Frost Bank Center

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/KSATRJ/status/1686125341100716034

[Chinook]

I wonder how the compensation compares to what AT&T was paying.

[heyheymymy]

From the jersey patch to the arena naming rights since the change to Self

[CorrectCrusader]

Needs a better name. There's gotta be something we could come up with.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't like change but I welcome this change because Frost Bank is synonymous with San Antonio through and through, whereas AT&T is a generic way-too-big multinational telecom company that should probably get the 1910s Standard Oil antitrust treatment by the government tbh.

[Leetonidas]

Needs a better name. There's gotta be something we could come up with.

Frost Bank Arena sounds good enough to me

[heyheymymy]

Guess George Gervin should be at the ribbon cutting ceremony?

[SpursWoman]

Weird no longer being the AT&T Center after all of these years, but sounds fine.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Weird no longer being the AT&T Center after all of these years, but sounds fine.

I loved SBC Center. SBC/ Southwestern Bell was regional and the acronym loosely stood for "Spurs Basketball Court" center or something like that. AT&T was a sellout. Never liked that change from when it was implemented in 05-06.

[Extra Stout]

Pollos Asados Los Norteños Center

[baseline bum]

They could call it the Jack Off Center for all I give a shit. As long as Wemby kicks some ass on that floor I'm good.

[baseline bum]

Pollos Asados Los Norteños Center

Would be nice to have them in the building instead of Whataburger

[slick'81]

Meh, dont care as long as we get a new arena eventually

[Mr. Body]

Better than Crypto Arena.

[The Whopper]

I don't like change but I welcome this change because Frost Bank is synonymous with San Antonio through and through, whereas AT&T is a generic way-too-big multinational telecom company that should probably get the 1910s Standard Oil antitrust treatment by the government tbh.

That already happened four decades ago.

[Millennial_Messiah]

That already happened four decades ago.

yeah, and then they reverted back

overall I believe Mergers are the great cancer of capitalism and should be blocked by the government. It's the government's job to enforce and promote small business and never let one business get too big.

[Dex]

yeah, and then they reverted back

overall I believe Mergers are the great cancer of capitalism and should be blocked by the government. It's the government's job to enforce and promote small business and never let one business get too big.

:lmao Okay, boomer.

[rjv]

Guess George Gervin should be at the ribbon cutting ceremony?

the "ice house"?

[ambchang]

yeah, and then they reverted back

overall I believe Mergers are the great cancer of capitalism and should be blocked by the government. It's the government's job to enforce and promote small business and never let one business get too big.

Isn't this what the Republicans are against? Why do you support them?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Isn't this what the Republicans are against? Why do you support them?

It's what the establishment GOP and establishment Dems are against and it's what the populist classical liberals and Trump-wing populist conservatives are for. I stand for nationalist populism, dissolution of monopoly/oligopoly, more tariffs and less free trade, i.e. populism on economic issues and libertarianism on social issues.

[rjv]

what was this thread about again?

[heyheymymy]

they call it frost bank cause Victor has ice water in his veins when he goes glass




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSDJZL4Cap0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bkH5w4m08A

[heyheymymy]

actually Frost Bank Center aka FBC kinda reminds me of the old SBC Center name 02-06 before AT&T took over.

[Larry O]

actually Frost Bank Center aka FBC kinda reminds me of the old SBC Center name 02-06 before AT&T took over.

Yeah, I'm starting to like this! And if they use the alternate name, FBC, it will give it that throwback feel to it! I always wondered why Frost Bank or HEB, could claim naming rights to the arena. But Frost Bank is great, especially with the history connection with the Spurs. This makes this puro San Antonio, baby! GSG!!!

[Knoxxx]

Isn't this what the Republicans are against? Why do you support them?

Small govt for me, not for thee, LOL

[Knoxxx]

AT&T sucks, they are about to raise by cell bill, the service is nothing special, and they are at the same time threatening to charge another $10 PER LINE to move me from using a credit card to debit my checking account monthly. Talk about a buzz kill, but just in time for the iPhone 15 rollout. Though I did like watching The Last of Us on HBO Max.

Good change, Frost Bank is an S.A. icon.

[Gagnrath]

:lmao Okay, boomer.
It's not a boomer only idea to not let major pillars of society be under the control of a single business or even small number of businesses operating in collusion. It's a big part of why china has such a hold on the global economy right now. (Also command economies when used properly can be fairly agile in catering to world demand.) I feel like sometime in the next 15 to 20 china will have some serious unrest at a domestic level but I fear what will happen to the west first as wealth transfers to china. However this is the basketball forum and isn't the place for politics.

I want to play on the frost bank name though and have pop thermostat games ala LeBron cramping being important in the future.

[exstatic]

It's what the establishment GOP and establishment Dems are against and it's what the populist classical liberals and Trump-wing populist conservatives are for. I stand for nationalist populism, dissolution of monopoly/oligopoly, more tariffs and less free trade, i.e. populism on economic issues and libertarianism on social issues.

The Obama administration shot down ATTs acquisition of T-Mobile, but the Trump administration allowed T-Mobile to acquire Sprint. You might want to do a reality check.

[Millennial_Messiah]

The Obama administration shot down ATTs acquisition of T-Mobile
Good


, but the Trump administration allowed T-Mobile to acquire Sprint. You might want to do a reality check.

Bad


The Obama administration shot down ATTs acquisition of T-Mobile, but the Trump administration allowed T-Mobile to acquire Sprint. You might want to do a reality check.

Neither party is perfect. Operation warp speed was bad too. But gas prices were $1.69 under Trump even before the scamdemic. Now they're over $3 even in Texas in the summer and just south of $3 in the winter. Fuck the green new deal.

[ChumpDumper]

Neither party is perfect. Operation warp speed was bad too. But gas prices were $1.69 under Trump even before the scamdemic. Now they're over $3 even in Texas in the summer and just south of $3 in the winter. Fuck the green new deal.That was Trump's personally brokering an end to the price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia.

[Millennial_Messiah]

That was Trump's personally brokering an end to the price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia.

Horse, it was $1.79 when Trump left office, then skyrocketed a dollar-plus in the ensuing 3 months after (F)JB axed the Keystone Pipeline on Day 1 by executive order. Skyrocketed to over $5 in June 2022 before plateauing, but the Dem trifecta didn't even consider -- much less pass -- a rebate tax credit offer for summer 2022 road travelers such as myself to reimburse for the difference in that "temporary inflation". Nope, their focus was culture wars, such as trying to codify Roe and when that didn't work, spamming the "conservatives are too extreme on abortion" culture war issue all summer and fall.


I'm a capitalist, to an extent, but I definitely believe in the ideology of "too big to fail is too big to exist".

[ChumpDumper]

Horse, it was $1.79 when Trump left office, then skyrocketed a dollar-plus in the ensuing 3 months after (F)JB axed the Keystone Pipeline on Day 1 by executive order. Skyrocketed to over $5 in June 2022 before plateauing, but the Dem trifecta didn't even consider -- much less pass -- a rebate tax credit offer for summer 2022 road travelers such as myself to reimburse for the difference in that "temporary inflation". Nope, their focus was culture wars, such as trying to codify Roe and when that didn't work, spamming the "conservatives are too extreme on abortion" culture war issue all summer and fall.


I'm a capitalist, to an extent, but I definitely believe in the ideology of "too big to fail is too big to exist".

:lol "capitalist" pretending demand wasn't destroyed the last year of Trump's term

[rjv]

who would have thought that the renaming of an arena would facilitate such political discourse? too bad eddie's tacos house couldn't afford the naming rights. we may have been spared.

[ChumpDumper]

who would have thought that the renaming of an arena would facilitate such political discourse? too bad eddie's tacos house couldn't afford the naming rights. we may have been spared.

I'm sure we could find something to argue about that.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol "capitalist" pretending demand wasn't destroyed the last year of Trump's term

Now the question is, how can we lower demand for housing? That's the real question and the real demand we need lowering.

Increase supply is a good idea, but how to force builders to build when supplies have gotten so expensive under the Biden administration? We need to lower demand. Maybe interest rates need to go way up again. But even that seemingly hasn't been able to adequately fix the problem.



who would have thought that the renaming of an arena would facilitate such political discourse? too bad eddie's tacos house couldn't afford the naming rights. we may have been spared.

The left would complain that the decor and artwork of Eddie's Taco House is too machisimo and family oriented and promotes toxic masculinity and doesn't have enough trans people.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Horse, it was $1.79 when Trump left office, then skyrocketed a dollar-plus in the ensuing 3 months after (F)JB axed the Keystone Pipeline on Day 1 by executive order. Skyrocketed to over $5 in June 2022 before plateauing, but the Dem trifecta didn't even consider -- much less pass -- a rebate tax credit offer for summer 2022 road travelers such as myself to reimburse for the difference in that "temporary inflation". Nope, their focus was culture wars, such as trying to codify Roe and when that didn't work, spamming the "conservatives are too extreme on abortion" culture war issue all summer and fall.


I'm a capitalist, to an extent, but I definitely believe in the ideology of "too big to fail is too big to exist".


Well my 401K was also worth about $1.79 when Trump left office. Now its back to all-time high. I'll gladly pay a $1 more for gas if it nets me 100k in stocks.

[ChumpDumper]

Now the question is, how can we lower demand for housing? That's the real question and the real demand we need lowering.

Increase supply is a good idea, but how to force builders to build when supplies have gotten so expensive under the Biden administration? We need to lower demand. Maybe interest rates need to go way up again. But even that seemingly hasn't been able to adequately fix the problem.Just wait for all these AirBnB and corporate buyers to crash their own market. They'll find a way to blow themselves up. But even they probably won't be able to meet demand in some hot markets. I benefitted from the boom here as a homeowner but it doesn't seem sustainable unless Elon makes blue collar robots that don't explode or rise up against us.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Well my 401K was also worth about $1.79 when Trump left office. Now its back to all-time high. I'll gladly pay a $1 more for gas if it nets me 100k in stocks.

2024, regardless of who wins in November, won't be kind to your 401K if it's built on stocks. The current Dow Jones is a very tall house of cards at the top of a peak.

I'm currently sitting on about 1.2M and getting over 5% APR / coupon rate on fixed income CD's. Each of them are individually FDIC insured because each CD is with a different bank and the notes are annual and for only $237,000, so the prinicipal and interest can't ever eclipse $250K. It's guaranteed money. Zero risk for loss.




Just wait for all these AirBnB and corporate buyers to crash their own market. They'll find a way to blow themselves up.
When do you predict this happens? Buyers haven't had a fair shot in the housing market since at least 2013, a decade-plus, and the housing market hasn't crashed yet the way it's been expected post-covidflation.



AT&T sucks, they are about to raise by cell bill, the service is nothing special, and they are at the same time threatening to charge another $10 PER LINE to move me from using a credit card to debit my checking account monthly. Talk about a buzz kill, but just in time for the iPhone 15 rollout. Though I did like watching The Last of Us on HBO Max.

Good change, Frost Bank is an S.A. icon.
100% agreed. Fuck AT&T. That name is way overused on stadiums across sports anyway.

[CGD]

It's what the establishment GOP and establishment Dems are against and it's what the populist classical liberals and Trump-wing populist conservatives are for. I stand for nationalist populism, dissolution of monopoly/oligopoly, more tariffs and less free trade, i.e. populism on economic issues and libertarianism on social issues.

Basically he’s a Bernie bro, except he hates the “wokes”

[Millennial_Messiah]

Basically he’s a Bernie bro, except he hates the “wokes”

I don't approve of crazy hipster alt-life counterculture being shoved in our face, no.

The trans and genderqueer weirdos can live and let live, but they shouldn't be pushed as the norm and not the exception to the norm, which they are for all practical purposes. I blame MTV and similar media outlets for pushing those shitty lifestyle choices in the 1990s and 00s.

Realistically, less than 2% of the population is genetically gay/homosexual. Very few are naturally bisexual. It's peer pressure for the most part; >99% of "bisexuals" are hetero or homo. Most all "bi" females are naturally straight, actually. They're just pressured by stupid alt-hippie tard friends to be "different" and "experiment" and it becomes a vicious cycle. As for the trans, it should be a decision made by adults 21+ only, and there should be a lot more education and pushback regarding the risks of transgender operations. Over half of all transgender persons have buyer's remorse at some point, but the operation is irreversible.

Then again I'm not like Ron Desantis or Hannity who has to say "woke" ten times per sentence in order to get my point across.

[lebomb]

Frost Center

.......... can we drop the Bank?

[heyheymymy]

Keystone would not impact domestic gas prices regardless.

It's export oil

It's Canadian export oil

It's Canadian tar sands export oil

It gets sands processed and shipped to European and Latin American markets. It would have created temporary American jobs to build the pipe but then that's it.

[exstatic]

Frost Center

.......... can we drop the Bank?

Not well known outside of SA, so I’m guessing that Bank is in the name.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I don't like change but I welcome this change because Frost Bank is synonymous with San Antonio through and through, whereas AT&T is a generic way-too-big multinational telecom company that should probably get the 1910s Standard Oil antitrust treatment by the government tbh.

:lmao Not much of a history student, eh? ATT was split into 8 companies back in the 1980's. One of those spinoffs was Southwestern Bell that actually grew larger than ATT and bought ATT. They dropped the SWB name and adopted ATT.

[CorrectCrusader]

Why are y'all talkin about politics in this thread lmao

[Extra Stout]

Why are y'all talkin about politics in this thread lmao

Frost Bank is an ironic name given late capitalism’s complicitly in the climate crisis.

[Leetonidas]

Keystone would not impact domestic gas prices regardless.

It's export oil

It's Canadian export oil

It's Canadian tar sands export oil

It gets sands processed and shipped to European and Latin American markets. It would have created temporary American jobs to build the pipe but then that's it.

Andy isnt very smart

[buttsR4rebounding]

The Obama administration shot down ATTs acquisition of T-Mobile, but the Trump administration allowed T-Mobile to acquire Sprint. You might want to do a reality check.

They were both correct in their actions. ATT has roughly a 45% market share. T-Mobile at the time had around 16%. The combined entity would have had a 60% market share. Obviously not good for competition. T-Mobile and Sprint combined have roughly a 23% market share with great synergies so as to actually increase competition. It pays to compare apples to apples so to speak.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/FrostBank/status/1687135155658342400

[rjv]

surprisingly, today's announcement did not involve any economic or political analysts. i'm sure that some ST posters are disappointed that the coyote did not bring out any pie charts or graphs.

[Arcadian]

New era for the roster; new era for the arena name. Fitting.

[spurraider21]

its still the sbc center to me

[benefactor]

its still the sbc center to me
I still have an sbc email address tbh

[spurraider21]

I still have an sbc email address tbh
the raiders coliseum in oakland went through so many name changes that i can recall

network associates coliseum, mcafee coliseum, o.co coliseum... nothing ever stuck

for much of its life there were years where literally nobody wanted to pay for naming rights so it went by the Oakland - Alameda County Coliseum :lol

[lefty]

Better than Cheesecake center

OKC :lol

[barakz21]

its still the sbc center to me

Ah, good times. Started my fandom that last year they had at the Alamodome, then the next season they won that title in SBC center. I guess I agree in that I hear and see “AT&T center” I know but the image of “SBC Center” always comes to mind.

[Obstructed_View]

Why are y'all talkin about politics in this thread lmao
This is the worst time of the season. No basketball so every thread devolves into this shit.

[benefactor]

This is the worst time of the season. No basketball so every thread devolves into this shit.
That and because God King Trump is getting smacked around by Jack Smith. They are more lathered up than usual

[Gagnrath]

who would have thought that the renaming of an arena would facilitate such political discourse? too bad eddie's tacos house couldn't afford the naming rights. we may have been spared.

Nah because then we would have been hearing it about that Cabellero's supporting Mexico and illegal immigrants. In the dog days if summer the argumentative people will devolve everything to political fights.

[CorrectCrusader]

This is the worst time of the season. No basketball so every thread devolves into this shit.
Haha, guess it's to be expected in an old school webforum. I just don't see the point in these discussions

[baseline bum]

Small govt for me, not for thee, LOL

Government get out of my life and into her's.

[buttsR4rebounding]

That and because God King Trump is getting smacked around by Jack Smith. They are more lathered up than usual

The same Jack Smith that was just overturned by a 9-0 Supreme Court decision because "he would rather get a win than the facts correct".

[scott]

Am I dreaming this, or at one time did the the area use some dumb British spelling for "SBC Centre"?

Front Bank Center legit sounds like a branch of a bank. Stupid name. Should have gone with Frost Bank Arena so old ladies don't show up on a random Tuesday to buy some $20 EE Bonds for their grandchildren

[CGD]

Am I dreaming this, or at one time did the the area use some dumb British spelling for "SBC Centre"?

Front Bank Center legit sounds like a branch of a bank. Stupid name. Should have gone with Frost Bank Arena so old ladies don't show up on a random Tuesday to buy some $20 EE Bonds for their grandchildren

lol

[CorrectCrusader]

Am I dreaming this, or at one time did the the area use some dumb British spelling for "SBC Centre"?

Front Bank Center legit sounds like a branch of a bank. Stupid name. Should have gone with Frost Bank Arena so old ladies don't show up on a random Tuesday to buy some $20 EE Bonds for their grandchildren

I still think we can come up with a better name. I'm never gonna call it Frost Bank Center. Minimum Frost Center. Banks sound BORING.

[bigfan]

Spurs need to sell that cow palace and move back to downtown. There was nothing better that celebrating a victory a short walk away from Hemisfair.