Spurs Trade Pick #33 to the Timberwolves for Two Future Second Round Picks

[timvp]

Bruh.

Don't love it with Rupert on the board.

[Gibbz]

Maybe they would have kept it if Nick Smith Jr. was still there. Anyway, it's not a night to hang your head about a 2RP. It's Wembanyama Day!

[SpursFan86]

On a night we got Wemby, Spurs somehow managed to piss me off. Seriously? Rupert/Amari Bailey/Colby Jones/Andre Jackson would’ve all been great. Why the fuck do we need another two 2nd rounders???

[ATXSpursfan]

So much talent sitting there. Ugh. I guess we really just dont think its better than what we already have occupying roster spots. Not sure how i feel about this, we already have too many future picks.

[Rubberducky]

Yea that’s what the Spurs need, MOAR future seconds.

[Chinook]

In a way I understand it. The Spurs liked the depth of last year and used their picks to get that depth rather than getting picks for this year. Them selling this pick was more likely than them selling 44 (though that can still happen). I felt like the draft sort of broke in their favor, but given how they didn't make any of the available moves to climb up, I think they just didn't like folks past the very top.

This increases the odds of the Spurs bringing back a lot of the bottom half of their roster. Though as I mentioned, it might also be an indicator that the team is willing to spend on free agents. Just seems dumb to keep kicking cans down the road when the roster crunch is only likely to get worse.

[Mr. Body]

Well, I don't get it at all. The team has way too many SRPs as it is and there's clearly talent available.

I only hope they have a plan for the PG spot.

[spurraider21]

:lmao

holt saw how much the lakers paid to move up in the seconds and now he just wants to stockpile more 2s

what a lazy and unimaginative use of their draft capital. They’ve just been on the sauce since winning the lottery. Meanwhile the mavs are sharks and getting what they want

[BatManu20]

Can’t believe I just sat here for 3 hours waiting for that pick just to get cucked by the Spurs :lol

Should've known tbh.

[Seventyniner]

It's hard to imagine either of those future seconds being a better player than whoever ends up being available at #33 tonight. But I guess the Spurs just didn't like what they saw, or feared a short term roster glut.

With so many future seconds already in their pocket this just doesn't make sense. Maybe the Spurs can get in on a reverse Josh Richardson or Gary Payton II trade where they send out a bunch of seconds for someone they really want now?

[NASpurs]

They already have enough young talent is my thinking. Probably going to use those picks as capital I guess.

[ace3g]

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Sources: The Wolves are sending the Spurs their 2028 2nd rounder and Utah's 2026 second-rounder to get 33.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Minnesota have a couple of juicy Utah seconds, hope it's at least one of them included.

It wasn't that surprising they didn't want another rookie on the roster. If they think someone like Champagnie, or someone else they have rights to, is a better prospect than those available at 33 then it makes sense to keep them.

[FkLA]

FIRE Brian Wrong

[Extra Stout]

I think the plan is to “see what they have,” find out it’s not great, go 29-53, and draft in the lottery again to get a second star.

[Mugen]

:lol Winning the lottery and getting Wemby made me forget for a bit that at the end of the day, this is a cheap ass organization with an unimaginative front office.

This dumbass team will probably end up bringing back Dieng and KBD to take up valuable roster spots.

Not moving up was already joke, trading away #33 is an absolute clown show :lol

[The Truth #6]

Seems weird.

[BatManu20]

Just a stupid deal around tbh. We literally have 20 SRP‘s over the next 6 years. The last thing we need are more SRP’s. There were still a handful of good prospects that would’ve been available at 33. Spurs are in no position to be turning away potential legitimate talent unless they have a trade or something else lined up. That was dumb.

[Mr. Body]

Those seconds are going to be in the 40s or possibly worse.

What was the deal with Amari Bailey? I never got a sense of why he wasn't valued at all. I can see passing on Rupert. He kind of does the same things Blake Wesley does.

[Chinook]

Should also be a lesson to folks who want the Spurs to horde their firsts. They haven't been able to get good value for their picks when they don't want to draft. They are much more likely to package them for a bunch of meh future value or sell them than use them on decent players. You have to trust their ability to know who they want in a draft, but their overall asset management doesn't look great so far.

[Mr. Body]

It's like they were looking for Strawther or something and bailed when he was gone.

And what's the deal with Leonard Miller? Why did he drop?

[FkLA]

Can’t believe I just sat here for 3 hours waiting for that pick just to get cucked by the Spurs :lol

Should've known tbh.

same :lol :pctoss

[timvp]

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Sources: The Wolves are sending the Spurs their 2028 2nd rounder and Utah's 2026 second-rounder to get 33.

At least the picks are pushed out in the future and they both could be pretty high.

Obviously not a huge deal in the big picture but I would have expected at least three SRPs for 33.

[Seventyniner]

Should also be a lesson to folks who want the Spurs to horde their firsts. They haven't been able to get good value for their picks when they don't want to draft. They are much more likely to package them for a bunch of meh future value or sell them than use them on decent players. You have to trust their ability to know who they want in a draft, but their overall asset management doesn't look great so far.

It's like a nit in a poker tournament. It's okay to be patient to an extent, but eventually you have to take some risks or you'll be blinded off. In this case that means stuck with a ton of seconds and no roster space for them.

[Mugen]

Please let them sell 44 for cash. That would validate my hate boner for this FO since they phoned in "Wembanyama" 3 hours ago :lol

[ace3g]

Wolves selecting Leonard Miller with Spurs' pick.

[spurraider21]

Should also be a lesson to folks who want the Spurs to horde their firsts. They haven't been able to get good value for their picks when they don't want to draft. They are much more likely to package them for a bunch of meh future value or sell them than use them on decent players. You have to trust their ability to know who they want in a draft, but their overall asset management doesn't look great so far.
bring in hinkie as a front office consultant

[BatManu20]

Wolves just took Leonard Miller with our pick.

[Mr. Body]

Guessing the 44 is getting sold off too.

Weird. Wonder what happened with the 11 pick, if the Thunder sniffed out a Cason Wallace pick, jumped and took him, then the Spurs just left any deal they had with Orlando. Did they only value Wallace?

Odd.

[Mugen]

I need the Sniff crew to spin selling #44 for cash when it inevitably happens tbh :lol

[Mugen]

God I hope Miller becomes really really good.

[timvp]

Leonard Miller for two second rounders. Hopefully that doesn't look terrible in hindsight :lol

[Seventyniner]

Imagine being Leonard Miller, thinking you're going to the Spurs only to find out you're being shipped to Minnesota. I wouldn't want to be the one to break that news to him.

[Mr. Body]

tbh Leonard Miller is pretty much a disaster on defense. He'd be a major project.

[Mr. Body]

Imagine being Leonard Miller, thinking you're going to the Spurs only to find out you're being shipped to Minnesota. I wouldn't want to be the one to break that news to him.

Well, he's from Canada. Probably likes the snow.

[CGD]

They must like there existing 2 way players, and the picks they got in the future are nice.

As we saw at the last deadline, SRPs are emerging as important currency and being sent off in 4-pick bundles it seems. Doesnt hurt to have more. Plus theyre SRPs, lol. Come on now.

[Thomas82]

It's like they were looking for Strawther or something and bailed when he was gone.

And what's the deal with Leonard Miller? Why did he drop?

I see the Wolves just took Miller at 33.

[objective]

Very disappointing.

Have to be thankful that Wemby was enough of a consensus #1 that they didn't grab another Primo or Anthony Bennett.

[Degoat]

Chill guys, it’s just a 2nd round pick we got Wemby lol we knew that was a possibility, everyone pointed at the need for a PG but the spurs drafted on last year. Blake Wesley! They aren’t giving up on him after 1 year

[spurraider21]

Imagine getting fleeced by the front office who was on that end of the gobert trade

[timvp]

If the Spurs can get Rupert, Bailey, Walsh, Cissoko or Lundy on a two-way contract with pick 44, all is forgiven :lol

[Mugen]

You never know, maybe one of those future 2nds from Minny becomes a 32nd pick in a shittier draft :lol

[Degoat]

Chill guys, it’s just a 2nd round pick we got Wemby lol we knew that was a possibility, everyone pointed at the need for a PG but the spurs drafted on last year. Blake Wesley! They aren’t giving up on him after 1 year

[Mugen]

If the Spurs can get Rupert, Bailey, Walsh, Cissoko or Lundy on a two-way contract with pick 44, all is forgiven :lol

If they sell it for cash, can you just hint that maybe the FO f'd up a little bit in the post draft column? :lol

[mexicanjunior]

They always manage to do some stupid shit.

[rascal]

At least the picks are pushed out in the future and they both could be pretty high.

Obviously not a huge deal in the big picture but I would have expected at least three SRPs for 33.

That's dumb logic when they traded a high second round pick for the chance that the picks could be high second round picks.

[Mr. Body]

If the Spurs can get Rupert, Bailey, Walsh, Cissoko or Lundy on a two-way contract with pick 44, all is forgiven :lol

The Spurs annouce they have traded the #44 pick for a pack of Pokemon cards.

[RC_Drunkford]

They must like there existing 2 way players, and the picks they got in the future are nice.

As we saw at the last deadline, SRPs are emerging as important currency and being sent off in 4-pick bundles it seems. Doesnt hurt to have more. Plus theyre SRPs, lol. Come on now.

#33 is not far off from #30 which is a first rounder though

[Mnky]

None of these guys are better than what the spurs currently have being developed tbh. They had three first round picks last year that are all better and need the time. They also picked up two or three more players that showed tons of promise in champ, Mamu, and Bassey that are all better than any of these prospects and know the system. Someone's bound to hit the lucky charm, but there isn't anything demanding of investment left. It's been reported it wasn't likely spurs held on to the 2nd rounders for a reason.

[Mr. Body]

Still shaping up for some good players at 44, but it really feels like they're bailing.

[MI21]

I understand the amount of picks the Spurs have in the pipeline, so I don't mind trading it, but for two seconds. Honestly, how many seconds do we need ffs.

[Bruno]

So Spurs will have 5 second round picks in 2028 (San Antonio, Denver, Minny, Miami and New Orleans)...

It looks super useful..

[offset formation]

Anyone recall the thread (no clue which one) where I argued that 2nd round picks were basically useless, unless they were right at the top, and kind of got torched for it by a majority on here, yet many are making the same argument tonight. Just an observation more than anything else.

I repeat, second rounders more often than not on average shake out of the league within 2 years.

So my hope is that we accumulate enough to trade it for at least a mid to late round trade up in a future draft or that several will be packaged as filler in a future sign and trade for a free agent down the road.

[Mugen]

What a stark reminder that BWrong is still the GM :lol

[Mr. Body]

Hunter Tyson above Trayce Jackson-Davis?

I thought TJD would be a great pick for Denver.

[Mr. Body]

Anyone recall the thread (no clue which one) where I argued that 2nd round picks were basically useless, unless they were right at the top, and kind of got torched for it by a majority on here, yet many are making the same argument tonight. Just an observation more than anything else.

I repeat, second rounders more often than not on average shake out of the league within 2 years.

So my hope is that we accumulate enough to trade it for at least a mid to late round trade up in a future draft or that several will be packaged as filler in a future sign and trade for a free agent down the road.

They're becoming much more valuable with the new CBA. Teams need cheap contracts badly. But as they start unwinding their bad contracts, we might see their value diminish once again.

[Davidicus]

Goes to show PATFO really is serious in assessing Wemby and how the current roster pieces fit before making ANY moves. At 33, they must have perceived risk too high/ability to make the right call too low, even with decent talent on the board, vs doubling up their chips for later once they know what they’re looking for.

[objective]

Wemby increases franchise value by one billion, yet Spurs still so cheap they're going to sell off 44 aren't they?

[BatManu20]

Honestly drafting someone at 33 and them turning out to be a bust/wasted pick is still better than trading for future SRP’s that are likely to be in the 40’s at best, especially when you already have 20 damn SRP’s over the next 6 years to begin with tbh. There’s simply no reason to collect this many SRP’s. They become useless after awhile, unless they’re in top-5 of the 2nd Round, like the one we just traded :lol

[Mr. Body]

What a stark reminder that BWrong is still the GM :lol

Isn't he the guy who got that package for Murray and got stuff for a departing Poeltl? The summer doesn't end with the draft.

[The Truth #6]

Hopefully my guy Walsh is who they want but feel they can get him at 44 still.

[Obstructed_View]

I understand the amount of picks the Spurs have in the pipeline, so I don't mind trading it, but for two seconds. Honestly, how many seconds do we need ffs.

It's an asset. I don't understand why you guys think an asset has less value because you have a lot of them. So little value that you should waste it on players you don't want.

[Robz4000]

Rayan Rupert still on the board at 40...

[Mugen]

Isn't he the guy who got that package for Murray and got stuff for a departing Poeltl? The summer doesn't end with the draft.

Good point. I should wait for when he brings back KBD and Dieng for zero fucking reason :lol

[K...]

Second round picks will be most valuable after the spurs fill the cap space. So shipping them to the future is fine. They still have too many

[Marcus Bryant]

Spurs are going to have a ton of rookies over the next 5 years with all of the picks they have, not to mention the youth on the current roster.

[Mugen]

Honestly, I'd be happier if they sell the #44 pick than I was for Wemby at #1. I really need to drive home the fact that this FO is dumb AF when they're not lucky :lol

[CGD]

I'm not worried. They just drafted 3 rookies last year, and seem to want to see what they got in Barlow too. No need to add more to that unless it was an obvious pick (not sure that was Rupert honestly). Also, if things go well the Spurs will start being buyers in probably 2 years, and these things skid the gears.

[Seventyniner]

Second round picks will be most valuable after the spurs fill the cap space. So shipping them to the future is fine. They still have too many

Actually this is a good point. The Spurs might end up being a taxpaying team, or close to it, by the time a lot of those seconds come due because Wemby will be on his second contract. That's when it will be useful to have cheap players coming in. With so many seconds in 2028 specifically I can see the Spurs trying to roll a few of those forward into 2030 and 2031.

[benefactor]

They always manage to do some stupid shit.
You literally only show up here to post stupid shit

[BatManu20]

Hornets taking my guy Amari Bailey at 41. :cry

[Mr. Body]

Yeah you gotta feel the Spurs are getting rid of this one too.

[Mr. Body]

Just realized Charlotte picked up Colby Jones, Nick Smith Jr., and now Amari Bailey.

That's... a lot of rookie guards.

[spurraider21]

Spurs are going to have a ton of rookies over the next 5 years with all of the picks they have, not to mention the youth on the current roster.
yes it is very difficult to find room for a second round rookie this year

will be much easier to find room for the 20+ second rounders we'll have in the next 6-7

[John B]

Wright fell asleep again?? I should’ve known that “working hard to move up on 1st round” is another smoke :lol

[Mugen]

:lmao Rupert going the pick is even better.

God I hope they were targeting him at 44, please god let that have been the case :lol

[timvp]

Rupert @ 43 :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

Y‘all don’t get it. We are stacking up on these 2nd rounders so we can sell them for cash. 20 seconds for 2-4 million each is a lot of bread :lol

[mikec]

LOOOOOOOOOOL

[Mugen]

All I can say is thank fucking god they won the lottery :lol

[spurraider21]

I understand the amount of picks the Spurs have in the pipeline, so I don't mind trading it, but for two seconds. Honestly, how many seconds do we need ffs.
thats like, the worst reason to trade a pick the way we did. its actually the exact reason we should have traded up in the draft

[Ariel]

Just realized Charlotte picked up Colby Jones, Nick Smith Jr., and now Amari Bailey.

That's... a lot of rookie guards.
Their guards suck, they're all probably better than anything they had. The problem isn't that they're all guards, it's that they're all COMBO guards with similar physical profile. Still, it makes sense to draft them all and have them sort it out, keep the best of the bunch, dump the rest. If one of them pans out it's a win.

[cjw]

You only have 15 roster spots plus your two way slots. They have a lot of cap space and already have a ton of young guys (plus in hindsight still got Cissoko). I’d rather those back end spots be filled by vets that young guys can benefit from, and have seconds further in the future when (hopefully) the team is competing and may be pushing up against the tax and needs cheap back end of roster guys. Space out the development, and hoard future assets. They can be useful in trades too.

[DAF86]

In a night where they got a generational talent, these fuckers still found a way to leave the fanbase with a sour taste. Quite the feat, tbh. Imagine Wemby + an exciting guard prospect like Colby Jones or Bailey.

[Marcus Bryant]

You only have 15 roster spots plus your two way slots. They have a lot of cap space and already have a ton of young guys (plus in hindsight still got Cissoko). I’d rather those back end spots be filled by vets that young guys can benefit from, and have seconds further in the future when (hopefully) the team is competing and may be pushing up against the tax and needs cheap back end of roster guys. Space out the development, and hoard future assets. They can be useful in trades too.

They have all kinds of cap flexibility, a filthy stock of draft capital, and just drafted the best prospect of the last 20 years. Naturally some old men here are pissed off. All in all a good night.

[DAF86]

These mofos better pray for nobody picked from 33 to 43 to amount to anything, tbh.

[Mr. Body]

Feel like Cissoko is better than Rupert as a pickup for the Spurs at this time. Rupert slots more into where Wesley already is. Their skillsets are similar if Rupert is even less on the offensive side, while Cissoko is more of a big, powerful SG/wing.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I think the plan is to “see what they have,” find out it’s not great, go 29-53, and draft in the lottery again to get a second star.

Problem is going 29-53 isn't generally bad enough to get a second star, like the way OKC got Durant-Westy-Harden three years in a row.

You have to be picking top 3 or 4 multiple years in a row and you can't afford to fall out the way the Pistons did. Also this year's draft was very good to elite but some years are dogshit in the NBA. What if next year's draft ends up being the Anthony Bennett shit show draft?

[Chucho]

Not trying to be a smart ass, but what good has stockpiling worthless 2nd round picks done for the Spurs since we started bogarting them?

Seconds arent the pieces of trades that make good trades happen and we don't have the pieces to send out with those picks to do us any favors unless the front office is retarded and trades away KJ.

At this point, not adding some veteran fillers to lead and mentor the youngsters would be insane. Plenty of good hands out there to be had on 1-2 years and the Spurs and the worst part of the fanbase don't seem to want to compete despite having the most hyped prospect people are know making him sound like he's a long-term project, which is ridiculous.

The NBA is filled with nothing but pussies. Pussies who can't play a full season because they're physically incapable of, and the Spurs are going to load manage the 1st overall pick who is supposed to be a generational talent, but they won't put him to the grinder like a top pick should.

Just sad and pathetic how far the level of professional athletics drop. And the youngsters swear today's guys would wax yesterday's plumbers, yet the best of the best today can't even play 75% of the season. The NBA deserves to fail.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

It's like a nit in a poker tournament. It's okay to be patient to an extent, but eventually you have to take some risks or you'll be blinded off. In this case that means stuck with a ton of seconds and no roster space for them.


Spot on. Should have traded up into pick #29 and took a stab at somebody for a long rookie contract. But no. Why do something like that? And repeat quote.

[heyheymymy]

Just realized Charlotte picked up Colby Jones, Nick Smith Jr., and now Amari Bailey.

That's... a lot of rookie guards.

The Bouknight McGowens era never took off I guess lol

[heyheymymy]

I will trade 18 2RPs for one late first... or a bag of chips

[heyheymymy]

Spurs have been rolling out of extraneous second round picks the past two drafts and kicking the can seems to work okay. Obvs not ideal but it's not a total waste.

The risk of missing someone in hindsight is just the price you pay and I look at the horde of picks like insurance so trading away isn't a waste like paying your insurance premium isn't a waste. It's the cost to being in a position to decide you want a player and being able to take them.

Rather have and not need than need and not have.

It's nice to have options and any value that falls to the wayside is just the cost of doing business and can be mostly mitigated by good scouting. If there was a diamond in the rough I trust Spurs FO to know it and use the pick to select instead of trading off.

[JPB]

Some people are pissed or surprised because:

1. ST narratives is not spurs plans. And ST excitement is not spurs one. Lots of fantasy and excessive enthusiasm about this draft. We know many of these kids wo'nt make it or will be random rotation guys but suddenly from 1 to 33, everyone is a great prospect here (and most fan forums)...

2. Some people were obsesseb and exhilarated about this draft, as if fWemby was makng everybody else better, annd because spurs got him and have a lot of assets, they should have run for more independently of their needs and situation

3. Tjhe precisely didn't identofy those needs and situation. Spurs need proven talent and experience now around Victor, not another #33 propsect who have statiscally more chances to fail than succeed... We were excited about Wesley last year, steal of the draft, he might not be an NBA player and they're better try and keep on developing him, instead of starting back from scratch with another one... LOTS of young talent to develop already in this team... this isn't a yanking year anymore, Victor WANTS TO WIN asap and spurs understand that...

4. They didn't listen to Pop saying last night that they were wery happy with the current you guys who had a great summer so far keeping on developing.

Every draft is the same, fans all over the NBa are fantasizing too much about these kids... 2/3 will just end up as decent to unproductive players players.

[JPB]

Damn, that one minute limit to edit is brutal. Gonna check your posts more thoroughly before posting.

[Teamduncan21]

I will trade 18 2RPs for one late first... or a bag of chips


It sells for like 1-2m each. Spurs are gonna be rich

[exstatic]

Guessing the 44 is getting sold off too.

Weird. Wonder what happened with the 11 pick, if the Thunder sniffed out a Cason Wallace pick, jumped and took him, then the Spurs just left any deal they had with Orlando. Did they only value Wallace?

Odd.

Not really. You're not trading for a pick, you're trading for a player.

I'd just like to add, F you, Sam Presti, and simultaneously Bravo. I think that's his best pick in at least 5 years.

[Dverde]

These type of things…I do trust the Spurs front office. They obviously didn’t have what they wanted on the board and decided to only keep 44. I’m just glad they didn’t sell it for cash, I hate when teams do that.

[CGD]

All I can say is thank fucking god they won the lottery :lol

Because they traded away the 33rd pick in the 2023 draft? Lol

[Mr. Body]

Not really. You're not trading for a pick, you're trading for a player.

I'd just like to add, F you, Sam Presti, and simultaneously Bravo. I think that's his best pick in at least 5 years.

I posted in another thread... I don't think it's the Spurs that had a deal for the Orlando (11).

- Orlando picked Jett Howard, a player pretty much universally mocked later.

- If the Spurs had a deal for 11, then they could have still gone for a point guard type. Yes, definitely Cason could have been their only choice.

- My feeling is that it's a team like Utah that wanted to move up several slots. They would move from Utah (16). When OKC jumped over to 10, Utah decided to stay put and pick their second choice, who was Keyonte George. Orlando just picked the guy they'd already mapped out for them at 16 with the 11. Jett Howard.

- I think this was a middling draft for OKC. They were rumored to go hard into the top 10 and they farted out a two pick jump. Of course it wasn't for anything, just taking on Bertans. Wallace could be great, just unsure. Their big change is starting to play Chet Holmgren.

[exstatic]

These mofos better pray for nobody picked from 33 to 43 to amount to anything, tbh.

Or, what?

[exstatic]

I posted in another thread... I don't think it's the Spurs that had a deal for the Orlando (11).

- Orlando picked Jett Howard, a player pretty much universally mocked later.

- If the Spurs had a deal for 11, then they could have still gone for a point guard type. Yes, definitely Cason could have been their only choice.

- My feeling is that it's a team like Utah that wanted to move up several slots. They would move from Utah (16). When OKC jumped over to 10, Utah decided to stay put and pick their second choice, who was Keyonte George. Orlando just picked the guy they'd already mapped out for them at 16 with the 11. Jett Howard.

- I think this was a middling draft for OKC. They were rumored to go hard into the top 10 and they farted out a two pick jump. Of course it wasn't for anything, just taking on Bertans. Wallace could be great, just unsure. Their big change is starting to play Chet Holmgren.

Cason Wallace is the best pick Presti has made in 5 years, IMHO. Kentucky guards almost always show out, and overperform their draft slots. SGA was drafted 11, for fucks sake. Booker was drafted #13.

[BacktoBasics]

If Cason is going to OKC then how does that work with Giddey. I’m sure Wallace projects himself as a starting pg

[Mr. Body]

Cason Wallace is the best pick Presti has made in 5 years, IMHO. Kentucky guards almost always show out, and overperform their draft slots. SGA was drafted 11, for fucks sake. Booker was drafted #13.

Ignoring all the Kentucky guards who don't show out. It's just that Calipari gets like four blue chips every year, most of them don't get the touches they need. It's not some magic Kentucky thing.

Presti picking Holmgren was the best pick in five years. Giddey was better than this pick. I think Wallace will be good, but he also mirrors Dort in ways and may need to play backup. Anyway, he'll be a good rotation guy for them for sure.

[DAF86]

Or, what?

They might lose their job somewhere down the road.

[exstatic]

Ignoring all the Kentucky guards who don't show out. It's just that Calipari gets like four blue chips every year, most of them don't get the touches they need. It's not some magic Kentucky thing.

Presti picking Holmgren was the best pick in five years. Giddey was better than this pick. I think Wallace will be good, but he also mirrors Dort in ways and may need to play backup. Anyway, he'll be a good rotation guy for them for sure.

Right, but it happens over and over, and it’s pretty consistent, whatever the root cause. Find me another school in the last 10 years that consistently produces players at a position that nearly always meet or exceed their draft spot, multiple times to Allstar level outside of the top 10 selections.

[sfernald]

Seconds arent the pieces of trades that make good trades happen and we don't have the pieces to send out with those picks to do us any favors unless the front office is retarded and trades away KJ.

Don’t tell that to the Phoenix Suns who just traded for Bradley Beal with six second round picks!

[exstatic]

They might lose their job somewhere down the road.

PATFO passed on Jokic in the second round in 2014 and Draymond in 2012. No one lost their jobs. Are you anticipating someone in to 2023 draft between 33 and 44 to be better than Jokic or Draymond?

[spurraider21]

If Cason is going to OKC then how does that work with Giddey. I’m sure Wallace projects himself as a starting pg
wallace played off-ball quite a bit at kentucky and held up well. he does have starting PG ability, but blowing past his man off the dribble wasnt exactly a strength of his. and he's perfectly suited to defend either 1's or 2's, so i think he fits in nicely between them

[DAF86]

PATFO passed on Jokic in the second round in 2014 and Draymond in 2012. No one lost their jobs. Are you anticipating someone in to 2023 draft between 33 and 44 to be better than Jokic or Draymond?

I have no problem with taking someone and not panning out, at least you took your chance. The problem is not even trying. Imagine how bad it will look for the Spurs to trade away 33 becuase there was nobody they liked only for a guy like Colby Jones to end up being an all-star.

[Mr. Body]

I have no problem with taking someone and not panning out, at least you took your chance. The problem is not even trying. Imagine how bad it will look for the Spurs to trade away 33 becuase there was nobody they liked only for a guy like Colby Jones to end up being an all-star.

Imagine drafting Colby Jones because of a distant chance he might have somehow become an All-Star on another team.

[JPB]

I have no problem with taking someone and not panning out, at least you took your chance. The problem is not even trying. Imagine how bad it will look for the Spurs to trade away 33 becuase there was nobody they liked only for a guy like Colby Jones to end up being an all-star.

So you're basically saying Wright is a dumbass and I'm smarter than him.

[Obstructed_View]

They might lose their job somewhere down the road.
Potential employers routinely scroll through previous drafts to see missed second round picks who blew up in the league.

[DAF86]

Imagine drafting Colby Jones because of a distant chance he might have somehow become an All-Star on another team.

That's not the point at all. :lol

If Colby Jones ends up being an all-star and the Spurs decided to trade their pick away over picking him, that speaks pretty badly about the Spurs' management evaluation of this player. And it's not the same as picking someone else and passing on him, because at least you took a chance on another prospect. Passing on all-star level talent for nothing is malpractice.

[Mr. Body]

That's not the point at all. :lol

If Colby Jones ends up being an all-star and the Spurs decided to trade their pick away over picking him, that speaks pretty badly about the Spurs' management evaluation of this player. And it's not the same as picking someone else and passing on him, because at least you took a chance on another prospect. Passing on all-star level talent for nothing is malpractice.

Let me know when Colby Jones becomes an All Star.

[DAF86]

Let me know when Colby Jones becomes an All Star.

What if Rupert becomes a solid 3 and D player?

[tonight...you]

What if Rupert becomes a solid 3 and D player?
Rupert's agent was apparently telling teams hands off because he had a guaranteed deal with the Blazers.
That's kind of a thing the past few years in the 2nd round with some players.

[Seventyniner]

Rupert's agent was apparently telling teams hands off because he had a guaranteed deal with the Blazers.
That's kind of a thing the past few years in the 2nd round with some players.

I'm thinking this kind of thing probably happens rather often with mid and late seconds. Maybe even early ones. Teams could have ignored the request and drafted Rupert anyway, but that means they will never get to make the same request again because other teams couldn't be trusted to honor it.

[DAF86]

We should have drafted Bailey, tbh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzR6EBPakAE2eei.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzQUd_OaEAEj3Dy.jpg

That's his mom, btw.

[Russ]

The Spurs are collecting 2nd round picks like they're trying to fill out a bingo card.

They love to collect them but hate to use them, rendering them somewhat useless.

The best 2nd round picks are like 31--35. Unless the draft is really bad, you probably shouldn't cast one of those aside for two 2nd round picks that may be close to worthless.

On the other hand, they seem to know what they're doing, so what the hey.

[spurs10]

Yeah I have no clue other than there was no one they wanted at 33. It also makes their 44 pick look like an afterthought. Now that the draft is done, I'm thinking we have the FRPs and money to do something. Wonder what the plan is?

[CGD]

We should have drafted Bailey, tbh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzR6EBPakAE2eei.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzQUd_OaEAEj3Dy.jpg

That's his mom, btw.

Daymn… drake on that lol

[rankingtear]

Leonard Miller just did a full interview with a Spurs hat during the draft, every reporter including him thinks he is going there. Lol.

[Obstructed_View]

We should have drafted Bailey, tbh.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzR6EBPakAE2eei.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FzQUd_OaEAEj3Dy.jpg

That's his mom, btw.
Several of the moms were cute. Not surprising, as most of them are far younger than my old ass.

[rankingtear]

The Spurs are collecting 2nd round picks like they're trying to fill out a bingo card.

They love to collect them but hate to use them, rendering them somewhat useless.

The best 2nd round picks are like 31--35. Unless the draft is really bad, you probably shouldn't cast one of those aside for two 2nd round picks that may be close to worthless.

On the other hand, they seem to know what they're doing, so what the hey.

Once we are a near tax team those would be used to move contracts around. We have no use for it now so extending it's lifetime has value. The teams who sold their future would be rebuilding soon with a lot of capspace and desire to replenish some picks. FO did the wright thing.

[TDMVPDPOY]

whether its a draft bust or solid rotation player, all depends the role you have on the team, minutes available and direction the team is playing for...whether its developing players, making playoffs or just tanking...

[Splits]

they wanted Sasser. Once he was gone, it was over. Kid is going to be a star

[TD 21]

Several of the moms were cute. Not surprising, as most of them are far younger than my old ass.

My eyes generally gravitate more towards them than the girlfriends and sisters (Wembanyama's being case in point) and they're far older than my youngish ass.

[Obstructed_View]

My eyes generally gravitate more towards them than the girlfriends and sisters (Wembanyama's being case in point) and they're far older than my youngish ass.

Wemby's sister is a very pretty young woman. Far too young for me, but lovely.

[BatManu20]

Another good game by the Spurs’ 33rd Pick in the Draft tbh. :cry

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[Marcus Bryant]

Summer League is that magical land where you’re right until evil Fall arrives.

[RC_Drunkford]

this guy is better: 35 points, 5 Rebounds


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEqy2hXeG4U

[Twisted_Dawg]

Another good game by the Spurs’ 33rd Pick in the Draft tbh. :cry

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50% from the arc! Impressive for a big man.

[slick'81]

Another good game by the Spurs’ 33rd Pick in the Draft tbh. :cry

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spurs missed out on Jokic again?:lol

[Uriel]

Another good game by the Spurs’ 33rd Pick in the Draft tbh. :cry

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This was the guy I wanted at 33, tbh. Him and Whitehead. And he actually fell to 33 and we picked him. :lol

:depressed

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

This was the guy I wanted at 33, tbh. Him and Whitehead. And he actually fell to 33 and we picked him. :lol

:depressed

Spurs didn't pick him. The pick had long been traded by the time the player was announced. Wolves picked him.

[rascal]

I didn't like this trade when it was made and still don't like it.

[exstatic]

ST needs to set up another Spurs subforum: mourn over picks we trade and obsess over them until the end of time forum.

[rascal]

Wemby's sister is a very pretty young woman. Far too young for me, but lovely.

I'll pass.

Wemby with a curly wig, I'll pass.

[rjv]

ST needs to set up another Spurs subforum: mourn over picks we trade and obsess over them until the end of time forum.

we can name it after Luis Scola

[Mr. Body]

Leonard Miller could be very good, but this is the environment for him -- unstructured, up and down. The story on him is that he had troube understanding what to do in complex sets on either side of the ball. We'll see if that continues in the big league. I don't think he would have worked on the Spurs.

[TekXX]

Let's just hope none of those players from #33 to #44 turn out to be good

[Uriel]

ST needs to set up another Spurs subforum: mourn over picks we trade and obsess over them until the end of time forum.
We should also include in that thread players whom we should've picked but didn't (see: Sengun, Alperen).