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TimmyBuckets
11-30-2023, 11:31 PM
Who should replace him and why? We know he's not going to be around forever. Obviously everyone wants him gone now, especially after the cringe mic moment, so for who right now? Or, after his extension is done, who should replace him?

spursparker9
11-30-2023, 11:35 PM
https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MTg5MzA1MDM1OTgzNjkzNzE3/becky.jpg

Should be the guy on the left of Pop. I always see him talking to Pop the most. He should be 2nd in command tbh

ducks
11-30-2023, 11:36 PM
Spurs would be so lucky to get rid of him

Becky Hammons would have a spurs title in 3 years
I guarantee it

TimmyBuckets
11-30-2023, 11:41 PM
Spurs would be so lucky to get rid of him

Becky Hammons would have a spurs title in 3 years
I guarantee it

I'm sold

ducks
11-30-2023, 11:49 PM
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The last time the Spurs fell to 3-15 to start a season was December 8, 1996. The coach was then fired.

By Gregg Popovich.

TimmyBuckets
11-30-2023, 11:56 PM
We saw that. Watching you post is like pulling teeth.

The Truth #6
12-01-2023, 12:31 AM
Well, there's always Hubie Brown.

MultiTroll
12-01-2023, 12:46 AM
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The last time the Spurs fell to 3-15 to start a season was December 8, 1996. The coach was then fired.

By Gregg Popovich.
Surprised to see a local post such.
Will be interesting to see if any of the rest of the SA media post similar and / or comments.

MultiTroll
12-01-2023, 12:54 AM
Can't see Becky leaving the epic gig she has going on over in Vegas.

OTOH to get an NBA job with Wemby, perhaps too good to turn down.

TimmyBuckets
12-01-2023, 01:04 AM
https://www.si.com/.image/t_share/MTg5MzA1MDM1OTgzNjkzNzE3/becky.jpg

Should be the guy on the left of Pop. I always see him talking to Pop the most. He should be 2nd in command tbh

Apparently Mitch Johnson was linked with Hawks this year. He may not be an option by the time Pop's extension is up. If he is, could be a good option though.

tim_duncan_fan
12-01-2023, 01:30 AM
Becky is next up, I suppose.

Barfunk
12-01-2023, 02:16 AM
Manu if he wants the job, then next Becky.

tim_duncan_fan
12-01-2023, 02:21 AM
Has Manu said whether he wants to be a real coach or not?

Been wondering about that.

Barfunk
12-01-2023, 02:23 AM
Has Manu said whether he wants to be a real coach or not?

Been wondering about that.

Honestly not sure, but would love to have him as head coach. Becky is right there as 1b. Would love to have Becky as well. Tough pick for me.

PhantomDashCam
12-01-2023, 04:11 AM
You would think it would have to be Kevin Tran.

Russo21
12-01-2023, 05:04 AM
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The last time the Spurs fell to 3-15 to start a season was December 8, 1996. The coach was then fired.

By Gregg Popovich.

Yep, I was hoping a reporter would bring it up to him in a press conference but they're all to gutless. Or they know he'll give a bullshit sarcastic answer without really answering anything. What goes around comes around. The fool should be fired, he's just stealing something like 16 million per year to be a shithouse coach coaching one of the worst teams in the league. Time for granpa to move on and get a younger coach Wemby can learn and grow with

Alain
12-01-2023, 12:06 PM
Vincent Collet was attending the game last night ...

MultiTroll
12-01-2023, 12:19 PM
Vincent Collet was attending the game last night ...
Who that?

JeffDuncan
12-01-2023, 12:41 PM
Who that?


Victor’s French coach.

Alain
12-01-2023, 01:09 PM
Who that?

The guy who coached a Victor led team of young guns and last tier vets to the French league finals with no true point guard. Also French NT head coach.
But, of course, I don't see him taking the job. He was there to see Victor and he probably talked a bit with Pop as they appreciate each other.

Davidicus
12-01-2023, 01:24 PM
Becky
Manu
in that order

Davidicus
12-01-2023, 01:25 PM
Can't see Becky leaving the epic gig she has going on over in Vegas.

OTOH to get an NBA job with Wemby, perhaps too good to turn down.

Timing could align for Becky’s “next challenge” when Pop is ready. 1st woman NBA HC I’m sure has been on her mind for years.

TekXX
12-01-2023, 01:34 PM
Becky's already won a couple chips in Vegas so she's reached the pinnacle of the WNBA, so she'd jump at the chance to be an NBA head coach.

spurraider21
12-01-2023, 01:49 PM
I’d say Bud

Becky would be a bold hire as well who had been around the nba long enough that I’m not worried about the female aspect of it much

TimmyBuckets
12-01-2023, 01:49 PM
So Becky over Pop?

MultiTroll
12-01-2023, 01:53 PM
So Becky over Pop?
:lol
Mr. Johnson the Jr High custodian and part time boys basketball coach over Pop.

scott
12-01-2023, 02:44 PM
There are a few reasons I could see Becky making the jump. First of all, it’s a jump. No matter how many chips you win in the WNBA, it will never be the same. Second, 1st Female HC is definitely on her brain and she has spoken about it before.

But most importantly, it’s money. She’s making $1mm/year in LV, which is a MASSIVE contract for a coach in that league, but peanuts compared to an NBA Coach Salary.

Offer LV a $5MM buy-out and Beck a $8mm/year deal and she’d be ours.

Pauleta14
12-01-2023, 03:49 PM
Bud and Becky combo

TimmyBuckets
12-01-2023, 03:53 PM
Is anyone on here a Spurs fan?

Alain
12-01-2023, 04:04 PM
Is anyone on here a Spurs fan?

They're hiding because the "get Pop's head" squad is roaming the streets.

jjspur
12-01-2023, 04:25 PM
I’d say Bud

Becky would be a bold hire as well who had been around the nba long enough that I’m not worried about the female aspect of it much

Coach Bud
Kenny Atkinson
Becky

All three would at least try to win rather than keep developing and seeing what shakes out, win or not.

z0sa
12-01-2023, 04:30 PM
It's a great question, OP - and the exact reason I haven't (directly) called for his firing. IE I've said things (in passion, admittedly) that he's lost the thread, etc. But who the hell do we replace him with? I can't think of anyone else, as much as I feel like Pop has done a great job of botching Wemby's first 18 games or whatever it is.

I actually like Doc Rivers. I feel like he's a guy who's very intelligent and would get along with Wemby. He's also won it all before. Whoever it is, resume wise, it will be a step-down from Pop.

It's probably Brett Brown, though. Unless he gets another HC job elsewhere before Pop calls it.

Davidicus
12-01-2023, 04:57 PM
I appreciate Coach Bud's work here in SA, but I'm a please god no on him

Dude shouldve been fired from the Bucks 2 years before it happened. Such blatant mistakes in the playoffs. Even TNT and ESPN were calling out the terrible coaching.

mudd
12-01-2023, 05:56 PM
:lol
Mr. Johnson the Jr High custodian and part time boys basketball coach over Pop.
Any coach would have defended Sohan from the ref that called a charge last night. Just was not right. No fire no nothing. We need a change. The custodian would have gotten in the refs face...

tim_duncan_fan
12-01-2023, 06:27 PM
Becky's already won a couple chips in Vegas so she's reached the pinnacle of the WNBA, so she'd jump at the chance to be an NBA head coach.

Yep. There is already nothing left for her to do in that league. Might as well come on over.

spurraider21
12-01-2023, 06:39 PM
I appreciate Coach Bud's work here in SA, but I'm a please god no on him

Dude shouldve been fired from the Bucks 2 years before it happened. Such blatant mistakes in the playoffs. Even TNT and ESPN were calling out the terrible coaching.
2 years before he was fired, when you say he should have been fired, he was in a championship parade

Ed Helicopter Jones
12-01-2023, 07:42 PM
Please no to Bud.


I'd take Becky. Monty Williams would be ok. Heck, I wouldn't even mind Steve Kerr. He's got Spur roots, let him come home. Brent Barry and Manu?

poopbox
12-01-2023, 07:51 PM
Becky and it shouldn't be anyone else on the list tbh

ducks
12-01-2023, 08:35 PM
Please no to Bud.


I'd take Becky. Monty Williams would be ok. Heck, I wouldn't even mind Steve Kerr. He's got Spur roots, let him come home. Brent Barry and Manu?

Hell no on Monty
Refused to coach Dayton and another player in Phoenix
Either coach them or get the hell out
No respect for monty

KobesAchilles
12-01-2023, 10:15 PM
Someone who can teach the players how to throw a damn post entry pass and lobs.

Aggie Hoopsfan
12-01-2023, 11:15 PM
Even Central Catholics coach would be an improvement over the wino loser in charge.

tmtcsc
12-02-2023, 12:45 AM
Fuck all that nonsense. Mike Budenholzer should be the first call. He has actually won something in his career. After Bud, I'd take James Borrego. Becky is never going to be an NBA head coach. Not happening. Because she's a woman? Yep. I'm not saying its right and she's proven she knows how to win. I just don't think the NBA culture would support it and I don't think an NBA owner has the guts to do it.

Bud's last few games with the Bucks were an aberration in my opinion. Dude was going through some horrible personal shit and probably shouldn't have been coaching.

Tyronn Lue
12-02-2023, 12:58 AM
Can't see Becky leaving the epic gig she has going on over in Vegas.

OTOH to get an NBA job with Wemby, perhaps too good to turn down.
Not sure what the WNBA coaches make, tree fiddy or so, but NBA coaches make bank. Money motivates.

Tyronn Lue
12-02-2023, 12:59 AM
Fuck all that nonsense. Mike Budenholzer should be the first call. He has actually won something in his career. After Bud, I'd take James Borrego. Becky is never going to be an NBA head coach. Not happening. Because she's a woman? Yep. I'm not saying its right and she's proven she knows how to win. I just don't think the NBA culture would support it and I don't think an NBA owner has the guts to do it.

Bud's last few games with the Bucks were an aberration in my opinion. Dude was going through some horrible personal shit and probably shouldn't have been coaching.
Disagree about Becky.

tmtcsc
12-02-2023, 01:00 AM
Even Central Catholics coach would be an improvement over the wino loser in charge.

Hey! Eddie's a good coach.

Tyronn Lue
12-02-2023, 01:01 AM
Hell no on Monty
Refused to coach Dayton and another player in Phoenix
Either coach them or get the hell out
No respect for monty
Who is Dayton? Do you mean Deandre Ayton?

tmtcsc
12-02-2023, 01:02 AM
Disagree about Becky.

You think she's got a chance to be a head coach in the NBA?

Tyronn Lue
12-02-2023, 01:02 AM
2 years before he was fired, when you say he should have been fired, he was in a championship parade
They knew where he was, could have fired him easily.

Tyronn Lue
12-02-2023, 01:07 AM
You think she's got a chance to be a head coach in the NBA?
Based on the social awareness in business, yes. She'd be a fine HC. Someone will give her shot. What better way to get back in the good graces of sports media than to hire the 1st female NBA HC?

tmtcsc
12-02-2023, 01:12 AM
Based on the social awareness in business, yes. She'd be a fine HC. Someone will give her shot. What better way to get back in the good graces of sports media than to hire the 1st female NBA HC?

Maybe you're right. We'll see. Her stock has never been higher.

Aggie Hoopsfan
12-02-2023, 01:44 AM
Hey! Eddie's a good coach.


I don't disagree. Just saying even a local private school high school coach would have this team playing better than Popabitch.

spurraider21
12-02-2023, 01:46 AM
Someone who can teach the players how to throw a damn post entry pass and lobs.
Andre Miller as an assistant coach. Best lob passer of his generation. Tbh he should tutor Sochan. Was also a bigger, slower pg who used a back to the basket game

gambit1990
12-02-2023, 03:54 AM
https://cdn.nba.com/teams/uploads/sites/1610612759/2022/05/2021_Barry_Brent.jpg

buttsR4rebounding
12-02-2023, 04:36 AM
Not sure what the WNBA coaches make, tree fiddy or so, but NBA coaches make bank. Money motivates.

Becky makes $1 million/year. She’d get at least 6 times that as an NBA coach.

RC_Drunkford
12-02-2023, 08:21 AM
get Steve Kerr tbh

rjv
12-02-2023, 10:14 AM
Even Central Catholics coach would be an improvement over the wino loser in charge.

he’d probably be the first one to say that’s an idiotic statement

mudd
12-02-2023, 10:49 AM
Lets see the city wants to build the spurs a new arena where ?

sfernald
12-03-2023, 11:38 AM
When GrandPop retires, you can be sure that old man Brent Brown will take over!

exstatic
12-03-2023, 01:11 PM
I appreciate Coach Bud's work here in SA, but I'm a please god no on him

Dude shouldve been fired from the Bucks 2 years before it happened. Such blatant mistakes in the playoffs. Even TNT and ESPN were calling out the terrible coaching.

Two years before they fired him, he coached them to a title, so, probably not the time to fire him. Those mistakes were made after he returned from the funeral in his family for a death that happened during the playoffs. I don’t blame him one bit for sitting out and collecting every bit of cash from them. They did him dirty.

Obstructed_View
12-03-2023, 01:26 PM
Becky makes $1 million/year. She’d get at least 6 times that as an NBA coach.

And it's all NBA money.

dbestpro
12-03-2023, 07:19 PM
Someone who can teach the players how to throw a damn post entry pass and lobs.

Avery Johnson. His scowls would be fun to watch.

dbestpro
12-03-2023, 08:12 PM
Someone who can teach the players how to throw a damn post entry pass and lobs.

Avery Johnson. His scowls would be fun to watch.

TrainOfThought5
12-04-2023, 12:56 AM
get Steve Kerr tbh

why would Steve Kerr leave his legend status with Golden State to start over in SA?

Brazil
12-04-2023, 09:11 AM
Has Manu said whether he wants to be a real coach or not?

Been wondering about that.

Manu said (see his interview with TP) that for now he wants to enjoy family and kids and coaching is not compatible. He is not saying he won't but not untill kids will go to college

lefty
12-04-2023, 09:44 AM
Kerr is ass, some of his lineups have been terrible this year
And he keeps starting Klay over better performing players :lol

slick'81
12-04-2023, 11:54 AM
Is pop ever retiring :lol

exstatic
12-04-2023, 04:54 PM
Is pop ever retiring :lol

He will not be Spurs coach 5 years from right now, but I wouldn't count on him leaving before this 5 year deal is up.

ducks
12-05-2023, 12:04 AM
He will not be Spurs coach 5 years from right now, but I wouldn't count on him leaving before this 5 year deal is up.

He will be worse if Trump wins his third term as president

spursparker9
12-05-2023, 12:27 AM
https://cdn.nba.com/teams/uploads/sites/1610612759/2022/05/2021_Barry_Brent.jpg

He need to get over Tony first

vander
12-05-2023, 04:26 AM
no one here wants Spoelstra? IMO he's the best coach in the league, takes a trash roster to the playoffs every year.

lefty
12-05-2023, 09:54 AM
no one here wants Spoelstra? IMO he's the best coach in the league, takes a trash roster to the playoffs every year.
Of course we do but he is not leaving Miami to come here imo

lefty
12-05-2023, 09:57 AM
https://cdn.nba.com/teams/uploads/sites/1610612759/2022/05/2021_Barry_Brent.jpg
https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2016-08/18/6/asset/buzzfeed-prod-fastlane02/anigif_sub-buzz-11849-1471516372-2.gif

exstatic
12-05-2023, 10:59 AM
no one here wants Spoelstra? IMO he's the best coach in the league, takes a trash roster to the playoffs every year.

He's not going anywhere. He's in a great situation, with the complete backing of his organization. That's the coaching equivalent of Nirvana. Besides, most top coaches will not want to be 'the guy that replaced Popovich'.

MultiTroll
12-05-2023, 12:13 PM
Predict in 100% Pop fashion, he will dictate who replaces him.
Said person will not be what is best for the Spurs, and very possibly continued similar suckage level as himself.
The selection will be all about him.

Now can plenty change between now and 4.5 years from now?
Lets hope so.

Ed Helicopter Jones
12-05-2023, 12:45 PM
https://cdn.nba.com/teams/uploads/sites/1610612759/2022/05/2021_Barry_Brent.jpg

He's got a great feel for the game. I always felt he'd be a great coach. But these days you also have to have the player buy-in. Not sure how he good with these young guys, if he'd win them over. Maybe being a slam dunk champ gives him street cred!

TimmyBuckets
12-05-2023, 02:33 PM
Predict in 100% Pop fashion, he will dictate who replaces him.
Said person will not be what is best for the Spurs, and very possibly continued similar suckage level as himself.
The selection will be all about him.

Now can plenty change between now and 4.5 years from now?
Lets hope so.

By similar suckage do you mean he's going to have the most wins of all time, 5 rings, or most consecutive playoff appearences? Pop should've taken that mic and roasted you dweebs even more.

gambit1990
12-06-2023, 01:58 AM
He's got a great feel for the game. I always felt he'd be a great coach.
:tu

brent barry has been VP of spurs basketball operations for years now.

slick'81
12-06-2023, 09:13 AM
:tu

brent barry has been VP of spurs basketball operations for years now.


shit,had no idea

MultiTroll
12-06-2023, 10:59 AM
By similar suckage do you mean he's going to have the most wins of all time, 5 rings, or most consecutive playoff appearences? Pop should've taken that mic and roasted you dweebs even more.
0/10

Duncan retired 8 years ago.

exstatic
12-06-2023, 11:14 AM
0/10

Duncan retired 8 years ago.

0/10 A coach needs great players but some have them and don't win. You still need to coach.

MultiTroll
12-06-2023, 11:22 AM
0/10 A coach needs great players but some have them and don't win. You still need to coach.
Agree.
LIke about 5 of Duncans years he wasted a title shot.
10/10

He sure is coaching up Wemby. :lmao

exstatic
12-06-2023, 11:54 AM
Agree.
LIke about 5 of Duncans years he wasted a title shot.
10/10

He sure is coaching up Wemby. :lmao

We’ll just call this the year of Topić.

Obstructed_View
12-06-2023, 12:14 PM
0/10 A coach needs great players but some have them and don't win. You still need to coach.
Agree. Basketball is the least reliant on coaching for success but there are lots of great players who couldn't overcome bad coaching.

rjv
12-06-2023, 12:18 PM
let's nominate one of our many ST experts so we can finally go undefeated and win a title every year

exstatic
12-06-2023, 12:25 PM
Agree. Basketball is the least reliant on coaching for success but there are lots of great players who couldn't overcome bad coaching.

I actually think baseball managers may have overtaken NBA coaches for uselessness, because everything is now analytics, but it's probably close.

Obstructed_View
12-06-2023, 01:00 PM
I actually think baseball managers may have overtaken NBA coaches for uselessness, because everything is now analytics, but it's probably close.
It's closer because of that, but I'm of the opinion that all sports are a distant second to basketball. Finals MVP is almost always a superstar. I can think of like three in my lifetime that weren't.

spurraider21
12-06-2023, 01:07 PM
He will not be Spurs coach 5 years from right now, but I wouldn't count on him leaving before this 5 year deal is up.
To be fair he’s not coaching right now either

exstatic
12-06-2023, 01:21 PM
It's closer because of that, but I'm of the opinion that all sports are a distant second to basketball. Finals MVP is almost always a superstar. I can think of like three in my lifetime that weren't.

I've got Cornbread Maxwell, and Iggy. Who else?

benefactor
12-06-2023, 01:37 PM
It's closer because of that, but I'm of the opinion that all sports are a distant second to basketball.
:lol

MultiTroll
12-06-2023, 01:51 PM
We’ll just call this the year of Topić.
Could it be the year of Tupac?

The same year the Tupac murderer was located the next coach to lead the Spurs to a Championship will be located?

Obstructed_View
12-06-2023, 04:04 PM
I've got Cornbread Maxwell, and Iggy. Who else?
Not a lot. Dumars and Parker are still all-star guys. Even Iggy is better than you think if you look at his résumé.

exstatic
12-06-2023, 04:45 PM
Not a lot. Dumars and Parker are still all-star guys. Even Iggy is better than you think if you look at his résumé.

He was a good player, and I think he made one ASG in Philly. He was like the ultimate connector.

Joseph Kony
12-06-2023, 04:56 PM
To be fair he’s not coaching right now either
https://i.ibb.co/wr3wC2Q/black-kid-laughing.gif

RC_Drunkford
12-06-2023, 05:15 PM
why would Steve Kerr leave his legend status with Golden State to start over in SA?

cause the Dubs are trash and Steph is 35. Won't take long til he retires

spurraider21
12-06-2023, 05:47 PM
Spo isn’t leaving Miami. Don’t see Kerr leaving GSW

vander
12-06-2023, 10:15 PM
He's not going anywhere. He's in a great situation, with the complete backing of his organization. That's the coaching equivalent of Nirvana. Besides, most top coaches will not want to be 'the guy that replaced Popovich'.


Of course we do but he is not leaving Miami to come here imo


Spo isn’t leaving Miami.

Jimmy Butler is 34 and Miami FO hasn't done a great a job giving Spo talent to work with. how could he not be thinking about coaching a "generational talent"?
He wouldn't be replacing Pop, Pop lost it a long time ago. Spo would be entering a situation with Wemby where he could become one of the all time great coaches.
and if he wants, he could ride that success until he's 70+ years old and senile.

Mugen
12-06-2023, 10:16 PM
Literally anybody tbh. Please let this fucker not last past this season :lol

Gibbz
12-06-2023, 10:17 PM
What Pop's doing right now is disgusting--just have to hope it doesn't sour Vic.

Barfunk
12-06-2023, 11:45 PM
Somebody mentioned Spoelstra. Yeah, him right now >>>>> Pop. He'd have this team in the playoffs probably.

timtonymanu
12-07-2023, 12:11 AM
Somebody mentioned Spoelstra. Yeah, him right now >>>>> Pop. He'd have this team in the playoffs probably.

Spo has been better than pop for years already.

NASpurs
12-07-2023, 12:18 AM
Pop has legend status, he's the Present of the team and is well respected for his accomplishments.

Only death or Pop getting bored of the daily grind can stop him. The Holts aren't going to do shit and Wemby is too young to be vocal.

gambit1990
12-07-2023, 12:40 AM
Spo has been better than pop for years already.

gambit1990
12-07-2023, 12:40 AM
mike d’antoni, lol.

wemby’s highlight reel would go on forever.

Barfunk
12-07-2023, 01:47 AM
Spo has been better than pop for years already.

And troo

Aggie Hoopsfan
12-07-2023, 09:39 AM
There's not a single coach in the NBA today that I wouldn't take over Pop at this point.

He's a clown, a ridiculously high paid one, at that.

gambit1990
12-09-2023, 02:26 PM
mike d’antoni, lol.
the team would at least be fun to watch. and wouldn’t be on this loss streak.

you could hire d’antoni to get the spurs to the playoffs and then hire a real coach after that.

Aggie Hoopsfan
12-09-2023, 03:48 PM
HITA.

koriwhat
12-09-2023, 05:11 PM
Pop fucking sucks these days! Just like in '13 when he pulled Duncan, last night he pulls Wemby when the momentum was shifting in our favor. Fucking lunatic minute managing bullshit!

lefty
12-11-2023, 02:35 PM
mike d’antoni, lol.

wemby’s highlight reel would go on forever.
Shit, I'm down

exstatic
12-11-2023, 05:35 PM
Jimmy Butler is 34 and Miami FO hasn't done a great a job giving Spo talent to work with. how could he not be thinking about coaching a "generational talent"?
He wouldn't be replacing Pop, Pop lost it a long time ago. Spo would be entering a situation with Wemby where he could become one of the all time great coaches.
and if he wants, he could ride that success until he's 70+ years old and senile.

Well, Pop isn't going anywhere until he wants to. Spo has taken two teams to the Finals since the end of the Heatles. As long as Riles is alive, Spo is as secure as Pop. Riles told LeBron to sit the F down when he wanted Spo gone in year 1 of the Heatles.

MultiTroll
12-11-2023, 05:53 PM
I actually think baseball managers may have overtaken NBA coaches for uselessness, because everything is now analytics, but it's probably close.
:lol Yes Dave Roberts and Bruce Bochy have equal effects on their teams.

Kawhi_6rings
12-11-2023, 10:49 PM
Who should replace him and why? We know he's not going to be around forever. Obviously everyone wants him gone now, especially after the cringe mic moment, so for who right now? Or, after his extension is done, who should replace him?
NO ONE CAN FIRE POP IN THE WORLD

BatManu20
12-11-2023, 10:53 PM
Anyone would be better than the old man right now tbh. We’d definitely still suck ass with a different HC due to an extreme lack of talent on this roster, but I feel like a change of leadership, particularly to a younger, more energetic HC, would inject some enthusiasm into our young players tbh.