Expectations for Victor Wembanyama's First Season

[CorrectCrusader]

Alrighty spurstalk. What are you expectations, (Reasonable and unreasonable) for Victor this upcoming season? Doesn't have to be about stats, could be about his haircut frequency for all I care.

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[spurraider21]

if he doesnt lead the league in blocks its purely a lack of effort on his part. might have been taking it easy in summer league, but even though he was blocking shots there, didnt really see instances of him flying across the lane to swat something

[Mr. Body]

He's going to be much better than many people think. Somehow he's already been downplayed and disregarded, even on this board when we talk about season expectations.

[Big Empty]

18/9/3.5

Rookie of the year

[TrainOfThought5]

It really depends on his outside shot. And how quickly he adapts on the boards against more physical defenders. Reliably knocking down a couple threes a game would be fantastic for his spacing

[FuzzyLumpkins]

For the team. I expect it to be the beginning of the arrow up towards becoming legitimate contenders. It is only the beginning of the process.

As for Wemby given his age and the nature of human development, I see him steadily improving over the next 5 years as he reaches his physical peak. Shot, handle, strength and corporate knowledge are going to be the major axis of improvement. He was born with touch and instincts that will be honed and applied.

I am really looking forward to it.

[baseline bum]

20 ppg on 43% FG (31% 3FG)
8 reb
4 blk
ROY
Spurs record: 36-46

Don't think he's really going to be load managed too much. Might get the occasional rest game but I'm not buying this media hype about Pop sitting him out of back to backs to not even playing him 65 games. I do think he's going to have streaky shooting nights, hence the 43% FG.

[KobesAchilles]

He’s going to struggle early. Like 15 ppg and 7 rebounds per game. His efficiency isn’t going to be great either at like 45%. Pop is going to hold him back. His teammates are going to ice him out (not bc they’re bad people but bc they don’t know what it’s like to actually have a franchise player who should get the ball.) KJ and Vassell will be outshooting him. KJ at 17 shots a game and Vassell at 16. While Wemby will be at like 14.

second half of the season Pop is going to actually start treating him like a fucking franchise player and his stats are gonna skyrocket 22 and 10. He’s going to know his spots, teammates are gonna pass him the ball or they won’t play. Pop is going to go ballistic at Kj and bench him. Tre Jones might actually learn how to play pic n roll effectively and maybe just maybe he will hit his wide ass open 3 point shots. and the whole team is going to learn how to throw a fucking lob pass but most effective will be Sochan. And Victor will shine and win ROY

[Adam21]

30/20
Finals MVP

[baseline bum]

30/20
Finals MVP

How many rebounds?

[exstatic]

23/8/4.5

[Adam21]

How many rebounds?

Too many to keep track

[John B]

22 pts, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks, 5 assists. ROY, All-NBA Defensive Team if not DPOY, 2nd Team All-NBA, All-Star. Spurs win 45+

[Splits]

busted ACL

[Leetonidas]

18/8/2/3 in 28mpg. ROY

[JPB]

18/9/3.5

Rookie of the year

Add a couple rebounds and we agree.

[BacktoBasics]

17/7/2.5 and probably averages less than 31mpg

[lefty20]

18/8.5/3/2.5 with 45%fg & 32% 3p @ 30mpg

[Biggems]

18 pts
11 rbs
7 ast
4 blk
1 stl
3 to

ROY

Spurs record 46-36

[DAF86]

Around 20/10/3(blks). Give or take 2pts and 2 rbds. Around 45% from the field.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

busted ACL

break a leg

[baseline bum]

18 pts
11 rbs
7 ast
4 blk
1 stl
3 to

ROY

Spurs record 46-36

Would probably have to be more like 28 and 12 to make the Spurs a playoff team with homecourt in the first round unless you're also calling huge jumps from Devin and Jeremy this year.

[Frenchfred]

Something like 16 points, 8 rebounds and 2.5 block.

[MultiTroll]

I'm seeing a lot of nifty passes by Wama turn into .....bricks?

Teams are gonna double him and we need others to step up and make open shots.

Confidence level in that in this point, along with CIA Pop strategies......eeesh.

I gotta see who does or does not joing the roster in these next months.

Wama is gonna kick ass. He might be surrounded by incompetence.

[sfernald]

40/20/8(balks) or we cut him next summer.

but really I don’t care about the stats. I expect 50 wins! That’s all. Just 50 wins. Stats don’t matter a bit!

[quentin_compson]

What do people think as to MPG Wemby will play? Duncan played 39 MPG in his first season, which seems rather outlandish these days. Will Victor even crack 30 MPG? I kind of doubt it.

[timtonymanu]

Wemby as long as he's healthy should easily average over 30MPG. :lol Come on now, this isn't 2014.

[scott]

I think Wemby will:

1) Play more than people think (in MPG and # of games)
2) Less ppg than people think (I'll say 17-18ppg)
3) More rebounds than guesses so far (11-12 rpg)
4) A bpg stat that is eye popping in the modern era (I'll go 3.5 bpg)
5) A surprising assist stat line (5 apg)
6) A huge year for someone else who really capitalizes on Wemby's gravity (how about Tre or Bran)

[XenoThirteen]

32mpg
70 games played

19 ppg on 45% fg%, 33% 3p%, 80% FT
11 rpg
3 assists
3.5 blocks
0.5 steals

spurs end up with a record of 33-49.

Is in the talks for ROY but will ultimately go to Chet for BS reasons.

Goes to the Olympics with a chip on his shoulder, puts up MVP numbers, and carries the French team to the finals to lose to the US in a close game for gold.

[tonight...you]

I think Wemby will:

1) Play more than people think (in MPG and # of games)
2) Less ppg than people think (I'll say 17-18ppg)
3) More rebounds than guesses so far (11-12 rpg)
4) A bpg stat that is eye popping in the modern era (I'll go 3.5 bpg)
5) A surprising assist stat line (5 apg)
6) A huge year for someone else who really capitalizes on Wemby's gravity (how about Tre or Bran)
I'm going to go with a switch of your #'s 2 & 3.
I think he's going to get a few more ppg and a few less rpg.

But it's all a guessing game at this point, right?

[TDomination]

His defense will be elite from day 1.
I don’t know why but i have a feeling he will be hot from offense in the beginning. He average about 25ppg in the first 3 weeks or so.
but then he will hit a wall, teams will come down in him hard and he will have trouble adjusting at first, but then slowly he will start adapting to being double/triple teamed

[Biggems]

Would probably have to be more like 28 and 12 to make the Spurs a playoff team with homecourt in the first round unless you're also calling huge jumps from Devin and Jeremy this year.

As a whole, the team will improve. I think Champ and Barlow will add some firepower off the bench. Our defense was horrible last year. This year I think we move into the top 18 or so as a team on the defensive side of the ball.

[AusSpur]

Sam Vecenie - "He’ll average something like 15 points, 10 rebounds and three blocks as a rookie."

Me - 17/8/3

[MultiTroll]

What do people think as to MPG Wemby will play? Duncan played 39 MPG in his first season, which seems rather outlandish these days. Will Victor even crack 30 MPG? I kind of doubt it.
How many games and MPG do you / we want rookie Wama participating in? - Page 2 (spurstalk.com) (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=301949&page=2)

[slick'81]

27.5 mpg
21 ppg
10 rpg
4 blk
3.5 assist
77%ft
47%fg
3point%32

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

injury that takes him out for a chunk of the season
spurstalk split between if this makes him a bust or not
he comes back on normal rehab time
spurstalk reunites behind him
he 'doesn't look like himself' for a large portion of the remaining games
spurstalk split between if he will make it or not (people throw up excuses like 'rookie wall')
he gets shut down for the last ~20 games
spurstalk largely agrees CIA pop is just tanking for another lotto pick
vic never plays more than 47 games per year at 18mpg for the spurs
vic ends up signing his 2nd contract for the minimum with sacramento, where thibs is now the coach
he plays the first month at 47 mpg and then both legs turn to dust
spurstalk split on whether we should have drafted Scoot who has become a perennial all-star

[Thomas82]

He's going to be much better than many people think. Somehow he's already been downplayed and disregarded, even on this board when we talk about season expectations.

These are my exact thoughts.

[Silverheart80]

22 pts, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks, 5 assists. ROY, All-NBA Defensive Team if not DPOY, 2nd Team All-NBA, All-Star. Spurs win 45+

These numbers sound about right. So long as VW doesn't suffer any catastrophic injury, knock on wood.

As I've mentioned elsewhere -- Spurs will struggle during the first half of the season, as Pop experiments with lineups and minutes. VW will experience foul trouble, turnovers and some tough shooting nights in the beginning. And yet he'll still be spectacular amidst all that.

Spurs will finish the first half of the season playing .500 ball, around 30-30. Pop will solidify the roles and roster at the All-Star break, and from there, it's .700 ball, which means about 15 more wins.

VW wins ROY. I think there's a very good chance he also wins Defensive Player of the Year this season. He'll flirt with a quadruple-double (but not quite achieve it) at least once as a rookie.

I think Devin is the deciding factor for how many games the Spurs win this season. Sochan has more dawg in him than any other player on the team, but he's not the guy you want taking a last shot. Not yet. Will be curious how much dawg Devin shows this season. It's time for him to be this team's closer. But I'm not sure he's capable of it, tbh. For me, Devin's performances in crunchtime will be the most intriguing thing to watch.

Spurs finish with 45 wins -- good for a top-6 seed in the West.:hat

[Vince Carter's ankle]

70+ games
30+ mpg
23 ppg
10 rpg
4 ast
3 blk
48 fg%
36 3p%
85 ft%
all star
roy
3rd all-nba team
2nd all-defensive team

[Ariel]

70+ games
30+ mpg
23 ppg
10 rpg
4 ast
3 blk
48 fg%
36 3p%
85 ft%
all star
roy
3rd all-nba team
2nd all-defensive team
That's crazy. I hope you're right but I'd be happy with much less.

[Ignazzz]

First b2b in spurs History. During rookie season

[SpursWoman]

18 points
8 rebounds
3 assists
3 blocks
28 min/gm

I don't know if I see him winning ROY, tbh. I hope he isn't load-managed out of the hunt.

[SpursFan86]

Some people in here setting themselves up to be disappointed…the fact of the matter is that 19 year-old rookies are very rarely huge positive impact players.

There have been two rookies to make the ASG in this millennium: Blake Griffin (21 years old and infamously made it 2 years after being drafted since he missed his true rookie year) and Yao Ming (22 years old and was a cultural phenomenon). Duncan was the last to make all-NBA as a rookie…he was 21 and was far more NBA-ready than Victor as a rookie.

My prediction: 16 and 8 with 3 blocks. I do think he has a shot at making the ASG but it’d likely be more the result of him being the most popular player on the team + no one else on the team being legit all-star caliber as opposed to him dominating the league. I think he’ll be pretty inefficient on offense and will have lots of ugly games due to experimenting with what he can get away with. Defensively, I expect him to make an immediate and noticeable positive impact. Making an all-defensive team would be awesome to see.

Serious question because I’m curious to hear the answers: who are some of the best 18 or 19 year-old rookies we’ve seen, and what did their rookie seasons like?

[Obstructed_View]

DPOY

[Degoat]

16.8 pts/game
8.6 Rbs/game
3.4 A/game
2.7 B/game

[Rocalcio]

32mpg
70 games played

19 ppg on 45% fg%, 33% 3p%, 80% FT
11 rpg
3 assists
3.5 blocks
0.5 steals

spurs end up with a record of 33-49.

Is in the talks for ROY but will ultimately go to Chet for BS reasons.

Goes to the Olympics with a chip on his shoulder, puts up MVP numbers, and carries the French team to the finals to lose to the US in a close game for gold.

You can beat us in the World Cup this year, but we’ll get the gold at home for the Olympics

[cd98]

Wemby will average 12 points, which is great for 19 year old. I’d give him 8 boards and 3-4 blocks. That’s a great stat line for a 19 year old with no NBA experience.

Kobe averaged 7 and Garnett 10. I think 12-14 is a reasonable per game average.

[PhantomDashCam]

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[Vince Carter's ankle]

Wemby will average 12 points, which is great for 19 year old. I’d give him 8 boards and 3-4 blocks. That’s a great stat line for a 19 year old with no NBA experience.

Kobe averaged 7 and Garnett 10. I think 12-14 is a reasonable per game average.
no, it's not
Kobe and Garnett did not play at the pro level, but were drafted after school
in addition, they were not selected with 1 pick
since 2008, only Davis, Bennett and Fultz have scored less than 16 points (Simmons had 15.8)

[Fireball]

32 MPG
17 PPG
9 RPG
3 APG
3.5 BPG
1.5 SPG

[Mr. Body]

no, it's not
Kobe and Garnett did not play at the pro level, but were drafted after school
in addition, they were not selected with 1 pick
since 2008, only Davis, Bennett and Fultz have scored less than 16 points (Simmons had 15.8)

Doncic played professionally and scored 21.2 points per game as a 19 year-old rookie.

[jjspur]

You're pretty close to what I was thinking. I'll say he gets about 14 points per game, about 8 rebounds and 2.5 blocks. A lot of people have him averaging 20 plus points and that's not going to happen unless he gets about 30 minutes per game every game. Pop will not let his new favorite player play that many minutes. Call it load management or fear of him getting injured, I just think they will initially limit his minutes until they are comfortable he can handle it. That will limit his scoring and rebounding and blocks not his lack of skill or experience.

The 24-25 season will be a different story though.

[exstatic]

You're pretty close to what I was thinking. I'll say he gets about 14 points per game, about 8 rebounds and 2.5 blocks. A lot of people have him averaging 20 plus points and that's not going to happen unless he gets about 30 minutes per game every game. Pop will not let his new favorite player play that many minutes. Call it load management or fear of him getting injured, I just think they will initially limit his minutes until they are comfortable he can handle it. That will limit his scoring and rebounding and blocks not his lack of skill or experience.

The 24-25 season will be a different story though.

Will it? He would be coming off a full NBA season, and a summer of Olympic bball. He'll be more rested going into this season than next.

BTW, if anyone isn't picking 20+ ppg, they're doing it wrong. Two things: Doncic saying it's so much easier to score in the NBA, and he's going to get like 8-10 points just on putbacks.

[CorrectCrusader]

Will it? He would be coming off a full NBA season, and a summer of Olympic bball. He'll be more rested going into this season than next.

BTW, if anyone isn't picking 20+ ppg, they're doing it wrong. Two things: Doncic saying it's so much easier to score in the NBA, and he's going to get like 8-10 points just on putbacks.

I agree with this take, and I think Vic is gonna be getting a ton of free throw attempts.

[tesseractive]

6) A huge year for someone else who really capitalizes on Wemby's gravity (how about Tre or Bran)

This. Other players are going to look better playing with Victor.

[itzsoweezee]

Around 5 blks and 20 points. He’s not going to have a bad season. Maybe a bad month, but he’s too skilled and too focused to be bad all year. Look at his body of work over the last year. He ran into some adversity at times, but he always overcame it.

This guy’s going to be really good. I’m excited.

[exstatic]

This. Other players are going to look better playing with Victor.

I fully expect Keldon to return to 40% 3 point shooting. Vassell will probably join that club for the first time, maybe Malaki, too.

[scott]

I fully expect Keldon to return to 40% 3 point shooting. Vassell will probably join that club for the first time, maybe Malaki, too.

I'd be happy with all of them around 38% if it came with some significant volume, which Wemby should facilitate. This year is going to be fun!

[ambchang]

Around 5 blks and 20 points. He’s not going to have a bad season. Maybe a bad month, but he’s too skilled and too focused to be bad all year. Look at his body of work over the last year. He ran into some adversity at times, but he always overcame it.

This guy’s going to be really good. I’m excited.

There was only one time in nba history where some one averaged over 5blks per game and that was eaton with 5.56. Manute Bol came close once with 4.96. No way will wemby average 5 a game in his rookie season in :lol todays nba where there are less blocking opportunities in the paint.

[jjspur]

Will it? He would be coming off a full NBA season, and a summer of Olympic bball. He'll be more rested going into this season than next.

BTW, if anyone isn't picking 20+ ppg, they're doing it wrong. Two things: Doncic saying it's so much easier to score in the NBA, and he's going to get like 8-10 points just on putbacks.

I'm not saying he's incapable of averaging that many points and rebounds, I'm simply saying that he won't average a lot of minutes to do all that. Pop will just be cautious with Wemby's playing time this first year. After Wemby has a year of real NBA experience under his belt, Pop will probably be less restrictive with his minutes, allowing Wemby to score and rebound more. The vast majority of NBA rookies need time to adjust to the level of NBA competition. Wemby may be a generational talent, but even he will need some time to adjust. I fully expect him to be better in his second year.

Everybody calm down, he hasn't played a real NBA game yet, we are all just guessing. After he plays part of the season we'll generally know what he can do this year and then going into next season.

[couchman]

16 pts
8 rb
3 blk

[buttsR4rebounding]

An area I think most people are underestimating is steals and deflections. I have been very impressed by how well he plays bounce passes. His crazy wingspan makes it difficult to throw a bounce pass by him. I expect him to be top 10 in the league in steals and possibly lead it in deflections. I also believe he will lead the Spurs in minutes played. Pop is going to cede to Wemby’s playing time/games played wishes until Wemby shows he can’t handle it.

[Old School 44]

20 pts
12 rbs
4 blks
4 assts
2 stls
30-35 minutes per game
zero load management

[daslicer]

16-10-3

[DPG21920]

I’m going to assume 30-32 MPG

18 points
8 rebounds
3 assists
3 blocks
1 steal
44% FG
30% 3PT
75% FT

If his FG or FT is better then 20 PPG

[Maddog]

16
10
3.5 blocks

[J_Paco]

I think Wemby will have a better rookie season than Olden Polynice and Shawn Bradley.

[The Truth #6]

4 HEB commercials
7 murals across town
1 awkward Ancira Volkswagen commercial

[tonight...you]

4 HEB commercials
7 murals across town
1 awkward Ancira Volkswagen commercial
:lol @ #3.
I can't wait to see that one!

[barakz21]

Was there any recent lottery pick who led their teams to the playoffs during their rookie season? I might be wrong, but pretty sure Melo did (iirc Bron won ROY, and Melo said something like Bron can have ROY, he’ll take the playoffs. I can’t seem to remember if someone after him did it. Or if someone else did it before him.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Was there any recent lottery pick who led their teams to the playoffs during their rookie season? I might be wrong, but pretty sure Melo did (iirc Bron won ROY, and Melo said something like Bron can have ROY, he’ll take the playoffs. I can’t seem to remember if someone after him did it. Or if someone else did it before him.

James Wiseman

[Knoxxx]

28 PPG
12 REB
4 BLK
3 AST

[exstatic]

Was there any recent lottery pick who led their teams to the playoffs during their rookie season? I might be wrong, but pretty sure Melo did (iirc Bron won ROY, and Melo said something like Bron can have ROY, he’ll take the playoffs. I can’t seem to remember if someone after him did it. Or if someone else did it before him.

LeBron/Melo were from the 2003 draft, not exactly recent.

[ambchang]

For reference Lebron, the best teenager who ever played in the nba, averaged 21/5.9/5.5 his rookie season.
Doncic, the best European rookie, averaged 21.2/6/7.8.

I doubt wemby will exceed these numbers in his rookie season. Something like 18/3/8 plus 2 blks would be a smashing success.

[exstatic]

For reference Lebron, the best teenager who ever played in the nba, averaged 21/5.9/5.5 his rookie season.
Doncic, the best European rookie, averaged 21.2/6/7.8.

I doubt wemby will exceed these numbers in his rookie season. Something like 18/3/8 plus 2 blks would be a smashing success.

I would consider 2 blocks a failure, unless he's playing 20 or fewer minutes.

[barakz21]

LeBron/Melo were from the 2003 draft, not exactly recent.

Worded poorly on my part. I meant if there were lottery picks after Melo who did that.

[barakz21]

James Wiseman

Good one

[ambchang]

I would consider 2 blocks a failure, unless he's playing 20 or fewer minutes.

That would rank #6 in the league last season. Man you guys have high expectations.

[exstatic]

That would rank #6 in the league last season. Man you guys have high expectations.

For defense? You bet your ass I do. Shot blocking is going to be what translates immediately.

[SpursBills]

14/6/2 with 2 blocks. 46% from the field, 32% from 3. His impact will most likely be higher than his box score stats.

[Seventyniner]

James Wiseman

#2 pick Darko Milicic won the title as a rookie.

[Knoxxx]

Ya’ll trippin’, Wemby can block jump shots out to the 3 point line he’ll break blocked shot records from the get go.

[slick'81]

For defense? You bet your ass I do. Shot blocking is going to be what translates immediately.


i mean,if hes only getting a block or two a game then something's wrong

[TrainOfThought5]

14/6/2 with 2 blocks. 46% from the field, 32% from 3. His impact will most likely be higher than his box score stats.

he’s gonna get 10 points off of putbacks and offensive rebounds alone.

[Knoxxx]

As much as Wemby figures to touch the ball and have the green light to shoot from anywhere the idea that he would only average 14 PPG seems very far fetched to me.

[Knoxxx]

14/6/2 with 2 blocks. 46% from the field, 32% from 3. His impact will most likely be higher than his box score stats.

I don’t disagree with your guesses on FG% but 6 RPG!?! Come on man!!!

[SpursBills]

I don’t disagree with your guesses on FG% but 6 RPG!?! Come on man!!!

I'm basing my guesses on Porzingis' rookie year - I think he gets similar raw numbers but playing 24 mpg instead of 28 on slightly higher efficiency. The guy averaged 9.5 rpg per 36 minutes for ASVEL last year, so I figured 6 was about right for 24 minutes played. His first couple years in the league I think that he's going to get boxed out constantly and his rebounds per game will be lower than expected. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows

[PrimeMinister]

spurs fans sipping the counter narrative kool aid that is largely rooted in his SL debut a little too hard

he is who we thought he was throughout the season and post draft lottery. easy ROY, DPOY votes. 20+ per game pretty easily. 10+ boards. The future is now.

[LittleCriminal]

League MVP, Offensive and Defensive Player of the Year and Rookie of the year..

[thiste]

I think his rebound average is possibly going to be under 10 which is indeed a weakness given his size. It's a combination of people boxing him out as someone mentioned and also he doesn't seem really interested in it tbh. He seems to favor counter attacks over staying back for a rebound.
Pop is probably gonna set him straight on that though, so we'll see.

As for points, it depends a lot on his minutes but I'm thinking between 18-22, and around 3 blocks.

[rascal]

That would rank #6 in the league last season. Man you guys have high expectations.

Wemby will lead the NBA in blocked shots next year.

[rascal]

I think his rebound average is possibly going to be under 10 which is indeed a weakness given his size. It's a combination of people boxing him out as someone mentioned and also he doesn't seem really interested in it tbh. He seems to favor counter attacks over staying back for a rebound.
Pop is probably gonna set him straight on that though, so we'll see.

As for points, it depends a lot on his minutes but I'm thinking between 18-22, and around 3 blocks.

Agree his rebound numbers aren't going to be anything special.

He's not quick enough and aggressive going for the rebound and can easily get boxed and out muscled.

[JPB]

I'm basing my guesses on Porzingis' rookie year - I think he gets similar raw numbers but playing 24 mpg instead of 28 on slightly higher efficiency. The guy averaged 9.5 rpg per 36 minutes for ASVEL last year, so I figured 6 was about right for 24 minutes played. His first couple years in the league I think that he's going to get boxed out constantly and his rebounds per game will be lower than expected. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows

It was 2 years ago, mate... Wemby played with The "Boulogne-Levallois Metropolitans 92" last season where he averaged 21.6 pts/ 10.4 rbs and 3 blocks a game in 32 min... That's 24.3/11.7/3.4 per 36.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Wemby is going to play 30 minutes per game until he shows he can’t handle it. I believe he’ll average 23/11/4/3.5/1.

[tonight...you]

Wemby is going to play 30 minutes per game until he shows he can’t handle it. I believe he’ll average 23/11/4/3.5/1.
I think bring the boards down to 8.

[Mr. Body]

I feel like everyone watched only his first game in the Summer League and is basing everything off that. Suddenly even Bol Bol is better.

Instead of, like, his second game where he dropped 27 and 12 and 3 blocks while still not having practiced or knowing much of what was going on.

Or how he joined a middling-at-best French League team with mediocre players and pulled them to the league Finals and won pretty much every league award the league had.

This guy ain't Bol Bol. Alright?

[RC_Drunkford]

I'd say 19/7/4

I think he can average 4 blocks per game with ease, but will have to improve his rebounding. He ball watches a lot.

[CorrectCrusader]

22 pts, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks, 5 assists. ROY, All-NBA Defensive Team if not DPOY, 2nd Team All-NBA, All-Star. Spurs win 45+

Not too far off so far. Overestimated the assists but man Wemby is amazing.

[CorrectCrusader]

I'm seeing a lot of nifty passes by Wama turn into .....bricks?

Teams are gonna double him and we need others to step up and make open shots.

Confidence level in that in this point, along with CIA Pop strategies......eeesh.

I gotta see who does or does not joing the roster in these next months.

Wama is gonna kick ass. He might be surrounded by incompetence.

Great prediction.

[CorrectCrusader]

Through 22 games.
https://i.imgur.com/kTct5KA.png

[John B]

Not too far off so far. Overestimated the assists but man Wemby is amazing.

I think the assists will go up some more as Wemby learns to pass off double/triple teams. The amazing part is these are early numbers and will only go higher as Wemby gets accustomed to NBA. :ihit

[thiste]

I think the assists will go up some more as Wemby learns to pass off double/triple teams. The amazing part is these are early numbers and will only go higher as Wemby gets accustomed to NBA. :ihit

I was thinking about this and it's not just about Wemby learning to pass off double teams, he can certainly improve but he knows how to do that already. He's also an above average passer which is logical given he can see the whole court at all times. No, what's keeping him from averaging more assists is simply that he doesn't touch the ball nearly enough.
I can see a future with him becoming a floor general ala Jokic or LeBron, where every single possession the ball passes through him, but he's not there yet.
He's still learning the NBA game and he's often waiting on the side for his teammates to even acknowledge him.
Eventually he'll become that, and I wouldn't be surprised for him to average 6 to 8 assists per game then, on top of everything else (which is mind blowing).

[DAF86]

https://i.imgur.com/kTct5KA.png


Around 20/10/3(blks). Give or take 2pts and 2 rbds. Around 45% from the field.

Talking about spot on.

[spurraider21]

20 ppg on 43% FG (31% 3FG)
8 reb
4 blk
ROY
Spurs record: 36-46

Don't think he's really going to be load managed too much. Might get the occasional rest game but I'm not buying this media hype about Pop sitting him out of back to backs to not even playing him 65 games. I do think he's going to have streaky shooting nights, hence the 43% FG.
pretty good, right down to the FG%

think the blocks can get there if he keeps playing the 5

[baseline bum]

pretty good, right down to the FG%

think the blocks can get there if he keeps playing the 5

Had no idea Chet was going to be this good though, so Vic's in a real battle for ROY. Don't get me wrong, I expected big things from Holmgren after watching the summer league, but Chet's playing the best basketball I have ever seen out of him.

[Sugus]

Had no idea Chet was going to be this good though, so Vic's in a real battle for ROY. Don't get me wrong, I expected big things from Holmgren after watching the summer league, but Chet's playing the best basketball I have ever seen out of him.

Chet is a menace, and tbh the entire OKC team is. I'm crossing my fingers for a Harden-level fuck up from their FO, because that seems like the only thing stopping them from perennial contention.

It's not even Chet I'm most concerned about, but Shai. He's so fucking good it's unfair. We could tank for 5 years and still not come out with a player of his calibre to pair Wemby with.

[baseline bum]

Chet is a menace, and tbh the entire OKC team is. I'm crossing my fingers for a Harden-level fuck up from their FO, because that seems like the only thing stopping them from perennial contention.

It's not even Chet I'm most concerned about, but Shai. He's so fucking good it's unfair. We could tank for 5 years and still not come out with a player of his calibre to pair Wemby with.

Honestly think Chet is going to be the best player on that team in 2-3 years and it's not even going to be particularly close. Hope the NBA expands to Vegas and Seattle soon so the Spurs can go back to the EC tbh. :lol

[spurraider21]

Honestly think Chet is going to be the best player on that team in 2-3 years and it's not even going to be particularly close. Hope the NBA expands to Vegas and Seattle soon so the Spurs can go back to the EC tbh. :lol
no reason chet cant have dirk's iso game tbh

in addition to his top tier defense

[DAF86]

pretty good, right down to the FG%

think the blocks can get there if he keeps playing the 5

The Spurs winning 36 is pretty laughable in retrospect, tbh. :lol :depressed

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I wonder if he'll be the first ROY on a team that won half as many games as the year before? Shaping up that way. His numbers as a center might be hard for voters to pass on.

[TD 21]

Honestly think Chet is going to be the best player on that team in 2-3 years and it's not even going to be particularly close. Hope the NBA expands to Vegas and Seattle soon so the Spurs can go back to the EC tbh. :lol

Then you think Holmgren is going to be an MVP favorite, because Gilgeous-Alexander is a top 5 player right now.

[baseline bum]

Then you think Holmgren is going to be an MVP favorite, because Gilgeous-Alexander is a top 5 player right now.

I do. Holmgren is such a versatile two way player with a smooth stroke.

[TD 21]

I do. Holmgren is such a versatile two way player with a smooth stroke.

But will he be a go-to scorer to the degree (volume + efficiency) you generally need to be to become top 3?

[Obstructed_View]

I was thinking about this and it's not just about Wemby learning to pass off double teams, he can certainly improve but he knows how to do that already. He's also an above average passer which is logical given he can see the whole court at all times. No, what's keeping him from averaging more assists is simply that he doesn't touch the ball nearly enough.
I can see a future with him becoming a floor general ala Jokic or LeBron, where every single possession the ball passes through him, but he's not there yet.
He's still learning the NBA game and he's often waiting on the side for his teammates to even acknowledge him.
Eventually he'll become that, and I wouldn't be surprised for him to average 6 to 8 assists per game then, on top of everything else (which is mind blowing).

Agree. He needs to touch the ball on way more possessions.

[manufan10]

18/9/3.5

Rookie of the year

21.4/10.6/3.6

[scott]

22 pts, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks, 5 assists. ROY, All-NBA Defensive Team if not DPOY, 2nd Team All-NBA, All-Star. Spurs win 45+


Around 20/10/3(blks). Give or take 2pts and 2 rbds. Around 45% from the field.


20 ppg on 43% FG (31% 3FG)
8 reb
4 blk
ROY
Spurs record: 36-46

Don't think he's really going to be load managed too much. Might get the occasional rest game but I'm not buying this media hype about Pop sitting him out of back to backs to not even playing him 65 games. I do think he's going to have streaky shooting nights, hence the 43% FG.

Some folks on the first page who were relatively close... gonna go page by page here at quote all those who got close.

[scott]

22 pts, 12 rebounds, 3 blocks, 5 assists. ROY, All-NBA Defensive Team if not DPOY, 2nd Team All-NBA, All-Star. Spurs win 45+


Around 20/10/3(blks). Give or take 2pts and 2 rbds. Around 45% from the field.


20 ppg on 43% FG (31% 3FG)
8 reb
4 blk
ROY
Spurs record: 36-46

Don't think he's really going to be load managed too much. Might get the occasional rest game but I'm not buying this media hype about Pop sitting him out of back to backs to not even playing him 65 games. I do think he's going to have streaky shooting nights, hence the 43% FG.


I think Wemby will:

1) Play more than people think (in MPG and # of games)
2) Less ppg than people think (I'll say 17-18ppg)
3) More rebounds than guesses so far (11-12 rpg)
4) A bpg stat that is eye popping in the modern era (I'll go 3.5 bpg)
5) A surprising assist stat line (5 apg)
6) A huge year for someone else who really capitalizes on Wemby's gravity (how about Tre or Bran)


32mpg
70 games played

19 ppg on 45% fg%, 33% 3p%, 80% FT
11 rpg
3 assists
3.5 blocks
0.5 steals

spurs end up with a record of 33-49.

Is in the talks for ROY but will ultimately go to Chet for BS reasons.

Goes to the Olympics with a chip on his shoulder, puts up MVP numbers, and carries the French team to the finals to lose to the US in a close game for gold.


27.5 mpg
21 ppg
10 rpg
4 blk
3.5 assist
77%ft
47%fg
3point%32


70+ games
30+ mpg
23 ppg
10 rpg
4 ast
3 blk
48 fg%
36 3p%
85 ft%
all star
roy
3rd all-nba team
2nd all-defensive team


20 pts
12 rbs
4 blks
4 assts
2 stls
30-35 minutes per game
zero load management

Didn't realize I didn't have to go page by page

[MultiTroll]

I'm seeing a lot of nifty passes by Wama turn into .....bricks?

Teams are gonna double him and we need others to step up and make open shots.

Confidence level in that in this point, along with CIA Pop strategies......eeesh.

I gotta see who does or does not joing the roster in these next months.

Wama is gonna kick ass. He might be surrounded by incompetence.
This Fabbs guy really knows his chit.

[CorrectCrusader]

Wemby is him :bobo
What a season

[John B]

Some folks on the first page who were relatively close... gonna go page by page here at quote all those who got close.

I missed that All-Star (which Wemby should’ve been) and the Spurs winning 45+ wins (I still think they tanked most of the season) if they played the right roster.

[TrainOfThought5]

He’s going to struggle early. Like 15 ppg and 7 rebounds per game. His efficiency isn’t going to be great either at like 45%. Pop is going to hold him back. His teammates are going to ice him out (not bc they’re bad people but bc they don’t know what it’s like to actually have a franchise player who should get the ball.) KJ and Vassell will be outshooting him. KJ at 17 shots a game and Vassell at 16. While Wemby will be at like 14.

second half of the season Pop is going to actually start treating him like a fucking franchise player and his stats are gonna skyrocket 22 and 10. He’s going to know his spots, teammates are gonna pass him the ball or they won’t play. Pop is going to go ballistic at Kj and bench him. Tre Jones might actually learn how to play pic n roll effectively and maybe just maybe he will hit his wide ass open 3 point shots. and the whole team is going to learn how to throw a fucking lob pass but most effective will be Sochan. And Victor will shine and win ROY


not too shabby.

[baseline bum]

Some folks on the first page who were relatively close... gonna go page by page here at quote all those who got close.

I was really expecting 23-24 Wemby to play like 23 Wemby when instead 24 Wemby played like I was expecting out of 24-25 Wemby. Glad to see the shooting percentage went up significantly in the second half of the season and the TO went down until the last ten games or so of the season.