Game Thread: Spurs (3-16) at Timberwolves (15-4) December 6, 2023 | 6:30P.M. CT ESPN

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Hope I got the details right. I'm SO ready to talk about Spurs basketball again.

Let's gooooooooo. :cheer

[rjv]

antman II. spurs are bad on the road but not as bad as the rockets. i just hope we show up and compete. but an upset would be even better.

[heyheymymy]

Thanks, O_V

[sickdsm]

Edwards looking like he is probable.

[LeBowen]

Can't wait for another Zach Collins masterclass. :angel

[John B]

Spurs injuries: Dominick Barlow – Out (G League,) Charles Bediako – Out (G League,) Sidy Cissoko – Out (G League,) Zach Collins – Probable (left thumb,) Sir’Jabari Rice – Out (G League,) Devin Vassell – Probably (left knee,) Blake Wesley – Out (G League)

Timberwolves injuries: Jaylen Clark – Out (right achilles,) Anthony Edwards – Questionable (right hip,) Jaden McDaniels – Out (right ankle,) Jordan McLaughlin – Out (right knee,) Leonard Miller – Out (G League)

Tank for Collier! :flag::flag::flag:

[spurs10]

Kind of scary seeing Vassell as probable.

[spurs10]

:flag:

[HankChinaski]

Here's hoping the streak ends

[Obstructed_View]

Kind of scary seeing Vassell as probable.
I don't question picking him over Haliburton, but if durability becomes an issue with him, it will really look like a bigger missed opportunity than it was.

[Spurs Homer]

I don't question picking him over Haliburton, but if durability becomes an issue with him, it will really look like a bigger missed opportunity than it was.

”becomes an issue”


dude is a fucking porcelain china doll

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”becomes an issue”


dude is a fucking porcelain china doll

I understand your position. I'm just not there yet.

[spurraider21]

Sochan benched.

cedi in starting unit instead

[jeebus]

Poop is a senile bucket of horse cum.

[Robz4000]

Sochan benched.

cedi in starting unit instead

:lmao

[timtonymanu]

ROFL old man.

“Sochan, it’s your fault you can’t play PG. down to the bench! Also guys stop booing Kawhi. It’s not what we are.”

[spurraider21]

Pop will start literally anybody at pg except for the actual point guards on the roster

[Robz4000]

Pop will start literally anybody at pg except for the actual point guards on the roster

Beyond comical at this point tbh.

[Mugen]

:lmao

[Mugen]

It's the refusal to play Derrick/Dejounte together fiasco all over again. Man, I can't wait when the old man is finally gone :lol

[r0drig0lac]

Sochan benched.

cedi in starting unit instead

:pop:

[sickdsm]

My God Hubie looks as old and out of it as Pop and Biden.

Is there literally anyone who enjoys ESPN's crew?

[MannyIsGod]

Cedi fucking Osman? Really?

JUST PLAY TRE JONES FOR FUCKS SAKE.

[Leetonidas]

Wtf

[LeBowen]

You need to get over yourselves.

[baseline bum]

Collins ruining a beautiful pass from Victor. Same shit, different day.

[Chinook]

Is Graham a republican or something? Pop really seems to hate him.

[scott]

Putting in Cedi for Sochan seems to at least be an acknowledgement that the SL needs another high volume shooter... but seems like Devonte Graham would have been the right choice here if that's what you wanted.

[baseline bum]

Glad we're getting Kareem Abdul-Collins his shots

[emanueldavidginobili]

My God Hubie looks as old and out of it as Pop and Biden.

Is there literally anyone who enjoys ESPN's crew?
He's literally 90 years old what do you expect lmao. 16 years older than Pop and 9 years older than Biden

[emanueldavidginobili]

Cedi fucking Osman? Really?

JUST PLAY TRE JONES FOR FUCKS SAKE.
Yeah when I initially saw that there was a line up change and Sochan was coming off the bench I thought for sure it would be Tre starting not Cedi Osman lmfao smh

[baseline bum]

Nice work bitching at the ref instead of guarding the three point line Keldon :lol

[LeBowen]

Same shit yet again, corner 3 after corner 3.

[CorrectCrusader]

This team has no idea how to close out

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:lol keldon Johnson is a black hole. Does he ever look to pass?

[sickdsm]

He's literally 90 years old what do you expect lmao. 16 years older than Pop and 9 years older than Biden

Must have gotten the lifetime pass like Pop got. This is a horrible broadcast, I might switch.

[CorrectCrusader]

Actual pointguard comes in... Victor benched

:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun:madrun: madrun

[SpursFan86]

Jones/Keldon/Osman/Sochan/Collins lineup…really? :lmao

[Spurs Homer]

Must have gotten the lifetime pass like Pop got. This is a horrible broadcast, I might switch.

its on ballys channel

im listening to sean and the other spurs dude

[LeBowen]

Pop killed all of my motivation for this game.

Ridiculous lineups.

[Leetonidas]

I guess none of us should be surprised. This is the same coach who wouldn't play DJ or Derrick together. The same coach who started Bryn Forbes for an entire season. The same coach who started Dante Cunningham:lmao jesus the old man needs to go

[Kawhi Duncan]

Sigh... For the love of god... Plz design an offense around Wemby instead of treating him like a roleplayer... And plz start an actual PG with him... Jesus

[CorrectCrusader]

Sigh... For the love of god... Plz design an offense around Wemby instead of treating him like a roleplayer... And plz start an actual PG with him... Jesus

:pop: he needs to get over himself. :pop:

[Thomas82]

Sigh... For the love of god... Plz design an offense around Wemby instead of treating him like a roleplayer... And plz start an actual PG with him... Jesus

Cosign!!

[Devi8or]

Everytime Branham comes in I die a little inside

[z0sa]

Sigh... For the love of god... Plz design an offense around Wemby instead of treating him like a roleplayer... And plz start an actual PG with him... Jesus

[sickdsm]

its on ballys channel

im listening to sean and the other spurs dude

I wanted a better broadcast not worse. Sean is trash.

Watching it on Bally North rn.

[Kawhi Duncan]

I don't care what y'all say... Pop is a horrible coach... Can't always judge someone by their past... Sometimes who they are now is who they are now

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Putting in Cedi for Sochan seems to at least be an acknowledgement that the SL needs another high volume shooter... but seems like Devonte Graham would have been the right choice here if that's what you wanted.

I don't think you can count on him to vacuum up offensive boards every time. And I question waiting until Socham shows signs of playing well to yank him. But this is what you guys wanted.

[onechance87]

pop is a bad coach cause he keeps playing branham....sit him ffs

[emanueldavidginobili]

You know you're terrible at defense when Kyle Anderson blows by you lmao. Branham needs to show some fire and that he gives a fuck.

[Leetonidas]

Really is shameful how Pop has zapped all enthusiasm I've had for what should have been a fun season

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Cosign!!
Just put him where Collins is. I'd be fine if Victor got four catch and shoot three tries per quarter. :lol

[Spurs Homer]

I wanted a better broadcast not worse. Sean is trash.

Watching it on Bally North rn.

oh i get it now

YOU are the problem

[Obstructed_View]

Jones/Keldon/Osman/Sochan/Collins lineup…really? :lmao
Collins for ten minutes vs Towns and Gobert.

[objective]

Even with his 'good' quarter, Collins still showed why he doesn't work : no one respects his spacing

And yes, starting Cedi was buffonery.

Just feels bad with this coaching.

[CorrectCrusader]

How are these announcers so bad? They literally saw him smack his wrist going up

[Leetonidas]

Sochan ignoring Wemby again

[Devi8or]

Sochan has pump faked out of like 3 wide open shots so far

[MultiTroll]

ZaZa Goobert pulling some bullshit.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Wemby playing the worst defense I've seen him play all year

[Obstructed_View]

Sochan has pump faked out of like 3 wide open shots so far

Gee, you mean benching him fucked with his confidence? Imagine that!

BTW, Vassel's defense is literal shit.

[MultiTroll]

Chucky Johnson doing his thing.

[sickdsm]

To be fair Gobert playing his worst d I've seen all year also.

[james evans]

Sochan and Collins don't believe in passing once they get that ball in the paint haha

[tbdog]

Osman plus 10. Pop genius or.....

[timtonymanu]

It's the refusal to play Derrick/Dejounte together fiasco all over again. Man, I can't wait when the old man is finally gone :lol

“Look guys I know we’re 3-16 and at 14 straight losses but stop booing Kawhi. It’s not what we’re about.”

[Obstructed_View]

That 2-for-1 opportunity by Victor was awful. He was open to shoot a three, then burned six seconds and kicked it out to Collins. :bang

[scott]

I don't think you can count on him to vacuum up offensive boards every time. And I question waiting until Socham shows signs of playing well to yank him. But this is what you guys wanted.

I don't think I recall anyone calling for Sochan to be benched for Cedi Osman, or even benched at all. We just wanted him to not play PG. But I do agree that he has been playing better recently (notably, when he has shared the court with Tre) so the timing of this is quite bizarre.

I can see the rationale of replacing Sochan with a high volume 3PT shooter, but it still leaves a gaping hole (and maybe even increases the size of said hole) at primary ball handler, and in theory would weaken our defense (though we only gave up 46 pts in the first half).

At least it's an attempt to make an adjustment, I guess.

[Obstructed_View]

Sochan and Collins don't believe in passing once they get that ball in the paint haha

Collins believes in standing there waiting for the defenders to smother him to death.

[onechance87]

We do good when branham aint in

[z0sa]

Wemby having a sub par game and we're winning at the half. I'll take it, I guess.

[Obstructed_View]

How are these announcers so bad? They literally saw him smack his wrist going up
Hubie Brown is a retard. Mark Jones is a tool.

[timtonymanu]

ROFL we know when the other team stops coasting, it will end ugly fast.

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I don't think I recall anyone calling for Sochan to be benched for Cedi Osman, or even benched at all. We just wanted him to not play PG. But I do agree that he has been playing better recently (notably, when he has shared the court with Tre) so the timing of this is quite bizarre.

I can see the rationale of replacing Sochan with a high volume 3PT shooter, but it still leaves a gaping hole (and maybe even increases the size of said hole) at primary ball handler, and in theory would weaken our defense (though we only gave up 46 pts in the first half).

At least it's an attempt to make an adjustment, I guess.

You guys wanted him replaced. There are no other point guards. Keldon handling the ball is not better than Jeremy. Tre is, by a distance, the best offensive player off the dribble, but he stinks on ice at just about everything else.

But they're winning, so fuck it for now. As long as they have a chance to win I'm pretty happy.

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Wemby having a sub par game and we're winning at the half. I'll take it, I guess.
Man, I'm frustrated watching them not pass the ball to Victor. I can't imagine how he must feel. I'd rather he initiate the offense, and I'm only half kidding.

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First possession, Victor is open with Conley defending him, nobody even looks up.

[onechance87]

we need to get a center and pg

[Robz4000]

:lol that didn't take long

[Joseph Kony]

:lol that didnt take long

[Obstructed_View]

Every other team has a guy go to the front of the rim for a dunk. The Spurs get their shit swatted into the third row while four teammates stand around and fucking watch.

[Robz4000]

Question now is do the Spurs lose by 20 or 30?

[Thomas82]

Just like that, the halftime lead is gone.

[onechance87]

keldon u aint that guy

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

First possession, Victor is open with Conley defending him, nobody even looks up.

Clowns.

Shout out to Collins. He's gotta miss more bunnies than any other big in the league. No wonder Portland didnt match.

[z0sa]

Just like clockwork.

[ducks]

What the hell did pop tell them at halftime
Fire that idiot

[z0sa]

Man, I'm frustrated watching them not pass the ball to Victor. I can't imagine how he must feel. I'd rather he initiate the offense, and I'm only half kidding.

It's fucking bullshit, I'm 100% with you. I'd rather him tank the offense and take 25 shots on isos a game every night than watch the "beautiful game" for another blowout.

[ducks]

First possession, Victor is open with Conley defending him, nobody even looks up.

Pop great half time speech huh

[Thomas82]

Sochan ignoring Wemby again

What else is new? SMH

[ducks]

Should this not been addressed at halftime
Pass to the big guy ?

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao holy shit Collins, this guy is terrible

[timtonymanu]

ROFL we know when the other team stops coasting, it will end ugly fast.

Like clockwork. I don’t get excited when the spurs lead, it means the other team is taking it easy on them until it really matters.

[Joseph Kony]

:lmao :lmao Osman dribbles off his foot


Who could have foreseen the Spurs not being able run offense without a PG on the floor :wow

[ducks]

This is why any coach would be better then the want to be coach
He was good but he is by far the worse coach in the nba

[Robz4000]

This is more depressing than at any time last year tbh.

[timtonymanu]

:lol Atl Spur
:lol curses every player he roots for
:lol hyping up scrubs like Collins and Flasher

[ducks]

:lmao :lmao Osman dribbles off his foot


Who could have foreseen the Spurs not being able run offense without a PG on the floor :wow

The guy making 16 million

[Kawhi Duncan]

Pop ruining Wemby career... Gonna turn dude into a laughing stock as ppl clown him for being a bust because pop refuses to do anything to get him easy shots

[Joseph Kony]

:lol Hubie calling out Johnson for being a blackhole

[Robz4000]

Pop ruining Wemby career... Gonna turn dude into a laughing stock as ppl clown him for being a bust because pop refuses to do anything to get him easy shots

He'll be fine once he leaves the Spurs at the end of his rookie contract tbh. He'll also start magically getting calls.

[ducks]

192,195.951 pop is making this game
He sure is earning his money with his wise knowledge

[ducks]

This is more depressing than at any time last year tbh.

Yepper

[onechance87]

collins has been terrible,Big mistake giving him a ext

[z0sa]

:lol Hubie calling out Johnson for being a blackhole

:lol thought that was great too. Hubie's 107, drooling with an IV on the sidelines and can still see this shit.

[Robz4000]

:lmao is Pop yelling at Osman for trying to play defense on that Fathead dunk?

[timtonymanu]

collins has been terrible,Big mistake giving him a ext

Why did we give him one exactly? Because he finally stayed healthy and helped the team get to 22 wins? Such a charity contract like giving Mills 50 million or extending Pau Gasol. Just a soft ass mentality and it begins with our beta head coach.

[Gibbz]

Collins 17 FGA :lmao

[james evans]

Dunking on Osmond. wow hahaha. The commentators acting like he just dunked on Mutombo

[Kawhi Duncan]

I honestly can't think of a worse coaching job on any level

[james evans]

He'll be fine once he leaves the Spurs at the end of his rookie contract tbh. He'll also start magically getting calls.
pretty much. i said it years ago. I'm convince popovich wants to leave this team in shambles to the point it can't be repaired after he's gone. He wants none of his records broken.

[sickdsm]

:lol thought that was great too. Hubie's 107, drooling with an IV on the sidelines and can still see this shit.

Hubie also said Ant looks like he looks like he hasn't missed a beat with the injury. Wolves broadcast said he's clearly lost a step and he's not explosive. lol

[sickdsm]

Vassell looks to be a better offensive player than Wemby. He reminds me of a Desmond Bane.

[Robz4000]

Real talk, I'm not sure the Spurs have another 6 wins in them this season.

[scott]

You guys wanted him replaced. There are no other point guards. Keldon handling the ball is not better than Jeremy. Tre is, by a distance, the best offensive player off the dribble, but he stinks on ice at just about everything else.

But they're winning, so fuck it for now. As long as they have a chance to win I'm pretty happy.

Everyone wanted him replaced with a PG. Many of those people wanted Sochan still starting, just not at PG. There is nuance, of course. Tre is who most of us (including me) want starting given the current roster. But if the Head Coach wants a high volume 3PT shooter in for Sochan (which is perfectly rational), then Graham is the one who fits the bill.

But alas, we are winning. Let's see how the 4Q plays out.

[onechance87]

pass that shit to wemby tre wtf

[jeebus]

Collins 17 FGA :lmao

The minute that fucking box of used and diseased condoms went to the bench, the Spurs played better.

[thiste]

Collins 17 FGA :lmao

And Wemby with 8...

[Devi8or]

Wemby with the seal, keldon was like nah

[onechance87]

keldon wtf

[poopbox]

Keldon :lmao

[Chomag]

Who the fuck made Collins our 1st option on the team?? Oh thats right....

[z0sa]

Collins 17 FGA :lmao

Why the FUCK does this long in the tooth ass white boy have double the shots of the franchise????

[Gibbz]

WHAT IS THIS LINEUP

[Chomag]

All I'm saying is Wemby deserves better then this and I know he is professional but I wouldn't hold it against him if he asks for Pop to go or he does.

[CorrectCrusader]

Every time Zach Collins shoots a three an angel dies

[SPURt]

I hate this lineup

[SpursRulez4eVeR]

this feels like a fucking g league game

[SpursWoman]

Here comes the ass whooping!

[Robz4000]

All I'm saying is Wemby deserves better then this and I know he is professional but I wouldn't hold it against him if he asks for Pop to go or he does.

We can only hope.

[scott]

I want whatever has given Keldon the confidence to drive on Gobert and not expect his shit to get stuffed. I'll be wrong, but at least I'll have confidence.

[Gibbz]

Surely Pop is losing games on purpose, right? A toddler could put together a more competitive 4th-quarter lineup than the one he probably just lost the game with.

[sickdsm]

All I'm saying is Wemby deserves better then this and I know he is professional but I wouldn't hold it against him if he asks for Pop to go or he does.

How has Vassell and Wemby been on pnr? Seems to me that would be deadly af.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Collin’s thinks because he’s alone at three point line he should take the shot. They’re leaving you unguarded for a reason

[Russo21]

How can we actually be worse than last year? Seriously doesn't make sense.

[onechance87]

How has Vassell and Wemby been on pnr? Seems to me that would be deadly af.

vassell not that good with pick and roll

[thiste]

How has Vassell and Wemby been on pnr? Seems to me that would be deadly af.

No one passes the ball to Wemby when he rolls after a screen. Check it out, it's unreal.

[Obstructed_View]

I want whatever has given Keldon the confidence to drive on Gobert and not expect his shit to get stuffed. I'll be wrong, but at least I'll have confidence.
Collins is supposed to flash to the rim for a pass. When he doesn't do that, Keldon has to shoot.

[Chomag]

Collins going iso lol

[mudd]

Austin spurs are more fun to watch!

[CorrectCrusader]

Chuck is right when he says Vassell takes dumbass shots

[baseline bum]

Zhaquille Collins with 19 shots tonight

[z0sa]

Pop's ATO: Zollins 1 on 1 with Gobert :lol

[scott]

Hubie Brown saying the words "you have to get Collins involved" is a real life demonstration of how horrible dementia is.

[Gibbz]

Vanilla Triplets in to seal the loss. Shameful

[Chomag]

Lmao just stop...

[CorrectCrusader]

Alright turning this game off dude holy shit Zach Collins

[Spurs Brazil]

Collins with 20FGA. The extension looks worst and worst

[SPURt]

Collins is unbearable

[baseline bum]

If Collins is shooting like shit WTF is the point of even having him on the floor?

[james evans]

this team and the coach are fucking terrible.

[Frenchfred]

Gobert: 16 points on 7/8, Collins: 12 points on 6/20

[Devi8or]

This game died in the hands of Zach Collins today....singlehandedly shot us out of it

[rascal]

How can we actually be worse than last year? Seriously doesn't make sense.

They will be picking up some wins as the schedule softens.

[MannyIsGod]

Words can't convey how much of a black hole Collins is. Meanwhile zero minutes for basset

[SpursFan86]

Collins with 2x the FGA as Victor. What the fuck are we doing here? :lol

[jeebus]

I miss the days when the SPOS pulled players and yelled at them when they shot a terrible shot. Now it's encouraged.

[james evans]

I seriously cannot beleive we tanked to draft the best player in the draft only to make him the 5th option

[Robz4000]

At no point did it ever feel like the Spurs had a serious chance to win this game tbh.

[Russo21]

No one passes the ball to Wemby when he rolls after a screen. Check it out, it's unreal.

That's entirely on the old bastard on the sidelines. The prick isn't coaching. Like hey Pop, this isn't a team full of mature veterans in TD TP Manu Bowen, Elliot and DROB. They're young kids. Actually fucken coach for the first time in a decade. If not, GTFO. Most overrated coach of all time

[Obstructed_View]

Collins may literally be the worst defender I have ever seen. He backs away from dribblers and his man always gets rebounds and putbacks.

BTW, still think this shit is Sochan's fault?

[Chomag]

Pop has taken all my enthusiasm as a fan that I had this year out of me.

[Barfunk]

Collins with 2x the FGA as Victor. What the fuck are we doing here? :lol

Coaching :-(

[MannyIsGod]

Hubie Brown saying the words "you have to get Collins involved" is a real life demonstration of how horrible dementia is..

I about lost my shit at that comment. Need to get Collins involved on the bench.

[TDomination]

Collins with 2x the FGA as Victor. What the fuck are we doing here? :lol

all on Pop

beyond stupid game management.

collins is fine in a limited role. but pop is out to make him the centerpiece.

[z0sa]

Collins with 2x the FGA as Victor. What the fuck are we doing here? :lol

:pop

[baseline bum]

Words can't convey how much of a black hole Collins is. Meanwhile zero minutes for basset

When Collins is this shit offensively might as well just give his minutes to McDermott who can be the same traffic cone on defense but at least hit a shot too.

[onechance87]

why is pop over playing collins for....Lets try another big already pop

[thiste]

If Collins is shooting like shit WTF is the point of even having him on the floor?

Have you seen Bassey? He hasn't played all game. Is he injured?

[Barfunk]

Zack Morris ball

[ginobilized]

There is no rhythm, IQ or sync on offense. Painful to watch.
Seems like there's never more than 2 players on the same page on any given play.
Very weird. I don't remember the discombobulation last season

[hoopdreams11]

Tom Collins killing us in the second half 27% from 3 on the year 0-6 tonight he doesn’t need to shoot them

[Budkin]

Pop has taken all my enthusiasm as a fan that I had this year out of me.

Same. It’s unfuckingbelievable.

[Mikeanaro]

I seriously cannot beleive we tanked to draft the best player in the draft only to make him the 5th option
Exactly

[scott]

Somewhere, whoever it was who made the TV schedule for ESPN and advocated for so many Spurs games this season is wondering how much longer he'll have a job.

[z0sa]

THANK YOU FOR PASSING IT TO WEMBY IN SCORING POSITION

[Obstructed_View]

Good hustle by Vassell.

[sickdsm]

They will be picking up some wins as the schedule softens.

Spurs had the 6th hardest schedule remaining as of a few days ago......

[Barfunk]

Pop be like: "Okay, y'all said y'all want Sochan out of starting PG? I'll give ya Sochan outta starting PG."

[Obstructed_View]

Same. It’s unfuckingbelievable.
I've felt this way much of the time since 2006.

[Barfunk]

Nice missed layup Kid Cudi (Cedi)

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Any time Collins takes 20 shot attempts in a game the whole team should have to run sprints the next day.

[Russo21]

On the bright side, at least we're all but guaranteed top 6 pick in the draft :)

[Kawhi Duncan]

Wemby the roleplayer... They don't even let him dribble or drive, or set up a pick and roll as the ballhandler

[Obstructed_View]

Hey, nobody boxes out!

[Barfunk]

I've felt this way much of the time since 2006.

I see what you did there, lol.

[Blizzardwizard]

"The real wins are the friends we made along the way." :pop:

[onechance87]

keldon with his weak ass d

[Robz4000]

Welp, that sequence is gonna be on Shaqtin'.

[TekXX]

oh my lord

[Barfunk]

Welp, that sequence is gonna be on Shaqtin'.

Big time lol

[SpursFan86]

Tre with the airball on the open corner 3. Perfect ending to this game. Another double digit loss (probably)!

[NASpurs]

Reminds me when a TOSB Kobe was holding the Lakers back from moving forward. Now we have a TOSB coach doing the same.

[SPURt]

Don’t know what Pop is doing with Sochan. Cedi got way too many minutes play like trash. Horrible 4th quarter rotation. I’d be ok never seeing Collins in a Spurs jersey again. Yikes.

[Russo21]

"The real wins are the friends we made along the way." :pop:

The real win is the 16 million I'm stealing this year :pop:

[MannyIsGod]

I maintain that cutting a back up point guard and a 3 point specialist before the season we're both incredibly stupid moves given this roster. Branh.haa been the most disappointing player this year and that's saying something given how bad Collins is.

[baseline bum]

Wow Spurs are amazing at scoring in the last two minutes of the game when they're down 7-10 points

[Obstructed_View]

I see what you did there, lol.
Wait, what did I do?

[hoopdreams11]

who is the shooting coach 4 days off and we shoot like this

[timtonymanu]

Reminds me when a TOSB Kobe was holding the Lakers back from moving forward. Now we have a TOSB coach doing the same.

Wonder what PR move pop can take advantage of next so that the slurpers defend him.

“Can’t think of another head coach that tells the crowd to stop booing. That’s why he’s the GOAT coach. :cry:”

[CorrectCrusader]

We lost the game when Rudy Gobert came in in the middle of the 4th and Pop took out Vic at the same time.

[TekXX]

When denying the fans free food is the big win of the game.

[Barfunk]

Zack shooting 27% from 3 and goes 0-6 today.

[Obstructed_View]

Don’t know what Pop is doing with Sochan. Cedi got way too many minutes play like trash. Horrible 4th quarter rotation. I’d be ok never seeing Collins in a Spurs jersey again. Yikes.
Exactly what everybody wanted.

[Cardinal]

Not sure Osman in the starting lineup and playing 30+ minutes is the answer here... lol

[TekXX]

Exactly what everybody wanted.

And he still failed.

[Chomag]

Wemby*

[tbdog]

Who will have more: Spurs 3ptm this season or mass shooting victims?

[KobesAchilles]

Our offense is fine idiots on Spurstalk said. Wemby shoots enough. He gets the ball a lot. Do you want him taking all the shots? Beautiful game. KJ and Collins should be shooting a lot too. Wemby leads the team by a whole 2 shots! Isn’t that enough for you!

It’s funny watching this board slowly come to the realization of what has been very obvious since before the season even started.

[TimDunkem]

Who will have more: Spurs 3ptm this season or mass shooting victims?
Mass shooting victims easily.

[hoopdreams11]

Tom Collins you are open for a reason pass the ball

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Everyone wanted him replaced with a PG. Many of those people wanted Sochan still starting, just not at PG. There is nuance, of course. Tre is who most of us (including me) want starting given the current roster. But if the Head Coach wants a high volume 3PT shooter in for Sochan (which is perfectly rational), then Graham is the one who fits the bill.

But alas, we are winning. Let's see how the 4Q plays out.
The Spurs don't have a point guard. And now the fan base has blamed him to the point that he's lost his starting job and most of his confidence. So I hope you guys enjoy watching Tre Jones get his shit pushed in because that is what you're gonna get.

Yeah, I'm annoyed. :lol

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And he still failed.

He who? You can't blame this game on him.

[TekXX]

The Spurs don't have a point guard. And now the fan base has blamed him to the point that he's lost his starting job and most of his confidence. So I hope you guys enjoy watching Tre Jones get his shit pushed in because that is what you're gonna get.

Yeah, I'm annoyed. :lol

If Sochan played well he wouldn't have lost his starting job, stop acting like Pop gives a shit what the fans think.

[Barfunk]

Wait, what did I do?

You agreed with the other poster who said he has been robbed of enthusiasm as a fan. You said you've been feeling that way since 06', yet we won in 2007 and 2014.

So despite the pessimism you were feeling, the doom and gloom is not necassarily an indication of possible and or likely future success. Unless you weren't even talking about the Spurs and maybe were hinting at life in general.

[cd98]

Wemby's numbers don't show it, necessarily, but he did a good job of not just taking threes, but moving around and trying to get to spots to score. Even when that doesn't lead to him taking a shot, it helps open up the game for everyone. He still gets pushed out too far on the post, but that will be fixed in time as he gets stronger. Now, if he can just get some passes.

[DMX7]

Zack shooting 27% from 3 and goes 0-6 today.

Right, do we really need him shooting 6 3-pointers? No way Pop tolerates that in a year we're the Spurs are really competing for the playoffs much less a championship.

[Chomag]

Wemby looked miserable at the end of the game, you can see it all over his body language.

[Barfunk]

Right, do we really need him shooting 6 3-pointers? No way Pop tolerates that in a year we're the Spurs are really competing for the playoffs much less a championship.

Yupp. Perplexing seeing how bad he's shooting. Only other thing I can think is that he's telling him to shoot himself out/get himself out of the slump.

[z0sa]

I hate to see it, but Wemby is checking out. He's so rarely rewarded for running hard, getting blocks, etc and when he does have it rolling, Pop quickly benches him.

[thiste]

Didn't Pop say « we want more wins » at the beginning of the season?

[Mikeanaro]

If Sochan played well he wouldn't have lost his starting job, stop acting like Pop gives a shit what the fans think.
What starting job? he was never a PG in the first place.

[DMX7]

Wemby looked miserable at the end of the game, you can see it all over his body language.

Yeah, I noticed that too. What is he supposed to feel though? It's a 15 game losing streak -- how far from a franchise record?

[3&D_TBH]

Not sure how Collins gets 20 shots and Vic gets 13. Just hard to watch tbh.

[Blizzardwizard]

I hate to see it, but Wemby is checking out. He's so rarely rewarded for running hard, getting blocks, etc and when he does have it rolling, Pop quickly benches him.

Went all out to try and block the Naz Reid three when the game was still in reach while the other four useless idiots just stood around ball-watching under the basket and let Ant Edwards fly in untouched for the putback :lol

[Mugen]

Just such a horribly coached team, the worst I've seen in sports in 20+ years tbh. Combine having the worst coach in the league with a bottom 5 roster talent wise and you get 15 straight Ls that I could easily see hit 25 :lol

[Thomas82]

Yeah, I noticed that too. What is he supposed to feel though? It's a 15 game losing streak -- how far from a franchise record?

The next loss ties the record.

[ducks]

3 players have more shots then the star

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You agreed with the other poster who said he has been robbed of enthusiasm as a fan. You said you've been feeling that way since 06', yet we won in 2007 and 2014.

So despite the pessimism you were feeling, the doom and gloom is not necassarily an indication of possible and or likely future success. Unless you weren't even talking about the Spurs and maybe were hinting at life in general.
Pop benched the centers in the 2006 playoffs after Nazr Mohammed shot and hit a three pointer in garbage time against Sacramento. By the Mavs series, all three of them were DNP-CD. The Spurs should have threepeated. Just because they won two titles doesn't make Pop's retarded coaching decisions less maddening. The second half of Timmy's career was such a waste.

[ducks]

I honestly can't think of a worse coaching job on any level

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Went all out to try and block the Naz Reid three when the game was still in reach while the other four useless idiots just stood around ball-watching under the basket and let Ant Edwards fly in untouched for the putback :lol
Vassell and Johnson should be ashamed, but they aren't good enough at basketball to be.

[emanueldavidginobili]

As much as I want Pop to hang it up this team just lacks talent. Naz Reid would probably be the second/3 best player right now on the Spurs. Dudes like the 6 best player on his own team lmao. The right lineups will help some but at the end of this day this team lacks talent and athleticism. Spurs need a fresh new scouting staff as well as an overall different mindset when it comes to prospects.

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If Sochan played well he wouldn't have lost his starting job, stop acting like Pop gives a shit what the fans think.
Yeah, 33 points, 8 rebounds and 6 assists shooting 86 percent from the field just isn't gonna cut it. What a colossal fuckup.

[boutons_deux]

-15 second half

Horrific shooting percentage at any distance

So many failures to finish at the basket

They might play worse

I don't see how they can play better. They just suck

22W might not be achievable

[emanueldavidginobili]

Wemby and Devin are the only players I wouldn't trade, everyone else should be available in trades.

[objective]

Pop benched the centers in the 2006 playoffs after Nazr Mohammed shot and hit a three pointer in garbage time against Sacramento. By the Mavs series, all three of them were DNP-CD. The Spurs should have threepeated. Just because they won two titles doesn't make Pop's retarded coaching decisions less maddening. The second half of Timmy's career was such a waste.

Pop showed more fury and action chewing out Nazr for not taking a turnover then he has the last 5 years

It was wrong and dopey, but he at least had some fire back then. Now he just sort of wanders around when it occurs to him that the Spurs fans shouldn't boo their own players like Kawhi. Have to take the mic to defend his players. What's that? He's not a spur anymore? Huh. Oh well. Look at that Zach Collins, so nasty!

[Robz4000]

Wemby and Devin are the only players I wouldn't trade, everyone else should be available in trades.

I'd 100% trade Devin too.

[objective]

As much as I want Pop to hang it up this team just lacks talent. Naz Reid would probably be the second/3 best player right now on the Spurs. Dudes like the 6 best player on his own team lmao. The right lineups will help some but at the end of this day this team lacks talent and athleticism. Spurs need a fresh new scouting staff as well as an overall different mindset when it comes to prospects.

It's true, Has would be the third best Spur.

And Collins will be making like a total of $7 million more the next 2 seasons...

Ouch

[Barfunk]

Pop benched the centers in the 2006 playoffs after Nazr Mohammed shot and hit a three pointer in garbage time against Sacramento. By the Mavs series, all three of them were DNP-CD. The Spurs should have threepeated. Just because they won two titles doesn't make Pop's retarded coaching decisions less maddening. The second half of Timmy's career was such a waste.

And there's this. I agree, Pop had a big hand in losing in 2006. Same I think in 2008, but with benching Bowen. I don't know why he does this. When he was on, there was nobody better (2014) but when he makes these simply dumb coaching decisions that even us couch coaches can see, he's pretty freaking bad.

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Pop showed more fury and action chewing out Nazr for not taking a turnover then he has the last 5 years

It was wrong and dopey, but he at least had some fire back then.
It was the exact same fire he showed his home fans for booing Kawhi Leonard.

Nazr got put into the game in garbage time of a blowout, something he didn't deserve. He got a grenade passed to him with the shot clock winding down. Nibody told him to take the violation so he shot it. Who knew it would go in? Pop then called a timeout and chewed his ass, then threw Nazr under the bus to the press as a classless player, something he NEVER was in his career. Then he used that as an excuse to transition to smallball for the playoffs. He isn't any different today.

[timtonymanu]

I'd 100% trade Devin too.

He can’t stay healthy. He’s easily expendable.

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And there's this. I agree, Pop had a big hand in losing in 2006. Same I think in 2008, but with benching Bowen. I don't know why he does this. When he was on, there was nobody better (2014) but when he makes these simply dumb coaching decisions that even us couch coaches can see, he's pretty freaking bad.

And he got rid of Bruce Bowen and replaced him with Keith Bogans, telling the press that he was better than Bruce.

[BatManu20]

I’ve seen enough gentlemen. This team needs high-end talent badly. I say we start tanking.

[tbdog]

It'll be disappointing if Spurs don't make a trade this deadline. Yeah yeah, we say it all the time. But you have to start looking at forming a team. They should know what Wemby is and what is required. But more importantly make trades for better fits.

[onechance87]

everybody clowning us rn....Pathetic from our coaching and management...Can we at
least win a game here and there ffs

[Barfunk]

And he got rid of Bruce Bowen and replaced him with Keith Bogans, telling the press that he was better than Bruce.

Pop has drank and been hungover more basketball than I'll ever know, but yeah, dumb on that.

[ducks]

Pop breaking bad records now
He could have retired and had one of the higher winning percentage ever
But he was above that

[poopbox]

It's funny cause however bad we are this year that just means the leap we take next year has to be that much more cause I don't see how at the end of this season you tell Wemby "yeah we going to run it back with like 80% of the same roster" and he is like "thats great".

Imagine telling Wemby "you know that Keldon guy who never passes chunks everything goes through shooting slumps and plays no defense, well he will be on your team next year and the next year after that" :lol

I feel bad for the obama coach who has to come in and clean up the george bush mess Pop has made. We are arguably in the middle of the greatest depression in spurs history. This team might legit break the all time loss record. We are easily that bad.

[Arcadian]

Who will have more: Spurs 3ptm this season or mass shooting victims?

:lol

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Pop has drank and been hungover more basketball than I'll ever know, but yeah, dumb on that.
He's cost the Spurs so many games, so many playoff series, so many title chances. At some point you'd rather have a high school basketball coach who just calls timeouts and decides who shoots technicals.