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UNT Eagles 2016
10-31-2023, 12:38 AM
I believe that quick-sale french fries (and potato chips in all forms, but they are less commonly eaten) are the leading cause of cancer along with cigarettes. They are cancer sticks, but the ones you eat not the ones you smoke. Also, they are terrible for your heart, and your immune system. They cause acne (even in adults), eczema, and rash, and inflammation throughout the body with all of the unnatural processed and chemically created toxins. The combination of heated vegetable oil, the processed gunk in the factory potatoes, and above all... the carcinogen acrylamide.

We need to wean ourselves off fast food and fattening junk food and it starts with getting rid of fries and potato chips. They are so disgusting and unhealthy.

Potatoes, when eaten properly, are actually a solid vegetable. Though not the most rich in antioxidants and healthy phytopigments, they are a complete source of many essential nutrients more than most other vegetables, and they provide resistant starch which benefits your gut health and immune system, and provides prebiotics which is probiotic food. However, this only applies to baked, mashed, boiled, etc. potatoes. Pan-sauteed and pan-seared is somewhat in the middle, but still acceptable. Home-cooked fries that are pan-fried and not deep-fried are acceptable, though you're cooking out a lot of the health benefits they aren't carcinogenic as long as you avoid vegetable oil.

However, all the disgusting commercial fries and potato chips should be outright banned, or at minimum be treated as tobacco and be taxed to death. And it's absolutely ridiculous that those toxic cancer sticks known as fries are still being fed to our children. They should be strongly regulated at the U.S. federal level.

Thoughts??

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10-31-2023, 12:42 AM
I haven't had a decent fry over a counter since they quit using animal fat to fry 'em in. They're worthless now. I wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with 'em.

ElNono
10-31-2023, 12:53 AM
Pity post

Thread
10-31-2023, 01:17 AM
For awhile back close to the century turn Lay's came out with a fat free potato chip. That GD the was freakin' delicious. Less than 1% fat per serving. It was crazy, but the health nuts in this country started in about it being unhealthy, (forget the word used in making of this chip///started with a U I believe). But they wouldn't let it alone, slowly but surely the bags started disappearing and I had to go from one chain to another hording what I could scavenge until they was gone for good.

Kind of on the same subject, Keebler made that Nutter Butter cookie which I wasn't crazy about until they created a chocolate Nutter Butter. That fuckin' thing dunked in 2% milk was a delicacy I shall take to the grave. Gone abruptly. I called the toll free number but they weren't the mood to talk about it. Another great food discontinued for no apparent reason.

HemisfairArena
10-31-2023, 01:52 AM
Has nothing to do with potatoes, pal,,,,its all about the sodium,,,,salt,,,,,,so you should have just said federal regulation on sodium/salt,,,,now they arent the exact same thing but we can get into that on another day,,,,but salt is the #1 cause of high blood pressure and high blood pressure is the #1 cause of death. End of story. You add the right amount of sodium/salt to any food and it becomes lethal to your health,,,,that is fact,,,,so dont just attack potato chips and fast food,,,,attack canned soups with obscene amounts of sodium,,,ect,,,,,,so the question at the end of the day should be ban sodium/salt,,,yes or no?,,,,,

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 01:57 AM
For awhile back close to the century turn Lay's came out with a fat free potato chip. That GD the was freakin' delicious. Less than 1% fat per serving. It was crazy, but the health nuts in this country started in about it being unhealthy, (forget the word used in making of this chip///started with a U I believe). But they wouldn't let it alone, slowly but surely the bags started disappearing and I had to go from one chain to another hording what I could scavenge until they was gone for good.

Kind of on the same subject, Keebler made that Nutter Butter cookie which I wasn't crazy about until they created a chocolate Nutter Butter. That fuckin' thing dunked in 2% milk was a delicacy I shall take to the grave. Gone abruptly. I called the toll free number but they weren't the mood to talk about it. Another great food discontinued for no apparent reason.

Greatest discontinued food was McDonalds fried pies in the 80s. They were light and crispy. Then in the 90s they replaced that shit with these heavy, sludgy, baked pies that were gross and McDonalds has been worthless since.

ChumpDumper
10-31-2023, 02:32 AM
I believe
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10-31-2023, 06:01 AM
Greatest discontinued food was McDonalds fried pies in the 80s. They were light and crispy. Then in the 90s they replaced that shit with these heavy, sludgy, baked pies that were gross and McDonalds has been worthless since.

Yep, amen, bum. It was as close to a delicacy as one could get for a buck.

& an equal (amen) on the (worthless since) assessment. It ain't life and death of course, but still an American tragedy what has happened there. Very sad.

Will Hunting
10-31-2023, 07:54 AM
I haven't had a decent fry over a counter since they quit using animal fat to fry 'em in. They're worthless now. I wouldn't hit a dog in the ass with 'em.
Frying them in animal fat was also less unhealthy than frying them in the vegetable oil garbage they use today, it sucks they don't do it anymore.

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 08:43 AM
Frying them in animal fat was also less unhealthy than frying them in the vegetable oil garbage they use today, it sucks they don't do it anymore.

90s health trends were so fucking stupid. Fat bad. So we got those amazing light and airy McDonalds fried pies replaced with the heavy disgusting baked ones. Animal fat bad but fat from vegetable oil good now? That stupid myth still lives on. When I lived in California people would try my refried beans and want the recipe and then when I told them I fried them in lard they'd get disgusted like if I somehow did it in canola oil instead it would be better for you when in reality it would just make them taste like shit. At least in Texas a lot of people recognize lard isn't any worse than any other fat your fry in. And then the anti fat craze of the 90s is what led to everything whether at the grocery store or in fast food being pumped full of sugar and now the nation has been ridiculously obese and suffering a type 2 diabetes epidemic for the last 25 years.

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 08:46 AM
Yep, amen, bum. It was as close to a delicacy as one could get for a buck.

& an equal (amen) on the (worthless since) assessment. It ain't life and death of course, but still an American tragedy what has happened there. Very sad.

Worst part is McDonalds still makes those pies from the 80s in a lot of the rest of the world while we get stuck with the dogshit. Mexican McDonalds still has the fried pies. Japan too. I think India, China, Spain also.

Will Hunting
10-31-2023, 09:04 AM
Worst part is McDonalds still makes those pies from the 80s in a lot of the rest of the world while we get stuck with the dogshit. Mexican McDonalds still has the fried pies. Japan too. I think India, China, Spain also.
We’re also stuck with HFCS soda when the rest of the world gets cane sugar soda that tastes way better.

Will Hunting
10-31-2023, 09:07 AM
90s health trends were so fucking stupid. Fat bad. So we got those amazing light and airy McDonalds fried pies replaced with the heavy disgusting baked ones. Animal fat bad but fat from vegetable oil good now? That stupid myth still lives on. When I lived in California people would try my refried beans and want the recipe and then when I told them I fried them in lard they'd get disgusted like if I somehow did it in canola oil instead it would be better for you when in reality it would just make them taste like shit. At least in Texas a lot of people recognize lard isn't any worse than any other fat your fry in. And then the anti fat craze of the 90s is what led to everything whether at the grocery store or in fast food being pumped full of sugar and now the nation has been ridiculously obese and suffering a type 2 diabetes epidemic for the last 25 years.
It was all a lobbying effort by companies like General Mills to make food cheaper to produce and more addictive.

I still laugh at how the “food pyramid” was something 90s kids were taught was diet gospel.

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 09:24 AM
We’re also stuck with HFCS soda when the rest of the world gets cane sugar soda that tastes way better.

Even Mexico uses HFCS for some of their Coke nowadays since it's cheaper there too in some places. Except they don't give the ingredients on the Cokes sold in Mexico so you don't really know if you're getting one with sugar or not. Even the 'Mexican Cokes' they make specifically for the US market in the red label bottle that are marketed as having real sugar got busted for having HFCS in a video I saw on youtube where someone took a bottle of it to a lab to test if it really had sugar.

Will Hunting
10-31-2023, 09:43 AM
Even Mexico uses HFCS for some of their Coke nowadays since it's cheaper there too in some places. Except they don't give the ingredients on the Cokes sold in Mexico so you don't really know if you're getting one with sugar or not. Even the 'Mexican Cokes' they make specifically for the US market in the red label bottle that are marketed as having real sugar got busted for having HFCS in a video I saw on youtube where someone took a bottle of it to a lab to test if it really had sugar.
:lol how recently was this? I haven’t had Mexican coke in like 10 years, but in hindsight the different taste might have been a placebo effect.

Millennial_Messiah
10-31-2023, 10:12 AM
We’re also stuck with HFCS soda when the rest of the world gets cane sugar soda that tastes way better.

HFCS is something that should definitely be regulated if not out right banned, but so should artificial sweeteners. Diet pop (soda) is worse than regular, but if you put cane sugar it'd be not too bad on the health front at all and tastier... and realistically shouldn't be more expensive.

Millennial_Messiah
10-31-2023, 10:14 AM
Frying them in animal fat was also less unhealthy than frying them in the vegetable oil garbage they use today, it sucks they don't do it anymore.

I 100 percent agree with this.

This was a government / big pharma conspiracy for sure.

Side note, the left are the ones who want to do away with meat / real natural sources these days, and they claim they're the environmentalists... more like anti-humanists.

Yuh Bill Gates... take away meat and 90% of the population becomes diabetic in a New York minute.



It was all a lobbying effort by companies like General Mills to make food cheaper to produce and more addictive.

I still laugh at how the “food pyramid” was something 90s kids were taught was diet gospel.

Agreed...

Also, Tyson Foods partnering with "insect protein" companies has me worried. I don't want to eat meat mixed with processed, ground up bugs...


90s health trends were so fucking stupid. Fat bad. So we got those amazing light and airy McDonalds fried pies replaced with the heavy disgusting baked ones. Animal fat bad but fat from vegetable oil good now? That stupid myth still lives on. When I lived in California people would try my refried beans and want the recipe and then when I told them I fried them in lard they'd get disgusted like if I somehow did it in canola oil instead it would be better for you when in reality it would just make them taste like shit. At least in Texas a lot of people recognize lard isn't any worse than any other fat your fry in. And then the anti fat craze of the 90s is what led to everything whether at the grocery store or in fast food being pumped full of sugar and now the nation has been ridiculously obese and suffering a type 2 diabetes epidemic for the last 25 years.

Agreed with this... Go read some Talon Fitness on Youtube, he's one of my favorite Youtube channels. He's not partisan at all and he explains nutrition science of food in depth. His tier lists on every food group and category are excellent.

He has Lard, Tallow, and Chicken Fat as "A" tier cooking fats and all the vegetable oils are in the "D" tier, I believe.

CosmicCowboy
10-31-2023, 10:14 AM
90s health trends were so fucking stupid. Fat bad. So we got those amazing light and airy McDonalds fried pies replaced with the heavy disgusting baked ones. Animal fat bad but fat from vegetable oil good now? That stupid myth still lives on. When I lived in California people would try my refried beans and want the recipe and then when I told them I fried them in lard they'd get disgusted like if I somehow did it in canola oil instead it would be better for you when in reality it would just make them taste like shit. At least in Texas a lot of people recognize lard isn't any worse than any other fat your fry in. And then the anti fat craze of the 90s is what led to everything whether at the grocery store or in fast food being pumped full of sugar and now the nation has been ridiculously obese and suffering a type 2 diabetes epidemic for the last 25 years.

I can immediately tell when a mexican restaurant does their refried beans with lard or that other shit.

Spurminator
10-31-2023, 10:19 AM
Side note, the left are the ones who want to do away with meat / real natural sources these days, and they claim they're the environmentalists... more like anti-humanists.

I'm all for going back to real ingredients but right-wing poors like you bitch whenever food prices increase, you can't have it both ways.

Millennial_Messiah
10-31-2023, 10:26 AM
I'm all for going back to real ingredients but right-wing poors like you bitch whenever food prices increase, you can't have it both ways.

They've already increased way enough over the last 2 years without any improvement in quality or healthfulness.

What we need is to, first reverse inflation (prices) back to 2019, possibly get back to the gold standard, and have a 1-2% inflation federal law / mandate that triggers sky-high interest rates to axe inflation whenever it crosses the 2.0% inflation threshold. Make sure GDP and the stock market never gets too high or out of control. Encourage more bonds, high yield CDs, less stocks.

Cheap borrowing power for too long and the stimulus crap of 2020 caused this. Yes, Trump signed it into law, but if he'd vetoed it he almost certainly would have gotten the veto overriden with a 67% majority and looked like a clown in an election year, to all except those who are actually financially responsible like a Rand Paul type. It was a lose-lose scenario for both Trump and America.

clambake
10-31-2023, 10:28 AM
Hey, what does your kid eat?

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 10:44 AM
I can immediately tell when a mexican restaurant does their refried beans with lard or that other shit.

Yeah lard or bacon fat are the only acceptable thing to fry beans in. Maybe beef tallow would be decent too though haven't tried it.

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 10:48 AM
:lol how recently was this? I haven’t had Mexican coke in like 10 years, but in hindsight the different taste might have been a placebo effect.

This is the video I was referencing; youtube says it's 3 years old.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJgQEpFMptQ

I don't think I could tell a cane sugar Coke from a HFCS one in a double blind taste test and imagine it is mostly placebo effect when people say how much better Mexican Coke is even 20 years ago when it was 100% using sugar.

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 10:52 AM
They've already increased way enough over the last 2 years without any improvement in quality or healthfulness.

What we need is to, first reverse inflation (prices) back to 2019, possibly get back to the gold standard, and have a 1-2% inflation federal law / mandate that triggers sky-high interest rates to axe inflation whenever it crosses the 2.0% inflation threshold. Make sure GDP and the stock market never gets too high or out of control. Encourage more bonds, high yield CDs, less stocks.

Cheap borrowing power for too long and the stimulus crap of 2020 caused this. Yes, Trump signed it into law, but if he'd vetoed it he almost certainly would have gotten the veto overriden with a 67% majority and looked like a clown in an election year, to all except those who are actually financially responsible like a Rand Paul type. It was a lose-lose scenario for both Trump and America.

Jacking up interest rates won't stop the corporate consolidation that is the main factor driving inflation. Only thing that would stop that would be breaking up the huge companies that dominate this nation in pretty much every facet. We basically live in a planned economy now when every industry seems to be dominated by 2-4 companies. I remember when fears of a planned economy making everything expensive were taught as the socialist boogeyman, but it's a feature of capitalism too.

Millennial_Messiah
10-31-2023, 10:58 AM
Jacking up interest rates won't stop the corporate consolidation that is the main factor driving inflation. Only thing that would stop that would be breaking up the huge companies that dominate this nation in pretty much every facet. We basically live in a planned economy now when every industry seems to be dominated by 2-4 companies. I remember when fears of a planned economy making everything expensive were taught as the socialist boogeyman, but it's a feature of capitalism too.

I don't disagree

That's why I label myself as a nationalist populist, not a "capitalism uber alles" type.

People sometimes fail to distinguish between socialism and communism, which is a form of tyranny/absolutism. Some socialism such as antitrust law/breaking up big corporations, blocking some large-scale "mergers" and acquisitions, is a good thing. I've always advocated for this. Heck, some of the old New Deal policy like SS/Medicare which currently has a >90% national approval rating, is socialistic, and people don't really complain about it for the most part these days. Politicians don't run on privatizing it anymore as it's become a bit of a third-rail talking point, and rightfully so.

When people especially on the GOP side try to blame "muh socialism" for all their problems, it comes off to me as very cringe.

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 10:58 AM
I'm all for going back to real ingredients but right-wing poors like you bitch whenever food prices increase, you can't have it both ways.

We could have it both ways. Meat is expensive because 4 packers (Tyson, Cargill, JBS, and National Meat) control the industry and effectively work as a cartel that loots wealth from us at the grocery store and loots wealth from ranchers at auction so everyone gets fucked except for these middlemen.

Thread
10-31-2023, 12:22 PM
We could have it both ways. Meat is expensive because 4 packers (Tyson, Cargill, JBS, and National Meat) control the industry and effectively work as a cartel that loots wealth from us at the grocery store and loots wealth from ranchers at auction so everyone gets fucked except for these middlemen.

I ain't dropped one on ya in quite a long spell. I'm droppin' it. She's doin' her charokay.........okay, she's goin' to the store. "Bye, Girl, bring back cookies and stop by the MacDonald's see---if they brought back the cherry pie, darling. And get lard, lots of lard." It started, thank Christ. A screw here, a switch there, the hell with it when she gets back and wants to know here it's at.

"The bum just dropped it on ST."

"Dale, if you broke that playin' your games I will never forgive you."

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MultiTroll
10-31-2023, 01:40 PM
Haven't any of your significant others turned you onto air frying?
Go for it.
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benefactor
10-31-2023, 01:55 PM
Isn't she a little old for you?

MultiTroll
10-31-2023, 03:05 PM
um she good but ya she might have a younger cousin. :hungry:

spurraider21
10-31-2023, 04:25 PM
prefer taxes over bans for most stuff like this

part of the reason unhealthy foods are popular is also because they are cheap. people are incentivized to take their kids to mcdonalds for impromptu lunch/dinner when too tired or lazy to prep food at home because frankly its easy, quick, and very cheap way to give your kids the calories they need, but comes along with all the shit they dont need

start making it cost prohibitive, and you'll decrease the behavior. somebody who wants that kind of treat so badly that theyre willing to knowingly overspend for it should, but should come with the public benefit of taxation

spurraider21
10-31-2023, 04:26 PM
Greatest discontinued food was McDonalds fried pies in the 80s. They were light and crispy. Then in the 90s they replaced that shit with these heavy, sludgy, baked pies that were gross and McDonalds has been worthless since.
i still find mcdonalds enjoyable

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baseline bum
10-31-2023, 08:47 PM
i still find mcdonalds enjoyable


Meh you're too young to know when McDonalds was way better. Shit's in a sad state now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtYPMmWu5qA

benefactor
10-31-2023, 08:53 PM
i still find mcdonalds enjoyable

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The breakfast and the fries are still fine. I'll get down on a bacon mcdouble from time to time too. Sonic and Wendys still do it for me tbh

spurraider21
10-31-2023, 08:53 PM
Meh you're too young to know when McDonalds was way better. Shit's in a sad state now.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtYPMmWu5qA
egg/sausage mcmuffin + hash brown combo still hits, and the coffee is good

and idc what people say, i still find the bic mac to be tasty.

look man, fast food quality is usually going to be shit. so you gotta do something different with your burger. its why i dont like the quarter pounder. its why the whopper is dogshit. theyre too basic. you can make a boring, basic-ass burger if its going to be shit fast food quality. the only good basic fast food burger is at carl's jr with the famous/superstar because their quality is actually good

best quality fast food imho is The Habit. best bang for buck burger that i've had

benefactor
10-31-2023, 08:54 PM
Whataburger is still Whataburger...but Jesus it's expensive

benefactor
10-31-2023, 08:57 PM
Yeah...their coffee has always been on point. Not on level with Dunkin, but not much is

benefactor
10-31-2023, 08:59 PM
I have a Sonic right by my work. I eat breakfast there twice a week. Super sonic burrito is fucking life

spurraider21
10-31-2023, 09:01 PM
The breakfast and the fries are still fine. I'll get down on a bacon mcdouble from time to time too. Sonic and Wendys still do it for me tbh
their breakast is s-tier among fast food options

their coffee is s-tier among fast food options

their main menu shit is actually not that good, only thing id bother ordering off main menu is the bic mac, but i think big mac holds up well compared to other fast food burgers, so that alone carries for me

their value menu (formerly dollar menu, rip inflation) is A-tier. mcdouble, mcchicken, etc

oreo mcflurry is s-tier fast food dessert

on top of that, they're fucking everywhere so you can reliably find one no matter what road trip you're on. there are also 24 hour locations in popular areas

their weakness is that their main menu is pretty shit aside from big mac (i find quarter pounder to be bland and who the fuck is ordering fast food fish), and they dont have good sides. fries are fine, but where are the onion rings? waffle fries?

spurraider21
10-31-2023, 09:05 PM
micky d's is the ole reliable, and #1 fast food option overall for the reasons above

if i actually want a reasonable, quality meal that i dont feel like shit for eating, The Habit is #1 and i have not encountered a close second. phenomenal burgers. phenomenal chicken sandwiches. amazing fries. and goated onion rings (among fast food)

#1 fast food option for late night cravings is Taco Bell (honorable mention to Tommys and that is my personal favorite but that is much more niche so im not going to rank it)

Thread
10-31-2023, 09:13 PM
Isn't she a little old for you?

& her titties are sagging and they ain't original issue.

benefactor
10-31-2023, 09:16 PM
Well Taco Bell is all of us late nights lol..Ill take that late night beefy five layer burrito all day every day.

I love McDonalds breakfast but the breakfast burger at Whataburger is the standard. I get one anytime I can.

benefactor
10-31-2023, 09:19 PM
Honestly though, breakfast for me when Im not working is Mexico Lindo near my house. Those burritos son...beans, chorizo, eggs and jalapenos....but the house made tortilla makes it

Blake
10-31-2023, 10:03 PM
egg/sausage mcmuffin + hash brown combo still hits, and the coffee is good

and idc what people say, i still find the bic mac to be tasty.

look man, fast food quality is usually going to be shit. so you gotta do something different with your burger. its why i dont like the quarter pounder. its why the whopper is dogshit. theyre too basic. you can make a boring, basic-ass burger if its going to be shit fast food quality. the only good basic fast food burger is at carl's jr with the famous/superstar because their quality is actually good

best quality fast food imho is The Habit. best bang for buck burger that i've had

I always find it strange that's Carl's Jr never has had staying power in SA. Maybe the locations have been crap

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 10:09 PM
I always find it strange that's Carl's Jr never has had staying power in SA. Maybe the locations have been crap

Both of the ones I have tried in San Antonio were great when they opened and then fell off hard on quality within a year or two. They're pretty solid in LA though.

spurraider21
10-31-2023, 10:29 PM
no whataburger's near me, so i cant comment

is it like fatburger?

baseline bum
10-31-2023, 10:58 PM
no whataburger's near me, so i cant comment

is it like fatburger?

Nah Fatburger is way better, at least good Fatburger like the one in Westwood (one on Wilshire on the other side of the 405 always sucked). I'd probably put Whataburger a little above LA Carl's Jr though.

HemisfairArena
11-01-2023, 12:52 AM
its a thread like this that makes me wish I had become a cardiologist,,,,,

Millennial_Messiah
11-01-2023, 01:11 AM
You guys are so fat. :lol

If nothing else there should be a fat tax.

Not a tax on food containing fat per se (other than trans fat), but certainly a tax on fast food, fat people, and processed food/food containing proven toxic chemicals like acrylamide, HFCS, sodium nitrite, added nitrates, and others. Everything from fries to fried food to candy to beef jerky.



their breakast is s-tier among fast food options

their coffee is s-tier among fast food options

their main menu shit is actually not that good, only thing id bother ordering off main menu is the bic mac, but i think big mac holds up well compared to other fast food burgers, so that alone carries for me

their value menu (formerly dollar menu, rip inflation) is A-tier. mcdouble, mcchicken, etc

oreo mcflurry is s-tier fast food dessert

on top of that, they're fucking everywhere so you can reliably find one no matter what road trip you're on. there are also 24 hour locations in popular areas

their weakness is that their main menu is pretty shit aside from big mac (i find quarter pounder to be bland and who the fuck is ordering fast food fish), and they dont have good sides. fries are fine, but where are the onion rings? waffle fries?
:lol

Their coffee and wifi is an A-tier combo on a road trip, particularly considering how common and consistent they are location to location... that's about it. If it's one of those few McDonalds in like Montana or Canada that don't have outlets, drops to like C or D tier. But you can't beat getting a sub- $2 coffee and basically being allowed to loiter on your PC with wifi and get work done using McDonalds as your remote office... done that many times... it's nice to have a place that opens at like 5am or 6am on road trips instead of having to wait until 9am until the library opens (or worse, some libraries are closed at random times and days).

The value menu was B or C tier in the 2000s and early 2010s when everything was a buck. Good occasionally for a poor high school or college student. Now it's D and borderline F tier. I'd much rather pay a little more at a real restaurant (or eat at home) and eat something unprocessed and actually relatively healthy over paying $3.99 for a fucking nasty fake-tasting chicken sandwich or mystery meat burger.

Their breakfast, apart from the greasy unhealthy hashbrowns which are edible but gross, is outright disgusting, F tier all the way. Their eggs especially are F- tier. Then again, so is every other fast food breakfast. Breakfast is something you either eat out at a dine-in restaurant, eat at home, or don't eat at all (the latter is my choice typically 97% of days).

And the quarter pounder tastes like barf. The Whopper and Whataburger are basic AF, sure, but at least they're edible... C tier, arguably D tier for Whataburger considering the sky high prices there.

Burger made at home... A- or S- tier, depending on how well I cook it and what toppings I have available.

spurraider21
11-01-2023, 01:23 AM
its a thread like this that makes me wish I had become a cardiologist,,,,,
i actually rarely eat fast food. ate like an animal in senior year of high school and thru college though

Thread
11-01-2023, 01:48 AM
i actually rarely eat fast food. ate like an animal in senior year of high school and thru college though

You've always been partial to the tubular steak though.

Blake
11-01-2023, 01:48 AM
its a thread like this that makes me wish I had become a cardiologist,,,,,

:lol like you had any chance at that

ElNono
11-01-2023, 02:35 AM
There's Wegovy and Ozempic now too, if you can afford it...

HemisfairArena
11-01-2023, 03:06 AM
:lol like you had any chance at that

who do you think didnt succeed and now salts the fuck out of your fries?,,,,when youre cloggin' those vessels and wiping the excess salt off your fingers with a few napkins,,,,just think of ole Hemi,,,,I'm the one pouring double amounts on those bitches,,,,enjoy!!!!

ChumpDumper
11-01-2023, 03:25 AM
I get McDonald's fries without salt. Pretty much guarantees they make them fresh for you.

Definitely wouldn't go there as much without the discounts you can get in their app. Also they were almost the only fast food restaurants that had 24hr locations after the Great Reset -- although some Wendy's spots have started doing that in time for chili season.

Spurminator
11-01-2023, 09:20 AM
Wait, y'all think McD's coffee is good? I'm not a coffee snob by any means but that shit tastes like liquid ashtray. Sucks because I do like the breakfast.

Thread
11-01-2023, 09:34 AM
Wait, y'all think McD's coffee is good? I'm not a coffee snob by any means but that shit tastes like liquid ashtray. Sucks because I do like the breakfast.

...& your partial to the tubular steak as well.

MultiTroll
11-01-2023, 10:29 AM
Wait, y'all think McD's coffee is good? I'm not a coffee snob by any means but that shit tastes like liquid ashtray. Sucks because I do like the breakfast.
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Chucho
11-01-2023, 11:13 AM
I do dig making potatoes similar in size and shape to Taco Bell's fiesta potatoes in the air fryer. A little olive oil and some good garlic salt...done and done.

Also...since being back in San Antonio...shout out to BurgerBoy for not only surviving, but thriving! I used to live near the Witte back in the day and there was just that one ratty location near downtown, but damn it was good.

Still friggin delicious, it's better than Whataburger but with a simple menu like In and Out but I love their crinkle cut fries, they're cooked perfect crispy.

Cry Havoc
11-01-2023, 11:49 AM
Wait, y'all think McD's coffee is good? I'm not a coffee snob by any means but that shit tastes like liquid ashtray. Sucks because I do like the breakfast.

McD's actually changed their coffee provider about a decade ago AFAIK and it's better now.

That said, jesus christ if you're going to McDonald's for coffee you have 0 interest in how it tastes. A $40 moka pot or chemex at home will blow away most big chains and it's incredibly easy to make.

baseline bum
11-01-2023, 12:04 PM
I do dig making potatoes similar in size and shape to Taco Bell's fiesta potatoes in the air fryer. A little olive oil and some good garlic salt...done and done.

Also...since being back in San Antonio...shout out to BurgerBoy for not only surviving, but thriving! I used to live near the Witte back in the day and there was just that one ratty location near downtown, but damn it was good.

Still friggin delicious, it's better than Whataburger but with a simple menu like In and Out but I love their crinkle cut fries, they're cooked perfect crispy.

I'm old enough to remember Whopper Burger, the original. Then after Burger King bought them out my grandmother used to take me to the Murf's Better Burger on West Ave and that was great too and I'd always try to get my dad to try it but he was never interested until he found out it was owned by the original owner of Whopper Burger. So yeah it's great to see Burger Boy thriving since it's just like Whopper Burger I remember from the early to mid 80s and the Murfs Better Burger I remember from the late 80s to mid 90s.

Are Burger Boy's shakes any good? I used to love grabbing shakes when I'd get a burger in LA since In N Out and Fatburger both make great ones, but quit getting them when I'd grab a burger after coming back to Texas since Whataburger shakes are such trash.

baseline bum
11-01-2023, 12:19 PM
I get McDonald's fries without salt. Pretty much guarantees they make them fresh for you.

Definitely wouldn't go there as much without the discounts you can get in their app. Also they were almost the only fast food restaurants that had 24hr locations after the Great Reset -- although some Wendy's spots have started doing that in time for chili season.

The pandemic that ended all day breakfast was pretty much the last straw that killed McDonalds for me. I hate eating in the morning as I gotta be up an hour and a half to have any appetite whatsoever and by then I'm at work. So pretty much only go to McDonalds now if say I'm driving to the coast before 10:30AM and want a chicken biscuit and a hash brown off the highway where I can't get breakfast tacos or Bill Miller pancakes (my gotos if I want fast food breakfast on weekends in town).

boutons_deux
11-01-2023, 01:33 PM
alcohol and tobacco have and will sicken and kill many more than junk food shit, which causes NAFLD, obesity, diabetes

Chucho
11-01-2023, 01:55 PM
I'm old enough to remember Whopper Burger, the original. Then after Burger King bought them out my grandmother used to take me to the Murf's Better Burger on West Ave and that was great too and I'd always try to get my dad to try it but he was never interested until he found out it was owned by the original owner of Whopper Burger. So yeah it's great to see Burger Boy thriving since it's just like Whopper Burger I remember from the early to mid 80s and the Murfs Better Burger I remember from the late 80s to mid 90s.

Are Burger Boy's shakes any good? I used to love grabbing shakes when I'd get a burger in LA since In N Out and Fatburger both make great ones, but quit getting them when I'd grab a burger after coming back to Texas since Whataburger shakes are such trash.


The only one I've tried is the Fruity Pebbles shake and that was pretty good. Starts crunchy, the pebbles get soggy but make it taste like cereal milk. I've heard good things about their Big Red shake, too.

And I fucking MISS Murf's burgers. Their chilicheese burger was sooo delicious. Almost as good as Chester's chili cheese burger.

But gospel...Chester's green chili cheese burger is a King. Do a no-toast bun and no lettuce the next time you order...and broken onion rings with a side of ranch...and their shakes are pretty fucking good and thick, too. They're just kinda expensive for what they are.

Winehole23
11-01-2023, 02:07 PM
lol big government liberals like MM policing nutritional choices

baseline bum
11-01-2023, 02:11 PM
The only one I've tried is the Fruity Pebbles shake and that was pretty good. Starts crunchy, the pebbles get soggy but make it taste like cereal milk. I've heard good things about their Big Red shake, too.

And I fucking MISS Murf's burgers. Their chilicheese burger was sooo delicious. Almost as good as Chester's chili cheese burger.

But gospel...Chester's green chili cheese burger is a King. Do a no-toast bun and no lettuce the next time you order...and broken onion rings with a side of ranch...and their shakes are pretty fucking good and thick, too. They're just kinda expensive for what they are.

I like Chester's but they're so expensive if I'm going to pay that much I might as well go to Chris Madrid's.

Thread
11-01-2023, 02:52 PM
There's Wegovy and Ozempic now too, if you can afford it...

Or, for free, just slash your caloric intake and exercise. Voila, it falls off and for free.

Thread
11-01-2023, 02:55 PM
alcohol and tobacco have and will sicken and kill many more than junk food shit, which causes NAFLD, obesity, diabetes

Fine on the tobacco side, bouts, but they ain't touchin' alcohol. No fuckin' way. That's pure commerce up and down the line, otherwise why in the name of common sense, decency and love of life would they let people drive to a bar, three hours later come out of said bar and drive away? tee, hee.

Chucho
11-01-2023, 03:03 PM
I like Chester's but they're so expensive if I'm going to pay that much I might as well go to Chris Madrid's.


EWWWWWWW. Chris Madrid's is awful. A shitty burger buried in cheap mild cheddar cheese melted in a toaster.

Chris Madrid's is the Olive Garden of SA burger joints, complete with leaving their breads near the fly killer.

Bruh, if you want, we can hook up at the Chesters on Pat Booker one night during a Spurs game and I got your food on me. I don't have to pay anything there except for shakes, soda, beer, chicken wings or salads.

Just be cocaine friendly and buy your own booze...they have 200 beers and 30 wines...but let's bring back Spurs viewing parties.

Chucho
11-01-2023, 03:14 PM
Or, for free, just slash your caloric intake and exercise. Voila, it falls off and for free.

You do realize you're becoming the new Avante, right Dale?

The catch is, mindless losers like Chris and Andy think you're their last vestige.

Chris has never had a unique thought and is pretty much the retarded Derp who was always signaling for a hero and Andy...well, to be honest, there are a BUNCH of fucking idiots who think that cretin had a kid and walked out on it like a coon would, so he gets a few points for doing that.

Also, Homer and Effy are the same person. No one really likes them, that's why they are horny to get their heads patted and, since no one likes them, they sniff Faggs, a PROVEN PEDOPHILE, ass to get acceptance.

baseline bum
11-01-2023, 03:20 PM
EWWWWWWW. Chris Madrid's is awful. A shitty burger buried in cheap mild cheddar cheese melted in a toaster.

Chris Madrid's is the Olive Garden of SA burger joints, complete with leaving their breads near the fly killer.

Bruh, if you want, we can hook up at the Chesters on Pat Booker one night during a Spurs game and I got your food on me. I don't have to pay anything there except for shakes, soda, beer, chicken wings or salads.

Just be cocaine friendly and buy your own booze...they have 200 beers and 30 wines...but let's bring back Spurs viewing parties.

LOL gotta really disagree, have loved Chris Madrid's since the early 90s.

Leetonidas
11-01-2023, 03:25 PM
who do you think didnt succeed and now salts the fuck out of your fries?,,,,when youre cloggin' those vessels and wiping the excess salt off your fingers with a few napkins,,,,just think of ole Hemi,,,,I'm the one pouring double amounts on those bitches,,,,enjoy!!!!

So you work at McDonald's? :lol that explains a lot

Thread
11-01-2023, 03:46 PM
You do realize you're becoming the new Avante, right Dale?

The catch is, mindless losers like Chris and Andy think you're their last vestige.

Chris has never had a unique thought and is pretty much the retarded Derp who was always signaling for a hero and Andy...well, to be honest, there are a BUNCH of fucking idiots who think that cretin had a kid and walked out on it like a coon would, so he gets a few points for doing that.

Also, Homer and Effy are the same person. No one really likes them, that's why they are horny to get their heads patted and, since no one likes them, they sniff Faggs, a PROVEN PEDOPHILE, ass to get acceptance.

We're all human Chooch. Struggling to find our way daily...some days/most days end up a nighttime graveyard walk for me.

I would have done likewise what Andrew did, either that, or, most likely the kid would now be an orphan and I'd be on a row-of-death. Rest assured, she would not have gotten away with that if it cost me my life. I grief for Ange, almost daily. And I pray for his peace of mind, so, that he doesn't do what I would have done.

I'm no better, nor worse than any of us on ST. I'm no sage. I like all you guys, friends and enemies alike, Effy especially for his Fucked around/Found out thingy. I value you all. Nobody talks sports and politics like you fellows and the guys over on the Suns side of things. It's a wonderment that I found you all. It's a gift I received and shall always cherish.

Thread
11-01-2023, 03:48 PM
So you work at McDonald's? :lol that explains a lot

That extra large metal salt shaker over by the Fries hot light being shook is a sight, Lee.

spurraider21
11-01-2023, 04:19 PM
Wait, y'all think McD's coffee is good? I'm not a coffee snob by any means but that shit tastes like liquid ashtray. Sucks because I do like the breakfast.
im comparing to other fast food options, not coffee i can make at home or at an actual cafe

spurraider21
11-01-2023, 04:25 PM
also, chump is correct about the app deals being good as well.

scott
11-01-2023, 07:36 PM
didn't read this entire stupid thread, but lol self-proclaimed libertarians

scott
11-01-2023, 07:38 PM
EWWWWWWW. Chris Madrid's is awful. A shitty burger buried in cheap mild cheddar cheese melted in a toaster.

Chris Madrid's is the Olive Garden of SA burger joints, complete with leaving their breads near the fly killer.

Bruh, if you want, we can hook up at the Chesters on Pat Booker one night during a Spurs game and I got your food on me. I don't have to pay anything there except for shakes, soda, beer, chicken wings or salads.

Just be cocaine friendly and buy your own booze...they have 200 beers and 30 wines...but let's bring back Spurs viewing parties.

Love how this just goes unnoticed lol

Ef-man
11-01-2023, 10:09 PM
Love how this just goes unnoticed lol

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Blake
11-01-2023, 10:52 PM
I don't have to pay anything there except for shakes, soda, beer, chicken wings or salads.

Those sound like pretty good employee perks

Spurminator
11-01-2023, 11:02 PM
im comparing to other fast food options, not coffee i can make at home or at an actual cafe

Fair enough, I'm not sure I've tried any other fast food options.

Millennial_Messiah
11-02-2023, 12:43 AM
I like Chester's but they're so expensive if I'm going to pay that much I might as well go to Chris Madrid's.

Best burger in SA... last ate there in 2013, my high school took all the AP-testing students there for a free burger/meal there after some presentation at UTSA.

If you can find a parking spot there... :lol that's certainly an adventure.

Bud Jones (sit-down restaurant) is another spot I favored in high school, with an atrocious parking situation.


didn't read this entire stupid thread, but lol self-proclaimed libertarians
I'm more of a nationalist populist, but libertarian on the social/religious issues (I'm an atheist and always have been, family is too) and stuff like medical choice and school choice.

I would say I'm more Centrist on the economic issues more than a true libertarian. I definitely favor supply side economics over Keynesian, high interest rates and low inflation, low government spending, defunding foreign aid etc. But I also support breaking up the corporatocracy and taking a stand against monopolies, oligopolies, and woke capitalism (i.e. DEI in the monopolous vulture-capitalist private sector). I believe medicare for all is a much better solution than obamacare which just made the already greedy insurance companies extremely rich at the expense of the everyday citizen.


im comparing to other fast food options, not coffee i can make at home or at an actual cafe
IMO, it is comparable to Starbucks and costs about 25% of a Starbucks.

HemisfairArena
11-02-2023, 01:30 AM
LMAO!!!!,,,Chris Madrid died of an enlarged heart cause by HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE,,,which i just told you about with sodiium/salt,,,,,he was eating his own salt smothered fatty burgers and fucked his shit up,,,,but you guys go on eating this shit,,,by all means,,,,,knock yourselves out,,,,,:lmao

Chris Madrid died of an enlarged heart (mysanantonio.com) (https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local_news/article/Chris-Madrid-died-of-an-enlarged-heart-3400569.php)

Restaurateur Chris Madrid (https://www.mysanantonio.com/search/?action=search&channel=news%2Flocal&inlineLink=1&searchindex=property&query=%22Chris+Madrid%22), 61, died of an enlarged heart caused by high blood pressure, an autopsy conducted by the Bexar County medical examiner's office concluded.

Chucho
11-02-2023, 09:40 AM
Love how this just goes unnoticed lol


It's true. I snort copious amounts of cocaine.

benefactor
11-02-2023, 09:52 AM
It's true. I snort copious amounts of cocaine.
I've always said more people do coke than you think. I'd say most people here do it occasionally. I'll rail a line if it shows up somewhere. If you are just hanging with friends and it gets offered hell why not?

MultiTroll
11-02-2023, 10:06 AM
Love how this just goes unnoticed lol

Chunkos exercise program:


Cocaine binges dropped 30 llbs in 2 months, tbh.

Chucho
11-02-2023, 10:33 AM
I've always said more people do coke than you think. I'd say most people here do it occasionally. I'll rail a line if it shows up somewhere. If you are just hanging with friends and it gets offered hell why not?

Especially females.

Cocaine is, easily, the best social high when paired with liquor. And it's a panty dropper. It's a classy drug that separates the pot-smoking couch-farters and dirty chem drug users from social drug users who have a good time.

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Chucho
11-02-2023, 10:34 AM
Chunkos exercise program:

Sorry it's not GHB or other rape drugs you'd condone, you pedophile creep.

MultiTroll
11-02-2023, 10:36 AM
Chunko needs the energy to stalk elderly obese women at Senior buildings. :lol

Spurminator
11-02-2023, 10:37 AM
I've always said more people do coke than you think.

I agree with this.


I'd say most people here do it occasionally.

Not this though lol

benefactor
11-02-2023, 11:13 AM
I agree with this.



Not this though lol
I think so. There's nothing really wrong with it in moderation like almost anything. It's not like you are hooked on meth or any shit like that. You are at a gtg with friends and do a line or two. You aren't buying it every day to feed any kind of addiction. If so then you definitely need to evaluate your choices

benefactor
11-02-2023, 11:15 AM
Especially females.

Cocaine is, easily, the best social high when paired with liquor. And it's a panty dropper. It's a classy drug that separates the pot-smoking couch-farters and dirty chem drug users from social drug users who have a good time.

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During the reception of our wedding my wife and I did blow off her buddies nipples lol. It was good times. I sometimes feel like no one here has left their house in ten years.

Chucho
11-02-2023, 11:16 AM
I agree with this.



Not this though lol

LOL, most people here lie out their teeth about their lives.

There are guys who are up at ungodly hours posting over shit only a coked out person coming down would post about and it's not just the derps, it's a lot of lifers doing the same thing.

Chucho
11-02-2023, 11:18 AM
During the afterparty of our wedding my wife and I did blow off her buddies nipples lol. It was good times. I sometimes feel like no one here has left their house in ten years.

To be honest, a lot of people probably havent.

Having coke has gotten me in places money can't get you in. Having coke has brought me pussy even Splits can't afford.

An ounce of uncut yay costs pretty much the same, if not more, than an ounce of 24k gold.

benefactor
11-02-2023, 11:25 AM
To be honest, a lot of people probably havent.

Having coke has gotten me in places money can't get you in. Having coke has brought me pussy even Splits can't afford.

An ounce of uncut yay costs pretty much the same, if not more, than an ounce of 24k gold.
I don't carry it around. I see that as just asking for a charge. If we are all chilling I might throw in on a 8 if someone is talking about picking some up. I'd put my coke use at once a month or so.

Thread
11-02-2023, 12:01 PM
LOL, most people here lie out their teeth about their lives.

There are guys who are up at ungodly hours posting over shit only a coked out person coming down would post about and it's not just the derps, it's a lot of lifers doing the same thing.

I've always wanted to try coke just one time, but the wife protests vehemently each time I broach this subject with her. I wouldn't do it without her in the same room just in case it causes me to perhaps have a bad reaction.

"Well then can I dress up in your panties?"

"No, no panties, no coke. I'll make you some pudding."

"Shaky pudding?"

"Dale!

Chucho
11-02-2023, 12:06 PM
I've always wanted to try coke just one time, but the wife protests vehemently each time I broach this subject with her. I wouldn't do it without her in the same room just in case it causes me to perhaps have a bad reaction.

"Well then can I dress up in your panties?"

"No, no panties, no coke. I'll make you some pudding."

"Shaky pudding?"

"Dale!

You'd get the shaky pudding if she'd toot a line.

And coke doesn't let you down like Trump has.

Thread
11-02-2023, 12:23 PM
You'd get the shaky pudding if she'd toot a line.

And coke doesn't let you down like Trump has.

...he's never let me down, Chooch. Being with him these last 7 years have been the greatest. He is a wonderment. Me as him? I'd have been broken by now, a ways back in fact: heeled up, all chambers filled and headed on down there, like Wayne -The Shootist-...not him, no "Shootist"---no fetal position.

He's Davy Crockett..."Make sure you're right.........then go ahead." I'm more "Paul Kersey.".........

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Tyronn Lue
11-04-2023, 01:12 PM
This went from a thread about fries and coke to Thread longing for a different type of coke. Only on ST.

Blake
11-04-2023, 05:24 PM
Old man wanting to wear Granny panties. Thanks for that

CosmicCowboy
11-05-2023, 04:05 PM
Back in the day had an in with the son of the Peruvian ambassador going to UT. Had access to uncut lbs that he brought in inside a diplomatic pouch.

Thread
11-05-2023, 04:10 PM
Back in the day had an in with the son of the Peruvian ambassador going to UT. Had access to uncut lbs that he brought in inside a diplomatic pouch.

Sounds like a wedgee afterward.

UNT Eagles 2016
11-05-2023, 08:09 PM
Cocaine rots out your brain