We Gotta Talk About That Young MFer Wemby

[DAF86]

Only really bad picks they have made in the last ten years were Milutinov @ 26 in 2015 since he never came over and Primo @ 12 in 2021 since he was an enormous reach no one had going in the first and Sengun was still on the board. Getting Dejounte Murray, Derrick White, and Keldon Johnson with the #29 pick have to all be considered huge steals. Would have been nice to get Haliburton or Maxey in 2020, but Vassell @ 11 was still a pretty good pick since he's starting material and he's better than anyone who went #4 through #10 in that draft. Still not sure what to make of Sochan @ 9 in 2022. Was a complete scrub in the first half of the season but playing his more natural PF role with Tre Jones running point again he's had some good games. Think he'll probably end up a sixth man. Branham @ 20 is bad, oh well picking that late sometimes you get shit. Blake Wesley @ 25 is kind of meh. Excellent perimeter defender but his limited offensive game limits his ceiling to being a backup PG.

We can like the players more or less, but by any objective metric Dejounte, White, Keldon, Vassell, Sochan and Tre have been very good picks. All of those players would have gone way earlier on a re-draft or, at least, mantain their position. With Brahnam and Wesley is still too early to tell. I don't know what the heck djohn2oo8 is on about Spurs' drafts, but as usual he's wrong. I don't know if he has problems understanding what he sees or if just doesn't watch enough NBA yet still likes to run his mouth, tbh.

[baseline bum]

We can like the players more or less, but by any objective metric Dejounte, White, Keldon, Vassell, Sochan and Tre have been very good picks. All of those players would have gone way earlier on a re-draft or, at least, mantain their position. With Brahnam and Wesley is still too early to tell. I don't know what the heck djohn2oo8 is on about Spurs' drafts, but as usual he's wrong. I don't know if he has problems understanding what he sees or if just doesn't watch enough NBA yet still likes to run his mouth, tbh.

Shit I forgot Tre Jones was a second round pick in the 2020 draft.

[LkrFan]

Taking pride in 8 wins :lmao

:lol

[LkrFan]

Rockets the best team in Texas right now.

[baseline bum]

Rockets the best team in Texas right now.

Dallas still 3.5 games up on them. Don't they teach you math on the other side of the river?

[djohn2oo8]

Another Loss. That’s generational.

[LkrFan]

Dallas still 3.5 games up on them. Don't they teach you math on the other side of the river?

N:cry

[Tyronn Lue]

Dallas still 3.5 games up on them. Don't they teach you math on the other side of the river?
The best they've been in since Hakeem, DJ Murray and company ran a train on them in their own house.

[lefty]

:lol destroyed at home by a shorthanded team

[LkrFan]

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You farmers don't deserve this nigglet :lol

[Robz4000]

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You farmers don't deserve this nigglet :lol

:lol says the Laker fan whose talked nothing but shit about him

[LkrFan]

:lol says the Laker fan whose talked nothing but shit about him

:lol

[LkrFan]

That young dude gonna be scary in 2-3 years. Silver messed up. No way David Stern let's him end up in San Antonio :lol

[Tyronn Lue]

That young dude gonna be scary in 2-3 years. Silver messed up. No way David Stern let's him end up in San Antonio :lol
Like David Robinson and Tim Duncan?

[Trainwreck2100]

That young dude gonna be scary in 2-3 years. Silver messed up. No way David Stern let's him end up in San Antonio :lol

Spurs probably the only team trustworthy enough not to fuck him up health wise though, and Silver would know that.

[LkrFan]

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The Kang said some thangs about that young MFer :wow

[LkrFan]

Like David Robinson and Tim Duncan?

Don't remind me :cry

[LkrFan]

Spurs probably the only team trustworthy enough not to fuck him up health wise though, and Silver would know that.

Yeah, Coach Load Management knows what he doing. :lol

[LkrFan]

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:cry

[monosylab1k]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz-4sOpKzgI
:lol

[Tyronn Lue]

Big wet shit tonight, big and wet.

[Bill_Brasky]

:wow

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz-4sOpKzgI
:lol

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[Tyronn Lue]

He did it again tonight.

[LkrFan]

Big wet shit tonight, big and wet.
:lol

[LkrFan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz-4sOpKzgI
:lol

:lol

[Cry Havoc]

Most spurs fans will tell you that they are happy, after this stick averages 14&6 in the season. Overhyped and overrated.
With the coverage this guy was getting he should be an all star.

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[DAF86]

Most spurs fans will tell you that they are happy, after this stick averages 14&6 in the season. Overhyped and overrated.
With the coverage this guy was getting he should be an all star.

Dude, for real, go make it official and change your team to the Mavs, so that you can be free to keep attacking Wemby in fear of him blocking the era that Luka is supossed to dominate, tbh.

[MultiTroll]

:lol
:lol 19 year old
:lol doing it 8 on 1 vs the Lakers

https://youtu.be/ajhD89cHtcI

[MultiTroll]

:lol
:lol 19 year old kid in first game
:lol slob crying for the ghost of Dork to step on Wembys feet.

https://youtu.be/6FGB9Gac89k

[Texas_Ranger]

Dude, for real, go make it official and change your team to the Mavs, so that you can be free to keep attacking Wemby in fear of him blocking the era that Luka is supossed to dominate, tbh.

i've said multiple times that i am not a fan of the Mavs and that they are worse run than the Spurs. I also said it would be good for Luka to want to go somewhere else.... And still, its pathetic to see Spurs fans being so happy just cause of stats, which lead to no wins. The standards have really gotten low.

[DAF86]

i've said multiple times that i am not a fan of the Mavs and that they are worse run than the Spurs. I also said it would be good for Luka to want to go somewhere else.... And still, its pathetic to see Spurs fans being so happy just cause of stats, which lead to no wins. The standards have really gotten low.

You are clearly not a Spurs fan. If you were, you would be paying more attention and realize that we are not giddy because of empty stats, we are giddy because it is obvious that the kid is everything he was hyped up to be and then some. If you were a Spurs fan you would know that the trio of Tre, Vassell and Wemby are a net positive on a team with 12 wins. If you were a Spurs fan you would know that the Spurs have a top 5 rank defense in the league with Wemby on the court, while the worst in league history without him. If you were a Spurs fan you would never say this ignorant bullshit of us being pathetic for being happy about stats that lead to no wins.

You know who's the king of putting up stats without winninng nearly as much as he should, and is already on his 6th season? Your boy.

[Texas_Ranger]

You are clearly not a Spurs fan. If you were, you would be paying more attention and realize that we are not giddy because of empty stats, we are giddy because it is obvious that the kid is everything he was hyped up to be and then some. If you were a Spurs fan you would know that the trio of Tre, Vassell and Wemby are a net positive on a team with 12 wins. If you were a Spurs fan you would know that the Spurs have a top 5 rank defense in the league with Wemby on the court, while the worst in league history without him. If you were a Spurs fan you would never say this ignorant bullshit of us being pathetic for being happy about stats that lead to no wins.

You know who's the king of putting up stats without winninng nearly as much as he should, and is already on his 6th season? Your boy.

yea mate, its pathetic to have 12 wins... sorry that all those things u mentioned and you sucking Spurs cock so much don't lead to wins.

''my boy''?... what does Luka have to do with this anyway? You wanna say that Wemby is a better player or somethig?? Luka went to conference finals with Dwight Powell and Reggie Bullock being starters, while their best 6 man being our for the playoffs... So, yea, Luka's empty stats are sometimes pretty useful.

[DAF86]

yea mate, its pathetic to have 12 wins... sorry that all those things u mentioned and you sucking Spurs cock so much don't lead to wins.

''my boy''?... what does Luka have to do with this anyway? You wanna say that Wemby is a better player or somethig?? Luka went to conference finals with Dwight Powell and Reggie Bullock being starters, while their best 6 man being our for the playoffs... So, yea, Luka's empty stats are sometimes pretty useful.

Trae Young also made the conference finals once, big fucking deal.

What Luka has to do with this is that you are clearly feeling jelous of Wemby taking Luka's spotlight as "the next best thing". It became very obvious when lefty posted a simple graphic showing that Wemby sold more jerseys than Luka to troll Mavs fans and you jumped on him with your panties all in a bunch.

You are here bitching about a rookie not winning as if that was supposed to happen, when the guy that should really be winnig is the suppossed MVP candidate on his 6th season.

Seriously bro, why keeping the facade of being a Spurs fan when you clearly aren't?

[Texas_Ranger]

Trae Young also made the conference finals once, big fucking deal.

What Luka has to do with this is that you are clearly feeling jelous of Wemby taking Luka's spotlight as "the next best thing". It became very obvious when lefty posted a simple graphic showing that Wemby sold more jerseys than Luka to troll Mavs fans and you jumped on him with your panties all in a bunch.

You are here bitching about a rookie not winning as if that was supposed to happen, when the guy that should really be winnig is the suppossed MVP candidate on his 6th season.

Seriously bro, why keeping the facade of being a Spurs fan when you clearly aren't?

i am not even mad at wemby for not winning. I am more upset at the Spurs FO. And i've been saying that for a couple of years... Now is their time to actually make a solid team around a guy that can actually play... Lets see if they don't fuck it up... And while you mentioned Trae... perhaps he could be helpful, if we land him.

[DAF86]

You sounded mad at him here, tbh:


Most spurs fans will tell you that they are happy, after this stick averages 14&6 in the season. Overhyped and overrated.
With the coverage this guy was getting he should be an all star.

[Texas_Ranger]

You sounded mad at him here, tbh:

nope, just underestimated him and i thought Pop would be playing him less minutes...

[lefty]

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By the way, how is Sengun doing ?

[DAF86]

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[Splits]

By the way, how is Sengun doing ?

:lmao

[Thanos]

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:lmao

[Tyronn Lue]

I saw this on ESPN and knew it would be here. Yall mfers predictable AF :lol

[Neo.]

lol he gets dunked on more than shawn bradley

[lefty]

That was a nice poster, I'm not gonna lie

[DAF86]

lol he gets dunked on more than shawn bradley

Every defensive minded center ever has got dunked on multiple times during their career, tbh.

[Neo.]

Every defensive minded center ever has got dunked on multiple times during their career, tbh.

lol russhawn westbradley

[DAF86]

lol russhawn westbradley

There's another Russell Westbrook comparisson that's more appropriate, tbh. The guy stat padding 30 pts triple doubles, playing no defense, fighting to barely get into the playoffs and pretending to win MVP.

[Neo.]

There's an:cryother Russell Westbrook compari:crysson that's more appropriate, t:crybh. The guy stat padding 30 :crypts triple doubles, playing no defense,:cry fighting to barely get into the playoffs and pretending to win MVP.:cry :cry :cry

lol can't even beat rockets without alpershaq sengoneal

[Texas_Ranger]

There's another Russell Westbrook comparisson that's more appropriate, tbh. The guy stat padding 30 pts triple doubles, playing no defense, fighting to barely get into the playoffs and pretending to win MVP.

Luka is actually top 10 in 4 defensive categories and one of the league leaders in steals... Does he put amazing effort on defense? no. Is he one of the worst defenders? also no.

also, why even mentioning Luka all the time, when the Spurs are playing like complete garbage. Can't even defeat the fucking Rockets, without their best player, who raped the defensive powerhouse Wemby... Shouldn't you think about the problems this team has, rather than what Luka is doing... He's been living rent free in your head for over 5 years now. Get over it.

and there really ain't no comparison with Westbrick, as he was shooting 40%, while Luka is shooting 50%.

[lefty]

This thread is a mess, totally disjointed and people are butting heads

We need to take a step back and go back to the basics.


Canadian-American educator and physician James Naismith invented basketball in Springfield, Massachusetts, in 1891

[DAF86]

Luka is actually top 10 in 4 defensive categories and one of the league leaders in steals... Does he put amazing effort on defense? no. Is he one of the worst defenders? also no.

also, why even mentioning Luka all the time, when the Spurs are playing like complete garbage. Can't even defeat the fucking Rockets, without their best player, who raped the defensive powerhouse Wemby... Shouldn't you think about the problems this team has, rather than what Luka is doing... He's been living rent free in your head for over 5 years now. Get over it.

and there really ain't no comparison with Westbrick, as he was shooting 40%, while Luka is shooting 50%.

Because I'm trolling back and forth with Mavs fans like stretch and you, tbh.

[Neo.]

This thread is a mess, totally disjointed and people are butting heads

We need to take a step back and go back to the basics.


Canadian-American educator and physician James Naismith invented basketball in Springfield, Massachusetts, in 1891

you sure it wasn't joe namath, like derp so adamantly claimed?

[Neo.]

Because I'm trolling back and forth with Mavs fans like stretch and you, tbh.

lol backtracking
lol rent free

[Texas_Ranger]

first thing the Spurs need to do is get rid of 90% of the players.

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[Thanos]

first thing the Spurs need to do is get rid of 90% of the players.

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A French center whose teammates hate him? Interesting tbh

He’s just And1 Mixtape Gobert tbh :lol

[chubbs]

if rookie whiteboy luka was able to convince chuckers like wes matthews and harrison barnes to defer to him, omegastar victor "shaqhakeemwiltjordanbronbirdx1000" goatby should have no problem getting these guys to defer to him.

lol non-leader
lol russhawn westbradley
lol his scrub teammates even see it

[Texas_Ranger]

if rookie whiteboy luka was able to convince chuckers like wes matthews and harrison barnes to defer to him, omegastar victor "shaqhakeemwiltjordanbronbirdx1000" goatby should have no problem getting these guys to defer to him.

lol non-leader
lol russhawn westbradley
lol his scrub teammates even see it

The mavs traded the whole starting lineup in lukas rookie season... same thing the spurs should have done tbh.

[chubbs]

tbqh i find it interesting that the spurs returned basically the same squad as last year, have been generally healthy (compared to last year where numerous players missed many games), added wemby to it, yet somehow are managing to finish with a worse record

[Tyronn Lue]

tbqh i find it interesting that the spurs returned basically the same squad as last year, have been generally healthy (compared to last year where numerous players missed many games), added wemby to it, yet somehow are managing to finish with a worse record
If you close your eyes and throw darts at a board, on one set of throws you'll likely have a different score than the other, one more and one less. It doesn't mean your scores are noteworthy. The spurs won the draft lottery because they sucked, and they still suck. You cannot develop a talent with shitty YMCA ballers trying to get an NBA contract.

[LkrFan]

Dr. Dray is a fan of Wemby
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[LkrFan]

tbqh i find it interesting that the spurs returned basically the same squad as last year, have been generally healthy (compared to last year where numerous players missed many games), added wemby to it, yet somehow are managing to finish with a worse record

CIA Pop master tanking class. The real question is who are you farmers targeting in next years draft to pair with Wemby? Y'all ain't slick!!

[baseline bum]

tbqh i find it interesting that the spurs returned basically the same squad as last year, have been generally healthy (compared to last year where numerous players missed many games), added wemby to it, yet somehow are managing to finish with a worse record

I can't really blame it on Wemby when they have a good defense with him on the floor (think it would rank #10 in the league if I remember right) and then are league worst defensively whenever he's not playing. I recall reading their defensive rating was like 129 in games he missed, when they set the alltime record for worst defensive rating in a season ever last year at 120. Think it's a combination of Keldon Johnson and especially Zach Collins hugely regressing and the west getting way better than it was last year. Plus Pop stubbornly starting Sochan and then Malaki Branham at point guard in that 18 game losing streak. They were both horrific at the point, couldn't get the team into any kind of offense, and would commit the dumbest backcourt turnovers. Finally moving Tre Jones to the starting lineup made a huge difference for them. Wemby will still have games where he plays like a rookie turning it over a lot or with pretty bad shot selection but overall he has been a huge plus for the team.

[chubbs]

according to fap wemby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jokic

:lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

amazing defending....

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[Neo.]

amazing defending....

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:rollin he makes luka look like a tryhard on defense

[djohn2oo8]

And a heads up. Wemby was saying this about draft prospects. What the hell is he thinking about his teammates? :lol

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[Tyronn Lue]

The Joker looks like he's playing an exhibition game with a bunch of kids.

[baseline bum]

The Joker looks like he's playing an exhibition game with a bunch of kids.

That's he because he was

[LkrFan]

The Joker looks like he's playing an exhibition game with a bunch of kids.

:lol

[LkrFan]

When Wemby naturally gains about 20lbs of muscle, it's over. Eff the Spurs tho :tu

[Tyronn Lue]

When Wemby naturally gains about 20lbs of muscle, it's over. Eff the Spurs tho :tu
20lbs on him isn't a lot, but he doesn't really need that. He needs to not be the best player on both ends of the floor in his rookie year.

[chubbs]

at his height he needs 60-70 lbs (dude came in under 210). which is why hes not going to last long in the league as a star.

[Tyronn Lue]

at his height he needs 60-70 lbs (dude came in under 210). which is why hes not going to last long in the league as a star.
Everyone wants to take a unicorn and change him to a horse. Horses we can use.

[Thread]

20lbs on him isn't a lot, but he doesn't really need that. He needs to not be the best player on both ends of the floor in his rookie year.

...or, ever.

Bend over. I'll give ya a fuckin' unicorn, Lue.

[LkrFan]

20lbs on him isn't a lot, but he doesn't really need that. He needs to not be the best player on both ends of the floor in his rookie year.

Agreed! That young MFer is well on his way:
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He plays with a swagger that I hate to see in a Spurs uniform. SMH

[LkrFan]

On second thought, in about 2-3 years the only player challenging Wemby as one of the best players under 25 is Paolo (not Chet). Wemby and Paolo will gonna fight for top billing when Joker starts to decline.

My hope is by then the Magic --> LA pipeline for big men continues. :)

Shaq
D12
Paolo

[LkrFan]

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SMH

[lefty]

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SMH
Bust imo

[Tyronn Lue]

On second thought, in about 2-3 years the only player challenging Wemby as one of the best players under 25 is Paolo (not Chet). Wemby and Paolo will gonna fight for top billing when Joker starts to decline.

My hope is by then the Magic --> LA pipeline for big men continues. :)

Shaq
D12
Paolo
Don't sleep on Sengun in Houston.

[baseline bum]

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SMH

I couldn't believe this reverse he put on Claxton at the 1:00 mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7n9KtY8GT4

[LkrFan]

I couldn't believe this reverse he put on Claxton at the 1:00 mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7n9KtY8GT4
I hate the Spurs man. SMH

[LkrFan]

Don't sleep on Sengun in Houston.

He gonna be nice. Glad his injury was minor. :tu

[baseline bum]

I hate the Spurs man. SMH

You're only four years removed from a title; I don't want to hear any bitching.

[DAF86]

at his height he needs 60-70 lbs (dude came in under 210). which is why hes not going to last long in the league as a star.

Keep on that wishful thinking, bro. :lol

[baseline bum]

at his height he needs 60-70 lbs (dude came in under 210). which is why hes not going to last long in the league as a star.

Meh Kareem was 225 when he came in the league at 22 and lasted 20 years.

[LkrFan]

You're only four years removed from a title; I don't want to hear any bitching.

:lol

[chubbs]

Meh Kareem was 225 when he came in the league at 22 and lasted 20 years.

tbh kareem was shorter, weighed more, and played his prime years in an era where the average weight was around 206, defense was even more non-existent and less physical than it is today, while playing a good chunk of his career with magic (during the years the league actually became more competitive and serious).

wembys gonna have to battle it out with massive dudes who outweigh him by 50+ like embiid, giannis, towns, jokic, banchero, etc

unless he gets a couple of star guards/wings to counter teams with guys like joker, hes gonna have to put on some serious weight. at his height, and especially with his frame, guys with that weight generally dont last super long. see yao.

hes gonna have to overcome some major odds (just from a physical standpoint alone, not even considering any other factors) to be an mj/bron level player as so many are predicting

[chubbs]

Keep on that wishful thinking, bro. :lol

lol denial

[Tyronn Lue]

tbh kareem was shorter, weighed more, and played his prime years in an era where the average weight was around 206, defense was even more non-existent and less physical than it is today, while playing a good chunk of his career with magic (during the years the league actually became more competitive and serious).

wembys gonna have to battle it out with massive dudes who outweigh him by 50+ like embiid, giannis, towns, jokic, banchero, etc

unless he gets a couple of star guards/wings to counter teams with guys like joker, hes gonna have to put on some serious weight. at his height, and especially with his frame, guys with that weight generally dont last super long. see yao.

hes gonna have to overcome some major odds (just from a physical standpoint alone, not even considering any other factors) to be an mj/bron level player as so many are predicting
With 70lbs added, he'd need to change his game completely and become a banger. There's no reason to do that. He needs to remain flexible, light on his feet and healthy. I doubt any scout saw Victor and thought "he'd be great if he could only put on 70lbs". This isn't 2004.

[baseline bum]

tbh kareem was shorter, weighed more, and played his prime years in an era where the average weight was around 206, defense was even more non-existent and less physical than it is today, while playing a good chunk of his career with magic (during the years the league actually became more competitive and serious).

wembys gonna have to battle it out with massive dudes who outweigh him by 50+ like embiid, giannis, towns, jokic, banchero, etc

unless he gets a couple of star guards/wings to counter teams with guys like joker, hes gonna have to put on some serious weight. at his height, and especially with his frame, guys with that weight generally dont last super long. see yao.

hes gonna have to overcome some major odds (just from a physical standpoint alone, not even considering any other factors) to be an mj/bron level player as so many are predicting

You think the game was less physical in the era of enforcers and before the flagrant got put into the rulebooks to protect Jordan? Kareem was going against 300 lbs Chamberlain in the WC his first few years in the league. Yao is precisely the reason I don't want Wemby putting on a ton of weight, playing at over 300 lbs killed Yao's feet. Well that and China making him play on a stress fracture because the Olympics were in Beijing. Of the guys you listed only Embiid and Jokic are in that 280 lb class you say Wemby needs to get to. Giannis is like 245, Banchero 250, and Towns 250. He'll put on size but he's never going to be Embiid ripped.

Also Wemby even at rookie weight was still fine to reject Giannis' shit when he tried to throw his body into him and bump him off the shotblock.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2k5nt47H2c

[chubbs]

With 70lbs added, he'd need to change his game completely and become a banger. There's no reason to do that. He needs to remain flexible, light on his feet and healthy. I doubt any scout saw Victor and thought "he'd be great if he could only put on 70lbs". This isn't 2004.

70lbs isnt much at his height. yao was well over 300 and still thin as heck.

[chubbs]

You think the game was less physical in the era of enforcers and before the flagrant got put into the rulebooks to protect Jordan?

kareems prime was in the 70s. the "enforcer" stuff didnt start until the mid to later 80s, when kareem was at his end and being carried by magic.


Yao is precisely the reason I don't want Wemby putting on a ton of weight, playing at over 300 lbs killed Yao's feet. Well that and China making him play on a stress fracture because the Olympics were in Beijing.

being abnormally tall is also a problem. guys that tall simply don't last. id be shocked if wemby lasted more than 8-10 seasons while staying healthy the whole time.

he may last a bit longer staying lighter, but it wont be long regardless. and he will get bullied left and right, like he already is.


Of the guys you listed only Embiid and Jokic are in that 280 lb class you say Wemby needs to get to. Giannis is like 245, Banchero 250, and Towns 250. He'll put on size but he's never going to be Embiid ripped.

lower center of gravity while being heavier, means hes gonna get bullied lol.


Also Wemby even at rookie weight was still fine to reject Giannis' shit when he tried to throw his body into him and bump him off the shotblock.

an occasional shotblock doesnt = unable to be bullied. at his height hes simply going to get a solid number of blocks. even shawn bradley got a lot of blocks, didnt change the fact that he was bullied the majority of the time.

i think wemby will be a fantastic player. just not a top 10 all time player, and especially not remotely close to goat level as so many people proclaim. i think he has too many physical limitations. id say the only way he reaches that level is if he successfully puts on 60-70 lbs and manages to maintain his health and longevity while doing so (plus winning a boatload of mvps, titles, and all-NBA 1st team selections). so pretty much impossible.

[baseline bum]

kareems prime was in the 70s. the "enforcer" stuff didnt start until the mid to later 80s, when kareem was at his end and being carried by magic.


Disagree, the 70s was a prime era of enforcers and dirty play. Eg Kermit Washington nearly killing Rudy T. Kent Bentson breaking Kareem's rib and getting dropped for it. There were at least two Spurs games in the 70s when the opposing team went in the stands to beat up fat Mexicans. One against the Celtics in the playoffs, another against the Nets in the playoffs. One of the big reasons the TV ratings were so terrible, because the game was pretty violent then and the NBA was seen as a bunch of thugs.

[chubbs]

Disagree, the 70s was a prime era of enforcers and dirty play. Eg Kermit Washington nearly killing Rudy T. Kent Bentson breaking Kareem's rib and getting dropped for it. There were at least two Spurs games in the 70s when the opposing team went in the stands to beat up fat Mexicans. One against the Celtics in the playoffs, another against the Nets in the playoffs. One of the big reasons the TV ratings were so terrible, because the game was pretty violent then and the NBA was seen as a bunch of thugs.

regardless i originally wasnt talking about fist fights and dirty stuff. i was simply talking about defense. fighting and dirty play does not = strong defense. it doesnt take much to watch how absolutely awful defense in the NBA actually was until the 90s (and even then, unless it was a full court press, nobody bothered to guard anyone more than 19 feet from the basket)

[ambchang]

Majority of injuries happened not because of other players hurting you, and most definitely not because you try to defend bigger players, it’s because you are too big for your own skeletal structure to hold you up, and this is especially true for bigs.
Walton, Sampson, admiral, Sabonis, even Duncan’s knees to an extent. You also have Anthony Davis, Embiid in the modern days. Jokic is actually strangely healthy so far despite his weight. Shaq and Hakeem also dealt with minor injuries here and there but were lately heavy despite their frames. But they are definitely the minority.


Of course there’s a heavy dose of luck involved. Wemby is incredibly flexible and his frame doesn’t give him the wear and tear. People cite Kareem a lot but another player is Garnett. Big guy who moves like a guard, rail thin but deceptively strong. If wemby can model his game after Garnett, but with better inside scoring, the spurs would have a much easier time building the team.

Hope wemby can build on his lower body strength so he won’t be bumped out on drives and moved out of position relatively easily. He doesn’t need to gain weight, just lower body strength.

[Thread]

Majority of injuries happened not because of other players hurting you, and most definitely not because you try to defend bigger players, it’s because you are too big for your own skeletal structure to hold you up, and this is especially true for bigs.
Walton, Sampson, admiral, Sabonis, even Duncan’s knees to an extent. You also have Anthony Davis, Embiid in the modern days. Jokic is actually strangely healthy so far despite his weight. Shaq and Hakeem also dealt with minor injuries here and there but were lately heavy despite their frames. But they are definitely the minority.


Of course there’s a heavy dose of luck involved. Wemby is incredibly flexible and his frame doesn’t give him the wear and tear. People cite Kareem a lot but another player is Garnett. Big guy who moves like a guard, rail thin but deceptively strong. If wemby can model his game after Garnett, but with better inside scoring, the spurs would have a much easier time building the team.

Hope wemby can build on his lower body strength so he won’t be bumped out on drives and moved out of position relatively easily. He doesn’t need to gain weight, just lower body strength.

Sweet Jesus, you ain't laid something choice like this down for years, amb.

amb

[Tyronn Lue]

70lbs isnt much at his height. yao was well over 300 and still thin as heck.
People said KD needed to put on weight. Not everyone needs to be a body in the paint, plus you'd stunt his career about 8 years if he got anywhere near 300.

[ambchang]

Sweet Jesus, you ain't laid something choice like this down for years, amb.

amb

And you haven’t had a compliment this backhanded since … well, yesterday.

[Thread]

And you haven’t had a compliment this backhanded since … well, yesterday.

It ain't backhanded whatsoever. (That) arguably was your finest hour. You & I think alike more than you realize, amb.

[Thread]

People said KD needed to put on weight. Not everyone needs to be a body in the paint, plus you'd stunt his career about 8 years if he got anywhere near 300.

Speakin' of 300 your head is close to that, Lue...pure cement.

[DAF86]

lol denial

Yeah, that's exactly what you are dealing with. :lol

[Splits]

I couldn't believe this reverse he put on Claxton at the 1:00 mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7n9KtY8GT4

it's really tough to call out a single play. I mean the reverse was monster, but the double block on the 7 footer, and the wiping off the glass to seal the victory. jesus fuck this guy is ridiculous.

[ambchang]

It ain't backhanded whatsoever. (That) arguably was your finest hour. You & I think alike more than you realize, amb.

Buddy. I have lots of finer hours. Gimme some credit.

[Thread]

Buddy. I have lots of finer hours. Gimme some credit.

Sure, in your own estimation, but you're too close to it.

[lefty]

I couldn't believe this reverse he put on Claxton at the 1:00 mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7n9KtY8GT4
What's even more insane was that layup Kyrie scored on Wemby tbh

That nikka is insanely skilled

[chubbs]

Majority of injuries happened not because of other players hurting you, and most definitely not because you try to defend bigger players, it’s because you are too big for your own skeletal structure to hold you up, and this is especially true for bigs.
Walton, Sampson, admiral, Sabonis, even Duncan’s knees to an extent. You also have Anthony Davis, Embiid in the modern days. Jokic is actually strangely healthy so far despite his weight. Shaq and Hakeem also dealt with minor injuries here and there but were lately heavy despite their frames. But they are definitely the minority.

Of course there’s a heavy dose of luck involved. Wemby is incredibly flexible and his frame doesn’t give him the wear and tear. People cite Kareem a lot but another player is Garnett. Big guy who moves like a guard, rail thin but deceptively strong. If wemby can model his game after Garnett, but with better inside scoring, the spurs would have a much easier time building the team.

Hope wemby can build on his lower body strength so he won’t be bumped out on drives and moved out of position relatively easily. He doesn’t need to gain weight, just lower body strength.

agreed.


People said KD needed to put on weight. Not everyone needs to be a body in the paint, plus you'd stunt his career about 8 years if he got anywhere near 300.

again, in the context of what i was talking about, im referring to wemby being the goat, or > mj, bron, timmy, shaq, etc... as guys like daf have already proclaimed him.

he would have to be an extremely rare and exceptional case of an unusually tall guy not having injury problems, and being able to overcome his physical limitations (low body weight, poor physical strength), among a number of other things.

[lefty]

ClutchPoints ClutchPoints
Victor Wembanyama has more blocks + steals than any of the last 9 players in their DPOY-winning season… and there's still 14 games left ��




��Wembanyama — 283 (and counting)
��Jaren Jackson Jr — 254
��Marcus Smart — 137
��Rudy Gobert — 230
��Giannis Antetokounmpo — 127
��Draymond Green — 260
��Kawhi Leonard — 199
��Joakim Noah — 220
��Marc Gasol — 219
��Tyson Chandler — 145

[chubbs]

lol getting locked up twice now by a guy nearly a whole foot shorter
lol soft

[Bruce Wayne]

54 losses

[Monostradamus]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/kny4B2vtiORqEk10Wr/giphy.gif?cid=2154d3d7il80m7rbzh2lvveilsik2kkffac3 qjiew36juf0i&ep=v1_gifs_username&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[lefty]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/kny4B2vtiORqEk10Wr/giphy.gif?cid=2154d3d7il80m7rbzh2lvveilsik2kkffac3 qjiew36juf0i&ep=v1_gifs_username&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
1<5 tbh

[ambchang]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/kny4B2vtiORqEk10Wr/giphy.gif?cid=2154d3d7il80m7rbzh2lvveilsik2kkffac3 qjiew36juf0i&ep=v1_gifs_username&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

To be fair Luka is so fat he should count as two people.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

What's even more insane was that layup Kyrie scored on Wemby tbh

That nikka is insanely skilled

That buzzer beater Kyrie had against Denver was beyond filthy!

[lefty]

That buzzer beater Kyrie had against Denver was beyond filthy!
Most clutch player in the league doing clutch things

Kyrie is actually left handed, I think that may have helped.
Great shot

[spurraider21]

What's even more insane was that layup Kyrie scored on Wemby tbh

That nikka is insanely skilled
pound for pound i think kyrie might be the single most skilled offensive player i've ever seen

doesnt mean his decision making is always great, but as far as how deep his bag is, how well he can score at all levels, just insane.

[DAF86]

pound for pound i think kyrie might be the single most skilled offensive player i've ever seen

doesnt mean his decision making is always great, but as far as how deep his bag is, how well he can score at all levels, just insane.

Curry clears, tbh. He can handle the ball, pass and finish just as good as Kyrie and in terms of shooting there's not a debate.

[spurraider21]

Curry clears, tbh. He can handle the ball, pass and finish just as good as Kyrie and in terms of shooting there's not a debate.
curry is not as good a handler or finisher as kyrie. kyrie is the best ball handler ive ever seen.

they are pretty similar in passing ability. neither has particularly amazing vision like the kidd/nash types did but they can execute high degree of difficulty passes when its visible to them.

obviously curry's shooting ability is a GOAT trait and he's therefore able to leverage that gravity into easier forays toward the rim. he still makes high degree of difficulty shots in the paint, but kyrie is better at finishing among the trees

[spurraider21]

Thread what are your thoughts on this kid

i know you called way in advance that Leonard would be a problem. whats your thoughts on frenchie?

[DAF86]

curry is not as good a handler or finisher as kyrie. kyrie is the best ball handler ive ever seen.

they are pretty similar in passing ability. neither has particularly amazing vision like the kidd/nash types did but they can execute high degree of difficulty passes when its visible to them.

obviously curry's shooting ability is a GOAT trait and he's therefore able to leverage that gravity into easier forays toward the rim. he still makes high degree of difficulty shots in the paint, but kyrie is better at finishing among the trees

I don't know, tbh. I've seen Curry make some ridiculous layups and rarely miss when close to the basket. I wonder who has the best finishing %.

[spurraider21]

I don't know, tbh. I've seen Curry make some ridiculous layups and rarely miss when close to the basket. I wonder who has the best finishing %.
curry does make some insane ones. but his gravity just ends to open up drives more so than kyrie

tho per bbref, for their careers, steph shoots 65% within 3 feet and kyrie is at 62%

[DAF86]

Yeah, I'm going with Curry as the most skilled player ever. If only for mastering the most important skill of all like no other player in history, tbh.

[Thread]

Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320) what are your thoughts on this kid

i know you called way in advance that Leonard would be a problem. whats your thoughts on frenchie?

He did me right early beating the Suns those two games.

But you got to get rid of Pop before anything can be accomplished. And how much are you going to watch jettison before he's successfully run off?

[LkrFan]

1771153214957601103
When he signs with Klutch...
https://media1.tenor.com/m/8zUyU3lh7csAAAAC/vince-carter-its-over.gif

[lefty]

LeWembyGM

About time, better than PATFO

[Monostradamus]

1771153214957601103
When he signs with Klutch...
https://media1.tenor.com/m/8zUyU3lh7csAAAAC/vince-carter-its-over.gif
Spurs about to sign Evan Fournier & Pepe Le Pew this offseason :lmao

[LkrFan]

Spurs about to sign Evan Fournier & Pepe Le Pew this offseason :lmao

Mi primo Pepe can hoop tho son! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[chubbs]

curry is not as good a handler or finisher as kyrie. kyrie is the best ball handler ive ever seen.

they are pretty similar in passing ability. neither has particularly amazing vision like the kidd/nash types did but they can execute high degree of difficulty passes when its visible to them.

obviously curry's shooting ability is a GOAT trait and he's therefore able to leverage that gravity into easier forays toward the rim. he still makes high degree of difficulty shots in the paint, but kyrie is better at finishing among the trees

yeah while curry is a great handler and one of the best finishers ive ever seen, i wouldnt say hes quite on kyries level on either of those, but not super far off either.

and while curry is a better deep shooter, kyries midrange is just as good, and in some situations may be better (especially off balance and heavily contested shots). post moves and footwork is unquestionably advantage kyrie

[LkrFan]

This that bullshit:
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:bang

[Tyronn Lue]

He could have done a standing windmill.

[lefty]

He could have done a standing windmill.

for real

[Monostradamus]

Spurs defeat the full-strenth Suns! Amazing win! They must have gotten a huge game from amazing prodigy Victor Wemb- what, he didn’t play?

:lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

pretty sad that even he can't make the Spurs look better... The garbage team from last year looked better, which is pretty sad... Its also obvious that the teammates he has are jealous of him, so yea, Spurs need to get rid of pretty much everyone on the roster and pair him with players that actually don't mind being Robins.

[Tyronn Lue]

hmm

[Splits]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OHo-3MhLvM

[LkrFan]

You niggles don't deserve Wemby
1774072628061376540

Jim would never :lol

[LkrFan]

Wemby a gangsta :lol

[Neo.]

:lmao the best defensive player in the league, maybe ever, bullied by joker again

[DAF86]

23 pts, 15 rbds, 9 blks and 8 assts against the best player in the World, on the road, without his 3 best teamamtes. We are not worthy :worthy:

[Neo.]

lol can't break 20 wins

[Monostradamus]

9/29 shooting :lmao Westbrookyama

[MultiTroll]

:lol Jealous MavFags.

[Monostradamus]

https://www.esports.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/copium-meaning-e1662494143102.jpg

[djohn2oo8]

9/29 shooting :lmao Westbrookyama
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

23 pts, 15 rbds, 9 blks and 8 assts against the best player in the World, on the road, without his 3 best teamamtes. We are not worthy :worthy:
9 blocks and a loss? Lmao

[Bynumite]

Imagine being 7'4 and going 2-11 from 3. That's crazy :lol

[DAF86]

9 blocks and a loss? Lmao

Blowing your load in the offseason and not even making the play-in? :lmao

[MultiTroll]

Projection

[chubbs]

Imagine being 7'4 and going 2-11 from 3. That's crazy :lol

and imagine claming that he has steph level shooting like fap did :lmao

[DAF86]

Again with the making crap up tactic. :lol I don't know if it's a cultural thing or what, but what a weird ass trolling tactic. You are basically conceding that you have nothing smart to say, so you have no choice but to resort to making shit up. How's that clever in any shape or form, tbh? :lol

I take it as an automatic intelectual win everytime one of resort to that, tbh.

[chubbs]

Again with the making crap up tactic. :lol I don't know if it's a cultural thing or what, but what a weird ass trolling tactic. You are basically conceding that you have nothing smart to say, so you have no choice but to resort to making shit up. How's that clever in any shape or form, tbh? :lol

I take it as an automatic intelectual win everytime one of resort to that, tbh.

lol endorsing this video



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78C6fXIRwL4

[DAF86]

It just hit me that I might be giving you too much credit thinking that "making shit up" is a shtick and that you aren't a dumbass that actually believes what you are saying. Kind of sad if you think about it, tbh. :lol

[chubbs]

It just hit me that I might be giving you too much credit thinking that "making shit up" is a shtick and that you aren't an actual dumbass that believes what you are saying. Kind of sad if you think about it, tbh. :lol
lol tilted

[Texas_Ranger]

not really worried about his shooting. it can only get better tbh.

[LkrFan]

1775336086807384128

Nice sequence by the Rook. Joker the best player in the world. Wemby just need to get in the weight room or spend a few summers in San Antonio at Golden Corral. :lol

[LkrFan]

1775363054534009254

Impressive tbh :tu

[Tyronn Lue]

:lol Jealous MavFags.
That's just Draymond residue.

[Arcadian]

1775336086807384128

Nice sequence by the Rook. Joker the best player in the world. Wemby just need to get in the weight room or spend a few summers in San Antonio at Golden Corral. :lol
The Current Best vs. the Future Best

What a great matchup.

[LkrFan]

:lol Jealous MavFags.

In fairness, history isn't on Wemby's side. Players of his height often got injured (Manute Bol, Yao, Boban, Ralph Sampson, Arvidis Sabonis, etc.). There really is no history of someone 7'3 or taller that had a long, productive, healthy career. Yao played only 8 seasons (still made the hall of fame, but still).

All that being said, I'd rather have Luka both short and long-term. Wemby gonna be a beast no doubt. But for how long is the question.

Maybe the Spurs training staff is of the same ilk as Phoenix Suns. They work some kind of voodoo magic for their players health out there in the desert. :lol

I hope Wemby is healthy for a long time. Maybe he breaks the mold. History is not on his side though.

[DAF86]

Wemby is gonna play 'till his 40's like most sportmen do nowadays, tbh.

[Chris Fall]

Ralph Sampson and Porzingis are the two comparisons that probably apply the most from a size and bodytype standpoint. He's not the tall but non-athletic, lumbering type. He does have athleticism and quickness for his size. But he is at one of those heights where foot, knee, and back problems seem inevitable. And it's also a size you have to worry about putting on too much muscle weight because what that added weight could do to the feet, knees, and back. You want him to get stronger but watch the weight for the sake of his health and durability. In that regard, they should probably follow the body development model of a guy like Durant even though he's not quite as tall and long. Adding some muscle but staying lean.

Still I'd be surprised if he plays at an elite level through his mid 30s, much less until he's 40.

[Tyronn Lue]

I just hope he plays at an elite level for the next 5 to 10 years. His elite level will be different than anyone else's.

[sinok]

The other thing, he is insanely flexible for someone his size. Should help a lot preventing injuries.
And work ethic/preparation was there even before reaching the NBA.

[Thread]

I just hope he plays at an elite level for the next 5 to 10 years. His elite level will be different than anyone else's.


The other thing, he is insanely flexible for someone his size. Should help a lot preventing injuries.
And work ethic/preparation was there even before reaching the NBA.

I hope he takes a copter hop and crashes into the side of the Alamo.

[Thread]

In fairness, history isn't on Wemby's side. Players of his height often got injured (Manute Bol, Yao, Boban, Ralph Sampson, Arvidis Sabonis, etc.). There really is no history of someone 7'3 or taller that had a long, productive, healthy career. Yao played only 8 seasons (still made the hall of fame, but still).

All that being said, I'd rather have Luka both short and long-term. Wemby gonna be a beast no doubt. But for how long is the question.

Maybe the Spurs training staff is of the same ilk as Phoenix Suns. They work some kind of voodoo magic for their players health out there in the desert. :lol

I hope Wemby is healthy for a long time. Maybe he breaks the mold. History is not on his side though.

Maybe he contracts the mold and ends up with leprosy.

[Thread]

He ain't going to the Lakers. Ever.

Is that your religion?

[Thread]

Wemby is gonna play 'till his 40's like most sportmen do nowadays, tbh.

Or, better yet: ends up on Forensic Files as a victim of foul play.

[Arcadian]

Ralph Sampson and Porzingis are the two comparisons that probably apply the most from a size and bodytype standpoint. He's not the tall but non-athletic, lumbering type. He does have athleticism and quickness for his size. But he is at one of those heights where foot, knee, and back problems seem inevitable. And it's also a size you have to worry about putting on too much muscle weight because what that added weight could do to the feet, knees, and back. You want him to get stronger but watch the weight for the sake of his health and durability. In that regard, they should probably follow the body development model of a guy like Durant even though he's not quite as tall and long. Adding some muscle but staying lean.

Still I'd be surprised if he plays at an elite level through his mid 30s, much less until he's 40.

If anyone could be an exception, it would be this guy. He's already done things no one at that size has done before, so maybe durability will be another one of his exceptional traits. So far it's looking good. He has rolled his ankle several times this season, plus a minor shoulder injury, and every time he's bounced back quickly. Just yesterday his entire foot rolled 90° on a landing, the commentators thought it was serious, and he jogged it off and proceeded to block a shot, grab a rebound, and score a basket. Things that would affect other players don't seem to affect him as much. They say he's super flexible, so maybe that's part of it.

[Thread]

If anyone could be an exception, it would be this guy. He's already done things no one at that size has done before, so maybe durability will be another one of his exceptional traits. So far it's looking good. He has rolled his ankle several times this season, plus a minor shoulder injury, and every time he's bounced back quickly. Just yesterday his entire foot rolled 90° on a landing, the commentators thought it was serious, and he jogged it off and proceeded to block a shot, grab a rebound, and score a basket. Things that would affect other players don't seem to affect him as much. They say he's super flexible, so maybe that's part of it.

I'm just grateful he beat the Suns twice to start the season.

[LkrFan]

I know you farmers hate Kobe, but coming in at 18 years old, Kobe was ALL about ball. Seems like Wemby is cut from the same cloth mentally...
1780980453924565183
...and I hate it. Y'all don't deserve this young MFer :lol

[DAF86]

I know you farmers hate Kobe, but coming in at 18 years old, Kobe was ALL about ball. Seems like Wemby is cut from the same cloth mentally...
1780980453924565183
...and I hate it. Y'all don't deserve this young MFer :lol

Kobe was into raping too, tbh.

[DAF86]

Rapping, sorry, I meant rapping.

[chubbs]

unfortunately for wemby, so far he doesnt seem very interested in winning.

lol 22

[Texas_Ranger]

unfortunately for wemby, so far he doesnt seem very interested in winning.

lol 22

i expected 30, but with this roster, even under 20 wouldn't have shocked me.

[chubbs]

i expected 30, but with this roster, even under 20 wouldn't have shocked me.

last year they blatantly tanked, battled injuries, and had a bunch of rookies. 22 wins.

they returned the same squad, had far superior health, more experience, and added wemby. still 22 wins.

while he had a nice individual season, the lack of team success considering the circumstances is absolutely disappointing.

[baseline bum]

last year they blatantly tanked, battled injuries, and had a bunch of rookies. 22 wins.

they returned the same squad, had far superior health, more experience, and added wemby. still 22 wins.

while he had a nice individual season, the lack of team success considering the circumstances is absolutely disappointing.

The shithead coach has to take a lot of blame. First ~35 games of the season he was starting Sochan at PG and then Branham at PG and the team was historically bad with those two at point (5-30). I remember seeing a stat that Wemby had more assists to Sochan than Sochan had to Wemby despite Sochan being PG. Was frustrating seeing him only make passes to Victor when he floated out to the three point line, Sochan was practically incapable of passing the ball forward to Wemby. Spurs have this huge aversion to PGs less than 6'4" which is why they tried to force Sochan and Branham into the role and why they made the most retarded pick of the decade in Josh Primo at 12.

[chubbs]

The shithead coach has to take a lot of blame. First ~35 games of the season he was starting Sochan at PG and then Branham at PG and the team was historically bad with those two at point (5-30). I remember seeing a stat that Wemby had more assists to Sochan than Sochan had to Wemby despite Sochan being PG. Was frustrating seeing him only make passes to Victor when he floated out to the three point line, Sochan was practically incapable of passing the ball forward to Wemby. Spurs have this huge aversion to PGs less than 6'4" which is why they tried to force Sochan and Branham into the role and why they made the most retarded pick of the decade in Josh Primo at 12.

i think its a bit unfair to rag as hard on pop as some spurfans have been doing. theres no question the team is significantly flawed and needs better pieces. i dont blame him for trying different things out, especially on a season that wasnt going anywhere anyways.

but regardless of whether the biggest issue is coaching, or the talent level of the team, i dont see any legit excuse for not winning at least 1 more game than last year. and some of that should also fall on wemby.

of course its very early in his career, and i believe he will improve on this aspect of his game... but right now his mindset and approach reminds me an awful lot of westbrook.

[baseline bum]

i think its a bit unfair to rag as hard on pop as some spurfans have been doing. theres no question the team is significantly flawed and needs better pieces. i dont blame him for trying different things out, especially on a season that wasnt going anywhere anyways.

but regardless of whether the biggest issue is coaching, or the talent level of the team, i dont see any legit excuse for not winning at least 1 more game than last year. and some of that should also fall on wemby.

of course its very early in his career, and i believe he will improve on this aspect of his game... but right now his mindset and approach reminds me an awful lot of westbrook.

I give Pop a lot of credit for managing Victor's minutes to keep him from ever hitting too hard of a rookie wall and I thought ~30 mpg was appropriate for a guy in his 19-20 age year. No way he was going to be ready to play 35 mpg like Jokic or 37 mpg like Doncic does now. But the PG experiments with Sochan and Branham were ridiculous. Neither of them had any hope of being a PG and should have had a way shorter leash. When the one actual PG on the roster, Tre Jones, got moved into the starting lineup they improved from a 12 win pace to a 30 win pace. Still a shitty team but a night and day difference. Especially when Sochan was PG Wembanyama would only get touches at the three point line which would let other teams guard him with SF and SG that he didn't have the ballhandling skills to be able to take off the dribble. Sochan and Branham would commit stupid turnovers in the backcourt a couple times a game too, unforgivable for a PG. I really think the two main reasons for the terrible W/L record this year were the Sochan/Branham experiment and the West getting a lot better this year. Having watched ~70 Spurs games this year the team would usually fall apart when Wemby went to the bench, especially defensively. The on/off impact was night and day most games even when his shot wasn't falling.

[DAF86]

i think its a bit unfair to rag as hard on pop as some spurfans have been doing. theres no question the team is significantly flawed and needs better pieces. i dont blame him for trying different things out, especially on a season that wasnt going anywhere anyways.

but regardless of whether the biggest issue is coaching, or the talent level of the team, i dont see any legit excuse for not winning at least 1 more game than last year. and some of that should also fall on wemby.

of course its very early in his career, and i believe he will improve on this aspect of his game... but right now his mindset and approach reminds me an awful lot of westbrook.

Dude, stop with the stupid ass agenda. Every metric out there says Wemby makes the Spurs significantly better when he's on the court, specially after the all-star break, despite Pop and the Spurs clearly going tank mode by shutting down anyone that wasn't 110%. Also, it is false that this is the same roster than last year. Last season the Spurs had veterans like Poeltl and Richardson for more than half the games. The Spurs would have won a lot more games this season with those two alongside Wemby.

I really don't get this "let's shit on a rookie for a losing record" shtick, what's even the point of it? Get shit on even harder in the future when the Spurs inevitably start winning more games behind Wemby's production? :lol

[DAF86]

I give Pop a lot of credit for managing Victor's minutes to keep him from ever hitting too hard of a rookie wall and I thought ~30 mpg was appropriate for a guy in his 19-20 age year. No way he was going to be ready to play 35 mpg like Jokic or 37 mpg like Doncic does now. But the PG experiments with Sochan and Branham were ridiculous. Neither of them had any hope of being a PG and should have had a way shorter leash. When the one actual PG on the roster, Tre Jones, got moved into the starting lineup they improved from a 12 win pace to a 30 win pace. Still a shitty team but a night and day difference. Especially when Sochan was PG Wembanyama would only get touches at the three point line which would let other teams guard him with SF and SG that he didn't have the ballhandling skills to be able to take off the dribble. Sochan and Branham would commit stupid turnovers in the backcourt a couple times a game too, unforgivable for a PG. I really think the two main reasons for the terrible W/L record this year were the Sochan/Branham experiment and the West getting a lot better this year. Having watched ~70 Spurs games this year the team would usually fall apart when Wemby went to the bench, especially defensively. The on/off impact was night and day most games even when his shot wasn't falling.

Four things played a part in the Spurs winning less than they could have:

1) The PG experiments.
2) Wemby playing out of position to start the season.
3) Wemby playing only 29 minutes per game. Add 5 more minutes and many close loses become wins.
4) Blatant tanking after the slow start, which was caused by the three points above.

The Spurs should win about 10/15 more games next season just by cleaning those unforced errors alone.

[baseline bum]

Four things played a part in the Spurs winning less than they could have:

1) The PG experiments.
2) Wemby playing out of position to start the season.
3) Wemby playing only 29 minutes per game. Add 5 more minutes and many close loses become wins.
4) Blatant tanking after the slow start, which was caused by the three points above.

The Spurs should win about 10/15 more games next season just by cleaning those unforced errors alone.

I don't think 30 mpg is an error for a 19 year-old rookie. I am encouraged he showed he could play heavy minutes by late in the season though, which he couldn't do midseason or especially early season. I don't think the PG experiments were tanking, they were Pop stubbornly holding onto the idea of needing a big PG despite all the success they had with 185 lb Tony Parker. Scares the shit out of me that they're going to pass on good PG prospects like Dillingham and Sheppard to draft Topic for that reason. But I don't think they were tanking until the last ten games when they told Sochan to get surgery and ended Vassell's and Johnson's years. LOL Wemby fucking that up by leading the Spurs to a 5-3 record in the 8 games he played in that stretch. :lol

[DAF86]

I don't think 30 mpg is an error for a 19 year-old rookie. I am encouraged he showed he could play heavy minutes by late in the season though, which he couldn't do midseason or especially early season. I don't think the PG experiments were tanking, they were Pop stubbornly holding onto the idea of needing a big PG despite all the success they had with 185 lb Tony Parker. Scares the shit out of me that they're going to pass on good PG prospects like Dillingham and Sheppard to draft Topic for that reason. But I don't think they were tanking until the last ten games when they told Sochan to get surgery and ended Vassell's and Johnson's years. LOL Wemby fucking that up by leading the Spurs to a 5-3 record in the 8 games he played in that stretch. :lol

Once Pop got them into a whole with all the dumb decisions he took to start the season, I agree it wasn't a mistake to not overplay Wemby. I also agree Pop wasn't tanking to start the season, but after they got themselves into such a huge whole, he wasn't in any hurry to win either. That's why he had Wemby playing 24 minutes per game for over a month. Play Victor regular minutes and the Spurs would have won more games during that stretch. The point is the Spurs could have won a lot more games this season by just using a more rational rotation. That's all on Pop.

At the end of the day it is fine. It is better to have a higher draft pick than to win 30 games.

[LkrFan]

Never forget:
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Chet (rookie) has more 3s than Wemby (rookie) :tu

[LkrFan]

Never forget:
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Chet (rookie) has more 3s than Wemby (rookie) :tu

[LkrFan]

Never forget:
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Chet (rookie) has more 3s and playoff wins (1) than Wemby (rookie) :tu

[LkrFan]

Never forget:
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Chet (rookie) has more 3s and playoff wins (1) than Wemby (rookie) :tu

[Neo.]

Four things played a part in the Spurs winning less than they could have:

1) The PG experiments.
2) Wemby playing out of position to start the season.
3) Wemby playing only 29 minutes per game. Add 5 more minutes and many close loses become wins.
4) Blatant tanking after the slow start, which was caused by the three points above.

The Spurs should win about 10/15 more games next season just by cleaning those unforced errors alone.

they should have won 10-15 more just by adding the greatest prospect ever and contender for GOAT

[djohn2oo8]

3-16. Chucked SEVEN three pointers at 7 foot fucking 6

[Tyronn Lue]

3-16. Chucked SEVEN three pointers at 7 foot fucking 6
Probably an improvement in shot selection.

[DAF86]

3-16. Chucked SEVEN three pointers at 7 foot fucking 6

lol losing to the Hornets at home
lol spending all your cap space on a crap team
lol expecting said crap team to win
lol overrated coach which former team immediately got better and rang once he left
lol short, no defense playing, empty calories center
lol low IQ chucking SG
lol bust PF
lol Castle > Sheppard
lol can't draft for shit

[djohn2oo8]

Probably an improvement in shot selection.
:lol

[Monostradamus]

3-16. Chucked SEVEN three pointers at 7 foot fucking 6
And getting pushed around down low by guys 6-12 inches shorter all night :lmao Dude tried so hard to establish himself as a center, failed miserably and had to settle for jumpers.

When he tried to post up Luka, it was basically the KAT/Cousins picture re-enacted, then Luka picked his pocket like he was playing against a child :lmao

[Monostradamus]

I honestly haven’t seen such an amateurish and terrible attempt to seal off defenders in the post than what I saw from Wemby last night. I might have to review tape of Shawn Bradley to see a worse center in the post. Whatever he developed in the offseason didn’t work AT ALL :lmao

[Monostradamus]

His rim protection is already god-tier elite tho, I’ll give Parisian Manute Bol that.

But that was evident last year. So what exactly did he work on in the offseason, besides crying after a loss?

EDIT: forgot that he learned how to juggle! Great offseason work there, buddy :lmao

[Tyronn Lue]

His rim protection is already god-tier elite tho, I’ll give Parisian Manute Bol that.

But that was evident last year. So what exactly did he work on in the offseason, besides crying after a loss?

EDIT: forgot that he learned how to juggle! Great offseason work there, buddy :lmao
b2b ROY, book it

[Tyronn Lue]

3-16. Chucked SEVEN three pointers at 7 foot fucking 6
:lol Djohn. Take it like a man

[DAF86]

3-16. Chucked SEVEN three pointers at 7 foot fucking 6

Of course this guy made this comment a day prior to getting raped by Wemby, because of course he fucking did. :lol

[timtonymanu]

Wemby making Splitter look like Duncan in the post :lol
Low iq chucker at times :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Wemby making Splitter look like Duncan in the post :lol
Low iq chucker at times :lol
:lol

[Monostradamus]

More garbage time stat padding for Parisian Pachulia :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

More garbage time stat padding for Parisian Pachulia :lmao
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

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[LkrFan]

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For now - the best teams in Texas:

Mavs

Rockets












Spurs

[Donald Sterling.]

"Sacre bleu, Chet es me papa. "

- Wembustyama

[Monostradamus]

Baguette Bradley getting dominated by a string bean on edibles :lmao

[Monostradamus]

djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) get in here and stunt on Croque Madame Muresan :lmao

[chubbs]

lol russhawn bradbrook

yet somehow now can't even put up good stats :lmao

[LkrFan]

djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) get in here and stunt on Croque Madame Muresan :lmao

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) get in here and stunt on Croque Madame Muresan :lmao
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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[chubbs]

1851803540551012593

:lmao a soft big getting dominated by a less soft big

[whitemamba]

chet > wemby

[LkrFan]

Chet (https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401704691) is Wemby daddy until further notice. Had Pop out there :downspin: that shiiiiiiiiit :rollin :lmao :rollin
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Thunder > Sp*rs right now. They got a slew of picks. That means Chet will be sonning Wemby for a looooong time. :toast

Wemby might head west outta frustration. He'll have to do so before the Lakers Big Man factory (Orlando Magic) sends their disgruntled star. Shaq, Dwert,... ;)

[DAF86]

25pts, 9 rbds, 7 assts, 5 stls, 5 blks - +43 :wakeup

[Donald Sterling.]

Circle jerking over a win against the 0-4 Jazz without Markkanen :lol

Still under .500 :lol

Chet took Wembustyama's lunch money as usual :lol

Proceeds to take out his frustrations on Walker Kessler :lol

[chubbs]

Circle jerking over a win against the 0-4 Jazz without Markkanen :lol

Still under .500 :lol

Chet took Wembustyama's lunch money as usual :lol

Proceeds to take out his frustrations on Walker Kessler :lol

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[DAF86]

Circle jerking over a win against the 0-4 Jazz without Markkanen :lol

Still under .500 :lol

Chet took Wembustyama's lunch money as usual :lol

Proceeds to take out his frustrations on Walker Kessler :lol

Expected to contend and losing to the Rockets. :lol

[chubbs]

Expected to contend and losing to the Rockets. :lol

:lmao can't even expect to contend for a playoff spot despite your proclaimed future goat

[DAF86]

:lmao can't even expect to contend for a playoff spot despite your proclaimed future goat

You worry about your own fatass franchise player, missing the playoffs in his prime and looking mediocre season after season, last flukey postseason run aside.

[chubbs]

You worry about your own fatass franchise player, missing the playoffs in his prime and looking mediocre season after season, last flukey postseason run aside.

:lmao keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better about wemby not living up to your ridiculous homer expectations

[whitemamba]

Circle jerking over a win against the 0-4 Jazz without Markkanen :lol

Still under .500 :lol

Chet took Wembustyama's lunch money as usual :lol

Proceeds to take out his frustrations on Walker Kessler :lol

:lol

[Bill_Brasky]

Everyone knows what it's like to beat the Rockets this year, right? Wemby definitely knows that feeling. Imagine losing to that team of scrubs and sexual deviant coach, tbh. You'd have to be a total fatass with 6 chins who weighs 1000 lbs yet somehow seems lighter than a feather and goes flying every time you get touched, imo.

[DAF86]

:lmao keep telling yourself that to make yourself feel better about wemby not living up to your ridiculous homer expectations

What is it this year son, 5th or 6th seed?

[chubbs]

What is it this year son, 5th or 6th seed?

:lmao putting so much stock into regular season success

:lmao whining about the lack of talent being why wemby can't compete for the playoffs when Luka took a team full of d-league level talent to the playoffs repeatedly :lmao :lmao

[Donald Sterling.]

Wembustyama is weak and frail, that's why you can get away with putting guards a foot shorter on him.

He's not quick enough to get past them and not strong enough to back them down. His jumper is also not good enough to shoot over those mismatches consistently.

He has no go to moves, he's solely relying on his physical gifts right now and not on actual skill.

[DAF86]

:lmao putting so much stock into regular season success

Why are you talking as if the Mavs knew a lot about postseason success? :lmao

[DAF86]

Wembustyama is weak and frail, that's why you can get away with putting guards a foot shorter on him.

He's not quick enough to get past them and not strong enough to back them down. His jumper is also not good enough to shoot over those mismatches consistently.

He has no go to moves, he's solely relying on his physical gifts right now and not on actual skill.

You gotta love Mavsfans talking about stuff as if they knew anything when they have proven time and time again they don't know shit. :lol

How was it son? Mahomes sucked without elite receivers and he was gonna go the Aaron Rodgers route? :lmao

[LkrFan]

Circle jerking over a win against the 0-4 Jazz without Markkanen :lol

Still under .500 :lol

Chet took Wembustyama's lunch money as usual :lol

Proceeds to take out his frustrations on Walker Kessler :lol

:lol

[chubbs]

Why are you talking as if the Mavs knew a lot about postseason success? :lmao

:rollin that literally doesn't make sense

:lmao so butthurt

[Donald Sterling.]

You gotta love Mavsfans talking about stuff as if they knew anything when they have proven time and time again they don't know shit. :lol

How was it son? Mahomes sucked without elite receivers and he was gonna go the Aaron Rodgers route? :lmao

Well, unfortunately for your team and you, Wembustyama is not Mahomes, and by that I mean the nba machine/refs don't seem all that interested in coming to his rescue, at least not at the moment. So Wembustyama is gonna have to put on his big boy pants and dig himself out of the lottery.

Secondly, I'm not sure why you keep bringing up the mavs and Luka every time you reply to my posts. I'm not a mavsfan, but with the way things are going Wembustyama would be lucky to even have a 1/3 of Luka's playoff success by the time he's Luka's age.

[Bill_Brasky]

Well, unfortunately for your team and you, Wembustyama is not Mahomes, and by that I mean the nba machine/refs don't seem all that interested in coming to his rescue, at least not at the moment. So Wembustyama is gonna have to put on his big boy pants and dig himself out of the lottery.

Secondly, I'm not sure why you keep bringing up the mavs and Luka every time you reply to my posts. I'm not a mavsfan, but with the way things are going Wembustyama would be lucky to even have a 1/3 of Luka's playoff success by the time he's Luka's age.

Only faggots cry about the refs.

[djohn2oo8]

Yikes.

[djohn2oo8]

8 feet tall and chucking 9 threes

[timtonymanu]

8 feet tall and chucking 9 threes

Y'all deserve to laugh at him. I know Spur fan is gonna be like :cry he got 9 blocks.

I never seen a so called generational talent be such a pussy in the paint.

[Donald Sterling.]

Sperms up 26 and end up losing by 9 to the sub .500 Clippers :lol

That Wembustyama generational 1 through 5 defense :lol

Zubac put the clamps on the frail french negro and still had time to drop 17pts :lol

No game whatsoever outside of low % 3's and catching lobs :lol

Deandre Jordan with a green light :lol

[baseline bum]

8 feet tall and chucking 9 threes

I don't get it. This is how he started last season and it didn't work then either, but once he started playing as a center and not a Durant wanna-be last year he was great. He's not injured because he's playing god tier defense but he's just not going to be a 7'4" shooting guard and I wish the coaching staff would get that through his head.

[DAF86]

You know you're special when you are 7 games into your sophomore year you put up 24 pts, 13 rbds, 9 blks, 3 stls, 3 assts and people still want to shit on you. :lol

[chubbs]

You know you're special when you are 7 games into your sophomore year you put up 24 pts, 13 rbds, 9 blks, 3 stls, 3 assts and people still want to shit on you. :lol

the only reason people are taking shots at him are because of people like you who anointed him as the greatest prospect ever and will surpass Jordan Kareem LeBron etc before he even played a full rookie season :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Boston Pancake]

8 feet tall and chucking 9 threes

We finally have the answer for “what if Westbrook was 7-4?”

[DAF86]

the only reason people are taking shots at him are because of people like you who anointed him as the greatest prospect ever and will surpass Jordan Kareem LeBron etc before he even played a full rookie season :lmao :lmao :lmao

You keep saying that, but you have yet to provide a link of me saying it. :lol

[chubbs]

You keep saying that, but you have yet to provide a link of me saying it. :lol

here is one quick one (among many others) that took me about 15 seconds to find :lmao


This is my next Messi=GOD thread, tbh. In 15 years time when Wemby is the GOAT I will be here shitting on all of you with my superior intelect and just winning aura in life, tbh.

[DAF86]

here is one quick one (among many others) that took me about 15 seconds to find :lmao

Provide the others, tbh. :lol

[chubbs]

Provide the others, tbh. :lol

you already lost (like usual). just accept it and move on.

[spursgu]

All I see in this thread are a bunch of loser picklebreaths bothered by DAF. The same 3 losers: mono, stretch and djohn. The trolling isn’t even A+ level like it was back then, sad downfall. But it’s okay the 3 of you can flex your 1/2 inch dicks at each other. Keep crying while your teams fall short of championships once again.

[spursgu]

The spurs fans posting on this thread hating on Wemby too need to turn in their fan cards.

[Kyle_Kuzma]

Is Harlem Heat still active in this forum? He’s the only dude that ever made sense in this cesspool

[chubbs]

All I see in this thread are a bunch of loser picklebreaths bothered by DAF. The same 3 losers: mono, stretch and djohn. The trolling isn’t even A+ level like it was back then, sad downfall. But it’s okay the 3 of you can flex your 1/2 inch dicks at each other. Keep crying while your teams fall short of championships once again.

not even trolling

daf is doing that to himself :rollin

[spursgu]

not even trolling

daf is doing that to himself :rollin

yeah sure you small dicked losers keep bumping this because he said Manu > dirk one time. It's what I expect from unaccomplished franchise fans, lol 1 title despite having so many great players over the years. you have bigger fish to fry but still bump a thread for a player on one of the worst teams in the NBA right now.

[chubbs]

yeah sure you small dicked losers keep bumping this because he said Manu > dirk one time. It's what I expect from unaccomplished franchise fans, lol 1 title despite having so many great players over the years. you have bigger fish to fry but still bump a thread for a player on one of the worst teams in the NBA right now.

lol tilted