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Drom John
11-21-2023, 06:30 PM
For combined games in multiple seasons, since 1983-84, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, playing for the San Antonio Spurs, in the regular season or the postseason, team lost game, sorted by descending Game Score.
A version of who plays the best in lost games.

1) 17.2 David Robinson
2) 16.7 DeMar DeRozen
3) 15.4 Tim Duncan
4) 13.2 LaMarcus Aldridge
5) 12.4 George Gervin
6) 12.3 Kawhi Leonard
7) 12.3 Alvin Robertson
8) 12.2 John Lucas
9) 12.2 Artis Gilmore
10) 12.1 Dominique Wilkins

14) 11.1 Victor Wembanyama

25) 9.1 Devonte' Graham

27) 8.9 Zach Collins

37) 8.3 Devin Vassell

41) 8.0 Tre Jones

44) 7.6 Sandro Mamukelashvili
45) 7.5 Jeremy Sochan

54) 6.6 Malaki Branham

66) 5.9 Cedi Osman
67) 5.9 Charles Bassey

81) 5.4 Doug McDermott

118) 4.5 Julian Champagne

201) 2.4 Dominic Barlow

240) 1.6 Blake Wesley

313) -1.0 Sidy Cissoko

GAustex
11-21-2023, 06:49 PM
No Manu?
No Tony?

scott
11-21-2023, 07:36 PM
Very interesting! I love me a good Drom John stat thread!

Pauleta14
11-21-2023, 07:40 PM
It is indeed a stupid stat :lol

One that could make u say anything pro/con

CorrectCrusader
11-21-2023, 07:49 PM
Where's Keldon

Tyronn Lue
11-21-2023, 08:07 PM
Can you filter by first random number of games in the season as a 1st year player? Because Victor hasn't played multiple seasons so I don't see how he made it through that filter.

MultiTroll
11-21-2023, 08:17 PM
For combined games in multiple seasons, since 1983-84, in the NBA/BAA or ABA, playing for the San Antonio Spurs, in the regular season or the postseason, team lost game, sorted by descending Game Score.
A version of who plays the best in lost games.

1) 17.2 David Robinson

17.2 represents what?

paperboy77
11-21-2023, 08:29 PM
No Manu?
No Tony?

Probably means they were super instrumental to the team. If they played poorly, they lost.

Pauleta14
11-21-2023, 08:42 PM
Multitroll...

17.2 games where he was the best scorer and the team lost per season

Ed Helicopter Jones
11-21-2023, 10:33 PM
Multitroll...

17.2 games where he was the best scorer and the team lost per season

Why is Victor’s a decimal point then? Not sure I’m following the stat either. None of the scuba should be on there at all unless that’s last year.

Pauleta14
11-21-2023, 11:25 PM
Good point. I'm confused too now haha

exstatic
11-22-2023, 10:30 AM
Multitroll...

17.2 games where he was the best scorer and the team lost per season

Nope. Game Score is a stat. You’ll have to look it up to see what it means, but it’s not anything to do with number of games, or JUST scoring, but that probably factors in in some way.

JeffDuncan
11-22-2023, 01:12 PM
Good point. I'm confused too now haha


The “Game Score” combines all of the box score numbers, to give a single number. There’s a formula used to combine points, steals, rebounds, etc to produce the Game Score for the player, in that game.

A simple conclusion that might be drawn, is that if a player (David Robinson for example) has high game scores in losses, he needed a better team around him. That by itself is sort of a duh, but the player comparisons over time are interesting. Historically, which players have been the best for the Spurs, in games the team lost despite his good performances?

Data from just this season so far is not enough to give a reliable result, tho.

JeffDuncan
11-22-2023, 01:39 PM
A further note is to emphasize that Drom’s list is from the team losing. There’s an implication of team quality overall.

That is why it has DDR higher than Duncan. There is no implication whatsoever of DDR being better than Duncan. Har har.

It’s that DDR stood out more above his teammates (Forbes, Belineli, etc) than Tim stood out above Tony, Manu, Diaw, etc.

Pauleta14
11-22-2023, 06:21 PM
OK. Thx guys