How many franchise players are in this year's draft?

[kht]

We can't stop anyone. If you're doing daily fantasy, just pencil in the other team's best player as one of your picks and you're bound to have a good night.

Somehow the lineup of DJ Murray, White, Derozan, LMA, Bryn Forbes, Mills, and Poetl got us into the playoffs once and two play-in tournament berths, but it's apparent we can't stop anyone. Vegas is having a field day with all of us that picked over on 28.5 wins this season.

I'm already looking forward to the 2024-2025 season and next year's draft. If we get lucky to get a top 5 pick, how many franchise altering players are in this class?

I'm thinking we package the Hornet's pick, the Toronto pick, and next year's 1st round draft pick to move into the top 5 this year so we can grab two top 5 talents.

[baseline bum]

We can't stop anyone. If you're doing daily fantasy, just pencil in the other team's best player as one of your picks and you're bound to have a good night.

Somehow the lineup of DJ Murray, White, Derozan, LMA, Bryn Forbes, Mills, and Poetl got us into the playoffs once and two play-in tournament berths, but it's apparent we can't stop anyone. Vegas is having a field day with all of us that picked over on 28.5 wins this season.

I'm already looking forward to the 2024-2025 season and next year's draft. If we get lucky to get a top 5 pick, how many franchise altering players are in this class?

I'm thinking we package the Hornet's pick, the Toronto pick, and next year's 1st round draft pick to move into the top 5 this year so we can grab two top 5 talents.

Really? Having two of the best perimeter defenders in the league helped the Spurs win games?

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[GAustex]

Should have taken the under

[scott]

Is Kevin Tran in this draft? Because that would be at least 1.

[CorrectCrusader]

I want DJ Wagner or Collier

[rascal]

Should have taken the under

Spurs will be winning some games next month when the schedule gets earier.

[rascal]

I want DJ Wagner or Collier

I like Castle. That guy is a beast.

[Number 2]

Lamarcus Aldridge might very well be the most under appreciated spur of all time. He carried a rag tag SA team for multiple years, and yet because everyone was still accustomed to the big 3 era of perennial contention, and the delusion that Popovich was a magician, he was seen as an underachiever.

[ElNono]

Lamarcus Aldridge might very well be the most under appreciated spur of all time. He carried a rag tag SA team for multiple years, and yet because everyone was still accustomed to the big 3 era of perennial contention, and the delusion that Popovich was a magician, he was seen as an underachiever.

He was a giant loser, tbh... such wasted talent too.

[spursparker9]

Lamarcus Aldridge might very well be the most under appreciated spur of all time. He carried a rag tag SA team for multiple years, and yet because everyone was still accustomed to the big 3 era of perennial contention, and the delusion that Popovich was a magician, he was seen as an underachiever.

We wasted LMA's prime tbh. Should have traded him and rebuild earlier.

[offset formation]

I feel sorry for LMA. He rightly assumed we could continue to roll for the end of the Big 3 era and into the tag team era with neph.

neph turned into a biatch and people got injured.

and he 100% carried this franchise for years longer than we deserved, which unfortunately just extended the rebuild as PATFO tried aimlessly to continue winning. I was late to team tank. And that's because I appreciated the effort LMA gave us.

[mo7888]

I like Castle. That guy is a beast.

I've got him very high on my board. Possibly the best PG prospect in this draft....but more importantly, he'd fit like a glove here...

[Russ]

I want DJ Wagner or Collier

I watched Collier live the other night. Nice player but probably not franchise.

[exstatic]

My ridiculously early riser pick is Kentucky’s Rob Dillingham. 6’3” PG, five star recruit, and currently outplaying Wagner, like by a lot. Listed as #22 on the Big Board, and #26 in the Mock at TaT.

[CorrectCrusader]

I watched Collier live the other night. Nice player but probably not franchise.
We have our franchise player already

[buttsR4rebounding]

I like Castle. That guy is a beast.

Right now I'd rank PGs as 1. Castle 2. Topic 3. Collier. I'd love to get any of those plus Sarr in this upcoming draft.

[exstatic]

Castle will be hated by a ton of ST posters, because he’s not fast and flashy. One video watched described him perfectly. He doesn’t get sped up, he just plays at his own pace.

[rascal]

Castle will be hated by a ton of ST posters, because he’s not fast and flashy. One video watched described him perfectly. He doesn’t get sped up, he just plays at his own pace.

He looks fast to me. You also said Sharpe is not any good so not high on what you say about players.

[exstatic]

He looks fast to me. You also said Sharpe is not any good so not high on what you say about players.

Sharpe is fools gold. He’s playing 38 fucking minutes per game, has a USG of 23, and can likely take any shot he wants on a tanking team, and still doesn’t score 20 per game. His WS/48 is .026. :lol

[rascal]

Castle has a good combination of offense and defense and looks to be able to attack the rim with badly needed athleticism.

[rascal]

Sharpe is fools gold. He’s playing 38 fucking minutes per game, has a USG of 23, and can likely take any shot he wants on a tanking team, and still doesn’t score 20 per game. His WS/48 is .026. :lol

Sharpe is good and much better than Sochan.

[exstatic]

Sharpe is good and much better than Sochan.

He’s a fucking show pony. There’s no THERE, there. :lol

[John B]

Castle will be hated by a ton of ST posters, because he’s not fast and flashy. One video watched described him perfectly. He doesn’t get sped up, he just plays at his own pace.

Agree. Doncic is not the fastest out there by a mile. He sets his own pace.

[TD 21]

Presuming you mean perennially MVP or All-NBA caliber, then probably none.

This draft projects as being terrible in terms of elite talent. Of course, you never know. So did '13 and it was mostly true, except for the fact that Antetokounmpo went 15th.


Really? Having two of the best perimeter defenders in the league helped the Spurs win games?

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The Spurs have gotten rid of almost every positive impact player recently and the were all rational decisions, but they've got to start being more analytically inclined going forward.

So many of their recent "busts" or those who look on track to be so, ended up being the exact same players as they were projected to be coming out.

[Dex]

I feel sorry for LMA. He rightly assumed we could continue to roll for the end of the Big 3 era and into the tag team era with neph.

neph turned into a biatch and people got injured.

and he 100% carried this franchise for years longer than we deserved, which unfortunately just extended the rebuild as PATFO tried aimlessly to continue winning. I was late to team tank. And that's because I appreciated the effort LMA gave us.

LMA can blame Kawhi. He got his shots at rings with Timmy, and even once Duncan left the team was a contender until Kawhi and Uncle Dennis blew the entire thing up.

DeMar proved he was not on the same level as a healthy Kawhi, he and Aldridge simply couldn't operate in the same space and the rest is history.

[baseline bum]

I feel sorry for LMA. He rightly assumed we could continue to roll for the end of the Big 3 era and into the tag team era with neph.

neph turned into a biatch and people got injured.

and he 100% carried this franchise for years longer than we deserved, which unfortunately just extended the rebuild as PATFO tried aimlessly to continue winning. I was late to team tank. And that's because I appreciated the effort LMA gave us.

Can't say it was unfortunate considering we got Wemby and by the time Leonard started his faggotry it was too late to tank for Doncic.

[CorrectCrusader]

I like Castle. That guy is a beast.

Just watched him, I really like what I saw. Too bad he's gonna miss a few weeks to injury.

[daslicer]

LMA can blame Kawhi. He got his shots at rings with Timmy, and even once Duncan left the team was a contender until Kawhi and Uncle Dennis blew the entire thing up.

DeMar proved he was not on the same level as a healthy Kawhi, he and Aldridge simply couldn't operate in the same space and the rest is history.

This is a gross exaggeration. Duncan was washed up by the '16 playoff and then retired afterwards so LMA only got 1 year of Duncan and that 1 year was pretty much useless. Now if you want to say LMA choked in '16 you can say that, but Kawhi also choked in that series against the thunder. In year 2 Zaza took out Kawhi so that was the end of any chance the Spurs had to win a title with LMA knowing Kawhi would go awol after that.

[bluebellmaniac]

Did you say slow?

That's the PICK! Count it!

[Dex]

This is a gross exaggeration. Duncan was washed up by the '16 playoff and then retired afterwards so LMA only got 1 year of Duncan and that 1 year was pretty much useless. Now if you want to say LMA choked in '16 you can say that, but Kawhi also choked in that series against the thunder. In year 2 Zaza took out Kawhi so that was the end of any chance the Spurs had to win a title with LMA knowing Kawhi would go awol after that.

You can say Duncan was washed by '16 but that's when LMA came so that point is moot. He still got one good season with Duncan, and the Spurs still won 67 game and swept the first round before falling to the Thunder who, by all rights, should have gone to the Finals that year. That was LMA's first shot.

Spurs followed that up by winning 61 games the next season (without Duncan) and still easily made WCF, and looked to be rolling until the Zaza incident happens. So that's two good shots.

Then Kawhi sits out the next season with "injury", then demands a trade...so yes, LMA had every reason to believe he made the right choice until Kawhi decided to be an absolute bitch. There is no way he could have seen that coming...nobody else did.

He still was a good soldier for a couple more years but it was obvious that the time had passed. I know the Spurs used to win 50-60 games every season with the Big 3, but now we should really appreciate how hard that actually is. The way this season is going, we'll be lucky to break 20.

[daslicer]

You can say Duncan was washed by '16 but that's when LMA came so that point is moot. He still got one good season with Duncan, and the Spurs still won 67 game and swept the first round before falling to the Thunder who, by all rights, should have gone to the Finals that year. That was LMA's first shot.

Spurs followed that up by winning 61 games the next season (without Duncan) and still easily made WCF, and looked to be rolling until the Zaza incident happens. So that's two good shots.

Then Kawhi sits out the next season with "injury", then demands a trade...so yes, LMA had every reason to believe he made the right choice until Kawhi decided to be an absolute bitch. There is no way he could have seen that coming...nobody else did.

He still was a good soldier for a couple more years but it was obvious that the time had passed. I know the Spurs used to win 50-60 games every season with the Big 3, but now we should really appreciate how hard that actually is. The way this season is going, we'll be lucky to break 20.

LMA didn't get a good season of Duncan. Duncan was done after the all-star break during LMA's first season with the Spurs. A good season of Duncan would have been him playing at a high level for the whole entire season and the playoffs. LMA didn't get that.

[Dex]

LMA didn't get a good season of Duncan. Duncan was done after the all-star break during LMA's first season with the Spurs. A good season of Duncan would have been him playing at a high level for the whole entire season and the playoffs. LMA didn't get that.

Well, unless LMA could get in a DeLorean and turn back time, he was never going to get that. He signed when he signed, and IMO any season with Duncan was a good season even if he wasn't in MVP form.

That said, he still got two 60+ win seasons with the Spurs and they came up short in in the playoffs.

Then Kawhi left and that was that, which is the entire point I was making.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Is there a future legendary point guard in this class? We need shooting, a set-up man, iso scoring/athleticism, perimeter D.
Does any one player in this draft look like he has a small chance of one day covering all of that?

We need an alpha dog shooter point guard even more than we needed a big small forward for a few years, and we needed a big small forward badly.

[exstatic]

Is there a future legendary point guard in this class? We need shooting, a set-up man, iso scoring/athleticism, perimeter D.
Does any one player in this draft look like he has a small chance of one day covering all of that?

We need an alpha dog shooter point guard even more than we needed a big small forward for a few years, and we needed a big small forward badly.

Scoring isn’t an issue. We’ve got guys who can put the ball in the hole.

What we need is 5th/6th year Jrue Holiday: a tough hombre point of attack defender at an All D level, a distributor at a good to great level, and a guy who can shoot and score, but doesn’t need to.

[baseline bum]

Scoring isn’t an issue. We’ve got guys who can put the ball in the hole.

What we need is 5th/6th year Jrue Holiday: a tough hombre point of attack defender at an All D level, a distributor at a good to great level, and a guy who can shoot and score, but doesn’t need to.

Spurs are 28th in points per 100 possessions. While also being 29th in points given up per 100 possessions. Spurs are a dumpster fire outside Wemby and Devin.

[scott]

The good news is, the Spurs players suck so bad and their only two good players have enough positional flexibility that the team can truly go BPA and not worry about it.

[SpursBills]

I honestly think that the spurs had a deal lined up with Orlando last year to take Cason Wallace until presti sniped him. Would explain why they panic drafted Jett Howard with dick and Hawkins still on the board. He would have honestly been the perfect fit and would have started his development early in the process.


Scoring isn’t an issue. We’ve got guys who can put the ball in the hole.

What we need is 5th/6th year Jrue Holiday: a tough hombre point of attack defender at an All D level, a distributor at a good to great level, and a guy who can shoot and score, but doesn’t need to.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs are 28th in points per 100 possessions. While also being 29th in points given up per 100 possessions. Spurs are a dumpster fire outside Wemby and Devin.


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:pop: "keep pounding the rock"

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

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:pop: "keep pounding the rock"

Is that graphic from last December?

[scott]

Is that graphic from last December?

Here's an updated one. Look at the improvement! Glad scoring is no longer an issue!

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[scott]

Also, LOL Harden