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the new training facility is next to fiesta texas.......

[Leetonidas]

While I would like that since I live near La Cantera, I don't think it's the right area. The arena would preferably be in the middle of downtown but then again anywhere would be better than the ghetto ass area they put it in. But it doesn't matter because SA is not building a new arena anytime soon

[exstatic]

While I would like that since I live near La Cantera, I don't think it's the right area. The arena would preferably be in the middle of downtown but then again anywhere would be better than the ghetto ass area they put it in. But it doesn't matter because SA is not building a new arena anytime soon

They need to build it in the next 7-ish years or they're gone in 2032 when the lease on the Barn is over.

[playblair]

While I would like that since I live near La Cantera, I don't think it's the right area. The arena would preferably be in the middle of downtown but then again anywhere would be better than the ghetto ass area they put it in. But it doesn't matter because SA is not building a new arena anytime soon
what type of area is la cantera......is it ghetto or suburban.......i cant find any info on google it just shows an intersection....

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Too much traffic for the area to handle. Knock down that Bill Millers next to the Alamodome and build the arena there

[TekXX]

They built this close to where the players and coaches live but why not build even closer next to the dominion.

[Big Empty]

All those $50k a year millionaires dont want that traffic in their area, its staying in the ghetto

[Millennial_Messiah]

what type of area is la cantera......is it ghetto or suburban.......i cant find any info on google it just shows an intersection....

La Cantera is one of the nicest and most upscale areas in San Antonio, next to say, Alamo Heights and the Live Oak area.

It's a mecca for sure. People from all over go to see the quarries, Six Flags Fiesta Texas (one of the better Six Flags parks in the country IMO, I don't care that they built that awful new dive coaster but Iron Rattler is a top 25 roller coaster IMO in the world), UTSA being across the road, and all of the upscale shopping strip malls, HEB, quality healthcare, and other amenities. It's one of the best (and most expensive) areas to live in in SA. Whereas, the AT&T center surrounding area is one of the worst and highest in crime.


They need to build it in the next 7-ish years or they're gone in 2032 when the lease on the Barn is over.
Idk about that anymore. Wemby will be in his prime, and winning teams don't relocate. Losing teams like the Sonics which had missed the playoffs 7 of the last 8 years before they relocate, relocate. Perennial playoff teams find a way to stay in place.

The Spurs are an NBA treasure and the Green Bay Packers of the NBA. The Wemby thing cemented that. They will not relocate.

[TekXX]

Also...what new Arena?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Too much traffic for the area to handle. Knock down that Bill Millers next to the Alamodome and build the arena there

I don't agree with sports teams building their stadiums downtown either. Too much congestion and too little parking. Makes getting to games very difficult for most of the general public.

I do think that the stadium should be somewhere on the north side, northwest side or northeast side. Somewhere not in a high crime location in a failed attempt at gentrification.

[John B]

La Cantera is one of the nicest and most upscale areas in San Antonio, next to say, Alamo Heights and the Live Oak area.

It's a mecca for sure. People from all over go to see the quarries, Six Flags Fiesta Texas (one of the better Six Flags parks in the country IMO, I don't care that they built that awful new dive coaster but Iron Rattler is a top 25 roller coaster IMO in the world), UTSA being across the road, and all of the upscale shopping strip malls, HEB, quality healthcare, and other amenities. It's one of the best (and most expensive) areas to live in in SA. Whereas, the AT&T center surrounding area is one of the worst and highest in crime.


Idk about that anymore. Wemby will be in his prime, and winning teams don't relocate. Losing teams like the Sonics which had missed the playoffs 7 of the last 8 years before they relocate, relocate. Perennial playoff teams find a way to stay in place.

The Spurs are an NBA treasure and the Green Bay Packers of the NBA. The Wemby thing cemented that. They will not relocate.

Dubs relocated from Oakland to San Francisco, granted it’s the same Bay Area. But still the city of Oakland and residents saw their 47 years old franchised moved to neighbor San Francisco. That’s like San Antonio to Austin. I don’t think that will happen to San Antonio though, since it has become one of the more successful organizations of any sports, and now Wemby coming to bring that winning tradition back, and projected to be for a very long time. Nah they’re not moving.

[Harry Callahan]

The new guy can buy time for SA to find the best spot for a new arena. As a SA native, I want success for the Spurs and the identity stay attached to that city that actually welcomed a pro-basketball team fifty years ago.

The current one was way oversold about reinvigorating the east side of SA and all the wonderful things that would build around the arena. None of that happened. The County worked out a deal that the City was tepid about. That was almost 25 years ago when that arena deal was done.

[Leetonidas]

what type of area is la cantera......is it ghetto or suburban.......i cant find any info on google it just shows an intersection....

It's a suburban, ritzy area of town. One of the better areas in SA

[Trill Clinton]

It'll be a traffic nightmare if they put it out there.

Next arena needs to be downtown or far Northeast SA, like Cibolo/New Braunfels.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Dubs relocated from Oakland to San Francisco, granted it’s the same Bay Area. But still the city of Oakland and residents saw their 47 years old franchised moved to neighbor San Francisco. That’s like San Antonio to Austin. I don’t think that will happen to San Antonio though, since it has become one of the more successful organizations of any sports, and now Wemby coming to bring that winning tradition back, and projected to be for a very long time. Nah they’re not moving.
No, it's nothing like San Antonio to Austin. Don't be stupid. It's a f**king 8-mile bridge. I drove it in 2021. It's barely more than the distance between the Alamodome and the AT&T Center.

Just because it's a different jurisdiction doesn't mean jack shit. Moving from Oakland to SF would be like moving from the AT&T Center to Alamo Heights.

Something like the 49ers moving from downtown SF to all the way in lower Silicon Valley, Santa Clara... or the Pistons doing the inverse by moving from their long time home in relatively posh Oakland County to downtown Detroit... now that is much more significant than Oakland to SF, which is the same goddamn place just with a toll bridge separating them. Hell the Nets for decades played well on the NJ side of NY and the Jets and Giants still do.

Oakland residents that love their Warriors are rich because they live in the most expensive metro area in the world, so they shouldn't have any qualms about paying a $4 (each way) toll to go see them.


It'll be a traffic nightmare if they put it out there.

Next arena needs to be downtown or far Northeast SA, like Cibolo/New Braunfels.

New Braunfels is a little far. It'd be like the Pistons fans in Detroit complaining about having to go deep into Oakland County to watch the Pistons. Granted that might be a good business move to plop the arena right off I-35 about a third of the way between SA and Austin, because Austin has rapidly exploded into the 11th largest city in the USA, but a lot of the peeps that made it so big are transplants with allegiances to the Warriors and/or Lakers anyway, unfortunately.

[John B]

No, it's nothing like San Antonio to Austin. Don't be stupid. It's a f**king 8-mile bridge. I drove it in 2021. It's barely more than the distance between the Alamodome and the AT&T Center.

Just because it's a different jurisdiction doesn't mean jack shit. Moving from Oakland to SF would be like moving from the AT&T Center to Alamo Heights.

Something like the 49ers moving from downtown SF to all the way in lower Silicon Valley, Santa Clara... or the Pistons doing the inverse by moving from their long time home in relatively posh Oakland County to downtown Detroit... now that is much more significant than Oakland to SF, which is the same goddamn place just with a toll bridge separating them. Hell the Nets for decades played well on the NJ side of NY and the Jets and Giants still do.

Oakland residents that love their Warriors are rich because they live in the most expensive metro area in the world, so they shouldn't have any qualms about paying a $4 (each way) toll to go see them.



New Braunfels is a little far. It'd be like the Pistons fans in Detroit complaining about having to go deep into Oakland County to watch the Pistons. Granted that might be a good business move to plop the arena right off I-35 about a third of the way between SA and Austin, because Austin has rapidly exploded into the 11th largest city in the USA, but a lot of the peeps that made it so big are transplants with allegiances to the Warriors and/or Lakers anyway, unfortunately.

It’s a different city bruh is my point.

[Millennial_Messiah]

But in all serious, moving to the suburbs or within a same metro area doesn't qualify as a relocation. The 49ers just wanted more space, Candlestick was old as dirt, and SF city politics and lack of space made it tough to have an NFL franchise there, similar to why NYC proper doesn't have a franchise playing in a stadium there. Similar to why the Bears are likely to "move" from Soldier Field to a cushy new stadium with a roof in Arlington Heights, Illinois in a few years. Similar to Jerryworld being built in Arlington, which is conveniently the halfway mark between the downtowns of Fort Worth and Dallas. Similar to why the Rams (and Chargers) play in Inglewood and not Hollywood.

Basketball is a little different. Not as much space needed for facilities, amenities, and the stadium itself can be much smaller. Demographically, basketball is a better fit for the inner urban areas than football as well. Building in the city has its merits in basketball and hockey in a way it doesn't in football.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It’s a different city bruh is my point.

Jurisdiction is irrelevant. For how long did the Pistons play in Auburn Hills which is more comparable to Austin in terms of the distance of driving between Detroit and Auburn Hills?

Oakland and SF are the same culturally and would bleed into one another if not for the bay.

[cd98]

I would think that Spurs want it built in a place that has access to NB, SM, and Austin. And I wouldn't be shocked if they wanted it out of the city and in a more central place for the region.

[BatManu20]

As if the traffic and congestion by La Cantera isn’t bad enough already :lol. That would be a nightmare. A new arena, which will be required in the next decade if we want to keep the Spurs in San Antonio, should be built somewhere downtown. Preferably right by the Alamodome, as some have already stated. There’s room to build it there and it just makes sense geographically.

[exstatic]

Jurisdiction is irrelevant. For how long did the Pistons play in Auburn Hills which is more comparable to Austin in terms of the distance of driving between Detroit and Auburn Hills?

Oakland and SF are the same culturally and would bleed into one another if not for the bay.

I think both of them would take mortal offense to that statement.

[DesignatedT]

When the time comes, the city just needs to tear down the Alamodome and build the new Spurs arena there. Infrastructure is already in place and its a great location.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I think both of them would take mortal offense to that statement.

Well, it's true. It didn't always used to be, back in the days before I existed. SF was this hippie artsy fartsy cultural center like modern day Austin or Santa Fe, New Mexico. Known for art, hippie music like the psychedelic stuff, and hippies in general... Oakland for the urban / slightly suburban sprawl and more of a typical US city vibes. Basically people who couldn't afford to live in SF lived in Oakland.

Now it's all the same... Oakland cost of living is close enough to SF that there's barely enough difference or added value of living in Oakland... homeless encampments and drugs, thefts, crime are on both sides of the bay. Are you really more likely to get shot walking solo in Oakland at night than, say, the Tenderloin or almost anywhere else in SF these days?

[Millennial_Messiah]

When the time comes, the city just needs to tear down the Alamodome and build the new Spurs arena there. Infrastructure is already in place and its a great location.

Nah, the Alamodome is a national treasure. I had my high school graduation there many springs ago.

What they should do is carve up the foundation to the Alamo and its surrounding sidewalks and streets, build a VERY deep basement, keep the original building intact, and have fans line up to go through the Alamo itself down into the basement where a huge massive cavernous underground bunker stadium seating up to 50k fans in the Spurs arena alone complete with luxury suites, nosebleed watch zones, restaurants, sump pumps, and an indoor amusement park with family roller coasters for extra revenue. Also, massive underground parking garages that lead from tunnels through highway 90 to the parking garages at the base of the stadium. Would be a great place to hide out when the nukes start flying and Military City USA is in peril.

[Extra Stout]

I would think all the potential locations for a new Missions stadium are also suitable for a new Spurs arena.

Alamodome Lot A
West of SAMA
Fox Tech
Lone Star
La Cantera

The Lone Star site would be cool because it’s right on the river, but my understanding is that logistically it’s not that great.

The city has 9 years to figure it out. The Spurs are willing to leave a good deal of money on the table to stay in San Antonio, but not so much that they’ll be willing to re-up their lease in 2032 at what will then be a 30-year-old arena in a part of town that never developed.

I think the model of late has been for the team and its development partners to put up most of not all of the capital for the arena and the entertainment district, while the local government pays for the supporting infrastructure through taxes. If SA is willing to make that kind of deal, then I think the Spurs will stick around for decades to come. If not, then the increase in franchise valuation from moving to Austin will more than cover the difference for the lack of public funding for an arena up there.

[BackHome]

Yeah I think a lot of cities are having big problems from Covid in that now most companies have to offer remote working as an option to get good qualified candidates. So now more people are moving out of the cities were they used to work and now they can live peacefully in the suburbs.

I am sure some business owns enough land outside of 1604 on 281 with enough land to build a new Arena, and surround it with Hotels, Golf Courses, Bars, and restaurants. I don’t think SA would care just as long as they getting 100% of taxes for all the businesses

[Das Texan]

It needs to be built in conjunction with the new baseball stadium at the old Lone Star Brewery site, tbh as part of a giant entertainment complex.

[Das Texan]

When the time comes, the city just needs to tear down the Alamodome and build the new Spurs arena there. Infrastructure is already in place and its a great location.

Except a lot of that infrastructure is heavily taxed and not designed properly thanks to our wonderful former urban planning mayor who really fucked shit up when designing the Convention Center expansion.

[Twisted_Dawg]

While I would like that since I live near La Cantera, I don't think it's the right area. The arena would preferably be in the middle of downtown but then again anywhere would be better than the ghetto ass area they put it in. But it doesn't matter because SA is not building a new arena anytime soon

Plus the UTSA men and women's basketball teams could play there as well.

[ChumpDumper]

I would think all the potential locations for a new Missions stadium are also suitable for a new Spurs arena.

Alamodome Lot A
West of SAMA
Fox Tech
Lone Star
La Cantera

The Lone Star site would be cool because it’s right on the river, but my understanding is that logistically it’s not that great.

The city has 9 years to figure it out. The Spurs are willing to leave a good deal of money on the table to stay in San Antonio, but not so much that they’ll be willing to re-up their lease in 2032 at what will then be a 30-year-old arena in a part of town that never developed.

I think the model of late has been for the team and its development partners to put up most of not all of the capital for the arena and the entertainment district, while the local government pays for the supporting infrastructure through taxes. If SA is willing to make that kind of deal, then I think the Spurs will stick around for decades to come. If not, then the increase in franchise valuation from moving to Austin will more than cover the difference for the lack of public funding for an arena up there.

Lot A or Fox Tech make the most sense to me for the Spurs. The other sites would seem to need a whole lot more built around them to work. La Cantera makes a lot of sense for the Missions. The burbs are fine for MiLB teams like the Round Rock Express and UTSA baseball could really improve its profile playing a lot of games there.

[playblair]

Also...what new Arena?
san antonio reporter said spurs will move the new arena downtown......
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[John B]

san antonio reporter said spurs will move the new arena downtown......
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Wemby will change San Antonio as all other great players brought changes to their cities. Still he’s only a 19 year old kid with all this lofty expectations. I’m sure the PATFO will make a good job sheltering him from all these pressures, and he could just be himself, playing a simple game of basketball.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

They didn’t build shit around AT&T center which is a damn shame. It’s literally in one of the silliest areas I’ve seen a stadium.

I like a lot of the ideas folks are posting here about where to put a new stadium. I just hope wherever it goes, there is actually things to do around it and public transportation is better than what we have now. I love out here in San Antonio, but I’m not a local. A nice portion of the folks on this site are, so they know better than me.

[The Truth #6]

Lots of NIMBY with how ATT Center location was chosen I have to imagine. Settled on cheaper location and tried to spin it iirc.

A new arena should be near downtown to bring money back into that area imo. But if they build a new one it will be embarrassing to have two mostly empty former arenas fighting over cheerleader championships and Def Leppard concerts. Really, they should raze the Alamo Dome but now UTSA plays there a few times a year so that makes the politics more awkward. Feels like a cluster fuck.

[Extra Stout]

Lots of NIMBY with how ATT Center location was chosen I have to imagine. Settled on cheaper location and tried to spin it iirc.

A new arena should be near downtown to bring money back into that area imo. But if they build a new one it will be embarrassing to have two mostly empty former arenas fighting over cheerleader championships and Def Leppard concerts. Really, they should raze the Alamo Dome but now UTSA plays there a few times a year so that makes the politics more awkward. Feels like a cluster fuck.
I think both facilities would continue to generate enough revenue to justify their upkeep. It won’t become a situation like the Astrodome, which has sat there empty and decaying for 20 years.

[The Truth #6]

I think both facilities would continue to generate enough revenue to justify their upkeep. It won’t become a situation like the Astrodome, which has sat there empty and decaying for 20 years.

I suppose I don’t pay enough attention, but I got the sense the Alamodome doesn’t have an abundance of events there, but again, maybe I’m wrong. But with the new Tobin Center, and their smaller music venue on the south side of town, I do wonder if there’s enough entertainment to fill up all of these places.

[scott]

La Cantera is one of the nicest and most upscale areas in San Antonio, next to say, Alamo Heights and the Live Oak area.

It's a mecca for sure. People from all over go to see the quarries, Six Flags Fiesta Texas (one of the better Six Flags parks in the country IMO, I don't care that they built that awful new dive coaster but Iron Rattler is a top 25 roller coaster IMO in the world), UTSA being across the road, and all of the upscale shopping strip malls, HEB, quality healthcare, and other amenities. It's one of the best (and most expensive) areas to live in in SA. Whereas, the AT&T center surrounding area is one of the worst and highest in crime.


Idk about that anymore. Wemby will be in his prime, and winning teams don't relocate. Losing teams like the Sonics which had missed the playoffs 7 of the last 8 years before they relocate, relocate. Perennial playoff teams find a way to stay in place.

The Spurs are an NBA treasure and the Green Bay Packers of the NBA. The Wemby thing cemented that. They will not relocate.

I left San Antonio in 2019, but unless some crazy shit has happened, I know I didn’t just read that Live Oak is one of the nicer parts of town :lol

[lefty]

Why a new arena lol

[Ocotillo]

I left San Antonio in 2019, but unless some crazy shit has happened, I know I didn’t just read that Live Oak is one of the nicer parts of town :lol

Yeah, I live in SA and my eyebrows raised when I read that.

[scott]

I’m guessing the OP meant Stone Oak.

[Trill Clinton]

I suppose I don’t pay enough attention, but I got the sense the Alamodome doesn’t have an abundance of events there, but again, maybe I’m wrong. But with the new Tobin Center, and their smaller music venue on the south side of town, I do wonder if there’s enough entertainment to fill up all of these places.

Alamodome has plenty of events throughout the year and also converts to the Illusions Theater for mid-sized concerts.

[ChumpDumper]

I suppose I don’t pay enough attention, but I got the sense the Alamodome doesn’t have an abundance of events there, but again, maybe I’m wrong. But with the new Tobin Center, and their smaller music venue on the south side of town, I do wonder if there’s enough entertainment to fill up all of these places.

The Alamodome is still competitive for men's (2025) and women's (2029) Final Fours so there is no rush to tear it down and preclude SA from those events forever.

Aside from that:

6-7 UTSA games plus spring scrimmage

Alamo Bowl

UIL playoffs

5-6 XFL games

Various concerts (3 upcoming in September including Pink and Guns N' Roses)

UIL band competitions

WWE as recent as this year (every five years or so)

Occasional large organization conventions

Certainly enough to keep it around longer. No reason to tear it down just to make an arena that would fit in Lot A. It's a shame nothing could be worked out with MLS. 20+ dates mainly in the summer would've been pretty good. I think they could easily host another college bowl game that is currently languishing in some shit location.

[The Truth #6]

Long live the Alamodome!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It'll be northside, they want to get their teeth into the Austin market more. Somewhere between Windcrest and New Braunfels.

Retama Park over to Nacogdoches area actually makes a lot of sense.

[dbestpro]

Traffic is so tight as it is in all crossroad areas. Building it on the north side or anywhere north of San Antonio to Austin will be one big traffic jam. Maybe more west towards 35S and I10 west would be the ticket. Lots of land where developers would be happy to develop, unlike the east side.

[T Park]

Too much traffic for the area to handle. Knock down that Bill Millers next to the Alamodome and build the arena there

Lol theres a shit more stuff there than just the Bill Millers

[T Park]

Go downtown, go to the older more run down area, build it there and make a giant entertainment area ALA what the Bucks have done.

Use the hotel motel tax and go balls out and talk to the Oakland A’s and get a. Baseball stadium next door built.

[Extra Stout]

Go downtown, go to the older more run down area, build it there and make a giant entertainment area ALA what the Bucks have done.
If you mean the western part of Southtown, at the Lone Star site, I agree — that would be a fantastic location if the logistics could be worked out.


Use the hotel motel tax and go balls out and talk to the Oakland A’s and get a. Baseball stadium next door built.
I think that ship has sailed.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Use the hotel motel tax and go balls out and talk to the Oakland A’s and get a. Baseball stadium next door built.

You mean the Las Vegas A's?

[ChumpDumper]

It'll be northside, they want to get their teeth into the Austin market more. Somewhere between Windcrest and New Braunfels.

Retama Park over to Nacogdoches area actually makes a lot of sense.Regional stadiums work for football but less so for basketball. I don't see many folks from Austin making 7:30 weeknight start times in Schertz with any regularity without something like high speed rail -- and with that it might as well be downtown.

[ChumpDumper]

It'll be northside, they want to get their teeth into the Austin market more. Somewhere between Windcrest and New Braunfels.

Retama Park over to Nacogdoches area actually makes a lot of sense.Regional stadiums work for football but less so for basketball. I don't see many folks from Austin making 7:30 weeknight start times in Schertz with any regularity without something like high speed rail -- and with that it might as well be downtown.

[KobesAchilles]

I mean where in La Cantera would they even put it? They are building so many apartment complexes out there that a lot of the prime real estate is gone. But that side of town is the nice part of SA. It’s more upscale than anything else in the city.
I know Barkley shits in the fat San Antonio women all the time but in the La Cantera/UTSA area are where all the fine girls are at. That was a nice perk about living over there. It’s got great shops and restaurants over there and you can make an actual night of it instead of the shithole where the current arena is at. The only thing by the current arena is one fucking Valero

[Millennial_Messiah]

I left San Antonio in 2019, but unless some crazy shit has happened, I know I didn’t just read that Live Oak is one of the nicer parts of town :lol

Northeast side in general

Compared to the near west side, near east side (where AT&T center is located), or anywhere south of downtown

[PopTheGOAT]

This is just a practice facility. Not sure why there’s people discussing traffic. This will have no effect on traffic. Most of the team lives on the north side so it’d just be more convenient for them. San Antonio’s downtown infrastructure is pretty bad. The only way anything is ever built there is if the Dome gets demoed. SA is expanding towards New Braunfels and north. Those are probably the only areas where major venues will be built.

[BackHome]

No matter where it is built traffic is going to suck in SA it is basically pick which poison ya want.