Will Pop match last years all time 16 straight loss record?

[MultiTroll]

What is the longest losing streak in San Antonio Spurs history?

16 games, set during the 2022-23 season.


Jan 20, 2023 126-131 loss to the Los Angeles Clippers
Ended on Feb 28 with a 102-94 win over the Utah Jazz.

[MultiTroll]

@ Minn L 15
Chicago would be 16


@Houston for the All Time record 17

[SouthernFryd]

POP ain't coaching. He's analyzing talent for next years team.

Basically, it's why the team isn't playing as a team. They're playing like they are trying to impress scouts. Like they are trying to make the team. Which is probably more accurate than not.

So, Pop simply doesn't care about this years record. I would bet he doesn't even know what it is. As long as it gets him into next years lottery...

[ducks]

Pop has scouts for that
His job is to coach or get the hell out

[MultiTroll]

POP ain't coaching. He's analyzing talent for next years team.
Could you give a working example of what, iyo, he is specifically analyzing?

[sananspursfan21]

POP ain't coaching. He's analyzing talent for next years team.

Basically, it's why the team isn't playing as a team. They're playing like they are trying to impress scouts. Like they are trying to make the team. Which is probably more accurate than not.

So, Pop simply doesn't care about this years record. I would bet he doesn't even know what it is. As long as it gets him into next years lottery...

As bad as I wanna tell you to knock it off, you might be onto something

[Silentbob]

They might have a chance against chicago

[SouthernFryd]

Could you give a working example of what, iyo, he is specifically analyzing?

Pretty much what we all are analyzing...

How well does Sochan handle the ball? Maybe not point guard material...but, maybe 2 guard? Does he have it in him to be another Manu? What position could Zach ultimately play if we kept him? Center? PF? Center coming off the bench? What could we do with someone like Bassey? Again, Bench player? PF? Jones worth keeping for secondary guard duties? Vassel worth starting...or giving a spark off the bench? Is Vassel good trade material?

If I was tanking this year to get a lottery pick next year, I would be giving a hard look at questions like that. Pop ain't looking to win as a team...he's looking at individuals to see if they fit into the future. That's why he may not even know what the Spurs record is right now...he doesn't care about that, as long as it gets him into the Lottery. Which sucks for the fans...But, that is what I'm seeing and the only thing that makes sense with what he is doing on court. Imho :)

And Yes, Pop would be fool not to be looking at Point guard in the draft. But, with an eye on defense and court awareness/passing abilities.

Out of all the players right now on the Spurs roster, I think there are only 2 locks. Wemby, of course...but, I think Sochan as well. But, not at point. He's actually increased his desirability with his point guard play. Not because he's a great point guard...he's not. But, those ball handling abilities he's learning will do him well as a 2 guard or Small forward. His defense tho...he can't D worth shit right now. But, D is attitude. Almost anyone can do it, and do it well, with the right attitude. He might just need an attitude adjustment. lol

Personally, I would like to keep Zach and Bassey as well. Vassel would make good trade bait for a more all-around team player who can defend as well as shoot 3's. A Bowen type? Vassel is probably the most marketable player on the team...that might not fit into a Future Spurs team. Great scorer. Doesn't make anyone around him better tho.

All the other players are up for grabs...and I think they know it. Which is why this current bunch looks like a bunch of individual players trying out for a spot on the team. All playing as individuals to prove their worth. The emphasis is not on winning as a team, but on their individual worth to a future team. For us fans...it's the most horrible basketball to watch ever. It sure ain't the Beautiful Game. I have always disliked Pop...but, if he pulls it off, he will be loved again. Just not by me.
Anyway, these are my ramblings. Today, December 2, 2023 :smokin

[Mugen]

Match? They're going to blow that shit outta the water :lol

Like if the Spurs played the Pistons, I have no doubt that Pop would tank that game because he doesn't want his boy Monty losing that much while his own team gets screwed. Any competitive fire the old man had left died when Ginobili retired.

[playbonner15]

They might have a chance against chicago
doubt it but there's hope

[itzsoweezee]

POP ain't coaching. He's analyzing talent for next years team.

Basically, it's why the team isn't playing as a team. They're playing like they are trying to impress scouts. Like they are trying to make the team. Which is probably more accurate than not.

So, Pop simply doesn't care about this years record. I would bet he doesn't even know what it is. As long as it gets him into next years lottery...

This level of cognitive dissonance is simply amazing. He’s “analyzing”. No, he’s just a shitty coach and very impressed with himself. He thinks that because he’s coached these guys, they will magically turn into good players

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This level of cognitive dissonance is simply amazing. He’s “analyzing”. No, he’s just a shitty coach and very impressed with himself. He thinks that because he’s coached these guys, they will magically turn into good players

He thinks because he coached Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker that makes him a good coach.

[John B]

He thinks because he coached Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Manu Ginobili, and Tony Parker that makes him a good coach.

Stockton and Malone, Ewing, Barkeley, Nash. These guys are Hofers and don’t even have a single championship, much less 2, 4 or 5. I think coaching had something to do with it also.

[Obstructed_View]

Stockton and Malone, Ewing, Barkeley, Nash. These guys are Hofers and don’t even have a single championship, much less 2, 4 or 5. I think coaching had something to do with it also.
That makes Pop better than Sloan and Riley. I'm sure Pop thinks that too.

[baseline bum]

Thankfully the Bulls are a real shit show so there is a decent chance it ends at 15. Probably will get another chance or two to break the record anyways this season even if they can squeak that one out over Chicago.

[Silentbob]

Looks bleak with how chicago stomped on the pelicans yesterday. Would be funny though it the spurs break the losing record to the lakers. :spin

[scott]

Looks bleak with how chicago stomped on the pelicans yesterday. Would be funny though it the spurs break the losing record to the lakers. :spin

I'm sure this is a stat that does not matter to Pop or the team, but the Lakers are currently the only team with an all time winning records versus the Spurs, 93-92. This is a unique stat across the major American sports, with only the Yankees being able to make a similar claim, but it comes with a footnote because of interleague play (they have 1 game advantages against a couple of NL teams). Until the last few years, the Spurs were able to claim a winning record against every other franchise in the NBA. We're also down to a 2-game lead against Portland. The next closest team is Phoenix but we have a 14 game lead over them.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Thankfully the Bulls are a real shit show so there is a decent chance it ends at 15. Probably will get another chance or two to break the record anyways this season even if they can squeak that one out over Chicago.

I was going to say that record might fall twice this year.

[SpursWoman]

At the rate they are going, I don't think they will hit 20 wins ... so that record will be broken, probably on their current streak.

Even 10 wins seems out of reach at this point. :lol

[jjspur]

At the start of the season, I would have said the spurs will win anywhere for 28 - 35 ish games. Now I'm not so sure they'll get 20 wins if that many. People talk about giving the players time to develop, and I get that for the rookies, but for the players who have some experience ? What were they doing last year .. or during summer, playing board games or what.

I understand last year's tank to get Wemby and some assets. Great, mission accomplished. To say we are just developing our players again...well that's just a code word for tanking again. Sure if you tank enough, you get nice young talent, but that young talent doesn't always do much. Just ask the Pistons, or the Rockets of the last 3 years.

I think it now falls upon the front office to make some moves to improve the team and like soon. The rockets brought in a few vets and a skilled coach; look where they are in the standings. The pistons brought in a new coach also, but I don't think he is as good as Udoka. Bottom line, I think its time to rethink the go ultra young strategy and trade some of our assets for a veteran or two. It won't make us worse and we have plenty of assets. The "process" doesn't always work and spurs fans are pretty impatient. The start of trade season is coming soon, lets see if we can make a deal to improve the team. It can't hurt that much considering where we are in the standings.

[cd98]

The Spurs are arguably the worst team in the NBA. It's a 3 year process to turn this team around.

[ducks]

He need to get kicked In the balls 16 times and maybe he get back to coaching

[ducks]

Thankfully the Bulls are a real shit show so there is a decent chance it ends at 15. Probably will get another chance or two to break the record anyways this season even if they can squeak that one out over Chicago.

Spurs lost to the hawks
Enough said
Just have to hope to play the suns

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

He need to get kicked In the balls 16 times and maybe he get back to coaching

You strike me as the type of guy that would enjoy getting kicked in the balls.

[ismael-robert]

Spurs lost to the hawks
Enough said
Just have to hope to play the suns

So weird to reference loss to Hawks n not loss to grizzlies

[Splits]

Wednesday, 27 December. Utah at home. We will win.

:flag:

[slick'81]

Man,even the pre robinson teams weren't this bad:smokin

[Budkin]

We’ll beat it by at least 10 games. Calling it now.

[Death In June]

3rd worst point differential in NBA history. This is just not good for any development whatsoever. No experiment is worth that.

[libertarian4321]

doubt it but there's hope

Pop is a basketball genius, haven't you heard?

Pop and the Spurs have got this: Bulls 121 Spurs 97.

Pop gets the new team record against Houston!

[libertarian4321]

Man,even the pre robinson teams weren't this bad:smokin

None of those teams had a "genius" head coach who thought of converting a 6'8" 20-yr old power forward into the starting point guard.

[Silentbob]

they might go winless this december.

[spurs1990]

Bulls next.

I'd fully expect San Antonio to win this game. Based on both desperation, and the Derozan/Levine double dose of empty-stat kingpins

[onechance87]

Bulls next.

I'd fully expect San Antonio to win this game. Based on both desperation, and the Derozan/Levine double dose of empty-stat kingpins

we better fcking win...Shit is pathetic

[RC_Drunkford]

Pop wants all the bad records too now. The more the better :lol

[Silentbob]

we better fcking win...Shit is pathetic

I wouldn't count on it, the bulls just beat the bucks and pelicans and the spurs are currently doing their best TOSB post achilles kobe impersonation.

[Obstructed_View]

Bulls next.

I'd fully expect San Antonio to win this game. Based on both desperation, and the Derozan/Levine double dose of empty-stat kingpins
From the guy who pulled Sochan from the SL and didn't play Bassey a single second against Rudy Gobert. That's faith.

[Obstructed_View]

3rd worst point differential in NBA history. This is just not good for any development whatsoever. No experiment is worth that.
Yeah, Victor got so many quality touches and shot opportunities against Minnesota. Clearly Sochan has been the problem all along. :lol

[Death In June]

Yeah, Victor got so many quality touches and shot opportunities against Minnesota. Clearly Sochan has been the problem all along. :lolI wasn’t implying it’s strictly a Sochan issue. More that Osman is still not a traditional option. Obviously it’s not the only problem with the team but inserting Jones to the starting lineup probably breaks the losing streak.

[Obstructed_View]

I wasn’t implying it’s strictly a Sochan issue. More that Osman is still not a traditional option. Obviously it’s not the only problem with the team but inserting Jones to the starting lineup probably breaks the losing streak.
I guess some people just don't watch the games to see how much Tre Jones sucks.

[onechance87]

I wasn’t implying it’s strictly a Sochan issue. More that Osman is still not a traditional option. Obviously it’s not the only problem with the team but inserting Jones to the starting lineup probably breaks the losing streak.

tre is to small to defend anyone,And cant shoot....Only thing he does is throw a good pass here and there

[Death In June]

I guess some people just don't watch the games to see how much Tre Jones sucks.I know I’m just echoing what other people have already mentioned but it’s also evident in the data. Their offensive efficiency is much better with a Wemby / Jones pairing. A Jones/Sochan/Wemby/Devin/Keldon is your best lineup.

[Obstructed_View]

I know I’m just echoing what other people have already mentioned but it’s also evident in the data. Their offensive efficiency is much better with a Wemby / Jones pairing. A Jones/Sochan/Wemby/Devin/Keldon is your best lineup.
So, even though I didn't know the stat you gave me, it seems to fit perfectly with my opinion that Zach Collins fucking sucks even more than Tre does, far before it suggests that Tre is better than Sochan.

Given that lineup stat, benching Sochan for Osman is a very Popovich move.

[rjv]

the bulls are beatable, especially when they're away from home but the way things have been going it wouldn't shock me if demar and levine went off for 35 each.

[rjv]

i think the notion of looking for a lineup that will work this year is like searching for the lost city of gold. tre is not that great of a PG-he can't shoot and is too short (for an NBA player). there is no real playmaking guard on this team. over time, i think most combinations of lineups would regress to the mean. the fact is that this roster is the byproduct of a massive tank and much of this roster is not very good. we're starting bench players and giving meaningful minutes to 3rd team players,

[Obstructed_View]

i think the notion of looking for a lineup that will work this year is like searching for the lost city of gold. tre is not that great of a PG-he can't shoot and is too short (for an NBA player). there is no real playmaking guard on this team. over time, i think most combinations of lineups would regress to the mean. the fact is that this roster is the byproduct of a massive tank and much of this roster is not very good. we're starting bench players and giving meaningful minutes to 3rd team players,
If the stats say Jones/Sochan/Wemby/Devin/Keldon is the best lineup, I'm not against running it. Frankly, I don't think Tre is a significantly better PG than Sochan, but he is a better dribble penetrator, which helps to break down the defense. Having both of them on the floor can't hurt, especially if it gets Collins off the floor.

[MultiTroll]

tre is not that great of a PG-he can't shoot and is too short (for an NBA player). there is no real playmaking guard on this team.
And yet this summer when the exact subject of pg was being contemplated by the Spurs and written about by the media, Popped stated he had 'a strong desire for Tre to be on the team' -paraphrasing but real close.

Brian Wrong was given his marching orders. Make zero mistake, that was a Dicktater Pop directive.

They had to sign someone as the CBA requires bucks be spent. But how the hell Tre fits into Championship Wemby plans, no. Hell no.

[libertarian4321]

"Genius" coach Popovich leads the Spurs to a record setting 16-straight losses for the second year in a row!

Popovich got this, I'm 100% confident he can lead the team to another loss, and a new record, against Houston.

Let's go Spurs!

[poopbox]

Of course our next game is against the Rockets. They are going to be gunning to set that record tbh :rollin

[baseline bum]

tre is to small to defend anyone,And cant shoot....Only thing he does is throw a good pass here and there

Sochan too minus the good pass here and there tbh

[spurs1990]

Really believed with conviction they were going to win tonight.... trying to find a likely win at if Chicago isn't one, then the Portland series which should halt the streak at 24 or 25.

Memphis at 28 could be another one, but the streak shouldn't go past 30 games once Detroit shows up. Detroit will already own the 28 game losing streak record at that point anyway.

https://i.ibb.co/L8w4pwV/Spurs-streak.jpg

[baseline bum]

Never in my life have I watched a Spurs team and every night thought no way they win this one, and I have been a fan since Johnny Moore nearly died of Desert Fever in 85.

[baseline bum]

Of course our next game is against the Rockets. They are going to be gunning to set that record tbh :rollin

They could be playing Rice and probably still blow a 13 point lead

[TekXX]

Crazy to think this team was .500 at one time, 3-3

[z0sa]

Truly incredible that the year AFTER you tank for the best prospect in 20 years, you match the all-time loss record again.

One more loss, and I'm on the fire Pop bandwagon. Which I truly never thought I would be. Criticize him, sure. But fire him? Never thought I'd get to that point. I am now, though. The players, or the basketball gods, or the wine cellar better bring out a special trick from Popovich on Monday or I'm done ever defending his ass.

[taps]

The Spurs are arguably the worst team in the NBA. It's a 3 year process to turn this team around.
Manu & Tony said that and I agree too.

I think We need another top three pick homegrown. we all see the scheit we have out there. Trade steals and FA chess be darned, it won’t really happen til we have that homegrown core with multiple guys who can take over games, then the other stuff makes a difference. Bottom three of the league this year please and another LOLPortland.

Wouldn’t mind giving B Wesley a look 2nd half of the season. That’ll help get us there and I was too hard on him in SL. O_V was right to back him after that one Wemby SL game he stole the last shot. Fuggit let’s commit. Sir’Jabari too while we’re taking players I like for no reason and can maybe bring the ball up. Both play defense and dribble past the timeline. Branham isn’t an nba player if he can’t hit threes like LJ said. He’s 28%. He brings nothing else to the table. Pop giving him enough rope to hang himself with and give 20th pick the time he needs to play.
Blake Wesley increased garbage time minutes plz.

[libertarian4321]

Congratulations to "genius" coach Pop for leading the team to a new record! This team could keep losing to a 30-game streak. That Jan 10 game against Detroit will be tough. Even "genius" Pop might stumble to a win against those guys.

[playbonner15]

Spurs got a new loss record :lol