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daboom1
06-29-2023, 01:46 PM
Good riddance to bad rubbish :tu

https://twitter.com/TheRabbitHole84/status/1674421758554931207?t

Of course racist Democrats are pissed :lol

ChumpDumper
06-29-2023, 01:48 PM
Good riddance to bad rubbish :tu

https://twitter.com/TheRabbitHole84/status/1674421758554931207?t

Of course racist Democrats are pissed :lol

Are legacies still admitted?

daboom1
06-29-2023, 01:52 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1674472295090233351?t

:wow:wow:wow

ChumpDumper
06-29-2023, 01:54 PM
https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1674472295090233351?t

:wow:wow:wow

Thomas is the biggest recipient of affirmative action I can think of.:tu

daboom1
06-29-2023, 02:00 PM
https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1674474293005021185?t

ChumpDumper
06-29-2023, 02:01 PM
https://twitter.com/jsolomonReports/status/1674474293005021185?t

Don't you like Justice Thomas?

Trainwreck2100
06-29-2023, 02:10 PM
The fact that they left it open for military academies shows how full of shit they are

ElNono
06-29-2023, 02:15 PM
Not that big of a deal when it comes to colleges, at least. Some States (ie: California) already prohibited this.

What interesting is Uncle Thomas concurring and celebrating this, just further proof conservatards have a knack for voting against their own interests, tbh...


Thomas is the biggest recipient of affirmative action I can think of.:tu

Exactly.

Millennial_Messiah
06-29-2023, 04:49 PM
Not that big of a deal when it comes to colleges, at least. Some States (ie: California) already prohibited this.

What interesting is Uncle Thomas concurring and celebrating this, just further proof conservatards have a knack for voting against their own interests, tbh...


Exactly.California had to -- otherwise Asians would be voting red in dictator margins which is bad for CA Dems because Asians make up 15% of the population and growing.

And Jackson is the biggest recipient of affirmative action along with Kamala Harris. Biden made it crystal clear that it must be a BLACK FEMALE that replaced a white male Democrat justice. Biden also made it crystal clear in 2020 that the VP candidate must be a woman of color. That's double the affirmative action that you could argue for either justice Thomas or justice Barrett who only met one minority demographic each (i.e. Thomas is black, Barrett is female).

SnakeBoy
06-29-2023, 04:53 PM
Thank you Trump and RBG

ElNono
06-29-2023, 05:01 PM
California had to -- otherwise Asians would be voting red in dictator margins which is bad for CA Dems because Asians make up 15% of the population and growing.

California had that since '96. back when Republicans still were worth a damn in the State.


And Jackson is the biggest recipient of affirmative action along with Kamala Harris. Biden made it crystal clear that it must be a BLACK FEMALE that replaced a white male Democrat justice. Biden also made it crystal clear in 2020 that the VP candidate must be a woman of color. That's double the affirmative action that you could argue for either justice Thomas or justice Barrett who only met one minority demographic each (i.e. Thomas is black, Barrett is female).

This is about race, not gender or sex. Which is exactly why we're pointing out Uncle Thomas is pissing in the wind, per par.

daboom1
06-29-2023, 05:24 PM
Thank you Trump and RBG

:tu

daboom1
06-29-2023, 06:17 PM
Are legacies still admitted?

Assuming a case like that ever existed for SCOTUS to rule on, what would the constitutional basis be for abolishing legacy admissions?

The 2020 census puts the US white population at 71%, so a 70% white legacy rate would accurately reflect the demographics of the country.

Adam Lambert
06-29-2023, 07:34 PM
Republicans love to give a shit about stuff that doesn't affect them. Like trannies, reproductive choice, and going to college.

spurraider21
06-29-2023, 07:51 PM
Assuming a case like that ever existed for SCOTUS to rule on, what would the constitutional basis be for abolishing legacy admissions?

The 2020 census puts the US white population at 71%, so a 70% white legacy rate would accurately reflect the demographics of the country.
:lmao qrisbot pretending he can speak for himself without a tweet. adorable

1674460848683724809

spurraider21
06-29-2023, 07:52 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1673172609071034368/EIy84M-3_400x400.jpg

Ef-man
06-29-2023, 07:59 PM
:lmao qrisbot pretending he can speak for himself without a tweet. adorable

1674460848683724809


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1673172609071034368/EIy84M-3_400x400.jpg

Copy/paste, no one will notice, no one! :lmao :lmao :lmao

Hold the towel steady ma, hold it steady for my profile picture. :lol

Xevious
06-29-2023, 08:00 PM
:lmao qrisbot pretending he can speak for himself without a tweet. adorable

1674460848683724809
:lol

daboom1
06-29-2023, 10:09 PM
Typical mud slinging from Libtards :lol

The implication being they pull everything out of the aether. (or out of their ass)

No need to research anything. :tu

lol

daboom1
06-29-2023, 10:11 PM
https://twitter.com/ericareport/status/1674587364881240065?t

This one is drowning :lol

pgardn
06-29-2023, 10:36 PM
Clarence Thomas the gigantic ass hypocrite.

”I got mine. Tough luck for the rest of you.”

So fkn Republican thinking now. ME.

SnakeBoy
06-29-2023, 11:08 PM
lol twitter sleuths

Todays libs smh

daboom1
06-29-2023, 11:09 PM
Clarence Thomas the gigantic ass hypocrite.

”I got mine. Tough luck for the rest of you.”

So fkn Republican thinking now. ME.

You think certain people should be treated differently based on the color of their skin.

You suck.

SnakeBoy
06-29-2023, 11:12 PM
Clarence Thomas the gigantic ass hypocrite.


Nothing angers a white lib more than a black man who thinks for himself

FuzzyLumpkins
06-29-2023, 11:18 PM
Nothing angers a white lib more than a black man who thinks for himself

You sure like speaking for others. Makes you look weak.

SnakeBoy
06-29-2023, 11:36 PM
Someday I hope to be strong enough to start a thread just to cry about other posters being mean to me. It'll go well, I'm sure.

ChumpDumper
06-30-2023, 02:17 AM
Assuming a case like that ever existed for SCOTUS to rule on, what would the constitutional basis be for abolishing legacy admissions?Equal protection.


The 2020 census puts the US white population at 71%, so a 70% white legacy rate would accurately reflect the demographics of the country.:lol how do you think legacies work?

ChumpDumper
06-30-2023, 02:20 AM
Nothing angers a white lib more than a black man who thinks for himself

:lolHe is owned by a white man.

Splits
06-30-2023, 06:09 AM
Small government for the win!

Splits
06-30-2023, 06:11 AM
For you Trumptards who don't know history beyond the past 5 years, Uncle Thomas replaced Thurgood Marshall. The first black justice on the SC. Do you see what's happening here?

Spurs Homer
06-30-2023, 08:15 AM
No one in Amerikkka benefited MORE from Affirmative Action than Justice Uncle Tom Thomas -

btw -

will this SCOTUS decision take us back to 1950's Amerikkka?

will this decision stop White majority from becoming the minority by 2040-45?

pgardn
06-30-2023, 08:37 AM
Nothing angers a white lib more than a black man who thinks for himself

Lying hypocrites. The red team. Red is any color that lies and fails to hold themselves to their own standards. Clarence is bought and paid for.
Thinking for himself “I got mine, tough luck for the rest of you.”
And then you chant U (United) SA… The only people you fool are Joeys.
You fool angry uneducated whites who need someone else to blame for their obvious failures.
Make the Joeys feel like victims.

Monostradamus
06-30-2023, 08:52 AM
:lmao qrisbot pretending he can speak for himself without a tweet. adorable

1674460848683724809
:lmao

Monostradamus
06-30-2023, 08:54 AM
Someday I hope to be strong enough to start a thread just to cry about other posters being mean to me. It'll go well, I'm sure.
LMAO Chris getting exposed as a plagiarist really triggered Snakebot

spurraider21
06-30-2023, 09:14 AM
lol twitter sleuths

Todays libs smh
Chris using a complete sentence to express a thought was a huge red flag. I just copy pasted his comment into google search and the tweet was the first hit :lol

ChumpDumper
06-30-2023, 09:31 AM
lol twitter sleuths

Todays libs smh

lol semen shielding Qhris

Today's Trumptards smh

GAustex
06-30-2023, 09:51 AM
Asian grads fittn to eat

SnakeBoy
06-30-2023, 10:08 AM
For you Trumptards who don't know history beyond the past 5 years, Uncle Thomas replaced Thurgood Marshall. The first black justice on the SC. Do you see what's happening here?

What happened is Dems put up the worst candidate in history and lost the SC. Then RBG helped Trump put the cherry on top.

Spurs Homer
06-30-2023, 10:11 AM
Asian grads fittn to eat

nah

once white university admin officials see the coast is clear - even Asians will be thrown to the back of the line along with browns and blacks -

Blake
06-30-2023, 10:53 AM
:lmao qrisbot pretending he can speak for himself without a tweet. adorable

1674460848683724809

Rofl I knew it looked fishy when he posted it rofl

ChumpDumper
06-30-2023, 11:04 AM
Assuming a case like that ever existed for SCOTUS to rule on, what would the constitutional basis be for abolishing legacy admissions?

The 2020 census puts the US white population at 71%, so a 70% white legacy rate would accurately reflect the demographics of the country.

qu:lolta

SnakeBoy
06-30-2023, 11:16 AM
303 Creative LLC v. Elenis

6-3 By Justice Gorsuch

Sotomayor, Kagan, and Jackson dissent

LGBTQ No Cakes For You!

SnakeBoy
06-30-2023, 11:21 AM
Chris using a complete sentence to express a thought was a huge red flag. I just copy pasted his comment into google search and the tweet was the first hit :lol

Oh I just noticed Elon won't let you get the tweet id anymore without having an account. That's probably why he copied it, Ima have to do the same when I see trigger da libs tweets.

Adam Lambert
06-30-2023, 11:27 AM
Oh I just noticed Elon won't let you get the tweet id anymore without having an account. That's probably why he copied it, Ima have to do the same when I see trigger da libs tweets.

Dude just get his number and schedule a meetup, this passive courting is kind of pathetic.

ducks
06-30-2023, 11:38 AM
Biden slammed Supreme Court affirmative action ruling but once led fight against school desegregation
President Biden's past stance led to attacks from Vice President Kamala Harris during the 2020 presidential election

Monostradamus
06-30-2023, 11:51 AM
Rofl I knew it looked fishy when he posted it rofl
The guy who doesn’t understand basic fractions suddenly throwing out numbers like that :lmao

Adam Lambert
06-30-2023, 11:54 AM
:lol ducks chimes in on higher education

spurraider21
06-30-2023, 12:30 PM
Oh I just noticed Elon won't let you get the tweet id anymore without having an account. That's probably why he copied it, Ima have to do the same when I see trigger da libs tweets.
qrisbot posted a tweet in the OP

he tried to pass this one off as an original thought

and why wouldnt he have an account? suspended again for bot-like behavior?

ChumpDumper
06-30-2023, 12:36 PM
qrisbot posted a tweet in the OP

he tried to pass this one off as an original thought

and why wouldnt he have an account? suspended again for bot-like behavior?

Even when an account is suspended tweets can be read.

Monostradamus
06-30-2023, 06:07 PM
qrisbot posted a tweet in the OP

he tried to pass this one off as an original thought

and why wouldnt he have an account? suspended again for bot-like behavior?
:lmao
rough few days for SnakeBo (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12109)t. Poor fella

koriwhat
06-30-2023, 06:19 PM
Lying hypocrites. The red team. Red is any color that lies and fails to hold themselves to their own standards. Clarence is bought and paid for.
Thinking for himself “I got mine, tough luck for the rest of you.”
And then you chant U (United) SA… The only people you fool are Joeys.
You fool angry uneducated whites who need someone else to blame for their obvious failures.
Make the Joeys feel like victims.

STFU you fucking pussy!

Tell us more about how racist and xenophobic you are or did you forget everything's archived here on ST? :lmao

You and the other blow hards continue to claim I and many others are uneducated but you are nothing but a ball of assumptions and you're wrong all the fucking time. How's your education working out for you in that regard? Dumbfuck!

koriwhat
06-30-2023, 06:20 PM
Biden slammed Supreme Court affirmative action ruling but once led fight against school desegregation
President Biden's past stance led to attacks from Vice President Kamala Harris during the 2020 presidential election

They're cultists but they'll claim everyone not in the cult is a cultist. :lol

Hank Scorpio
06-30-2023, 07:22 PM
Assuming a case like that ever existed for SCOTUS to rule on, what would the constitutional basis be for abolishing legacy admissions?

The 2020 census puts the US white population at 71%, so a 70% white legacy rate would accurately reflect the demographics of the country.

Legacy is not about race.

daboom1
06-30-2023, 07:41 PM
Legacy is not about race.

SCOTUS has zero authority to ban them. Chump doesn't understand that.

daboom1
06-30-2023, 07:42 PM
Take it up with Harvard. :tu

ChumpDumper
06-30-2023, 08:02 PM
SCOTUS has zero authority to ban them.Why not?

Equal protection is equal.

ducks
06-30-2023, 08:23 PM
SCOTUS has zero authority to ban them. Chump doesn't understand that.

Says who?????

daboom1
06-30-2023, 08:39 PM
Why not?

Equal protection is equal.

They can't ban something that has nothing to do with their case. Do you understand how SCOTUS works?

Hank Scorpio
06-30-2023, 11:51 PM
They can't ban something that has nothing to do with their case. Do you understand how SCOTUS works?

Let's say a poor kid with better grades loses a spot to a rich legacy kid and sues..who do you side with?

Winehole23
07-01-2023, 12:08 AM
Why not?

Equal protection is equal.PLZ DON'T TOUCH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FOR MEDIOCRE WHITE STUDENTS.

Ef-man
07-01-2023, 12:26 AM
Clarence Thomas the gigantic ass hypocrite.

”I got mine. Tough luck for the rest of you.”

So fkn Republican thinking now. ME.

"Clarence Thomas told staffers at the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission that 'God only knows where I would be today' if not for the legal principles of equal employment opportunity measures such as affirmative action that are 'critical to minorities and women in this society,'" wrote Timothy Bella. "'These laws and their proper application are all that stand between the first 17 years of my life and the second 17 years,' Thomas, then the EEOC chairman, said in 1983. His comments were later cited in outlets including The Washington Post, the New York Times and Newsweek."

Ef-man
07-01-2023, 12:27 AM
PLZ DON'T TOUCH AFFIRMATIVE ACTION FOR MEDIOCRE CHILDREN OF RICH WHITE PARENTS.

fify, cause we know it is about the $$$$$$$$

Winehole23
07-01-2023, 01:17 AM
fify, cause we know it is about the $$$$$$$$it's about clubbiness and intergenerational loyalty too.

daboom1
07-01-2023, 01:39 AM
Let's say a poor kid with better grades loses a spot to a rich legacy kid and sues..who do you side with?


Seeing a lot of braindead talk about legacy admissions. Legacies are actually treated mostly fairly.

If you're admitted to a school but then drop out, then we know tautologically that whatever caused you to do so was not measured by the admissions process, or else you wouldn't have been admitted in the first place. Actually graduating is another additional major barrier to entry. Whatever the unknown factors are (maybe drive for independent learning in an environment with more freedom? who knows, probably many different things), parents and children should correlate in them, and so legacy status should give real information about merit that grades and test scores do not.

Indeed, legacy students get the same college grades and drop out at the same rates as admitted non-legacies:

^ n=12k paper looking at prestigious schools. Despite the admissions preference they get, legacies achieve roughly equivalent overall college grades and superior within-major grades than admitted non-legacies (see figs 1 & 2).

In the regression controlling for race and major and parental education however, legacies do worse by a very small amount. The major control is fair since some majors are easier than others, but the race and education controls are spurious; they only make sense if you believe that whites and asians and the children of highly-educated people receive good college grades for reasons other than the merit of these groups. Given the derivative of american racial demographics WRT time (and of the strength of racial affirmative action policies), legacy admits will be a bit whiter than non-legacies and have more educated parents.

In any case, even with the spurious regression, this is only enough that the effect size becomes small (so small that p>.01 despite n=12k and outright p>.1 outright in the major model). That the effect size for college performance differences is so small in spite of the large admissions bonus means that even taking these (wrong) numbers at face value, legacy admits are treated almost entirely appropriately, and so the removal of the legacy bonus would increase the absolute value of the difference in college performance between legacies and non-legacies.

Note also that admitted non-legacies are a different population than the general applicant pool. Legacies generally have superior high school grades + test scores to the general applicant pool but are generally inferior to admitted non-legacies in high school grades + test scores; that this inferiority in high school performance results in equivalent college performance means that dropping the legacy bonus would result in legacies who have superior college performance. That legacies are admitted more than what would be otherwise merited by grades + SAT + etc alone is true and deserves to be called a bonus, but this does not contradict any of my arguments.

Now, is grade inflation one of the unknown factors legacies share with their kids? No. Any grade inflation from wealthy, aggressive helicopter parents should apply to highschool grades all the same, if not more, as kids have more independence in college. Moreover, most admitted students are not legacies and the parents of most legacies were not themselves legacies when they were admitted.

Finally, if I could add my two cents, it's actually a bad thing that the legacy bonus is only high enough to put legacies on even footing with other admitted students. A nation should put its ultra-smart in contact with its ultra-rich from a young age so that the nation's resources end up being marshaled towards the most effective ends.

https://twitter.com/FischerWerkat/status/1674881416608337920?t

FrostKing
07-01-2023, 01:46 AM
Lying hypocrites.

You fool angry uneducated whites who need someone else to blame for their obvious failures.

Can you offer any examples such as

Affirmative action
"Systematic racism"
& CRT


Imagine thinking telling people they can enjoy the American Dream on their own capabilites is a lie and/or evil. More honorable than selling them victimbood.

ElNono
07-01-2023, 03:33 AM
Nothing angers a white lib more than a black man who thinks for himself

:lol Nothing angers you and Qhris more than this white man...

https://media.gq.com/photos/600885ec4b004969fac44e70/16:9/w_2560%2Cc_limit/012021_GQ_Biden_Aviators_1.jpg

Blake
07-01-2023, 05:24 AM
https://twitter.com/FischerWerkat/status/1674881416608337920?t

Lol borrowing a text wall to avoid answering a simple question

Monostradamus
07-01-2023, 04:40 PM
Can you offer any examples such as

Affirmative action
"Systematic racism"
& CRT


Imagine thinking telling people they can enjoy the American Dream on their own capabilites is a lie and/or evil. More honorable than selling them victimbood.
What is CRT?

pgardn
07-01-2023, 08:13 PM
Can you offer any examples such as

Affirmative action
"Systematic racism"
& CRT


Imagine thinking telling people they can enjoy the American Dream on their own capabilites is a lie and/or evil. More honorable than selling them victimbood.

Then dont let legacies given any sort of preference either.
Its hypocrisy. Its very straight forward. Think about it.

pgardn
07-01-2023, 08:26 PM
What is CRT?

In action CRT is called tell the truth concerning American history imo.
Team red and Frosty dont want to trifle with any shit stains revealed.
Specifically concerning people of different color and religion.

I personally had never heard of what happened in Tulsa. The basic destruction of a black population.
Frosty claims we should pass it by because history is much more expansive than this and it is.
But we also concentrate MORE on history that has effects on CURRENT notions which is completely incomprehensible to someone like Frosty because... but... but... "Europe has a very LONG history" This is one of the silliest arguments I have ever heard. Skip it because history is vast? Thats just stupid. There will come a time. But its not NOW. And current affairs will determine this. Donald Trump WILL be written extensively about imo mainly because of his total misunderstanding of what America is and because he is a supernarcissist. But the story will be told. And it will have its time.

FrostKing
07-01-2023, 09:47 PM
Then dont let legacies given any sort of preference either.
Its hypocrisy. Its very straight forward. Think about it.
That's fine. Atleast legacies have a part in the success the school is today. "They helped build it" but again I agree do away with it too.

FrostKing
07-01-2023, 09:50 PM
In action CRT is called tell the truth concerning American history imo.
Team red and Frosty dont want to trifle with any shit stains revealed.
Specifically concerning people of different color and religion.

I personally had never heard of what happened in Tulsa. The basic destruction of a black population.
Frosty claims we should pass it by because history is much more expansive than this and it is.
But we also concentrate MORE on history that has effects on CURRENT notions which is completely incomprehensible to someone like Frosty because... but... but... "Europe has a very LONG history" This is one of the silliest arguments I have ever heard. Skip it because history is vast? Thats just stupid. There will come a time. But its not NOW. And current affairs will determine this. Donald Trump WILL be written extensively about imo mainly because of his total misunderstanding of what America is and because he is a supernarcissist. But the story will be told. And it will have its time.
You have to be gullible to believe there is only one truth in history or even life. CRT is typically one sides version.

Hispanic-American history should come first before Black-American. For every reason, except white liberals are submissive to blacks.

ChumpDumper
07-01-2023, 09:54 PM
You have to be gullible to believe there is only one truth in history or even life. CRT is typically one sides version.

Hispanic-American history should come first before Black-American. For every reason, except white liberals are submissive to blacks.

:lmao

FrostKing
07-01-2023, 10:07 PM
:lmao
< extends hand >

Let me help you up off your knee brother

SnakeBoy
07-01-2023, 10:09 PM
1674856853912576018

ChumpDumper
07-01-2023, 10:14 PM
1674856853912576018

:lol Snacks: class warfare

ChumpDumper
07-01-2023, 10:15 PM
< extends hand >

Let me help you up off your knee brother

Never was.

Stop playing the victim.

FrostKing
07-01-2023, 10:24 PM
1674856853912576018
I still think highly of the Man I helped elect but really soured on Michelle. Not sure if this was her along or she changed during Covid. But that's when she started making radical comments.

pgardn
07-01-2023, 10:27 PM
You have to be gullible to believe there is only one truth in history or even life. CRT is typically one sides version.

Hispanic-American history should come first before Black-American. For every reason, except white liberals are submissive to blacks.

Are you kidding?
I live in TEXAS. I was taught about Spain AND especially Mexico. You know people in San Antonio know about the ALAMO. You don’t realize the complete Bull shit kids were taught about the Alamo? And when it got changed because of documents glossed over and documents flat out LEFT OUT your red team thru a shit fit about the more accurate events. And How the US even acquired Texas was a huge topic and greatly misrepresented because the red team does not want to change it.

You need to stick to European history and even then you can’t be believed.
You telling THIS board about too much Black history? After calling them dumb monkeys?

Gtfoh… I mean seriously the thin ice long ago broke beneath you and your positions.

FrostKing
07-01-2023, 10:32 PM
Are you kidding?
I live in TEXAS. I was taught about Spain AND especially Mexico. You know people in San Antonio know about the ALAMO. You don’t realize the complete Bull shit kids were taught about the Alamo? And when it got changed because of documents glossed over and documents flat out LEFT OUT your red team thru a shit fit about the more accurate events. And How the US even acquired Texas was a huge topic and greatly misrepresented because the red team does not want to change it.

You need to stick to European history and even then you can’t be believed.
You telling THIS board about too much Black history? After calling them dumb monkeys?

Gtfoh… I mean seriously the thin ice long ago broke beneath you and your positions.
Hahah I'll let you cool down. Return to this post. Not saying you are entirely wrong. You've misunderstood my point.

pgardn
07-01-2023, 10:37 PM
Hahah I'll let you cool down. Return to this post. Not saying you are entirely wrong. You've misunderstood my point.

We have STATES in the US Frosty.
If the State has a fairly unique history it tends to be learned in that STATE. The STATE legislatures have control over what is taught.
I’ll let you rethink a whole bunch of what you have already said on this board in the large number of posts you have already made on History. The US misunderstanding of history because we have not been around long enough… That was… really stupid. The argument that blacks brought over as Slaves is just a blip in history so ya don’t need to learn that. You remember.

ChumpDumper
07-01-2023, 10:43 PM
Hahah I'll let you cool down. Return to this post. Not saying you are entirely wrong. You've misunderstood my point.You like Latinas.

We get it.

Have another drink.

Monostradamus
07-02-2023, 08:13 AM
You have to be gullible to believe there is only one truth in history or even life. CRT is typically one sides version.

Hispanic-American history should come first before Black-American. For every reason, except white liberals are submissive to blacks.
What is CRT?

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 12:58 PM
What is CRT?
Haha. What's your angle here. I've defined it plenty of times. I'm fine with it being a College course, feel it's too race based and negative for kids under 18. It's a theory, too complicated for that age.

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 01:10 PM
Haha. What's your angle here. I've defined it plenty of times. I'm fine with it being a College course, feel it's too race based and negative for kids under 18. It's a theory, too complicated for that age.That's why it has never been and isn't taught in any level but college.

Monostradamus
07-02-2023, 01:18 PM
Haha. What's your angle here. I've defined it plenty of times. I'm fine with it being a College course, feel it's too race based and negative for kids under 18. It's a theory, too complicated for that age.
Where is CRT taught to kids under 18?

And, for the third time, what is CRT? Feel free to just quote one of the plenty of times you’ve defined it.

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 01:24 PM
Where is CRT taught to kids under 18?

And, for the third time, what is CRT? Feel free to just quote one of the plenty of times you’ve defined it.
As if there isn't a battle ongoing to keep it outta public schools. Some Democrats want it taught, that's their perspective.

CRT is viewing/judging history/society and even culture thru the scope of skin color.

Did I pass the pop quiz?

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 01:26 PM
As if there isn't a battle ongoing to keep it outta public schools.That's not what they are passing laws to keep out of school.

CRT is viewing/judging history/society and even culture thru the scope of skin color.

Did I pass the pop quiz?Failed as usual.

You should really learn what it is after all this time.

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 01:31 PM
That's not what they are passing laws to keep out of school.
Failed as usual.

You should really learn what it is after all this time.
Haha. Enlighten me. Go on so the conversation can as well.

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 01:34 PM
Haha. Enlighten me. Go on so the conversation can as well.Why?

You haven't been intellectually curious during your entire culture war to even google it once. The guy who developed the theory is alive and well and isn't hiding anything.

Your privilege doesn't extend to my spoon feeding you. Man up and do something for yourself for a change.

We can all wait for you to catch up with us more knowledgeable posters so get to it.

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 01:48 PM
Why?

You haven't been intellectually curious during your entire culture war to even google it once. The guy who developed the theory is alive and well and isn't hiding anything.

Your privilege doesn't extend to my spoon feeding you. Man up and do something for yourself for a change.

We can all wait for you to catch up with us more knowledgeable posters so get to it.
? Just explain why you stated my definition was wrong. You're the one defending it.

You don't need to Blue team every topic.

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 01:50 PM
? Just explain why you stated my definition was wrong. It's wrong because it's not the correct definition.

I'll let you know when you get it right.

You could've googled it already.

Why do you continue to choose ignorance?

daboom1
07-02-2023, 02:22 PM
1674856853912576018

There's another photo where Mr. Winkie makes another appearance on Big Mike.

daboom1
07-02-2023, 02:32 PM
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1675580230176583680?t

Monostradamus
07-02-2023, 02:42 PM
As if there isn't a battle ongoing to keep it outta public schools. Some Democrats want it taught, that's their perspective.

CRT is viewing/judging history/society and even culture thru the scope of skin color.

Did I pass the pop quiz?
:lmao terrified of something he can’t even define. Typical white boy.

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 02:48 PM
I just defined it. Maybe your ideologies messaging sucks if you disagree and can't formulate a reason why.

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 02:50 PM
I just defined it. Maybe your ideologies messaging sucks if you disagree and can't formulate a reason why.We just told you why: it's not the definition. You're just wrong.

Why are you arguing a simple fact?

And why haven't you googled this in the past hour?

You just want to stay in your low information bubble where your persecuted imagination is the only reality.

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 02:53 PM
We just told you why: it's not the definition. You're just wrong.

Why are you arguing a simple fact?

And why haven't you googled this in the past hour?

You just want to stay in your low information bubble.
Maybe we should shun it from College if the supporters can't even explain it.

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 02:58 PM
Maybe we should shun it from College if the supporters can't even explain it.I can explain it just fine.

I'm not going to explain it to you because you're lazy and dim and will pretend I'm making it up because it's so different from what you posted.

Again, why won't you just look it up?

Please explain your fears. Maybe we can help you through this difficult time.

daboom1
07-02-2023, 02:59 PM
:lmao terrified of something he can’t even define. Typical white boy.

:lmao typical racist

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 03:03 PM
I can explain it just fine.

I'm not going to explain it to you because you're lazy and dim and will pretend I'm making it up because it's so different from what you posted.

Again, why won't you just look it up?

Please explain your fears. Maybe we can help you through this difficult time.
:lol I'm watching the game and it's nearing end. I'm not spending Sunday dancing with you.

Refute my definition. You stated it's wrong not some online excerpt. Explain your strong reaction. I'll listen and respond like an adult.

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 03:05 PM
:lmao typical racist
Atleast dumb conservatives don't attempt this superiority card. If you folks are the smartest people in the room then explain your stance and save the personal attacks.

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 03:06 PM
:lol I'm watching the game and it's nearing end. I'm not spending Sunday dancing with you.

Refute my definition. You stated it's wrong not some online exert. Explain your strong reaction. I'll listen and respond like an adult.I did refute it.

You're wrong.

You can google it at any time.

Like an adult.

Why can't you google it?

Please explain. You can watch a game and post. You can watch a game and google.

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 03:07 PM
Atleast dumb conservatives don't attempt this superiority card. If you folks are the smartest people in the room then explain your stance and save the personal attacks.I explained my stance.

You're wrong.

Look it up.

It's waiting for you.

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 03:10 PM
Imagine spending your life defending on a message board something you yourself can't explain

Today's American political culture

Blake
07-02-2023, 03:11 PM
Atleast dumb conservatives don't attempt this superiority card.

Lol

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 03:12 PM
Imagine spending your life defending on a message board something you yourself can't explain:lol you're doing it right now.

Why can't you simply google the definition for yourself?

Are you too stupid to do it?

Are you afraid to find out the truth from the source?

Explain your inability you are trying to defend.

daboom1
07-02-2023, 03:35 PM
Atleast dumb conservatives don't attempt this superiority card. If you folks are the smartest people in the room then explain your stance and save the personal attacks.

They don't have facts to stand on so personal attacks is quite frankly all they have. That's why Democrats don't debate and would prefer to bully the other side into submission.

ChumpDumper
07-02-2023, 03:45 PM
They don't have facts:lol the fact is there is an actual definition for CRT that you never bothered to learn.

FOR YEARS.

Why can't you just look up the definition?

There's no reason to take my word for it -- this thing exists and is waiting for you.

If you are too afraid to look up a definition, quite frankly you deserve a personal attack or two -- because if that's the case you are stupid, ignorant and afraid.

It's easy to prove me wrong -- but you won't.

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 08:59 PM
:lol the fact is there is an actual definition for CRT that you never bothered to learn.

FOR YEARS.

Why can't you just look up the definition?

There's no reason to take my word for it -- this thing exists and is waiting for you.

If you are too afraid to look up a definition, quite frankly you deserve a personal attack or two -- because if that's the case you are stupid, ignorant and afraid.

It's easy to prove me wrong -- but you won't.
Tell us then smart guy

SnakeBoy
07-02-2023, 10:34 PM
Chump can't define it :lol

FrostKing
07-02-2023, 10:40 PM
So confused what angle he's beating to death. Maybe he believes CRT is about googling definitions?

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 01:09 AM
Tell us then smart guy
Look it up.

Chump can't define it :lol
:lol of course I can -- I looked it up.

So confused what angle he's beating to death. Maybe he believes CRT is about googling definitions?
:lmao you still haven't looked it up.

What is wrong with you?

You're a child.

Look up the definition.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 01:36 AM
This is off the top of my head, but iirc CRT emerged in the 1990s as a subfield of the sociology of law. The gist is that racism is sustained by customs and institutions rather than individuals. It was never about identifying individuals and making them feel bad for being racist. That in fact misses the point of Critical Race Theory, which instead points to systematic instantiations of race and racism in law, education and criminal justice. In the OG CRT, race and racism are social constructs, not bad character.

In the current iteration, CRT is anything related to race that annoys conservatives -- a more or less derogatory and formless catchall, plus grandiose delusions of persecution. In its crudest form, anti-CRT is revanchism against civil rights ( i.e, social and legal equality) for nonwhites.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 01:45 AM
CRT is not about making your kid feel bad. By the OG definition, you and your kid don't really have much to do with it.

Historical/institutional inertia are the cause, individual bigots are merely a symptom.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 01:52 AM
CRT is not about making your kid feel bad. By the OG definition, you and your kid don't really have much to do with it.

Historical/institutional inertia are the cause, individual bigots are merely a symptom.
Since Chump is going on a weird crusade

I understand this perspective and in theory it's true. But that's not how it is used by kids/bullies and portrayed by our media - aka "Systematic racism". It's too much all at once. If we accept the System is okay then I am okay with accepting such theories.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 01:54 AM
Since Chump is going on a weird crusade

I understand this perspective and in theory it's true. But that's not how it is used by kids/bullies and portrayed by our media - aka "Systematic racism". It's too much all at once. If we accept the System is okay then I am okay with accepting such theories.I don't think a system that results in racial subjugation is ok, do you?

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 01:58 AM
I don't think a system that results in racial subjugation is ok, do you?
There are certaintly examples of prejudice, racism, murder because of those. But do I feel USA in 2023 is racist? No. Considering how unbelievably diverse this nation is, I think it overall handles itself well.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 02:01 AM
There are certaintly examples of prejudice, racism, murder because of those. But do I feel USA in 2023 is racist? No. Considering how unbelievably diverse this nation is, I think it overall handles itself well.Well, if you think the USA is racism-free, then there can't possibly be anything more to it.

QED

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 02:09 AM
Well, if you think the USA is racism-free, then there can't possibly be anything more to it.

QED
Okay

You did specifically ask about Systematic and I didn't address that. To the Democrats credit (which I supported) I think there have been great steps taken towards eliminating this. I do find it annoying that each online job application I fill out asks about my gender, race, veteran & disability. I started to decline to answer gender/race and maybe got more action.

Now onto racism in the community. I didn't say 100% free. It's all relative. USA is experiencing another massive demographic shift and this includes Asians overtaking Blacks. You notice the hate crimes increasing within these two. Do most mass political shooters end up being white (supremastic)? Yes i'll admit and agree to this. Now what is the solution? I think an overall campaign to support America and our values/dreams would be best. Strengthen who we are, don't necessarily look for one demographic to blame.

I'll give you some insight. White racists aren't so dumb. They foresee what's on the horizon. Most just want their neighbor to love this country too (with all it's faults). Hard working Juan with Catholic background & big family isn't their concern.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 02:20 AM
"Don't blame white supremacist mass murderers, support American values instead" is a great slogan for your side. I think you should stick with that and repeat it often.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 02:20 AM
Hard working Ahmed going to the Mosque, big family and avoiding pork at the BBQ isn't a concern either. It's about respect & class. Hard work. I'm not saying white conservatives are all this but also don't think it's about color or religion.

daboom1
07-03-2023, 02:20 AM
We know racism is taught. CRT was designed to instill racism at the age of adolescence.

"Triggered Conservatives" don't want their children to be indoctrinated when they send them to school to learn how to read and write.

2+2 does not equal reparations.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 02:22 AM
"Don't blame white supremacist mass murderers, support American values instead" is a great slogan for your side. I think you should stick with that and repeat it often.
Let's be honest, most minorities fear the financial murder not the political one.

America still has very attractive values. Yes beyond just $$$. We should highlight those. But I guess that's the crossroads - what values and what is means to be "American"

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 02:23 AM
CRT wasn't designed for primary education, it's taught in law schools. Y'all just don't like US history that includes civil rights and the long tradition of racial subjugation it includes. Normative legal and social equality for nonwhites is about 60 years old in the USA. Practically, we never got there.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 02:29 AM
CRT wasn't designed for primary education, it's taught in law schools. Y'all just don't like US history that includes civil rights and the long tradition of racial subjugation it includes. Normative legal and social equality for nonwhites is about 60 years old in the USA. Practically, we never got there.
CRT might eventually find it's way in. But right now it's simply too divisive. And ultimately it's because both sides in America are too emotional & quick to act.

"Search for truth" isn't the problem in 2023 America. It's discovering what we want and stand for. Liberals argue we have to unearth the past to rip off the bandage. I'm not foreign to this perspective as Holocaust grandchild. But as I said, it's simply too heated right now. We should be coming together not settling scores IMO.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 02:34 AM
CRT might eventually find it's way in. But right now it's simply too divisive. And ultimately it's because both sides in America are too emotional & quick to act.

"Search for truth" isn't the problem in 2023 America. It's discovering what we want and stand for. Liberals argue we have to unearth the past to rip off the bandage. I'm not foreign to this perspective as Holocaust grandchild. But as I said, it's simply too heated right now. We should be coming together not settling scores IMO.It's not about settling scores, but acknowledging facts and history. You can't come together in a lasting and sincere way if you bury the facts.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 02:36 AM
It's not about settling scores, but acknowledging facts and history. You can't come together in a lasting and sincere way if you bury the facts.
I'll play devils advocate. And yet USA was never stronger (recently) than around the early 2000s. When Bush (still my most disliked) led the nation.

What changed? I understand the argument what better time than now? If not now than when? But acknowledge that this search for the truth is dividing this country. Right or Wrong. It's the wedge.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 02:39 AM
I'll play devils advocate...acknowledge that this search for the truth is dividing this country. Right or Wrong. It's the wedge.Your side is anti-truth, thanks for underscoring that.

:tu

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 02:45 AM
Your side is anti-truth, thanks for underscoring that.

:tu
You are a grown man. You have family. Is the search for "truth" always worth an argument?

I might be viewing this too extremely as Polak. We need nation harmony over anything else. America is kinda a collection of entrepreneurs/businesses running the show.


We immigrated to USA on promises and arguments that ultimately were wrong. We were lied to. Does it stop us from contributing to the public, bettering ourselvers & loved ones. And yes helping the System that will give the next "sucker" an opportunity? It's not fucking perfect. But it's been proven successful for 100s of years. That 1 single demographic 12% is losing shouldn't overtake all the successful stories.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 02:47 AM
You are a grown man. You have family. Is the search for "truth" always worth an argument?

I might be viewing this too extremely as Polak. We need nation harmony over anything else. America is kinda a collection of entrepreneurs/businesses running the show.


We immigrated to USA on promises and arguments that ultimately were wrong. We were lied to. Does it stop us from contributing to the public, bettering ourselvers & loved ones. And yes helping the System that will give the next "sucker" an opportunity? It's not fucking perfect. But it's been proven successful for 100s of years. That 1 single demographic 12% is losing shouldn't overtake all the successful stories."Ignore all the dark complected losers, others are winning!"

You're on fire tonight, please keep going.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 02:48 AM
lol kicking all AAs into the loser ditch

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 03:00 AM
"Ignore all the dark complected losers, others are winning!"

You're on fire tonight, please keep going.
I understand. Your perspective is let's focus on the small ignored versus the large successful.

But my viewpoint is from an Immigrant. I had to conform and it made me successful.

The pitfall I think you're making is assuming one can change focus/shift one way and it won't have an affect on the other. IMO Americas focus on small groups has led to a loss in what the greater meaning is. Now American is ambigious and with it the goals.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 03:08 AM
Bottomline:

Am I better - physically, mentally, my values; compared to my cousins that stayed behind the Iron Curtain?

Yes I am. And that's a credit to the American dream system I was raised in - forced to conform.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 03:08 AM
I understand. Your perspective is let's focus on the small ignored versus the large successful.

But my viewpoint is from an Immigrant. I had to conform and it made me successful.

The pitfall I think you're making is assuming one can change focus/shift one way and it won't have an affect on the other. IMO Americas focus on small groups has led to a loss in what the greater meaning is. Now American is ambigious and with it the goals.It's not an either/or situation. Subjugation means one group benefits at the expense of another. Ignoring the power dynamics is only viable if you belong to the favored group.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 03:10 AM
It's not an either/or situation. Subjugation means one group benefits at the expense of another. Ignoring the power dynamics is only viable if you belong to the favored group.
That's fair. I'm believer of either/or. Maybe that's my Eastern side. I've seen examples of the opposite occur in America.

Winehole do you truly believe there are favored groups today beyond $$$.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 03:17 AM
That's fair. I'm believer of either/or. Maybe that's my Eastern side. I've seen examples of the opposite occur in America.

Winehole do you truly believe there are favored groups today beyond $$$.there's the grandiose persecution complex I was talking about earlier, I knew you'd eventually steer back to it. it's one of your biggest themes here.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 03:39 AM
there's the grandiose persecution complex I was talking about earlier, I knew you'd eventually steer back to it. it's one of your biggest themes here.
I'm really not. Regarded as very extroverted and half glass full type.

I'm not saying I don't have insecurities but after living in 3 nations and coming up Germany I feel confident I can be successful anywhere.


I just see & fee injustice occurring. As I know you do. I don't think you are wrong just comprehend the same event a different way. This ultimately comes down to our values, expectations and overall bias.

The funny thing about America is it means different things to different people. But IMO we have to do away with regarding it as systematically wrong etc. No one said its perfect but we are both on this boat by choice

Monostradamus
07-03-2023, 07:05 AM
Imagine spending your life defending on a message board something you yourself can't explain
:lmao the lack of self awareness^

SnakeBoy
07-03-2023, 11:26 AM
Nice to see libs acknowledging CRT exists. Not too long ago, it was a repug conspiracy theory.

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 11:28 AM
Nice to see libs acknowledging CRT exists. Not too long ago, it was a repug conspiracy theory.

We never said it didn't exist.

We said you had no idea what it actually is.

You still don't.:tu

Adam Lambert
07-03-2023, 11:34 AM
Nice to see libs acknowledging CRT exists. Not too long ago, it was a repug conspiracy theory.

Making stuff up again to feel validated, what a lonely and unfulfilled existence.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 11:50 AM
Nice to see libs acknowledging CRT exists. Not too long ago, it was a repug conspiracy theory.
:bobo

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 11:51 AM
We never said it didn't exist.

We said you had no idea what it actually is.

You still don't.:tu
Did you research all night and finally come up with a definition junior?

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 11:53 AM
Nice to see libs acknowledging CRT exists. Not too long ago, it was a repug conspiracy theory.check the dedicated thread, we've long acknowledged there's two versions. the version taught in law schools, which is real; and the made up culture war catchall, which adopts whatever shape white grievance requires.

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 11:54 AM
Did you research all night and finally come up with a definition junior?
I knew the definition all along.

:lol you were finally spoon fed the definition and immediately started talking about-- not CRT.

You proved that actual truth means nothing to you. Your only priority is your sensitive feelings.

:lmao cable news gym vibes

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 11:58 AM
I knew the definition all along.

:lol you were finally spoon fed the definition and immediately started talking about-- not CRT.

You proved that actual truth means nothing to you. Your only priority is your sensitive feelings.

:lmao cable news gym vibes
Why are you keeping this big secret from us?

Just define it :lol wtf

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 12:01 PM
Why are you keeping this big secret from us?

Just define it :lol wtf:lmao Winehole already told you 10 hours ago.

:lmao you seriously can't be this stupid, can you?

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 12:02 PM
Not questioning your intelligence, knowledge or even values but Chump you are arguably the most stubborn person on here.

Congrats Champ

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 12:03 PM
Not questioning your intelligence, knowledge or even values but Chump you are arguably the most stubborn person on here.

Congrats ChampI am questioning your intelligence, knowledge and values because Winehole explicitly told you what CRT actually is in your conversation with him last night and you're still redassing your ignorance.

CosmicCowboy
07-03-2023, 01:09 PM
I am questioning your intelligence, knowledge and values because Winehole explicitly told you what CRT actually is in your conversation with him last night and you're still redassing your ignorance.

Can you give us a post number? We haven't all been living on spurstalk.

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 01:17 PM
Can you give us a post number? We haven't all been living on spurstalk.If you can't catch the clue from "10 hours ago" I don't know what to tell you.

Blake
07-03-2023, 01:25 PM
If you can't catch the clue from "10 hours ago" I don't know what to tell you.

Eh, he doesn't live here and only has 43k posts; you may have to explain how to go back 10 hours.

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 01:28 PM
Eh, he doesn't live here and only has 43k posts; you may have to explain how to go back 10 hours.:lol I was just about to start a flame war with that.

"1) Determine whether you are in the present...."

Adam Lambert
07-03-2023, 01:42 PM
Republicans need CRT to be thought of as something taught in schools to children because the idea of leftist ideology being taught in college doesn't have the same scare power with people who probably won't be going or sending their kids there anyway. Booga booga!

Monostradamus
07-03-2023, 03:19 PM
We never said it didn't exist.

We said you had no idea what it actually is.

You still don't.:tu

:lol another L for SnakeBo (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12109)t. Tough couple of weeks for him.

Monostradamus
07-03-2023, 03:26 PM
Not questioning your intelligence, knowledge or even values but Chump you are arguably the most stubborn person on here.

Congrats Champ
How is it that you’re unable to define something that terrifies you to this degree?

Like if someone says “I’m terrified of spiders” and someone asks them to define what a spider is, they can pretty easily give some general definition of a small eight-legged creature. They wouldn’t start describing a turkey.

You are scared to death of CRT, and yet you can’t define it, and your own attempted definition is completely incorrect :lmao You might be the single dumbest human to ever post here.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 05:42 PM
How is it that you’re unable to define something that terrifies you to this degree?

Like if someone says “I’m terrified of spiders” and someone asks them to define what a spider is, they can pretty easily give some general definition of a small eight-legged creature. They wouldn’t start describing a turkey.

You are scared to death of CRT, and yet you can’t define it, and your own attempted definition is completely incorrect :lmao You might be the single dumbest human to ever post here.
I already defined. And was prime & proper may I add.

If I am incorrect as you state then please explain why.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 05:45 PM
Republicans need CRT to be thought of as something taught in schools to children because the idea of leftist ideology being taught in college doesn't have the same scare power with people who probably won't be going or sending their kids there anyway. Booga booga!
in a backwards way I am starting to agree. Yall can't even define this theory.

Maybe it isn't meant to be taken seriously just a troll.

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 05:46 PM
I already defined. And was prime & proper may I add.

If I am incorrect as you state then please explain why.

:lol you are incorrect because that isn't the correct definition.

Winehole posted it during your conversation with him last night.

Did you even read it?

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 05:47 PM
in a backwards way I am starting to agree. Yall can't even define this theory.
:lmao what is wrong with you?

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 05:48 PM
:lol you are incorrect because that isn't the correct definition.

Winehole posted it during your conversation with him last night.

Did you even read it?
What a pompous ass. "One correct definition"

It's a theory. I can define it anyway I please. And you still have not.

ChumpDumper
07-03-2023, 05:51 PM
What a pompous ass. "One correct definition"Seeing as one person formulated the theory and coined the term, absolutely.

That's how it works.

It's a theory. I can define it anyway I please.You can try, but you're wrong.

That's how it works.

Adam Lambert
07-03-2023, 06:47 PM
in a backwards way I am starting to agree. Yall can't even define this theory.

Maybe it isn't meant to be taken seriously just a troll.

We defined the theory in the 70's and further articulated it in the 1619 Project which is a series you can read anytime you'd like to stop talking out of your ass. You certainly have the free time for it, so your only other excuse must just be avoidance.

Monostradamus
07-03-2023, 06:48 PM
What a pompous ass. "One correct definition"

It's a theory. I can define it anyway I please. And you still have not.
That’s not how theories work :lmao

Blake
07-03-2023, 07:23 PM
It's a theory. I can define it anyway I please.

:lol

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 09:47 PM
Per Christopher Rufo, CRT has been marketed to the right as a catchall for all the bad feels.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFCl3KlXEA00FU1?format=jpg&name=medium

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 09:48 PM
"We have decodified the term"

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 09:51 PM
"...and will recodify it to annex the entire range of cultural constructions that are unpopular with Americans."

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 10:04 PM
CRT wasn't designed for primary education, it's taught in law schools. Y'all just don't like US history that includes civil rights and the long tradition of racial subjugation it includes. Normative legal and social equality for nonwhites is about 60 years old in the USA. Practically, we never got there.Posters like Millenial_Messiah -- and, I would guess, a large number of squishy right wingers here -- would rather do away with democracy altogether than have social equality. This is Trump's main appeal to people, imho.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 10:20 PM
Posters like Millenial_Messiah -- and, I would guess, a large number of squishy right wingers here -- would rather do away with democracy altogether than have social equality. This is Trump's main appeal to people, imho.
Who isn't viewed or treated fair in 2023 USA? Trans people?

American ghetto-ness has never been more socially accepted in media and at jobs. I honestly feel mass culture (along with many corporations) have gone too far and I'd support a return to certain values/foundation.

Yet you are claiming it isn't far enough.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 10:22 PM
Who isn't viewed or treated fair in 2023 USA? Trans people?

American ghetto-ness has never been more socially accepted in media and at jobs. I honestly feel mass culture (along with many corporations) have gone too far and I'd support a return to certain values/foundation.

Yet you are claiming it isn't far enough.That's right.

Cope harder.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 10:24 PM
That's right.

Cope harder.
? Which part are you agreeing with.

I'm not saying I'm right or it has to be this way. Just stated what I would prefer. You are judging a nation of 330 Million based on just one tiny demographic? I think that's rather idealistic.

Winehole23
07-03-2023, 10:29 PM
The US has good points and bad points, it's mixed. Neither wholly good nor wholly bad.

Sweeping the bad stuff under the rug to soothe yourself is more or less a cop out and dishonest.

FrostKing
07-03-2023, 10:39 PM
The US has good points and bad points, it's mixed. Neither wholly good nor wholly bad.

Sweeping the bad stuff under the rug to soothe yourself is more or less a cop out and dishonest.
That's fair.

Ef-man
07-04-2023, 07:16 AM
Chickens have come home to roost :lmao :lmao :lmao


Three minority advocacy groups are suing Harvard University’s governing body, accusing the school of discrimination by giving preferential treatment to children of wealthy donors and alumni, and are citing the recent US Supreme Court ruling that gutted affirmative action to bolster their lawsuit.

The lawsuit, filed by the Lawyers for Civil Rights group on behalf of the Chica Project, the African Community Economic Development of New England, and the Greater Boston Latino Network, alleges the students who receive that preferential treatment are “overwhelmingly White,” and make up as much as 15% of admitted students.

“This preferential treatment has nothing to do with an applicant’s merit. Instead, it is an unfair and unearned benefit that is conferred solely based on the family that the applicant is born into,” Lawyers for Civil Rights said in a news release. “This custom, pattern, and practice is exclusionary and discriminatory. It severely disadvantages and harms applicants of color.”

https://www.cnn.com/harvard-college-legacy-admissions-lawsuit (https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/03/us/harvard-college-legacy-admissions-lawsuit/index.html)

SnakeBoy
07-04-2023, 11:49 AM
Oh cool a lawsuit. Hopefully they can take it all the way to the SC.

pgardn
07-04-2023, 02:18 PM
That's fine. Atleast legacies have a part in the success the school is today. "They helped build it" but again I agree do away with it too.

Yes they have success giving $ to the school.
So their kids get accepted because they give money to a school.

Yeah. No preferences here. Its all based on merit. And merit is your parents give money to the school. They are responsible for the success of the school.
Holy shit...

And even if they give zero $ to the school and the parents just stand out as a shining example of what the school can produce, does this mean the children get a merit badge to allow them to get accepted.

Its hypocrisy. The SC and everyone in the country sees it. But if you are the red team you bathe in hypocrisy so it does not matter.

SnakeBoy
07-13-2023, 11:17 AM
I feel bad for ones stuck at the bottom. System must be rigged.

https://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Income-race-ethnicity-1024x1024.jpg

ChumpDumper
07-13-2023, 11:33 AM
I feel bad for ones stuck at the bottom. System must be rigged.

https://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Income-race-ethnicity-1024x1024.jpg

Racism never existed and the governing whites have always been perfect.

daboom1
07-13-2023, 02:23 PM
I feel bad for ones stuck at the bottom. System must be rigged.

https://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Income-race-ethnicity-1024x1024.jpg

white peepo rigged it

Winehole23
08-16-2023, 12:18 AM
cartel-like suppression of financial aid

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FrostKing
08-16-2023, 03:41 AM
Racism never existed and the governing whites have always been perfect.
Imagine having a 400-year head start on almost everyone and still ending up on the bottom

USA should ban Rap tomorrow tbh. We need to help our brothas.

Hank Scorpio
08-16-2023, 04:44 AM
I feel bad for ones stuck at the bottom. System must be rigged.

https://www.stephenhicks.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Income-race-ethnicity-1024x1024.jpg

The only group you guys asides from whites is Cubans iirc so this chart so this chart shows how hard working and high-earning many of the "lazy" Democrats looking for handouts are

FuzzyLumpkins
08-16-2023, 04:56 AM
Imagine having a 400-year head start on almost everyone and still ending up on the bottom

USA should ban Rap tomorrow tbh. We need to help our brothas.

Imagine being enslaved for 300 years, legally discriminated for 350 years, and culturally discriminated by shitbags such as yourself to this very day.

The top countries for H1B visa holders in the US are India, China, Canada, South Korea, Philippines, UK, Taiwan, Mexico, France, and Pakistan.


The occupation requires:
Theoretical and practical application of a body of highly specialized knowledge; and

Attainment of a bachelor's or higher degree in the specific specialty (or its equivalent) as a minimum for entry into the occupation in the United States.

The position must also meet one of the following criteria to qualify as a specialty occupation:

Bachelor’s or higher degree or its equivalent is normally the minimum entry requirement for the particular position
The degree requirement is common to the industry in parallel positions among similar organizations or, in the alternative, the job is so complex or unique that it can be performed only by an individual with a degree
The employer normally requires a degree or its equivalent for the position
The nature of the specific duties is so specialized and complex that the knowledge required to perform the duties is usually associated with the attainment of a bachelor’s or higher degree.*

FrostKing
08-16-2023, 05:19 AM
Imagine being enslaved for 300 years, legally discriminated for 350 years, and culturally discriminated by shitbags such as yourself to this very day.

The top countries for H1B visa holders in the US are India, China, Canada, South Korea, Philippines, UK, Taiwan, Mexico, France, and Pakistan.
Ah we were off the map for 123 years. Fought for our Independence and then were double teamed abducted for another 50 years.

Booming Nation & People today. No excuses.


Edit: Have to help your own, no one else will. But can't do it in a vindictive way. Blacks in America love to use the term AA but they don't connect or even like those people. There needs to be a root or foundation to be proud of. Black-Americans lack that in part because Africa still continues to struggle. Polaks born in America look proudly at their heritage today.

Trill Clinton
08-16-2023, 08:03 AM
Ah we were off the map for 123 years. Fought for our Independence and then were double teamed abducted for another 50 years.

Booming Nation & People today. No excuses.


Edit: Have to help your own, no one else will. But can't do it in a vindictive way. Blacks in America love to use the term AA but they don't connect or even like those people. There needs to be a root or foundation to be proud of. Black-Americans lack that in part because Africa still continues to struggle. Polaks born in America look proudly at their heritage today.

Uhh no we don't like the term AA. We have no relationship with Africa. We are foundational Black Americans. My ancestors built this country, fought and died for the rights that immigrants like you come here for. You're welcome. Immigrants like you who flee their war torn, poverty stricken countries are always telling us what we need to do.

ChumpDumper
08-16-2023, 08:08 AM
Imagine having a 400-year head start on almost everyone and still ending up on the bottom

USA should ban Rap tomorrow tbh. We need to help our brothas.

Why did you end up on the bottom?

FrostKing
08-16-2023, 08:10 AM
Uhh no we don't like the term AA. We have no relationship with Africa. We are foundational Black Americans. My ancestors built this country, fought and died for the rights that immigrants like you come here for. You're welcome. Immigrants like you who flee their war torn, poverty stricken countries are always telling us what we need to do.
I respect that.

SnakeBoy
08-16-2023, 10:52 AM
If I got one thing against the black chappies, it's this - no one gives it to you. You have to take it. When you decide to be something, you can be it.

ChumpDumper
08-16-2023, 10:57 AM
If I got one thing against the black chappies, it's this - no one gives it to you. You have to take it. When you decide to be something, you can be it.Tell that to Oliver Anthony.

Thread
08-16-2023, 10:58 AM
If I got one thing against the black chappies, it's this - no one gives it to you. You have to take it. When you decide to be something, you can be it.

Prime example? Trump marching Hillary out just before midnight Election Night & breakin' her hole.

Winehole23
09-18-2024, 07:42 AM
step one: Asian students sue Ivy League colleges to undo race-based admissions.

step two: win at Supreme Court

step three: admissions of Asian students decreases at Ivy League schools

step four: Asian students prepare to sue


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXwguEZXYAAQu2H?format=jpg&name=900x900

Winehole23
09-18-2024, 09:33 PM
looks like it wasn't affirmative action holding them back, it was just racism.

now that the legal barrier to that has been removed, Asian admissions went down.

Winehole23
09-18-2024, 09:34 PM
so much for merit-based Ivy League admissions