the move.
strength/length/coordination/flexibility are all part of athleticism imo

[Obstructed_View]

theres more than vertical leaps when it comes to athleticism. parker was a great athlete. wasnt vertically explosive.

Boris Diaw had a better vert than everyone. Don't remember him ever using it in a game.

[exstatic]

strength/length/coordination/flexibility are all part of athleticism imo

You can't teach longer arms or bigger hands. They're a physical measurement, and what you have is what you have. Athletic skills can be taught or improved.

[Extra Stout]

If the standard for a great NBA athlete is a LeBron or a Russell Westbrook or a Giannis, then I’ll concede the point and state that there are more NBA stars with great skill and OK athleticism than there are the converse.

[rascal]

theres more than vertical leaps when it comes to athleticism. parker was a great athlete. wasnt vertically explosive.

Parker was quick.

[spurraider21]

You can't teach longer arms or bigger hands. They're a physical measurement, and what you have is what you have. Athletic skills can be taught or improved.
i dont think "can be taught or improved" is a necessary characteristic of what constitutes athleticism

nobody really denies that shaq was a great athlete, at least in his earlier nba career. but if you took his leaping ability, quickness, etc, and put it on a guy who was 6'6 190, nobody would have said he was a great athlete. his physical measurements were a factor in what made him a great athlete. thats not to say every big 7 footer is automatically considered a great athlete. they arent. but its definitely part of the equation

[exstatic]

i dont think "can be taught or improved" is a necessary characteristic of what constitutes athleticism

nobody really denies that shaq was a great athlete, at least in his earlier nba career. but if you took his leaping ability, quickness, etc, and put it on a guy who was 6'6 190, nobody would have said he was a great athlete. his physical measurements were a factor in what made him a great athlete. thats not to say every big 7 footer is automatically considered a great athlete. they arent. but its definitely part of the equation

Shaq was actually very athletic. It wasn’t just his size that allowed him to dominate. Manute Bol was taller, and was by no means a great athlete. Measurements don’t make you athletic.

[spurraider21]

Shaq was actually very athletic. It wasn’t just his size that allowed him to dominate. Manute Bol was taller, and was by no means a great athlete. Measurements don’t make you athletic.


i dont think "can be taught or improved" is a necessary characteristic of what constitutes athleticism

nobody really denies that shaq was a great athlete, at least in his earlier nba career. but if you took his leaping ability, quickness, etc, and put it on a guy who was 6'6 190, nobody would have said he was a great athlete. his physical measurements were a factor in what made him a great athlete. thats not to say every big 7 footer is automatically considered a great athlete. they arent. but its definitely part of the equation

[Seventyniner]

Shaq was actually very athletic. It wasn’t just his size that allowed him to dominate. Manute Bol was taller, and was by no means a great athlete. Measurements don’t make you athletic.

Shaq was extremely skilled for his immense size. That combination was deadly. Having that same skillset at 6'6" 240 lbs isn't nearly as valuable.

Hopefully Wemby will be similar. His skillset on a 6'7" forward would be good, on a 7'4" big it's insane.

[rascal]

Shaq was actually very athletic. It wasn’t just his size that allowed him to dominate. Manute Bol was taller, and was by no means a great athlete. Measurements don’t make you athletic.

It was Shaq's size and strenght. He was tough to cover down low.

[tonight...you]

It was Shaq's size and strenght. He was tough to cover down low.
He also had amazing agility and balance which made his size and strength much more dangerous.
Mark Eaton was huge and strong, but he was nowhere near what Shaq was as a player.

[Drom John]

yahoo!Sports: 2023 NBA Mock Draft 9.0: Latest projections after NCAA withdrawal deadline and first-round risers
Krysten Peek, June 5, 2023


33. San Antonio Spurs: G Julian Strawther

Ht./Wt.: 6-7, 205 pounds | Class: Junior | Gonzaga


45. San Antonio Spurs: G Ricky Council IV

Ht./Wt.: 6-6, 205 pounds | Class: Junior | Arkansas

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Spurs should be able to get a fortuitous first round slip at 33. It will be interesting to watch what goes down.

[Drom John]

The Ringer: Mock Draft
Kevin O'Connor, 6.6


33
San Antonio Spurs
James Nnaji

Barcelona (ACB), Nigeria
James Nnaji
Center
Height 6'10" Weight 225
Age 18.8 Wingspan 7'7"

Points
pts 3.6 66.7 TS%
Rebounds
reb 2.2 15.5 REB%
Blocks
blk 0.6 6.4 BLK%
Steals
stl 0.2 1 STL%

San Antonio Spurs

After the Spurs select Wembanyama with the first pick, I’d be interested in seeing them take another big man. Nnaji’s beefy frame, rim protection, and verticality would provide an interesting contrast next to Wemby.

Long-armed big man who’s built like a tank and has the mentality to dominate on both ends of the paint.
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Clint Capela

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PLUSES

Defensively alters everything around the basket. He can thrive as a drop defender, and his skills translate into help situations. He’s aware when defending off the ball and does a great job of timing blocks using either hand. It’s not uncommon for him to rocket off the floor for swats.

Plays as strong as he looks. He battles on the post and fights relentlessly for rebounds, whether he boxes out or repositions himself to follow the trajectory of the ball.

Good defender in space. He can slide his feet laterally to stick with guards coming off screens or handoffs. If he needs to switch, he’s more than capable.

Sets strong fundamental screens with a wide frame, making it hard for opponents to fight through. He rolls hard and can handle lobs.

Excellent interior finisher who can dunk through contact but also shows natural instincts, making himself available with relocations and basket cuts. He can put the ball on the floor once or twice to score. Or he’ll use pump fakes to draw defenders before elevating.

With his adequate straight-line handle and ability to make high-low passes, he could have untapped upside in dribble handoffs.

MINUSES

He hasn’t played heavy minutes for Barcelona since he’s a teenager playing in the EuroLeague and Spanish league.

Commits avoidable mistakes, whether it’s making off-target passes or being called for moving screens.

Hackable free throw shooter who shoots around 50 percent. He also hasn’t shown the touch to hit shots outside the paint.




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San Antonio Spurs
Marcus Sasser

Houston, Senior
Marcus Sasser
Combo Guard
Height 6'1" Weight 196
Age 22.7 Wingspan 6'7"

Points
pts 16.8 59.7 TS%
3-point percentage
3P% 38.4 6.9 3PA/G
Assists
ast 3.1 1.6 TOV/G
Steals
stl 1.6 3.2 STL%

San Antonio Spurs

Sasser is a gritty guard who can provide scoring and hard-nosed defense.

Spark-plug scoring guard who also plays hard on defense.
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PLUSES

Hard-nosed perimeter defender who fights through screens by getting skinny and sticking to opposing ball handlers like glue. He’s a menace as an off-ball defender in passing lanes, too. When he needs to recover, he closes out with fundamentals. Effort is never a question.

Deep-range shooter, but he’s streaky and so far much more consistent off the catch. He has a smooth release and has no issues getting his shot off even under pressure. Though he lacks reps coming off screens, he shows an ability to hit 3s coming off movement.

Shifty ball handler with a low and tight handle. He loves using a high-arcing teardrop floater when he can’t get all the way to the rim. Though he needs to play like Damian Lillard for Houston, he’ll need to embrace his inner Patrick Beverley in the NBA.

MINUSES

Below-the-rim finisher who takes most of his shots away from the basket. He’s forced to settle for a lot of tough floaters or contested jumpers.

He’s not a true point guard. Rather than passing seamlessly off the bounce, he often picks up his dribble, which gets him into a bind when attacking the paint. And he lacks a lead playmaker’s vision, meaning he likely won’t be able to operate as a sixth man who can settle an offense.

Undersized guards are always at a disadvantage on defense, so he’ll be targeted by NBA offenses. It’s critical for him to add more value on offense outside of his scoring to regularly earn minutes at the next level.

[Drom John]

Fansided: 2023 NBA Mock Draft 9.0: Hornets, Rockets set dominoes in motion
Christopher Kline, 4 hours ago [AKA 7 June 2020]



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Rayan Rupert
G France
San Antonio Spurs

Rayan Rupert’s middling production in Australia’s NBL may have led some NBA front offices to sour on him, but he’s a fluid athlete who can handle the rock, hit 3s, and defend his tail off at 6-foot-7. The Spurs’ international scouting is world-renowned, as is their skill development program. This is the perfect low-risk, high-reward second round investment.



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Marcus Sasser
G Houston
San Antonio Spurs

Marcus Sasser gives San Antonio another source of shooting and shot creation in the backcourt. He’s one of the best pull-up marksmen on the board, but there are defensive concerns tied to his small frame.

[rjv]

rupert does appear to be dropping on several boards. he was once a late first round pick.

[mo7888]

I love these 2nd rd mocks as of late....

[BatManu20]

James Nnaji is an interesting prospect at only 18 years old. 20 years ago he would’ve been a top-10 pick. He projects as a great interior defender with his big, athletic 6’10 frame and freakish 7’5 wingspan.

He’s extremely mobile and fluid for his size, can switch onto quicker guards, and dunks everything around the basket. He shot a ridiculous 79% from inside the paint this season so he’s a strong finisher inside.

The problem is he has little to no offensive game whatsoever, hence why he’s being projected late in the First or early in the 2nd despite his physical capabilties. Can he develop a jump shot? Given his mechanics.. it’s not promising. He projects as an athletic Rim-running Center off the bench who can maybe start down the like in his career with more development. I think his best case scenario is a more athletic Robert Williams, which is still a good player tbh. Will be interesting to see if goes late First or if he’s available when we’re on the clock at 33 (assuming we don’t move up).


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[buttsR4rebounding]

Dariq Whitehead probably drops into the 2nd round since they announced he underwent a 2nd surgery on his foot this week. He could be a real steal in the 2nd round.

[spurraider21]

clint capela has carved out a really nice career despite basically just being a rim running defender. theres still a place for that in the NBA as long as he is fundamentally sound. kevon looney has been an impact player for the warriors and frankly was instrumental in their 2022 run.

the question is if you really want that out of a starter, of if you see him more as a reserve center on a small ball lineup to just be the one guy holding down the paint

[SpursFan86]

There are honestly a lot of really interesting names that could very well slide to #33. Even if we don’t end up trading into the 1st round seems like there’s a good chance we’ll snag someone to be excited about.*

*or we’ll just draft a random international player who wasn’t on anyone’s radar and ST will have a meltdown :lol

[Mr. Body]

James Nnaji is an interesting prospect at only 18 years old. 20 years ago he would’ve been a top-10 pick. He projects as a great interior defender with his big, athletic 6’10 frame and freakish 7’5 wingspan.

He’s extremely mobile and fluid for his size, can switch onto quicker guards, and dunks everything around the basket. He shot a ridiculous 79% from inside the paint this season so he’s a strong finisher inside.

The problem is he has little to no offensive game whatsoever, hence why he’s being projected late in the First or early in the 2nd despite his physical capabilties. Can he develop a jump shot? Given his mechanics.. it’s not promising. He projects as an athletic Rim-running Center off the bench who can maybe start down the like in his career with more development. I think his best case scenario is a more athletic Robert Williams, which is still a good player tbh. Will be interesting to see if goes late First or if he’s available when we’re on the clock at 33 (assuming we don’t move up).


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I see Nnaji from the late first round into the second.

Here's where the Spurs are in a very new situation. In the past, we'd get some second rounder or project guy and spend a lot of time following him. Now, we have a roster stuffed with young players already needing development. More to the point, we have even more first and second round picks upcoming. We have three of each next year!

So... what to do with a SRP? Can we really take a project like Nnaji when we have Mamukelashvili, we have Bassey, we have Barlow? Understandably, we're not tied to any of them, but there's a jam already. Is the philosophy to get players who are more ready to contribute right away? I don't know.

[mo7888]

I see Nnaji from the late first round into the second.

Here's where the Spurs are in a very new situation. In the past, we'd get some second rounder or project guy and spend a lot of time following him. Now, we have a roster stuffed with young players already needing development. More to the point, we have even more first and second round picks upcoming. We have three of each next year!

So... what to do with a SRP? Can we really take a project like Nnaji when we have Mamukelashvili, we have Bassey, we have Barlow? Understandably, we're not tied to any of them, but there's a jam already. Is the philosophy to get players who are more ready to contribute right away? I don't know.

Bassey or Barlow being on the roster shouldn't preclude us going after Nnaji if we feel he's the better prospect. I'm not saying the Fo thinks Nnaji is the better prospect, just that they aren't an impediment at all.

[Mr. Body]

Bassey or Barlow being on the roster shouldn't preclude us going after Nnaji if we feel he's the better prospect. I'm not saying the Fo thinks Nnaji is the better prospect, just that they aren't an impediment at all.

Hypothetically if the Nnaji-player is clearly a better prospect, sure, but if he's not there is cost to drafting him. Since he's not clearly better, then there's a problem drafting him.

[mo7888]

Hypothetically if the Nnaji-player is clearly a better prospect, sure, but if he's not there is cost to drafting him. Since he's not clearly better, then there's a problem drafting him.

That's the question that matters... is he clearly a better prospect? Personally, I'm not sure. I don't have him as a first rounder on my board, but I haven't put any time in comparing him to Bassey or Barlow. Off the cuff, I'd say he's the most athletic of the 3 and his wingspan is impressive. That's said, I don't really see anything that indicates that he'll ever be more than a rim runner on offense. Defensively he could be special...

[Mr. Body]

That's the question that matters... is he clearly a better prospect? Personally, I'm not sure. I don't have him as a first rounder on my board, but I haven't put any time in comparing him to Bassey or Barlow. Off the cuff, I'd say he's the most athletic of the 3 and his wingspan is impressive. That's said, I don't really see anything that indicates that he'll ever be more than a rim runner on offense. Defensively he could be special...

Well, this is my point, more or less. Previous years they might grab him just to have someone to develop. Now, their philosophies may have changed.

[exstatic]

I see Nnaji from the late first round into the second.

Here's where the Spurs are in a very new situation. In the past, we'd get some second rounder or project guy and spend a lot of time following him. Now, we have a roster stuffed with young players already needing development. More to the point, we have even more first and second round picks upcoming. We have three of each next year!

So... what to do with a SRP? Can we really take a project like Nnaji when we have Mamukelashvili, we have Bassey, we have Barlow? Understandably, we're not tied to any of them, but there's a jam already. Is the philosophy to get players who are more ready to contribute right away? I don't know.

That's why I advocate just selling the 19 SRPs we (currently) have in the next 7 drafts. We already have 13 FRPs in that same stretch of time. Of course, you don't do it all at once. If you haven't traded any FRPs before or during the draft for year 202X, sell all of the second rounders for that year. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[JPB]

I have Nnaji better than Barlowe. More physical, stronger, faster, more explosive, better shot blocker, more fire too. Barlowe seems loose and sleepy at times and lost on the floor. It should get better with time but his ceiling is lower than Nnaji for me who is a guy who can transmit his energy to his teammates and don't need anyone to have an impact on the game with a nice block or a put back dunk. Barlowe can only thrive throughout the system.

[TD 21]

Bassey or Barlow being on the roster shouldn't preclude us going after Nnaji if we feel he's the better prospect. I'm not saying the Fo thinks Nnaji is the better prospect, just that they aren't an impediment at all.

Generally, I'd agree. But with Wembanyama, Collins and Bassey (he may not be as athletic, but he's athletic enough) in tow, I wouldn't and I can't see them expending a virtual 1st on another C, especially a relatively common archetype that they probably already have covered.

There's a bunch of wings projected to be in that range who make more sense.

[exstatic]

I have Nnaji better than Barlowe. More physical, stronger, faster, more explosive, better shot blocker, more fire too. Barlowe seems loose and sleepy at times and lost on the floor. It should get better with time but his ceiling is lower than Nnaji for me who is a guy who can transmit his energy to his teammates and don't need anyone to have an impact on the game with a nice block or a put back dunk. Barlowe can only thrive throughout the system.

The thing about Barlow is that he has some sneaky potential that might be unlocked as a big wing. He already has a decent jumper. Nnaji is just a typical rim runner/shot blocker. I just can't get excited about the overall archetype or his tiny numbers. He also shoots 48% FTs on the only decent sample size in his stats.

[rjv]

Nnaji makes more sense at 44 but he'd be gone by then and i also don't see the spurs keeping their 44th. pass.

[BatManu20]

There are honestly a lot of really interesting names that could very well slide to #33. Even if we don’t end up trading into the 1st round seems like there’s a good chance we’ll snag someone to be excited about.*

*or we’ll just draft a random international player who wasn’t on anyone’s radar and ST will have a meltdown :lol

There will definitely be solid prospects available at 33 still. My gut tells me that whoever they take they plan on stashing in Austin for a couple years, so it’s likely a young foreigner like Sidy Cissoko if he’s still available or someone like that. But either way, this is a deeper draft when it comes to Guards and Wings, so there will be a good player or two still available at that point, and hopefully the Spurs make the right pick pick come that time if they don’t end up trading the pick.

[exstatic]

There will 100% be solid prospects available at 33 still. My gut tells me that whoever they take they plan on stashing in Austin for a couple years, so it’s likely a young foreigner like Sidy Cissoko or someone like that if they’re available. But either way, this is a deeper draft when it comes to Guards and Wings, so there will be a good player or two still available at that point, and hopefully the Spurs make the right pick pick come that time.

A second rounder would have to agree to a 2way or a gleague contract, the only ways to keep from using one of the 15 NBA roster spots. Before they drafted Tre Jones, he refused to consider a 2way, because he had been in a number of mocks as a FRP, and felt that someone would give him a roster spot if we wouldn't. The Spurs gave him a full NBA contract. Anyone who slips from the first to second round will probably want the same thing.

[BackHome]

This is very weak draft as far as depth at the PG and Center positions, but it is strong in Wings - just looking at our current roster there is easily two players who will not be back. There is probably 2 to 4 legit players I think who could fall to 33 and come in be an upgrade to the two players that will be leaving. As far as the 44 pick I agree sale as I don't even see anyone we could even be worth a draft and stash at this point

[CGD]

Serious question, how far apart at Rayan Rupert and Bilal C.? They have similar measurement and motors. Could be Bilal is better but how much so?

Like if Rayan was on Wemby’s team would he be the one getting hyped?

[Ariel]

Dariq Whitehead probably drops into the 2nd round since they announced he underwent a 2nd surgery on his foot this week. He could be a real steal in the 2nd round.
I'd like to think that, the problem with that reasoning IMO is that there's a chunk of picks in the 26-32 range that belong to non contenders with multiple picks (26, 29 & 32 Indiana, 27 Charlotte, 28 Utah, 31 Detroit) and those picks are ideal for such gambles, so I fear most high ceiling prospects that slip will be snatched by teams in that range, and it'll be frustrating to watch. If something like that happens, we should be ready to move up or we'll miss our chance.

[Ariel]

Sell the second rounders. All of them. We have NINETEEN that fall between this draft and 2029. The THIRTEEN FRPs that fall in that same period are going to be tough enough to develop, evaluate, and if need be, jettison.
I'd keep a few select ones, mainly I like the Spurs own this year and the next. Other than that, yes, ship a bunch of those together for some higher caliber prospect, better one good prospect now than investing 10 years worth of roster spots and developing time to come away with a single usable player.

[CGD]

I'd like to think that, the problem with that reasoning IMO is that there's a chunk of picks in the 26-32 range that belong to non contenders with multiple picks (26, 29 & 32 Indiana, 27 Charlotte, 28 Utah, 31 Detroit) and those picks are ideal for such gambles, so I fear most high ceiling prospects that slip will be snatched by teams in that range, and it'll be frustrating to watch. If something like that happens, we should be ready to move up or we'll miss our chance.

It’s a smart point. Makes you wonder the inverse: who where the “safer” bets for contenders in that range had they kept their pick that are at risk of slipping? I’m thinking it’s the Jaime Jaquez and Kris Murrays of the world

[jesterbobman]

Serious question, how far apart at Rayan Rupert and Bilal C.? They have similar measurement and motors. Could be Bilal is better but how much so?

Like if Rayan was on Wemby’s team would he be the one getting hyped?

I think there's a difference in athleticism, where Bilal is likely to be a clear ++ athlete, while Rupert is a good, but not great athlete - for the Breakers, he did good work as a defender with length, but never struck me as a "Holy shit, that guy is an athlete" player. You don't have to be a ++ athlete to be good, but as they both have good length, and similar skills, the athleticism puts him in a higher tier.

I'm not particularly high on Rupert. I'd be OK with him in the second at 33.

[Ariel]

It’s a smart point. Makes you wonder the inverse: who where the “safer” bets for contenders in that range had they kept their pick that are at risk of slipping? I’m thinking it’s the Jaime Jaquez and Kris Murrays of the world
Yeah, I've been pumping Jaquez for months, but unfortunately there's Memphis at 25 and he's exactly the kind of guy they usually target. But if for some reason he gets past them, he could very well go all the way down to #33.

[The Truth #6]

I’m still intrigued by Jordan Walsh. Great motor. Great defense. Great measurements. Super athletic. Yeah needs a jumper badly, but at least has an NBA skill day one with his defense. So far, I like his fire. I like players like that.

[wildbill2u]

There are no superior PGs in this draft who are likely to drop to us. Moving up looks tough although a few theories have been advanced. Miracles do happen but we are probably stuck with Jones as starter. He's improved enough to keep the job when competing against anyone on the current roster. The coaches should be able to draw up some plays to free Wemby on a cut to the basket for a lob from Jones.

[Mr. Body]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UNl3SYKqwE

Jordan Walsh is a good prospect. He'd be a lottery pick next year with a jump shot, imo, but then he may never shoot that well. Maybe I just hate jump shooters. But he's scrappy as hell, can be a great defender, makes winning plays on that end, and we don't really have much by way of wing forwards.

[Degoat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UNl3SYKqwE

Jordan Walsh is a good prospect. He'd be a lottery pick next year with a jump shot, imo, but then he may never shoot that well. Maybe I just hate jump shooters. But he's scrappy as hell, can be a great defender, makes winning plays on that end, and we don't really have much by way of wing forwards.

I really think that’s gonna be what the spurs address in the draft in the 2nd round, finding a big forward/Wing to add

[Degoat]

It is surprising, I know the spurs always keep things quiet on their end but usually there’s at least 3-4 prospects who post on their Instagram story that their in SA or post pictures insides the teams practice court, something that shows they worked out in SA. There’s been Zero of that so far

[playblair]

I’m still intrigued by Jordan Walsh. Great motor. Great defense. Great measurements. Super athletic. Yeah needs a jumper badly, but at least has an NBA skill day one with his defense. So far, I like his fire. I like players like that.

jordan walsh :donkey his college coach & team........u dont bring a cancer like that into the locker room


Once I got out of Arkansas, I'm now in a position where I don't have handcuffs on me.I'm able to shoot and make plays for people

[spurraider21]

its like if tony allen couldnt score at the rim

[Mr. Body]

I really think that’s gonna be what the spurs address in the draft in the 2nd round, finding a big forward/Wing to add

It's a draft that doesn't have a ton of SFs/wings. But then those positions are so slippery nowadays. Like, Ausar and Amen seem more like wings but people swear they're point guards. And then these new hybrid PFs like Hendricks and Miller who don't post up but sort of rebound and block shots, so they are PFs. Anyway, deep in the draft it's like maybe Strawther, Jaquez, Klintman, Jalen Wilson, Max Lewis, those types who are SFs.

[playblair]

my sources tell me spurs will bring in for workout..........

@:55 :wow

http://youtu.be/MFk5_T7zIzA

[exstatic]

my sources tell me spurs will bring in for workout..........

@:55 :wow

http://youtu.be/MFk5_T7zIzA

:vomit:

[The Truth #6]

jordan walsh :donkey his college coach & team........u dont bring a cancer like that into the locker room

That one quote makes him a cancer? I think he’s trying to convince people he has more to his game so he gets drafted. But if there’s more stories I’m curious to hear.

[BatManu20]

James Nnaji is an interesting prospect at only 18 years old. 20 years ago he would’ve been a top-10 pick. He projects as a great interior defender with his big, athletic 6’10 frame and freakish 7’5 wingspan.

He’s extremely mobile and fluid for his size, can switch onto quicker guards, and dunks everything around the basket. He shot a ridiculous 79% from inside the paint this season so he’s a strong finisher inside.

The problem is he has little to no offensive game whatsoever, hence why he’s being projected late in the First or early in the 2nd despite his physical capabilties. Can he develop a jump shot? Given his mechanics.. it’s not promising. He projects as an athletic Rim-running Center off the bench who can maybe start down the like in his career with more development. I think his best case scenario is a more athletic Robert Williams, which is still a good player tbh. Will be interesting to see if goes late First or if he’s available when we’re on the clock at 33 (assuming we don’t move up).


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Sochan likes what he sees.

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[Uriel]

It is surprising, I know the spurs always keep things quiet on their end but usually there’s at least 3-4 prospects who post on their Instagram story that their in SA or post pictures insides the teams practice court, something that shows they worked out in SA. There’s been Zero of that so far
Probably has something to do with the fact that, in previous years, getting an invite to workout with the Spurs meant getting interest from a lottery team, which many prospects were eager to signal. This year, it just means drawing interest from a team in the second round.

[PhantomDashCam]

my sources tell me spurs will bring in for workout..........



I can see that. They supposedly liked Marjon Beauchamp from last years class too...

[Mr. Body]

How is Jordan Walsh a cancer?

[scott]

Can confirm via my sources that Jordan Walsh is in fact a Pisces, not a Cancer.

[BackHome]

I really think that’s gonna be what the spurs address in the draft in the 2nd round, finding a big forward/Wing to add

You know after watching his High School tape I would take a shot at him he has a great base to build off and he is still young. I think with good coaching and someone assigned to him in the G League he could make some major strides on the offense side of the ball. I do admit he might be a little bit more riskier then other players but I think he has a higher ceiling then most other guys in the second round and still has a decent floor

[Russ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UNl3SYKqwE



How is Jordan Walsh a cancer?

Well, he does look like he may be going through chemo.

[Seventyniner]

Can confirm via my sources that Jordan Walsh is in fact a Pisces, not a Cancer.

I had never thought to check before, but Number Two literally is a Cancer. You can't make this stuff up.

[Degoat]

Two guys that I feel don’t make any noise around the league on where they’ll go is Bobi Klintman and Ben Sheppard. Bobi supposedly has a promise somewhere and Sheppard was one of the winners from the combine but no news surrounding them

[Mr. Body]

Two guys that I feel don’t make any noise around the league on where they’ll go is Bobi Klintman and Ben Sheppard. Bobi supposedly has a promise somewhere and Sheppard was one of the winners from the combine but no news surrounding them

Is Klintman even working out? If he has a promise, then no one is likely to try to steal him. He's only upside at this point, he was a nothing player at Wake. So people just guess a team with multiple late picks has him.

Sheppard is a senior. Some promising things, but it feels doubtful he'll escape the mid second round.

[tonight...you]

Can confirm via my sources that Jordan Walsh is in fact a Pisces, not a Cancer.
Then he's good folk.
Once again, no reason to read any posts by Calf-Tats.

[BatManu20]

Two guys that I feel don’t make any noise around the league on where they’ll go is Bobi Klintman and Ben Sheppard. Bobi supposedly has a promise somewhere and Sheppard was one of the winners from the combine but no news surrounding them

I read somewhere that Utah was high on Sheppard and might snag him with the 28th Pick. Could be hearsay obv but they’re a team to keep an eye on.

[wildbill2u]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UNl3SYKqwE




Well, he does look like he may be going through chemo. I got just the nickname for him: Nosferatu

[tonight...you]

I got just the nickname for him: Nosferatu
Hey! That's what I've been calling Adam Silver here!

But...
Yeah, Just look at those ears! And that bald forhead, although Nos had some cereal eyebrows...

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UNl3SYKqwE




Well, he does look like he may be going through chemo.

He looks like Mavs legend Charlie Villanueva

[exstatic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UNl3SYKqwE




Well, he does look like he may be going through chemo.

He has alopecia. If you make fun of him,he’ll send Will Smith to backhand you.

[Russ]

He has alopecia. If you make fun of him,he’ll send Will Smith to backhand you.

He looks like a high-effort, high floor role player.

Might be the greatest three and D guy ever if he could shoot (at all).

He looks a bit funny but I'd never call him G.I. Jane.

He looks like he and teammate Anthony Black pooled two heads of hair and made an all or nothing bet.

[Mr. Body]

I was thinking we'd just sell the 44, but if a guy like Walsh is there, I'm definitely interested in grabbing him. Always can use a guy who busts his ass.

[Atl Spur]

Draft and send him to mets92 for a year or two.

[The Truth #6]

https://www.nba.com/news/7-standout-prospects-from-the-nba-draft-combine

Which of these seven combine standouts will we likely draft? Spurs love a good combine showing.

[Degoat]

https://www.nba.com/news/7-standout-prospects-from-the-nba-draft-combine

Which of these seven combine standouts will we likely draft? Spurs love a good combine showing.

Havent given much thought to him but Seth Lundy could be that super under the radar guy the spurs go for

[exstatic]

He looks like a high-effort, high floor role player.

Might be the greatest three and D guy ever if he could shoot (at all).

He looks a bit funny but I'd never call him G.I. Jane.

He looks like he and teammate Anthony Black pooled two heads of hair and made an all or nothing bet.

The GI Jane joke by Chris Rock was because Jada also has alopecia.

[R. DeMurre]

https://www.nba.com/news/7-standout-prospects-from-the-nba-draft-combine

Which of these seven combine standouts will we likely draft? Spurs love a good combine showing.


It'll be interesting to see if Denver uses their only pick (#40) on the 7'0" Serbian Vukcevic. The guy had a .667 TS% and shot 40% from three this year in Europe.

[Degoat]

It'll be interesting to see if Denver uses their only pick (#40) on the 7'0" Serbian Vukcevic. The guy had a .667 TS% and shot 40% from three this year in Europe.

Im not sure exactly but I think Denver just traded for pick 37 according to Woj, weird kinda swapping pick trade between okc and denver

[exstatic]

Im not sure exactly but I think Denver just traded for pick 37 according to Woj, weird kinda swapping pick trade between okc and denver

Denver gets a decent SRP and a mid FRP, and only has to return a protected FRP in 2029. Depending on the protections for the return pick, it looks like a pretty even trade that allows Denver to grab some cheap talent to keep their window open for a few years. OKC gets to flatten their FRP curve by pushing a 2024 FRP all the way to 2029. Look for the Spurs to maybe do something similar in the next few years if we don't consolidate picks for a better one. We could have three FRPs next year, and I doubt we want three FRPs.

[Russ]

The GI Jane joke by Chris Rock was because Jada also has alopecia.

That was kind of the point. :)

[R. DeMurre]

Im not sure exactly but I think Denver just traded for pick 37 according to Woj, weird kinda swapping pick trade between okc and denver


Interesting... so they have 37 and 40 now. There must be someone they really like and think is available in that range. Vukcevic could make sense, especially if Jokic has expressed an interest in having him. Either way, loading up on inexpensive 2nd round guys with potential is a great strategy for a team that's already great and only needs bench help.

[jjspur]

I was thinking we'd just sell the 44, but if a guy like Walsh is there, I'm definitely interested in grabbing him. Always can use a guy who busts his ass.

He'd be great at 44 but not at 33. Too many guys with a bit more talent are available at 33. Like you said. we might also trade the 44th pick for a future 2nd, so any thing is possible. Pop does love those all hustle type guys no matter what their limitations are, so if we kept the pick Walsh would be a decent selection.

[R. DeMurre]

Denver gets a decent SRP and a mid FRP, and only has to return a protected FRP in 2029. Depending on the protections for the return pick, it looks like a pretty even trade that allows Denver to grab some cheap talent to keep their window open for a few years. OKC gets to flatten their FRP curve by pushing a 2024 FRP all the way to 2029. Look for the Spurs to maybe do something similar in the next few years if we don't consolidate picks for a better one. We could have three FRPs next year, and I doubt we want three FRPs.


From Woj: "NBA Finals trade: The Denver Nuggets are acquiring the least favorable of Oklahoma City's first-round picks in 2024, the 37th pick in the 2023 draft and 2024 second-round pick for a protected 2029 first-round, sources tell ESPN."

Sounds like a pretty great deal for Denver, though I don't see what the protection is on the 2029 FRP from them. I guess Presti is hoping that a 34 year old Jokic isn't too good, which doesn't seem like all that great a bet to me.

[Bruno]

I was thinking we'd just sell the 44, but if a guy like Walsh is there, I'm definitely interested in grabbing him. Always can use a guy who busts his ass.

Teams are allowed to have 3 two way contracts with the new CBA. Spurs' plan for pick #44 might be to draft a player who is fine with being on that kind of contract.

[The Truth #6]

He'd be great at 44 but not at 33. Too many guys with a bit more talent are available at 33. Like you said. we might also trade the 44th pick for a future 2nd, so any thing is possible. Pop does love those all hustle type guys no matter what their limitations are, so if we kept the pick Walsh would be a decent selection.

I’m intrigued by Walsh. Mostly by his defensive prowess, work ethic, and ridiculous athleticism. I feel like SRPs need to be fairly relentless to survive and make the most of their inherent challenges to get playing time. But who do you like more at 33?

[Ocotillo]

Rando tweet from Piston fan

https://twitter.com/GMwanttobe/status/1665848613493145600


Don't want the Bagley contract but interesting

[spurraider21]

killian hayes is ass though

still very young, but already 3 years into his 4 year rookie deal and hasnt showed enough imo

[Ignazzz]

Lets do it. Bad %FG can be improved. See FT%.

[Mr. Body]

Tre Jones is straight up better than Killian Hayes.

https://stathead.com/basketball/versus-finder.cgi?request=1&seasons_type=perchoice&player_id1=jonestr01&p1yrfrom=2023&p1yrto=2023&player_id2=hayeski01&p2yrfrom=2023&p2yrto=2023

Scroll down to see per game / per 36min stats.

[exstatic]

Rando tweet from Piston fan

https://twitter.com/GMwanttobe/status/1665848613493145600


Don't want the Bagley contract but interesting

Don’t want either of them.

[Mr. Body]

I’m intrigued by Walsh. Mostly by his defensive prowess, work ethic, and ridiculous athleticism. I feel like SRPs need to be fairly relentless to survive and make the most of their inherent challenges to get playing time. But who do you like more at 33?

I really wouldn't be surprised if someone grabs Walsh in the early 2nd round. The round is normally pretty wild and he's great on one side of the floor. Not everyone has even that.

But I'd say for the 33 you're looking at players who tumble slightly out of the 1st round. Often those are upperclassmen who have ready-made skills. Or projects with significant (if not incredible) upside. Or dudes who just slip. Like... Tre Jones, for the stick he takes on this board, was a steal at 41.

[JPB]

He looks like a high-effort, high floor role player.

Might be the greatest three and D guy ever if he could shoot (at all).



That's kind of why they're called 3 and D.

They can shoot.

[mo7888]

I really wouldn't be surprised if someone grabs Walsh in the early 2nd round. The round is normally pretty wild and he's great on one side of the floor. Not everyone has even that.

But I'd say for the 33 you're looking at players who tumble slightly out of the 1st round. Often those are upperclassmen who have ready-made skills. Or projects with significant (if not incredible) upside. Or dudes who just slip. Like... Tre Jones, for the stick he takes on this board, was a steal at 41.

I could even see Utah, indy, or the Clippers reaching for him late in the first..

[Uriel]

There’s a lot of good talent to be had at #33. Due to the inherent randomness of the pre-draft process, a lot of GM’s, for whatever reason, fall in love with off-the-radar prospects who never really pan out (our own front office has been guilty of this numerous times).

This means first-round talent will inevitably slip into the early-mid second round, which just so happens to be where both our picks will be.

[The Truth #6]

I’m interested in O Max and Walsh because I feel like they have some potential and skills, yes, but maybe more importantly the appropriate size. I admit that sounds simplistic, but I also feel like we have a bunch of guards masquerading. Walsh is sort of a poor man’s Sochan. Are we really gonna draft another short point guard? Another middling guard? Just spitballing.

[mo7888]

I’m interested in O Max and Walsh because I feel like they have some potential and skills, yes, but maybe more importantly the appropriate size. I admit that sounds simplistic, but I also feel like we have a bunch of guards masquerading. Walsh is sort of a poor man’s Sochan. Are we really gonna draft another short point guard? Another middling guard? Just spitballing.

If O Max is there at 33 it would be very hard to pass...

[Mr. Body]

I’m interested in O Max and Walsh because I feel like they have some potential and skills, yes, but maybe more importantly the appropriate size. I admit that sounds simplistic, but I also feel like we have a bunch of guards masquerading. Walsh is sort of a poor man’s Sochan. Are we really gonna draft another short point guard? Another middling guard? Just spitballing.

I hadn't really looked at Prosper, thinking him more a PF big. Yeah, he and Walsh would be great looks with those picks. I feel like O-MP is taking the spot where Walsh wants to be in the draft, pushing him back. Walsh is a couple years younger, as a freshman, and I feel like I'd go there first, but Prosper is a bit taller and possibly longer. He also seems like he's still growing into his basketball skills.

[Obstructed_View]

A lot of you guys are way too stuck on shooting. Sometimes you need role players to shore up team weaknesses. I remember when the Spurs just needed rebounding help and they signed Larry Smith. His rebounding contributed to wins. I assume their success with him was the reason they traded for Rodman.

[ismael-robert]

That's kind of why they're called 3 and D.

They can shoot.

I'm going out on a limb here but I'm gonna guess that's kind of why he said MIGHT be greatest if he could SHOOT

[Ariel]

Sounds like a pretty great deal for Denver, though I don't see what the protection is on the 2029 FRP from them. I guess Presti is hoping that a 34 year old Jokic isn't too good, which doesn't seem like all that great a bet to me.
His competitive advantage is based on intelligence, skill, size, and work ethic. Those traits are the least likely to be affected by age. Given his frame, the real danger is health, if he can avoid typical big guy issues, he should play at a high level well into his 30s. Personally, I'd hold judgement on the deal until details on the protections of all picks (going both ways) come out.

[Ariel]

I’m intrigued by Walsh. Mostly by his defensive prowess, work ethic, and ridiculous athleticism. I feel like SRPs need to be fairly relentless to survive and make the most of their inherent challenges to get playing time. But who do you like more at 33?
I'm hoping someone slips to 33, but I wouldn't be mad at all if he's our choice there, depending on how the draft unfolds.

[Ariel]

Walsh is a couple years younger, as a freshman, and I feel like I'd go there first, but Prosper is a bit taller and possibly longer. He also seems like he's still growing into his basketball skills.
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2023-24


Player
Hand Length
Hand Width
Height
Standing Reach
Wingspan


Jordan Walsh
8.75"
8.5
6' 5.75"
8' 11"
7' 1.75"



Olivier-Maxence Prosper
8.25"
10
6' 6.75"
8' 8"
7' 1"

[RC_Drunkford]

Nikola Jokic's agent also known as the Godfather of European Basketball mentioned Zvonimir Ivusic as a Wemby-lite type of player with a bright future. Something to watch, cause he'll probably go undrafted.

[playblair]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UNl3SYKqwE




Well, he does look like he may be going through chemo.

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[talkspurs]

Rando tweet from Piston fan

https://twitter.com/GMwanttobe/status/1665848613493145600


Don't want the Bagley contract but interesting

I might be one of the few but depending on who is left I might do this deal. Give us a look at hayes. Dont think Bagley has much value but has not played horribly. He just was drafted to high. Might be able to trade him for a late first to a playoff team or a first for him and a 2nd. If he doesnt work out we could cut him it would only effect this year and next year a little.

[Mr. Body]

Ain't nobody trading for Marvin Bagley.

[JPB]

Nikola Jokic's agent also known as the Godfather of European Basketball mentioned Zvonimir Ivusic as a Wemby-lite type of player with a bright future. Something to watch, cause he'll probably go undrafted.

Don't know about his future but his present is far behind Wemby. Playing like 10 mn /game in his local leagues for random role player stats, which is his high ceiling. Very raw, with not real skills or feel for the game and not as tall as pimped... A stiff. A end of bench, croatian skinny Jeff Ayres.

Note to self: Think about deleting this post if Ivusic pans out.

[RC_Drunkford]

Don't know about his future but his present is far behind Wemby. Playing like 10 mn /game in his local leagues for random role player stats, which is his high ceiling. Very raw, with not real skills or feel for the game and not as tall as pimped... A stiff. A end of bench, croatian Jeff Ayres.

Note to self: Think about deleting this post if Ivusic pans out.

yeah he said most people haven't realized it yet, but when he played a game against a turkish euroleague team he had like 23 points in 20 minutes or something like that. Who knows, but this is the guy who found Jokic, Boban and many others

[JPB]

yeah he said most people haven't realized it yet, but when he played a game against a turkish euroleague team he had like 23 points in 20 minutes or something like that. Who knows, but this is the guy who found Jokic, Boban and many others

Austin Dayes scored 25 pts once in the NBA :D ... Sure he got Jokic right but Boban is a garbage time, cult hero, living mascot... Not sure we can name the guy the godfather of Europe, he's probalby throwing names more than anything and seeing who sticks..

Ivusic withdrew from last year's draft and at almost 20 he doesn't seem to get much more interest this year. He's a draft and stash bet or G League prospect at best, and a long shot as a stretch/rim pretecting big if he can bulk up and develop a real reliable shot... A fraudulent 3rd big , but we already got Mamu, Barlowe and Bassey in that category.

[objective]

OSCAR TSHIEBWE

was listening to one of the Ringer draft podcasts and Tshiebwe to the Spurs was floated as a fun idea in the second round

I have to admit I like that idea a lot. Limited player, but could be of use as a specialist

[The Truth #6]

^ He might even go undrafted. Definitely worth an invite.

[RC_Drunkford]

Austin Dayes scored 25 pts once in the NBA :D ... Sure he got Jokic right but Boban is a garbage time, cult hero, living mascot... Not sure we can name the guy the godfather of Europe, he's probalby throwing names more than anything and seeing who sticks..

Ivusic withdrew from last year's draft and at almost 20 he doesn't seem to get much more interest this year. He's a draft and stash bet or G League prospect at best, and a long shot as a stretch/rim pretecting big if he can bulk up and develop a real reliable shot... A fraudulent 3rd big , but we already got Mamu, Barlowe and Bassey in that category.

I don't think you understand that this guy manages the majority of the top Euroleague players. He literally is the best in Europe. I also never said we should draft the guy, I only repeated what he said. Of course 1 game can always be a fluke, Joffrey Lauvergne dropped 30 on the Nuggets, but was hot garbage otherwise when he was here.

[CGD]

Rando tweet from Piston fan

https://twitter.com/GMwanttobe/status/1665848613493145600


Don't want the Bagley contract but interesting

Interesting— don’t love Bagley but I would do it. Theoretically addresses two needs: PG and burly PF. I’d offer 44 and like 3 of those pelican picks.

[JPB]

I don't think you understand that this guy manages the majority of the top Euroleague players. He literally is the best in Europe. I also never said we should draft the guy, I only repeated what he said. Of course 1 game can always be a fluke, Joffrey Lauvergne dropped 30 on the Nuggets, but was hot garbage otherwise when he was here.

I know who Misko Raznatovic is and I also know he has like more than 150 european players in his pool... That's why I'm saying he's throwing darts to see the one who will make it... If he was a real genius, he would have a smaller pool of players most of them current or fututre stars or NBA players, which isn't the case. He's just a smart businessman with a big web in Europe. How many of his 150+ clients will play in America and how many as valuable players in the NBA or anywhere? Less than 10%.. he has like half of Europe under contract, so ofc in that mass there's the few good ones.

Here is the list of his NBA clients:

Dario Šarić (2nd hand role player)
Ivica Zubac (2nd hand role player)
Goga Bitadze (scrub)
Marko Simonović (scrub)
Juan Toscano-Anderson (scrub)
Nikola Jokić (All time great)
Nikola Jović (scrub)
Boban Marjanović (mascot)

The jewel is obviously Jokic, that he first discovered in a newspaper and even him probably never imagined he would become the player he did, basically lucking into him... Otherwise his record is just 2nd hand to borderline NBA players, and that is for the 7 or 8% that actually play in the NBA (probably not for long for most). So I'm not sure I will take his opinion for granted when he pimps one his random clients who withdrew from the draft last year and may go undrafted this year as a "Wemby type of player". He knows that the kid ain't that great and that might be his last chance for the NBA.

[TD 21]

Interesting— don’t love Bagley but I would do it. Theoretically addresses two needs: PG and burly PF. I’d offer 44 and like 3 of those pelican picks.

Just what the Spurs need, two more players who can't shoot. They're also relatively pricey and given their draft pedigree (and Hayes' entering a contract season), would no doubt expect guaranteed rotation spots.

Bagley III is also not burly nor a pure PF. He's a combo big, who needs a floor spacing rim protector next to him.

[Mr. Body]

Interesting— don’t love Bagley but I would do it. Theoretically addresses two needs: PG and burly PF. I’d offer 44 and like 3 of those pelican picks.

Like I said Tre Jones is better than Hayes across the board. Graham is more useful than this. People need to stop jumping at busted lottery picks. They aren't going to stop sucking.

[R. DeMurre]

Note to self: Think about deleting this post if Ivusic pans out.


:lol

[jjspur]

I’m intrigued by Walsh. Mostly by his defensive prowess, work ethic, and ridiculous athleticism. I feel like SRPs need to be fairly relentless to survive and make the most of their inherent challenges to get playing time. But who do you like more at 33?

There are a couple of these guys that will probably go late 1st round, but they can't all go late first round, so some will fall to the second round. We've seen all their names before so in no particular order :
Brandin Podziemski
Amari Bailey
Jaime Jaquez
Andre Jackson
Colby Jones
Ben Sheppard
All these guys would make a great pick at 33. Olivier Prosper or Jordan Walsh at 44. All these guys have a spurs vibe to them. Not flashy, but very capable when called upon. With Wemby, any of the top six on the list plus either Prosper or Walsh, that would be an A+ draft.

[exstatic]

It’s almost always dumb to pick up a busted lottery pick that’s due to be paid. The value in draft picks is the cheap contract, and that value is nearly exhausted in Hayes case.

[Rocalcio]

Rando tweet from Piston fan

https://twitter.com/GMwanttobe/status/1665848613493145600


Don't want the Bagley contract but interesting

Yes please !!

[exstatic]

Yes please !!

Bagley f'ing sucks, already being dumped by his drafting team. Killian hasn't shown much in 3 years and is due to be paid. His OVERALL FG% is below 40, career. F no.

[BackHome]

Nikola Jokic's agent also known as the Godfather of European Basketball mentioned Zvonimir Ivusic as a Wemby-lite type of player with a bright future. Something to watch, cause he'll probably go undrafted.

I thought he was not coming out until 2024 - If he comes out this year would not mind him with the 44th pick and draft and stash him for a year or two. He has the size being 7’2 and is not a bad athlete for being that tall though not close to Wemby but one thing for sure he is a Center. His body can I think easily handle adding 20 pounds of muscle over the next 3 years as he is still young 19, and from watching some of the vids he does not mind banging down low.

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/SpursBR_/status/1668303412780314628

Workout for Bailey with the spurs, good target with our secound round.

[Rocalcio]

Bagley f'ing sucks, already being dumped by his drafting team. Killian hasn't shown much in 3 years and is due to be paid. His OVERALL FG% is below 40, career. F no.

Hayes had shown this year he can be good, just give him time, there isn’t any rush this year. The kid can be good.

[Degoat]

https://twitter.com/SpursBR_/status/1668303412780314628

Workout for Bailey with the spurs, good target with our secound round.

Nice find! I like him he’d be a decent pickup

[exstatic]

Hayes had shown this year he can be good, just give him time, there isn’t any rush this year. The kid can be good.

He’s due for an extension this summer. His cheap evaluating period is over. He won’t be happy not getting an extension, and no, the Spurs won’t give him one, and he’s a restricted FA next summer. Detroit is just trying to make their problem our problem. If you really want a look at him, Detroit will be salary dumping him during the coming season like Sacto did with Bagley.

[Mr. Body]

Tre Jones is better than Killian Hayes in every single category including advanced stats. Just resign him.

I've been curious about Amari Bailey. I've read conflicting remarks on his BBIQ but otherwise he seems like a good low risk at a defensive point guard.

[duncan2150]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1668278377667518465

Interesting note about a potential secound round pick/ draft and stash candidate

[Bruno]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1668276452733730817

If Spurs don't want to use #44 on a two-way player, Hifi might be an interesting option. He has already signed a 3 years contract with a team in France.

[rjv]

Tre Jones is better than Killian Hayes in every single category including advanced stats. Just resign him.

I've been curious about Amari Bailey. I've read conflicting remarks on his BBIQ but otherwise he seems like a good low risk at a defensive point guard.


at the moment, he's the opposite side of tre in regards to assist to turnover ratio as bailey produced more turnovers than assists in his one season with UCLA.

[Mr. Body]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1668276452733730817

If Spurs don't want to use #44 on a two-way player, Hifi might be an interesting option. He has already signed a 3 years contract with a team in France.

Truly the Nadir of basketball.

[kobyz]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1668276452733730817

If Spurs don't want to use #44 on a two-way player, Hifi might be an interesting option. He has already signed a 3 years contract with a team in France.

Looks like Patty Mills in those highlights

[scott]

Any other juicy stash prospects at #44?

[wildbill2u]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1668276452733730817

If Spurs don't want to use #44 on a two-way player, Hifi might be an interesting option. He has already signed a 3 years contract with a team in France.

Looks better than Wesley right now. :smokin

[Mr. Body]

Looks better than Wesley right now. :smokin

You could tell from a 2:14 video? That's impressive.

[JPB]

Nadir Hifi worked out for the Blazers and the Kings notably. Interesting quote from him about his workouts where he said he "impressed" franchises :D

"I was playing college players who are athletic but don't have the same experience. The players I play in France were good at university but they are adults. That's why it went well for me, it's a success. »

Averaged 17 & 3 as a PG in the french league with a 39 pts ouburst vs. Paris. the french Allen Iverson. :D (french algerian to be exact.)

[Ariel]

Any other juicy stash prospects at #44?
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1668278377667518465

NBA teams who have expressed interest have been told that Vukcevic does not want to be stashed in Europe next season, sources told ESPN. Vukcevic is looking for a team to pay his buyout and bring him over immediately, likely eliminating the option of signing a two-way contract.
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He was a draft & stash option at 44 in my book, but he's apparently not willing to be stashed, so lets cross him out.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Interesting news re Vukcevic, I thought he might have been a legit target in the 2nd round.

I wouldn't be surprised if pick 33 is used for stashing (James Nnaji?) and pick 44 for someone who's willing to play on a 2-way, so could be someone projected lower, or even undrafted, say Seth Lundy or someone like that. I'd be very surprised if they bring two more rookies to the roster, barring a trade up for someone they really love.

Also, it appears that Bobi Klintman is withdrawing from the draft and he was someone who was supposed to have had a promise, so everyone was projecting him in the end of the first round. Strange developments there.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Interesting news re Vukcevic, I thought he might have been a legit target in the 2nd round.

I wouldn't be surprised if pick 33 is used for stashing (James Nnaji?) and pick 44 for someone who's willing to play on a 2-way, so could be someone projected lower, or even undrafted, say Seth Lundy or someone like that. I'd be very surprised if they bring two more rookies to the roster, barring a trade up for someone they really love.

Also, it appears that Bobi Klintman is withdrawing from the draft and he was someone who was supposed to have had a promise, so everyone was projecting him in the end of the first round. Strange developments there.

Can he still withdraw from the draft this late?

[exstatic]

Can he still withdraw from the draft this late?

He can, but he can't go back to school. The NCAA deadline is 1 June.

[Mr. Body]

I think the final withdrawal date was yesterday.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Can he still withdraw from the draft this late?

He has signed with an NBL team and will play professionally. Probably trying to increase his stock for 2024.

[exstatic]

He has signed with an NBL team and will play professionally. Probably trying to increase his stock for 2024.

I figured he was going overseas, somewhere.

[Ditty]

I am really starting to feel Vukcevic at 33 now if he makes it. I believe Nnaji is going in the 20's now.

[Mr. Body]

Real question - I don't know. Does Vukcevic give you anything that Mamukelashvili doesn't already provide?

[Ditty]

I didn't pay enough attention to Mamu at the end of the season tbh, but I feel like Vukcevic is a better shooter at least.

[mo7888]

Real question - I don't know. Does Vukcevic give you anything that Mamukelashvili doesn't already provide?

That is a good question... Mamu is older and more mature which makes him better in the short term. He's also a better passer/playmaker. Vukcevic is younger, and his shot looks smoother. The age and outside shooting probably give him a better long-term upside. Barlow might be the better one to compare to if were talking about competing for a roster spot though.

[JPB]

Real question - I don't know. Does Vukcevic give you anything that Mamukelashvili doesn't already provide?

A shorter name.

[BatManu20]

One of my pet cats in this draft. I hope he falls into our laps tbh, though I doubt it after his combine showing. Was underutilized at UCLA due to playing on a team full of upperclassmen. His best basketball days are ahead of him though imo.


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Posted this a couple weeks ago:


A name to keep an eye on that I haven’t really seen mentioned in this thread is Amari Bailey. He’s a crafty, lefty combo-guard out of UCLA who just turned 19 a couple months ago so he has some upside to him. 6’4 192 lbs. with a 6’7 wingspan. His strengths are his slashing ability and his on-ball defense. Shot 39% from 3 last year so he shows promise there. Wasn’t asked to score a lot playing on that talented UCLA team so only averaged 11 PPG, but I think he’ll improve in that department with more touches and seasoning. Needs to clean up his TO’s too, but he’s a kid who I think the Spurs could be interested in as a developmental Guard prospect.



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[Mr. Body]

I don't really understand why Bailey hasn't cracked the first round.

[BatManu20]

Same. Could just be teams are trying to keep quiet on him hoping he flies under the radar. But his performance at the combine definitely caught scout’s attention. This draft is really deep with Guard/Wing prospects so we’ll see.


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[Russ]

Same. Could just be teams are trying to keep quiet on him hoping he flies under the radar. But his performance at the combine definitely caught scout’s attention. This draft is really deep with Guard/Wing prospects so we’ll see.


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Not sure I see "NBA level burst" (or much else).

But bump him up, Spurs, it can only help.

[scott]

What made Wesley worthy of an FRP that Bailey doesn't do? Seems like he'd be a great pick at #33, if not in the mid-20s.

[Mr. Body]

What made Wesley worthy of an FRP that Bailey doesn't do? Seems like he'd be a great pick at #33, if not in the mid-20s.

My feeling is last draft was much better in the 2-14 range and then started falling off a cliff. With some exceptions. This draft is very iffy from 2-10 and then maintains value for a while with a gradual decline.

[Russ]

My feeling is last draft was much better in the 2-14 range and then started falling off a cliff. With some exceptions. This draft is very iffy from 2-10 and then maintains value for a while with a gradual decline.

Yeah, the two best value points in this draft are right where the Spurs are -- Pick #1 and #33 (maybe even #44).

Hopefully, the Spurs won't trade that #33 or use it to move up.

[mo7888]

My feeling is last draft was much better in the 2-14 range and then started falling off a cliff. With some exceptions. This draft is very iffy from 2-10 and then maintains value for a while with a gradual decline.

And for the sake of having differing opinions- i dont think the last draft even sniffs at this one from 2-35. Im not saying its not 'iffy', its a draft, so by definition they all are to a certain degree... i just see this unlike anything we've seen in quite a while.

[JPB]

What made Wesley worthy of an FRP that Bailey doesn't do? Seems like he'd be a great pick at #33, if not in the mid-20s.

Seems like lot of things could happen from around 25 to 35 (or even 20-35 eventually) with players from equal values. Will depend on needs I guess. Could be some player to steal there.

[JPB]

And for the sake of having differing opinions- i dont think the last draft even sniffs at this one from 2-35. Im not saying its not 'iffy', its a draft, so by definition they all are to a certain degree... i just see this unlike anything we've seen in quite a while.

Funny, I see the opposite. Remove Wemby and it looks lke a mediocre cuvée to me. Mostly role players with a few potential stars and quite a few busts.

[Mr. Body]

And for the sake of having differing opinions- i dont think the last draft even sniffs at this one from 2-35. Im not saying its not 'iffy', its a draft, so by definition they all are to a certain degree... i just see this unlike anything we've seen in quite a while.

Sure, to disagree.

I don't believe in the hype surrounding Scoot, the Thompsons, and Whitmore, and think Jarace and Hendrix are good PF prospects but have limited ceillings. Miller is a lot like Jabari to me, who was overrated. I don't like players that high who need to be activated by other players. Chet and Banchero are better than the whole bunch. Then we get into some iffy players from last year like Ivey, who I'd rate higher than the guys in similar position this year. I would take Sharpe over the Thompsons. Keegan and definitely Sochan over the PFs in this class. I wasn't big on Dyson Daniels and would rank him behind an Anthony Black.

Other than Jalen Williams, Duren and Williams, which are admitedly nice finds, the 11-20 range was just okay last year. A number of Dalen Terrys and Ogbachis and Griffins who are either not great (so far) or cap out as role players solely.

I do think there will be wild chops of the bat this year for guys like Clowney, but I think I favor most players this year post 11 than I did last year, and I do think last year ran out of juice really in the teens other than guys with promise like Branham and especially Kessler.

So maybe this year feels more evenly distributed because the top 10, post Wemby, are occupied by guys I think are overrated or have relatively low ceilings.

[mo7888]

Sure, to disagree.

I don't believe in the hype surrounding Scoot, the Thompsons, and Whitmore, and think Jarace and Hendrix are good PF prospects but have limited ceillings. Miller is a lot like Jabari to me, who was overrated. I don't like players that high who need to be activated by other players. Chet and Banchero are better than the whole bunch. Then we get into some iffy players from last year like Ivey, who I'd rate higher than the guys in similar position this year. I would take Sharpe over the Thompsons. Keegan and definitely Sochan over the PFs in this class. I wasn't big on Dyson Daniels and would rank him behind an Anthony Black.

Other than Jalen Williams, Duren and Williams, which are admitedly nice finds, the 11-20 range was just okay last year. A number of Dalen Terrys and Ogbachis and Griffins who are either not great (so far) or cap out as role players solely.

I do think there will be wild chops of the bat this year for guys like Clowney, but I think I favor most players this year post 11 than I did last year, and I do think last year ran out of juice really in the teens other than guys with promise like Branham and especially Kessler.

So maybe this year feels more evenly distributed because the top 10, post Wemby, are occupied by guys I think are overrated or have relatively low ceilings.

You're pretty firm in your view and reinforce it alot, so i just like to chime in every week or so with the opposite view that I hold so this place isn't just an echo chamber with one prevailing theme about the quality of this draft.

I do agree with you on Miller though, I'm not nearly as high on him as most pundits out there (#6 on my board in the 3rd tier). I could make a pretty good argument for dropping him to #10 though.

Jarace Walker is an area the we disagree on by a pretty wide margin. I have his ceiling as an All-star on a championship team. I have him 3rd overall, (and I'm struggling with moving him up to #2) I think he will have a better career than Banchero IF he has the mental makeup/determination to put in the work. Basically, I see him as having the ceiling of being a bigger Kawhi. I know that opens me up a little bit, but it's what I see. The mental side is my one concern, and it's the hardest thing to evaluate when you're not in the room.

[Mr. Body]

I hope you're right about Walker. I do like him.

[sfernald]

I don't really understand why Bailey hasn't cracked the first round.

The thing is there are at least 40 first round quality players. Some will drop for certain, which means Spurs have a chance to snag a very good player at 33 if they just draft BAP, which I’m sure they will.

[sfernald]

You're pretty firm in your view and reinforce it alot, so i just like to chime in every week or so with the opposite view that I hold so this place isn't just an echo chamber with one prevailing theme about the quality of this draft.

I do agree with you on Miller though, I'm not nearly as high on him as most pundits out there (#6 on my board in the 3rd tier). I could make a pretty good argument for dropping him to #10 though.

Jarace Walker is an area the we disagree on by a pretty wide margin. I have his ceiling as an All-star on a championship team. I have him 3rd overall, (and I'm struggling with moving him up to #2) I think he will have a better career than Banchero IF he has the mental makeup/determination to put in the work. Basically, I see him as having the ceiling of being a bigger Kawhi. I know that opens me up a little bit, but it's what I see. The mental side is my one concern, and it's the hardest thing to evaluate when you're not in the room.

I agree about Miller too. But man I couldn’t disagree more about Scoot. I think he’s gonna be a Chris Paul / Derrick Rose level game changer. I would have drafted him #1 last draft for sure.

[mo7888]

I agree about Miller too. But man I couldn’t disagree more about Scoot. I think he’s gonna be a Chris Paul / Derrick Rose level game changer. I would have drafted him #1 last draft for sure.

I didn't comment on Scoot. I believe he would have gone #1 last year. I still have him #2, but it's really close for me. If Jarace hits his peak, he's the better player, but Scoot probably has the higher percentage chance of hitting his ceiling...its a tough call for me..

[ATXSpursfan]

Real question - I don't know. Does Vukcevic give you anything that Mamukelashvili doesn't already provide?

Shooting. He may not end up doing much else but he has a chance to be a lethal elite level shooter. He can shoot over anyone. Is a good passer as well.

I think I would still roll with Mamu though because he has more unique skills for his size.

[scott]

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Official list of withdrawals and early entry candidates.

Thought Nikola Djurisic could be a stash candidate.

Good news: French PG/SF prospect Victor Wembanyama stayed in :)

[sfernald]

I didn't comment on Scoot. I believe he would have gone #1 last year. I still have him #2, but it's really close for me. If Jarace hits his peak, he's the better player, but Scoot probably has the higher percentage chance of hitting his ceiling...its a tough call for me..

Sorry, I was intending that to the guy you were responding to.

[wildbill2u]

You could tell from a 2:14 video? That's impressive.

"I know," he said modestly. But the real secret was watching Wesley for a season. :downspin:

[Degoat]

If the spurs stick at #33 I really hope either Jaime Jaquez or Colby Jones falls to us. Perfect spursy guys that I think would really fit in

[Ariel]

My feeling is last draft was much better in the 2-14 range and then started falling off a cliff. With some exceptions. This draft is very iffy from 2-10 and then maintains value for a while with a gradual decline.
Last year's draft had value way past 14, up to 22 I'd say it was pretty good:
12) Jalen Williams
13) Jalen Duren
15) Mark Williams
16) AJ Griffin
17) Tari Eason
20) Malaki Branham
21) Christian Braun
22) Walker Kessler
THEN it falls off a cliff.

[RC_Drunkford]

And for the sake of having differing opinions- i dont think the last draft even sniffs at this one from 2-35. Im not saying its not 'iffy', its a draft, so by definition they all are to a certain degree... i just see this unlike anything we've seen in quite a while.

this is definitely the best draft in years. Should have some sleepers out of the lottery and valuable role players even in the 2nd round

[scott]

Interesting perspective mo7888 and RC_Drunkford. I thought last year's draft, especially the top 10, were stronger than this year's. My impression is that 2-10 was much stronger last year, but this year's draft has a lot more depth.

[mo7888]

Interesting perspective mo7888 and RC_Drunkford. I thought last year's draft, especially the top 10, were stronger than this year's. My impression is that 2-10 was much stronger last year, but this year's draft has a lot more depth.

I thin that 5 years from now people will look back on this draft as one of the best...

[BackHome]

https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1668278377667518465

Interesting note about a potential secound round pick/ draft and stash candidate

Yea, I like him as a stash but not sure since he wants to come over immediately - He has a sweet outside shot and developing offense only issue is his defense it's not bad it's just not good. But, he is still young so he has time to develop will see in a week or so if the Spurs like him...lol

You know after spending a lot of time looking at players there are a couple that I personally like but No one that I am like they must get. Last year for me my must get was "Gabriele Procida" but this year I am fine with with who ever we get. After getting the first pick in the draft everything else seems unimportant...:flag:

[sfernald]

I thin that 5 years from now people will look back on this draft as one of the best...

I totally agree, having followed drafts since 1979. This will be one to remember, full of great players. It’s a great one to jump back into the first round if you possibly can. We have so many picks it would probably be foolish not to.

[Maddog]

That is a good question... Mamu is older and more mature which makes him better in the short term. He's also a better passer/playmaker. Vukcevic is younger, and his shot looks smoother. The age and outside shooting probably give him a better long-term upside. Barlow might be the better one to compare to if were talking about competing for a roster spot though.

Mamu hits just enough threes to make you want to invest in him long term, but not at a rate to convince you.

[exstatic]

Mamu hits just enough threes to make you want to invest in him long term, but not at a rate to convince you.

He shoots well enough for a big, career 34.4%. Brook Lopez, considered a good stretch 5, has a career rate of 34.6.

[Uriel]

33. San Antonio Spurs (https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs)
Andre Jackson Jr. (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4432190/andre-jackson-jr) | UConn | SG/SF | Age: 21.5

44. San Antonio Spurs (https://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) (via Toronto)
Tristan Vukcevic | Partizan | PF/C | Age: 20.2
https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/37838983/2023-nba-mock-draft-why-scoot-henderson-play-no-2

[CGD]

He shoots well enough for a big, career 34.4%. Brook Lopez, considered a good stretch 5, has a career rate of 34.6.

Brooks commitment to develop a three point shot late in his career is commendable for its foresight and willingness to put in the hard work. Dude wasn’t even shooting that shot like 6 years ago.

[rascal]

If the spurs stick at #33 I really hope either Jaime Jaquez or Colby Jones falls to us. Perfect spursy guys that I think would really fit in

Explain Spursy player.

[Degoat]

Explain Spursy player.

Spursy- a player who displays Jack of all trades skill set but master of none. Low maintenance, works hard, plays the game the right way.

Used in a sentence? You got it.

Derrick White displayed very Spursy qualities coming out of college. Lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

Explain Spursy player.

unathletic lightskinned guys who listen to the coach and make the right pass

[Uriel]

I feel like Dariq Whitehead has fallen off the radar and nobody talks about him anymore. But today’s Bradley Beal deal reminds me of him because the two are similar players, and with Whitehead’s second foot surgery behind him, it’s possible he could regain his high school form and become an elite-level prospect who would be an absolute steal in the second round.

[Uriel]

Colby Jones and Julian Strawther are now the latest picks at 33 and 44 in ESPN’s latest mock.

[Russ]

I favor Terquavion Smith (guard NC State) at 33 and definitely at 44.

He passes the eyeball test -- athletic, explosive and quick. He has shooting range, can pass, has a high motor, and makes a difference winningwise. He’s also fun to watch (for what it's worth). His shooting stroke is quick, efficient, effortless.

He took his NC State team from 11-21 his freshman year to 23-12 his sophomore year, as the unquestioned leader of that team. Not a coach-killer like so many prospects, quite the opposite. He had a nice Combine performance last year but thought he had unfinished business in college.

Legitimate concerns exist. Statistics. High usage rate, he’s seen as inefficient. But that same high usage rate was probably a major factor in his team’s success. Taking a team from 11-21 to 23-12 with such a high usage rate – that’s gotta reflect on him and winning is a statistic, too. I’ll take it.

He has three green numbers (albeit a bunch of red ones) on Tankathon -- points, assists, and assist/turnover ratio. Those are pretty good categories to excel in. He’s primarily known as a scorer but also averaged over four assists/game, more than most anyone in the 1st round except Cason Wallace at Kentucky and the Thompson twins and Scoot Henderson in the G League. (And he did what he did against the North Carolinas and Dukes in the intensity of the ACC not in a mid-major conference or the G League like a lot of these prospects.)

No one here is talking about this guy much. I think the Spurs may take him – just a gut level feel -- and, unless some real talents fall, they definitely should. The last two guys that were this intriguing and had such a real chance to slip to where the Spurs were drafting were Dejuonte Murray and Keldon Johnson. Miraculously enough, the Spurs got both. Highly unlikely they’ll get this guy but I hope they do. He’s a bargain-basement winner; that’s what they’re gonna be looking for these next couple of years.

You can check out the video below: highlight videos can be deceptive, especially when they focus on outside shooting. And that’s what most of this guy’s videos are. But I watched him in real time on NBATV at the combine and was kinda blown away. This video is more representative of what he can do:

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I think he would be very nice at 33 and a no-brainer if he somehow lasts to 44.

(I erroneously posted this in the Emoni Bates thread. I suppose there are similarities.)

[$pursDynasty]

Noah Clowney forward Alabama , he is easily Herb Jones 2.0 a quality front court player if their isn't a highly desirable guard. I want the Spurs to trade up to secure him.

[$pursDynasty]

Noah Clowney forward Alabama , he is easily Herb Jones 2.0 a quality front court player if their isn't a highly desirable guard. I want the Spurs to trade up to secure him. Damn he just got drafted.

[ace3g]

Andre Jackson Jr. still available!!!

[$pursDynasty]

Noah Clowney forward Alabama , he is easily Herb Jones 2.0 a quality front court player if their isn't a highly desirable guard. I want the Spurs to trade up to secure him. Damn he just got drafted.

[playblair]

my sources tell me spurs will bring in for workout..........

@:55 :wow

http://youtu.be/MFk5_T7zIzA
playblairs intel was correct.......plz give playblair his :clap

[Splits]

I don't think we're quite there instantaneously, but Wemby should pull us out of the high lottery at the very least, probably in the 8-12 range next year (35-40 wins). As for GG Jackson, I don't know that he's the right fit for the Spurs. He's too young and too raw, and he may not be a contributor before his rookie deal is up, in which case using a first rounder on him would be a waste. Also he overlaps with Wemby, Sochan and Barlow, the latter of whom is already on the team and deserving of a chance. This is probably where scott's post above applies, in terms of not overdoing the project thing.

ufff swing and a miss

[Ariel]

ufff swing and a miss
:lol Well, honestly that was in may and I was expecting a few key additions to move forward a bit (PG, C, some shooting) like Indiana or Houston did. Had you told me the Spurs planned to stand pat and start Sochan at PG, that would have been a different story. In fact I'd say that my confidence in Wemby was justified and it was definitely possible to put a team around him to be where Brooklyn is right now (8th), the FO just decided to go a different direction. Not one of my worst misses I'd say

[Splits]

:lol Well, honestly that was in may and I was expecting a few key additions to move forward a bit (PG, C, some shooting) like Indiana or Houston did. Had you told me the Spurs planned to stand pat and start Sochan at PG, that would have been a different story. In fact I'd say that my confidence in Wemby was justified and it was definitely possible to put a team around him to be where Brooklyn is right now (8th), the FO just decided to go a different direction. Not one of my worst misses I'd say

:lol all good small

[exstatic]

:lol Well, honestly that was in may and I was expecting a few key additions to move forward a bit (PG, C, some shooting) like Indiana or Houston did. Had you told me the Spurs planned to stand pat and start Sochan at PG, that would have been a different story. In fact I'd say that my confidence in Wemby was justified and it was definitely possible to put a team around him to be where Brooklyn is right now (8th), the FO just decided to go a different direction. Not one of my worst misses I'd say

Houston is 9th, and falling. They’re not a model, they’re a cautionary tale.