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Atl Spur
06-12-2023, 10:13 AM
As time continues to pass, it is very clear that our front office operates on a different level than most franchises! NO, Hou, Dallas, Memphis are ALL shit shows as we just plod along in our “Boring” fashion. Enjoy the stability / standards of excellence we’ve created, it’s not the norm…..

The Truth #6
06-12-2023, 10:31 AM
I think having owners that don’t meddle is 70% of it. If the owners are demanding quick success, then the GM’s have to make rash moves to try and present a scenario to keep their job or keep their job on as long as they can. Or just make bad draft picks based on the owner or owner’s failson. I think there’s actually a fair amount of talented and qualified general managers out there, but they just work in a ridiculous environment from these idiotic tech billionaire owners who had one good idea once but then it doesn’t carry over at all to owning a team because it’s a status thing. The spurs ownership group seems to be may be the poorest in the whole league, maybe that’s actually an advantage in some ways.

MultiTroll
06-12-2023, 10:36 AM
Landing DR, Tim and Wemby was genius. :lol

Here's hoping they will surround Wemby as well as they did Tim. :bobo

exstatic
06-12-2023, 10:45 AM
Landing DR, Tim and Wemby was genius. :lol

Here's hoping they will surround Wemby as well as they did Tim. :bobo

That’s where they excel. Don’t underestimate that, because Dallas is currently failing to surround their star player.

Atl Spur
06-12-2023, 10:57 AM
That’s where they excel. Don’t underestimate that, because Dallas is currently failing to surround their star player.

Development is our calling card…

Mr. Body
06-12-2023, 11:01 AM
Barely months ago a lot of this board was like:

- Fire Pop, pop-a-zit, worst ever
- Fire Brian Wright, affirmative action woke hire, stupid, the worst ever

daslicer
06-12-2023, 11:09 AM
I won't say the Spurs FO is great. We'll see how they do the next several years with Wemby.

MultiTroll
06-12-2023, 11:17 AM
I won't say the Spurs FO is great. We'll see how they do the next several years with Wemby.
Surrounding Duncan with....
Pops Pets 2009 2010 Michael Finley etc with virtually no help in the paint
Post Nephew shit show with Pet Bryn Bryn, etc.

Ya lets hope for the best.

FO has had many HUGE successes GNob, Parker, Robt Horry, lets hope they can do it again with this new cast.

GAustex
06-12-2023, 11:31 AM
That Morris brother
Bertrans
And then to top it off
DeMarre Carroll move was pure brilliance

Atl Spur
06-12-2023, 11:47 AM
I won't say the Spurs FO is great. We'll see how they do the next several years with Wemby.

Not perfect but better than most!

Atl Spur
06-12-2023, 11:48 AM
Dejounte trade was pure genius!

Dex
06-12-2023, 11:53 AM
Dejounte trade was pure genius!

In retrospect, it's looking better and better. If we hadn't traded Dejounte, we definitely would not have been in the Wemby sweepstakes.

Rumor mill has it that Atlanta is already considering moving on from Murray.

So long and thanks for all the picks...

MultiTroll
06-12-2023, 11:54 AM
Barely months ago a lot of this board was like:

- Fire Pop, pop-a-zit, worst ever
- Fire Brian Wright, affirmative action woke hire, stupid, the worst ever


That Morris brother
Bertrans
And then to top it off
DeMarre Carroll move was pure brilliance
In a sense their gross incompetence 2018-22.....
lead to the Wemby pick! :toast

Myself I believe someone in ownership / mgmnt summer of 22 said we are not going to have another woke purgatory type b.s. season. You Pop are tanking for Wemby, and that is an order.

Mr. Body
06-12-2023, 12:00 PM
In a sense their gross incompetence 2018-22.....
lead to the Wemby pick! :toast

Myself I believe someone in ownership / mgmnt summer of 22 said we are not going to have another woke purgatory type b.s. season. You Pop are tanking for Wemby, and that is an order.

They basically said it, they were preparing in case of a hit in the lottery. They were trying to develop talent without tanking, which can kill development. Meanwhile they were creating assets and cap room

Russ
06-12-2023, 12:07 PM
As time continues to pass, it is very clear that our front office operates on a different level than most franchises! NO, Hou, Dallas, Memphis are ALL shit shows as we just plod along in our “Boring” fashion. Enjoy the stability / standards of excellence we’ve created, it’s not the norm…..

:toast

Luck helps too.

rascal
06-12-2023, 12:16 PM
Not perfect but better than most!

Extremely lucky Front Office

Kind of hard not to win when Robinson and Duncan fall into your lap.

baseline bum
06-12-2023, 12:25 PM
Barely months ago a lot of this board was like:

- Fire Pop, pop-a-zit, worst ever
- Fire Brian Wright, affirmative action woke hire, stupid, the worst ever

Half the board still wants to fire Pop because they're snowflakes butthurt he doesn't like Trump

Atl Spur
06-12-2023, 12:42 PM
Extremely lucky Front Office

Kind of hard not to win when Robinson and Duncan fall into your lap.

That’s not true….. plenty of franchises have had hof players and not won a damn thing. Stop with the over simplification( super lame ) perspective.

buttsR4rebounding
06-12-2023, 12:58 PM
That Morris brother
Bertrans
And then to top it off
DeMarre Carroll move was pure brilliance

I've been a critic of PATFO for several years, but you have to give credit when earned. "That Morris brother" and "Bertrans" were the same deal. And if you can't trust a guy's agent (who subsequently fired him as a client) then it is damn near impossible to due business in the NBA. Sure, DeMarre Carrol was a shit show, but a really, really, really minor one in the scheme of things. I would say for the last 2 years they have been gold with trades and draft picks and signings. The only negative during the last 2 years of any significance was Primo, but that is dwarfed by the positives. For now they have earned the benefit of the doubt from me.

Atl Spur
06-12-2023, 01:04 PM
Half the board still wants to fire Pop because they're snowflakes butthurt he doesn't like Trump

If Trump was an old black man, would those same followers still be acting so “Patriotic”? I think not…. At some point people gotta cut the BS!

poopbox
06-12-2023, 01:06 PM
Wemby and the Atlanta Hawks saved this front office ass :lmao

Imagine how this front office looks if we got the 5th pick instead of the the 1st pick :lmao

Former players beating porn stars and pulling they dicks out at work :lmao

Are we finally done paying Demare Carroll :lmao

Atl Spur
06-12-2023, 01:08 PM
I've been a critic of PATFO for several years, but you have to give credit when earned. "That Morris brother" and "Bertrans" were the same deal. And if you can't trust a guy's agent (who subsequently fired him as a client) then it is damn near impossible to due business in the NBA. Sure, DeMarre Carrol was a shit show, but a really, really, really minor one in the scheme of things. I would say for the last 2 years they have been gold with trades and draft picks and signings. The only negative during the last 2 years of any significance was Primo, but that is dwarfed by the positives. For now they have earned the benefit of the doubt from me.

Primo was not a miss due to basketball…. Furthermore pick 12 historically is not money in the bank!

Atl Spur
06-12-2023, 01:12 PM
Wemby and the Atlanta Hawks saved this front office ass :lmao

Imagine how this front office looks if we got the 5th pick instead of the the 1st pick :lmao

Former players beating porn stars and pulling they dicks out at work :lmao

Are we finally done paying Demare Carroll :lmao

You might want to do your homework sport regarding nba franchise salary caps and drafted players. Your position holds no water…..not a drop!

scott
06-12-2023, 03:04 PM
I think having owners that don’t meddle is 70% of it. If the owners are demanding quick success, then the GM’s have to make rash moves to try and present a scenario to keep their job or keep their job on as long as they can. Or just make bad draft picks based on the owner or owner’s failson. I think there’s actually a fair amount of talented and qualified general managers out there, but they just work in a ridiculous environment from these idiotic tech billionaire owners who had one good idea once but then it doesn’t carry over at all to owning a team because it’s a status thing. The spurs ownership group seems to be may be the poorest in the whole league, maybe that’s actually an advantage in some ways.

Winning early in Pop and Duncan's careers helped set the stage for hand-offs ownership. We've been successful because they are hands off, but they are hands off because we've been successful. It will be interesting to see how hands-off the ownership stays once Pop is gone. This ownership group hasn't had an opportunity to meddle, because Pop would probably quit if they did.

Ed Helicopter Jones
06-12-2023, 03:07 PM
Barely months ago a lot of this board was like:

- Fire Pop, pop-a-zit, worst ever
- Fire Brian Wright, affirmative action woke hire, stupid, the worst ever

Never really understood (or understand) the Pop hate from Spurs' "fans".

But Wright had to win me over, though, I must admit. He constructed some pretty favorable trades the last couple of years that convinced me he's solid.

mo7888
06-12-2023, 03:12 PM
Never really understood (or understand) the Pop hate from Spurs' "fans".

But Wright had to win me over, though, I must admit. He constructed some pretty favorable trades the last couple of years that convinced me he's solid.

Some people hate Pop because they dont have the ability to seperate his politics from his coaching. They only view someone's professional worth through their own political lens.

RC_Drunkford
06-12-2023, 03:45 PM
I think the FO has been terrible from 2017 free agency with the 50 Mills and Gasol deals until the DeRozan/Bryn Forbes era came to an end in 2021. I've said that many times. But since then the FO has done everything they could to aquire and flip assets, pulled every rabbit possible out the hat and made very good moves for the past 2 years. They have earned my trust back.

CorrectCrusader
06-12-2023, 04:37 PM
Some people hate Pop because they dont have the ability to seperate his politics from his coaching. They only view someone's professional worth through their own political lens.
Idk man those Bryn Forbes lineups were rough to watch for years

mo7888
06-12-2023, 05:06 PM
Idk man those Bryn Forbes lineups were rough to watch for years

Touché

Truckules
06-12-2023, 05:12 PM
I think the FO has been terrible from 2017 free agency with the 50 Mills and Gasol deals until the DeRozan/Bryn Forbes era came to an end in 2021. I've said that many times. But since then the FO has done everything they could to aquire and flip assets, pulled every rabbit possible out the hat and made very good moves for the past 2 years. They have earned my trust back.

They did what worked when Tim, Tony, and Manu were in their prime. I feel like the FO had to go through a "mourning" for the Big Three before they finally moved on.

CGD
06-12-2023, 05:18 PM
^ maybe but my sense is that around the start of the LMA era they had already actively chosen a strategy focused on building the team around Leonard. We will never know whether it would have worked, but it’s clear 1) they wanted to see if they could salvage it with DDR, and 2) they probably waited at least a year too long to shift strategies again and start the rebuild.

But once they did, my hats are off to them. The track record is there.

exstatic
06-12-2023, 05:19 PM
^ maybe but my sense is that around the start of the LMA era they had already actively chosen a strategy focused on building the team around Leonard. We will never know whether it would have worked, but it’s clear 1) they wanted to see if they could salvage it with DDR, and 2) they probably waited at least a year too long to shift strategies again and start the rebuild.

But once they did, my hats are off to them. The track record is there.

Why would they want to win the 2022 lottery?

MultiTroll
06-12-2023, 05:23 PM
Why would they want to win the 2022 lottery?
While i think it's pretty much a given Wama is the bigger score then Chet, had we landed healthy Chet that may not have been a bad score either.

Moving fwd, i don't know if the NBA will ever know how good Chet could have been.
He's not the same, that's for sure. I don't care what modern medicine is available, Chet pre injury had more potential then Chet post foot blowout.
Hope he does well.
Hope Wama does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>better.

JPB
06-12-2023, 05:25 PM
They did what worked when Tim, Tony, and Manu were in their prime. I feel like the FO had to go through a "mourning" for the Big Three before they finally moved on.

That's my vision of things too. I remember mentioning that a little while a go and when you think anout it, that makes sense and often happens in sports. It's hard to transition from a period of massave success. It's like you have to process it and wait a little before moving on and going on another direction, like you have a hard time erasing the past and changing your philosophy since this is who you have successively been for so long...

baseline bum
06-12-2023, 05:27 PM
I think having owners that don’t meddle is 70% of it. If the owners are demanding quick success, then the GM’s have to make rash moves to try and present a scenario to keep their job or keep their job on as long as they can. Or just make bad draft picks based on the owner or owner’s failson. I think there’s actually a fair amount of talented and qualified general managers out there, but they just work in a ridiculous environment from these idiotic tech billionaire owners who had one good idea once but then it doesn’t carry over at all to owning a team because it’s a status thing. The spurs ownership group seems to be may be the poorest in the whole league, maybe that’s actually an advantage in some ways.

Sometimes the ultra rich types are super cheap, like McCombs when he owned the team.

baseline bum
06-12-2023, 05:29 PM
I think the FO has been terrible from 2017 free agency with the 50 Mills and Gasol deals until the DeRozan/Bryn Forbes era came to an end in 2021. I've said that many times. But since then the FO has done everything they could to aquire and flip assets, pulled every rabbit possible out the hat and made very good moves for the past 2 years. They have earned my trust back.

The Gasol deal was an agreement they had to get him to opt out when they were chasing CP0. That little fucker acting like he was interested and then oops I forced a trade to Houston instead really screwed the Spurs into a 3 year deal instead of one year on Gasol.

MultiTroll
06-12-2023, 05:48 PM
The Gasol deal ..... chasing CP0. That little fucker acting like he was interested and then oops I forced a trade to Houston
Two shit stains they should have never been pursuing.

Poppeds idiotic love of CPO and then rewarding Gasol after he spurned the Spurs offer in Summer of 12? 12? 14? so he could go stat pad with the Bulls. Should have told him to go F himself. Then to reward his ass with a fat buyout. SMH.

Telling DJ Murray to pattern his game after CPO. What a fucked up strategy. Prolly set DJ back at least a year.
Ya lets cut with the PATFO worship.

Onward to the Wama era and a return to kick ass FO moves.
Bring in the new GNob, Parker and Robert Horry.

scott
06-12-2023, 06:27 PM
While i think it's pretty much a given Wama is the bigger score then Chet, had we landed healthy Chet that may not have been a bad score either.

Moving fwd, i don't know if the NBA will ever know how good Chet could have been.
He's not the same, that's for sure. I don't care what modern medicine is available, Chet pre injury had more potential then Chet post foot blowout.
Hope he does well.
Hope Wama does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>better.

Interesting you (apparently, correct me if I'm wrong) would have picked Chet over Paulo had we won the lotto last year.

If we win the lotto last year (IMO), we take Banchero, don't trade DJM, don't trade Jak, and have a team that probably caps out about the 6 seed without the assets needed to make a huge leap. Wouldn't have been the worst, but still would have not been awesome.

Mr. Body
06-12-2023, 06:30 PM
Some people hate Pop because they dont have the ability to seperate his politics from his coaching. They only view someone's professional worth through their own political lens.

I mean, those are people who get mad that green M&Ms aren't sexy enough.

The Truth #6
06-12-2023, 06:37 PM
Winning early in Pop and Duncan's careers helped set the stage for hand-offs ownership. We've been successful because they are hands off, but they are hands off because we've been successful. It will be interesting to see how hands-off the ownership stays once Pop is gone. This ownership group hasn't had an opportunity to meddle, because Pop would probably quit if they did.

I suppose it depends who the majority stakeholder is, but you think Holt Jr. is going to start telling Wright whom to draft? Personally, I don’t see that. But someone like Elon Musk, sure.

scott
06-12-2023, 06:45 PM
I suppose it depends who the majority stakeholder is, but you think Holt Jr. is going to start telling Wright whom to draft? Personally, I don’t see that. But someone like Elon Musk, sure.

Honestly... who knows? I'd say Holt Jr. has been making some business moves that are more in line with modern organizational management than his father, who ran the Spurs in a very good-ol'-boys kind of way. Jr's strategic alignment with certain capital partners and sponsors, aggressively pursuing growth avenues for the fanbase (Austin, Mexico City), the development of the Rock, etc., all indicate a higher level of strategic involvement than his father.

Does that mean Jr thinks he should start weighing in on personnel? No, of course not... but it does suggest that he is more involved, and maybe that involvement one day does lead to those kind of thoughts. Right now, he is probably comfortable taking a backseat because Pop and RC have things under control... but what happens when they are gone? We'll find out eventually.

RC_Drunkford
06-12-2023, 07:02 PM
I can‘t even be mad at them starting the rebuild late since we landed Wemby. Obviously a lot of luck involved, but it worked out perfectly

JPB
06-12-2023, 07:25 PM
I can‘t even be mad at them starting the rebuild late since we landed Wemby. Obviously a lot of luck involved, but it worked out perfectly

Maybe waiting for a game changer was part of the plan. They've probably been following victor since he's 15, which would be quite the master plan...

CGD
06-12-2023, 07:47 PM
Why would they want to win the 2022 lottery?

Starting the the rebuild =/= winning lotto

MarCowMar
06-12-2023, 07:49 PM
The DeRozan trade to Chicago marked the turnaround point for the front office. The following trades of Young, White, and Murray restored my confidence.

The hallmark of the Spurs front office move: it benefits the franchise and doesn't feel like the owner forced it out of emotion or the GM did it out of fear of losing their job.

I don't think anyone would give the time period between Leonard and the DeRozan trade very high marks as far as front office work goes... The only explanation I can work out is maybe they felt obligated to Aldridge to be competitive in his final years?

MultiTroll
06-12-2023, 07:51 PM
Interesting you (apparently, correct me if I'm wrong) would have picked Chet over Paulo had we won the lotto last year.

If we win the lotto last year (IMO), we take Banchero, don't trade DJM, don't trade Jak, and have a team that probably caps out about the 6 seed without the assets needed to make a huge leap. Wouldn't have been the worst, but still would have not been awesome.
We agree we're 100 speculating retroactively. Unless you do have the Back to the Future Delorian.
So, if we are to assume the Spurs were going to have pick #7 in 2023 and thus entirely miss out on Wama, then in retro yes i would have taken Chet over Banchero.
Chet before injury >>>>> this seasons 2023 #2 - 14 pick imo.
Admittedly I saw only a couple full Duke games and he laid absolute eggs including blowing the win on O and D in the latter game i saw. Very unimpressive. Well obviously he had some good games at Duke and does look like he's made the transition to NBA better then 90% of rookies.

Saw plenty of Chet.
Really liked what i saw.
Had i had full tapes of Banchero getting paid 200K+ a year to be on the Spurs scouting team, perhaps i would have chosen Banchero.

Again, i don't believe we will ever know what Chet would have been. Here's to hoping the latest/greatest in sports injury medicine has him back beginning this season.

Out of the Delorean, thankfully we now get to see what develops with Wemby.

John B
06-12-2023, 08:18 PM
Landing DR, Tim and Wemby was genius. :lol

Here's hoping they will surround Wemby as well as they did Tim. :bobo

How much talent are we talking about? I love TP and Manu, but let me play the devil’s advocate here. I think Timmy would have won more. Let’s just put aside Timmy’s personality. Supposing he got greedy and wanted to take the easier path like LeSoft colluding with other Stars. There’s an arguement that he could’ve won more rings and probably surpassed MJ’s ring count and possibly be the GOAT. Timmy wasn’t like that. But we don’t know Wemby. He did mention he wanted to win rings asap. The Spurs ownership has to think how much willing to spend over the luxury taxes if ever to support that quest. It’s not the Spurs way BECAUSE that wasn’t Timmy. Wemby is a different beast. He is “the best prospect ever” possibly in all sports. He is already being dubbed as possibly a GOAT in the making. Spurs ownership has a lot of things to think about how far they are willing to ride that quest if ever.

RC_Drunkford
06-12-2023, 10:33 PM
The DeRozan trade to Chicago marked the turnaround point for the front office. The following trades of Young, White, and Murray restored my confidence.

The hallmark of the Spurs front office move: it benefits the franchise and doesn't feel like the owner forced it out of emotion or the GM did it out of fear of losing their job.

I don't think anyone would give the time period between Leonard and the DeRozan trade very high marks as far as front office work goes... The only explanation I can work out is maybe they felt obligated to Aldridge to be competitive in his final years?

No they wanted the consecutive playoff appearances record

lefty20
06-12-2023, 10:34 PM
No they wanted the consecutive playoff appearances record

Trynna get Pop the all time Wins record prolly played a part as well, imo.

scott
06-12-2023, 10:48 PM
Trynna get Pop the all time Wins record prolly played a part as well, imo.

And fascinatingly, it worked out so perfectly he's going to be able to pad that stat by probably another 100-200 games if he sticks around another 3-5 years.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-12-2023, 10:53 PM
Light years CROFLMAO

Atl Spur
06-15-2023, 11:20 AM
One week until we get this off-season popping…….

Make sure you post an expected grade for this off-season vs an actual once it is all said and done:)

scott
06-15-2023, 06:13 PM
One week until we get this off-season popping…….

Make sure you post an expected grade for this off-season vs an actual once it is all said and done:)

Draft Wemby: Automatic A+
Draft anyone else: Automatic F-

tim_duncan_fan
06-15-2023, 06:13 PM
Brian living up to his name, tbh.



Draft Wemby: Automatic A+
Draft anyone else: Automatic F-

We have 2 other picks. We shouldn't draft anyone with those?


lol I love language

scott
06-15-2023, 06:46 PM
Brian living up to his name, tbh.




We have 2 other picks. We shouldn't draft anyone with those?


lol I love language

Use both picks to just go up and draft Wemby again. When they say you can't do that, just scream in their face WE DRAFT WEMBY

Seventyniner
06-15-2023, 08:03 PM
Use both picks to just go up and draft Wemby again. When they say you can't do that, just scream in their face WE DRAFT WEMBY

Trade a huge bag for the #2 pick, then take Scoot #1 and Wemby #2. Just to be dicks about it.

Atl Spur
06-16-2023, 08:53 PM
Hell naw! Lol

NickiRasgo
06-16-2023, 09:47 PM
Not at the same level as OKC (Presti) or Jazz (Ainge) when it comes to bargaining but it's quality over quantity. Spurs got their target, a generational talent in the draft while OKC and Jazz future pick/s are still unknown which is the same with Spurs. Sure ton of assets are nice but for me, at some point a team will be forced to sell it cheap due to saturation (this past season shows it in the trade deadline) since it'll be complicated for them to keep those once they'll sign the player/s being drafted but it would help tho in getting an immediate star or big name by trading picks.

So yes, they did a fine job recently (started with Derozan trade) considering they did a poor job during Kawhi trade. Although they got a setback by drafting Primo but to be fair, after Primo the best (and a lot expected the Spurs to be drafted) was only Sengun. Sengun while he's decent statistically but I'm not sure if he's the type of player you would include along the way in contending but won't hurt having him by converting him to another asset/s so still better than nothing.

K...
06-16-2023, 09:49 PM
man i kinda hate winning the lottery because it makes spursfans think like winning is destiny. Anytime OTHER than winning the lottery to draft a wemby or lebron you'd take two late prime all stars and roll your chances. it's not set in stone that derozan couldn't learn to shoot or that LMA would have a wonky emo heart, they are both great players that didn't reach the HOF level spursfans expect.

Also it isn't a mark against the Front Office that they preferred a first round fodder level over tanking if thats what they wanted. If you wanted tanking that's your opinion but there were a lot of shit drafts between kawhi and wemby.

SequSpur
06-18-2023, 10:52 PM
Sengun sucks.

couchman
06-19-2023, 04:30 AM
I think the FO failed to pivot after the Kawhi backstabbing because they didn’t want it to set the franchise back to zero. Up until Nephew screwed us the FO had done everything required to keep the dynasty going for another 5+ years. It’s easy to say in retrospect that they should have tanked then, because it’s obvious now. But they probably figured it was worth finding out whether Pop could weave magic with the roster they had left. You can also argue that the fan base would have been in open revolt to go from title contender to tanking in just over a year. The run through mediocrity certainly lasted too long after that though. We’re lucky as hell to tank once and get a potential superstar.

exstatic
06-19-2023, 08:31 AM
I think the FO failed to pivot after the Kawhi backstabbing because they didn’t want it to set the franchise back to zero. Up until Nephew screwed us the FO had done everything required to keep the dynasty going for another 5+ years. It’s easy to say in retrospect that they should have tanked then, because it’s obvious now. But they probably figured it was worth finding out whether Pop could weave magic with the roster they had left. You can also argue that the fan base would have been in open revolt to go from title contender to tanking in just over a year. The run through mediocrity certainly lasted too long after that though. We’re lucky as hell to tank once and get a potential superstar.

They did it right. If they had tanked earlier, we wouldn’t have Wemby. Things workout the way they’re supposed to.

Atl Spur
06-19-2023, 08:41 AM
I think the FO failed to pivot after the Kawhi backstabbing because they didn’t want it to set the franchise back to zero. Up until Nephew screwed us the FO had done everything required to keep the dynasty going for another 5+ years. It’s easy to say in retrospect that they should have tanked then, because it’s obvious now. But they probably figured it was worth finding out whether Pop could weave magic with the roster they had left. You can also argue that the fan base would have been in open revolt to go from title contender to tanking in just over a year. The run through mediocrity certainly lasted too long after that though. We’re lucky as hell to tank once and get a potential superstar.

Our fans are spoiled as hell:) We suffered really through just one totally trash season….

rascal
06-19-2023, 08:42 AM
I think the FO failed to pivot after the Kawhi backstabbing because they didn’t want it to set the franchise back to zero. Up until Nephew screwed us the FO had done everything required to keep the dynasty going for another 5+ years. It’s easy to say in retrospect that they should have tanked then, because it’s obvious now. But they probably figured it was worth finding out whether Pop could weave magic with the roster they had left. You can also argue that the fan base would have been in open revolt to go from title contender to tanking in just over a year. The run through mediocrity certainly lasted too long after that though. We’re lucky as hell to tank once and get a potential superstar.

The Spurs haven't been in mediocrity for very long. They really weren't bad for too long. Other franchises have been stuck in mediocrity for much longer.

It's very surprising how the fans bailed so quickly on the Spurs when they went into their rebuild.

Spur fans can't support a loser as long as other franchises have so the idea that they are such great fans doesn't hold up.

Mr. Body
06-19-2023, 08:51 AM
The Spurs tried to remain competitive while developing young players, who they flipped for assets when they could. It worked out because these players learned how to play basketball instead of being losers. White and Murray wouldn't have gotten them anything if they were playing on fifteen win teams because they would have kissing mentalities and no skills.

CorrectCrusader
06-19-2023, 10:45 AM
If Trump was an old black man, would those same followers still be acting so “Patriotic”? I think not…. At some point people gotta cut the BS!

If my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle

CorrectCrusader
06-19-2023, 11:01 AM
The Spurs haven't been in mediocrity for very long. They really weren't bad for too long. Other franchises have been stuck in mediocrity for much longer.

It's very surprising how the fans bailed so quickly on the Spurs when they went into their rebuild.

Spur fans can't support a loser as long as other franchises have so the idea that they are such great fans doesn't hold up.

Just means we have standards. Imagine being a wizards or suns fan lol

Atl Spur
06-19-2023, 11:01 AM
If my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle

Great point……

Atl Spur
06-21-2023, 09:48 AM
Two days :) let’s go!!!!

exstatic
06-21-2023, 10:47 AM
Two days :) let’s go!!!!

Draft is tomorrow.

Atl Spur
06-21-2023, 12:04 PM
One day….lol let’s still go shall we?

Atl Spur
06-21-2023, 01:59 PM
Damn it Celtics!!! 0/1. Nice pickup for them:)

Atl Spur
10-21-2023, 11:33 PM
Can I have a medal or something for my work on this board? I’ve really helped some people…. Smdh