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07-30-2023, 05:57 PM
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He beat Kobe narrowly, 51% to 49%, which is amazing considering Kobe's god tier status in China
Won 5 rings with the least amount of high draft picks, all-stars, all-NBA's, and luxury tax dollars per ring. Someday people will look back and see how absurd it is to win 5 rings for a small budget team like San Antonio, and that franchise, Popovich included, really is nothing special without Tim
Only player to beat two first-team all-NBA to ring without any all-NBA on his own team. 2003 vs Shaq/Kobe, 2007 vs Nash/Amare. It is absolutely insane that Hakeem was the only other player to accomplish this one-time in 1994 vs Stockton and Malone (in 1995 he had Drexler who was third team all-NBA)
He is wins before $tats, allows teammates to play the way they are most comfortable to play, maximizes their strength, and do things his teammates can't do. Parker and Ginobili really wouldn't have had the same career without a superstar willing to set screens for them and watch them make mistakes to grow. Never cared about his own $tats.
Like Bill Russell, not a spectacular 1v1 player for an all-time great, but he offers so much intangibles in a 5v5 setting, understands how to maximize his impact on both end of the floor more than anyone else. The ultimate top lane in League of Legends, tank in Overwatch, it is not about kills, it is about positioning, situation awareness, doing the right thing at right time. He offers more than Shaq and Hakeem in a 5v5 setting even if he most likely loses to both 1v1.
1000 wins with same franchise, never missed playoffs, even during rebuild windows
12-5 finals record vs LeBron, beat LeBron in his prime when he was 38 years old, and have 1 extra ring. Imagine if Bird beat MJ when he was late 30's and won more rings overall, nobody in their right mind will think MJ is higher rated than Bird
Kobe also got very favorable ratings.
Doesn't pass tough shots at end of clock to role players to pad his stats, so while his personal TS doesn't look as pretty as say, LeBron, his team is more effective overall
Shaq is overrated as a main carry, he was swept more times than any other all-time greats, and he had very strong teams without Kobe. Yes with the right position, he is completely unstoppable, but to get him the ball in the right position against traps, fronts and double teams is not easy. He needs a scorer who can digest high number of positions, checks opponent's best guards to cover for his weakness to pick-and-roll. 01/02 Lakers was absolutely 1A and 1B especially during the tougher part of the playoffs in the western conference
True two-way player, shuts down opposing stars, doesn't rest on defense
Back-to-back rings and three straight finals appearances with only Paul Gasol (third team all-NBA), a very modest roster compared to LeBron/KD teams. Paul was also given way more room to play the game he excels at, compared to say Bosh/Love
So, what do you think?
He beat Kobe narrowly, 51% to 49%, which is amazing considering Kobe's god tier status in China
Won 5 rings with the least amount of high draft picks, all-stars, all-NBA's, and luxury tax dollars per ring. Someday people will look back and see how absurd it is to win 5 rings for a small budget team like San Antonio, and that franchise, Popovich included, really is nothing special without Tim
Only player to beat two first-team all-NBA to ring without any all-NBA on his own team. 2003 vs Shaq/Kobe, 2007 vs Nash/Amare. It is absolutely insane that Hakeem was the only other player to accomplish this one-time in 1994 vs Stockton and Malone (in 1995 he had Drexler who was third team all-NBA)
He is wins before $tats, allows teammates to play the way they are most comfortable to play, maximizes their strength, and do things his teammates can't do. Parker and Ginobili really wouldn't have had the same career without a superstar willing to set screens for them and watch them make mistakes to grow. Never cared about his own $tats.
Like Bill Russell, not a spectacular 1v1 player for an all-time great, but he offers so much intangibles in a 5v5 setting, understands how to maximize his impact on both end of the floor more than anyone else. The ultimate top lane in League of Legends, tank in Overwatch, it is not about kills, it is about positioning, situation awareness, doing the right thing at right time. He offers more than Shaq and Hakeem in a 5v5 setting even if he most likely loses to both 1v1.
1000 wins with same franchise, never missed playoffs, even during rebuild windows
12-5 finals record vs LeBron, beat LeBron in his prime when he was 38 years old, and have 1 extra ring. Imagine if Bird beat MJ when he was late 30's and won more rings overall, nobody in their right mind will think MJ is higher rated than Bird
Kobe also got very favorable ratings.
Doesn't pass tough shots at end of clock to role players to pad his stats, so while his personal TS doesn't look as pretty as say, LeBron, his team is more effective overall
Shaq is overrated as a main carry, he was swept more times than any other all-time greats, and he had very strong teams without Kobe. Yes with the right position, he is completely unstoppable, but to get him the ball in the right position against traps, fronts and double teams is not easy. He needs a scorer who can digest high number of positions, checks opponent's best guards to cover for his weakness to pick-and-roll. 01/02 Lakers was absolutely 1A and 1B especially during the tougher part of the playoffs in the western conference
True two-way player, shuts down opposing stars, doesn't rest on defense
Back-to-back rings and three straight finals appearances with only Paul Gasol (third team all-NBA), a very modest roster compared to LeBron/KD teams. Paul was also given way more room to play the game he excels at, compared to say Bosh/Love
So, what do you think?