Game Thread: Kings at Spurs November 17th, 2023 | 6:30 PM CT

[jeebus]

Pop such a dumbass. Mamu plays a big part in the comeback and then doesn't see the floor for the rest of the game.

Victor has some nice buckets but overall he's played like shit. Spurs have been worse with him in the game tonight

:pop: I saw he was having too much fun and had too much confidence. He needs to get over himself :pop:

[John B]

Man when Spurs on the drought, they don’t have a go-to scorer

[scott]

Spurs need a Deaaron Fox in place of a Jeremy Sochan.

[Barfunk]

Godamn what a horrific miss by Sochan

[timtonymanu]

Welp the team competed at least without Devin and Tre.

[heyheymymy]

Yet again would be a close game but the Sanonis FT buffer completely killed the competitive nature of this game

Man fuck NBA man Spurs under staffed against a good SAC team but the league needs SAC narrative so they totally ruin the game to hand it to SAC

[$pursDynasty]

Impossible for Spurs to win a tight game against a team with an all NBA finisher because we don't have one. Will Pop bring in a vet or just let the pups grow together.

[MultiTroll]

Dude I like Sabonis but that was some soft baby shit late in the 4th with a total ref bailout
Fox too

[TheBallsbreakers]

Sochan looks like he's just out there for comic relief.

[Leetonidas]

Yeah I mean I guess we lost by single digits. Morale victory

[RC_Drunkford]

7 in a row baby, keep pounding that rock!!!

[LeBowen]

Single digit losses are like wins these days, tbh.

[timtonymanu]

We play the Grizzlies next. The other worst team in the West. Gonna be a dogfight.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Spurs need a Deaaron Fox in place of a Jeremy Sochan.
D'aaron Foxes don't grow on trees.

[heyheymymy]

Kind of a kick in the nuts as underdogs who worked hard to claw back against a very good Kings team just to see the league tip the scales in SACs favor

Some bullshit calls down the 4th

[SpurPadre]

I have to watch it on DVR but as a Spurs fan who just doesn’t watch much NBA like I used to, can anyone explain why the Kings made a shot when the game was already over instead of holding on to the ball to let the clock run out? Gamecast shows them hitting a shot to end the game.

[Arcadian]

Why is Collins the last line of defense at the basket? That should probably be the taller, better defender

[CorrectCrusader]

Why is Wemby a garbage three point shooter all of a sudden? He was confident the first few games and hitting them pretty regularly

He's a rookie lmao

[heyheymymy]

Hats off to Fox who looked unconscious tonight wow great performance must admit

[SAGirl]

That was a loss but overall a good fun game. Much better coached, ran an Nba offense and what do you know Wemby has great numbers again.

[Spurs Homer]

Overall, the spurs played hard…it has to be demoralizing but they have to review the tape and see the good lobs, the effort from mamu, the good start by champagnie, collins putting a good game together- finally…

and most of all- this sac team is going to be one of the top teams - right next to denver imo


there are some good things to take

[RC_Drunkford]

I have to watch it on DVR but as a Spurs fan who just doesn’t watch much NBA like I used to, can anyone explain why the Kings made a shot when the game was already over instead of holding on to the ball to let the clock run out? Gamecast shows them hitting a shot to end the game.

cause Wemby made a shot prior to that when he could've just let the clock run out

[NASpurs]

Hats off to Fox who looked unconscious tonight wow great performance must admit

There always one on the opposing team against the Spurs tbh.

[poopbox]

Pop really didn't play Mamu after we came back :lol

[SPURt]

I hope it’s not gonna be like this until Wemby finds his Pippen. Those late George Gervin Bulls teams were ass :lol

[SpurPadre]

cause Wemby made a shot prior to that when he could've just let the clock run out

It’s one thing for a losing team to do that but for a winning team, it’s a bitch move unless this in season tourney counts points in a tie breaker?

[$pursDynasty]

I must admit though this game was another, "gonna get league pass to watch the team grow up" game Whereas last game was a, "bullet dodged aren't you lucky you haven't gotten league pass to watch this crap?" game.

[baseline bum]

Why is Wemby a garbage three point shooter all of a sudden? He was confident the first few games and hitting them pretty regularly

He takes a lot of really bad threes. I still think it's going to be a valuable weapon for him long term, he just has retarded shot selection right now. I am a little surprised it has gone the other way though considering his footwork on his three point shot looks a lot better than it did in France or even the preseason. If it makes you feel any better though Durant was a 29% three point shooter his rookie year.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duranke01.html

[SPURt]

Pop really didn't play Mamu after we came back :lol
Mamu was earning more mins tonight

[Devi8or]

I have to watch it on DVR but as a Spurs fan who just doesn’t watch much NBA like I used to, can anyone explain why the Kings made a shot when the game was already over instead of holding on to the ball to let the clock run out? Gamecast shows them hitting a shot to end the game.



Pretty sure the in season tournament has a point differential portion in the standings, so it just makes theirs better

[TimmyBuckets]

This is the energy we need to bring every night.

[rankingtear]

I have to watch it on DVR but as a Spurs fan who just doesn’t watch much NBA like I used to, can anyone explain why the Kings made a shot when the game was already over instead of holding on to the ball to let the clock run out? Gamecast shows them hitting a shot to end the game.

In season tourney game.

[SpurPadre]

Pretty sure the in season tournament has a point differential portion in the standings, so it just makes theirs better

Ah, I see. Thanks. Man, this game has passed me by. Just not a fan of today’s game and play-in shit. Still going to watch my Spurs as much as I can but yeah, I missed how the game was even 7 years ago.

[ace3g]

Every game is its own thing and Mamu was moving the needle tonight. He needed to play in the 4th quarter.

[SpurPadre]

In season tourney game.

Thanks!

[twincam]

Who actually thought this would be a better season? Come on guys, this “team” is not going to make it happen.

[Obstructed_View]

This was a much better effort for the entire team tonight. Lazy passes? Yep. Bad shot selection? Also yes. But they didn't quit and the team defense was a lot better. This was a competitive effort against a superior team.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Wemby can help alot by chilling out with the bad threes.

[Leetonidas]

Vic was a -31 in a 9 point loss :lol geez

[Obstructed_View]

Wemby can help alot by chilling out with the bad threes.
He takes bad shots and has two or three lazy passes per game. His basketball IQ says he will figure this stuff out.

[Obstructed_View]

Vic was a -31 in a 9 point loss :lol geez
If only Matt Bonner were here instead of Victor.

[thiste]

His shooting confidence is down the gutter right now. That'll pick up with time.

[Davidicus]

The GOOD
- Zach carried the team on his back tonight. Yes the stats are great 28/8/5, but what stood out to me was his 100% LEADERSHIP. He was directing on offense and defense, setting screens, and making smart decisions. His stats were a direct consequence of his leadership.
- It’s official: Free Mamu! Wow it was exciting watching him play. He’s oozing with basketball IQ, awareness, and has a unique combo of agility and strength that is fantastic to watch on defense. He’s not a glue guy, he’s a super glue guy.
- Victor’s stat line was interesting: 27pts on 12/26, 9reb, 0ast, 4TO, -31+/-. I honestly don’t care about any of those numbers, good or bad. He is learning what’s working and what’s not, and that’s all the matters. For his mistakes his head was in the right spot. Reminding myself this 19yo has played his 11th NBA game of his life and he’s still doin this.
- Jeremy looked more comfortable out there with 6ast. Good D on Fox who was murdering everybody.
- Keldon had a terrible stretch of TOs, but other than that he did a great job raining 3s in clutch situations. Better decision making and looks more patient. Defense was not atrocious.
- Cedi seems determined to get out of his funk by doing more than shooting 3s. Good on him, he had a nice night.
- Doug with 3ast and 0 TOs?! It’s a Christmas miracle!

The BAD
- Champagnie was just a flat out liability on both ends. Made some decent plays but I put it on Pop for playing him 25min.
- Stat line for Branham looks nice, but his defense was the consistent weak point for us. Was tough to watch.

The UGLY
- No ugliness!

OVERALL the best loss of the season, which is sad to say, but that’s where we’re at these days. Our young guys are showing improvement, individually and collectively. And without Vassell and Tre on the floor! I think with all the Wemby hype and therefore expectations, patience from us fans quietly snuck out the back door the last few months. We’ve made a lot of good progress in only 11 games. Here’s to Jones + Vassell’s health and Mamu minutes! :bobo

[TekXX]

Does Wemby have a bad touch around the basket not involving dunks? Jokic he is not

[slick'81]

Wemby doing everything per usual. What a stud

[baseline bum]

Ah, I see. Thanks. Man, this game has passed me by. Just not a fan of today’s game and play-in shit. Still going to watch my Spurs as much as I can but yeah, I missed how the game was even 7 years ago.

IDK I gotta admit the play-in has made early season more interesting where teams so often didn't give a shit in November in year's past. Amazing how much that dinky $500,000 prize is such a carrot in front of the players as opposed to trying to earn a contract for $40 million a year as a middling player like VanVleet did this summer. That contract would give me so much hope to just bust my ass like a madman to earn that kind of money if I was an NBA player of better than scrub talent.

[baseline bum]

If only Matt Bonner were here instead of Victor.

:rollin

[scott]

I have to watch it on DVR but as a Spurs fan who just doesn’t watch much NBA like I used to, can anyone explain why the Kings made a shot when the game was already over instead of holding on to the ball to let the clock run out? Gamecast shows them hitting a shot to end the game.

It could be because of the In-season tournament format, where point differential is one of the tie-breakers in the group stage.

[Doe]

Well at least they didn’t get prison fucked tonight. Step in the right direction.

[mudyez]

Really curious, if Wemby will sit out the b2b game.

[Barfunk]

If only Matt Bonner were here instead of Victor.

The ±/- KANG!

[poopbox]

Spurs talk went from threads about championship runs to threads about "at least its not an embarrassing loss" :lol:depressed:cry

[heyheymymy]

Really nice pick up by SAC with Monk and I like the Huerter acquisition too

Monk was on fire tonight and sustained the Kings.

Spurs are lucky Lyles was out tonight though lol /s no actually Lyles been pretty good for them too within reason

Kings are kinda fun to watch and bout time they get something going in Sacramento. Good group and I wish them the best.

[Jordan Jackson]

Wemby is rushing his shot. If he would just pause for a moment and set himself he would be fine. No one is going to block his shot - so there is no need to quick shoot the way he does.

Champagnie is not an NBA rotation player. Candidate for the “Bryn Forbes” award.

Anyway, at least they competed.

[John B]

Really nice pick up by SAC with Monk and I like the Huerter acquisition too

Monk was on fire tonight and sustained the Kings.

Spurs are lucky Lyles was out tonight though lol /s no actually Lyles been pretty good for them too within reason

Kings are kinda fun to watch and bout time they get something going in Sacramento. Good group and I wish them the best.

Still I would’ve built on Fox and Halliburton. Sabonis could be an AS but I would argue that he’s a player that could be easily replaced by a player like a Zach Collins, but Halliburton is special. I’m sure it hurts Kings fans to see Halliburton beasting it in Indiana and still has years ahead of him.

[Obstructed_View]

Spurs talk went from threads about championship runs to threads about "at least its not an embarrassing loss" :lol:depressed:cry
Really. I must have missed all these supposed championship run threads. I still think the Spurs can compete for a playoff spot if they start playing smarter and more consistently.

[tim_duncan_fan]

He takes bad shots and has two or three lazy passes per game. His basketball IQ says he will figure this stuff out.

I'm not super-worried about it, but like, somebody just bring it to his attention.


It was interesting to see Pop coaching him up a little bit, audibly on TV. He definitely needs to lean into the coaching and get a head-start on learning the post stuff.

He can't wait until he's filled out to start learning to play down low. That will help him be more efficient and keep him from being empty-stat.

[Obstructed_View]

Wemby is rushing his shot. If he would just pause for a moment and set himself he would be fine. No one is going to block his shot - so there is no need to quick shoot the way he does.

Champagnie is not an NBA rotation player. Candidate for the “Bryn Forbes” award.

Anyway, at least they competed.
You can definitely see the difference in his jumper when he rushes it.

Gotta say, of all the possible criticisms of our young superstar, it's great that being lazy or not caring aren't anywhere to be seen.

[thiste]

Really. I must have missed all these supposed championship run threads. I still think the Spurs can compete for a playoff spot if they start playing smarter and more consistently.

While I believe we can play significantly better than what's produced right now, I still think we're lacking firepower to get to the playoffs.

[Obstructed_View]

I'm not super-worried about it, but like, somebody just bring it to his attention.


It was interesting to see Pop coaching him up a little bit, audibly on TV. He definitely needs to lean into the coaching and get a head-start on learning the post stuff.

He can't wait until he's filled out to start learning to play down low. That will help him be more efficient and keep him from being empty-stat.
I don't know why people assume he will be a post player just because he's tall. And if the refs are going to keep allowing him to get mauled to pieces in the paint then you don't want him there anyway.

[Obstructed_View]

While I believe we can play significantly better than what's produced right now, I still think we're lacking firepower to get to the playoffs.
That's probably true, and certainly reasonable. But, I've yet to see this squad put together a 48 minute game. Who knows how good they can be when they do?

[playbonner15]

Really nice pick up by SAC with Monk and I like the Huerter acquisition too

Monk was on fire tonight and sustained the Kings.

Spurs are lucky Lyles was out tonight though lol /s no actually Lyles been pretty good for them too within reason

Kings are kinda fun to watch and bout time they get something going in Sacramento. Good group and I wish them the best.

Lyles is a Spurs killer so might have been another embarassing loss if he played

[playbonner15]

If only Matt Bonner were here instead of Victor.
+/- :king

[Obstructed_View]

Lyles is a Spurs killer so might have been another embarassing loss if he played

43, 8 and 7 is about as Spurs Killer as you could ask for.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5Tz67Cdnk

[Fireball]

nice to have a competitive game gain ... Wemby still too inefficient but fills the box score

[FoxxHole5]

Ya'll are already tough as is, and this isn't even close to the roster you'll have as soon as next season. The western conference teams better win whatever they can within the next 2-3 seasons because it's hard to believe anyone will be taking Wemby and the spurs out, 4 games out of 7. At least not consistently lol holy shit

[Spurs Homer]

Who actually thought this would be a better season? Come on guys, this “team” is not going to make it happen.

no one knows yet…too early

say, vw stays healthy thruout the season?
you can make a case that there will come a part of the season where things click, spurs go on a legit win streak and suddenly they look scary…

conversely, vw - should he have health issues- it is plausible to see this team just tanking again and looking even worse

too early to conclude anything to be fair

[RC_Drunkford]

no one knows yet…too early

say, vw stays healthy thruout the season?
you can make a case that there will come a part of the season where things click, spurs go on a legit win streak and suddenly they look scary…

conversely, vw - should he have health issues- it is plausible to see this team just tanking again and looking even worse

too early to conclude anything to be fair

I don’t think anybody here thinks this team can go on a win streak

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

I don’t think anybody here thinks this team can go on a win steak

We are winning the next 10

[Spurs Homer]

I don’t think anybody here thinks this team can go on a win steak

because there are scared babies here who already are ungrateful at just how bonkers lucky the franchise just got by getting the absolute best player in the world within the next couple of years…

and are already bitching and moaning and crying and wetting their depends because the spurs arent suddenly the best team in the universe

boo-fucking- hoo

just a couple of months ago all of us here were absolutely sky high at our insane luck in nabbing the unicorn

now

all the panty-wetters are scared and shivering that things are not all neat and wrapped up in a nice championship pre-wrapped bow-tied larry obrien!

bunch of impatient infants

i am loving this season so far

i understand that wemby is greatness personified and if he takes a few lumps on his journey- then the winning and the dominance will be so much sweeter than if it just magically clicked in his first MONTH OF HIS PROFESSIONAL NBA CAREER!

[RC_Drunkford]

your username says it all