View Full Version : so how are the democrats gonna win exactly in 2024?,,,,,
HemisfairArena
10-22-2023, 03:21 AM
you lose the independent vote with your transgender bullshit trying to transition kids and now the jews and muslims are against you,,,,,,they wont vote for Trump,,,,but what they will do is stay home which will help the republicans just the same,,,,,
'I will never vote Biden': Some Muslim Americans in a key swing state feel betrayed by the president (yahoo.com) (https://news.yahoo.com/news/never-vote-biden-muslim-americans-191319506.html)
It's Time for American Jews to Say Goodbye to the Democratic Party | Opinion (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-american-jews-say-goodbye-democratic-party-opinion-1782070)
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10-22-2023, 03:24 AM
you lose the independent vote with your transgender bullshit trying to transition kids and now the jews and muslims are against you,,,,,,they wont vote for Trump,,,,but what they will do is stay home which will help the republicans just the same,,,,,
'I will never vote Biden': Some Muslim Americans in a key swing state feel betrayed by the president (yahoo.com) (https://news.yahoo.com/news/never-vote-biden-muslim-americans-191319506.html)
It's Time for American Jews to Say Goodbye to the Democratic Party | Opinion (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-american-jews-say-goodbye-democratic-party-opinion-1782070)
I've heard this tact a thousand times, Hemi. The only way I see that Trump will get back in is if Biden passes before Election Day.
HemisfairArena
10-22-2023, 03:28 AM
I've heard this tact a thousand times, Hemi. The only way I see that Trump will get back in is if Biden passes before Election Day.
No chance, dude gets 81 million votes this time around. The energy isnt there like it was in 2020 to get rid of Trump. Everything is pushing against the crypt keeper and democrats see it but want to pretend all is ok,,,,democrats would be wise to pick someone else to run and kick biden to the curb,,,,
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10-22-2023, 03:51 AM
No chance, dude gets 81 million votes this time around. The energy isnt there like it was in 2020 to get rid of Trump. Everything is pushing against the crypt keeper and democrats see it but want to pretend all is ok,,,,democrats would be wise to pick someone else to run and kick biden to the curb,,,,
Hope you're right, Hemi, I just don't see it. They'll hide his physical state unless he's a cadaver.
What's on our side is time. It's a long slough till next November. It ain't 6 months, it's over a year as the crow flies. And Biden is fading fast. Need him to fall down and compromise himself, perhaps an embolism on AF1, coronary on his bike, a stroke to where he can't talk, or, wipe his own ass. It all Depends.
But the timing is everything here. He can't go too early to where they can finagle and take our pants back down. My Bermuda shorts are always down with these fuckin' people. Some date in late September, early October.
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 07:04 AM
No chance, dude gets 81 million votes this time around. The energy isnt there like it was in 2020 to get rid of Trump. Everything is pushing against the crypt keeper and democrats see it but want to pretend all is ok,,,,democrats would be wise to pick someone else to run and kick biden to the curb,,,,
We did get someone else to run and now RFK Jr. is taking votes away from Trump.:lol
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10-22-2023, 09:53 AM
We did get someone else to run and now RFK Jr. is taking votes away from Trump.:lol
...but nary a one from Biden, huh? Nary.
Will Hunting
10-22-2023, 10:16 AM
...but nary a one from Biden, huh? Nary.
RFK Jr. has more or less shifted his messaging completely towards trying to win Trump supporters since he became an independent, but I'm still not convinced he takes very many votes from either candidate.
Independents always poll a lot better 1+ year from the election than they do 2 weeks before election day when people will realize that a vote for RFK Jr. is a wasted vote.
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10-22-2023, 10:32 AM
RFK Jr. has more or less shifted his messaging completely towards trying to win Trump supporters since he became an independent, but I'm still not convinced he takes very many votes from either candidate.
Independents always poll a lot better 1+ year from the election than they do 2 weeks before election day when people will realize that a vote for RFK Jr. is a wasted vote.
Horseshit, Will. That's some counter negative plot by CNN/Biden to tamp down RJK's impact on Biden..."Bring Trump and his name into this fuckin' nightmare. It'll buy us time till we can get this pain-in-the-ass to quit and go back to Hyannis Port and make up with his fuckin' people."
There is a shit load of boomers who will vote for this guy thinking, believing in their heart of hearts he's a reincarnate of his uncle(s)? is that the blood lineage? And that they can put it all together one more time before they take up the rockin' chair, or, a gravestone.
Will Hunting
10-22-2023, 10:34 AM
Horseshit, Will. That's some counter negative plot by CNN/Biden to tamp down RJK's impact on Biden..."Bring Trump and his name into this fuckin' nightmare. It'll buy us time till we can get this pain-in-the-ass to quit and go back to Hyannis Port and make up with his fuckin' people."
There is a shit load of boomers who will vote for this guy thinking, believing in their heart of hearts he's a reincarnate of his uncle(s)? is that the blood lineage? And that they can put it all together one more time before they take up the rockin' chair, or, a gravestone.
I'd agree with this except RFK Jr. is a fucking nutcase heroine addict.
I'd genuinely vote for Trump before I ever voted for RFK Jr.
Spurs Homer
10-22-2023, 10:36 AM
A traffic cone or a dead Joe Biden stuffed with formaldehyde would get millions more votes than Trump -
so whether it is biden, a traffic cone, a lecturn worth 19k or kamala by herself -
the voters will choose any of the above - when the other choice is the traitor convict lying kunt.
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10-22-2023, 10:38 AM
A traffic cone or a dead Joe Biden stuffed with formaldehyde would get millions more votes than Trump -
so whether it is biden, a traffic cone, a lecturn worth 19k or kamala by herself -
the voters will choose any of the above - when the other choice is the traitor convict lying kunt.
...who you tried to blow up in the White House day 1, ya silly son of a bitch, you. Then you tried to cut his head off and shoot him to death, ya bastard, you.
koriwhat
10-22-2023, 02:21 PM
RFK Jr. has more or less shifted his messaging completely towards trying to win Trump supporters since he became an independent, but I'm still not convinced he takes very many votes from either candidate.
Independents always poll a lot better 1+ year from the election than they do 2 weeks before election day when people will realize that a vote for RFK Jr. is a wasted vote.
You'll never win votes from Trumpers when your platform now includes "ReParAtIoNs".
Blake
10-22-2023, 02:30 PM
you lose the independent vote with your transgender bullshit trying to transition kids and now the jews and muslims are against you,,,,,,they wont vote for Trump,,,,but what they will do is stay home which will help the republicans just the same,,,,,
'I will never vote Biden': Some Muslim Americans in a key swing state feel betrayed by the president (yahoo.com) (https://news.yahoo.com/news/never-vote-biden-muslim-americans-191319506.html)
It's Time for American Jews to Say Goodbye to the Democratic Party | Opinion (newsweek.com) (https://www.newsweek.com/its-time-american-jews-say-goodbye-democratic-party-opinion-1782070)
"At least we aren't Republicans" is the winning slogan
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 02:31 PM
Meh, a good percentage of Trumptards think JFK is still alive and set to make a big return -- you really think they are going to make a detailed study of anyone's platform?
You're all feels and vibes.
daboom1
10-22-2023, 02:44 PM
They will lie, cheat, and steal. The official party of the KKK and dead babies.
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 02:46 PM
:lol your candidate is going to be a convicted felon and you're trying to take the moral high ground. Official party of guilty criminals.
Millennial_Messiah
10-22-2023, 04:10 PM
RFK Jr. has more or less shifted his messaging completely towards trying to win Trump supporters since he became an independent, but I'm still not convinced he takes very many votes from either candidate.
Independents always poll a lot better 1+ year from the election than they do 2 weeks before election day when people will realize that a vote for RFK Jr. is a wasted vote.
That, and, there's no guarantee RFK Jr even ends up on the ballot.
Meh, a good percentage of Trumptards think JFK is still alive and set to make a big return -- you really think they are going to make a detailed study of anyone's platform?
You're all feels and vibes.
All three percent of Trump voters? :lol
There are far more pro-Squad Democrat voters than truly QAnon Trump voters, so it's a shit sandwich your side must eat.
Will Hunting
10-22-2023, 04:41 PM
You'll never win votes from Trumpers when your platform now includes "ReParAtIoNs".
Somewhat true but he could flip flop on that the same way he has in guns (now he’s pretending to be an adamant 2nd amendment defender).
Also fun fact George Santos is an outspoken supporter of reparations :lol
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 04:49 PM
That, and, there's no guarantee RFK Jr even ends up on the ballot.
All three percent of Trump voters? :lol
There are far more pro-Squad Democrat voters than truly QAnon Trump voters, so it's a shit sandwich your side must eat.25% of you believed the general QAnon spiel a couple years back. I'll even cut that in half to 1/8 of you Trumptards' still being true believers. You believe in your "pureblood" conspiracy theory so I expect you to seriously consider voting for RFK Jr. if you're serious in your beliefs.:lol
clambake
10-22-2023, 04:55 PM
25% of you believed the general QAnon spiel a couple years back. I'll even cut that in half to 1/8 of you Trumptards' still being true believers. You believe in your "pureblood" conspiracy theory so I expect you to seriously consider voting for RFK Jr. if you're serious in your beliefs.:lol
Lol beliefs from a deadbeat dad.
Millennial_Messiah
10-22-2023, 05:02 PM
25% of you believed the general QAnon spiel a couple years back. I'll even cut that in half to 1/8 of you Trumptards' still being true believers. You believe in your "pureblood" conspiracy theory so I expect you to seriously consider voting for RFK Jr. if you're serious in your beliefs.:lol
If you're talking about the people who actually show up to the Trump rallies, 15-25% Q-Tards (depending on the state, location, weather, and capacity) is actually a fair assessment. :lol They're generally old, fat boomers (or just slightly younger than boomer), easy to identify, and they're definitely not the people I engage in conversations with or try to make friends with at the rallies. I look for actual authentic conservatives who want to team up with me to be competent and help actually win elections, vote early get the ballot harvesting operations in order on our side, not just buy every bullshit conspiracy theory and "pray the Democrats away" like the evangelical, delusional Q-Base thinks is actually possible. :lol
But, that doesn't actually represent a large percentage of the Trump vs. Democrat voting bloc in any given general election (2016, 2020, 2014 et al.) The actual number is shy of 3% of actual Trump voters, not the Q-conspiretard talking heads on Twitter and Tiktok/Reddit.
Yes, I'm anti Covid policy of all kinds (shutdown, mask, vax), simply because (a) there were confirmed reports of Fauci planning shit from as early as 2017, and Fauci just being a notorious overall evil mastermind since the '80s scientist like his predecessor Dr. Faustus from that British play written several hundred years ago, and (b) the situation with Covid happened way too fast and suspiciously for anyone with any ounce of free thinking could take seriously, especially having lived through SARS, bird flu, and swine flu. The origin of Covid being purposefully lab-created with the ultimate goal of wreaking havoc and global chaos and getting rid of Trump just seemed too obvious at the time, even well before the actual election.
I also believe the flu shot is bogus as my immune system is infinitely stronger since I stopped getting those annual "flu shots" in 2013 my rate of getting sick with URIs has tanked by over 80%. Vaccines are a mixed bag in my opinion. I'm definitely not anti vax on most of the legacy vaccines. The legacy vaccines were designed to save people's lives, while the neo vaccines are mostly designed for profiteering and corporate greed. All URI virus vaccines are a scam; you beat URIs with a healthy immune system, and the mRNA sample injections of the virus actually weaken your immune system, nevermind that they're bad for your heart as well.
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 05:06 PM
If you're talking about the people who actually show up to the Trump rallies, 15-25% Q-Tards (depending on the state, location, weather, and capacity) is actually a fair assessment. :lol They're generally old, fat boomers (or just slightly younger than boomer), easy to identify, and they're definitely not the people I engage in conversations with or try to make friends with at the rallies. I look for actual authentic conservatives who want to team up with me to be competent and help actually win elections, vote early get the ballot harvesting operations in order on our side, not just buy every bullshit conspiracy theory and "pray the Democrats away" like the evangelical, delusional Q-Base thinks is actually possible. :lol
But, that doesn't actually represent a large percentage of the Trump vs. Democrat voting bloc in any given general election (2016, 2020, 2014 et al.) The actual number is shy of 3% of actual Trump voters, not the Q-conspiretard talking heads on Twitter and Tiktok/Reddit.
Yes, I'm anti Covid policy of all kinds (shutdown, mask, vax), simply because (a) there were confirmed reports of Fauci planning shit from as early as 2017, and Fauci just being a notorious overall evil mastermind since the '80s scientist like his predecessor Dr. Faustus from that British play written several hundred years ago, and (b) the situation with Covid happened way too fast and suspiciously for anyone with any ounce of free thinking could take seriously, especially having lived through SARS, bird flu, and swine flu. The origin of Covid being purposefully lab-created with the ultimate goal of wreaking havoc and global chaos and getting rid of Trump just seemed too obvious at the time, even well before the actual election.
I also believe the flu shot is bogus as my immune system is infinitely stronger since I stopped getting those annual "flu shots" in 2013 my rate of getting sick with URIs has tanked by over 80%. Vaccines are a mixed bag in my opinion. I'm definitely not anti vax on most of the legacy vaccines. URI virus vaccines on the other hand are a scam.
Since you keep saying 3%, you need to provide a link.
Here is the link to the 25% from last year:
https://www.prri.org/press-release/new-prri-report-reveals-nearly-one-in-five-americans-and-one-in-four-republicans-still-believe-in-qanon-conspiracy-theories/
Also, thank you for proving definitively you are a full COVID conspiretard.:lol RFK Jr. gon' get a lot of those votes.
Blake
10-22-2023, 06:27 PM
They will lie, cheat, and steal. The official party of the KKK and dead babies.
"...Trump is charged under Section 241, which is part of a series of statutes known as the Enforcement Acts (also referred to as the KKK Acts)...."
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/column-trump-criminal-charges-go-heart-kkk-act-2023-08-07/
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10-22-2023, 06:38 PM
They will lie, cheat, and steal. The official party of the KKK and dead babies.
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Dirks_Finale
10-22-2023, 07:35 PM
RFK Jr. has more or less shifted his messaging completely towards trying to win Trump supporters since he became an independent, but I'm still not convinced he takes very many votes from either candidate.
Independents always poll a lot better 1+ year from the election than they do 2 weeks before election day when people will realize that a vote for RFK Jr. is a wasted vote.
This, TBH.
RFK takes a small amount of votes from Trump and West probably does the same to Biden. The two offset each other.
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10-22-2023, 07:37 PM
This, TBH.
RFK takes a small amount of votes from Trump and West probably does the same to Biden. The two offset each other.
You're both chock full of shit.
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 07:51 PM
This, TBH.
RFK takes a small amount of votes from Trump and West probably does the same to Biden. The two offset each other.
How much is West polling right now?
Dirks_Finale
10-22-2023, 08:48 PM
How much is West polling right now?
Like 3-5% which is what Kennedy likely drops to around Oct/Nov of next year.
Millennial_Messiah
10-22-2023, 08:54 PM
Like 3-5% which is what Kennedy likely drops to around Oct/Nov of next year.
No; realistically Kennedy doesn't even make the ballot, and even if he does, he garners <1%.
West at 3-5% is pretty accurate FWIW. That's who the squad, MSA, pro Palestine peeps et al. are going to endorse. West could very well torpedo Biden decisively in the black inner-city precincts of Atlanta, Detroit, and Philly.
Will Hunting
10-22-2023, 09:06 PM
No; realistically Kennedy doesn't even make the ballot, and even if he does, he garners <1%.
West at 3-5% is pretty accurate FWIW. That's who the squad, MSA, pro Palestine peeps et al. are going to endorse. West could very well torpedo Biden decisively in the black inner-city precincts of Atlanta, Detroit, and Philly.
:lmao
You really should pump the brakes on retarded predictions (JR M:loljewski)
Millennial_Messiah
10-22-2023, 09:09 PM
:lmao
You really should pump the brakes on retarded predictions (JR M:loljewski)
Majewski's trying to run again. To be fair I think a generic (R) riding the Trump coattails could win that district and oust the 40-year incumbent. But not Majewski. He's too polarizing. He needs to run in, like, a R+25 type district to win.
Ef-man
10-22-2023, 09:09 PM
:lmao
You really should pump the brakes on retarded predictions (JR M:loljewski)
And the retard has the nerve to ask why I am opposed to homeschooling. :lmao :lmao :lmao
Will Hunting
10-22-2023, 09:19 PM
And the retard has the nerve to ask why I am opposed to homeschooling. :lmao :lmao :lmao
Christian nationalist dads who use their daughters as sex slaves utilize home schooling as a way to hide their abuse from teachers/administrators who might notice.
It shouldn’t be illegal but it should be heavily regulated.
Will Hunting
10-22-2023, 09:21 PM
Majewski's trying to run again. To be fair I think a generic (R) riding the Trump coattails could win that district and oust the 40-year incumbent. But not Majewski. He's too polarizing. He needs to run in, like, a R+25 type district to win.
He’s making noise about it but only after he announced he wasn’t going to. I don’t see it happening.
Fortunately Ohio is going to have an independent redistricting commission on the ballot in 2024 that will put new maps in place in 2026 if it passes, so all Kaptur has to do is survive 2024 before getting put back in a Biden district.
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 09:25 PM
Like 3-5% which is what Kennedy likely drops to around Oct/Nov of next year.Link?
What is RFK polling now?
Will Hunting
10-22-2023, 09:43 PM
I don’t see Cornel West cracking 1% or RFK Jr cracking 2%.
Millennial_Messiah
10-22-2023, 09:58 PM
He’s making noise about it but only after he announced he wasn’t going to. I don’t see it happening.
Fortunately Ohio is going to have an independent redistricting commission on the ballot in 2024 that will put new maps in place in 2026 if it passes, so all Kaptur has to do is survive 2024 before getting put back in a Biden district.
I think the Dems would be smarter to put that on the ballot in 2023 than 2024, since 2023 it would be on the same ticket as next month's abortion freedom bill which is expected to pass by like 10-15% even though it's a red state it's also on the pro choice side similar to MI.
Putting liberal measures on the same ballot as Trump-Biden in a Trump+>10 state is probably not a good idea for liberal ballot initiatives or Democrat candidates in Trump districts.
I don’t see Cornel West cracking 1% or RFK Jr cracking 2%.
I agree but the reverse. West will do better than Stein but worse than Nader. RFK Jr if he makes the ballot won't crack 1%.
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 10:20 PM
I think the Dems would be smarter to put that on the ballot in 2023 than 2024, since 2023 it would be on the same ticket as next month's abortion freedom bill which is expected to pass by like 10-15% even though it's a red state it's also on the pro choice side similar to MI.
Putting liberal measures on the same ballot as Trump-Biden in a Trump+>10 state is probably not a good idea for liberal ballot initiatives or Democrat candidates in Trump districts.
I agree but the reverse. West will do better than Stein but worse than Nader. RFK Jr if he makes the ballot won't crack 1%.:lol RFK's RCP average is like 15%.
West's isn't even 1/10 of that.
Millennial_Messiah
10-22-2023, 10:24 PM
:lol RFK's RCP average is like 15%.
West's isn't even 1/10 of that.
You're looking at the Democrat primary, vs. West as an independent?
Apples and oranges.
Millennial_Messiah
10-22-2023, 10:25 PM
West polling 5% aggregate, and 9% in October, as an independent:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden_vs_west-8249.html
(to be fair, I don't think he gets that)
RFK won't be on the ballot, so it's irrelevant
Will Hunting
10-22-2023, 10:32 PM
I think the Dems would be smarter to put that on the ballot in 2023 than 2024, since 2023 it would be on the same ticket as next month's abortion freedom bill which is expected to pass by like 10-15% even though it's a red state it's also on the pro choice side similar to MI.
Putting liberal measures on the same ballot as Trump-Biden in a Trump+>10 state is probably not a good idea for liberal ballot initiatives or Democrat candidates in Trump districts.
I agree but the reverse. West will do better than Stein but worse than Nader. RFK Jr if he makes the ballot won't crack 1%.
They can’t just snap their fingers and put it on the ballot whenever they want, 2024 is the earliest possible date.
Regardless, I can’t think of even one instance when redistricting ballot initiatives that strip the state legislature of power (in some form or another) didn’t pass a statewide vote. And independent redistricting commission even passed in fucking Utah (albeit it was advisory). The median voter doesn’t see an independent redistricting commission as some radical libruhl agenda, they see a state legislature being stripped of its ability to select its voters and objectively good thing.
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 10:33 PM
You're looking at the Democrat primary, vs. West as an independent?
Apples and oranges.
Nope.
ChumpDumper
10-22-2023, 10:38 PM
West polling 5% aggregate, and 9% in October, as an independent:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden_vs_west-8249.html
(to be fair, I don't think he gets that)Sorry, read it wrong.
He's polling 1/3 what RFK is in similar polls.
RFK won't be on the ballot, so it's irrelevant
Why would West be on the ballot but not RFK?
daboom1
10-23-2023, 12:45 PM
Christian nationalist dads who use their daughters as sex slaves utilize home schooling as a way to hide their abuse from teachers/administrators who might notice.
It shouldn’t be illegal but it should be heavily regulated.
lol wut
Blake
10-23-2023, 12:49 PM
This, TBH.
RFK takes a small amount of votes from Trump and West probably does the same to Biden. The two offset each other.
West as in Kanye West?
ChumpDumper
10-23-2023, 12:56 PM
West as in Kanye West?
:lol this cycle's Great Black Hope, Cornel West.
Leetonidas
10-23-2023, 03:05 PM
Remember when OP made all those 2022 midterm threads jizzing himself over the ReD wAvE that never happened then was posting about how even though red team lost they still won? Pepperidge Farm remembers
UNT Eagles 2016
10-23-2023, 03:25 PM
Remember when OP made all those 2022 midterm threads jizzing himself over the ReD wAvE that never happened then was posting about how even though red team lost they still won? Pepperidge Farm remembers
Before the SCOTUS shit their pants in late June last year, red wave 2022 midterm was absolutely 100% in the cards. SCOTUS kind of hit a third rail at the worst possible timing when Biden was disapproved of by 25% on RCP aggregate and gas was over $5 per gallon nationally. The big turning point.
A reverse 2008 style red wave happening in 2024 is absolutely in this cards as of right now, October 2023. When foreign policy, the economy/inflation/energy, and crime are the top issues rather than stuff like abortion and gay marriage and domestic social justice, the conservatives and especially a strongman like Trump absolutely have the advantage.
But who knows, SCOTUS could shit the bed again by overturning Obergefell v Hodges or the GOP under the new Speakership totally makes asses out of themselves, e.g. by impeaching Biden (which will go nowhere in the Senate and torpedo Trump's "two tier justice" argument), or at the very least Israel/Palestine can make peace and de-ignite the current tension. There's still plenty of time for Biden and Democrats. Heck, they could put Trump in jail in Georgia... but that scenario is looking less likely; most likely case is he pays a six or seven figure fine, pleads guilty/no contest to misdemeanors, RICO charge gets dropped, and he's ordered to write an apology letter that will admittedly make him seethe inside even if it's not actually him writing it. Worse case scenario for Trump is they ban him from being on the ballot in the state of Georgia, which I think would be a fair and equitable punishment (the GOP would have to put a replacement candidate like DeSantis but for Georgia only, to avoid insta-conceding the 16 ECV to Biden), but unfortunately for Fani Willis and the Dems there's no stare decisis for that kind of justice.
clambake
10-23-2023, 03:33 PM
Before the SCOTUS shit their pants in late June last year, red wave 2022 midterm was absolutely 100% in the cards. SCOTUS kind of hit a third rail at the worst possible timing when Biden was disapproved of by 25% on RCP aggregate and gas was over $5 per gallon nationally. The big turning point.
A reverse 2008 style red wave happening in 2024 is absolutely in this cards as of right now, October 2023. When foreign policy, the economy/inflation/energy, and crime are the top issues rather than stuff like abortion and gay marriage and domestic social justice, the conservatives and especially a strongman like Trump absolutely have the advantage.
But who knows, SCOTUS could shit the bed again by overturning Obergefell v Hodges or the GOP under the new Speakership totally makes asses out of themselves, e.g. by impeaching Biden (which will go nowhere in the Senate and torpedo Trump's "two tier justice" argument), or at the very least Israel/Palestine can make peace and de-ignite the current tension. There's still plenty of time for Biden and Democrats. Heck, they could put Trump in jail in Georgia... but that scenario is looking less likely; most likely case is he pays a six or seven figure fine, pleads guilty/no contest to misdemeanors, RICO charge gets dropped, and he's ordered to write an apology letter that will admittedly make him seethe inside even if it's not actually him writing it. Worse case scenario for Trump is they ban him from being on the ballot in the state of Georgia, which I think would be a fair and equitable punishment (the GOP would have to put a replacement candidate like DeSantis but for Georgia only, to avoid insta-conceding the 16 ECV to Biden), but unfortunately for Fani Willis and the Dems there's no stare decisis for that kind of justice.
All the time you spend with this……..as a deadbeat dad
ChumpDumper
10-23-2023, 03:43 PM
Before the SCOTUS shit their pants in late June last year, red wave 2022 midterm was absolutely 100% in the cards. SCOTUS kind of hit a third rail at the worst possible timing when Biden was disapproved of by 25% on RCP aggregate and gas was over $5 per gallon nationally. The big turning point.
A reverse 2008 style red wave happening in 2024 is absolutely in this cards as of right now, October 2023. When foreign policy, the economy/inflation/energy, and crime are the top issues rather than stuff like abortion and gay marriage and domestic social justice, the conservatives and especially a strongman like Trump absolutely have the advantage.
But who knows, SCOTUS could shit the bed again by overturning Obergefell v Hodges or the GOP under the new Speakership totally makes asses out of themselves, e.g. by impeaching Biden (which will go nowhere in the Senate and torpedo Trump's "two tier justice" argument), or at the very least Israel/Palestine can make peace and de-ignite the current tension. There's still plenty of time for Biden and Democrats. Heck, they could put Trump in jail in Georgia... but that scenario is looking less likely; most likely case is he pays a six or seven figure fine, pleads guilty/no contest to misdemeanors, RICO charge gets dropped, and he's ordered to write an apology letter that will admittedly make him seethe inside even if it's not actually him writing it. Worse case scenario for Trump is they ban him from being on the ballot in the state of Georgia, which I think would be a fair and equitable punishment (the GOP would have to put a replacement candidate like DeSantis but for Georgia only, to avoid insta-conceding the 16 ECV to Biden), but unfortunately for Fani Willis and the Dems there's no stare decisis for that kind of justice.
You really needed to get out of the prediction business years ago.
Thread
10-23-2023, 04:02 PM
Remember when OP made all those 2022 midterm threads jizzing himself over the ReD wAvE that never happened then was posting about how even though red team lost they still won? Pepperidge Farm remembers
We did take the House, Lee, and the governorship's. Your people/not your fellows here, but your politicos in D.C., and CNN/MSNBC sentinels were livid because yes, they came close, but they did not get it. That's why they went after that Santo fellow with such maniacal vigor after the finals count. They wanted to bull rush him into resigning on-the-spot and then he wouldn't cooperate. Make no mistake, you came up short.
Straighten your tie, Lee.
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That's better.
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10-23-2023, 04:04 PM
All the time you spend with this……..as a deadbeat dad
The mother, clammy? She got off lucky, son. If it'd a been me? "Think Chernobyl."
koriwhat
10-24-2023, 04:54 PM
Somewhat true but he could flip flop on that the same way he has in guns (now he’s pretending to be an adamant 2nd amendment defender).
Also fun fact George Santos is an outspoken supporter of reparations :lol
Also a fun fact, IDGAF about George Santos and I know nothing of the dude outside of what's been posted by users like you here on ST. I don't follow what that loser does or is he a winner seeing how he's still in Congress?
Ef-man
10-24-2023, 06:42 PM
:lol your candidate is going to be a convicted felon and you're trying to take the moral high ground. Official party of guilty criminals.
Dems could win on a simple platform: "Vote Democrat as we will have no drama electing a Speaker of the House and we will do it quickly." or "Vote Democrat as we get government shit done right and fast."
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10-24-2023, 06:57 PM
Dems could win on a simple platform: "Vote Democrat as we will have no drama electing a Speaker of the House and we will do it quickly." or "Vote Democrat as we get government shit done right and fast."
And even if the Republican gets made President we'll just attempt to assassinate him night & day like we did Trump and that worked out. In the end we dragged his ass out into the street and to the Tree of Woe..."Crucify him."
daboom1
10-25-2023, 02:00 PM
Dems could win on a simple platform: "Vote Democrat as we will have no drama electing a Speaker of the House and we will do it quickly." or "Vote Democrat as we get government shit done right and fast."
Dems are bought and paid for across the board. Good point Effy :tu
Effy
daboom1
10-25-2023, 02:01 PM
And even if the Republican gets made President we'll just attempt to assassinate him night & day like we did Trump and that worked out. In the end we dragged his ass out into the street and to the Tree of Woe..."Crucify him."
6 ways from Sunday, absolutely.
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