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MultiTroll
07-25-2023, 10:22 AM
Bronny James suffers cardiac arrest, collapses on USC court: LeBron James' son now in stable condition - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bronny-james-suffers-cardiac-arrest-collapses-on-usc-court-lebron-james-son-now-in-stable-condition/)
MultiTroll
07-25-2023, 10:28 AM
2 years ago another USC player....
USC five-star freshman Vince Iwuchukwu sidelined indefinitely after suffering cardiac arrest this summer - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/usc-five-star-freshman-vince-iwuchukwu-sidelined-indefinitely-after-suffering-cardiac-arrest-this-summer/)
BatManu20
07-25-2023, 10:35 AM
Glad he’s alright. Will be interested to see what caused it. Hopefully he doesn’t have a serious heart defect that ends his career before it even begins tbh.
couchman
07-25-2023, 10:36 AM
Horrible news. Prayers to Bronny for a speedy and complete recovery
MultiTroll
07-25-2023, 10:38 AM
:wow Here's a 3rd college hooper that fairly recently had cardiac arrest:
In December 2020, Florida's (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/FLA/florida-gators/) Keyontae Johnson (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/players/3041881/keyontae-johnson/) collapsed on the court during a timeout in the Gators' game at Florida State (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/FSU/florida-state-seminoles/). Johnson was evaluated by heart specialists from myriad universities for months and eventually cleared for light workouts, but he was never approved by Florida to return to competition at UF. Johnson graduated from Florida and will play this season as a grad transfer at Kansas State (https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/teams/KSTATE/kansas-state-wildcats/).
Seventyniner
07-25-2023, 10:41 AM
Glad he’s alright. Will be interested to see what caused it. Hopefully he doesn’t have a serious heart defect that ends his career before it even begins tbh.
Agreed. We have already seen similar scares with Aldridge and Bosh.
There was a Texas high school football player a while back who collapsed on the sideline during a game and died a couple hours later due to a heart defect nobody knew he had. The doctor later said that if he knew that player had that condition, he never would have allowed the player to play competitive sports at all.
CorrectCrusader
07-25-2023, 10:44 AM
Terrible. Glad he's okay
baseline bum
07-25-2023, 10:44 AM
Damn, hope Bronny comes out of this ok. Was scary to read the headline before finding out he's in stable condition.
baseline bum
07-25-2023, 10:45 AM
Glad he’s alright. Will be interested to see what caused it. Hopefully he doesn’t have a serious heart defect that ends his career before it even begins tbh.
Fuck no one wants to see another Reggie Lewis or Hank Gathers situation. Really sucks for Bronny, as he seemed to be NBA level talent.
tbdog
07-25-2023, 11:12 AM
On a basketball level, it'll be interesting if LeBron calls quits to be with his son. Heart issues don't usually fix themselves.
Donald Sterling.
07-25-2023, 01:01 PM
Imagine being quadruple vaxxed. It couldn't be me.
Trust the science.
On a basketball level, it'll be interesting if LeBron calls quits to be with his son. Heart issues don't usually fix themselves.
Well known that one of LeBron's motivating factors to keep playing is to play with his son one day.
If it turns out Bronny can't make the NBA, could definitely shift his timeline.
Mugen
07-25-2023, 02:03 PM
I mean the kid has to have some type of underlying heart issue that went undiagnosed. Long term basketball outlook can wait, just happy the kid is alive. Scary af tbh.
BacktoBasics
07-25-2023, 02:51 PM
Imagine being quadruple vaxxed. It couldn't be me.
Trust the science.
I knew it wouldn’t take long for one of you domestic terrorists to show up spouting propaganda.
exstatic
07-25-2023, 02:59 PM
I mean the kid has to have some type of underlying heart issue that went undiagnosed. Long term basketball outlook can wait, just happy the kid is alive. Scary af tbh.
Yeah, when an 18 YO goes into cardiac arrest, it's never good or even remotely normal.
BacktoBasics
07-25-2023, 03:19 PM
Yeah, when an 18 YO goes into cardiac arrest, it's never good or even remotely normal.
I’d wait for a more official statement. “Cardiac arrest” might just be the term the media is tossing around. Could be something like AFIB or even an allergic reaction from a supplement or med. They may never release that info though.
I knew it wouldn’t take long for one of you domestic terrorists to show up spouting propaganda.
like fucking roaches, just come out of the woodwork.
OldMan88
07-25-2023, 04:23 PM
I knew it wouldn’t take long for one of you domestic terrorists to show up spouting propaganda.
Domestic Terrorist? Propaganda? NIH has published some studies on this, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/. So it seems to be a real issue that needs further study. Screaming from the cheap seats from either the left or the right isn’t helpful. My thinking on it is I don’t know… one way or the other, but that some serious studies (not conducted by the pharmaceutical industry) need to be studied. There’s been way too many cases of young, almost exclusively men, developing heart problems, or just dropping dead for no apparent reason and we need to get to the bottom of it fast.
BacktoBasics
07-25-2023, 04:42 PM
Domestic Terrorist? Propaganda? NIH has published some studies on this, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/. So it seems to be a real issue that needs further study. Screaming from the cheap seats from either the left or the right isn’t helpful. My thinking on it is I don’t know… one way or the other, but that some serious studies (not conducted by the pharmaceutical industry) need to be studied. There’s been way too many cases of young, almost exclusively men, developing heart problems, or just dropping dead for no apparent reason and we need to get to the bottom of it fast.
You’re right you don’t know. What I know is that reference and many like it including the bs propaganda spewed by media heads and dicktards on this forum leans on Vaers reporting. Which is an unverified reporting system that includes any and all health related events after vaccination. Including coincidental events.
I’ll copy the pertinent part here so you can understand.
“doctors and other vaccine providers are encouraged to report all adverse events following vaccinations, whether or not they believe that the vaccination was the cause.”
Furthermore
“When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause and effect relationship has been established. VAERS is interested in all potential associations between vaccines and adverse events. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”
So the very basis for this belief is rooted in misinformation.
Let me repeat the important part. “The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.”.
I have no issue with referencing studies etc. but data collection from a source that specifically states that it includes any all events whether coincidental or not isn’t going to cut it.
picnroll
07-25-2023, 04:44 PM
Imagine being quadruple vaxxed. It couldn't be me.
Trust the science.
Far more likely something like cardiac hypertrophy or Wolf- Parkinson-White syndrome but anti-vacciners love there anti-vac stories.
Gibbz
07-25-2023, 04:44 PM
Domestic Terrorist? Propaganda? NIH has published some studies on this, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/. So it seems to be a real issue that needs further study. Screaming from the cheap seats from either the left or the right isn’t helpful. My thinking on it is I don’t know… one way or the other, but that some serious studies (not conducted by the pharmaceutical industry) need to be studied. There’s been way too many cases of young, almost exclusively men, developing heart problems, or just dropping dead for no apparent reason and we need to get to the bottom of it fast.
Occurrence of myocarditis is seven times more likely from COVID-19 than vaccine injury side effects: https://www.psu.edu/news/research/story/myocarditis-seven-times-more-likely-covid-19-vaccines/
Hope it isn't a congenital heart condition. I remember when Reggie Lewis was diagnosed with a congenital heart condition. He had to quit basketball. Then, after sitting a bit, he wanted to make a comeback. So he started practicing and training, and tragically, he had a heart attack on the practice court and passed away. Scary stuff for an athlete that is used to being able to do amazing things.
Domestic Terrorist? Propaganda? NIH has published some studies on this, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/. So it seems to be a real issue that needs further study. Screaming from the cheap seats from either the left or the right isn’t helpful. My thinking on it is I don’t know… one way or the other, but that some serious studies (not conducted by the pharmaceutical industry) need to be studied. There’s been way too many cases of young, almost exclusively men, developing heart problems, or just dropping dead for no apparent reason and we need to get to the bottom of it fast.
Basketball players developing heart irregularities and suffering heart attacks while in their prime shape predates COVID vaccines. It's not so common to a high percentage of players, but guys like Hank Gathers and Reggie Lewis have died on basketball courts from irregular heart beats and other players have retired because of it, most recently, it impacted LaMarcus Aldridge several times during his career and all those predate COVID.
Barfunk
07-25-2023, 05:25 PM
Get well soon.
ducks
07-25-2023, 06:13 PM
Did he take the Covid shot
Asking for a friend
ducks
07-25-2023, 06:15 PM
On a basketball level, it'll be interesting if LeBron calls quits to be with his son. Heart issues don't usually fix themselves.
Doubt it
Pop did not to be with his sick wife
He should retire and spend it with his son.
ducks
07-25-2023, 06:17 PM
Imagine being quadruple vaxxed. It couldn't be me.
Trust the science.
I trust science
I do not trust some scientist
BacktoBasics
07-25-2023, 06:46 PM
Did he take the Covid shot
Asking for a friend
I knew this racist boomer would be here.
BacktoBasics
07-25-2023, 06:49 PM
I trust science
I do not trust some scientist
Funny, you couldn’t recognize science when it baked chlamydia around your vagina.
offset formation
07-25-2023, 07:59 PM
Domestic Terrorist? Propaganda? NIH has published some studies on this, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/. So it seems to be a real issue that needs further study. Screaming from the cheap seats from either the left or the right isn’t helpful. My thinking on it is I don’t know… one way or the other, but that some serious studies (not conducted by the pharmaceutical industry) need to be studied. There’s been way too many cases of young, almost exclusively men, developing heart problems, or just dropping dead for no apparent reason and we need to get to the bottom of it fast.
The link is to COVID itself, the actual virus which produces myocarditis at a higher rate than the Vax did.
You hear the news that Republicans died at a rate 43% higher than the rest of Americans? That's due to COVID.
Obstructed_View
07-25-2023, 09:11 PM
Healthy young men have had their heart stop randomly forever. And fuck your racist ass for even trying to discuss it.
XenoThirteen
07-25-2023, 09:18 PM
Domestic Terrorist? Propaganda? NIH has published some studies on this, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/. So it seems to be a real issue that needs further study. Screaming from the cheap seats from either the left or the right isn’t helpful. My thinking on it is I don’t know… one way or the other, but that some serious studies (not conducted by the pharmaceutical industry) need to be studied. There’s been way too many cases of young, almost exclusively men, developing heart problems, or just dropping dead for no apparent reason and we need to get to the bottom of it fast.
Not all chest pains are the same. I mean, 100% of people who ever died has taken water at some point of their lives, surely water is dangerous!
Correlation does not equal causation. The study above are a study of anecdotal case reports that don’t prove anything. Your population is a whopping 26 that are, by all accounts, filled with uncontrollable confounders.
ambchang
07-25-2023, 09:27 PM
Healthy young men have had their heart stop randomly forever. And fuck your racist ass for even trying to discuss it.
No way. I thought every single person lived to be 105 years old pre-vaccines.
CorrectCrusader
07-25-2023, 09:52 PM
The link is to COVID itself, the actual virus which produces myocarditis at a higher rate than the Vax did.
You hear the news that Republicans died at a rate 43% higher than the rest of Americans? That's due to COVID.
I think that has more to do with Republicans being fat and old geezers to be honest :tongue
scott
07-25-2023, 09:53 PM
Hope he's alright. Seems like a good kid.
wonder if it's the same as LMA. LMA obv came back, basketball isn't anti heart but over exertion is. i don't think this really stops bronny from NBA, he was always going to be a legacy fringe prospect.
exstatic
07-25-2023, 10:10 PM
wonder if it's the same as LMA. LMA obv came back, basketball isn't anti heart but over exertion is. i don't think this really stops bronny from NBA, he was always going to be a legacy fringe prospect.
LMA had arrhythmia. That’s an occasional irregular heartbeat. Bronnys’s heart stopped, acvrding to reports. That’s what cardiac arrest means.
offset formation
07-25-2023, 11:07 PM
LMA had arrhythmia. That’s an occasional irregular heartbeat. Bronnys’s heart stopped, acvrding to reports. That’s what cardiac arrest means.
Right but arrhythmia can be one of the underlying causes of cardiac arrest. In fact, that was one of the stated reasons from LMA as to why he retired because risk of sudden death
DAF86
07-25-2023, 11:39 PM
No reason to risk sudden death by forcing a basketball career. It sucks but health should be priority #1. If I'm the Lakers, I'm offering him some kind of job in the organization.
daslicer
07-26-2023, 12:04 AM
No reason to risk sudden death by forcing a basketball career. It sucks but health should be priority #1. If I'm the Lakers, I'm offering him some kind of job in the organization.
Agreed. He's also in a better position than 99 percent of the guys trying to get into the league in the sense his dad already has generational wealth. That in itself relieves him of the pressure of having to make it to the NBA. He may not have a basketball career after this but due to Lebron's wealth and status he's in a privileged position that he can pursue any career and will get opportunities very few can get.
spurraider21
07-26-2023, 12:17 AM
No reason to risk sudden death by forcing a basketball career. It sucks but health should be priority #1. If I'm the Lakers, I'm offering him some kind of job in the organization.
Helicopter pilot
DAF86
07-26-2023, 12:52 AM
Helicopter pilot
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Obstructed_View
07-26-2023, 04:28 AM
No way. I thought every single person lived to be 105 years old pre-vaccines.
Baaa
cutewizard
07-26-2023, 04:59 AM
Journey well
BacktoBasics
07-26-2023, 08:49 AM
Right but arrhythmia can be one of the underlying causes of cardiac arrest. In fact, that was one of the stated reasons from LMA as to why he retired because risk of sudden death
Certain arrhythmia's can be controlled with BP meds and a heart rhythm med. In some cases it can be controlled or mitigated with a pacemaker or defibrillator. That may or may not be problematic in the NBA.
Tyronn Lue
07-26-2023, 09:38 AM
Doubt it
Pop did not to be with his sick wife
He should retire and spend it with his son.
that's ironic
no way this kid plays after this. Stay at USC get an education. Have fun in school. Forget about the money. Dad has all he needs.
daslicer
07-27-2023, 11:22 AM
no way this kid plays after this. Stay at USC get an education. Have fun in school. Forget about the money. Dad has all he needs.
Agreed. He's privileged so he can really enjoy college life knowing he doesn't have to take any student loans and can major in whatever he's truly interested in knowing Lebron's connections can open career paths in any industry he wants to pursue.
Ice009
07-27-2023, 08:47 PM
Darn, tough spot to be in. If he truly loves the game, he still might want to play. He doesn't have to play, so that makes it a tougher decision.
exstatic
07-27-2023, 08:57 PM
Darn, tough spot to be in. If he truly loves the game, he still might want to play. He doesn't have to play, so that makes it a tougher decision.
He can’t be allowed to play. He’ll wind up like Hank Gathers or Reggie Williams, dead in his 20s. He can’t even play pickup.
He can’t be allowed to play. He’ll wind up like Hank Gathers or Reggie Williams, dead in his 20s. He can’t even play pickup.
what the hell? did they disclose the injury? they can thin his blood, and other meds. but no doctor will say "stop exercise it's bad for your heart"
if sheadon sharpe can get drafted in the top lottery despite not playing for a year then bronny can get a camp invite, and with bron as his dad no team is going to force him to play more than he wants.
exstatic
07-27-2023, 09:38 PM
what the hell? did they disclose the injury? they can thin his blood, and other meds. but no doctor will say "stop exercise it's bad for your heart"
if sheadon sharpe can get drafted in the top lottery despite not playing for a year then bronny can get a camp invite, and with bron as his dad no team is going to force him to play more than he wants.
You can’t play professional sports on blood thinners. It’s what forced Bosh into retirement
There are no minor heart conditions that cause full cardiac arrest. You can’t just try it and see how it goes. He could die like Reggie Lewis, in a pick up game. He is undraftable and unplayable in the NBA.
Obstructed_View
07-27-2023, 09:46 PM
He can’t be allowed to play. He’ll wind up like Hank Gathers or Reggie Williams, dead in his 20s. He can’t even play pickup.
Lewis.
mookie2001
07-27-2023, 09:53 PM
Maybe he can contact the Make A Wish foundation if he really wants to play with his daddy in the NBA.
baseline bum
07-27-2023, 10:46 PM
You can’t play professional sports on blood thinners. It’s what forced Bosh into retirement
There are no minor heart conditions that cause full cardiac arrest. You can’t just try it and see how it goes. He could die like Reggie Lewis, in a pick up game. He is undraftable and unplayable in the NBA.
Sad as hell, but a lot less than it could have been. Was really looking forward to seeing Bronny at SC too.
BacktoBasics
07-28-2023, 09:14 AM
You can’t play professional sports on blood thinners. It’s what forced Bosh into retirement
There are no minor heart conditions that cause full cardiac arrest. You can’t just try it and see how it goes. He could die like Reggie Lewis, in a pick up game. He is undraftable and unplayable in the NBA.
I don't know the specifics of the Bosh situation but you can absolutely play pick up games on blood thinners. I do it regularly and I have a congenital heart defect. I'm on no restrictions.
There are arguably minor heart conditions that can cause cardiac arrest. Lets say AFIB indirectly causes other problems for example. AFIB itself doesn't cause cardiac arrest but could potentially exacerbate other problems. An ablation would solve that. Tachycardia can be addressed in a lot of ways and doesn't always mean that the person needs to be on blood thinners.
MultiTroll
08-03-2023, 02:45 PM
The key, according to cardiologist Richard Kovacs, is getting the right diagnosis. After all, plenty of players had similar cardiovascular problems but went on to play.
“The key for Bronny’s future, in my opinion, is that they get the diagnosis right — and that’s not easy,” Kovacs said. “It takes a careful assessment by a team of cardiologists who are familiar with looking at diseased hearts and elite athlete hearts.”
The best-case scenario for Bronny James after suffering cardiac arrest, per cardiologist (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/the-best-case-scenario-for-bronny-james-after-suffering-cardiac-arrest-per-cardiologist/ar-AA1eK7l3?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=abb6d9a8cd5c419297749ed20509ea64&ei=36)
exstatic
08-03-2023, 05:17 PM
The key, according to cardiologist Richard Kovacs, is getting the right diagnosis. After all, plenty of players had similar cardiovascular problems but went on to play.“The key for Bronny’s future, in my opinion, is that they get the diagnosis right — and that’s not easy,” Kovacs said. “It takes a careful assessment by a team of cardiologists who are familiar with looking at diseased hearts and elite athlete hearts.”
That kind of Dr. shopping is what got Reggie Lewis dead. He got cleared to play the next season, and dropped dead playing pickup.
BacktoBasics
08-03-2023, 05:57 PM
That kind of Dr. shopping is what got Reggie Lewis dead. He got cleared to play the next season, and dropped dead playing pickup.
I don’t believe they’ll doctor shop. They’re not just millionaires. There in a whole different category of wealth. I’m sure they’ve long had a connoisseur cardiologist on tap as well as other specialists. They have the worlds best care available to them.
exstatic
08-03-2023, 07:20 PM
I don’t believe they’ll doctor shop. They’re not just millionaires. There in a whole different category of wealth. I’m sure they’ve long had a connoisseur cardiologist on tap as well as other specialists. They have the worlds best care available to them.
If you’re looking for a doctor to give you a diagnosis to your liking, you’re doctor shopping. Bronny doesn’t need to be in the NBA to bring generational wealth to his family like most draft prospects. They already have it. LeBron should place him in Klutch to be the eventual replacement for Maverick Carter.
MultiTroll
08-03-2023, 08:25 PM
That kind of Dr. shopping is what got Reggie Lewis dead. He got cleared to play the next season, and dropped dead playing pickup.
Where in the article and Dr. Kovacs statement is even an iota of suggestion to "Dr Shopping"?
BacktoBasics
08-03-2023, 08:57 PM
If you’re looking for a doctor to give you a diagnosis to your liking, you’re doctor shopping. Bronny doesn’t need to be in the NBA to bring generational wealth to his family like most draft prospects. They already have it. LeBron should place him in Klutch to be the eventual replacement for Maverick Carter.
That’s just one guys opinion. There’s nothing factual about it. I have no reason to believe that they’ll risk his life doctor shopping.
mookie2001
08-03-2023, 09:19 PM
New worst thread in spurs forum history.
Obstructed_View
08-03-2023, 10:32 PM
Reggie Lewis died from cocaine, just like Len Bias did. Hank Gathers had a heart defect and stopped taking his meds because it made him sluggish. Bronny was screened and cleared for heart problems earlier this year. Do the math.
He isn't a good enough prospect to worry about. I hope
He lives a good life. But he won't fill his dads shoes.
Reggie Lewis died from cocaine, just like Len Bias did. Hank Gathers had a heart defect and stopped taking his meds because it made him sluggish. Bronny was screened and cleared for heart problems earlier this year. Do the math.
Neither Lewis or Bias died from cocaine. Lewis had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a structural heart defect, that is the number one cause of young athletes sudden deaths. No one or no report ever mentions cocaine.
Stop eating any fake news or conspiracy passing by.
Obstructed_View
08-04-2023, 07:13 AM
Neither Lewis or Bias died from cocaine. Lewis had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a structural heart defect, that is the number one cause of young athletes sudden deaths. No one or no report ever mentions cocaine.
Stop eating any fake news or conspiracy passing by.
There was a documentary about Bias where his friends and family talk about him doing cocaine the night he died. The first paragraph of his wikipedia page mentions it.
When Lewis died, the doctors thought it was drug related, and his family sued anyone and everyone to shut them up. Regardless, if it was HCM, it was diagnosed before he died. Bronny had a clean bill of health when his heart stopped.
BacktoBasics
08-04-2023, 08:18 AM
I don't know about Lewis but Bias had a extensive history of cocaine use.
Obstructed_View
08-04-2023, 08:47 AM
I don't know about Lewis but Bias had a extensive history of cocaine use.
You sure? I seem to remember that he was talked into doing it the night he died, and it was the only time he did it. I could be wrong on that point, however. I'll try to find the documentary.
couchman
08-04-2023, 09:20 AM
Christian Eriksson had a cardiac arrest on the field a few years ago and has since returned to playing soccer for Manchester United. It can be done.
MultiTroll
08-04-2023, 09:39 AM
Damar Hamlin back at Buffalo Bills practice.
Shudders.
Is Damar Hamlin practicing? Update on Buffalo Bills player since cardiac arrest - ABC13 Houston (https://abc13.com/news-about-damar-hamlin-condition-cardiac-arrest-buffalo-bills/13577621/)
MultiTroll
08-04-2023, 09:57 AM
Neither Lewis or Bias died from cocaine. Lewis had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a structural heart defect, that is the number one cause of young athletes sudden deaths. No one or no report ever mentions cocaine.
Stop eating any fake news or conspiracy passing by.
Maryland chief medical examiner Dr. John E. Smialek announced that per the Boston Celtics draftee's autopsy, he died of cocaine intoxication
Read More: https://www.grunge.com/840759/disturbing-details-found-in-len-bias-autopsy-report/
You think this was a fake proclamation by the Dr?
Disturbing Details Found In Len Bias' Autopsy Report (grunge.com) (https://www.grunge.com/840759/disturbing-details-found-in-len-bias-autopsy-report/)
MultiTroll
08-04-2023, 09:59 AM
Sad as hell, but a lot less than it could have been. Was really looking forward to seeing Bronny at SC too.
Ya i wanted to see what he would develop into. Even if ceiling was NBA bench player. And I'm not limiting Bronny to that ceiling.
Still think Bronny + vet minimum Lebron in 25 may have been a score for some team.
Maryland chief medical examiner Dr. John E. Smialek announced that per the Boston Celtics draftee's autopsy, he died of cocaine intoxication
Read More: https://www.grunge.com/840759/disturbing-details-found-in-len-bias-autopsy-report/
You think this was a fake proclamation by the Dr?
Disturbing Details Found In Len Bias' Autopsy Report (grunge.com) (https://www.grunge.com/840759/disturbing-details-found-in-len-bias-autopsy-report/)
I had it wrong abour Bias but Lewis didn't, that's "allegations". the autopsy report said differently.
Obstructed_View
08-05-2023, 11:47 AM
I had it wrong abour Bias but Lewis didn't, that's "allegations". the autopsy report said differently.
Either he did coke or stopped taking his meds or both. Young healthy athletes collapsing is new, but addressing it is somehow a political position.
BacktoBasics
08-05-2023, 12:53 PM
Either he did coke or stopped taking his meds or both. Young healthy athletes collapsing is new, but addressing it is somehow a political position.
It’s not new. It’s not common but it’s not exactly nonexistent. It’s political because one particular group is pushing lies around the vaccine and the idea that young healthy athletes are all of a sudden collapsing out of nowhere when the reality is that cardiac events aren’t disproportionately higher than normal.
Reporting and medical care is far greater than 30 or 40 years ago. Just like anything you’re going to see more thorough statistical analysis the further you get away from the past. Including statistics on homeless people or Jane/John Doe’s which used to be virtually nonexistent.
Obstructed_View
08-05-2023, 02:37 PM
It’s not new. It’s not common but it’s not exactly nonexistent. It’s political because one particular group is pushing lies around the vaccine and the idea that young healthy athletes are all of a sudden collapsing out of nowhere when the reality is that cardiac events aren’t disproportionately higher than normal.
Reporting and medical care is far greater than 30 or 40 years ago. Just like anything you’re going to see more thorough statistical analysis the further you get away from the past. Including statistics on homeless people or Jane/John Doe’s which used to be virtually nonexistent.
Damn that one particular group for noticing things. They should be silenced.
BacktoBasics
08-05-2023, 02:50 PM
Damn that one particular group for noticing things. They should be silenced.
They didn’t notice something. They parroted misinformation because the perception was that in doing so it would attack or damage liberalism. It was never about facts or truths. It was about discrediting a vaccine that was looked upon by far right extremists as a liberal cause. Some of it is simply conservative buzzwords or slogans.
Notice how you didn’t address any of the points I brought forth. The discussion really isn’t the point… spreading the misinformation to attack a group viewed as the enemy is the motive.
It’s why so few far right conservatives engage in statistical debates or discussion over studies. They’ll copy and paste from bitchute or revoked doctors and cry about conspiracies.
The irony in you claiming young athletes collapsing was “new” while actively engaging a discussion about two players that collapsed decades ago.
BacktoBasics
08-05-2023, 02:52 PM
Damn that one particular group for noticing things. They should be silenced.
For the record I’m traditionally a voting conservative but the current group of so-called conservatives is an embarrassment and far cry from what the party used to stand for.
koriwhat
08-05-2023, 03:40 PM
That incident might have curbed Bronny's career altogether. Not that he's anything close to his father but still very sad for a young dude let alone a young dude who's is a hell of an athlete and who had a bright future possibly in the NBA.
Obstructed_View
08-05-2023, 03:46 PM
They didn’t notice something. They parroted misinformation because the perception was that in doing so it would attack or damage liberalism. It was never about facts or truths. It was about discrediting a vaccine that was looked upon by far right extremists as a liberal cause. Some of it is simply conservative buzzwords or slogans.
Notice how you didn’t address any of the points I brought forth. The discussion really isn’t the point… spreading the misinformation to attack a group viewed as the enemy is the motive.
It’s why so few far right conservatives engage in statistical debates or discussion over studies. They’ll copy and paste from bitchute or revoked doctors and cry about conspiracies.
The irony in you claiming young athletes collapsing was “new” while actively engaging a discussion about two players that collapsed decades ago.
LMAO. I'm not addressing your points because you're some random retard on a basketball forum barking talking points at me. I don't want to have to teach you anything when you try to tell me the dozens of young people dropping dead the last two years is nothing new. You don't have the goddamn sense to discuss it rationally.
The reason there is a discussion about Bias and Lewis and Gathers is because BB brought it up. Then someone suggested the vaccine and in the spirit of honest debate, you called them a domestic terrorist.
GAustex
08-05-2023, 03:50 PM
Do steroids affect the heart negatively?
koriwhat
08-05-2023, 03:52 PM
Do steroids affect the heart negatively?
Yes.
koriwhat
08-05-2023, 03:54 PM
They didn’t notice something. They parroted misinformation because the perception was that in doing so it would attack or damage liberalism. It was never about facts or truths. It was about discrediting a vaccine that was looked upon by far right extremists as a liberal cause. Some of it is simply conservative buzzwords or slogans.
Notice how you didn’t address any of the points I brought forth. The discussion really isn’t the point… spreading the misinformation to attack a group viewed as the enemy is the motive.
It’s why so few far right conservatives engage in statistical debates or discussion over studies. They’ll copy and paste from bitchute or revoked doctors and cry about conspiracies.
The irony in you claiming young athletes collapsing was “new” while actively engaging a discussion about two players that collapsed decades ago.
LMFAO:lmao (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/05/kamala-harris-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-409320)
GAustex
08-05-2023, 03:54 PM
Just wondering
Oh has not Bron Bron been accused of steroid use?
koriwhat
08-05-2023, 03:56 PM
Just wondering
Oh has not Bron Bron been accused of steroid use?
I have no clue about that tbh. It's just such a pity for such a young dude like Bronny and his whole family too.
BacktoBasics
08-05-2023, 04:11 PM
LMAO. I'm not addressing your points because you're some random retard on a basketball forum barking talking points at me. I don't want to have to teach you anything when you try to tell me the dozens of young people dropping dead the last two years is nothing new. You don't have the goddamn sense to discuss it rationally.
The reason there is a discussion about Bias and Lewis and Gathers is because BB brought it up. Then someone suggested the vaccine and in the spirit of honest debate, you called them a domestic terrorist.
Exactly. You don’t have shit and choose to abandon any actual discussion about facts to bitch and moan about a stranger online. You people are notorious for barking then backpedaling when challenged.
The bottom line is that you’re wrong and would rather lob insults than defend your stance with relevant information.
BacktoBasics
08-05-2023, 04:13 PM
LMFAO:lmao (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/05/kamala-harris-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-409320)
This is as strong of an argument you guys can make. This post right here is how maga fucktards illustrate statistical anomalies. Brilliant defense.
BacktoBasics
08-05-2023, 04:14 PM
Yes.
Not if you have a hormone deficiency. Steroids, hgh, testosterone etc aren’t inherently bad until they’re abused. But again facts and the full picture aren’t your strengths.
koriwhat
08-05-2023, 04:32 PM
Not if you have a hormone deficiency. Steroids, hgh, testosterone etc aren’t inherently bad until they’re abused. But again facts and the full picture aren’t your strengths.
Wait, so steroids can or can not affect the heart? :lmao
But but but... :lol
koriwhat
08-05-2023, 04:33 PM
This is as strong of an argument you guys can make. This post right here is how maga fucktards illustrate statistical anomalies. Brilliant defense.
"All I know how to do is call everyone I disagree with a racist, xenophobe, homophobe, phobe this and phobe that. I hit all the cliche talking points and call everyone MAGA too because I'm so virtuous and belong to a cult!"
Yep that's you dipshit. :tu
BacktoBasics
08-05-2023, 06:11 PM
Wait, so steroids can or can not affect the heart? :lmao
But but but... :lol You know you’re likely given a nasal steroid with a sinus infection. That isn’t inherently bad for your heart. Steroid abuse is the real problem. But I don’t expect you to understand the difference.
"All I know how to do is call everyone I disagree with a racist, xenophobe, homophobe, phobe this and phobe that. I hit all the cliche talking points and call everyone MAGA too because I'm so virtuous and belong to a cult!"
Yep that's you dipshit. :tuYou are what you are.
tonight...you
08-05-2023, 06:17 PM
Over the tiny dog that constantly barks.
Annoying.
Obstructed_View
08-06-2023, 12:12 AM
Do steroids affect the heart negatively?
If they did, Bronny isn't the James who should be dropping on the court.
GAustex
08-06-2023, 12:48 AM
If they did, Bronny isn't the James who should be dropping on the court.
I am sure we will never know
But?
Like father like son?
Obstructed_View
08-06-2023, 01:24 AM
I am sure we will never know
But?
Like father like son?
Yep. We will never know. What a crazy
mystery. Maybe it's all that carbon dioxide that is slowly poisoning us all.
mo7888
08-06-2023, 08:18 AM
For the record I’m traditionally a voting conservative but the current group of so-called conservatives is an embarrassment and far cry from what the party used to stand for.
I wholeheartedly disagree with your evaluation of the data on this issue, but i also wholeheartedly agree with you on your evaluation on these so-called conservatives. They're awful and they aren't remotely conservative. (Obviously im talking about maga types and their cult leader). They are embarrassing..
NickiRasgo
08-06-2023, 11:46 AM
Quite alarming from his end since he's too young but atleast, good for him that he's stable now.
Curious if he'll still continue given with the risk that he'll experience it again or there's a long-term effect.
While it's unfortunate for him, lucky for him because it's not the end for him since the perks of being LeBron's son.
Even if he won't pursue his basketball career, he's already set financially as he already got that generational wealth.
And if he pursues his basketball career can he handle the criticism and pressure to be able to deliver since he's the son of LeBron?
I doubt he'll have the hunger of those coming from nothing since he's considered rich kid unless he's too good for NBA but currently is not.
I don't think he'll be an all-star caliber type of player but it seems he's still a place in the NBA if he makes it - a serviceable role player.
tim_duncan_fan
08-06-2023, 12:11 PM
I wondered why this thread was at the top of the forum still, and of course, it's trump retards. Beautiful. smh
ismael-robert
08-06-2023, 03:32 PM
The far right are only a necessary evil born out of far left progressive, woke, liberal, cancel culture, lbgtabcxyz, metoo, blm extremism that is moving this nation away from its roots n heritage
BacktoBasics
08-06-2023, 04:20 PM
The far right are only a necessary evil born out of far left progressive, woke, liberal, cancel culture, lbgtabcxyz, metoo, blm extremism that is moving this nation away from its roots n heritage
This goes both ways. All those “movements” were born out racist bigotry and misogynistic roots that you’re referring to.
Women were routinely abused and sexually assaulted so we get “me too”. Yet people like you still trivialize the treatment of women while musing for the days where you could abuse and subjugate them.
Being woke was really hijacked by conservatives to fight the reality that minorities are treated differently.
BLM? As if there should be any debate that black people are disproportionately targeted, charged, convicted and abused by the police and legal system.
No group partakes in cancel culture more than conservatives.
The real problem is people like you who want to point a finger at “liberals” as the cause of the problem rather than the collective systemic problems that have plagued our society.
It’s a country problem. Not a liberal one.
I will concede that the pendulum has swung too far in both directions but again you have one group who is essentially legislating against the will of the people. Conservative politicians are much further away from representing the people than liberals.
Hell conservatives want to go after trans people for “grooming”. While completely ignoring the largest grooming ring in the world. The church. If these people truly cared about protecting kids from predators they’d cancel organized religion.
ismael-robert
08-06-2023, 06:15 PM
This term far right didn't get so much media attention till trump, as it didn't really exist. So until the last 4 years people were just conservative then said enough is enough of tearing down the country...and no its not the extreme evils you quote...are you an extremist labeling others for the same?...true conservatives are simply trying to preserve the morals and virtues we were founded upon...conservatives only try to cancel the evils that are perverting our nation...liberals try to cancel anyone speaking up for morals and virtues...you are right conservatives are going against what's "popular" because what's popular is "do what u want", "if it feels good do it", "if it makes u happy do it" and ultimately that we're all our own lil gods making God in our image when we were created in His. The church is the one thing preserving society...once again u spout of extremist views as if it's all evil but if everyone followed the true church it would solve all the world's problems
BacktoBasics
08-06-2023, 07:24 PM
This term far right didn't get so much media attention till trump, as it didn't really exist. So until the last 4 years people were just conservative then said enough is enough of tearing down the country...and no its not the extreme evils you quote...are you an extremist labeling others for the same?...true conservatives are simply trying to preserve the morals and virtues we were founded upon...conservatives only try to cancel the evils that are perverting our nation...liberals try to cancel anyone speaking up for morals and virtues...you are right conservatives are going against what's "popular" because what's popular is "do what u want", "if it feels good do it", "if it makes u happy do it" and ultimately that we're all our own lil gods making God in our image when we were created in His. The church is the one thing preserving society...once again u spout of extremist views as if it's all evil but if everyone followed the true church it would solve all the world's problems
So you admit they fully engage in cancel culture. The term “far right” always existed. Predominantly in religious conservatives.
Traditionally conservatives valued individual freedom. They might not agree with your lifestyle or beliefs but it was your right to hold them and their right to simply be indifferent.
That is until conservative politicians began to see that the religious right would fund social and class warfare as they did fiscal conservatism back in the day.
How about you preserve your own fucking morals and your own values and stay the fuck out of everyone else’s business. It should be a representation of what the people want. Not your bullshit religion.
You want that lifestyle? Fine. Go have it but don’t fucking legislate your shit onto everyone else. That is the very definition of anti American when you stifle the free will of the people to impose your beliefs.
The shit you just spewed in this post is exactly the domestic terrorism we should be fighting against. Your rant is as unAmerican as it gets.
The church doesn’t solve anything. It is the problem. Go ask the nearly half a million victims of abuse at the churches hands.
tonight...you
08-06-2023, 07:25 PM
This term far right didn't get so much media attention till trump, as it didn't really exist. So until the last 4 years people were just conservative then said enough is enough of tearing down the country...and no its not the extreme evils you quote...are you an extremist labeling others for the same?...true conservatives are simply trying to preserve the morals and virtues we were founded upon...conservatives only try to cancel the evils that are perverting our nation...liberals try to cancel anyone speaking up for morals and virtues...you are right conservatives are going against what's "popular" because what's popular is "do what u want", "if it feels good do it", "if it makes u happy do it" and ultimately that we're all our own lil gods making God in our image when we were created in His. The church is the one thing preserving society...once again u spout of extremist views as if it's all evil but if everyone followed the true church it would solve all the world's problems
Irony.
Nobody likes a middle ground any more.
Nobody even thinks middle ground anymore. Do What Thou Wilt vs the "True" Church even in your mind.
Gotta have one to counter the other. There's no more going across the aisle and making compromises for a better future.
It's one way, or the highway and that one way better be the "True" way.
That's about all I'm going to say and shall say no more.
I really dislike how polarized we have become. Even the ones who think they're normal as they cling to one side as hard as they can.
It's sad that the last presidential regime that truly walked across the aisle to work things out turned out to be one of the main reasons we're here in this point in History.
Even Rome burned.
BacktoBasics
08-06-2023, 07:30 PM
Irony.
Nobody likes a middle ground any more.
Nobody even thinks middle ground anymore. Do What Thou Wilt vs the "True" Church even in your mind.
Gotta have one to counter the other. There's no more going across the aisle and making compromises for a better future.
It's one way, or the highway and that one way better be the "True" way.
That's about all I'm going to say and shall say no more.
I really dislike how polarized we have become. Even the ones who think they're normal as they cling to one side as hard as they can.
It's sad that the last presidential regime that truly walked across the aisle to work things out turned out to be one of the main reasons we're here in this point in History.
Even Rome burned.
I can show you how wrong he is with no effort.
He can live however he wants. If he doesn’t want to use birth control or have abortions. No problem. If he wants to worship an imaginary god and create a moral code for himself and his family to follow. No problem.
If he wants to ban books or weed or sex in his home. No problem.
There’s your compromise. He can maintain complete free will.
However his stance is that they’ll fund politicians and use the government to control our free will.
It’s not both sides refusing to compromise. It’s one side wanting to completely control what everyone can do.
tonight...you
08-06-2023, 07:37 PM
I can show you how wrong he is with no effort.
He can live however he wants. If he doesn’t want to use birth control or have abortions. No problem. If he wants to worship an imaginary god and create a moral code for himself and his family to follow. No problem.
If he wants to ban books or weed or sex in his home. No problem.
There’s your compromise. He can maintain complete free will.
However his stance is that they’ll fund politicians and use the government to control our free will.
It’s not both sides refusing to compromise. It’s one side wanting to completely control what everyone can do.
I said my peace and now I'm done.
I'm hating that we have devolved to this.
You guys carry on with your wasted energy.
I'll use mine to vote and educate a different spectrum of politics to those around me should they want. I will not volunteer what I think.
One that's not extreme, willing to work with each other and altogether now unrealistic, given the overall environment.
When meteorologists get death threats over reporting how and why it's about to get really hot...
We've long since jumped the shark into stupid.
I'm sad. And now, truly, this is my last anything about any of this from anyone.
baseline bum
08-06-2023, 07:53 PM
The far right are only a necessary evil born out of far left progressive, woke, liberal, cancel culture, lbgtabcxyz, metoo, blm extremism that is moving this nation away from its roots n heritage
Its roots as a nation made rich off genocide, stolen land, and slavery? Sounds way more extreme than Me Too and defunding the police.
ismael-robert
08-06-2023, 10:29 PM
Yeah of course I'm speaking of bringing back evil things...eye roll...I'm speaking of traditional family values and a nation who's laws and constitution were based upon the laws of the One who u refuse to believe. I apologize for conservatives hoping we can force morals back on society, Sorry we're trying to preserve your lives from your own destruction. No there is no middle ground because good people aren't saved. You can't hope that your good outweighing ur bad will save you, it won't. Because we know this, and we care about people in general, it is our hope that ur eyes will be opened to this....its not to force u to think like us, for the true it is out of love...I don't follow a religion, I don't follow or believe in a building, the church is invisible n it is in us...it is a person...and belief in that person is the only thing that can save any of us...so it is following that Person that can solve all of our problems....those who did evil were not followers of that Person therefore u cannot cast blame...they were following themselves, they were doing as u say-what they wanted, what felt good to them, what made them happy...if those are ur virtues then applaud them don't shame them
ismael-robert
08-06-2023, 10:32 PM
But if we spurn God's loving offer of salvation and refuse to believe on Jesus Christ, neither we nor God can avoid our condemnation. No unbeliever will suffer in hell because God lacked love, but "because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God."
BacktoBasics
08-06-2023, 10:50 PM
Yeah of course I'm speaking of bringing back evil things...eye roll...I'm speaking of traditional family values and a nation who's laws and constitution were based upon the laws of the One who u refuse to believe. I apologize for conservatives hoping we can force morals back on society, Sorry we're trying to preserve your lives from your own destruction. No there is no middle ground because good people aren't saved. You can't hope that your good outweighing ur bad will save you, it won't. Because we know this, and we care about people in general, it is our hope that ur eyes will be opened to this....its not to force u to think like us, for the true it is out of love...I don't follow a religion, I don't follow or believe in a building, the church is invisible n it is in us...it is a person...and belief in that person is the only thing that can save any of us...so it is following that Person that can solve all of our problems....those who did evil were not followers of that Person therefore u cannot cast blame...they were following themselves, they were doing as u say-what they wanted, what felt good to them, what made them happy...if those are ur virtues then applaud them don't shame them
Preserve yourself asshole. Leave everyone else alone.
BacktoBasics
08-06-2023, 10:51 PM
But if we spurn God's loving offer of salvation and refuse to believe on Jesus Christ, neither we nor God can avoid our condemnation. No unbeliever will suffer in hell because God lacked love, but "because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God."
That’s your problem not ours. Worry about yourself or fuck off. Stop demanding that we conform to your bullshit.
baseline bum
08-06-2023, 11:14 PM
Yeah of course I'm speaking of bringing back evil things...eye roll...I'm speaking of traditional family values and a nation who's laws and constitution were based upon the laws of the One who u refuse to believe. I apologize for conservatives hoping we can force morals back on society, Sorry we're trying to preserve your lives from your own destruction. No there is no middle ground because good people aren't saved. You can't hope that your good outweighing ur bad will save you, it won't. Because we know this, and we care about people in general, it is our hope that ur eyes will be opened to this....its not to force u to think like us, for the true it is out of love...I don't follow a religion, I don't follow or believe in a building, the church is invisible n it is in us...it is a person...and belief in that person is the only thing that can save any of us...so it is following that Person that can solve all of our problems....those who did evil were not followers of that Person therefore u cannot cast blame...they were following themselves, they were doing as u say-what they wanted, what felt good to them, what made them happy...if those are ur virtues then applaud them don't shame them
LOL believing this horseshit after the age of 9
LOL believing this horseshit after the age of 9
How can't you believe in a cult creating by men 2 thousands year ago, furiously inspired by egyptian myths and based on men walking on water then resurrecting on a flart Earth created 10 thousands years ago?
Do'nt you know there's a loving God taking care of you destiny and there's a reason for everything, like kids shot in Texas high schools or sexually abused in said God's very own house?( A french catholic church study reavealed an estimated 350 thousands kids have been sexually abused in catholic schools or other environments and around 3% of catholic "staff" was pedophile).
But I suppose the God these kids were praying from all the tears of their bodies to stop their nightmare was occupied making a bunch of athletes millionaires for putting a ball in a circle, since they all thank him when they get the big bag.
BacktoBasics
08-07-2023, 08:52 AM
How can't you believe in a cult creating by men 2 thousands year ago, furiously inspired by egyptian myths and based on men walking on water then resurrecting on a flart Earth created 10 thousands years ago?
Do'nt you know there's a loving God taking care of you destiny and there's a reason for everything, like kids shot in Texas high schools or sexually abused in said God's very own house?( A french catholic church study reavealed an estimated 350 thousands kids have been sexually abused in catholic schools or other environments and around 3% of catholic "staff" was pedophile).
But I suppose the God these kids were praying from all the tears of their bodies to stop their nightmare was occupied making a bunch of athletes millionaires for putting a ball in a circle, since they all thank him when they get the big bag.
Who knew fondling prepubescent testicles saved lives. Every tiny penis matters.
baseline bum
08-07-2023, 09:20 AM
How can't you believe in a cult creating by men 2 thousands year ago, furiously inspired by egyptian myths and based on men walking on water then resurrecting on a flart Earth created 10 thousands years ago?
Do'nt you know there's a loving God taking care of you destiny and there's a reason for everything, like kids shot in Texas high schools or sexually abused in said God's very own house?( A french catholic church study reavealed an estimated 350 thousands kids have been sexually abused in catholic schools or other environments and around 3% of catholic "staff" was pedophile).
But I suppose the God these kids were praying from all the tears of their bodies to stop their nightmare was occupied making a bunch of athletes millionaires for putting a ball in a circle, since they all thank him when they get the big bag.
He beats you because he loves you
MultiTroll
08-07-2023, 09:45 AM
Who knew fondling prepubescent testicles saved lives. Every tiny penis matters.
I don't know and in more Bronny James cardiac arrest related news:
Transgender Michigan woman orders former boyfriend to return her testicles from his fridge (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/transgender-michigan-woman-orders-former-boyfriend-to-return-her-testicles-from-his-fridge/ar-AA1eUuqP)
Joseph Kony
08-07-2023, 09:48 AM
How can't you believe in a cult creating by men 2 thousands year ago, furiously inspired by egyptian myths and based on men walking on water then resurrecting on a flart Earth created 10 thousands years ago?
Do'nt you know there's a loving God taking care of you destiny and there's a reason for everything, like kids shot in Texas high schools or sexually abused in said God's very own house?( A french catholic church study reavealed an estimated 350 thousands kids have been sexually abused in catholic schools or other environments and around 3% of catholic "staff" was pedophile).
But I suppose the God these kids were praying from all the tears of their bodies to stop their nightmare was occupied making a bunch of athletes millionaires for putting a ball in a circle, since they all thank him when they get the big bag.
https://i.ibb.co/SKzF5W5/dont-masturbate-jesus-is-watching.gif
Joseph Kony
08-07-2023, 09:50 AM
"traditional family values" :lol werent a bunch of the founders fucking slaves and breeding a bunch of bastard mulatto children that they didnt give a fuck about? this country was never founded on morals and values. lmao that people still believe that shit
MultiTroll
08-07-2023, 10:26 AM
It all just came about by the Great Dust Spect
https://i.ibb.co/SKzF5W5/dont-masturbate-jesus-is-watching.gif
Ed Helicopter Jones
08-07-2023, 10:39 AM
Why does every thread have to become political???
I come in this shiznit to get away from reality.
Extra Stout
08-07-2023, 10:49 AM
"traditional family values" :lol werent a bunch of the founders fucking slaves and breeding a bunch of bastard mulatto children that they didnt give a fuck about? this country was never founded on morals and values. lmao that people still believe that shit
Perhaps one could in the past be generous and think a reasonable person could look at the United States and see that fidelity to its founding vision required a meticulous sorting of what was good and what was evil, and keeping the good, and discarding the evil, in order to fulfill that vision.
But no. They want to keep the evil. They want the groups traditionally privileged in the social hierarchies to keep those privileges, and to reap the resulting exploitative benefits.
And they don’t pretend anymore. They come right out and say that a “republic” need not be democratic, and “representative” need not have anything to do with reflecting the interests of the people. They will do whatever is necessary to maintain their position in the social order.
ginobilized
08-07-2023, 10:57 AM
This is a Spurs basketball forum, right?
BacktoBasics
08-07-2023, 10:59 AM
I don't know and in more Bronny James cardiac arrest related news:
Transgender Michigan woman orders former boyfriend to return her testicles from his fridge (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/transgender-michigan-woman-orders-former-boyfriend-to-return-her-testicles-from-his-fridge/ar-AA1eUuqP)
Thanks for admitting that a homophobe such as yourself routinely searches “trans balls”.
MultiTroll
08-07-2023, 09:39 PM
Why does every thread have to become political???
I come in this shiznit to get away from reality.
Motion passed to make all further comments on this thread to be related to Bronny James cardiac condition.
CorrectCrusader
08-07-2023, 10:13 PM
Irony.
Nobody likes a middle ground any more.
Nobody even thinks middle ground anymore. Do What Thou Wilt vs the "True" Church even in your mind.
Gotta have one to counter the other. There's no more going across the aisle and making compromises for a better future.
It's one way, or the highway and that one way better be the "True" way.
That's about all I'm going to say and shall say no more.
I really dislike how polarized we have become. Even the ones who think they're normal as they cling to one side as hard as they can.
It's sad that the last presidential regime that truly walked across the aisle to work things out turned out to be one of the main reasons we're here in this point in History.
Even Rome burned.
You're right that Rome burned, but it was a slow burn with several periods of rebirth over a thousand years.
We're in a period of change with modern technology completely changing how we as a society are going to have to organize politically. Everyone knows the current regimes are dying, (I'm not talking about parties I'm talking about the common belief systems of the last 60 years).
Right now the "liberal" (and I say that in a classical sense) ruling regime is failing to produce any future for the new generations being born in the west. This will result in a repudiation, which is what you are seeing with the division. Everyone is freaking out trying to find out why everyone is so damn depressed, becoming less wealthy, less kids, high crime, and low trust in the society. Unless the regime changes course to another direction soon, it will simply seal it's suicide and lead to whatever comes next, whatever that may be.
I'm a dissident right winger, and in these dissident circles there's a lot of discussion on what the ruling class should pursue in order to make the lives of the everyman better.
Hold on to hope and think and build toward the future, regardless of whether you're left or right, you should build for your children and their children!
CorrectCrusader
08-07-2023, 10:13 PM
Motion passed to make all further comments on this thread to be related to Bronny James cardiac condition.
haha, oopsy
This is a Spurs basketball forum, right?
It's hard to tell these days. Any basketball related post is being taking over by man-children trying to flex their personal views on an a Spurs website during the deadest time of the year.
I'm not going to name names, but there are a lot of them in this thread.
MultiTroll
08-08-2023, 10:00 AM
The one lesson a Richmond doctor wants you to learn from Bronny James (wtvr.com) (https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/bronny-james-health-scare-july-31-2023)
Project ADAM (https://www.projectadam.com/)
BacktoBasics
08-08-2023, 11:02 AM
The one lesson a Richmond doctor wants you to learn from Bronny James (wtvr.com) (https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/bronny-james-health-scare-july-31-2023)
Project ADAM (https://www.projectadam.com/)
From your very own link.
Project ADAM began in 1999 in Wisconsin after the death of Adam Lemel, who was just 17-years-old when he collapsed and died while playing basketball. Adam suffered a sudden cardiac arrest (SCA), in which ventricular fibrillation occurred, a condition in which the ventricles cannot pump blood into the body. Defibrillation, or an AED, could have saved his life. Adam’s parents, Patty and Joe, teamed up with Children’s Wisconsin to create Project ADAM.
While sudden cardiac arrest is uncommon in young people, it sadly does happen. And it’s exactly that — sudden and unexpected.How did he get the Fauci ouchie in 99?
For all you mouth breathing antivax retards that say cardiac arrest doesn't happen in young people or young athletes.
Joseph Kony
08-08-2023, 03:34 PM
It all just came about by the Great Dust Spect
https://i.ibb.co/SKzF5W5/dont-masturbate-jesus-is-watching.gif
weird how you jeebotards are fine accepting that your fake god snapped himself into existence but find the big bang to be ridiculous :lol
MultiTroll
08-08-2023, 03:46 PM
weird how you jeebotards are fine accepting that your fake god snapped himself into existence but find the big bang to be ridiculous :lol
Kornytard can you discuss this on a Creation / Evolution thread or do you need attention / fapping fuel by posting here?
BacktoBasics
08-08-2023, 04:01 PM
weird how you jeebotards are fine accepting that your fake god snapped himself into existence but find the big bang to be ridiculous :lol
This fuckwit is worried about a dust spec while completely ignoring a dude walking on water, taking snakes, neckbeard rising from the dead and virgin births.
I’d rather mow through a pizza in front of a cannibal than deal with religious loons.
BacktoBasics
08-08-2023, 04:03 PM
Kornytard can you discuss this on a Creation / Evolution thread or do you need attention / fapping fuel by posting here?
You brought it up dumb fuck. What? All of sudden you got a problem with people going off topic. Get the fuck outta here with that shit. Go eat another paper wafer and pretend it’s the body of a blue haired white guy who only loves murica.
MultiTroll
08-08-2023, 04:15 PM
You brought it up dumb fuck. What? All of sudden you got a problem with people going off topic. Get the fuck outta here with that shit. Go eat another paper wafer and pretend it’s the body of a blue haired white guy who only loves murica.
No i didn't bring it up.
More falsehoods from you.
We're trying to make this a basketball discussion.
Take a Midol please and try to cooperate.
BacktoBasics
08-08-2023, 04:20 PM
No i didn't bring it up.
More falsehoods from you.
We're trying to make this a basketball discussion.
Take a Midol please and try to cooperate.
Perhaps revisit the definition of falsehood. He literally quoted you. The bullshit infecting this place largely stops when you people shut the fuck up.
ismael-robert
08-08-2023, 04:21 PM
God had no beginning and has no end. He is the uncaused cause. Actually science got big bang from us: Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light=big bang
Joseph Kony
08-08-2023, 04:34 PM
Kornytard can you discuss this on a Creation / Evolution thread or do you need attention / fapping fuel by posting here?
:lol hilarious coming from the retarded attention whore thats always posting the stupidest fucking threads imaginable. lol Faggs
Joseph Kony
08-08-2023, 04:34 PM
God had no beginning and has no end. He is the uncaused cause. Actually science got big bang from us: Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light=big bang
Lol no
BacktoBasics
08-08-2023, 04:53 PM
God had no beginning and has no end. He is the uncaused cause. Actually science got big bang from us: Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light=big bang
What makes you think people want to hear your crap? Can’t you just keep it to yourself? Isn’t that what you demand of minorities and gay people? Can’t take your own advice? Groom somewhere else?
Want to make a real difference? Go stop your local church representatives from molesting their next victim.
ismael-robert
08-08-2023, 05:15 PM
Is that gonna be your excuse on judgement day...but but I didn't wanna believe cause some false followers of urs abused children! What makes u think I or Christianity has anything against Minorities? Can u at least be sincere in ur arguments and not lump things on me or Christianity that even unbelievers should know by common sense that we don't believe...u kno I am a minority...what's my first name
TD 21
08-08-2023, 05:15 PM
:lmao Typical. A thread about cardiac arrest being politicized by the brainwashed, agenda pushing, propaganda toting lunatics who continue to pollute this country/planet with their nonsense and fearmongering.
This country, both past and present, is a disgrace because of delusional people like you, who are too stupid to realize you're no more indigenous to this land than the very people you want to continue to treat like second class citizens or worse.
ismael-robert
08-08-2023, 05:16 PM
For the person who thinks Christianity came from Egyptian folklore do ur research its been debunked...all your EXCUSES to live as u wish have been debunked
ismael-robert
08-08-2023, 05:25 PM
I went through a period as a horrible sinner and unbeliever...before I chose to follow I did my research as I'm a pragmatist and the evidence is more heavily for than against
MultiTroll
08-08-2023, 05:44 PM
Perhaps revisit the definition of falsehood. He literally quoted you. The bullshit infecting this place largely stops when you people shut the fuck up.
After i had quoted him.
Double the dose, it's necessary.
Anything on Bronny James condition?
baseline bum
08-08-2023, 05:50 PM
Best part of Christianity is Mary getting Joseph to believe Jamal's kid was really immaculate conception since he never had any interest in taking his wife on the floor. Which is amazing to me given how much the Christians hate the gays when it's pretty clear their messiah was raised by one.
MultiTroll
08-08-2023, 07:19 PM
It's hard to tell these days. Any basketball related post is being taking over by man-children trying to flex their personal views on an a Spurs website during the deadest time of the year.
I'm not going to name names, but there are a lot of them in this thread.
Yep.
Well here are some insights / updates on Bronny James.
The NBA does have a previous cardiac in Jared Butler, from Baylor and now on WA.
Bronny James cardiac arrest updates: What we know as son of LeBron James recovers from heart issue (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-updates-what-we-know-as-son-of-lebron-james-recovers-from-heart-issue/ar-AA1eYpsT?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=fd167ee526b44c29909cbe75dea37f67&ei=9)
BacktoBasics
08-08-2023, 08:07 PM
Is that gonna be your excuse on judgement day...but but I didn't wanna believe cause some false followers of urs abused children! What makes u think I or Christianity has anything against Minorities? Can u at least be sincere in ur arguments and not lump things on me or Christianity that even unbelievers should know by common sense that we don't believe...u kno I am a minority...what's my first name
Just because you believe something doesn’t make it so. You have lumped all of existence into your belief system. Take your own advice. The problem with people like you is you’re so self aggrandizing. The world doesn’t revolve around your beliefs. Stop being a self centered prick.
The whole idea that I’m wrong because I don’t believe in the same shit you do is the very antithesis of American culture. You’re free to believe what you want but the moment it bleeds into my free will we have a problem.
Your group is the one legislating over other people’s free will. You’re the problem.
BacktoBasics
08-08-2023, 08:13 PM
Yep.
Well here are some insights / updates on Bronny James.
The NBA does have a previous cardiac in Jared Butler, from Baylor and now on WA.
Bronny James cardiac arrest updates: What we know as son of LeBron James recovers from heart issue (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-updates-what-we-know-as-son-of-lebron-james-recovers-from-heart-issue/ar-AA1eYpsT?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=fd167ee526b44c29909cbe75dea37f67&ei=9)
This is what you wanted so this is what you’re getting. I’m going to make a point to devolve every thread you people do this in. I’ll take the bait every single time and you can live with the result. If you want it to stop then stfu. We’ve all had enough of you people.
offset formation
08-08-2023, 09:21 PM
God had no beginning and has no end. He is the uncaused cause. Actually science got big bang from us: Genesis 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light=big bang
It's a well known fact that subatomic particles pop into and out of existence all the time...just so you know
offset formation
08-08-2023, 09:32 PM
I went through a period as a horrible sinner and unbeliever...before I chose to follow I did my research as I'm a pragmatist and the evidence is more heavily for than against
horrible sinner? that sounds fun, do tell.
Have you really thought through the sheer idiocy and hypocrisy of the notion of a being/creator with omnipotence and omniscience impregnating a teenage girl to die for our sins, in an era without real time communication? So that in essence the message is lost on millions of otherwise salvageable souls? Or he could have done all that and made it clear to everyone that they need to be God-fearing humble servants and set the ground rules very clearly to avoid any confusion that might lead one to an eternal life of hellfire?
Seriously, have you ever really thought through the inanity of any of that nonsense, as a pragmatist?
baseline bum
08-08-2023, 09:56 PM
It's a well known fact that subatomic particles pop into and out of existence all the time...just so you know
And an experimentally verified fact
Extra Stout
08-08-2023, 11:32 PM
Hopefully Bronny goes on to a long, fruitful life. Maybe he can become born again and try to proselytize skeptics on old Internet discussion forums.
exstatic
08-09-2023, 10:15 AM
This is what you wanted so this is what you’re getting. I’m going to make a point to devolve every thread you people do this in. I’ll take the bait every single time and you can live with the result. If you want it to stop then stfu. We’ve all had enough of you people.
I have most of the 'tards on ignore, and have been forced to add you today, because of this. I don't want to see their shit splattered on my screen, and you do just that, and it's also exactly what they want. You breathe life into them by doing this. They'll NEVER shut up until you stop responding. Put them on ignore.
BacktoBasics
08-09-2023, 10:37 AM
I have most of the 'tards on ignore, and have been forced to add you today, because of this. I don't want to see their shit splattered on my screen, and you do just that, and it's also exactly what they want. You breathe life into them by doing this. They'll NEVER shut up until you stop responding. Put them on ignore.
You do whatever makes you feel better. But you ignoring them accomplished nothing for the overall board. Seems to me that what they really want is to say what they want to say unchallenged and unencumbered. Great you don't see it but we still do. You and others ignoring them didn't stop their behavior so making this place miserable for them is what's left. I would generally agree with you about ignoring people but this has gone on long enough and ignoring them has just given them the liberty to run their mouths unabated. So I'm done with that.
spurraider21
08-09-2023, 11:53 AM
For the person who thinks Christianity came from Egyptian folklore do ur research its been debunked...all your EXCUSES to live as u wish have been debunked
it did come from people who's greatest technological advancement at the time was open toe sandals
wtf- i came in here to see if there had been any updates on bronnie and apparently the only thing i missed was an atheists vs christianity debate. only in ST. :lol
mookie2001
08-09-2023, 12:32 PM
Yeah after 20 years this dumbass thread may finally bring down this entire website.
ismael-robert
08-09-2023, 10:49 PM
horrible sinner? that sounds fun, do tell.
Have you really thought through the sheer idiocy and hypocrisy of the notion of a being/creator with omnipotence and omniscience impregnating a teenage girl to die for our sins, in an era without real time communication? So that in essence the message is lost on millions of otherwise salvageable souls? Or he could have done all that and made it clear to everyone that they need to be God-fearing humble servants and set the ground rules very clearly to avoid any confusion that might lead one to an eternal life of hellfire?
Seriously, have you ever really thought through the inanity of any of that nonsense, as a pragmatist?
So what are you proposing? That He have waited till the implementation of the internet losing millions of more souls in the mean time? 12 men without modern transportation or communication were actually very efficient in taking the message out to rest of world. They were each commissioned to different regions/countries. It's simple to find their journeys recorded by historians. The book of Acts records that when Peter gave his first sermon (Pentecost) that 3000 were baptised in one day. Then, what you describe actually happened! When Martin Luther wrote his theses and started the Protestant revolution, it was at same time as the inception of the printing press! So the truth of salvation was able to spread like wildfire crippling the false teachings of the catholic church! The gospels were not meant to be stories or fables, they were historical recordings by eye witnesses. The book of Luke starts with: Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled[a] among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.
The Birth of John the Baptist Foretold
5 In the time of Herod king of Judea there was a priest named Zechariah, who belonged to the priestly division of Abijah; his wife Elizabeth was also a descendant of Aaron.
So Luke, a physician by trade, was contracted out by a Roman governor to gather a historical account. He then goes into naming historical figures so we have a time period to reference (and we know these historical figures existed in historical recordings external to the Bible). That's what's significant about Scripture is that all the historical characters and locations/landmarks can be found and explored today and the characters can be found in historical writings. The book of Matthew even records the genealogy of Jesus. If there is a creator God, who could create everything in seven days...then the other miracles recorded should be rather simple and not difficult to believe. And one theory out there that yall can probably grasp is that if u take the big bang into consideration, that all this started in one central location. So if the universe was once incredibly small, then its rotation would have been infinitely faster than our 24hr days today. So years were flying by in milliseconds! So when Scripture says day 1 he created...it actually may have been millions of years passing by in a single day!
ismael-robert
08-09-2023, 10:52 PM
it did come from people who's greatest technological advancement at the time was open toe sandals
I know right! Isn't it amazing that a bunch of uneducated fishermen were able to turn the world on its head and make the greatest historical impact that is still the most significant movement to this day! God chooses the least of us to show how mighty He is!
ismael-robert
08-09-2023, 10:55 PM
For BacktoBasics exstatic made a good point. If u were able to make a respectful post I'd likely go about my business. You've asked me multiple times to keep it to myself, while continuing to hurl insults. So if u took ur own advice I might do the same.
ismael-robert
08-09-2023, 11:06 PM
To offset...sure brother, so preChrist fornication was pretty much my religion. God did a hell of job creating woman did He not?! Women were nothing but an object for my pleasure. I didn't care who I hurt. The internet was no help either. I lean into God to this day for strength but temptation has pretty much left me for the most part. Through this evil though, God is able to use my testimony to help others with similar struggles. God is able to use evil for His good. Who better to relate to those than one who has experienced it? I've had a supernatural healing experience that no science could explain...heck I couldn't even explain it! It came at a time when I was still having some doubts and took it as God revealing Himself to me and telling me, "I'm here with you." It involved me healing my son. So say what yall want and laugh all u want. I know what I've experienced. If any of u wanna see something different from anything you've ever seen or heard before I'm at Metachurch every Sunday at 1130. They also have 945 and 115 services. Come grab a seat with me and I got yalls lunch! Send me a pm if u wanna know more.
Brazil
08-10-2023, 09:02 AM
To offset...sure brother, so preChrist fornication was pretty much my religion. God did a hell of job creating woman did He not?! Women were nothing but an object for my pleasure. I didn't care who I hurt. The internet was no help either. I lean into God to this day for strength but temptation has pretty much left me for the most part. Through this evil though, God is able to use my testimony to help others with similar struggles. God is able to use evil for His good. Who better to relate to those than one who has experienced it? I've had a supernatural healing experience that no science could explain...heck I couldn't even explain it! It came at a time when I was still having some doubts and took it as God revealing Himself to me and telling me, "I'm here with you." It involved me healing my son. So say what yall want and laugh all u want. I know what I've experienced. If any of u wanna see something different from anything you've ever seen or heard before I'm at Metachurch every Sunday at 1130. They also have 945 and 115 services. Come grab a seat with me and I got yalls lunch! Send me a pm if u wanna know more.
shut the fuck up tbh...
MultiTroll
08-10-2023, 09:20 AM
LeBron James’ youngest son Bryce James leaves Campbell Hall for Notre Dame High School (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/lebron-james-youngest-son-bryce-james-leaves-campbell-hall-for-notre-dame-high-school/ar-AA1f43Xy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=97124f3a501d4cb28ab09df52208b1ee&ei=10)
Bryce is expected to arrive on the college scene in 2025. At the moment, he’s already received offers from Duquesne and USC.
exstatic
08-10-2023, 09:22 AM
For BacktoBasics exstatic made a good point. If u were able to make a respectful post I'd likely go about my business. You've asked me multiple times to keep it to myself, while continuing to hurl insults. So if u took ur own advice I might do the same.
Yeah, keep my name out of your mouth. I'm not on your side.
BacktoBasics
08-10-2023, 09:35 AM
For BacktoBasics exstatic made a good point. If u were able to make a respectful post I'd likely go about my business. You've asked me multiple times to keep it to myself, while continuing to hurl insults. So if u took ur own advice I might do the same.
I don’t feel real compelled to be respectful. Your group is eroding rights and leveraging the government against the people. You believe that your moral code should apply to everyone even if it means controlling their free will. I don’t respect that at all.
Why should I show curtesy to that? I remember way back there was a member here who took issue with Obama because he refused to address the far right’s accusations that he was the devil reincarnated. It was in the scriptures that he was the devil and fit the description of a great evil in human form. It was the dumbest shit ever and deserved no attention. Yet this person took the lack of his acknowledgment and response as admission that he was in fact the devil.
The crap you preach on about is pretty much on that level. Nothing that you say is rooted in reality. It’s all faith based interpretation that’s been indoctrinated in you.
That’s your problem not ours.
MultiTroll
08-10-2023, 09:52 AM
Bronny James reportedly went to the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/bronny-james-reportedly-went-to-the-mayo-clinic-in-minnesota/ar-AA1f5VXz)
CorrectCrusader
08-10-2023, 12:26 PM
weird how you jeebotards are fine accepting that your fake god snapped himself into existence but find the big bang to be ridiculous :lol
The big bang theory was introduced by a catholic so
Joseph Kony
08-10-2023, 04:03 PM
The big bang theory was introduced by a catholic so
so was a lot of old dick into little boys bootyholes
tonight...you
08-10-2023, 04:26 PM
so was a lot of old dick into little boys bootyholes
Lol, JRK! What about the LRA?
I don’t feel real compelled to be respectful. Your group is eroding rights and leveraging the government against the people. You believe that your moral code should apply to everyone even if it means controlling their free will. I don’t respect that at all.
Wow, for a moment I thought you were describing the sharia...
The big bang theory was introduced by a catholic so
Yep, belgium astronome George Lemaître. But they are plenty of catholic astrophysicians, which make their faith even more nonsensical and simply cultural...Most people are catholic because they grow up in a catholic environement, which is the same for every religion... It's a tradition more than religion people are emotionnaly connected to.
There was a new religion every other week when catholiicism was invented, thats' just the one who stuck because roman army really started to arrive at that time in that part of the world and took it back home... could have been another one, I mean there are other ones, right?
Anybody who read Isis, Osiris, Set or Horus myths or knows about Pharaoh Akenhaten's religion can clearly the connections and sometimes literally copies of egyptian myths (like Moses found in a river as a baby) men inspired themselves to create a concurrent cult. If there were a DMCA at that time, egyptians would have sued christians for copyright infrigement.
Hundreds of different disciples wrote, corrected, rewrote the bible, not always with the same elements. I mean there's some gospels where Jesus is barely mentioned or as an extra in the story... And if anyone today was coming with a similar story/cult, he would directly end up in an asylum...
Yo don't need any human God on the clouds to feed your spirituality and to believe in something bigger in the Universe. it's way above any kind of funky cult or circus religion.
MultiTroll
08-10-2023, 05:51 PM
When questioned by Sports Illustrated, Bronny James said of his injury
"There are no atheists in foxholes."
Joseph Kony
08-10-2023, 05:58 PM
Lol, JRK! What about the LRA?
i never said i didnt enjoy some nice boy booty
tonight...you
08-10-2023, 06:18 PM
i never said i didnt enjoy some nice boy booty
You are practically Jesus' brother my friend.
ismael-robert
08-10-2023, 07:43 PM
Yep, belgium astronome George Lemaître. But they are plenty of catholic astrophysicians, which make their faith even more nonsensical and simply cultural...Most people are catholic because they grow up in a catholic environement, which is the same for every religion... It's a tradition more than religion people are emotionnaly connected to.
There was a new religion every other week when catholiicism was invented, thats' just the one who stuck because roman army really started to arrive at that time in that part of the world and took it back home... could have been another one, I mean there are other ones, right?
Anybody who read Isis, Osiris, Set or Horus myths or knows about Pharaoh Akenhaten's religion can clearly the connections and sometimes literally copies of egyptian myths (like Moses found in a river as a baby) men inspired themselves to create a concurrent cult. If there were a DMCA at that time, egyptians would have sued christians for copyright infrigement.
Hundreds of different disciples wrote, corrected, rewrote the bible, not always with the same elements. I mean there's some gospels where Jesus is barely mentioned or as an extra in the story... And if anyone today was coming with a similar story/cult, he would directly end up in an asylum...
Yo don't need any human God on the clouds to feed your spirituality and to believe in something bigger in the Universe. it's way above any kind of funky cult or circus religion.
https://www.equip.org/articles/was-the-new-testament-influenced-by-pagan-religions/
https://carm.org/evidence-and-answers/hasnt-the-bible-been-rewritten-so-many-times-that-we-cant-trust-it-anymore/
ismael-robert
08-10-2023, 07:48 PM
I'm in an Exstatic mood, anyone else? Brazil, keep scrolling
tonight...you
08-10-2023, 07:50 PM
I'm in an Exstatic mood, anyone else? Brazil, keep scrolling
Definitely want to ignore you.
MultiTroll
08-10-2023, 09:15 PM
Is Cardiac Arrest Common in Younger People, and Do Athletics Play a Role? (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/fitness/is-cardiac-arrest-common-in-younger-people-and-do-athletics-play-a-role/ar-AA1eOjYi?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=7db9ddf533a847bd8aa4a34c68c1b2bd&ei=16)
offset formation
08-10-2023, 11:17 PM
To offset...sure brother, so preChrist fornication was pretty much my religion. God did a hell of job creating woman did He not?! Women were nothing but an object for my pleasure. I didn't care who I hurt. The internet was no help either. I lean into God to this day for strength but temptation has pretty much left me for the most part. Through this evil though, God is able to use my testimony to help others with similar struggles. God is able to use evil for His good. Who better to relate to those than one who has experienced it? I've had a supernatural healing experience that no science could explain...heck I couldn't even explain it! It came at a time when I was still having some doubts and took it as God revealing Himself to me and telling me, "I'm here with you." It involved me healing my son. So say what yall want and laugh all u want. I know what I've experienced. If any of u wanna see something different from anything you've ever seen or heard before I'm at Metachurch every Sunday at 1130. They also have 945 and 115 services. Come grab a seat with me and I got yalls lunch! Send me a pm if u wanna know more.
You do realize you don't need a God threatening you with eternal hellfire to not treat women like shit, right? Right?
MultiTroll
08-11-2023, 12:22 AM
Why did the ST atheist throw his watch out the window?
He wanted to see if it was designed intelligently enough to evolve into a bird.
ismael-robert
08-11-2023, 01:07 AM
Offset it wasn't the fear of hell, it was His loving grace n forgiveness. It's understanding that my past could be wiped clean and I could be given a new birth. That despite all the evil I did He still loved me enough to die for me n desire a relationship with me. We've been bought and the price was His blood and our lives are not ours.
BacktoBasics
08-11-2023, 08:49 AM
Offset it wasn't the fear of hell, it was His loving grace n forgiveness. It's understanding that my past could be wiped clean and I could be given a new birth. That despite all the evil I did He still loved me enough to die for me n desire a relationship with me. We've been bought and the price was His blood and our lives are not ours.
Speak for yourself. My life is mine and you should respect that.
Joseph Kony
08-11-2023, 08:52 AM
Why did the ST atheist throw his watch out the window?
He wanted to see if it was designed intelligently enough to evolve into a bird.
lol you probably thought this was clever. you're an idiot
MultiTroll
08-11-2023, 09:51 AM
BacktoBasics comes home from a date looking rather sad.
Her mother asks her what’s wrong.
She says, “Joe Korny proposed to me an hour ago.”
Her mother asks, “Why are you so sad then?”
The girl replies, “Because he also told me he was an atheist. Mom, he doesn’t even believe there’s a hell.”
Her mother says, “Marry him anyway. Between the two of us, we’ll show him how wrong he is.”
BacktoBasics
08-11-2023, 11:32 AM
BacktoBasics comes home from a date looking rather sad.
Her mother asks her what’s wrong.
She says, “Joe Korny proposed to me an hour ago.”
Her mother asks, “Why are you so sad then?”
The girl replies, “Because he also told me he was an atheist. Mom, he doesn’t even believe there’s a hell.”
Her mother says, “Marry him anyway. Between the two of us, we’ll show him how wrong he is.”
Imagine thinking this is some kind insult. You have to be one of the dumbest least self aware fucking people here. You bitch and moan about your political bullshit, then backpedal as if you're going to stay on topic, then take another dump in the very same thread.
I'd suggest you grow up but I'm guessing you're well over 50.
offset formation
08-11-2023, 01:05 PM
Offset it wasn't the fear of hell, it was His loving grace n forgiveness. It's understanding that my past could be wiped clean and I could be given a new birth. That despite all the evil I did He still loved me enough to die for me n desire a relationship with me. We've been bought and the price was His blood and our lives are not ours.
Okie dokie then.
scott
08-11-2023, 06:40 PM
wtf am i reading
tonight...you
08-11-2023, 06:41 PM
wtf am i reading
This place gone sideways right now.
scott
08-11-2023, 06:45 PM
Even as the originator of the classic God Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2727&highlight=The%20God%20Thread), I find this one insultingly stupid.
tim_duncan_fan
08-12-2023, 05:26 AM
"traditional family values" :lol werent a bunch of the founders fucking slaves and breeding a bunch of bastard mulatto children that they didnt give a fuck about? this country was never founded on morals and values. lmao that people still believe that shit
They don't believe it. They just like saying it and enjoy the fact that voicing opposition to such nonsense is widely considered taboo.
tim_duncan_fan
08-12-2023, 05:45 AM
wtf am i reading
You're reading the result of TimVP and Kori's (the site founders) longstanding failure to moderate and curtail nazis on here.
The board is friendly to dumb shit, and so dumb shit collects here.
koriwhat
08-12-2023, 01:04 PM
Imagine thinking this is some kind insult. You have to be one of the dumbest least self aware fucking people here. You bitch and moan about your political bullshit, then backpedal as if you're going to stay on topic, then take another dump in the very same thread.
I'd suggest you grow up but I'm guessing you're well over 50.
You're a chick? No wonder you're so overly emotional here. It all makes sense now. Hey there's plenty of "men" here too with your same energy unfortunately. :lmao
koriwhat
08-12-2023, 01:05 PM
You're reading the result of TimVP and Kori's (the site founders) longstanding failure to moderate and curtail nazis on here.
The board is friendly to dumb shit, and so dumb shit collects here.
LMAO NAZIS! :lol:lmao:tu
koriwhat
08-12-2023, 01:07 PM
i never said i didnt enjoy some nice boy booty
Just like I thought... :lmao
koriwhat
08-12-2023, 01:09 PM
How did he get the Fauci ouchie in 99?
Hey boys we got a PimpOnABlimp fan here... Nice dog whistle bro! :lmao
Joseph Kony
08-12-2023, 02:13 PM
Just like I thought... :lmao
you know intimately well how i like to pound ass. you've been shitting pancakes for awhile babe
BacktoBasics
08-12-2023, 03:23 PM
Hey boys we got a PimpOnABlimp fan here... Nice dog whistle bro! :lmao
You’re so lonely. It’s embarrassingly transparent. But hey, whatcha gonna do when you don’t got enough money to get out of the house.
ismael-robert
08-12-2023, 03:39 PM
B2b...whatever ur or anyone's worldview is need to answer four questions...and do so where all four answers flow together and don't contradict (coherence)...where do we come from (origins)? What gives life meaning? How do we differentiate between good n bad (morality)? What happens when we die (destiny)? I'll throw in one extra, what legacy are u leaving behind (or with a progeny)?
BacktoBasics
08-12-2023, 04:41 PM
B2b...whatever ur or anyone's worldview is need to answer four questions...and do so where all four answers flow together and don't contradict (coherence)...where do we come from (origins)? What gives life meaning? How do we differentiate between good n bad (morality)? What happens when we die (destiny)? I'll throw in one extra, what legacy are u leaving behind (or with a progeny)?
I don’t need to answer any of these questions to know that it’s fundamentally wrong to use your religious beliefs to control the free will of others.
But I’ll address your point.
1. Doesn’t matter. I have no issue with those that don’t want to rule out a higher power but it’s definitely not a higher power in a religious sense. As depicted by western religion or really any other. That is a man made control device.
2. I don’t require meaning. Perhaps you do but that’s your shortcoming. I’m perfectly fine with our existence being the same as an ant. You’re here until you’re not.
3. I’m generally in agreement with collectively agreed upon law. Although flawed. What I don’t like is religious people using the wealth accumulated via organized religion to manipulate elected representatives in order to implement rules and laws that are contrary to what society supports.
4. Who cares. I’m dead. Nothing happens as far as we know. Until science breaks that barrier and provides new information I’m perfectly fine with the answer being nothing. There is no proof of afterlife and the only reason the concept exists is to control people with the threat of never ending pain and suffering. It’s bullshit and quite frankly should be illegal to teach. Heaven and Hell is the sickest form of indoctrination.
It has completely controlled your actions. You’re a victim of grooming and you don’t even know it. That is a huge societal problem.
5. My family generally subscribes to doing good because there is face value and meaning in helping others. Not because we fear hellfire and damnation.
koriwhat
08-13-2023, 02:37 PM
You’re so lonely. It’s embarrassingly transparent. But hey, whatcha gonna do when you don’t got enough money to get out of the house.
LMAO You continue on with your asinine assumptions because you're so hard up for your bs to come true. The only one lonely here is your pathetic bitch ass B2B. :lol
Keep crying over nothing you big pussy!
koriwhat
08-13-2023, 02:39 PM
5. My family generally subscribes to doing good because there is face value and meaning in helping others.
You're so full of shit and anyone with a brain can see how blackened your heart is. :lmao
BacktoBasics
08-13-2023, 02:56 PM
You're so full of shit and anyone with a brain can see how blackened your heart is. :lmao
When was the last time you saw your dad? Your real dad, not the guy railing your mom on the side.
koriwhat
08-13-2023, 02:58 PM
When was the last time you saw your dad? Your real dad, not the guy railing your mom on the side.
You stupid fucks only got grade school digs or what? Be more clever you fucking retard. :tu
BacktoBasics
08-13-2023, 05:36 PM
You stupid fucks only got grade school digs or what? Be more clever you fucking retard. :tu
Knowing that you’re traumatized because your dad is a deadbeat and your mom whored herself out with you in the other room truly negates any need for me to be clever.
You’re too stupid to seek help and work through your real world shit. You resort to going on a basketball forum to take your anger out on strangers and it’s fucking pathetic.
You’re an asshole. Not just here but a real life asshole. Go work on yourself. Stop dragging this place down because you haven’t learned how to cope like an adult.
Extra Stout
08-13-2023, 08:52 PM
Why would a just and loving God allow Bronny James to go into cardiac arrest?
Tyronn Lue
08-13-2023, 09:22 PM
Why would a just and loving God allow Bronny James to go into cardiac arrest?
Because his dad has "chosen one" tattooed across his back? The big guy has been known to take the 1st born male.
offset formation
08-13-2023, 11:12 PM
Why would a just and loving God allow Bronny James to go into cardiac arrest?
offset formation
08-13-2023, 11:13 PM
Because his dad has "chosen one" tattooed across his back? The big guy has been known to take the 1st born male.
Post more. Well played.
MultiTroll
08-14-2023, 02:32 PM
Why would a just and loving God allow Bronny James to go into cardiac arrest?
It's because the Great Dust Spect, which btw appeared out of nothing billions of years ago then eventually implanted on a spec that Bronny James would have a heart defect.
BacktoBasics
08-14-2023, 03:31 PM
It's because the Great Dust Spect, which btw appeared out of nothing billions of years ago then eventually implanted on a spec that Bronny James would have a heart defect.
Oh look your other personality is back. One minute you make an effort like a civilized adult and then poof. Here comes the maga fucktard that only koriwhat could love.
koriwhat
08-14-2023, 09:47 PM
Knowing that you’re traumatized because your dad is a deadbeat and your mom whored herself out with you in the other room truly negates any need for me to be clever.
You’re too stupid to seek help and work through your real world shit. You resort to going on a basketball forum to take your anger out on strangers and it’s fucking pathetic.
You’re an asshole. Not just here but a real life asshole. Go work on yourself. Stop dragging this place down because you haven’t learned how to cope like an adult.
I need help? Bro you're the one playing total make believe with your, "Knowing that you’re traumatized because your dad is a deadbeat and your mom whored herself out with you in the other room truly negates any need for me to be clever.", just because I hurt your feefee's you fucking pussy.
I'm an asshole? To who, you and other fucking retards here? Thanks for that badge of honor. :tu
Go fuck yourself you looney tunes retard!
koriwhat
08-14-2023, 09:49 PM
Oh look your other personality is back. One minute you make an effort like a civilized adult and then poof. Here comes the maga fucktard that only koriwhat could love.
You're so fucking stupid with your low iq and your single brain cell you actually think I give a fuck, let alone "love", MT. :lmao
That dude is as pathetic as your sorry ass B2B. :lol
MultiTroll
08-23-2023, 09:55 AM
Caleb White, star Alabama HS basketball player, dies after on-court collapse (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2023/08/11/caleb-white-star-alabama-hs-basketball-player-dies-after-on-court-collapse/)
“At 17, he was dead!!!!” Varnadoe wrote, adding that his grandson was an “honor student, very respectful, high intellect, excellent role model, phenomenal basketball player.”
“Our whole family was really looking forward to his upcoming senior season and afterwards, playing for a D-1 school and then perhaps the NBA. But…..it wasn’t meant to be,” the grieving grandfather added.
exstatic
08-23-2023, 10:17 AM
A former UH player just dropped dead at 23, also. I think it was last week.
MultiTroll
08-23-2023, 10:26 AM
Reggie Chaney, former Houston Cougars men's basketball player, dies at 23 - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38241763/reggie-chaney-former-houston-cougars-men-basketball-player-dies-23)
Sampson added that Chaney was due to leave Aug. 28, to begin a professional career in Greece.
Why would a just and loving God allow Bronny James to go into cardiac arrest?
The almighty guy is too busy helping Putin pulverize kids in UKraine with his missiles. There's a reason for everything after all...
But prayers for the 10K civilians who died under the shellings.
koriwhat
08-23-2023, 02:12 PM
Too bad this shit couldn't happen to the handful of losers heree on ST that follow me around. :lol
ismael-robert
08-23-2023, 06:24 PM
https://www.gcu.edu/blog/theology-ministry/theology-thursday-purpose-suffering
https://billygraham.org/story/suffering-why-does-god-allow-it/
https://youtu.be/EHm6XlDPLOk?si=GZeJvX6iAinZn7Dy
https://www.gotquestions.org/God-allow-evil.html
https://youtu.be/y73H8A92sn0?si=kYsjvfLjEFuYREPx (two min 45 sec answer here)
ismael-robert
08-23-2023, 06:55 PM
The Christian has to account for the existence of unjust suffering, the atheist has to account for the existence of everything else.
offset formation
08-23-2023, 07:14 PM
The Christian has to account for unjust suffering, the atheist has to account for everything else.
Define everything else please. Unjust suffering pretty much encompasses everything from poverty to illness...
I'll take the everything else, everyday and twice on Sundays.
MultiTroll
08-25-2023, 07:34 PM
Bronny James' cardiac arrest caused by congenital heart defect - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38260006/bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-caused-congenital-heart-defect)
"It is an anatomically and functionally significant Congenital Heart Defect which can and will be treated," the James family said in their statement. "We are very confident in Bronny's full recovery and return to basketball in the very near future. We will continue to provide updates to media and respectfully reiterate the family's request for privacy."
I think the dream of Bronny James and Lebron joining the Spurs for vet minimum and coming off the bench to feed the ball to Wama in Championship runs is over.
But good to see the kid is alive and functioning.
BacktoBasics
08-25-2023, 07:41 PM
Bronny James' cardiac arrest caused by congenital heart defect - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/38260006/bronny-james-cardiac-arrest-caused-congenital-heart-defect)
"It is an anatomically and functionally significant Congenital Heart Defect which can and will be treated," the James family said in their statement. "We are very confident in Bronny's full recovery and return to basketball in the very near future. We will continue to provide updates to media and respectfully reiterate the family's request for privacy."
I think the dream of Bronny James and Lebron joining the Spurs for vet minimum and coming off the bench to feed the ball to Wama in Championship runs is over.
But good to see the kid is alive and functioning.
I hope you and the other pieces of shit of here feel dumb as fuck. Time and time again you people look like the most idiotic segment of society. Then fail to learn anything and repeat the stupidity.
MultiTroll
08-25-2023, 07:56 PM
^ shitstain poster yet again with nothing to add to the Bronny James condition.
As exstatic notes re you:
I have most of the 'tards on ignore, and have been forced to add you today, because of this. I don't want to see their shit splattered on my screen, and you do just that, and it's also exactly what they want.
BacktoBasics
08-25-2023, 08:06 PM
^ shitstain poster yet again with nothing to add to the Bronny James condition.
As exstatic notes re you:
I was pretty clear that you politically driven assholes won’t learn shit after finding out that it was congenital rather than the lies you people spread.
Don’t you ever feel stupid after the truth comes out? Any remorse?
Then you want to get on your high horse like you’re some valued contributor? Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
MultiTroll
08-25-2023, 08:10 PM
I was pretty clear that you politically driven assholes won’t learn shit after finding out that it was congenital rather than the lies you people spread.
I made no such comment about Bronnys condition being political.
You can surely cut n post if i did, right?
You, shitstain poster shall serve as nothing more then thread bumper for the remainder of this thread.
That is a command. Chop chop.
BacktoBasics
08-25-2023, 08:57 PM
I made no such comment about Bronnys condition being political.
You can surely cut n post if i did, right?
You, shitstain poster shall serve as nothing more then thread bumper for the remainder of this thread.
That is a command. Chop chop.
You are exactly what I say you are.
dbestpro
08-27-2023, 01:28 PM
The truth is is congenital condition went unnoticed all these years until it was exacerbated but something else. Could have been COVID, could have been the vaccine. Could have been something else. None of this is political cause it was created while the right was in charged and pushed while the left was in charge.
MultiTroll
12-01-2023, 10:13 AM
LeBron says Bronny's USC debut to take precedence over Lakers game - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39018418/lebron-says-bronny-usc-debut-take-precedence-lakers-game)
Obstructed_View
12-01-2023, 10:36 AM
The truth is is congenital condition went unnoticed all these years until it was exacerbated but something else. Could have been COVID, could have been the vaccine. Could have been something else. None of this is political cause it was created while the right was in charged and pushed while the left was in charge.
All those young people dying of heart attacks. Could have been this, could have been that. Who knows? New commercials tell us that young people have always died of heart attacks so that's good enough for me, and I'd appreciate it if you stop being political by noticing things, you fascist.
ducks
12-05-2023, 12:01 AM
LeBron says Bronny's USC debut to take precedence over Lakers game - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39018418/lebron-says-bronny-usc-debut-take-precedence-lakers-game)
Oh he wants his son to play
Get killed playing and then sue the school
James bad daddy
BacktoBasics
12-05-2023, 12:47 AM
Oh he wants his son to play
Get killed playing and then sue the school
James bad daddy
You are easily the dumbest fucking person here. It is exactly why your son is dead. Your stupidity is unbelievable. You’d think losing a kid would wake you up. But it’s done the opposite. Too bad it wasn’t you instead of him.
MultiTroll
12-05-2023, 12:52 AM
Oh he wants his son to play
Get killed playing and then sue the school
James bad daddy
What makes you think James hasn't consulted with the best doctors available and is making an informed choice?
You think he want's to make more money off some scam, with his own son's death being the trigger?
Come up with something to support this or GTFOH.
lefty
12-05-2023, 09:58 AM
Better father than Larry Bird
Ed Helicopter Jones
12-05-2023, 12:41 PM
So I guess we'll be adding Bronny and Lebron to the roster soon. Sweet.
lefty
12-05-2023, 01:36 PM
So I guess we'll be adding Bronny and Lebron to the roster soon. Sweet.
And LeCoach as a Pop replacment :D
MultiTroll
03-02-2024, 10:03 PM
The James' have readjusted the goals. Of course Bronny will have to pass all the health tests.
USC Trojans freshman guard Bronny James is expected to weigh his entry into the 2024 NBA draft based on specific team interest, not draft position, Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul told ESPN on Saturday.
"I don't value a young player getting into the lottery as much as I do getting him on the right team in the right developmental situation," Paul told ESPN on Saturday.
What's more, Paul said, the right team doesn't necessarily equate with landing on a roster with his father, LeBron James -- although LeBron James would be "head over heels excited if that were to happen organically," Paul said.
"LeBron wants Bronny to be his own man," Paul told ESPN.
After suffering a cardiac arrest in a July workout at USC, Bronny James was diagnosed with a congenital heart defect that sidelined him for nearly five months. He was cleared to resume his career, made his USC debut on Dec. 11 and has averaged 5.2 points, 2.8 rebounds and 2.4 assists in nearly 20 minutes a game.
Before the serious heart episode and the long layoff, James had been expected to be a major contributor for the Trojans this season. Out of Sierra Canyon High School, ESPN draft analyst Jonathan Givony had James ranked in the top 15 of the 2024 NBA draft class.
Because of his heart condition, James will also have to be evaluated and approved by the NBA Fitness to Play Panel. The 2025 NBA draft class is considered much stronger than the 2024 class, which could also be part of the James' calculus on the proper timing to enter the draft.
Rich Paul - Bronny James's '24 draft call based on team interest - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39642311/bronny-james-decide-2024-draft-based-team-interest)
scott
03-02-2024, 11:49 PM
^Translation: there are a lot of Teams LeBron ain't going to... so we need to just make that clear.
sfernald
03-03-2024, 03:02 AM
All those young people dying of heart attacks. Could have been this, could have been that. Who knows? New commercials tell us that young people have always died of heart attacks so that's good enough for me, and I'd appreciate it if you stop being political by noticing things, you fascist.
I’ve always heard stories that USC is full of rich kids who are snorting coke like other kids down soda pops. That’s not something college players would use to get an edge during games is it as a performance enhancer? I couldn’t help but wonder after hearing all that talk for so many years.
MultiTroll
04-05-2024, 11:03 AM
So his recovery continues, being in the NBA draft while keeping his college options open.
Yet entered the portal, transferring from USC as Plan B.
USC's Bronny James entering NBA draft, transfer portal - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39879943/usc-bronny-james-entering-nba-draft-transfer-portal)
Knoxxx
04-05-2024, 11:34 AM
Sounds like a no brainer to add LeBron for the vets minimum and Bronny to Austin Spurs with the chance for the occasional call up to hang out with Daddles.
Tyronn Lue
04-05-2024, 11:37 AM
I'd put Bronny in the rotation over Malaki if for nothing else than the media exposure (and maybe getting Lebron) but Lakers are on top of it.
slick'81
04-05-2024, 12:27 PM
Wnba maybe
spurs1990
04-05-2024, 12:40 PM
James would be worth a 2nd rounder if San Antonio has abundance of them this year
spursparker9
04-05-2024, 12:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUWN_zCzrvU
KobesAchilles
04-05-2024, 01:31 PM
I'd take him 1st overall. Wemby + Bron = championship 6
MultiTroll
04-05-2024, 01:37 PM
Sounds like a no brainer to add LeBron for the vets minimum and Bronny to Austin Spurs with the chance for the occasional call up to hang out with Daddles.
I'd put Bronny in the rotation over Malaki if for nothing else than the media exposure (and maybe getting Lebron) but Lakers are on top of it.
100 no brainer.
Lebron is a 10 million times upgrade over anyone on the Spurs roster to help Wama.
Additionally would cock block the Lakers from getting him in the 2nd R.
Q is how badly does Lebron want to play with Bronny.
Rosewood
04-05-2024, 05:24 PM
I'd take him 1st overall. Wemby + Bron = championship 6 :lol can you imagine that scenario? Lebron comes over to the spurs and wins a chip with Wemby for his son as a swan song to his career. Major mixed feelings from some Spurs fans.
Honestly, he probably wouldn't even retire if that happened. No reason to not try and match Jordan with a repeat at that point.
Tyronn Lue
04-05-2024, 09:36 PM
:lol can you imagine that scenario? Lebron comes over to the spurs and wins a chip with Wemby for his son as a swan song to his career. Major mixed feelings from some Spurs fans.
Honestly, he probably wouldn't even retire if that happened. No reason to not try and match Jordan with a repeat at that point.
No mixed feelings. Ring is king.
Knoxxx
04-06-2024, 12:12 PM
:lol can you imagine that scenario? Lebron comes over to the spurs and wins a chip with Wemby for his son as a swan song to his career. Major mixed feelings from some Spurs fans.
Honestly, he probably wouldn't even retire if that happened. No reason to not try and match Jordan with a repeat at that point.
It is not Lebron's fault we choked away a championship. He's always been super respectful of the Spurs and what he's doing at age 40 is incredible.
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