Damn. Trump is fucked

[CosmicCowboy]

Former President Donald Trump, his top executives, and heirs were declared completely liable of “persistent and repeated fraud”—and the real estate empire was unceremoniously stripped of its business licenses in New York—after a judge’s powerful ruling Tuesday ahead of a massive trial that seeks to hit them with more than $250 million in penalties for bank fraud.

And in a stunning development, the judge has already ordered the complete dissolution of the fabled Trump Organization–the tycoon’s pride and joy, the empire that made him famous and elevated him into the White House. The Trump Organization and its sister companies will be sent into receivership to be under the control of a court-appointed officer.

Even before the trial officially starts, the ruling handed New York Attorney General Letitia James a near total victory, meaning that next week’s trial will mostly focus on damages that could pulverize whatever is left of Trump’s many business entities and bank accounts.

In his 35-page opinion, Justice Arthur F. Engoron tore apart what he called the Trump family’s “bogus arguments” and obstreperous conduct. And he summed up the entire defense as “a fantasy world, not the real world.”

“In defendants’ world: rent regulated apartments are worth the same as unregulated apartments; restricted land is worth the same as unrestricted land, restricts can evaporate into thin air… all illegal acts are untimely if they stem from one untimely act; and square footage [is] subjective,” he wrote.

Trump Tries to Strike Down New York AG Case Before It Starts

Trump, several of his heirs, and top executives will now be fighting off accusations of bank and insurance fraud at a civil trial that’s scheduled to run from early October until late December. AG Letitia James seeks to punish them all for routinely lying about property values to score better deals. At trial, it will be up to Judge Engoron alone whether the Trumps will owe $250 million-plus in penalties, be prohibited from serving as executives, and have the company charters revoked.

In a scathing statement posted to Truth Social on Tuesday night, the former president described himself, his family and supporters as victims of a “widespread, radical attack that has now devolved to new, un-American depths.” He described Judge Engoron as “DERANGED” and alleged he was simply doing James’ “bidding.”

“Today’s action is a refutation of my status as the leading Candidate for President of the United States,” he fumed. “It is a terrible reminder that the Radical Left Democrats will stop at nothing in trying to prevent me, and the American people, from winning the 2024 Presidential Election. Regardless of Party, we cannot let this happen in the United States of America!”

Trump alleged that as his lead in the polls over Biden grows higher, his enemies are becoming “more and more desperate and dangerous.”

At a court hearing last week, lawyers on both sides tried to convince the judge to grant them each a total victory to avoid much of the trial. Engoron decided against that, rejecting the Trumps’ request to dismiss the case entirely and the AG’s request to have a trial solely on damages.

On Tuesday, Engoron ripped the Trumps—and their lawyers—apart for dragging this on so long with legal arguments that wasted the courts time by repeatedly questioning whether the AG even had the authority to hold them accountable this way.

Those arguments “glaringly misrepresent” the law and trying them again and again “invoke the time-loop in the film Groundhog Day,’” the judge wrote, calling attempts to topple the case this way “pure sophistry.”

Engoron also made the pivotal decision to keep all of the AG’s lawsuit intact, concluding that all of the real estate deals in question are not too old for law enforcement to crack down on for bank fraud. He brushed off the Trumps’ attempt to whittle down the lawsuit ahead of a trial that could drain the wealthy family’s bank accounts.

The timing of this decision also throws a wrench into the Trumps’ Hail Mary play, in which they sued the judge directly and prematurely asked a state appellate court to intervene because he hadn’t yet made his decision on the statute of limitations—an oddly aggressive move that reeked of delay tactics. That higher court, the appellate division’s First Judicial Department, has yet to weigh in. Doing so now might be a moot point. As such, the trial appears to be set to start next Monday, as planned.

Trump, His Kids, and His Bankers: New York AG Lays Out Witnesses in Case

The judge seemed particularly annoyed at what he described as the Trumps’ inability to run their business ethically. He had previously assigned a former federal judge to oversee aspects of the Trump Organization to ensure that it did not slyly shift assets ahead of the trial—only to discover that executives wouldn't let the court-appointed monitor do her job.

“Even with a preliminary injunction in place, and with an independent monitor overseeing their compliance, defendants have continued to disseminate false and misleading information while conducting business,” he wrote.

The judge said that canceling the business certificate was justified.

“This ongoing flouting of this court’s prior order, combined with the persistent nature of the false [statements of financial condition] year after year, have demonstrated the necessity of canceling the certificates,” he added.

The judge struck down every defense Trump and his lawyers raised during the course of the AG’s three-year investigation and in the year since she filed her lawsuit.

For example, Engoron stopped Trump from leaning on dubious disclaimers from his longtime outside accountants at MazarsUSA, which indicated that they hadn’t actually audited his personal financial statements. In court, his lawyers kept pushing the idea that Trump wasn’t really bound by basic rules called Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, known as “GAAP.” The judge was having none of it.

“These non-party disclaimers do not insulate defendants from liability, as they plainly state that ‘Donald J. Trump is responsible for the preparation and fair presentation of the financial statement in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America,’” Engoron wrote.

And in what’s become a recurring theme in this case—one that has annoyed the judge repeatedly—it was clear that the Trumps were pointing to evidence that said the exact opposite of what they were trying to prove.

“In sum, the Mazars disclaimers put the onus for accuracy squarely on defendants’ shoulders,” Engoron wrote.

(Mazars dropped the Trump Organization as a client last year and disavowed their previous work by pointing to his untrustworthy personal financial statement.)

In his decision on Tuesday, Engoron also decided to impose sanctions on the Trumps’ lawyers over the AG’s accusations that they have acted unprofessionally by raising ridiculous arguments and delaying the case this long. AG investigators have been digging into the Trumps’ finances for more than three years and have been slowed down at every turn by a company that has refused to turn over documents and Trump family members who wouldn’t show up for official interviews. The family’s procrastination and obstruction efforts forced the judge to intervene several times, at one point ordering the former president himself to pay $110,000 in fines.

“Unfortunately, sanctions are the only way to impress upon defendants’ attorneys the consequences of engaging in repetitive, frivolous motion practice after this court, affirmed by the appellate division, expressly warned them against doing so,” he wrote.

He ordered the entire Trump legal team—Michael Madaio, Clifford S. Robert, Michael Farina, Christopher Kise, and Armen Morian—to each pay $7,500, a punishment that will also serve as a blemish on their professional records.

[daboom1]

6 ways from Sunday

[CosmicCowboy]

The company owns his plane. oops.

[Kim Jong-il]

6 ways from Sunday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qZisaj1VWg

[Millennial_Messiah]

Trump Wolf of Wall Street domestic stuff and tax fraud in NYC vs. Biden foreign money laundering, bribery, espionage, and treason.

Trump remains the lesser of the two evils.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump Wolf of Wall Street domestic stuff and tax fraud in NYC vs. Biden foreign money laundering, bribery, espionage, and treason.

Trump remains the lesser of the two evils.Except the Trump stuff, you know, actually happened.

[clambake]

Trump Wolf of Wall Street domestic stuff and tax fraud in NYC vs. Biden foreign money laundering, bribery, espionage, and treason.

Trump remains the lesser of the two evils.
Do you talk this way to your kid that you abandoned?

[Ef-man]

Trump Wolf of Wall Street domestic stuff and tax fraud in NYC vs. Biden foreign money laundering, bribery, espionage, and treason.

Trump remains the lesser of the two evils.

Fake news; a real MM post would include: 1. unrelated travel stories, 2. fantasy sex with random women, 3. how much money he makes.

This is just ducks’ level wish casting.

[Will Hunting]

There’s definitely an element of “everyone does it” in terms of Trump inflating or deflating asset values depending on whether he’s talking to a bank he’s trying to get a loan from or a tax assessor, but there’s an art to doing it creatively and not in a way that’s overly blatant (eg, using a discounted cash flow valuation for a bank loan appraisal & then using replacement cost when you’re dealing with a tax assessor).

From the looks of it the Trump Org went way beyond how it’s typically done and outright used fraudulent valuation assumptions (eg, saying his Manhattan condo was 3x larger than it actually was) to inflate asset values which opened himself up to this.

Do I think NY is going after him for something that it wouldn’t go after any other real estate developer / investor for? Yes. Do I think Trump made it extremely easy for NY to go after him by using bullshit valuations that go way beyond what any other real estate developer does to inflate its balance sheet? Also yes.

[hater]

Soleimanis revenge :tu

Fatass deserves it and Soleimani will be waiting for him in the depths of Hell

[Ef-man]

Calculating square footage is a “subjective process.” :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Thread]

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[Spurs Homer]

Hey OP,

didnt everyone on the planet tell you and warn you that trump was a criminal and a con man many many years ago?

yet

you voted for him twice, joined his cult, supported his cons/crimes/white supremacy

and defended him 24/7

and here we are….

[Ef-man]

The company owns his plane. oops.

He will be down to "Uber Trump Force One" to get around.

[Thread]

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[spurraider21]

6 ways from Sunday
the NYAG is not part of the intelligence community

sorry

[spurraider21]

There’s definitely an element of “everyone does it” in terms of Trump inflating or deflating asset values depending on whether he’s talking to a bank he’s trying to get a loan from or a tax assessor, but there’s an art to doing it creatively and not in a way that’s overly blatant (eg, using a discounted cash flow valuation for a bank loan appraisal & then using replacement cost when you’re dealing with a tax assessor).

From the looks of it the Trump Org went way beyond how it’s typically done and outright used fraudulent valuation assumptions (eg, saying his Manhattan condo was 3x larger than it actually was) to inflate asset values which opened himself up to this.

Do I think NY is going after him for something that it wouldn’t go after any other real estate developer / investor for? Yes. Do I think Trump made it extremely easy for NY to go after him by using bullshit valuations that go way beyond what any other real estate developer does to inflate its balance sheet? Also yes.
obviously they're not going to have resources to look after each and every individual case. same with how the IRS handles audits. the IRS isnt going to dedicate its limited resources to audit people making 60k/year on a w2 job.

its true that many people try putting their finger on the scale when it comes to tax/loan stuff, but if you're regularly dropping anvils on the scale, it will be picked up on

[pgardn]

the NYAG is not part of the intelligence community

sorry


"Oh yeah?

Well they keep records so they are to be feared."

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[Blake]

the NYAG is not part of the intelligence community

sorry

:lol chrispiracies

[Thread]

:lol chrispiracies

Mornin', fart-face.

[Thread]

[[[Damn. Trump is fucked (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302558&p=10958371)]]]

& all he did (lmao) was make President of the United States.

They've sure showed & are showing that old man where the bear shits in the buckwheat, eh, boys? & showing the rest of us thru Trump's crucifixion..."Don't even think about it, motherfuckers, or, this is what will befall you, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. This is a closed circuitPERIOD"

[ChumpDumper]

:lol chrispiracies

:lol none of his cult members can address the actual facts of any of his cases because they know he's guilty.

[Thread]

:lol none of his cult members can address the actual facts of any of his cases because they know he's guilty.

...yes, absolutely & all he did (lmao) was make President of the United States.

They've sure showed & are showing that old man where the bear shits in the buckwheat, eh, boys? & showing the rest of us thru Trump's crucifixion..."Don't even think about it, motherfuckers, or, this is what will befall you, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. This is a closed circuitPERIOD"

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sure Dale is just spamming furiously. Broken record bads.

[Thread]

I'm sure Dale is just spamming furiously. Broken record bads.

lmcontrollinao!!!

[Thread]

[[[Damn. Trump is fucked (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302558&p=10958371)]]]

& all he did (lmao) was make President of the United States.

They've sure showed & are showing that old man where the bear shits in the buckwheat, eh, boys? & showing the rest of us thru this; Trump's crucifixion...

"Don't even think about it, motherfuckers, or, this is what will befall you, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. This is a closed circuitPERIOD"

[Ef-man]

Explains 6''3" and 215 pounds, height and weight are also subjective. :lol

https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1707049004318494979

[Thread]

Explains 6''3" and 215 pounds, height and weight are also subjective. :lol

https://x.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1707049004318494979





[[[Damn. Trump is fucked (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302558&p=10958371)]]]

& all he did (lmao) was make President of the United States.

They've sure showed & are showing that old man where the bear shits in the buckwheat, eh, boys? & showing the rest of us thru this; Trump's crucifixion...

"Don't even think about it, motherfuckers, or, this is what will befall you, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. This is a closed circuitPERIOD"

[Thread]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSLhb6ArBsfgzaF9DDMVLdh1R1654mie 2mqE61iucmL_vEUFmUjEKrbRSpoHQ&s

[Ef-man]

Good thing that the sentencing guidelines are not subjective as the square footage listed on a Yam Tits bank loan submission. :tu

[Thread]

[[[Damn. Trump is fucked (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302558&p=10958371)]]]

& all he did (lmao) was make President of the United States.

They've sure showed & are showing that old man where the bear shits in the buckwheat, eh, boys? & showing the rest of us thru this; Trump's crucifixion...

"Don't even think about it, motherfuckers, or, this is what will befall you, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. This is a closed circuitPERIOD"

[koriwhat]

Got to love all the weak sobs in here celebrating the politicization of our (in)justice system. Who's the real fascists? :lmao

[Thread]

Got to love all the weak sobs in here celebrating the politicization of our (in)justice system. Who's the real fascists? :lmao

The bitter truth.

[ChumpDumper]

Got to love all the weak sobs in here celebrating the politicization of our (in)justice system. Who's the real fascists? :lmao

Trump broke the law.

Don't you believe in law and order?

[koriwhat]

Have fun blowing up my notifications gay boy Chump. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Have fun blowing up my notifications gay boy Chump. :tu

Have fun with your "not caring" meltdowns, mama's boy. :tu

[koriwhat]

LOL gay boy

https://i.ibb.co/wS2FCyY/Screenshot-2023-09-27-at-4-00-28-PM.png

[ChumpDumper]

LOL gay boy

https://i.ibb.co/wS2FCyY/Screenshot-2023-09-27-at-4-00-28-PM.png

Not what your mom says.

[Thread]

Trump broke the law.

Don't you believe in law and order?

Nope. Not since Trump made President and you sicked the dogs on him 24/7/365, including Day 1 when you threatened to blow up the White House with his wife and child in there.

[Spurs Homer]

Got to love all the weak sobs in here celebrating the politicization of our (in)justice system. Who's the real fascists? :lmao

you sound like your whiny orange traitor crying about getting busted

he broke the law

now he can stfu and face prosecution like a man
if he didnt break the law

he can stfu and win his case and sue the govt for this “so called” politization and/or weaponization

and you too can stfu and act like a man for once you little kunt


oh yeah and by the way

your whore mom sure likes to get tag teamed
disgusting whore

[Thread]

you sound like your whiny orange traitor crying about getting busted

he broke the law

now he can stfu and face prosecution like a man
if he didnt break the law

he can stfu and win his case and sue the govt for this “so called” politization and/or weaponization

and you too can stfu and act like a man for once you little kunt


oh yeah and by the way

your whore mom sure likes to get tag teamed
disgusting whore



[[[Damn. Trump is fucked (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302558&p=10958371)]]]

& all he did (lmao) was make President of the United States.

They've sure showed & are showing that old man where the bear shits in the buckwheat, eh, boys? & showing the rest of us thru this; Trump's crucifixion...

"Don't even think about it, motherfuckers, or, this is what will befall you, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. This is a closed circuitPERIOD"

[koriwhat]

you sound like your whiny orange traitor crying about getting busted

he broke the law

now he can stfu and face prosecution like a man
if he didnt break the law

he can stfu and win his case and sue the govt for this “so called” politization and/or weaponization

and you too can stfu and act like a man for once you little kunt


oh yeah and by the way

your whore mom sure likes to get tag teamed
disgusting whore

Do me a favor and get some help already you mentally ill and mentally challenged reject. :tu

[Ef-man]

you sound like your whiny orange traitor crying about getting busted

he broke the law

now he can stfu and face prosecution like a man
if he didnt break the law

he can stfu and win his case and sue the govt for this “so called” politization and/or weaponization

and you too can stfu and act like a man for once you little kunt


oh yeah and by the way

your whore mom sure likes to get tag teamed
disgusting whore

Hey, mature women need love too; especially the stressed ones that unable to empty their nest, cause the kid is a retard.

[koriwhat]

Hey, mature women need love too; especially the stressed ones that unable to empty their nest, cause the kid is a retard.

What's my license number? You've yet to produce that simple "evidence" Dickbreath Tracy. :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Hey, mature women need love too; especially the stressed ones that unable to empty their nest, cause the kid is a retard.


bitch aint mature at all

lol

[koriwhat]

It's funny watching grown adults throw their weak "your mother" burns around like the children they actually are. Oh no don't hurt my feefee's please! :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao the guy who posts tween insults every day scolding about mom jokes

[Spurs Homer]

:lmao the guy who posts tween insults every day scolding about mom jokes

welp, now you did it


death will be wished upon you!

[Ef-man]

:lmao the guy who posts tween insults every day scolding about mom jokes

Am also suspecting he is a qtsa alt with all the "answer me, answer me" posts. :lol

[Ef-man]

welp, now you did it


death will be wished upon you!

It was nice knowing you both, RIP.

[koriwhat]

Am also suspecting he is a qtsa alt with all the "answer me, answer me" posts. :lol

I'm not a bitch like yall and hide anonymously behind multiple alts. Sorry we're not the same you little bitch. :lol

Of course you think I'm multiple people you mentally ill retard.

[koriwhat]

It was nice knowing you both, RIP.

You literally know no one here you stupid fuck who's so hard up for eFriends but you have 0 irl friends to speak of. :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

I'm not a bitch like yall and hide anonymously behind multiple alts. Sorry we're not the same you little bitch. :lol

Of course you think I'm multiple people you mentally ill retard.

well at least you are not still whining about your criminal traitor cult daddy and his “ouchies” over his crimes

you kunt

[Ef-man]

Someone is salty today. :lol

[koriwhat]

well at least you are not still whining about your criminal traitor cult daddy and his “ouchies” over his crimes

you kunt

I've never whined about shit here. That's the character trait of you mentally ill rejects unfortunately. You're such a dumb mother fucker. SMH

[koriwhat]

Someone is salty today. :lol

Tell it to your boyfriends... Get off your knees bitch.

[Ef-man]

well at least you are not still whining about your criminal traitor cult daddy and his “ouchies” over his crimes

you kunt

See what you have done! The triggered little bitch will wish death to both of us, thanks a lot.

[Spurs Homer]

https://youtu.be/kXaPGlJZLDM?si=WT1YxuIAtVnHoX0X



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[koriwhat]

See what you have done! The triggered little bitch will wish death to both of us, thanks a lot.

Hyperbole and make believe... It's all you got you little bitch. :lmao

Though if you were to die, same with SH and many others here, I wouldn't shed a tear nor give one fuck. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Hyperbole and make believe... It's all you got you little bitch. :lmao

Though if you were to die, same with SH and many others here, I wouldn't shed a tear nor give one fuck. :tu

Eh, not hyperbole and really true:


You are a homosexual, a coward, a pathological liar, a wannabe psychologist, a cry baby bitch and I hope you die a horrific death you cocksucking loser! :tu:lol

[Ef-man]

Eh, not hyperbole and really true:

What did you expect from an idiot that thinks losing $3M and 1.5 acres is an empire :lmao :lmao

[Thread]

[[[Damn. Trump is fucked (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302558&p=10958371)]]]

& all he did (lmao) was make President of the United States.

They've sure showed & are showing that old man where the bear shits in the buckwheat, eh, boys? & showing the rest of us thru this; Trump's crucifixion...

"Don't even think about it, motherfuckers, or, this is what will befall you, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. This is a closed circuitPERIOD"

[koriwhat]

What did you expect from an idiot that thinks losing $3M and 1.5 acres is an empire :lmao :lmao

Always with the bullshit... What does Trump Inc entail? Why can't you ever be a genuine person Ef-PEDO? I would have no problem with any of you if you all were just genuine and weren't here to simply troll while trying to look virtuous, looking for pats on the back, or eFriends. You're weird and so are all your boyfriends here. You losers are the only ones in my notifications in the hundreds and thousands tbh. Yall are overtly obsessed to a weird degree with me while yall pretend not to want my attention when that's all yall want. It's odd as fuck!

[Ef-man]

https://youtu.be/kXaPGlJZLDM?si=WT1YxuIAtVnHoX0X



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:elephant
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:elephant
:elephant:elephant:elephant:elephant:elephant

Oh yes, got him again! A shutout! :lol

[koriwhat]

LMAO You dumbfucks actually listen/watch what that pussy ass Rapaport has to say? Go figure... :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

lol orange jumpsuit soon!



https://youtu.be/A5aiOuOd-Uw?si=2i4nBHcH0YoVAsa-



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[FrostKing]

Trump Wolf of Wall Street domestic stuff and tax fraud in NYC vs. Biden foreign money laundering, bribery, espionage, and treason.

Trump remains the lesser of the two evils.
:reading

[Thread]

[[[Damn. Trump is fucked (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=302558&p=10958371)]]]

& all he did (lmao) was make President of the United States.

They've sure showed & are showing that old man where the bear shits in the buckwheat, eh, boys? & showing the rest of us thru this; Trump's crucifixion...

"Don't even think about it, motherfuckers, or, this is what will befall you, just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. This is a closed circuitPERIOD"

~~~~~~~~~

"They say that I got killed..."


https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

[Ef-man]

Bottom of page one, no sir. N.Y. appeals court refuses to delay Trump fraud trial set to start Monday. :lol

Washington Post:

An appeals court Thursday declined to postpone the start of next week’s trial in the New York attorney general’s $250 million fraud lawsuit against Donald Trump and his company.

The appellate court had been asked by Trump’s legal team to put off the scheduled start of the proceeding Monday and to force New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, who will oversee it, to dismiss claims that were covered by statute of limitations.

In its two-page ruling, a panel at the Appellate Division, First Judicial Department, does not say whether Engoron committed an error by not finding that elements of the case are time-barred. An interim stay of the trial was vacated.

The ruling follows a major decision by Engoron on Tuesday that fraud was committed broadly by Trump, his namesake company, two of his adult children and two longtime employees. In that decision, Engoron ordered the revocation of Trump’s business certificates in New York and signaled that those entities would be dissolved under a receivership.

At the trial, Engoron will now only determine whether illegal conduct was employed by Trump and his executives to commit the long-running fraud.

[Spurs Homer]

Bottom of page one, no sir. N.Y. appeals court refuses to delay Trump fraud trial set to start Monday. :lol

Washington Post:

An appeals court Thursday declined to postpone the start of next week’s trial in the New York attorney general’s $250 million fraud lawsuit against Donald Trump and his company.

The appellate court had been asked by Trump’s legal team to put off the scheduled start of the proceeding Monday and to force New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, who will oversee it, to dismiss claims that were covered by statute of limitations.

In its two-page ruling, a panel at the Appellate Division, First Judicial Department, does not say whether Engoron committed an error by not finding that elements of the case are time-barred. An interim stay of the trial was vacated.

The ruling follows a major decision by Engoron on Tuesday that fraud was committed broadly by Trump, his namesake company, two of his adult children and two longtime employees. In that decision, Engoron ordered the revocation of Trump’s business certificates in New York and signaled that those entities would be dissolved under a receivership.

At the trial, Engoron will now only determine whether illegal conduct was employed by Trump and his executives to commit the long-running fraud.



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[CosmicCowboy]

Bottom of page one, no sir. N.Y. appeals court refuses to delay Trump fraud trial set to start Monday. :lol

Washington Post:

An appeals court Thursday declined to postpone the start of next week’s trial in the New York attorney general’s $250 million fraud lawsuit against Donald Trump and his company.

The appellate court had been asked by Trump’s legal team to put off the scheduled start of the proceeding Monday and to force New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, who will oversee it, to dismiss claims that were covered by statute of limitations.

In its two-page ruling, a panel at the Appellate Division, First Judicial Department, does not say whether Engoron committed an error by not finding that elements of the case are time-barred. An interim stay of the trial was vacated.

The ruling follows a major decision by Engoron on Tuesday that fraud was committed broadly by Trump, his namesake company, two of his adult children and two longtime employees. In that decision, Engoron ordered the revocation of Trump’s business certificates in New York and signaled that those entities would be dissolved under a receivership.

At the trial, Engoron will now only determine whether illegal conduct was employed by Trump and his executives to commit the long-running fraud.

Holy shit! Dissolved? its a TERRIBLE time sell big city commercial real estate with the interest rates and spooked banks. They will have to basically give them away.

[RandomGuy]

Former President Donald Trump, his top executives, and heirs were declared completely liable of “persistent and repeated fraud”—and the real estate empire was unceremoniously stripped of its business licenses in New York—after a judge’s powerful ruling Tuesday ahead of a massive trial that seeks to hit them with more than $250 million in penalties for bank fraud.

And in a stunning development, the judge has already ordered the complete dissolution of the fabled Trump Organization–the tycoon’s pride and joy, the empire that made him famous and elevated him into the White House. The Trump Organization and its sister companies will be sent into receivership to be under the control of a court-appointed officer.

Even before the trial officially starts, the ruling handed New York Attorney General Letitia James a near total victory, meaning that next week’s trial will mostly focus on damages that could pulverize whatever is left of Trump’s many business entities and bank accounts.

In his 35-page opinion, Justice Arthur F. Engoron tore apart what he called the Trump family’s “bogus arguments” and obstreperous conduct. And he summed up the entire defense as “a fantasy world, not the real world.”

“In defendants’ world: rent regulated apartments are worth the same as unregulated apartments; restricted land is worth the same as unrestricted land, restricts can evaporate into thin air… all illegal acts are untimely if they stem from one untimely act; and square footage [is] subjective,” he wrote.

Trump Tries to Strike Down New York AG Case Before It Starts

Trump, several of his heirs, and top executives will now be fighting off accusations of bank and insurance fraud at a civil trial that’s scheduled to run from early October until late December. AG Letitia James seeks to punish them all for routinely lying about property values to score better deals. At trial, it will be up to Judge Engoron alone whether the Trumps will owe $250 million-plus in penalties, be prohibited from serving as executives, and have the company charters revoked.

In a scathing statement posted to Truth Social on Tuesday night, the former president described himself, his family and supporters as victims of a “widespread, radical attack that has now devolved to new, un-American depths.” He described Judge Engoron as “DERANGED” and alleged he was simply doing James’ “bidding.”

“Today’s action is a refutation of my status as the leading Candidate for President of the United States,” he fumed. “It is a terrible reminder that the Radical Left Democrats will stop at nothing in trying to prevent me, and the American people, from winning the 2024 Presidential Election. Regardless of Party, we cannot let this happen in the United States of America!”

Trump alleged that as his lead in the polls over Biden grows higher, his enemies are becoming “more and more desperate and dangerous.”

At a court hearing last week, lawyers on both sides tried to convince the judge to grant them each a total victory to avoid much of the trial. Engoron decided against that, rejecting the Trumps’ request to dismiss the case entirely and the AG’s request to have a trial solely on damages.

On Tuesday, Engoron ripped the Trumps—and their lawyers—apart for dragging this on so long with legal arguments that wasted the courts time by repeatedly questioning whether the AG even had the authority to hold them accountable this way.

Those arguments “glaringly misrepresent” the law and trying them again and again “invoke the time-loop in the film Groundhog Day,’” the judge wrote, calling attempts to topple the case this way “pure sophistry.”

Engoron also made the pivotal decision to keep all of the AG’s lawsuit intact, concluding that all of the real estate deals in question are not too old for law enforcement to crack down on for bank fraud. He brushed off the Trumps’ attempt to whittle down the lawsuit ahead of a trial that could drain the wealthy family’s bank accounts.

The timing of this decision also throws a wrench into the Trumps’ Hail Mary play, in which they sued the judge directly and prematurely asked a state appellate court to intervene because he hadn’t yet made his decision on the statute of limitations—an oddly aggressive move that reeked of delay tactics. That higher court, the appellate division’s First Judicial Department, has yet to weigh in. Doing so now might be a moot point. As such, the trial appears to be set to start next Monday, as planned.

Trump, His Kids, and His Bankers: New York AG Lays Out Witnesses in Case

The judge seemed particularly annoyed at what he described as the Trumps’ inability to run their business ethically. He had previously assigned a former federal judge to oversee aspects of the Trump Organization to ensure that it did not slyly shift assets ahead of the trial—only to discover that executives wouldn't let the court-appointed monitor do her job.

“Even with a preliminary injunction in place, and with an independent monitor overseeing their compliance, defendants have continued to disseminate false and misleading information while conducting business,” he wrote.

The judge said that canceling the business certificate was justified.

“This ongoing flouting of this court’s prior order, combined with the persistent nature of the false [statements of financial condition] year after year, have demonstrated the necessity of canceling the certificates,” he added.

The judge struck down every defense Trump and his lawyers raised during the course of the AG’s three-year investigation and in the year since she filed her lawsuit.

For example, Engoron stopped Trump from leaning on dubious disclaimers from his longtime outside accountants at MazarsUSA, which indicated that they hadn’t actually audited his personal financial statements. In court, his lawyers kept pushing the idea that Trump wasn’t really bound by basic rules called Generally Accepted Accounting Principles, known as “GAAP.” The judge was having none of it.

“These non-party disclaimers do not insulate defendants from liability, as they plainly state that ‘Donald J. Trump is responsible for the preparation and fair presentation of the financial statement in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America,’” Engoron wrote.

And in what’s become a recurring theme in this case—one that has annoyed the judge repeatedly—it was clear that the Trumps were pointing to evidence that said the exact opposite of what they were trying to prove.

“In sum, the Mazars disclaimers put the onus for accuracy squarely on defendants’ shoulders,” Engoron wrote.

(Mazars dropped the Trump Organization as a client last year and disavowed their previous work by pointing to his untrustworthy personal financial statement.)

In his decision on Tuesday, Engoron also decided to impose sanctions on the Trumps’ lawyers over the AG’s accusations that they have acted unprofessionally by raising ridiculous arguments and delaying the case this long. AG investigators have been digging into the Trumps’ finances for more than three years and have been slowed down at every turn by a company that has refused to turn over documents and Trump family members who wouldn’t show up for official interviews. The family’s procrastination and obstruction efforts forced the judge to intervene several times, at one point ordering the former president himself to pay $110,000 in fines.

“Unfortunately, sanctions are the only way to impress upon defendants’ attorneys the consequences of engaging in repetitive, frivolous motion practice after this court, affirmed by the appellate division, expressly warned them against doing so,” he wrote.

He ordered the entire Trump legal team—Michael Madaio, Clifford S. Robert, Michael Farina, Christopher Kise, and Armen Morian—to each pay $7,500, a punishment that will also serve as a blemish on their professional records.

In short everything that everyone has been saying about Trump being a crooked, lying piece of shit was accurate.

This will put a huge monkey wrench in his finances, and makes him personally liable for its debts. He can't hide behind the corporations any more.

[RandomGuy]

Trump Wolf of Wall Street domestic stuff and tax fraud in NYC vs. Biden foreign money laundering, bribery, espionage, and treason.

Trump remains the lesser of the two evils.

"wolf of wall street", more like bernie madoff of real estate. :lol

and Biden:

Republican star witness at the impeach inquiry says there wasn't actually any evidence of crimes, so that stuff is pure fantasy.

Do you know how stupid spouting delusional bullshit like that make you sound?

[Ef-man]

In short everything that everyone has been saying about Trump being a crooked, lying piece of shit was accurate.

This will put a huge monkey wrench in his finances, and makes him personally liable for its debts. He can't hide behind the corporations any more.

Can you dummy this down so the even MAGAs on ST can understand and save us all from text walls?

Maybe a captioned picture of a dog (named Judge) screwing a duck (named Donald), you know, something with pictures.

[RandomGuy]

Can you dummy this down so the even MAGAs on ST can understand and save us all from text walls?

Maybe a captioned picture of a dog (named Judge) screwing a duck (named Donald), you know, something with pictures.

unga bunga Trump no tell truth good. trump say fake words to get cash

Does that work? I tried not to use words with more than one syllable.

[FrostKing]

Does anyone here have a Job?

Living vicariously thru 24/7 news cycles.

[Winehole23]

The guy who gets online frequently to twit other people for being too online is kind of hacky.

[Tyronn Lue]

There's always The Apprentice.

[Thread]

There's always The Apprentice.


& you can bet they'll go after those residuals as soon as they're cleared to do so. That's money from home.

[Tyronn Lue]

lol orange jumpsuit soon!



https://youtu.be/A5aiOuOd-Uw?si=2i4nBHcH0YoVAsa-



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[Thread]

The guy who gets online frequently to twit other people for being too online is kind of hacky.

Don't give me that shit, you battled me the other night for 3 hours middle of the night when everybody was fast asleep. "Oh, Dale, I hate you." "Oh, Dale, I have a job, but I don't know." "Oh, Dale, kiss my mouth." "Oh, Dale."

[Thread]

Does anyone here have a Job?

Living vicariously thru 24/7 news cycles.

Winester got one the other day and was braggin' up a storm night before last about it. "I really haven't got the time to school you anymore, Dale, but it's wrong for you to exist on earth, so, I must work & battle you. It's my duty. Let's argue, okay?"

[Ef-man]

https://youtu.be/U9uk6NHK-AE

[Ef-man]

Different case but the flipping begins and Yam Tits is further fucked :lol

https://x.com/MSNBC/status/1707852736228716671

[scott]

Does anyone here have a Job?

Living vicariously thru 24/7 news cycles.

I'm the Prime Minister of Poland

[clambake]

I'm the Prime Minister of Poland

Lol

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

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"They say."

[Ef-man]

Yam Tits is getting fucked raw on this!!!! Not even Preparation-H will soothe his ass! :lol

A New York judge’s sweeping ruling on Tuesday punishing Donald Trump for years of alleged business fraud could force the former president to sell the New York real estate empire he built over decades that helped catapult him to fame, television stardom and the White House.

The decision in a civil case accusing Trump of illegally inflating his property values orders the cancellation of his New York business licenses, potentially wresting from his control of dozens of properties worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

“The judge has said this is a matter of such urgency that these LLCs need to stop operating right now,” said Celia Bigoness, a professor at Cornell Law School.

At trial beginning next week, Engoron will consider even bigger penalties that James has requested, among them $250 million in fines; a prohibition on Trump and the company from obtaining new loans by any bank chartered in New York for five years; and a ban on Trump, his adult sons and executives from operating or owning businesses in the state in the future.

“The primary reason the judge imposed this is because he felt the remedies put in place so far haven’t been enough and that in his view President Trump continued to inflate the value of his properties even after the start of the litigation,” said Robert G. Heim, a partner at the New York law firm of Tarter Krinsky & Drogin who has closely followed the Trump case. “And it just escalated to the point where the judge felt there was no other remedy that could be imposed short of such a drastic, drastic remedy.”

“The New York state properties will be sold off almost certainly,” said Marcel Kahan, a New York University law professor. The receiver would probably work with Trump to maximize the sale of his New York assets, or to keep them with other family members, such as Trump’s wife, Melania, or daughter Ivanka, who was removed from the case and is not subject to the rulings.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/Yam-Tits-Screwed-Raw (https://www.washingtonpost.com/?reload=true&itid=force_refresh&_=1696034334671)

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

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"They say."

...

[pgardn]

Does anyone here have a Job?

Living vicariously thru 24/7 news cycles.

You cannot be serious...


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Can you?
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[FrostKing]

You cannot be serious...


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I just posted in you crying in the college football forum

[Ef-man]

Clark is getting the rough fuck treatment from the DA, no chocolates nor flowers, no sir!

https://x.com/murraywaas/status/1707914976537567298

https://x.com/murraywaas/status/1707923497840714219

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[Dirks_Finale]

Does anyone here have a Job?

Living vicariously thru 24/7 news cycles.

Probably half of them.

The other half are on disability. No busy person has the amount of time to post here like some of these folks do lol

The positive aspect of this is, if you want breaking news on all things Donald J Trump, you can get it here first from the liberals who claim that they aren't at all triggered by him :lol

[Spurs Homer]

I just love the smell of ^

MAGA TEARZ in the morning!



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[Ef-man]

I just love the smell of ^

MAGA TEARZ in the morning!



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Just amazing how when orange jesus gets insulted for being the asshole that he is, the MAGAs clutch their pearls defensively and deflect like a mofo. :lol

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[Spurs Homer]

Just amazing how when orange jesus gets insulted for being the asshole that he is, the MAGAs clutch their pearls defensively and deflect like a mofo. :lol

lol

whining that trump haters have tds and whining about factual posts of criminal behavior by their cult daddy

yet


thousands of whiny posts IN DEFENSE OF CRIMES COMMITTED

is somehow NOT tds!


hahahahahahajaha!

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Trump is being stripped of his corporate brand.

To put this in perspective for our dissociating trolls, that would be like losing your capability of pretending to be someone you are not and having to represent who you really are.

[Thread]

Trump is being stripped of his corporate brand.

To put this in perspective for our dissociating trolls, that would be like losing your capability of pretending to be someone you are not and having to represent who you really are.

Well, that's what he gets for making President, Lumps. That'll teach him, and any other smart fuck that gets a mind to rush the gate and make President.

"This is a closed circuitPERIOD"

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

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"They say."


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[Thread]

Trump is being stripped of his corporate brand.

To put this in perspective for our dissociating trolls, that would be like losing your capability of pretending to be someone you are not and having to represent who you really are.

Just have to pray that he's cashing out (and I mean cash-cash/$20 bills) and giving it to his (blooded) grandchildren.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dale, I got two responses. So my point got through. Good.

[Ef-man]

lol

whining that trump haters have tds and whining about factual posts of criminal behavior by their cult daddy

yet


thousands of whiny posts IN DEFENSE OF CRIMES COMMITTED

is somehow NOT tds!


hahahahahahajaha!

What is even more funny is that are really going to be selling Yam Tits' shit!!!! :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[Thread]

Dale, I got two responses. So my point got through. Good.

Absolutely. I never hide my shit, ever. It's my religion.

[Blake]

Probably half of them.

The other half are on disability. No busy person has the amount of time to post here like some of these folks do lol

The positive aspect of this is, if you want breaking news on all things Donald J Trump, you can get it here first from the liberals who claim that they aren't at all triggered by him :lol

Lol u have 4000 posts here

[Blake]

Trump is being stripped of his corporate brand.

To put this in perspective for our dissociating trolls, that would be like losing your capability of pretending to be someone you are not and having to represent who you really are.

A lot of these fools here are already distancing themselves from Trump. They'll never outright admit it but you can sense the change in tone from Trump shield to sniping ad hominem.

[koriwhat]

A lot of these fools here are already distancing themselves from Trump. They'll never outright admit it but you can sense the change in tone from Trump shield to sniping ad hominem.

The desperation... Is it the same desperation as your failed marriage?

[Dirks_Finale]

Lol u have 4000 posts here

Over a period of 5 years. Do the math.

You have 75k and probably 5 more alts with 75k more posts. Quite a bit, even for an 06 start date.

Now tell me how Trump has totally not triggered you, ever.:rolleyes

[Winehole23]

First president who tried to overturn an election extralegally somewhat triggered me, must admit. We never had an attempted autocoup before Trump.

His abysmal corruption and incompetence also impressed me.

[Winehole23]

The docs case is another outlier, no one ever did that before either.

[Winehole23]

If you're not triggered by those three things, you're a stranger to the American system of government imho.

[Winehole23]

Seems to me some folks here are triggered by Trump's legal responsibility for what he did and people who post it in real time -- current events

Y'all's current events allergy is very telling in a current events forum.

[Winehole23]

In passing, Trump is also the most profuse liar and confabulator we've ever had as president. No one else even comes close.

[Winehole23]

If these things don't trigger you, you're either stupid, oblivious, or an enemy of the American way. Or all three.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[Ef-man]

And they is selling his shit! :lol

[Thread]

And they is selling his shit! :lol

lmemulatedao!!!

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[HemisfairArena]

Over a period of 5 years. Do the math.

You have 75k and probably 5 more alts with 75k more posts. Quite a bit, even for an 06 start date.

Now tell me how Trump has totally not triggered you, ever.:rolleyes


Yep,,,,i call all these posters out all the time on here with their post counts. I mean,,,what a pathetic life,,,,i actually dont even care what political party you support just go live a life for christ sakes. How the hell are you thinking about this place and posting on this site 24/7 unless you dont have a productive life and a wife/husband,,,girlfriend/boyfriend?,,,,i mean get the fuck off here once in a while and do something!

[HemisfairArena]

My post count is over 5,000 in 11 years so thats averaging less than 500 posts a year which would be less than 2 posts a day,,,,there are posters on here that do 5000 posts in 6 months,,,,,,lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Yep,,,,i call all these posters out all the time on here with their post counts. I mean,,,what a pathetic life,,,,i actually dont even care what political party you support just go live a life for christ sakes. How the hell are you thinking about this place and posting on this site 24/7 unless you dont have a productive life and a wife/husband,,,girlfriend/boyfriend?,,,,i mean get the fuck off here once in a while and do something!


good advice!


oh wait- arent you the guy that used his time - to become a FELON?

gtfo

[RandomGuy]

If these things don't trigger you, you're either stupid, oblivious, or an enemy of the American way. Or all three.

This.

[RandomGuy]

My post count is over 5,000 in 11 years so thats averaging less than 500 posts a year which would be less than 2 posts a day,,,,there are posters on here that do 5000 posts in 6 months,,,,,,lmao

Your count of thoughtful things worth responding to is very very low, whatever your count is.

Not sure why trolling is your thing, but it makes you read like an idiot.

[MultiTroll]

My post count is over 5,000 in 11 years so thats averaging less than 500 posts a year which would be less than 2 posts a day,,,,there are posters on here that do 5000 posts in 6 months,,,,,,lmao
Your log in / log out count is over 500 a day. :lmao

[MultiTroll]

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1hvC87.img?w=534&h=356&m=6&x=1196&y=534&s=624&d=624
Artie Engoron
The judge who isn't putting up with any of Donalds bullshit head games in the NY Lettie James settlement case.

Ex cabbie, workin man.
Not gonna be bought off by any of Dunceolds extorted money.

[Thread]

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1hvC87.img?w=534&h=356&m=6&x=1196&y=534&s=624&d=624
Artie Engoron
The judge who isn't putting up with any of Donalds bullshit head games in the NY Lettie James settlement case.

Ex cabbie, workin man.
Not gonna be bought off by any of Dunceolds extorted money.

Well, that's what he gets for making President, eh, Mult?

Trump President.
Not Clinton.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Ef-man]

https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1hvC87.img?w=534&h=356&m=6&x=1196&y=534&s=624&d=624
Artie Engoron
The judge who isn't putting up with any of Donalds bullshit head games in the NY Lettie James settlement case.

Ex cabbie, workin man.
Not gonna be bought off by any of Dunceolds extorted money.

100% Respect.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Blake]

Over a period of 5 years. Do the math.

You have 75k and probably 5 more alts with 75k more posts. Quite a bit, even for an 06 start date.

Now tell me how Trump has totally not triggered you, ever.:rolleyes

Lol you've been posting here 5 years.

[Blake]

Yep,,,,i call all these posters out all the time on here with their post counts. I mean,,,what a pathetic life,,,,i actually dont even care what political party you support just go live a life for christ sakes. How the hell are you thinking about this place and posting on this site 24/7 unless you dont have a productive life and a wife/husband,,,girlfriend/boyfriend?,,,,i mean get the fuck off here once in a while and do something!

You've been posting here since 2012 and you're here in a late Saturday night. What does your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend think about that?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Have to love people using multiple accounts resorting to post count smack for attention.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Brazil]

There’s definitely an element of “everyone does it” in terms of Trump inflating or deflating asset values depending on whether he’s talking to a bank he’s trying to get a loan from or a tax assessor, but there’s an art to doing it creatively and not in a way that’s overly blatant (eg, using a discounted cash flow valuation for a bank loan appraisal & then using replacement cost when you’re dealing with a tax assessor).

From the looks of it the Trump Org went way beyond how it’s typically done and outright used fraudulent valuation assumptions (eg, saying his Manhattan condo was 3x larger than it actually was) to inflate asset values which opened himself up to this.

Do I think NY is going after him for something that it wouldn’t go after any other real estate developer / investor for? Yes. Do I think Trump made it extremely easy for NY to go after him by using bullshit valuations that go way beyond what any other real estate developer does to inflate its balance sheet? Also yes.

Discounted cash flow is such a BS valuation, this method should never be used for tax or loan purposes as it is easily manipulated. Usually it gives a fundation for a transaction M&A where both parties have fun trying to get to the price they feel comfortable with. I'm having some interesting back and forth on growth rate of end value with a seller based on gut feelings :lol he has 150 m in mind, I have 100 m.. it will end up at 125 m but yeah let's try a calculus so that egos are not hurt :lol

[Brazil]

On a side note, the news are horrible everyday, at least Trump is giving us a bit of fun. Hopefully he gets fucked badly for the lols and trumptards outrage :lol

[Ef-man]

Yam Tits is in NY on bent knees as the shit got real. :lol

He is listed on the witness lists submitted by the New York Attorney General and Trump’s legal team.

In civil cases defendants can be called to testify and, if they refuse the jury, or in this case the judge, can use that against them in weighing the evidence. :wow

https://www.cnn.com/yam-tits-fraud-trial-new-york (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-fraud-trial-new-york-10-02-23)

[Spurs Homer]

Loser



https://youtu.be/SjwzT6M73pM?si=Rq3gQOzh92552Izm


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[Ef-man]

Loser



https://youtu.be/SjwzT6M73pM?si=Rq3gQOzh92552Izm


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He threw one of his kids under the bus:

During Yam Tits' April deposition, he said that Eric had become "much more involved" in the financial side of The Trump Organization over the past few years. :lol

[Winehole23]

:lol

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[CosmicCowboy]

Trumps an idiot. He already knows he lost so he just verbally and very publically character assasinated the AG and the judge right before the trial started. Bet the judge slams him.

[Leetonidas]

:lol

1708855856412987796

:lmao this is what happens when you have to scrape the bottom of the barrel for legal counsel

[Spurs Homer]

He threw one of his kids under the bus:

During Yam Tits' April deposition, he said that Eric had become "much more involved" in the financial side of The Trump Organization over the past few years. :lol

he “barely even knew him”

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[Thread]

Trumps an idiot. He already knows he lost so he just verbally and very publically character assasinated the AG and the judge right before the trial started. Bet the judge slams him.

He *"found out" that tact...when he *"fucked around" and made President.

*Effy's shit.

[Ef-man]

he “barely even knew him”

“I don’t know him. I saw him sitting, in one picture, at a table with me. That’s the — that’s the only thing I know about him,” he said.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Ef-man]

Yam Tits’ lawyer is on crack!

"Doral would sell for at least a billion dollars. Mar-a-Lago at least a billion,” Habba said.
“The value is what someone is willing to pay. The Trump properties are Mona Lisa properties,” she added. “That is not fraud, that is real estate.”

[Spurs Homer]

Yam Tits’ lawyer is on crack!

"Doral would sell for at least a billion dollars. Mar-a-Lago at least a billion,” Habba said.
“The value is what someone is willing to pay. The Trump properties are Mona Lisa properties,” she added. “That is not fraud, that is real estate.”

it would be funny as fuck if someone in florida would investigate to see if the criminal paid taxes on a billion

for moscow-a-lago

[baseline bum]

Trumps an idiot. He already knows he lost so he just verbally and very publically character assasinated the AG and the judge right before the trial started. Bet the judge slams him.

Still gonna win the primary

[Monostradamus]

Still gonna win the primary
Probably the election too.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Spurs Homer]

Trump whine team whining and lying and whining and whining


:cry
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Whiny piece of shit traitor: “she ran for office and said she would get trump whah whine whimper”

AG PATRIOT: “promises made- PROMISES KEPT!”


bwahahahahahahahaha!

[baseline bum]

Probably the election too.

It's funny seeing Trump try to run from the left again like he did in 2016. And I can see enough Americans being stupid enough to buy it just like 2016 even though to anyone with a room temperature IQ it was clear he would govern from the hard right.

[Thread]

it would be funny as fuck if someone in florida would investigate to see if the criminal paid taxes on a billion

for moscow-a-lago

The I.R.S. has had him under an audit for 20 years and he's clean as a whistle from Kresge's.

[Thread]

It's funny seeing Trump try to run from the left again like he did in 2016. And I can see enough Americans being stupid enough to buy it just like 2016 even though to anyone with a room temperature IQ it was clear he would govern from the hard right.

He's out ta fuck ya's, bum.

& more power to him.

[Thread]

Trump whine team whining and lying and whining and whining


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Whiny piece of shit traitor: “she ran for office and said she would get trump whah whine whimper”

AG PATRIOT: “promises made- PROMISES KEPT!”


bwahahahahahahahaha!

I'd scream loud & long, Homer. Absolutely, & till-the-grave, sonny-boy. & nobody would be spared. Nary a one. Nary.

[Thread]

Yam Tits’ lawyer is on crack!

"Doral would sell for at least a billion dollars. Mar-a-Lago at least a billion,” Habba said.
“The value is what someone is willing to pay. The Trump properties are Mona Lisa properties,” she added. “That is not fraud, that is real estate.”

In the end the SC will decide the lion's share of this minutiae. Just have to pray that when the decisions are rendered it's from the same majority it stands at now.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[CosmicCowboy]

Wow. Looks like the judge is about to throw out about 80% of the case on the statute of limitations.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Thread]

Wow. Looks like the judge is about to throw out about 80% of the case on the statute of limitations.


Then the next judge will re-institute the aforementioned 80% like toot sweet.

Why?

Simple, Trump made President.

[spurraider21]

Wow. Looks like the judge is about to throw out about 80% of the case on the statute of limitations.
did you get the 80% figure from anywhere other than trump himself?

[Blake]

did you get the 80% figure from anywhere other than trump himself?

He got it from NewsMax

[Thread]

did you get the 80% figure from anywhere other than trump himself?


He got it from NewsMax

& now both you, Blake, & 21 are as nervous as a couple a sissies at Boy's Town.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[ElNono]

https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/2e6756c/2147483647/strip/true/crop/5888x3925+0+0/resize/1260x840!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fa8%2Fde%2 F32a989cf4ccba1afcc37a101fc04%2Ftrump-fraud-lawsuit-81362.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Blake]

https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/2e6756c/2147483647/strip/true/crop/5888x3925+0+0/resize/1260x840!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fa8%2Fde%2 F32a989cf4ccba1afcc37a101fc04%2Ftrump-fraud-lawsuit-81362.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Who's the evil professor sitting behind Trump a few spots down from Eric?

[Spurs Homer]

AG Tish James: “Promises made…Fucking PROMISES KEPT, BITCH!”



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[CosmicCowboy]

did you get the 80% figure from anywhere other than trump himself?

The judge said anything before 2017. Where do you get your news?

[spurraider21]

The judge said anything before 2017. Where do you get your news?
where did you get 80%?

[baseline bum]

He's out ta fuck ya's, bum.

& more power to him.

He's fucking you too

[Thread]

He's fucking you too

You couldn't drag me away, bum.

[RandomGuy]

The company owns his plane. oops.

“It's very unfair I don't have a jury"

Trump “forgot” to say that the reason he doesn't have a jury is because his genius lawyers forgot to ask one.

:lol

[pgardn]

He's fucking you too

It’s all about revenge.
Make up some scenario that “please tread on me” has been screwed and then the end of life goal is to blow it all up.
Today’s old white man nearing the end of life. Pity…

[pgardn]

“It's very unfair I don't have a jury"

Trump “forgot” to say that the reason he doesn't have a jury is because his genius lawyers forgot to ask one.

:lol

Imo this was calculated.
You are fked in the case so set up for a lie that your followers will believe and continue to do so.
Its worked before.

[Thread]

It’s all about revenge.
Make up some scenario that “please tread on me” has been screwed and then the end of life goal is to blow it all up.
Today’s old white man nearing the end of life. Pity…


...

- "You'll play hell gettin' it done."
- Randolph Scott - "Ride the High Country"

[spurraider21]

The judge said anything before 2017. Where do you get your news?
Maybe you should stop getting your legal news directly from the mouth of Donald fucking trump :lol

1709209740616552509

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Ef-man]

Maybe you should stop getting your legal news directly from the mouth of Donald fucking trump :lol

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Damn! When has Yam Tits not made false financial statements!!!!

[CosmicCowboy]

Maybe you should stop getting your legal news directly from the mouth of Donald fucking trump :lol

1709209740616552509

I posted that yesterday after the judge himself brought up the issue of statute of limitations and the year 2017. Your article clearly states he "cleared up" the statement today.

[spurraider21]

I posted that yesterday after the judge himself brought up the issue of statute of limitations and the year 2017. Your article clearly states he "cleared up" the statement today.
you said 80% of the case was thrown out because donald trump said so :lol

judge probably felt the need to clear it up because of the bullshit reporting following trump's comments

[CosmicCowboy]

you said 80% of the case was thrown out because donald trump said so :lol

judge probably felt the need to clear it up because of the bullshit reporting following trump's comments

So? it was reported yesterday as news. It was cleared up today. Big fucking deal.

[spurraider21]

So? it was reported yesterday as news. It was cleared up today. Big fucking deal.
:lmao

show me the news reporting from yesterday that 80% of the case was dismissed

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So? it was reported yesterday as news. It was cleared up today. Big fucking deal.

CC just vet your source next time.

[Spurminator]

If these things don't trigger you, you're either stupid, oblivious, or an enemy of the American way. Or all three.

They're just more triggered by the libs. The whole MAGA routine is a deflection for very emotional, angry people who are leading disappointing lives. They can't be bothered by a President trying to stage a coup because they're more concerned about drag queens.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Spurs Homer]

Judge Engoron issues trump a gag order

ordering the disgusting criminal traitor kunt whiny assclown to….


STFU!


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[ChumpDumper]

Judge Engoron issues trump a gag order

ordering the disgusting criminal traitor kunt whiny assclown to….


STFU!


:elephant
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Trump says he can still talk about 80% of the case.

[Spurs Homer]

Trump says he can still talk about 80% of the case.

lol

and appeal 80% of his guilty of fraud judgement!

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Ef-man]

Et tu Forbes?!

Donald Trump Drops Off The Forbes 400 For Second Time In 3 Years.

And NY fraud court case will screw him over, bigly! :lol

[Thread]

Et tu Forbes?!

Donald Trump Drops Off The Forbes 400 For Second Time In 3 Years.

And NY fraud court case will screw him over, bigly! :lol

Big deal, the U.S. just dropped their credit rating.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Winehole23]

Et tu Forbes?!

Donald Trump Drops Off The Forbes 400 For Second Time In 3 Years.

And NY fraud court case will screw him over, bigly! :lolreportedly, Trump's whole reason for overstating his value -- besides getting favorable terms on loans -- was to maintain his position in the Forbes 400.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[Ef-man]

reportedly, Trump's whole reason for overstating his value -- besides getting favorable terms on loans -- was to maintain his position in the Forbes 400.

What an ego!

[RandomGuy]

So? it was reported yesterday as news. It was cleared up today. Big fucking deal.

the republicans are pretty simple and straightforward.

They say "i want you to be very miserable. and i want you to be very angry. and i want you to vote for us, and we'll make it worse, but we'll blame the democrats."

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

...

[Thread]

the republicans are pretty simple and straightforward.

They say "i want you to be very miserable. and i want you to be very angry. and i want you to vote for us, and we'll make it worse, but we'll blame the democrats."


You're nary better. Nary. Trump wins and immediately you threaten to blow him, his wife and their only child up.
You're nary better. Nary. Trump gets in there without getting blown up and you threaten to cut his head off.
You're nary better. Nary. Trump gets threatened by the highest ranking soldier in American Democracy/Gen Milley by shooting said Trump to death.



Nary.

[Thread]

"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


...They say."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

A day after receiving a tongue lashing from a judge disturbed by Donald Trump’s insolence outside the New York courtroom, the former president began to make exasperated remarks inside the court, as the third day of his bank fraud trial started Wednesday.

The increasingly furious Trump—whose real estate empire has already received the kiss of death from the judge—remained quiet during the first two days of proceedings, instead choosing to rail against the entire justice system outside the room’s wooden doors. But when Justice Arthur F. Engoron noted that typical formalities could be cast aside because there’s no jury here, Trump began to grumble and angrily folded his arms while staring at the judge.

Trump turned to defense lawyer Alina Habba at his left to complain in loud groans—this reporter could only make out the words “no jury!”—then threw his arms up and shook his head.

The former president then let out an annoyed sigh and slumped forward, stretching his dark blue suit jacket.

Just before the trial got underway on Wednesday, he was even louder online, where he wrote, “I am not even entitled, under any circumstances, to a JURY. This Witch Hunt cannot be allowed to continue. It is Election Interference and the start of Communism right here in America!”

Minutes later, Trump then complained in court that he couldn’t make out what was being said by the witness on the stand: his longtime former accountant Donald Bender, who became a state witness and disavowed much of the work he did for the Trump Organization and its vastly inflated assets. The testimony could be perceived as a betrayal given that Bender made millions at the firm Mazars USA by working for the Trump family, which invited him to golf courses, hotels, and parties.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-finally-brings-online-rage-150017870.html

[Thread]

A day after receiving a tongue lashing from a judge disturbed by Donald Trump’s insolence outside the New York courtroom, the former president began to make exasperated remarks inside the court, as the third day of his bank fraud trial started Wednesday.

The increasingly furious Trump—whose real estate empire has already received the kiss of death from the judge—remained quiet during the first two days of proceedings, instead choosing to rail against the entire justice system outside the room’s wooden doors. But when Justice Arthur F. Engoron noted that typical formalities could be cast aside because there’s no jury here, Trump began to grumble and angrily folded his arms while staring at the judge.

Trump turned to defense lawyer Alina Habba at his left to complain in loud groans—this reporter could only make out the words “no jury!”—then threw his arms up and shook his head.

The former president then let out an annoyed sigh and slumped forward, stretching his dark blue suit jacket.

Just before the trial got underway on Wednesday, he was even louder online, where he wrote, “I am not even entitled, under any circumstances, to a JURY. This Witch Hunt cannot be allowed to continue. It is Election Interference and the start of Communism right here in America!”

Minutes later, Trump then complained in court that he couldn’t make out what was being said by the witness on the stand: his longtime former accountant Donald Bender, who became a state witness and disavowed much of the work he did for the Trump Organization and its vastly inflated assets. The testimony could be perceived as a betrayal given that Bender made millions at the firm Mazars USA by working for the Trump family, which invited him to golf courses, hotels, and parties.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-finally-brings-online-rage-150017870.html

Good, anything goes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Trump is all about loyalty. He was seething listening to him spill his secrets.

Don't both parties have to agree to waive their right to a jury trial?

[Thread]

Trump is all about loyalty. He was seething listening to him spill his secrets.

Don't both parties have to agree to waive their right to a jury trial?

Absolutely. & about meting out revenge.

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump is all about loyalty. He was seething listening to him spill his secrets.

Don't both parties have to agree to waive their right to a jury trial?

As I understand it, Trump was confident the disclaimer on the audit would get him off the hook on the charges and agreed to a trial by judge because it is typically faster than a jury trial and he could "get it out of the way" quicker. A strategic fuckup.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

As I understand it, Trump was confident the disclaimer on the audit would get him off the hook on the charges and agreed to a trial by judge because it is typically faster than a jury trial and he could "get it out of the way" quicker. A strategic fuckup.

Shitty lawyers. I'm pretty sure he didn't do it for the extra money or at least not primarily. I think he did it for the Forbes list. Why anyone would want to vote for that guy?

[Ef-man]

A day after receiving a tongue lashing from a judge disturbed by Donald Trump’s insolence outside the New York courtroom, the former president began to make exasperated remarks inside the court, as the third day of his bank fraud trial started Wednesday.

The increasingly furious Trump—whose real estate empire has already received the kiss of death from the judge—remained quiet during the first two days of proceedings, instead choosing to rail against the entire justice system outside the room’s wooden doors. But when Justice Arthur F. Engoron noted that typical formalities could be cast aside because there’s no jury here, Trump began to grumble and angrily folded his arms while staring at the judge.

Trump turned to defense lawyer Alina Habba at his left to complain in loud groans—this reporter could only make out the words “no jury!”—then threw his arms up and shook his head.

The former president then let out an annoyed sigh and slumped forward, stretching his dark blue suit jacket.

Just before the trial got underway on Wednesday, he was even louder online, where he wrote, “I am not even entitled, under any circumstances, to a JURY. This Witch Hunt cannot be allowed to continue. It is Election Interference and the start of Communism right here in America!”

Minutes later, Trump then complained in court that he couldn’t make out what was being said by the witness on the stand: his longtime former accountant Donald Bender, who became a state witness and disavowed much of the work he did for the Trump Organization and its vastly inflated assets. The testimony could be perceived as a betrayal given that Bender made millions at the firm Mazars USA by working for the Trump family, which invited him to golf courses, hotels, and parties.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-finally-brings-online-rage-150017870.html

No jury. Who is to blame for not telling Yam Tits? :lol

[scott]

A day after receiving a tongue lashing from a judge disturbed by Donald Trump’s insolence outside the New York courtroom, the former president began to make exasperated remarks inside the court, as the third day of his bank fraud trial started Wednesday.

The increasingly furious Trump—whose real estate empire has already received the kiss of death from the judge—remained quiet during the first two days of proceedings, instead choosing to rail against the entire justice system outside the room’s wooden doors. But when Justice Arthur F. Engoron noted that typical formalities could be cast aside because there’s no jury here, Trump began to grumble and angrily folded his arms while staring at the judge.

Trump turned to defense lawyer Alina Habba at his left to complain in loud groans—this reporter could only make out the words “no jury!”—then threw his arms up and shook his head.

The former president then let out an annoyed sigh and slumped forward, stretching his dark blue suit jacket.

Just before the trial got underway on Wednesday, he was even louder online, where he wrote, “I am not even entitled, under any circumstances, to a JURY. This Witch Hunt cannot be allowed to continue. It is Election Interference and the start of Communism right here in America!”

Minutes later, Trump then complained in court that he couldn’t make out what was being said by the witness on the stand: his longtime former accountant Donald Bender, who became a state witness and disavowed much of the work he did for the Trump Organization and its vastly inflated assets. The testimony could be perceived as a betrayal given that Bender made millions at the firm Mazars USA by working for the Trump family, which invited him to golf courses, hotels, and parties.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-finally-brings-online-rage-150017870.html

My guess is that his behavior and the jury trial error are strategic on two parts:

1) favor additional sympathy from the mouth-breathing faction of his base and
2) garner more arguments upon appeal

#2 is likely to fail, but #1 will largely succeed.

[scott]

Trump is all about loyalty. He was seething listening to him spill his secrets.

Don't both parties have to agree to waive their right to a jury trial?

I'm sure it would be common for the state to opt for a bench trial. I'm not sure why they would ever request a jury trial, barring a disastrously judge appointment?

[clambake]

My guess is that his behavior and the jury trial error are strategic on two parts:

1) favor additional sympathy from the mouth-breathing faction of his base and
2) garner more arguments upon appeal

#2 is likely to fail, but #1 will largely succeed.
This

[Thread]

My guess is that his behavior and the jury trial error are strategic on two parts:

1) favor additional sympathy from the mouth-breathing faction of his base and
2) garner more arguments upon appeal

#2 is likely to fail, but #1 will largely succeed.

2) That's it & that's all. With the gravest of caveats; will this SC line-up be the exact same when we need it & will they help him off Walenda's high wire to safety, or, push him off?

[Blake]

My guess is that his behavior and the jury trial error are strategic on two parts:

1) favor additional sympathy from the mouth-breathing faction of his base and
2) garner more arguments upon appeal

#2 is likely to fail, but #1 will largely succeed.

That mouth breathing sympathy tank is already pretty full.

[Thread]

That mouth breathing sympathy tank is already pretty full.

Well, when a man, a sitting President and his family is threatened with being blown up, he is threatened to be decapitated and shot to death sympathy is only human.

[MultiTroll]

So with or without Yam Tits childish rants, where are we at now with this trial?

[Thread]

So with or without Yam Tits childish rants, where are we at now with this trial?

...where you've been since he made President...hunting for a good hemp rope that he'll hold him steady whilst his eyes bug out, his bowels give way and his heart explodes. You'll find nary peace though. Nary.

[MultiTroll]

^ Playing the victim again. :rolleyes

[Ef-man]

So with or without Yam Tits childish rants, where are we at now with this trial?

Today, Yam Tits' lawyers were wasting time asking Yam Tits' former accountant Donald Bender lengthy questions about specifics from 2020 to 2011.

The defense lawyer repeatedly asked the same tedious and detailed questions for each year. They pissed off New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron who said "You're not allowed to waste time. That is what this is becoming."

Imagine pissing off the judge who has determined that Yam Tits has committed fraud and the trial is to determine if Yam Tits gets 12 inches unlubed or stars as one of the two participants in a donkey show (and he is not the donkey).

[Monostradamus]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7nJMvEWYAAmoRs?format=jpg&name=medium

[Spurs Homer]

:lmao:lmao:lmao ^

[MultiTroll]

Excellent find Mono. :toast

Feel free to span Thread to death with that.

[MultiTroll]

Trump on trial not Hillary prawk prawk.

Im incontrollio

[RandomGuy]

Trump on trial not Hillary prawk prawk.

Im incontrollio

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7oUlKBWUAAWv6n?format=jpg&name=medium

[RandomGuy]

I'm sure it would be common for the state to opt for a bench trial. I'm not sure why they would ever request a jury trial, barring a disastrously judge appointment?

My understanding (based on relating what I heard an expert say)
In new york it is incumbent on the defendant simply checking a box in a form. That box was not checked by his lawyer when she submitted it.

Oops.

[scott]

My understanding (based on relating what I heard an expert say)
In new york it is incumbent on the defendant simply checking a box in a form. That box was not checked by his lawyer when she submitted it.

Oops.

Have also read that due to this nature of this damages trial (recall, Trump’s already been found liable as both parties motioned for summary judgement - this is just to establish damages) that it is not really in the defendants best interest to have a jury and that often times requests for juries are denied anyway as a jury is not best equipped to evaluate and decide upon disgorgement.

Opting for a bench trial may not be the error it’s initially made out to be? Do your own research.

[RandomGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7rKazTWAAEpU-h?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

No reason whatsoever. It's real and funny.

[RandomGuy]

Have also read that due to this nature of this damages trial (recall, Trump’s already been found liable as both parties motioned for summary judgement - this is just to establish damages) that it is not really in the defendants best interest to have a jury and that often times requests for juries are denied anyway as a jury is not best equipped to evaluate and decide upon disgorgement.

Opting for a bench trial may not be the error it’s initially made out to be? Do your own research.

Well that would do it. As I said, didn't see the document myself, just relating. Something to chuck at while munching my popcorn.

[Winehole23]

new order drops


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7r0y6paAAAR0i7?format=jpg&name=largehttps://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/fbem/DocumentDisplayServlet?documentId=QTMYc/u0aKtvSXxU/ZmiiQ==&system=prod

[scott]

Well that would do it. As I said, didn't see the document myself, just relating. Something to chuck at while munching my popcorn.

I saw the document, it's a basic intake form basically with a check box for Jury Trial or Bench Trial, and they checked Bench Trial. But it may have been for good reason beyond just being stupid or angling for appeal.

[scott]

https://i.insider.com/651b20ff42ecf94db475c4c4?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp

In case the embed doesn't work: https://i.insider.com/651b20ff42ecf94db475c4c4?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp

[scott]

And from the article where the form is posted (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-no-jury-bench-trial-ny-fraud-case-paperwork-2023-10)


Under the statute where James brought her lawsuit, it wasn't necessarily guaranteed that Trump would have gotten a jury to decide the case. But his lawyers didn't even ask Engoron to consider it.

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Excellent find Mono. :toast

Feel free to span Thread to death with that.

Come to Pappy.

Signed,

- Pappy

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7rKazTWAAEpU-h?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

No reason whatsoever. It's real and funny.

This cocksucker here murdered Putin, I mean murdered Laden on spec.

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"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

https://i.insider.com/651b20ff42ecf94db475c4c4?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp

In case the embed doesn't work: https://i.insider.com/651b20ff42ecf94db475c4c4?width=700&format=jpeg&auto=webp

That is the DAs paperwork. I just don't understand how he can act like he is getting railroaded.

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That is the DAs paperwork. I just don't understand how he can act like he is getting railroaded.

Well, when your first day on the job begins with an assassination attempt upon you, your wife and their only child, a grudge takes hold, dad, and daddy-O it only intensifies as the years tag along.

[CosmicCowboy]

That is the DAs paperwork. I just don't understand how he can act like he is getting railroaded.

Uhhh...this is TRUMP we are talking about. Truth and reality are irrelevant to him.

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Uhhh...this is TRUMP we are talking about. Truth and reality are irrelevant to him.

You're chock full a shit, CC.

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"They say that I got killed...

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg


"They say."

[spurraider21]

Uhhh...this is TRUMP we are talking about. Truth and reality are irrelevant to him.
at least 80% of the time

[scott]

That is the DAs paperwork. I just don't understand how he can act like he is getting railroaded.

Disclaimer, I'm fully playing Devil's advocate here and am doubtful that Trump himself is capable of this degree of thought process, but I believe the complaint would not be with the particulars of this case but rather the system that results in the majority of jury trial requests in disgorgement cases to be rejected. The argument would be that they didn't request a jury because they knew a jury demand would be rejected - and ALL defendants in these cases get railroaded.

I don't actually believe that is what they were thinking, but I could see a more reasonable defendant (who cares about the justice system and not just himself) making.

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Disclaimer, I'm fully playing Devil's advocate here and am doubtful that Trump himself is capable of this degree of thought process, but I believe the complaint would not be with the particulars of this case but rather the system that results in the majority of jury trial requests in disgorgement cases to be rejected. The argument would be that they didn't request a jury because they knew a jury demand would be rejected - and ALL defendants in these cases get railroaded.

I don't actually believe that is what they were thinking, but I could see a more reasonable defendant (who cares about the justice system and not just himself) making.

This [[[justice system]]] is a fuckin' obscene joke, scott. I want that old man to take it apart piece-by-piece, day-by-day as long as he's able. Grab his kids, the blooded ones and they too fuck this justice system.

You're out of your fuckin' mind, Scott, ya fuck, you.

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"They"

https://i.ibb.co/NL1DLpy/20220317-022456.jpg

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Disclaimer, I'm fully playing Devil's advocate here and am doubtful that Trump himself is capable of this degree of thought process, but I believe the complaint would not be with the particulars of this case but rather the system that results in the majority of jury trial requests in disgorgement cases to be rejected. The argument would be that they didn't request a jury because they knew a jury demand would be rejected - and ALL defendants in these cases get railroaded.

I don't actually believe that is what they were thinking, but I could see a more reasonable defendant (who cares about the justice system and not just himself) making.

Jury trial is guaranteed by the 7th amendment. He had to have waived it.

[Will Hunting]

Jury trial is guaranteed by the 7th amendment. He had to have waived it.
I’m not sure about New York State court but this isn’t true for federal court. In federal court you have to timely file a jury demand for civil lawsuits if you want a jury. You don’t automatically get one the way you would in a criminal trial.