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BatManu20
06-30-2023, 07:41 PM
4-years*/$12M deal.

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slick'81
06-30-2023, 07:43 PM
Thats what im talking about

SpursFan86
06-30-2023, 07:43 PM
Showed a lot of promise down the stretch last year. Time will tell whether it was legitimate or just a fluke, but I trust the FO’s judgment if they’re wanting to keep him here.

timvp
06-30-2023, 07:44 PM
Nice :tu

Yeah, AFAIK, if he agreed to sign his two-way contract, that would increase San Antonio's cap space.

But, then again, Champagnie played well enough last season that the Spurs could justify giving him something like a three-year deal at the minimum with it mostly guaranteed.

ace3g
06-30-2023, 07:50 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn)18s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1674943244617097224)Champagnie agrees to a 4-year, $12M deal, agents Nick Blatchford and Derek Jackson of @UNLTD_sports (https://twitter.com/UNLTD_sports/) tell ESPN. Final year is a team option. He averaged 11 points ins final 15 games for Spurs.

Chinook
06-30-2023, 07:50 PM
Definitely makes wing the most "set" unit on the team. He had talent and may yet beat Branham out for minutes. Very good deep-bench player.

spurraider21
06-30-2023, 07:52 PM
4/12 with last year being team option? good, bassey-esque deal for us

Chinook
06-30-2023, 07:52 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn)18s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1674943244617097224)Champagnie agrees to a 4-year, $12M deal, agents Nick Blatchford and Derek Jackson of @UNLTD_sports (https://twitter.com/UNLTD_sports/) tell ESPN. Final year is a team option. He averaged 11 points ins final 15 games for Spurs.

Hmm... Hope he means a real TO while the third year is non-guaranteed. I like Champ, but not enough for three guaranteed years.

Dejounte
06-30-2023, 07:53 PM
Change title to four years please. Wow. Thats a long deal. They really liked him.

rankingtear
06-30-2023, 07:54 PM
Yeah you don't let go of this kind of wing.

timvp
06-30-2023, 07:54 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
(https://twitter.com/wojespn)18s (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1674943244617097224)Champagnie agrees to a 4-year, $12M deal, agents Nick Blatchford and Derek Jackson of @UNLTD_sports (https://twitter.com/UNLTD_sports/) tell ESPN. Final year is a team option. He averaged 11 points ins final 15 games for Spurs.

Damn, well, yeah, that's one way to reach the salary floor. :lol Bruno and I think Chinook brought up a possibility like this.

$12 million over four years descending with the fourth year a team option? I'm pretty happy with that. You lock him in at a low price for quite a while.

Champagnie at worst looked like a capable 10th man. At best, you can't close the door on him being a fifth starter at some point down the road.

BatManu20
06-30-2023, 07:56 PM
40% 3-Pt shooter who just turned 22 yesterday. I actually like locking him up on a long-term deal. Exactly what we need around Wemby tbh.

Ariel
06-30-2023, 07:58 PM
Hmm... Hope he means a real TO while the third year is non-guaranteed. I like Champ, but not enough for three guaranteed years.
Best case scenario you get a bargain at years 3 and 4 (3M will be the price for pizza it seems). Worst case scenario, you can dump him (and then some) with a crappy 2nd. Carries some risk, but they evidently liked him enough to make that gamble.

slick'81
06-30-2023, 07:59 PM
Keep shooting julian

spurraider21
06-30-2023, 08:01 PM
40% 3-Pt shooter who just turned 22 yesterday. I actually like locking him up on a long-term deal. Exactly what we need around Wemby tbh.
ehh. 35% in college (88 games). then 33% in gleague (26 games), then 40% in a 15 game sample with the spurs... im not sold on the shooting just yet

Mr. Body
06-30-2023, 08:04 PM
Probably not the shooter like Max Strus and some of the other guys getting barrels of cash, but those guys are getting barrels of cash.

And JC has some skills beyond shooting from deep.

timvp
06-30-2023, 08:04 PM
Wow. Thats a long deal. They really liked him.

Yeah, that's my main takeaway too. It's difficult to tell what's what at the end of a tanking season but the Spurs obviously loved what they saw behind closed doors in addition to what he was doing on the basketball court in games.

Ariel
06-30-2023, 08:05 PM
Also, I think this explains why we moved #33... they preferred to commit long term to their own prospects.

Obstructed_View
06-30-2023, 08:10 PM
Also, I think this explains why we moved #33... they preferred to commit long term to their own prospects.
Agree. I'm not certain there isn't a plan to sneak Mamu back once some dust has settled.

timvp
06-30-2023, 08:13 PM
I wouldn't give Mamu the same contract -- sounds a little bit too rich for him. But something similar would be fine. Shave a couple million off and Mamu at that level is a good get.

CGD
06-30-2023, 08:14 PM
Also, I think this explains why we moved #33... they preferred to commit long term to their own prospects.

Makes sense.

Maybe this ends up looking like “the Bassey” in structure (but more money). Not bad, especially now that they’ve cycled through the KBD.

slick'81
06-30-2023, 08:15 PM
Hopefully hes not another bryn but im looking forward to studying him more

Mr. Body
06-30-2023, 08:16 PM
I wouldn't give Mamu the same contract -- sounds a little bit too rich for him. But something similar would be fine. Shave a couple million off and Mamu at that level is a good get.

Agreed. I'd be totally puzzled if they let Mamu go. Not picking up the QO but then doing so for Champ and immediately giving him a contract... doesn't bode well for Sandro.

poopbox
06-30-2023, 08:20 PM
Salary floor reaching move and nothing more TBH.

If this dude has to play important minutes for us then this team won't be having a very good season.

Not mad at it though. Somebody had to get that money.

Mr. Body
06-30-2023, 08:22 PM
Salary floor reaching move and nothing more TBH.

If this dude has to play important minutes for us then this team won't be having a very good season.

Not mad at it though. Somebody had to get that money.

They'll use his shooting.

Dejounte
06-30-2023, 08:22 PM
Makes sense. Two way contracts that lead to this where they can see how the player fits within the organization > second round picks where the team is forced to sometimes give a guaranteed contract (rare cases where they accept a two way)

poopbox
06-30-2023, 08:26 PM
They'll use his shooting.

When they start the 4th quarter down 17

Dejounte
06-30-2023, 08:29 PM
A salary floor reaching move would be a 2 year or less contract than a 4 year one. This one was strategic.

spurraider21
06-30-2023, 08:33 PM
hope its a frontloaded deal

Mr. Body
06-30-2023, 08:36 PM
When they start the 4th quarter down 17

Nah. He's the only player on the roster with his role, other than McDermott, and he's a better defender. This isn't a salary floor move. It's a 'we like this player' move.

onechance87
06-30-2023, 08:42 PM
Hopefully hes not another bryn but im looking forward to studying him more

Better rebounding,Better defender,And is not undersized

spurraider21
06-30-2023, 08:44 PM
the new neal/bryn is Rice, not Champagnie

timtonymanu
06-30-2023, 08:45 PM
Hopefully hes not another bryn but im looking forward to studying him more

He's not making us title contenders tomorrow, but he sure as hell looked better than Forbes last year.

cjw
06-30-2023, 09:09 PM
Best case scenario you get a bargain at years 3 and 4 (3M will be the price for pizza it seems). Worst case scenario, you can dump him (and then some) with a crappy 2nd. Carries some risk, but they evidently liked him enough to make that gamble.

Or you can dump him after one year and literally have $6mm in dead cap. Or $3mm after year two.

Wouldn't surprise me if they frontloaded as well.

DPG21920
06-30-2023, 09:30 PM
hope its a frontloaded deal

Yup! Give him 4/5M year 1 and this deal is no risk. League min is 2.5M and will go up next few years as cap rises. Front loaded deal would be amazing

TDMVPDPOY
06-30-2023, 09:39 PM
locking up players to peanut contracts, nothing to see here move along chimps.....beats the other teams shelling out stupid money this year FA...VF rockets 130m/3yr wtf this scrub has ever done to receive franchise player type money

cutewizard
06-30-2023, 11:20 PM
This is a good plaed for us

jesterbobman
06-30-2023, 11:57 PM
Sensible. If you think a guy is decent, even as just a guy / near replacement level player and can lock him up relatively cheap, there's not too much downside (and, with the Spurs seeing him over the last 2 1/2 months since the end of the season, I bet they're confident).

The other thing is the player type is basically always useful (if the shot holds up). If he keeps going, I could see a contender trading a decent pick (late first / early second) at some point to get him and his bird rights. Basically, can't have enough wing shooters.

Russ
07-01-2023, 01:20 AM
This will look like such a bargain down the line.

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DrSteffo
07-01-2023, 01:33 AM
Happy to see this. We need shooting and he might even get better.

wildbill2u
07-01-2023, 10:57 AM
Let's think about this in terms of the effect on the rotation at SF. He Didn't have much of a run in the number of games at the end of the season, but if he continues to shoot 3s that well as well as doing some dirty work on boards and defense, he might prove to be a real competitor for KJ's job at SF. At three inches taller and perhaps a faster better defender, this could be a swing for the fences move to free the FO to move KJ at the highest point of his career so far. Maybe better than a draft pick for a better SF because they know a lot more about his skills as a NBA proven player than they would with a low draft pick. At worst, he should be a good player behind Johnson without much drop-off when he comes into the game. The length of the contract ceases to be a head-scratcher if you assume they really liked what they saw in his abbreviated season and felt he fills the need for a decent sized SF on the roster.

BackHome
07-01-2023, 01:54 PM
Yeah, it was a very nice contract for the Spurs the kid is a legit 6'8 and is a very good defender and a lights out spot up shooter. The things he got dinged for was creating for himself he doesn't have that first step to beat anyone and his handles need work. Also, he needs to work on his passing, but he has a good foundation to work with.

The Spurs now got Keldon, Cissko, Jualian, and Sochan playing the SF position

D-Robinson 50 fan
07-01-2023, 05:44 PM
Good deal for a dude who could get some real minutes as a 3&D prospect.

slick'81
07-01-2023, 05:46 PM
Julian never appeared to be a good defender. Has that changed ?!

Obstructed_View
07-01-2023, 06:12 PM
Julian never appeared to be a good defender. Has that changed ?!

Everyone on the Spurs was abysmal on defense last year. I guess we will have to wait to find out if it was an act or not.

Mr. Body
07-01-2023, 06:25 PM
JC's steal % his last year in college was 3.1, which generally relates to a strong feel for basketball and potential, although it doesn't always translate.

mo7888
07-01-2023, 06:28 PM
Everyone on the Spurs were abysmal on defense last year. I guess we will have to wait to find out if it was an act or not.

Yep, I don't you can judge any of our players defensive prowess based on last year..

BackHome
07-01-2023, 06:40 PM
Yeah, I would say he is probably the second best defender we have at SF if you don't include Sochan - he has real quick feet and quick hands so he can stay in front of fast guards and gets a lot of steals/deflections. He is a good man on man defender and a decent team defender though he won't get a lot of blocks I think his wing span is only 6'10. It's kind of weird that he has the foot speed to stay in front of quick guards but on the offense side he has not shown the ability to use it to get to the rim and like a lot of other rookies we have has a hard time finishing at the rim unless he is dunking - he is good at slashing to the rim and dunking. I really really like this singing

It will be interesting to see him and Sidy play in Vegas - both are good defenders though Sidy is probably better at team defense. On the offense it's night and day between the two.

BatManu20
07-04-2023, 03:29 AM
Like I said the other day, I’m glad we locked this guy up long-term tbh.

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lefty20
07-04-2023, 04:35 AM
Wright got us that champagne for the price of beer, tbh.

Spurs9
07-04-2023, 09:14 AM
Wright got us that champagne for the price of beer, tbh.

Wright turning out to be one of the best gm's, stacking picks, getting bargain contracts and not overpaying for people.

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-04-2023, 09:29 AM
Wright turning out to be one of the best gm's, stacking picks, getting bargain contracts and not overpaying for people.

That’s Brian Right.

However, his evil twin Brian Wrong can’t sign anyone, nor manage cap space, he only cares about SRPs.

Seventyniner
07-04-2023, 12:15 PM
Wright got us that champagne for the price of beer, tbh.

Champagnie sure outplayed Miller High Life last night.

spurraider21
07-06-2023, 02:38 PM
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Ed Helicopter Jones
07-06-2023, 02:51 PM
If Champagnie can translate any of this summer league performance into his play in the grown-up league then this deal looks pretty amazing.

exstatic
07-06-2023, 02:58 PM
If Champagnie can translate any of this summer league performance into his play in the grown-up league then this deal looks pretty amazing.

He actually played really well when given minutes during that stint at the end of last season. One of the reasons he was in SL was to verify that his 40% 3 pt shooting was legit. He's 10-22 in two games, so I'd say yes to that.

DPG21920
07-10-2023, 06:20 PM
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timvp
07-10-2023, 06:38 PM
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Year 2 non-guaranteed but year 3 guaranteed? Never seen a deal like that, tbh. Year 4 ... there's a difference between team option and non-guaranteed. I wonder which one it is.

Chinook
07-10-2023, 06:41 PM
Year 2 non-guaranteed but year 3 guaranteed? Never seen a deal like that, tbh. Year 4 ... there's a difference between team option and non-guaranteed. I wonder which one it is.

You can have a non-guaranteed team option, but I'm pretty sure you can't guarantee more in a subsequent year than in a prior year. I think he either mixed up years two and three or that both are non-guaranteed.

tonight...you
07-10-2023, 06:43 PM
Year 2 non-guaranteed but year 3 guaranteed? Never seen a deal like that, tbh. Year 4 ... there's a difference between team option and non-guaranteed. I wonder which one it is.
Teams are getting increasingly creative with contracts and signings lately.
The Jazz/76'ers match deal is also a new wrinkle.
I'm assuming the new CBA is responsible.

Might need a deep dive into why these novel changes are happening in new deals and transactions going forward.

tonight...you
07-10-2023, 06:44 PM
You can have a non-guaranteed team option, but I'm pretty sure you can't guarantee more in a subsequent year than in a prior year. I think he either mixed up years two and three or that both are non-guaranteed.
Maybe they flipped Years 2 and 3 accidentally?
If they didn't and it was league approved though...

Mugen
07-10-2023, 06:50 PM
Deserves a shot at the rotation and can hopefully make McD redundant to the point that we can afford to trade Doug's expiring for assets at the deadline.

CGD
07-10-2023, 07:47 PM
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This is what Spotrac actually reports:

2023-24: guaranteed in full
2024-25: non-guaranteed, guarantees 8/1/24
2025-26: non-guaranteed, guarantees 8/1/25
2026-27: Club Option/non-guaranteed, guarantees 8/1/26 (option deadline 6/29/26)

CGD
07-10-2023, 07:47 PM
Teams are getting increasingly creative with contracts and signings lately.
The Jazz/76'ers match deal is also a new wrinkle.
I'm assuming the new CBA is responsible.

Might need a deep dive into why these novel changes are happening in new deals and transactions going forward.

Nah, I think Garcia just misfired on this one. It happens

tonight...you
07-10-2023, 07:48 PM
Nah, I think Garcia just misfired on this one. It happens
Gotcha. Appreciated.

DPG21920
07-10-2023, 08:00 PM
Incredible deal for spurs. There’s zero risk.

timvp
07-10-2023, 08:21 PM
This is what Spotrac actually reports:

2023-24: guaranteed in full
2024-25: non-guaranteed, guarantees 8/1/24
2025-26: non-guaranteed, guarantees 8/1/25
2026-27: Club Option/non-guaranteed, guarantees 8/1/26 (option deadline 6/29/26)

Damn, that is a good deal for the Spurs. Only $3 million guaranteed? August guarantee dates so that they can carry him into free agency on a non-guaranteed deal?

That's one of the safest contracts you'll ever see. In exchange for $3 million guaranteed this season, the Spurs got three extra years of control that they don't even need to guarantee until after free agency runs its course. Woah.

DPG21920
07-10-2023, 08:35 PM
Ya they’re literally zero risk. All the money that’s guaranteed is this year when they needed to hit floor anyways. If he’s a legit shooter it’s an incredible deal.

Kurik
07-10-2023, 08:42 PM
The future is Bwright!

RC_Drunkford
07-10-2023, 09:14 PM
Spurs killing it with these Bassey and Champagnie deals. Barlow is next up

spurraider21
07-10-2023, 09:57 PM
Wow that’s a hell of a deal. Other than frontloading it i don’t really see anything else the spurs could have done to make this better

emanueldavidginobili
07-10-2023, 10:03 PM
Deserves a shot at the rotation and can hopefully make McD redundant to the point that we can afford to trade Doug's expiring for assets at the deadline.
For sure. There shouldn’t be any reason Doug gets minutes over him. But it is Pop so I’m sure he will make him work for it. Even last year towards the end of the season Julian was playing good against NBA players.

MultiTroll
07-10-2023, 10:21 PM
You Bud Light sniffers are whack.

onechance87
07-10-2023, 10:23 PM
Spurs killing it with these Bassey and Champagnie deals. Barlow is next up

wonder whats taking long with barlow

RC_Drunkford
07-10-2023, 10:51 PM
wonder whats taking long with barlow

we have 17 players under contract

FuzzyLumpkins
07-10-2023, 11:14 PM
Damn, that is a good deal for the Spurs. Only $3 million guaranteed? August guarantee dates so that they can carry him into free agency on a non-guaranteed deal?

That's one of the safest contracts you'll ever see. In exchange for $3 million guaranteed this season, the Spurs got three extra years of control that they don't even need to guarantee until after free agency runs its course. Woah.

That is like an NFL contract.

onechance87
07-11-2023, 05:46 AM
we have 17 players under contract

dang....hope we can make room for him....would hate to lose him for nothing.

Chinook
07-11-2023, 08:10 AM
Wow that’s a hell of a deal. Other than frontloading it i don’t really see anything else the spurs could have done to make this better

Front-loading it might've been useless. Those back years would've likely been under the minimum, meaning they'd get adjusted upwards. I haven't seen if the min is being adjusted with the new CBA. I don't think his contract will have to be adjusted as is, but we'll see.

The non-guaranteed years makes this a really good deal. Definitely smells of a Hinkie special now.

TD 21
07-13-2023, 04:36 PM
He not only looks the part of a rotation player, but a possible starter in time. More well rounded than conventional wisdom.

He's got a chance to eventually make Johnson expendable.

illusioNtEk
07-15-2023, 01:30 AM
KJ due for a huge contract soon.... will spurs let him walk? only time will tell....

RC_Drunkford
07-15-2023, 03:31 AM
KJ due for a huge contract soon.... will spurs let him walk? only time will tell....

:lmao he's under contract for 4 more years. That's like saying Wemby is due for a huge contract extension soon

lefty20
07-15-2023, 03:35 AM
KJ due for a huge contract soon.... will spurs let him walk? only time will tell....

His current contract runs through the 26/27 season. Is that really considered soon?

illusioNtEk
07-15-2023, 07:04 AM
Ugh my bad guys lol

K...
07-15-2023, 05:36 PM
Ugh my bad guys lol

you meant trade KJ for three 2 second round picks and we knew what you meant