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spursparker9
07-26-2023, 07:41 AM
https://www.kens5.com/article/sports/nba/spurs/nba-center-says-spurs-victor-wembanyama-ceiling-shawn-bradley-nb-san-antonio/273-1547edb7-5709-44fe-84c3-9192686d701e

CorrectCrusader
07-26-2023, 07:55 AM
Shawn Bradleys career high is 32. Yeah I think Vics ceiling is a bit higher

dbestpro
07-26-2023, 07:59 AM
Dudes are just click bait trolling. Stupid takes get the views. That's all they are doing. It's all about marketing. If they won't show up to listen to your good takes then make them show to attack your bad takes.

ambchang
07-26-2023, 08:17 AM
He’s still mad he was on the wrong end of one of the worst trades in nba history.

exstatic
07-26-2023, 08:20 AM
:rollin Olden Polynice impersonator?

Rocalcio
07-26-2023, 08:56 AM
Not surprised either by Hardaway’s take, he’s been saying dumb things for years now. And you can see it’s all about disrespecting Wembanyama when he says « Victor or whatever his name is ».

I liked Hardaway as a player, but as a human being he’s just worthless.

CGD
07-26-2023, 09:32 AM
The great Olden Polynice speaks

KingKev
07-26-2023, 09:35 AM
VW has a target on his back no doubt but man some of these old heads are pathetic.

Tyronn Lue
07-26-2023, 09:36 AM
The great Olden Polynice speaks
Spurs fan is likely the easiest troll in the NBA.

exstatic
07-26-2023, 09:46 AM
Not surprised either by Hardaway’s take, he’s been saying dumb things for years now. And you can see it’s all about disrespecting Wembanyama when he says « Victor or whatever his name is ».

I liked Hardaway as a player, but as a human being he’s just worthless.

There are lots of celebs and athletes that are supremely good at what they do AND horrible people.

exstatic
07-26-2023, 09:53 AM
Spurs fan is likely the easiest troll in the NBA.

I don't feel trolled, and I think a lot of others don't, either. Polynice is too stupid to troll, more like just a shitty hot take. We're laughing at him.

jjspur
07-26-2023, 10:31 AM
Bradley was what they call a big white stiff who could barely walk and chew gum at the same time. Injured a lot as well. Wemby is fluid and can actually dribble and shoot. Its just click bait for the gullible.

BacktoBasics
07-26-2023, 10:59 AM
Not surprised either by Hardaway’s take, he’s been saying dumb things for years now. And you can see it’s all about disrespecting Wembanyama when he says « Victor or whatever his name is ».

I liked Hardaway as a player, but as a human being he’s just worthless.
He really could have had a nice career post NBA but he just couldn’t keep himself from spouting off. He had a big personality but not the intelligence.

baseline bum
07-26-2023, 11:37 AM
LOL from the guy whose biggest career accomplishment is getting traded for Scottie Pippen.

baseline bum
07-26-2023, 11:39 AM
He really could have had a nice career post NBA but he just couldn’t keep himself from spouting off. He had a big personality but not the intelligence.

Hardaway was pretty awful when ESPN hired him to do their halftime shows. I think he only lasted a week or two before getting the axe.

KingKev
07-26-2023, 11:48 AM
Bradley was what they call a big white stiff who could barely walk and chew gum at the same time. Injured a lot as well. Wemby is fluid and can actually dribble and shoot. Its just click bait for the gullible.

Shawn Bradley was actually quite durable and put size on when he got into the league so he could bang with the likes of guys like Ewing, Robinson, Zo, Shaq, Hakeem.

baseline bum
07-26-2023, 11:50 AM
Still, don't know why KENS-5 thinks the opinions of Olden Polynice and Tim Hardaway on the topic of Wemby are newsworthy.

Mugen
07-26-2023, 12:04 PM
:lol Olden Polynice, Mr. Officer himself tbh

daslicer
07-26-2023, 12:06 PM
Hardaway was pretty awful when ESPN hired him to do their halftime shows. I think he only lasted a week or two before getting the axe.

He lasted a month or two before they axed him, but I do remember he was terrible to the point it actually became laughable hearing him talk.

jjspur
07-26-2023, 12:48 PM
Shawn Bradley was actually quite durable and put size on when he got into the league so he could bang with the likes of guys like Ewing, Robinson, Zo, Shaq, Hakeem.

Ewing, Robinson, Zo, Shaq, & Hakeem were at one point multiple season all stars. Bradley averaged 8 points and 6 rebounds for his career. I dare say Wemby will easily have a better career than Bradley no matter what Polynice says.
I'm a wait and see kind of guy when it comes to Wemby. Superstar, can't say this early ..All star probably, average or better NBA player for sure, but better than Bradley definitely ! Polynice needs a new job.

spurs10
07-26-2023, 12:53 PM
Hardaway is a low-brow guy who reveals himself when he speaks.

Seventyniner
07-26-2023, 01:01 PM
Hardaway is a low-brow guy who reveals himself when he speaks.

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than open one's mouth and remove all doubt."

KingKev
07-26-2023, 01:18 PM
Ewing, Robinson, Zo, Shaq, & Hakeem were at one point multiple season all stars. Bradley averaged 8 points and 6 rebounds for his career. I dare say Wemby will easily have a better career than Bradley no matter what Polynice says.
I'm a wait and see kind of guy when it comes to Wemby. Superstar, can't say this early ..All star probably, average or better NBA player for sure, but better than Bradley definitely ! Polynice needs a new job.

And Bruce Bowen averaged like 6 and 3.

My point was that Bradley was DURABLE and while not a superstar he was not a bust during a very different era. Regardless I do not agree with the comparison

J_Paco
07-26-2023, 01:34 PM
And Bruce Bowen averaged like 6 and 3.

My point was that Bradley was DURABLE and while not a superstar he was not a bust during a very different era. Regardless I do not agree with the comparison

Actually, Bradley was considered a huge bust - he was the 2nd overall pick after all - and only hung onto a starting NBA job because of his height plus shot blocking ability.

Plus, comparing a NBA journeyman's career (who was an elite role player in one area) to a guy drafted 2nd overall is ridiculous.

Regardless, Wemby will be better than either Polynice or Bradley ever was.

Hardaway's take is moronic since Bol Bol has been in the league for 4 years, so of course he SHOULD BE ready to contribute faster. Wemby has a higher ceiling than Bol (obviously), but the similar sizes and games make it an easy "comparison."

scott
07-26-2023, 01:38 PM
Well, it's better than his ceiling being Olden Polynice.

LittleCriminal
07-26-2023, 01:45 PM
I wonder how Shawn Bradley would do with today's nba rules..
His best season in 97 was 14ppg 9reb 3blks..

J_Paco
07-26-2023, 01:45 PM
I'm watching the interview and it's a bad look when Chris Broussard has a smarter, more rationale take than Polynice. LMAO

J_Paco
07-26-2023, 01:46 PM
I wonder how Shawn Bradley would do with today's nba rules..

He would still suck and would be worse since he'd have to defend on the floor a lot more.

LittleCriminal
07-26-2023, 01:52 PM
He would still suck and would be worse since he'd have to defend on the floor a lot more.

That's prob true..
Wemby can do all those things you list though..
so the comparisons to Bradley according to ur statement are invalid..

J_Paco
07-26-2023, 02:06 PM
That's prob true..
Wemby can do all those things you list though..
so the comparisons to Bradley according to ur statement are invalid..

Wemby will likely struggle at times with the physicality and athleticism of the NBA (much like Kevin Durant did his first season), but I expect him to put up similar numbers to rookie Porzingis or Bradley's best season ever.

And there really is no comparison between Wemby and Bradley. Bradley never showed even 1/100th of the offensive skills Wemby possesses. Plus, Wemby can defend in space and has much better lateral quickness.

Only an imbecile like Polynice would make that comparison based solely on their similar sizes (not games).

cd98
07-26-2023, 02:14 PM
Hey, no reason to diss on Bradley. He was a good player in the NBA and but for a dislocated knee cap in his second season that robbed him of some of his mobility, he probably would have been at least a one or two time all star. He certainly was a great shot blocker.

That aside, we don't know what Wemby will be. It could be that his body doesn't hold up in the NBA. It could be that his skills don't translate to the NBA. It could be that he is a good player, but that the Thompson brothers are the ones that become the stars of the draft. It could be that Wemby becomes an all-time great. That's the fun of debating his potential and frankly, he has the potential to be better than anyone that has played the game with his size. That's why he was drafted number one, because if he hits, then it would dramatically alter the future of the franchise. If he doesn't, then it is what it is.

J_Paco
07-26-2023, 02:25 PM
Hey, no reason to diss on Bradley. He was a good player in the NBA and but for a dislocated knee cap in his second season that robbed him of some of his mobility, he probably would have been at least a one or two time all star. He certainly was a great shot blocker.

That aside, we don't know what Wemby will be. It could be that his body doesn't hold up in the NBA. It could be that his skills don't translate to the NBA. It could be that he is a good player, but that the Thompson brothers are the ones that become the stars of the draft. It could be that Wemby becomes an all-time great. That's the fun of debating his potential and frankly, he has the potential to be better than anyone that has played the game with his size. That's why he was drafted number one, because if he hits, then it would dramatically alter the future of the franchise. If he doesn't, then it is what it is.

Just, no. Bradley was never going to be an All-Star in an era with Hakeem, David, Dikembe, Patrick, Alonzo, Shaq, etc. (I'm forgetting someone) all taking up more votes.

He was 7'5" (with shoes) yet only shot over 50% once in his NBA career. Yeah, comparing any big man prospect to Shawn Bradley's pedestrian career his an insult.

He was a massive bust that was only saved a NBA career because of his elite shot-blocking ability. Kind of like comparing a prospect to another bust in Olden Polynice.

exstatic
07-26-2023, 02:36 PM
It's funny that O.P. thinks it's some sort of sick burn to compare him to Shawn Bradley, when O.P. was Shawn Bradley, minus the tremendous shot blocking.

cd98
07-26-2023, 05:16 PM
Just, no. Bradley was never going to be an All-Star in an era with Hakeem, David, Dikembe, Patrick, Alonzo, Shaq, etc. (I'm forgetting someone) all taking up more votes.

He was 7'5" (with shoes) yet only shot over 50% once in his NBA career. Yeah, comparing any big man prospect to Shawn Bradley's pedestrian career his an insult.

He was a massive bust that was only saved a NBA career because of his elite shot-blocking ability. Kind of like comparing a prospect to another bust in Olden Polynice.

To label him a bust is ridiculous. He played 12 years in the NBA. A bust doesn't last that long. And he was legit athletic and had a ton of potential, but he dislocated his knee cap in his second season. He wasn't the same player after that injury. He had a good touch and was mobile for his size. I think Wemby has more skills than Bradley did coming into the league, including more range on a jumper and better dribbling skills, but people underrate how good he was because a lot of players dunked on him (and he blocked many of them too). Tim had great games against Dallas, but one of the better defensive schemes they had Bradley on the backside and Dirk fronting in that made it difficult for Tim on the block to do his thing.

I met Bradley once when he played in Dallas way back when I lived there. I was a die hard Spurs fan, but he was a nice guy and when I heard about him being hit by a car while biking and being paralyzed, it really felt for him. So I'll defend him since most people won't. Mind you, I don't think he is an all-time great, but knee injuries like what he got has derailed many careers. Antonio McDyess comes to memory. We know him as a bruiser, but pre-knee injury, he was a high flying monster that did some amazing things as an athlete. He, like Bradley, became a bruiser post injury.

J_Paco
07-26-2023, 05:24 PM
To label him a bust is ridiculous. He played 12 years in the NBA. A bust doesn't last that long. And he was legit athletic and had a ton of potential, but he dislocated his knee cap in his second season. He wasn't the same player after that injury. He had a good touch and was mobile for his size. I think Wemby has more skills than Bradley did coming into the league, including more range on a jumper and better dribbling skills, but people underrate how good he was because a lot of players dunked on him (and he blocked many of them too). Tim had great games against Dallas, but one of the better defensive schemes they had Bradley on the backside and Dirk fronting in that made it difficult for Tim on the block to do his thing.

I met Bradley once when he played in Dallas way back when I lived there. I was a die hard Spurs fan, but he was a nice guy and when I heard about him being hit by a car while biking and being paralyzed, it really felt for him. So I'll defend him since most people won't. Mind you, I don't think he is an all-time great, but knee injuries like what he got has derailed many careers. Antonio McDyess comes to memory. We know him as a bruiser, but pre-knee injury, he was a high flying monster that did some amazing things as an athlete. He, like Bradley, became a bruiser post injury.

If you are drafted in the topic 5 overall, yet never make even one All-Star team then, yes, you are a bust. Ben Simmons has had a much, much better NBA career in comparison to Bradley, yet is being labeled a "bust" after losing his confidence (plus multiple back issues).

Bradley was supposed to be the original "unicorn" (not as far as perimeter scoring, but being an elite force on both ends at an immense size), but ended up being nothing more then a shot-blocking specialist.

Again, bust.

And this is saying nothing about his difficulties in his post-career life. I wouldn't wish that upon any person and hope for the best in his current situation.

Philthemage
07-26-2023, 05:50 PM
:rollin Olden Polynice impersonator?

Funny that is the only thing I remember about him

Obstructed_View
07-26-2023, 06:18 PM
Bradley was better than most people say, but I'd bet that Wemby puts up better than Bradley's career per-36 averages this year. 12-10-1-4

CGD
07-26-2023, 06:30 PM
Wow, looks like he was drafted in 87 by the Bulls who then traded him to the Sonics for Scottie Pippen in the same draft.

jjspur
07-26-2023, 07:06 PM
Don't think anyone is hating on Bradley, but most people would probably agree that Wemby's caree might look closer to Kristap Porzingas than to Shawn Bradley's. Polynice should have known better before he opened up his mouth.

Leetonidas
07-26-2023, 07:16 PM
Lol at all the old heads recently trying to disrespect Wemby in an attempt to make themselves relevant with their hot takes. Shits pathetic

slick'81
07-26-2023, 07:51 PM
Olden polynice:lol what is this '95?

tmtcsc
07-27-2023, 11:38 AM
Wemby appears fragile and weak. He was getting pushed around on the floor and it was honestly concerning. However, the French league is no joke and very physical. Had it not been for Wemby's first, underwhelming summer league game, I'd feel better about him. I'm hoping and believe SL Game 2 is more likely what we'll see from him. As for Olden Polynice, Barkley & Hardaway...their opinions are just that. They don't know, no one really knows how Wemby will do in the NBA. It'll be fun watching him.

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-27-2023, 12:32 PM
I think it’s funny when these old NBA players are saying “the stuff that Works in Europe isn’t going to work in the NBA.”

The NBA is the “hands off” league now. You get a flagrant for pushing someone in the back. Shaq might not make it in today’s NBA. Victor is going to do fine here and his game will translate well, extremely well. I think he’s coming in when the league needs a new superstar, and I believe he’s going to fill that role.

I think some of these idiots are basing their comments on two summer league games and they’ve never actually seen the kid play.

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-27-2023, 12:34 PM
Why is the local news even carrying the story? They must be starved for information to report.

redman112
07-27-2023, 08:02 PM
old folks please please just stay irrelevant

Spurs Homer
07-28-2023, 08:19 AM
I can't believe I wasted five minutes of my life on account of

Oldass Polyscrub!


:lol:lol

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-31-2023, 03:09 PM
The Bradley comparison probably applies more to Chet than Wemby. Truth is, SB would be pretty good in today's NBA. He was dealing with the beasts in the middle in his time. Now the league is all about stick figures shooting 3's. Bradley would be great.

spurraider21
07-31-2023, 03:21 PM
The Bradley comparison probably applies more to Chet than Wemby. Truth is, SB would be pretty good in today's NBA. He was dealing with the beasts in the middle in his time. Now the league is all about stick figures shooting 3's. Bradley would be great.
the comp applies poorly to both, but particularly to chet. chet is 7'1, he's not in the bradley/eaton/yao/wemby/bol tier of height. 7'1 is obviously tall but within the range of normal for centers.

bradley had no offensive skill to speak of. its kind of an absurd comparison to either player

Ed Helicopter Jones
07-31-2023, 03:46 PM
the comp applies poorly to both, but particularly to chet. chet is 7'1, he's not in the bradley/eaton/yao/wemby/bol tier of height. 7'1 is obviously tall but within the range of normal for centers.

bradley had no offensive skill to speak of. its kind of an absurd comparison to either player

I watched Bradley a lot in college and was shocked he went second overall in the draft. His height fooled people into thinking he'd be great.

MultiTroll
07-31-2023, 04:58 PM
Were there some stupid shits saying Timmy Duncan would never amount to much of an NBA player?

buttsR4rebounding
08-01-2023, 02:36 AM
Olden polynice:lol what is this '95?

The original OP.

spurraider21
10-10-2023, 11:14 AM
good to know wemby has already reached his ceiling

Ed Helicopter Jones
10-10-2023, 01:46 PM
Yeah, that ceiling was broken in Wemby's first preseason game.

buttsR4rebounding
10-10-2023, 07:12 PM
At least he didn’t set the bar really low and say he ceiling is Olden Polynice