UAW strike

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Workers are on strike at all 3 Detroit auto makers for the first time in their union’s history

https://apnews.com/article/auto-uaw-workers-strike-gm-ford-stellantis-7ce3ca9d94b911250d07556b7af376c7

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Excellent. Anything that bugs that fuck squattin' in the White House is a good thing.

[baseline bum]

The two tier system where people are working as temps for years has to go, as do the 60-70 hour weeks. Unless you own the company putting in those kind of hours is ridiculous.

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The two tier system where people are working as temps for years has to go, as do the 60-70 hour weeks. Unless you own the company putting in those kind of hours is ridiculous.

But anything over the 40 hours is (time and a half,) (double time,) and the all treasured & sanctified (triple time.) The old man lived for the latter 3.

[daboom1]

/yawn

[Chucho]

If this strike could get even 1/100th of the "concern" from Muricans as the SAG/AFTRA strike, that'd help restore a little faith in our society.

[CosmicCowboy]

It's going to be a long strike. Fein got too greedy. No way he gets all his wish list.

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It's going to be a long strike. Fein got too greedy. No way he gets all his wish list.

No. Biden will have somebody step in, make everything right & he'll/Biden will take the credit, the fuckin' squatter. He's a shrewd little cocksucker.

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If this strike could get even 1/100th of the "concern" from Muricans as the SAG/AFTRA strike, that'd help restore a little faith in our society.

Either one is a major boon. The shit they've been writing & acting on for over a quarter century ain't missed a bit. & the shit they're putting out in Detroit is just that/shit. And now they got that cocksucker squatter Biden pushing that EV shit like cheap candy. Nothing but pure shit from either industry.

[leemajors]

It's going to be a long strike. Fein got too greedy. No way he gets all his wish list.

All three auto makers are posting record profits, none of it reaches the workers. Who's greedy? The union was forced to give up a lot 10 years ago when they were all near bankruptcy

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All three auto makers are posting record profits, none of it reaches the workers. Who's greedy? The union was forced to give up a lot 10 years ago when they were all near bankruptcy

But that was free money///money from home like America is giving Ukraine/Nazi's now, Lee.

[CosmicCowboy]

All three auto makers are posting record profits, none of it reaches the workers. Who's greedy?

LOL

Auto industry is boom/bust.

Currently average pay for operations workers is $130,000 year.

They are asking for 40% raises based on 40 hour work week but only work 32 hours.
Demanding full fringes, 5 weeks vacation, plus regular 17 holidays.
defined benefit retirement plan

There is ZERO chance any of the big three can afford to do this.

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LOL

Auto industry is boom/bust.

Currently average pay for operations workers is $130,000 year.

They are asking for 40% raises based on 40 hour work week but only work 32 hours.
Demanding full fringes, 5 weeks vacation, plus regular 17 holidays.
defined benefit retirement plan

There is ZERO chance any of the big three can afford to do this.

They can if the gov't bails them out and guarantees it with a quaint..."Whatever it takes." like over in the Nazi occupied Ukraine.

Be like shaved pussy, CC.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

LOL

Auto industry is boom/bust.

Currently average pay for operations workers is $130,000 year.

They are asking for 40% raises based on 40 hour work week but only work 32 hours.
Demanding full fringes, 5 weeks vacation, plus regular 17 holidays.
defined benefit retirement plan

There is ZERO chance any of the big three can afford to do this.

This is not the days where there are a dozen riveters alone per production line. Given the level of automation, they very well likely could.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This situation is a good argument for UBI.

[CosmicCowboy]

This is not the days where there are a dozen riveters alone per production line. Given the level of automation, they very well likely could.

Ford has 173,000 employees.

[Blake]

LOL

Auto industry is boom/bust.

Currently average pay for operations workers is $130,000 year.

They are asking for 40% raises based on 40 hour work week but only work 32 hours.
Demanding full fringes, 5 weeks vacation, plus regular 17 holidays.
defined benefit retirement plan

There is ZERO chance any of the big three can afford to do this.

They've had record profits and the CEOs have given themselves 40% raises.

The auto makers have said they're prepared for a strike with enough vehicles in inventory and cash in the bank to outlast the workers.

Also:

"What is the average UAW autoworker’s wage?

Full-time employees at the Big Three make on average $18 to $32 an hour, depending on seniority — wages that haven’t kept up with inflation.

Full-time workers also get profit-sharing checks and other bonuses. Over the past four years, those have amounted to tens of thousands of dollars per worker. The companies argue that the benefits they offer full-time UAW members are among the best in the manufacturing sector, including health-care plans with lower out-of-pocket costs than most Americans pay."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/15/uaw-strike-average-workers-wages/

Keep parroting those right wing podcast talking points. They're always factual and unbiased.

[CosmicCowboy]

They've had record profits and the CEOs have given themselves 40% raises.

The auto makers have said they're prepared for a strike with enough vehicles in inventory and cash in the bank to outlast the workers.

Also:

"What is the average UAW autoworker’s wage?

Full-time employees at the Big Three make on average $18 to $32 an hour, depending on seniority — wages that haven’t kept up with inflation.

Full-time workers also get profit-sharing checks and other bonuses. Over the past four years, those have amounted to tens of thousands of dollars per worker. The companies argue that the benefits they offer full-time UAW members are among the best in the manufacturing sector, including health-care plans with lower out-of-pocket costs than most Americans pay."

you kind of blew by the profit sharing and bonuses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/15/uaw-strike-average-workers-wages/

Keep parroting those right wing podcast talking points. They're always factual and unbiased.

https://www.comparably.com/companies/ford-motor-company/salaries

[Blake]

https://www.comparably.com/companies/ford-motor-company/salaries

"Salaries contributed from Ford Motor Company employees include job titles like Engineering Manager, Senior Developer, DevOps, and Developer...."

Smh

[Ef-man]

Posted in the link:

Executive VP & President of Global Operations
Salary $1.05M
Total Comp $6.72M

CEO / President
Salary (blank)
Total Comp (blank)

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ford has 173,000 employees.

You were talking about operations and so was I. That is also worldwide. The offshored most of it.

[koriwhat]

Look around and you can see who the atheist commie bastards are in this very thread starting with gay boy OP.

No wonder yall need therapists.

Same morons thinking those flipping burgers at McDonald's deserve $15+/hr. Retards!

[Millennial_Messiah]

UBI Yang theory is retarded, but Trump should capitalize on this opportunity to simp for the union workers and gain a polling lead in Michigan

[Blake]

UBI Yang theory is retarded, but Trump should capitalize on this opportunity to simp for the union workers and gain a polling lead in Michigan

No, Trump chastised them

[Millennial_Messiah]

No, Trump chastised them

Trump attacked the union leader, who accepts bribes from the Soros/Rothschild globalist BigDonor establishment.... not the workers. And he's right. The concept of private sector unionization is good, but not when the leadership of said unions are corrupt and partisan.

Trump still has the opportunity to show the workers that he cares about putting their interests and jobs first and that he's an authentic populist and not just another establishment GOP "capitalism uber alles" elitist.

lest not forget Trump endorsed and voted for Obama in 2008, though admittedly between him, Hillary, and McCain, there were no good options that year and it was a recession year.

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Trump attacked the union leader, who accepts bribes from the Soros/Rothschild globalist BigDonor establishment.... not the workers. And he's right. The concept of private sector unionization is good, but not when the leadership of said unions are corrupt and partisan.

Trump still has the opportunity to show the workers that he cares about putting their interests and jobs first and that he's an authentic populist and not just another establishment GOP "capitalism uber alles" elitist.

lest not forget Trump endorsed and voted for Obama in 2008, though admittedly between him, Hillary, and McCain, there were no good options that year and it was a recession year.

Ange

[Blake]

Trump attacked the union leader, who accepts bribes from the Soros/Rothschild globalist BigDonor establishment.... not the workers. And he's right. The concept of private sector unionization is good, but not when the leadership of said unions are corrupt and partisan.

Trump still has the opportunity to show the workers that he cares about putting their interests and jobs first and that he's an authentic populist and not just another establishment GOP "capitalism uber alles" elitist.

lest not forget Trump endorsed and voted for Obama in 2008, though admittedly between him, Hillary, and McCain, there were no good options that year and it was a recession year.

Lol he attacked union leaders because they don't back him.

He's telling union workers they won't have jobs if this continues.

[baseline bum]

Lol he attacked union leaders because they don't back him.

He's telling union workers they won't have jobs if this continues.

LOL Trump telling the union workers to just bend over and accept the status quo is sure to win him Michigan.

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LOL Trump telling the union workers to just bend over and accept the status quo is sure to win him Michigan.

He couldn't win MI., if hell froze over. And if he did manage it there'd be a line to assassinate him for it.

[Millennial_Messiah]

He couldn't win MI., if hell froze over. And if he did manage it there'd be a line to assassinate him for it.

Seriously? MI is as populist of a state as it gets, and Trump beat Hillary in MI outright in 2016 even with a minimal third-party vote share. It's libertarian-populist. Common sense capitalism, pro private sector union, socially moderate but right of center, especially on gun and freedom/authoritarian issues, and school choice is the majority opinion of Michiganders which the Dems have fought to block for years.

2022 abortion rights in a libertarian state was effectively the top of the ticket and 2018 marijuana in a libertarian state effectively served as the top of the ticket. Those artificial blue wave years in MI don't make MI anything close to a purple state. Even partisan Dem podcasters like Let's Talk Elections who is very biased and optimistic for the left/Dems, admits Michigan is pure purple and either side can win both the presidential and senate race next year in MI. Coin flip, and will come down to campaigning and in the case of the senate candidate, candidate quality especially on the GOP side. It's an open senate seat, Slotkin is a generic Whitmer style Democrat, not a terrible candidate but isn't exactly a juggernaut. She's beatable, and if the Dems nominate someone like Hill Harper (not very likely, but possible) then they will lose big.

Another big factor that played into the 2022 blue wave in Michigan was the low turnout on the GOP side (Dems turned out their base very well, a lot of the GOP and MAGA base stayed home). This was caused by multiple factors, starting with the disqualification of James Craig for Governor, which was the base's pick. Sure he might have lost to Whitmer, but it would be close to Kari Lake's margin. Tudor Dixon was great on a lot of issues but seen as a replacement candidate, cringe extremist on abortion and also her campaign was financed by Betsy DeVos, who a lot of conservative Michiganders consider to be a RINO.

If the Dems in any swing state ever put something like gun control or defunding the police on the ballot, they'd be committing political suicide up and down stream... so that's why they only use legislation for that and use democracy for issues which they are the majority opinion in a state or nationwide like common sense abortion legality and cannabis legalization.



Lol he attacked union leaders because they don't back him.

He's telling union workers they won't have jobs if this continues.
He attacked union leaders because they're rich elitists, paid off by big marxist-globalist donors, that take advantage of and every penny possible from their members (i.e., the workers).

Your second sentence is canon.

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Seriously? MI is as populist of a state as it gets, and Trump beat Hillary in MI outright in 2016 even with a minimal third-party vote share. It's libertarian-populist. Common sense capitalism, pro private sector union, socially moderate but right of center, especially on gun and freedom/authoritarian issues, and school choice is the majority opinion of Michiganders which the Dems have fought to block for years.

2022 abortion rights in a libertarian state was effectively the top of the ticket and 2018 marijuana in a libertarian state effectively served as the top of the ticket. Those artificial blue wave years in MI don't make MI anything close to a purple state. Even partisan Dem podcasters like Let's Talk Elections who is very biased and optimistic for the left/Dems, admits Michigan is pure purple and either side can win both the presidential and senate race next year in MI. Coin flip, and will come down to campaigning and in the case of the senate candidate, candidate quality especially on the GOP side. It's an open senate seat, Slotkin is a generic Whitmer style Democrat, not a terrible candidate but isn't exactly a juggernaut. She's beatable, and if the Dems nominate someone like Hill Harper (not very likely, but possible) then they will lose big.

Another big factor that played into the 2022 blue wave in Michigan was the low turnout on the GOP side (Dems turned out their base very well, a lot of the GOP and MAGA base stayed home). This was caused by multiple factors, starting with the disqualification of James Craig for Governor, which was the base's pick. Sure he might have lost to Whitmer, but it would be close to Kari Lake's margin. Tudor Dixon was great on a lot of issues but seen as a replacement candidate, cringe extremist on abortion and also her campaign was financed by Betsy DeVos, who a lot of conservative Michiganders consider to be a RINO.

If the Dems in any swing state ever put something like gun control or defunding the police on the ballot, they'd be committing political suicide up and down stream... so that's why they only use legislation for that and use democracy for issues which they are the majority opinion in a state or nationwide like common sense abortion legality and cannabis legalization.



He attacked union leaders because they're rich elitists, paid off by big marxist-globalist donors, that take advantage of and every penny possible from their members (i.e., the workers).

Your second sentence is canon.

Damn, you're right, Andrew. I was wrong on MI., in '16. I'd forgotten he'd taken that then.

[Blake]

He attacked union leaders because they're rich elitists, paid off by big marxist-globalist donors, that take advantage of and every penny possible from their members (i.e., the workers).

Your second sentence is canon.

:lol he absolutely does not give two shits about the union workers. He absolutely cares that the union leaders tell their union to vote Democrat. That's it. Anything else is you just make believing because he's your guy.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol he absolutely does not give two shits about the union workers. He absolutely cares that the union leaders tell their union to vote Democrat. That's it. Anything else is you just make believing because he's your guy.

Not untrue, but the underneath truth is they're telling them that because the leftist big donors are blackmailing them to; it's part of their long-established agreement. It's been the standard since, at least, Dukakis 1988, and probably before that.

However the statement that Trump doesn't care about the hard-ass working blue collar, predominately white and male union worker base is absurd and 100% false. That's a large chunk of his base, especially among Gen X.

[baseline bum]

Not untrue, but the underneath truth is they're telling them that because the leftist big donors are blackmailing them to; it's part of their long-established agreement. It's been the standard, at least, Dukakis 1988, and probably before that.

:rollin

[HemisfairArena]

Democrats losing the unions and minorities as well as independents,,,,what could possibly go wrong running the crypt keeper again in 2024 as well as cameltoe harris with the worst vice president approval rating in us history?,,,,keep with that ticket, democrats,,,,lets see how that works out for ya,,,,

[Blake]

Not untrue, but the underneath truth is they're telling them that because the leftist big donors are blackmailing them to; it's part of their long-established agreement. It's been the standard, at least, Dukakis 1988, and probably before that.

However the statement that Trump doesn't care about the hard-ass working blue collar, predominately white and male union worker base is absurd and 100% false. That's a large chunk of his base, especially among Gen X.

Neh. You're wish casting

[Blake]

Democrats losing the unions and minorities as well as independents,,,,what could possibly go wrong running the crypt keeper again in 2024 as well as cameltoe harris with the worst vice president approval rating in us history?,,,,keep with that ticket, democrats,,,,lets see how that works out for ya,,,,

Ok, you run Trump out there and we'll see

[HemisfairArena]

Ok, you run Trump out there and we'll see

Trump is there,,,,you cant stop him,,,

[ElNono]

Democrats losing the unions and minorities as well as independents,,,,what could possibly go wrong running the crypt keeper again in 2024 as well as cameltoe harris with the worst vice president approval rating in us history?,,,,keep with that ticket, democrats,,,,lets see how that works out for ya,,,,

:lmao:lmao:lmao losing in a landslide to crypt keeper joe and cameltoe harris... you'll have to live with det one forever and ever...

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:lmao:lmao:lmao losing in a landslide to crypt keeper joe and cameltoe harris... you'll have to live with det one forever and ever...

As you'll have to live with Trump making President.