Game Thread: Spurs @ SONS Oct 31ST - HAPPY HOLLOWEEN - (4 AM Riga Time)

[Splits]

Sons by 22

[Leetonidas]

No one listed out for SA. Booker, Beal, and Lee are out for Phoenix

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/TrevorMBooth/status/1719502438959591863

[onechance87]

hopefully we rebound and dont turn the ball over.....And im looking closely if the team gets
wemby the ball when hes open or in the paint....Not give him the ball when hes covered by two guys or
at the three pont line,Pretty much setting him up to fail.

[scott]

1719507085384118491

Wemby ready.

[heyheymymy]

damb Wemby going to go mike Myers tonight

[thiste]

Most appropriate costume of all time. :lol

[Chinook]

Was thinking of that being his nickname but figured it was before his time.

[RC_Drunkford]

Honestly the Spurs have to win this with Booker and Beal out. The Suns bench are a bunch of ex-Spurs players who couldn't make the Spurs roster. If they can't win this, it will be a loooooong season

[Mugen]

:lol I love Wemby tbh

[BatManu20]

1719507085384118491

Wemby ready.

Legendary costume tbh. Best one I’ve ever seen by an NBA player.

[BatManu20]

Slimbanyama. Trademark it.

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9zsWXdXAAAF6Xu?format=jpg&name=medium

[heyheymymy]

are book and beal active yet for phx tonight?

[Arcadian]

Same starting lineup tonight?

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxanLJV2ckQ

[Leetonidas]

are book and beal active yet for phx tonight?

First reply in this thread my man

[PhantomDashCam]

Pop extra crotchety tonight.

This should be fun one.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF-lDM8sRbw

[spurraider21]

Pop extra crotchety tonight.

This should be fun one.
or he's already checked out today

[Pauleta14]

Love to see ol' grumpy Pop!
Thought he lost it

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9z90qjXQAAUSLC?format=jpg&name=large

[RC_Drunkford]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9z90qjXQAAUSLC?format=jpg&name=large

:pop: "You know we gotta keep pounding the rock"

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BenGolliver/status/1719531764379685372

[Spurs Homer]

Was hoping collins would get a rest…

[JeffDuncan]

Are you ready for the show that everyone is talking about? Are you prepared to witness the most frightening presentation of the Halloween season?

You’ll tremble! You’ll shiver! You’ll shudder with fear when you see…

Sochan At Point Guard!

It will terrify you! Don’t miss it!

Oh, and also…

Go Spurs Go!!

[ace3g]

Turnover to start the game...

[heyheymymy]

First reply in this thread my man

oh shit thanks

[Spurs Homer]

Here we go already…

[itzsoweezee]

Already seeing that elite defense

[Degoat]

We just have looked so slow out there

[TekXX]

LOL pop with the timeout....yikes

[Seventyniner]

Picking up where they left off...

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao

[spurraider21]

how did wemby not come down with the offensive rebound?

opening turnover was chef's kiss. reminded me of the inbound pass turnover from the other day

[Spurs Homer]

Vw guarded by durant- POST HIM UP!

[mikec]

LOL. TO to start followed by backdoor cut.

[PhantomDashCam]

or he's already checked out today

https://media4.giphy.com/media/in6mnJNYjGKpq/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47j93vahmpwml62v2tru0663i8ijkr 02x1z342isxy&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

[spurraider21]

snarky asshole pop made sense when the spurs were a well oiled machine and reporters would ask dumb questions to nitpick or basically ask "why did you lose today" type questions

it had the "i know what im doing, the team is just fine, stfu" vibe

doesnt work when the team is shit

[widowmaker]

The body language on this team since the last game makes me think something is going on.

[Joseph Kony]

good god just put Jones in the fucking game

[TekXX]

It's not pretty folks

[spurraider21]

The body language on this team since the last game makes me think something is going on.
its the same look i see the raiders have when they see garoppolo is getting back into the huddle yet again after each interception

[ace3g]

Right now Wemby is at this stage, dribbling wise in the NBA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGJW9w6_A_I

[SPURt]

Collins is struggling dang

[KDKSpurs24]

That play right there by Vassell just PISSED ME OFF!! It shows how low this team’s basketball IQs are!! You KNOW Wemby leaks for a fast break after his 3pt blocks and Vassell didn’t even look to throw it up to him. Wemby does it every game. That right there tells me a lot about a player..

[TekXX]

wide open shots, plenty of opportunities for the suns

[SpursFan86]

Ffs, getting hard to watch

[spurraider21]

feels like we're always playing 4 on 5 on defense. at least when victor is out there he can cover 2 guys

[ernest787]

We don't have anyone who can shoot

[jeebus]

This team sucks yo. They make last year's team look like the '14 Spurs

[CapitalEmm]

Keldon is ass

[spurraider21]

keldon's catapult shooting form...

[SpursFan86]

People here who were thinking this is a 45-50 win roster :lol

[spurraider21]

all of our double teams on defense seem to come from one pass away. everything is too easy. dont force multiple passes, skip passes, etc

[itzsoweezee]

I’m heartened by the fact that at least okogie is ass and keeping the spurs in the game

[TekXX]

People here who were thinking this is a 45-50 win roster :lol

A lot of us knew the tank team plus Wemby would struggle but where told to shutup because this team is amazing.

[PhantomDashCam]

It blows my mind that we can leave a guy wide open, he misses the shot and they can still get an uncontested rebound...

[jeebus]

Feels like the team is rebelling against Pop until he retires, like they're tired of his utter bullshit.

[Rito3d30]

Does the departure of Chip affect THATT much on their shots, Sochan's 3pt shot looks broken...

[Seventyniner]

The body language on this team since the last game makes me think something is going on.

I got the same feeling.

I also haven't seen this many straight boneheaded plays out of the Spurs in a long time. Collins just fumbling the ball out of bounds on the first possession, whatever the hell Branham just tried to do, Bassey both not closing out on the shooter or boxing out, the list goes on and we're only 9 minutes into the game.

[Spurs Homer]

lol ewwwwbanks…

[spurraider21]

Does the departure of Chip affect THATT much on their shots, Sochan's 3pt shot looks broken...
tbh keldon's looks roughly as bad. keldon's shooting motion reminds me of tebow's throwing motion

[Proxy]

yeah I thought they were hungover last game..

[onechance87]

branham needs to go back to the bench and stay there

[InRareForm]

Primetime games effecting every one?

[Robz4000]

Feels like there's no rhyme or reason to what the Spurs are doing on both sides of the ball.

[spurraider21]

branham needs to go back to the bench and stay there
i remember reading that spurs dont need herro because we have branham

how nice a guy like herro would be for this offense tbh. guy who can get off shots quickly, hit them at a high percentage, and competent dribbler/passer

[KDKSpurs24]

Wemby can’t catch or grab rebounds without bobbling the ball most of the time

[baseline bum]

JFC is it too much to ask the Spurs to run a play with Victor instead of sticking him on the god damn weak side every possession?

[Degoat]

It starts with the starting 5, gotta get Sochan out and start Tre, the current starting line up can close games not start games

[Seventyniner]

JFC is it too much to ask the Spurs to run a play

Fixed.

[TekXX]

Can we not do a 4 down with Wemby? Let's try something new Pop....throw something on the wall and see if it sticks

[spurraider21]

a lot of balls bounce right off wemby's hands... youd think with hands that big he'd be able to suction cup everything his way

[Rito3d30]

too many young guns trying to make name for themselves, not gd for Wemby

[itzsoweezee]

Lol at Jones calling his own number for a terrible three

[SPURt]

This is a horror show so far

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

two striaght fast breaks and no one looking for wemby lmao

[widowmaker]

Tre jones waived off wemby to shoot a 3 ok wow.

[Davidicus]

It’s like Wemby is an actual ghost to his teammates this Halloween, no one can find him

[spurraider21]

im glad we slowed down on that last possession so Tre Jones can dribble in place for 15 seconds and pull up for a contested 3 pointer

we are obviously lacking talent, but this kind of stuff falls squarely on pop

[MannyIsGod]

This team is infuriating to watch on offense right now. I don't think I've ever complained about Pop before but I have absolutely no clue wtf he's trying to accomplish with this complete lack of an offensive system.

[Spurs Homer]

Tre jones waves wemby off to shoot a 3 and jones is a shitty shooter…
pop sitting there and is ok with vw just being waved off by a shitty shooter

instead of getting vw a mid range shot over a small defender…

[onechance87]

tre jones lol....yea he belongs on the bench

[TekXX]

You get the feeling Pop didn't think he'd have to coach this much?

[spurraider21]

tre jones lol....yea he belongs on the bench
he's definitely a bench point guard, but given that our roster lacks a starting point guard, he's the best option

that last play though...

[SpursFan86]

What the actual fuck was that last possession by Tre Jones? Seriously?

[8FOR!3]

Seems like the whole team is pressing right now.

[spurs1990]

Put him in Austin one game I’d watch the hell out of that

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao the sniffers thought this team would win 40 games

[DesignatedT]

Coaching staff might be in over its heads here. They keep throwing it to Victor when there’s nothing there and he has to create his own shot but won’t throw it to him on the break when he’s slashing down the middle of the paint with a guy half his size on him. Someone has to figure it out. Seems like they are making it a lot harder on the kid than it has to be.

[baseline bum]

How are the Spurs not running pick and pops with Wemby for midrange jumpers? This is frustrating seeing Sochan and Vassell going to the opposite side of the floor Victor is on every possession.

[PhantomDashCam]

It starts with the starting 5, gotta get Sochan out and start Tre, the current starting line up can close games not start games

I think the biggest problem with the starting five is that they're not taking advantage of their biggest strength... Height. They play down to their competition.

Sochan, Wemby, KJ and Collins should at least be initiating at times out of the low and high post. Haven't seen it once this game.

[widowmaker]

Something about wemby these motherfuckers have a problem with.

[spurraider21]

How are the Spurs not running pick and pops with Wemby for midrange jumpers? This is frustrating seeing Sochan and Vassell going to the opposite side of the floor Victor is on every possession.
"thats a stupid question. were you up all night thinking of that one? i cant explain that for you"

[Rito3d30]

honestly not even a single set to let Wemby trys to go iso?

[jeebus]

No point staying up for this. What a waste of time.

[MannyIsGod]

This is just beyond infuriating. This isn't a sochan at point issue.

[BatManu20]

Wemby hovering around the 3-point line every possession so he can shoot contested 3’s is beyond retarded.

[widowmaker]

Even the suns scrubs are better than ours lol

[ace3g]

Already 11 points off 9 turnovers...

[hater]

:lmao

Glad not watching the game niglets :lol

[Degoat]

Remember over the summer when the spurs didn’t target any FA because they wanted to see what they had…. LMAO

[SpursFan86]

Can blame Pop for not having a game plan but Wemby has looked awful tonight. Calling it what it is.

[TekXX]

If McDermott isn't making shots why is he out there?

[SayNoToDrugsTBH]

and here i am thinking wemby would get set plays in regular season after watching gleague :lol

[Russo21]

Look on the bright side. At least we're going to get another lottery pick next year :lol hopefully we'll be able to find Wemby's sidekick

[baseline bum]

Can blame Pop for not having a game plan but Wemby has looked awful tonight. Calling it what it is.

Yeah he looks like shit tonight but WTF having him constantly on the weak side?

[Chinook]

How are the Spurs not running pick and pops with Wemby for midrange jumpers? This is frustrating seeing Sochan and Vassell going to the opposite side of the floor Victor is on every possession.

That's really not what's happening. Wemby has gotten plenty of touches. He's just not doing anything with them. To run a PnP, you have to screen well, and that's not Wemby's strength.

[AusSpur]

Playing a 3-2 zone and giving up open threes all over the place is a special kind of terrible. Wings are digging in way too much on the drives.

[Spurs Homer]

lol 57 yr old gordon easy open threes

[Robz4000]

Can blame Pop for not having a game plan but Wemby has looked awful tonight. Calling it what it is.

This too. At least I like what I've seen from him defensively.

[Degoat]

That's really not what's happening. Wemby has gotten plenty of touches. He's just not doing anything with them. To run a PnP, you have to screen well, and that's not Wemby's strength.

Why not just do the dirk shot? He’s made it this year, give him the ball mid post and let him shoot above the defender

[cd98]

I expect growing pains, but I think the Spurs are the worst team in the NBA. Way too many turnovers. They get behind, start turning the ball over trying to force plays, and then when they get far enough behind, they give up. This is the risk of not getting any experienced NBA guys there. Next season, they need to bring in some veterans.

[weebo]

wembanyama is soft bros...just looks like he wants no part of physicality

[TekXX]

Remember over the summer when the spurs didn’t target any FA because they wanted to see what they had…. LMAO

How is it possible they didn't know what they had? I get that it's another tank year officially or unofficially, but they shouldn't insult our intelligence

[thiste]

If McDermott isn't making shots why is he out there?

To let the starters rest.

[onechance87]

wemby just stop trying to make plays and shoot it

[weebo]

I expect growing pains, but I think the Spurs are the worst team in the NBA. Way too many turnovers. They get behind, start turning the ball over trying to force plays, and then when they get far enough behind, they give up. This is the risk of not getting any experienced NBA guys there. Next season, they need to bring in some veterans.

been saying this

[KDKSpurs24]

This is just beyond infuriating. This isn't a sochan at point issue.
This is a DUMB TEAM issue. Majority of them really have no clue what they’re doing out there. And this team has no structure

[Chinook]

Why not just do the dirk shot? He’s made it this year, give him the ball mid post and let him shoot above the defender

I'm pretty sure Wemby doesn't want to.

[thiste]

Wemby's not himself rn. His confidence is shot. He'll get around eventually.

[SpursFan86]

Yeah he looks like shit tonight but WTF having him constantly on the weak side?

No doubt, the lack of talent around him and terrible structure/game plan isn’t doing him any favors. Just still hard to watch him struggle this bad…seems like every time he tries to do anything it’s a turnover.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I'd be panicking if I wasn't Team Tank lol.

I'm not kidding. We are in trouble. The team is too limited. You can't have an NBA basketball roster with no players who can dribble like a pro ball player. We have ZERO ball handlers. Yes, Tre can unleash a burst of speed and get to the basket on occasion, given the right angle. Still, we have ZERO ball handlers. No one on the roster can probe a defense. You simply cannot hoop like this.

I foolishly thought Blake Wesley would rise lolol

[SpursFan86]

First positive of the night: Collins finally made a 3

[td4mvp2k]

pop really dont give a ****... no point looking to win any games... he's all about the tank

[hater]

:lmao making a note lots of folks jumping ship on Wemby after 3 games :lmao

Not me. But taking notes today :lmao

3 fucking games morons :lmao

[TekXX]

McDermott shutting me up by actually hitting shots tonight.

[SpursFan86]

:lmao making a note lots of folks jumping ship on Wemby after 3 games :lmao

Not me. But taking notes today :lmao

3 fucking games morons :lmao

Pointing out that he’s playing poorly tonight =/= jumping ship :lol Do you think he’s playing well?

I believe Wemby will be a superstar in this league. I also think he’s playing like shit tonight. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

[PhantomDashCam]

Couple of really nice Sochan sequences.

1. Sochan paint penetration but blows the layup.
2. Sochan runs to the low block to bury Grayson which leads to the KJ pitch to Zach for the wide open three.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Pop isnt a good coach

[couchman]

I honestly think we need to sit Wemby for a game and get back to basics.
Our guys are trying too hard to figure out how to play with him and as a result they’re not even doing what they did well last year.
This is also part of the problem with Wemby not getting a well defined role.
Just let Wemby be Wemby doesn’t work when the 19 year old rookie struggles and gets lost.
Pop needs to give him some basic things that he can do well and then expand from there.

[onechance87]

sochan looking better running the point

[spurraider21]

Pointing out that he’s playing poorly tonight =/= jumping ship :lol Do you think he’s playing well?

I believe Wemby will be a superstar in this league. I also think he’s playing like shit tonight. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
you are responding to a troll

[kxs783kms]

Pointing out that he’s playing poorly tonight =/= jumping ship :lol Do you think he’s playing well?

I believe Wemby will be a superstar in this league. I also think he’s playing like shit tonight. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

Thank you because I'm lost by that post lol

[TekXX]

I honestly think we need to sit Wemby for a game and get back to basics.
Our guys are trying too hard to figure out how to play with him and as a result they’re not even doing what they did well last year.
This is also part of the problem with Wemby not getting a well defined role.
Just let Wemby be Wemby doesn’t work when the 19 year old rookie struggles and gets lost.
Pop needs to give him some basic things that he can do well and then expand from there.

He needs to figure out the NBA, seems a bit lost tbh. So he needs to play more.

[MannyIsGod]

Dude wtf pass the fucking ball

[spurraider21]

the problem isn't "wemby isnt getting the ball enough"

he has 4 turnovers and 5 FGA. and his shot selection is... bad

the problem is that they dont seem to be running any offense at all. every possession feels like the last possession of a quarter where its just a simple on-ball screen and hoping the ball handler can create a shot for himself. and if that fails, back it out, and do it again.

[TekXX]

LOL at the people who thought Collins was better than Poetle.

[Spurs Homer]

Sochan defense on kd not too bad

[SpursFan86]

the problem isn't "wemby isnt getting the ball enough"

he has 4 turnovers and 5 FGA. and his shot selection is... bad

the problem is that they dont seem to be running any offense at all. every possession feels like the last possession of a quarter where its just a simple on-ball screen and hoping the ball handler can create a shot for himself. and if that fails, back it out, and do it again.

100%. Even when they end up scoring, it just looks so…ugly.

[Rito3d30]

they are so lost defensively......oh sorry offensively as well

[Seventyniner]

Dude wtf pass the fucking ball

Ten years after The Beautiful Game we get The Ugly Game smh

[spurraider21]

its not that vassell cant make that contested baseline jumper. but like... why do you think thats a desirable shot to take with 15 on the shot clock?

[Spurs Homer]

lol

ewwwbanks poster

[SayNoToDrugsTBH]

wemby with the fuck you dunk to his teammates

[SpursFan86]

Holy shit, at least we got a highlight out of this disaster

[Robz4000]

Holy shit, at least we got a highlight out of this disaster

:lol that Wemby dunk was nasty

[Russo21]

That's it Wemby take it to the rack. More dunks and less 3s

[Seventyniner]

its not that vassell cant make that contested baseline jumper. but like... why do you think thats a desirable shot to take with 15 on the shot clock?

This.

I would be a pretty terrible head coach, but on day one I would sit Vassell down and tell him to never take that shot unless the shot or game clock is about to expire. There will always be something better.

[8FOR!3]

Ya'll are forgetting too he's an inside out player who isn't playing inside out.

[ace3g]

2:26
https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/nba/500/scoreboard/sa.png&scale=crop&cquality=40&location=origin&w=40&h=40
Keldon Johnson makes 9-foot jumper
43
54



Halftime Spurs down 45-63...

Another drought to end a half.

[spurraider21]

This.

I would be a pretty terrible head coach, but on day one I would sit Vassell down and tell him to never take that shot unless the shot or game clock is about to expire. There will always be something better.
to be frank i feel the same way about basically any wembanyama 3 unless he's wide ass open, able to get his feet nicely set, etc

our guys are way too complacent and take shots that would be acceptable quality if the clock was winding down

[Spurs Homer]

You guys should chill and let wemby get his nba legs…

also there will be a learning curve for this unit to adapt to wemby freelancing out there …
it has never been done before and it will start to slowly improve…

[MannyIsGod]

There is no offense. I have no idea why Pop is doing this, but it makes no fucking sense. This is the same coach who would yell at 3 hall of famers when they didn't do what the system demanded and now with a team that is young AF we've just abandoned having a system at all? Wemby standing in the weak side corner like he's Bruce Bowen is fucking insane. They need to run some action to get him some mid ranged shots. I don't care what the action is, but this man's shot chart should not be all 3 pointers and nothing else while we watch him stand completely away from the action.

[spurraider21]

tbh chris paul would have been a godsend

[thiste]

to be frank i feel the same way about basically any wembanyama 3 unless he's wide ass open, able to get his feet nicely set, etc

our guys are way too complacent and take shots that would be acceptable quality if the clock was winding down

Have you noticed that a good portion of Wemby's missed threes are in & outs? He's missing cuz he's in doubt rn, not because he can't make them.

[slick'81]

Damn no booker or beal!? Lottery here we go

[SpursFan86]

tbh chris paul would have been a godsend

No kidding. People here balked at the idea but I would kill to have CP3 running PnRs with Victor. Tre Jones looks like prime CP3 compared to the other creators on this team :lol

[Chinook]

Ya'll are forgetting too he's an inside out player who isn't playing inside out.

Yes. People can handle the idea that Wemby doesn't want to play the way a lot of us thinks he should be playing. He's called that style of play "limiting". More than it just being that he doesn't want to do it, he isn't good at it at this point because he didn't practice it. That's why he's not rebounding at the rate you'd think he should and why he is bad at setting screens. It's why he doesn't know how to operate in the post. Dude wants to be a perimeter player. The issue is that height will only ever mean so much. Teams have 6-10-plus guys who can affect most things Wemby does out there. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Wemby's best lineups are with him as a single big. I don't want him bodying up on big centers, but I do think he should be an inside presence. The real question is if Victor is frustrated because he's not able to do well playing the way he used to or if he's frustrated because he thinks his performance is due to the coaching staff not putting him in a good position.

[spurraider21]

No kidding. People here balked at the idea but I would kill to have CP3 running PnRs with Victor. Tre Jones looks like prime CP3 compared to the other creators on this team :lol
i dont always see eye to eye with DAF86, but we were both advocating for cp3 over the summer

i was also hoping that lillard-miami trade would happen so that could open the possibility for a lowry acquisition. this team badly needed a veteran point guard who knew what he was doing, would hold people accountable, and could shoot

[benefactor]

Run some offense. Jesus fuck

[spurs10]

Who is Shaq talking about 'Bobo.' I only know one.

[Chinook]

I hope the people bitching about entry passes have been paying attention to the various passes that have been done so far in this game. There's a very clear difference between what a real post entry looks like and the one folks think guys are turning down.

[benefactor]

Shaq talking about Bol Bol. Man stfu

[Chinook]

i dont always see eye to eye with DAF86 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11102), but we were both advocating for cp3 over the summer

i was also hoping that lillard-miami trade would happen so that could open the possibility for a lowry acquisition. this team badly needed a veteran point guard who knew what he was doing, would hold people accountable, and could shoot

Paul still would've been bad. The only good would be that it would be a sign that PATFO thought structure was needed. There is a big gap between finding a guy who can run an offense and finding a guy who will micromanage an offense. They had many ways of getting a guy to fit in the middle but thought Sochan, Jones and Wesley would be sufficient.

[Russo21]

+1 buddy you are spot on

[Spurs Homer]

Im giving pop the benefit of the doubt…

sure, everyone is losing their minds because they want to see the spurs play TRADITIONAL ball and i get it…
but pop is looking ahead and he already committed to allowing wemby to freelance and study him and see what he does and what makes him comfortable - FIRST

and then after 10-20-30 games pop will have ideas about what is possible in this new age style with the nba’s unicorn

or

worst case scenario- IT FAILS

and pop can then have a youngster who realizes he needs the coaches help and is ready for a traditional system instead of just freelancing

but geez you guys are nervous whiny wrecks- just chill

it will be awesome if it ends up working

[spurs10]

Shaq talking about Bol Bol. Man stfu Lol was not paying much attention during the half...Bol Bol!...duh!

[MannyIsGod]

Sure, having Chris Paul running this "offense" would make it seem better than having Tre or Sochan run it, but there's no actual structure so its at best a bandaid. It doesn't matter who you run out there if you don't put the players in positions where they can best succeed. Right now everything Wemby does that is good is simply due to his raw ability. Pop is doing absolutely NOTHING to put him in positions to succeed on offense. This offense has taken steps BACKWARD.

Just incredibly frustrating. There's a reason we're scoring ~20 points per quarter and its not the point guards.

[spurraider21]

Paul still would've been bad. The only good would be that it would be a sign that PATFO thought structure was needed. There is a big gap between finding a guy who can run an offense and finding a guy who will micromanage an offense. They had many ways of getting a guy to fit in the middle but thought Sochan, Jones and Wesley would be sufficient.
if pop isnt planning on teaching, somebody has to. i dont know how many solid vet PGs were there to bad had

[itzsoweezee]

Lol at on/off defensive numbers four the spurs with/without wemby

[dbestpro]

This is some ugly basketball. On defense, no one knows how to move their feet, and there is no help defense. On offense, the ball movement is nonexistent. Not one Spur looks like they should be starting on an NBA team.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Answer this question:

Where does Vic want the ball?

[benefactor]

Answer this question:

Where does Vic want the ball?
We actually have to be running a real offense first

[RC_Drunkford]

Love to see Wemby getting schooled out there. Even Josh Okogie is cooking him

[MannyIsGod]

Literally zero action so far meant to get wemby the ball in a position to shoot inside the arc.

[Death In June]

This is unwatchable. Don’t know how this team is worse than last years group.

[Cabrito]

When is the last time the spurs went on a run? The Houston OT?

[DAF86]

No kidding. People here balked at the idea but I would kill to have CP3 running PnRs with Victor. Tre Jones looks like prime CP3 compared to the other creators on this team :lol

What's the point? Pop would have Collins or Bassey setting the screens while Wemby watches on the weak side, hoping the ball gets to him to jack a three.

[spurraider21]

nobody respects sochan's penetration so it doesnt collapse the defense and he just has to give the ball up to a stagnant teammate after killing half the shot clock

[Seventyniner]

I remember seeing some stats on the Spurs during the Beautiful Game era, but even as recently as 2020-2021, showing that they would be among the league leaders in team passes per game.

It feels like they're passing it far, far less than those teams. Anyone know where I can look up that stat? I can't find it on NBA.com or bkref.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Im giving pop the benefit of the doubt…

sure, everyone is losing their minds because they want to see the spurs play TRADITIONAL ball and i get it…
but pop is looking ahead and he already committed to allowing wemby to freelance and study him and see what he does and what makes him comfortable - FIRST

and then after 10-20-30 games pop will have ideas about what is possible in this new age style with the nba’s unicorn

or

worst case scenario- IT FAILS

and pop can then have a youngster who realizes he needs the coaches help and is ready for a traditional system instead of just freelancing

but geez you guys are nervous whiny wrecks- just chill

it will be awesome if it ends up working

Ur giving Pop WAAAAAY too much credit... I know a bad coach when I see one... I used to advocate for Pop, but the post-duncan years have been telling

[Rubberducky]

Just like game5 against the knicks

[Joseph Kony]

Sochan blows

[spurs10]

Literally zero action so far meant to get wemby the ball in a position to shoot inside the arc. They aren't running plays for him.

[BatManu20]

Jesus Christ Zollins.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Not running plays for Wemby is insane

[SpursFan86]

Our defensive rotations just seem so off. Every damn possession results in a wide open Phoenix three or clear layup.

[td4mvp2k]

collins you pos :lol

[spurs10]

Getting within striking distance.

[rascal]

Is Collins the weakest starting center in the league?

[spurs10]

Taking care of the ball.

[spurraider21]

zach collins is 17 of 24 on 2pt FGA this season

[freetiago]

Sochan 4 fouls so Poop forced to put in Johnson early and Spurs go on a run

[spurraider21]

its already the second time im saying it this season, but Branham's point of attack defense looks significantly better this year

[Kawhi Duncan]

some of our players seem to have some weird vibes with Wemby... Even on his dunk, none of his teammates on the court reacted

[ace3g]

Spurs can make runs when they don't turnover the ball.

3 point defense still terrible.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Fuck it, play through KJ constantly.


We actually have to be running a real offense first

I get that, and I agree, but theoretically, where does he want to operate? Where is his best spot on the court?

[spurraider21]

cant double one pass away from a 3 point shooter. this is high school level mistakes

[ace3g]

7 point swing...

[InRareForm]

Branham sucks

[BatManu20]

Branham building a castle with all these bricks.

[Tyronn Lue]

Salary vs salary, Spurs are probably over producing vs their rivals thus far.

[spursparker9]

Branham is a floater and mid-range guy. His 3 points stroke arc is too flat tbh.

[Degoat]

Branham makes me miss Lonnie…. Mills…. Even Forbes….

[Kawhi Duncan]

7 shot attempts for Wemby is insane

[SpursFan86]

Just brutal. Suns shooting lights out from 3 but I don’t even think it’s flukey - we’re just constantly giving up open looks every possession to a team filled with shooters. What do we expect to happen?

[Rito3d30]

Cedi have heart

[spursparker9]

:lol Eubanks

[ace3g]

2:41
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Tre Jones makes 4-foot two point shot (Charles Bassey assists)
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Cedi Osman makes driving layup
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more droughts

[spurs1990]

They’ve got the Japanese Shohei Otani making Branham look like a d league guy

[BatManu20]

7 shot attempts for Wemby is insane

Disgusting tbh.

[Chinook]

its already the second time im saying it this season, but Branham's point of attack defense looks significantly better this year

Yep. He's legit looking like the perimeter defender on the team.

[spurraider21]

no, no... we dont need to add guard talent because we have Branham and Wesley and its impossible to develop more players than we already have

[DAF86]

Wemby played, what, 4, 5 minutes on that quarter? For real, what's Pop's plan?

[SpursFan86]

Final possession inbounds pass to Bassey :lmao

[spurraider21]

eubanks > collins takes making a comeback :lol

[Chinook]

Wemby's 13 possessions are more than anyone besides Keldon. Seriously, people need to figure out what they're looking at.

[onechance87]

branham go back to the bench and stay there

[SpursFan86]

Wemby played, what, 4, 5 minutes on that quarter? For real, what's Pop's plan?

Tbf he’s played 20 minutes so far…if he plays 8-10 minutes in the 4th that’ll put him at 28-30 minutes which is reasonable IMO

[spurraider21]

Yep. He's legit looking like the perimeter defender on the team.
yeah but if his offense is going to be limited to nothing but pullup midrange jumpers, im not sure he's playable

[LeBowen]

Wemby played, what, 4, 5 minutes on that quarter? For real, what's Pop's plan?

The plan is to make Wemby get over himself.

Idk, the start of the season has been a really rough watch. Everyone except Wemby was on the team already and the look like they never met before on a lot of plays.
Cedi who was supposed to be salary filler looks better than everyone except Devin.

[spurraider21]

Wemby played, what, 4, 5 minutes on that quarter? For real, what's Pop's plan?
to play him for the first 4 minutes of the 4th, and check in again with 2 minutes left

are we even sure his foul trouble against dallas impacted his minutes at all, tbh? :lol

[onechance87]

no, no... we dont need to add guard talent because we have Branham and Wesley and its impossible to develop more players than we already have

these guys have no basketball iq

[ace3g]

We make a stop but can't advanced the ball down court... careless turnover.

[Seventyniner]

That's the kind of three I like from Wemby.

[CGD]

I have not seen evidence yet that Vassell has improved his playmaking.

[ace3g]

Spurs need to have a film session on their own player tendencies.

[TekXX]

7'5 and only wants to shot 3's

[Barfunk]

Just too sweeeet by Wemby

[freetiago]

Mr 4th quarter finally getting some action

[Seventyniner]

Well now we get a Wemby-as-the-sole-big lineup. Jones/Vassell/Osman/McD/Wemby.

[Robz4000]

Wemby time

[BatManu20]

Spurs playin something resembling basketball!

[itzsoweezee]

Wemby makes good things happen

[MultiTroll]

Been waiting 4 games for a teamate to make a cut like that when Wemby is spotting up for a three.

Wama is excellent passer. Needs higher IQ teamates. He'll do that all the time if they run the right routes and get open.

[DAF86]

Wemby playing as the center, setting screens, being closer to the basket and dominating. Who would have thought it? :wow :rolleyes

[itzsoweezee]

7'5 and only wants to shot 3's

Damn you look stupid

[SpursFan86]

At least making this look respectable. Suns lead will likely balloon back up when KD comes back into the game but nice to see some positive plays.

[spurraider21]

Wemby at the 5...

its not like the suns are going to run their offense through Nurk in the post :lol

[ace3g]

I'm so nervous after any defensive stop by the Spurs because their careless passing angles are cringe worthy so far this season, especially in transition.

[Leetonidas]

Start this man at C and stop fucking around already

[Spurs9]

I freaking love Osman, so happy we picked him up. He does everything.

[8FOR!3]

The halftime advice from Pop was spot on. Just try to be mentally tough and keep playing and don't let little things get to you. We're playing a lot better bc we're not pressing and overthinking/trying to do too much.

[SpursFan86]

I freaking love Osman, so happy we picked him up. He does everything.

Best of all, got paid a 2nd rounder to take him.

[ace3g]

8:34 - 4th



TNT
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SA
18
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PHX
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[spurraider21]

That's the kind of three I like from Wemby.
the one that goes in? that was qualitatively not much different from the other ones

[kxs783kms]

Wemby playing as the center, setting screens, being closer to the basket and dominating. Who would have thought it? :wow :rolleyes

This can work against this team and similar. But teams like Denver and Philly, you can't have him playing the 5. He'll get dominated by Jokić and Embiid.

[CGD]

Well now we get a Wemby-as-the-sole-big lineup. Jones/Vassell/Osman/McD/Wemby.

Only line up that declogs the floor