View Full Version : Anyone is glad that GSW dynasty is over? At least Steph/Klay/Draymond will not surpass Tony and Manu with 5 rings
spursparker9
12-14-2023, 09:47 AM
:lol:toast
daslicer
12-14-2023, 09:58 AM
I always viewed the Warriors big 3 as the opposite of the Spurs big 3. They were a bunch of arrogant douchebags unlike the Spurs big 3 and very hateable. You can say Tony Parker has arrogance but not on the level as the Warriors big 3 had.
spursparker9
12-14-2023, 11:07 AM
I always viewed the Warriors big 3 as the opposite of the Spurs big 3. They were a bunch of arrogant douchebags unlike the Spurs big 3 and very hateable. You can say Tony Parker has arrogance but not on the level as the Warriors big 3 had.
Yea...the arrogance level is definitely different.
Steph with his shimmy and his antics with playing his mouth guard.
Klay with his insecurities and need to remind his opponents that he has 4 rings.
Dray...Everyone can see who he is :lol
MultiTroll
12-14-2023, 11:18 AM
Very glad.
Entertainment industry *Champions can let the door hit their ass on the way out.
The Celtics pussing out and handing them 4 makes for disgraceful comparisons to real dynasties.
Lil Twinkie Stevie Kerr embracing cheating / hurting people while doing his Pop II virtue signaling in interviews.
Good riddance all.
and that damn "waaarriors" chant from that SF crowd.
spursparker9
12-14-2023, 11:28 AM
Yea...the arrogance level is definitely different.
Steph with his shimmy and his antics with playing his mouth guard.
Klay with his insecurities and need to remind his opponents that he has 4 rings.
Dray...Everyone can see who he is :lol
Forgot to mention that even their owner had made an arrogant remarks saying that they were light years ahead of everyone else. :lol
daslicer
12-14-2023, 11:32 AM
Yea...the arrogance level is definitely different.
Steph with his shimmy and his antics with playing his mouth guard.
Klay with his insecurities and need to remind his opponents that he has 4 rings.
Dray...Everyone can see who he is :lol
Imagine if Duncan acted like Steph with the shimmy and constant taunting of the opponent and Manu being a super dirty player along with talking a lot of trash like Draymond and Tony acting like Klay every time he scores lol. Just the thought of it makes me laugh hard.
John B
12-14-2023, 11:43 AM
:bobo
exstatic
12-14-2023, 11:44 AM
Forgot to mention that even their owner had made an arrogant remarks saying that they were light years ahead of everyone else. :lol
And then he lit a match and burned the franchise to the ground by listening to his son over his GM, and drafting Wiseman over LaMelo or Haliburton, and Kuminga over Wagner.
Oh, and they're going to lose their lottery pick to Portland for being arrogant enough to only include top 4 protection on a salary dump trade of Iguodala. :lol
They will be remembered for four rings
But they’ll also be remembered for how they got there and how they acted.
You can’t pick your opponent, but for the first one they got an injury ravaged Cavs team in finals.
73 win team got beaten by a mediocre Lebron team so they had to go get Durant, who wouldn’t have been an option if not for Curry’s below market contract given ankle issues.
Had to send a goon out to injure Kawhi to ensure another. And then Kawhi exacts his revenge a few years later.
And the way it ended is beautiful. Draymond finally being a pariah. Thinking an old CP3 was going to save the day. Wasting those hoards of draft picks they were gifted.
Mikeanaro
12-14-2023, 12:03 PM
They added KD to win 2 of those 4 so its worthless.
Ed Helicopter Jones
12-14-2023, 02:06 PM
And then he lit a match and burned the franchise to the ground by listening to his son over his GM, and drafting Wiseman over LaMelo or Haliburton, and Kuminga over Wagner.
Oh, and they're going to lose their lottery pick to Portland for being arrogant enough to only include top 4 protection on a salary dump trade of Iguodala. :lol
Although i kind of hate seeing that pick convey to Portland almost as much. That's kind of a no win, except for the fact that Portland might have a long rebuild themselves.
Gibbz
12-14-2023, 02:10 PM
The league let Draymond get away with so much for so long that GSW felt like they had to ride him til the wheels fell off, and they've long since flown off into the river and he's burying any last chance Curry had.
lefty
12-14-2023, 02:10 PM
Never say never :lol
But yeah
https://media.tenor.com/i1nr40h2z0cAAAAC/leonardo-glass-leonardo.gif
lefty
12-14-2023, 02:11 PM
Having said that, I wouldn't have a problem with them surpassing us if they weren't insufferable douchebags and didn't twerk for KD
baseline bum
12-14-2023, 02:14 PM
Although i kind of hate seeing that pick convey to Portland almost as much. That's kind of a no win, except for the fact that Portland might have a long rebuild themselves.
I don't think there is any might about it with how shit Scoot looks 1/4 into the season.
spurraider21
12-14-2023, 02:37 PM
as one of the earliest curry stans on this board, yeah they're done
even if they let klay walk, waive paul (non-guaranteed next year) and looney (only partially guaranteed)... and even if payton declines his 9m player option, they're still looking at a salary of 130 mil with the cap expected to be around 142, and no first round pick this coming draft
timtonymanu
12-14-2023, 04:03 PM
Well deserved. These faggots were always showboating and disrespecting their opponents when things were good. But when the going got tough, they folded or resorted to cheap shit like Draymond or the Zaza incident. Imagine how many rings less they would be if they weren’t playing undermanned opponents all the time or if they never landed that pussy Durant.
TD 21
12-14-2023, 04:06 PM
Don't believe their media buddies hype/propaganda; they're not a dynasty.
They will be remembered for four rings
But they’ll also be remembered for how they got there and how they acted.
You can’t pick your opponent, but for the first one they got an injury ravaged Cavs team in finals.
73 win team got beaten by a mediocre Lebron team so they had to go get Durant, who wouldn’t have been an option if not for Curry’s below market contract given ankle issues.
Had to send a goon out to injure Kawhi to ensure another. And then Kawhi exacts his revenge a few years later.
And the way it ended is beautiful. Draymond finally being a pariah. Thinking an old CP3 was going to save the day. Wasting those hoards of draft picks they were gifted.
You forgot the unprecedented opponent injury luck throughout, especially in '15 when considering the Cavaliers injuries, they somehow didn't play a single elite team and faced nothing but teams with multiple significant injuries.
gambit1990
12-14-2023, 07:31 PM
at least one of those three is ringing again tbh …
Fizziksman
12-14-2023, 07:55 PM
Pretty much destroyed a generation of American youth basketball. All the best players are going to be European.
Spurs Homer
12-14-2023, 08:08 PM
Moving screen after moving screen...
chucking every shot behind those moving screens
raymond riding on opponents backs like zorro - then berating the refs when the refs grew a pair and called the game fairly -
douchey "go to sleep" kunt antics
but i would not be surprised if green is allowed back really soon and given even more license to hurt opponents for one last douche run
fuck those front-running kunts
Arcadian
12-14-2023, 08:55 PM
Is anyone NOT glad about this?
widowmaker
12-14-2023, 09:08 PM
I wouldn’t call it a dynasty.
lefty
12-14-2023, 09:15 PM
Pretty much destroyed a generation of American youth basketball. All the best players are going to be European.
and that’s a good thing
daslicer
12-14-2023, 09:25 PM
Is anyone NOT glad about this?
The media seems pretty upset about it. The last few days I have heard them say stuff like the Warriors dynasty must be saved and that it will be sad if it ends prematurely.
The media seems pretty upset about it. The last few days I have heard them say stuff like the Warriors dynasty must be saved and that it will be sad if it ends prematurely.
Given his history, there would be nothing more fitting than Draymond's stupid ass being the reason everything falls apart with Golden State.
Got suspended in the Finals which pretty much cost them a ring.
Ran KD out of town.
Punched a teammate in practice, and continues to assault opponents on a regular basis.
Not to mention his constant bitching to the refs which they just let go for some reason. Meanwhile, they hand out techs to other guys if they clap wrong or look at them dirty
Seventyniner
12-14-2023, 09:44 PM
Given his history, there would be nothing more fitting than Draymond's stupid ass being the reason everything falls apart with Golden State.
Got suspended in the Finals which pretty much cost them a ring.
Ran KD out of town.
Punched a teammate in practice, and continues to assault opponents on a regular basis.
Not to mention his constant bitching to the refs which they just let go for some reason. Meanwhile, they hand out techs to other guys if they clap wrong or look at them dirty
And all that after signing a 4/100 contract. The gift that keeps on giving.
MultiTroll
12-14-2023, 10:05 PM
Encouraging to see how many STers see the Warriors for exactly what they were and are.
Obstructed_View
12-14-2023, 10:35 PM
I don't really dislike Klay or Stephen or Iggy. Draymond is so smart when he's doing analysis that he's hard to dislike. On the court, he's the embodiment of what people used to accuse Bruce Bowen of being: a guy who intentionally tries to hurt people. Remember when Draymond kicked like four different guys in the nuts claiming his knee going up was a natural motion? :lol
Tyronn Lue
12-15-2023, 01:35 AM
This thread :lol
I always liked Curry and Thompson, especially together. Green added a toughness that those two didn't bring, but they brought finesse. I didn't think they needed Durant, wouldn't walk away from him but they were doing fine without him. I feel like the addition of Durant might have damaged Curry's trajectory even though he's a superstar.
But no, I have no reason to care that the Warriors have more or fewer rings than SA. It does nothing for me.
BatManu20
12-15-2023, 01:37 AM
As much as I hated them and their astounding arrogance, I'll always be grateful that they kept Bron from winning 2 more rings tbh.
Tyronn Lue
12-15-2023, 01:38 AM
I don't really dislike Klay or Stephen or Iggy. Draymond is so smart when he's doing analysis that he's hard to dislike. On the court, he's the embodiment of what people used to accuse Bruce Bowen of being: a guy who intentionally tries to hurt people. Remember when Draymond kicked like four different guys in the nuts claiming his knee going up was a natural motion? :lol
I don't remember Bowen punching his teammate and fucking up the team chemistry, or running off the stars, or shitting on the team during crucial stretches by his antics. Antics are fine for enforcers but timing is everything and his exhibited lack of situational awareness betrays his supposed IQ.
HemisfairArena
12-15-2023, 02:09 AM
I think this thread is way to premature,,,the warriors arent dead yet,,,,they still got some years left in 'em. And as far as rings go, Warriors may not have 5 rings but they did something the Spurs never could and that is repeat and defend their title,,,,
daslicer
12-15-2023, 02:25 AM
I think this thread is way to premature,,,the warriors arent dead yet,,,,they still got some years left in 'em. And as far as rings go, Warriors may not have 5 rings but they did something the Spurs never could and that is repeat and defend their title,,,,
They are done. Klay is washed. He reminds me of Kobe post 2013. Klay was a huge reason why they were able to win titles. They can't replace what he used to bring them. As for their back-to-back I don't respect it. Imagine if the Spurs were able to pair Dirk or KG with the big 3 during the early 00's. That's essentially what they did with getting KD.
HemisfairArena
12-15-2023, 03:23 AM
They are done. Klay is washed. He reminds me of Kobe post 2013. Klay was a huge reason why they were able to win titles. They can't replace what he used to bring them. As for their back-to-back I don't respect it. Imagine if the Spurs were able to pair Dirk or KG with the big 3 during the early 00's. That's essentially what they did with getting KD.
Spurs had a big 4 just like the Warriors,,,,Bruce Bowen was the Spurs version of Draymond Green,,,,followed by the other big 3.
spursparker9
12-15-2023, 03:35 AM
As much as I hated them and their astounding arrogance, I'll always be grateful that they kept Bron from winning 2 more rings tbh.
if 2017 Nephew did not get ZaZa-ed, I think Spurs would win against Cavs (assuming Spurs beat GSW with a fully healthy Nephew).
2018...Houston have peak Harden + CP3 which forced game 7 with GSW. I think Lebron and Cavs still would not win easily if Houston or Spurs advance to the Finals to face them.
So Lebron still might not have win 2 more rings even if GSW did not appear in the finals. The west were still strong.
LeBowen
12-15-2023, 03:54 AM
if 2017 Nephew did not get ZaZa-ed, I think Spurs would win against Cavs (assuming Spurs beat GSW with a fully healthy Nephew).
2018...Houston have peak Harden + CP3 which forced game 7 with GSW. I think Lebron and Cavs still would not win easily if Houston or Spurs advance to the Finals to face them.
So Lebron still might not have win 2 more rings even if GSW did not appear in the finals. The west were still strong.
Lebron won in 2016 only because he played against the Warriors that had awful wing and interior defense.
2016 Spurs and OKC beat those Cavs with ease.
While we're at hating, 2015 Warriors had ridiculous injury luck.
Russ went down before the payoffs, CP3 injured himself while taking the Spurs out, Cavs were down to Lebron+scrubs.
2016 they choked and then got KD.
Most overrated dynasty of all time.
Even with KD it took Zaza and then Rockets choking hard a year later for them to win.
exstatic
12-15-2023, 07:12 AM
Pretty much destroyed a generation of American youth basketball. All the best players are going to be European.
AAU was broken long before the warriors run. Kids have been team hopping to avoid coaching for decades.
tbdog
12-15-2023, 07:52 AM
Lebron won in 2016 only because he played against the Warriors that had awful wing and interior defense.
2016 Spurs and OKC beat those Cavs with ease.
While we're at hating, 2015 Warriors had ridiculous injury luck.
Russ went down before the payoffs, CP3 injured himself while taking the Spurs out, Cavs were down to Lebron+scrubs.
2016 they choked and then got KD.
Most overrated dynasty of all time.
Even with KD it took Zaza and then Rockets choking hard a year later for them to win.
Their last title kinda proved they were legit. But those Durant years were frustrating. We missed Curry in his prime run that team.
daslicer
12-15-2023, 10:09 AM
Spurs had a big 4 just like the Warriors,,,,Bruce Bowen was the Spurs version of Draymond Green,,,,followed by the other big 3.
Warriors original 4 was Steph, Klay, Dray, Iggy vs Spurs original 4 of Tim, Manu, Tony, Bowen. I would take the Spurs original 4 over the Warriors original 4. Now when the Warriors add KD to their big 4 that's the huge game changer. Imagine if the Spurs were able to add Dirk or KG to their original 4 and they would have easily won back-to-back. The Warriors failed to win back-to-back with their original 4 and would have never achieved it without KD and hence why I don't respect their back-to-back titles.
spursparker9
12-15-2023, 10:13 AM
Another point is Raymond will also be inducted into HOF due to the 4 rings even though he only put up triple single numbers :lol
Tbh he got really exposed in the 2020 seasons when Klay and Steph was out. Without the splash bros, he is really nothing.
Seventyniner
12-15-2023, 10:49 AM
Another point is Raymond will also be inducted into HOF due to the 4 rings even though he only put up triple single numbers :lol
Tbh he got really exposed in the 2020 seasons when Klay and Steph was out. Without the splash bros, he is really nothing.
If Silver really wants to hit Draymond where it hurts, give him only a short suspension but say he's permanently ineligible for the Hall of Fame.
exstatic
12-15-2023, 10:56 AM
I think this thread is way to premature,,,the warriors arent dead yet,,,,they still got some years left in 'em. And as far as rings go, Warriors may not have 5 rings but they did something the Spurs never could and that is repeat and defend their title,,,,
They’re in the lottery right now, with no chance to get into the top 4 to keep the pick, so they don’t even have that.
They’re a lottery team with everyone pretty healthy.
exstatic
12-15-2023, 10:58 AM
Another point is Raymond will also be inducted into HOF due to the 4 rings even though he only put up triple single numbers :lol
Tbh he got really exposed in the 2020 seasons when Klay and Steph was out. Without the splash bros, he is really nothing.
Rings don’t get you into the hall. Bowen has 3, and Horry has 7. No one talks about them going into the hall.
spursparker9
12-15-2023, 11:22 AM
Rings don’t get you into the hall. Bowen has 3, and Horry has 7. No one talks about them going into the hall.
Dray is different tier from Bowen and Horry.
Dray is the glue guy, high bball IQ, DPOY, anchor of GSW def, main play maker for GSW. He is generally recognised as part of the big 3 of GSW core (drafted and only play for GSW).
So his induction to HOF is automatic.
exstatic
12-15-2023, 11:41 AM
Dray is different tier from Bowen and Horry.
Dray is the glue guy, high bball IQ, DPOY, anchor of GSW def, main play maker for GSW. He is generally recognised as part of the big 3 of GSW core (drafted and only play for GSW).
So his induction to HOF is automatic.
Bowen, maybe, but Horry has it all over him, being the clutch and glue guy on 3 different teams, spanning 7 championships. HOF is also voted on, and don't think that his shennanigans won't be a factor.
lefty
12-15-2023, 03:02 PM
Lebron won in 2016 only because he played against the Warriors that had awful wing and interior defense.
2016 Spurs and OKC beat those Cavs with ease.
While we're at hating, 2015 Warriors had ridiculous injury luck.
Russ went down before the payoffs, CP3 injured himself while taking the Spurs out, Cavs were down to Lebron+scrubs.
2016 they choked and then got KD.
Most overrated dynasty of all time.
Even with KD it took Zaza and then Rockets choking hard a year later for them to win.
Th 2016 Warriors won 73 games and had the unanimous MVP
They have ZERO excuse
lefty
12-15-2023, 03:03 PM
Their last title kinda proved they were legit. But those Durant years were frustrating. We missed Curry in his prime run that team.
And Lebron probably wins a couple more rings if those phaggots don't get together
Obstructed_View
12-15-2023, 04:53 PM
I don't remember Bowen punching his teammate and fucking up the team chemistry, or running off the stars, or shitting on the team during crucial stretches by his antics. Antics are fine for enforcers but timing is everything and his exhibited lack of situational awareness betrays his supposed IQ.
I just mean on the court, but you are correct. Bruce was the consummate professional and a great teammate. He took his ignominious ousting from the Spurs with class and grace and managed not to hold a grudge (coughroberthorrycough).
For the second point, I agree with you as well. Draymond, for all his abilities, is an absolute team killer. He's cost the team dearly before, and he doesn't have the talent to overcome it now.
Obstructed_View
12-15-2023, 04:54 PM
Dray is different tier from Bowen and Horry.
Dray is the glue guy, high bball IQ, DPOY, anchor of GSW def, main play maker for GSW. He is generally recognised as part of the big 3 of GSW core (drafted and only play for GSW).
So his induction to HOF is automatic.
Bowen and Horry never cost their team a ring.
Tyronn Lue
12-15-2023, 05:14 PM
He's one of those players who will probably be a HOFer just because he was on a great team and was a starter, despite not understanding his role completely. He's a wonderful defender any team would love to have, otherwise.
TimmyBuckets
12-15-2023, 05:25 PM
Big 3 are the winningest NBA trio of all time. GSW had a crazy run though all respect to them, but they need to make major moves ASAP if they want to contend for a ring in this current NBA.
Tyronn Lue
12-15-2023, 05:28 PM
Don't believe their media buddies hype/propaganda; they're not a dynasty.
You forgot the unprecedented opponent injury luck throughout, especially in '15 when considering the Cavaliers injuries, they somehow didn't play a single elite team and faced nothing but teams with multiple significant injuries.
I disagree with this. If they weren't a dynasty then the term doesn't mean anything.
hater
12-15-2023, 10:19 PM
That shit was over like 3 years ago
HemisfairArena
12-16-2023, 02:51 AM
Warriors original 4 was Steph, Klay, Dray, Iggy vs Spurs original 4 of Tim, Manu, Tony, Bowen. I would take the Spurs original 4 over the Warriors original 4. Now when the Warriors add KD to their big 4 that's the huge game changer. Imagine if the Spurs were able to add Dirk or KG to their original 4 and they would have easily won back-to-back. The Warriors failed to win back-to-back with their original 4 and would have never achieved it without KD and hence why I don't respect their back-to-back titles.
It doesnt matter if you respect their back to back titles or not,,,they repeated and its in the record books. Your KD argument is ridiculous. So I guess you can say MJ isnt so great since he never would have won 6 titles if Rodman didnt arrive,,,,,or how about the Spurs wouldnt have 5 rings if Horry didnt arrive,,,,I guess you dont rememeber Horry saving the Spurs in the playoffs. So can you say you wont recognize that Spurs title as well?,,,,,
HemisfairArena
12-16-2023, 02:53 AM
They’re in the lottery right now, with no chance to get into the top 4 to keep the pick, so they don’t even have that.
They’re a lottery team with everyone pretty healthy.
Season isnt even 25 games in yet,,,,lmao
Big Empty
12-16-2023, 03:09 AM
Sure. Till Kawhi signs with Curry
Aggie Hoopsfan
12-16-2023, 10:53 AM
https://x.com/brickmuse/status/1735540077516956105?s=46
daslicer
12-16-2023, 01:59 PM
It doesnt matter if you respect their back to back titles or not,,,they repeated and its in the record books. Your KD argument is ridiculous. So I guess you can say MJ isnt so great since he never would have won 6 titles if Rodman didnt arrive,,,,,or how about the Spurs wouldnt have 5 rings if Horry didnt arrive,,,,I guess you dont rememeber Horry saving the Spurs in the playoffs. So can you say you wont recognize that Spurs title as well?,,,,,
This is what you said originally "Spurs had a big 4 just like the Warriors,,,,Bruce Bowen was the Spurs version of Draymond Green,,,,followed by the other big 3." You were implying basically the Spurs had same amount of talent as the Warriors when they added KD, and I refuted that by saying that wasn't true. Also saying Rodman, Horry is equal to KD is stupid. KD during that stretch with the Warriors was the second-best player in the league. Horry and Rodman never came close to that level of success. Imagine how easy it would have been for the Spurs to win back-to-back titles if they were allowed to add the second-best player in the league to their roster during the Big 3 era.
It does matter that I don't respect that back-to-back title since you responded to me. I respect that back-to-back title as much as I respect a rich kid bragging about his wealth knowing that he inherited it from daddy.
They will be remembered for four rings
But they’ll also be remembered for how they got there and how they acted.
You can’t pick your opponent, but for the first one they got an injury ravaged Cavs team in finals.
73 win team got beaten by a mediocre Lebron team so they had to go get Durant, who wouldn’t have been an option if not for Curry’s below market contract given ankle issues.
Had to send a goon out to injure Kawhi to ensure another. And then Kawhi exacts his revenge a few years later.
And the way it ended is beautiful. Draymond finally being a pariah. Thinking an old CP3 was going to save the day. Wasting those hoards of draft picks they were gifted.
Nobody will care about most of this crap, just like no one now remembers the 99 lock out and the Horry hip check in the case of the spurs. Or, in the case of LeBron, that half his championships came in the course of truncated seasons.
BUT what history will and should always remember about these teams is the impact of Durant’s decision to ring chase there, which was only enabled by an artificial cap spike in 2016. Totally agree there.
Before Leonard bitched out on us, there was a time in that window where im convinced we could have beaten them sans Durant. We were the only team that was in their heads, and they hadn’t yet to become “the warriors”. Oh yeah, fuck you Zaza!
spurraider21
12-16-2023, 02:54 PM
That shit was over like 3 years ago
They won the title in 2022
TD 21
12-17-2023, 12:13 AM
I disagree with this. If they weren't a dynasty then the term doesn't mean anything.
It doesn't mean anything when you beg the second best player of your generation to join you, simultaneously destroy arguably your stiffest competition and almost exclusively beat/avoid injured teams throughout to win.
And before you claim otherwise, no one is blaming them for the latter.
Tyronn Lue
12-17-2023, 01:18 AM
It doesn't mean anything when you beg the second best player of your generation to join you, simultaneously destroy arguably your stiffest competition and almost exclusively beat/avoid injured teams throughout to win.
And before you claim otherwise, no one is blaming them for the latter.
They were still a dynasty. It doesn't matter how they got there.
HemisfairArena
12-17-2023, 01:23 AM
This is what you said originally "Spurs had a big 4 just like the Warriors,,,,Bruce Bowen was the Spurs version of Draymond Green,,,,followed by the other big 3." You were implying basically the Spurs had same amount of talent as the Warriors when they added KD, and I refuted that by saying that wasn't true. Also saying Rodman, Horry is equal to KD is stupid. KD during that stretch with the Warriors was the second-best player in the league. Horry and Rodman never came close to that level of success. Imagine how easy it would have been for the Spurs to win back-to-back titles if they were allowed to add the second-best player in the league to their roster during the Big 3 era.
It does matter that I don't respect that back-to-back title since you responded to me. I respect that back-to-back title as much as I respect a rich kid bragging about his wealth knowing that he inherited it from daddy.
and again your disrespect for it means jackshit,,,,Warriors still repeated as champs and the rich kid still has the money,,,,,
tim_duncan_fan
12-17-2023, 04:32 AM
Steph Curry's arrogance is pretty earned, tbh
TD 21
12-17-2023, 11:48 AM
They were still a dynasty. It doesn't matter how they got there.
Of course it does. If you and a bunch of other grown men beat a bunch of kids in a basketball game(s), would it mean anything?
That's essentially what they did, both intentionally (with Durant) and unintentionally (unprecedented opponent injury luck).
The primary reason most of the greats are mythologized is because of who they had to overcome to earn their hardware.
CorrectCrusader
12-17-2023, 12:43 PM
Big 3 are the winningest NBA trio of all time. GSW had a crazy run though all respect to them, but they need to make major moves ASAP if they want to contend for a ring in this current NBA.
They have no assets to trade. They dumped off their only interesting piece in Jordan Poole for nothing. Kuminga is their only piece with value other than Curry & maybe Draymond. They don't have many 1st available to trade either. They could MAYBE get Lauri or that raptors star I forget the name of.
daslicer
12-17-2023, 04:45 PM
and again your disrespect for it means jackshit,,,,Warriors still repeated as champs and the rich kid still has the money,,,,,
And like I said before I don't have to respect it because I know in both situations the success wasn't earned through legit means. You are free to respect their rigged back-to-back titles and hold it in high regard, but I don't.
twodeep
12-17-2023, 05:40 PM
I mean anyone with a brain saw resigning Draymond was a bad idea but hey Golden States management has looked kind of lost their genius label
Obstructed_View
12-17-2023, 05:56 PM
I mean anyone with a brain saw resigning Draymond was a bad idea but hey Golden States management has looked kind of lost their genius label
What was their choice? He's too valuable to lose, when he's at his best he's impossible to replace, and they don't win without him.
Tyronn Lue
12-17-2023, 06:23 PM
Of course it does. If you and a bunch of other grown men beat a bunch of kids in a basketball game(s), would it mean anything?
That's essentially what they did, both intentionally (with Durant) and unintentionally (unprecedented opponent injury luck).
The primary reason most of the greats are mythologized is because of who they had to overcome to earn their hardware.
Do you understand what the term "dynasty" means? It doesn't mean they overcame adversity or played fair, drafted smart, developed talent, any of that. It means they ran the league for years. You don't have to like them or agree with how they won, all that matters is that they won.
No one said anyone on the team is great. Just said the team itself was a dynasty.
scott
12-17-2023, 06:34 PM
I like Curry, and I like Kerr… but F the Warriors, and glad the page is turning to a new era
TD 21
12-18-2023, 12:05 AM
Do you understand what the term "dynasty" means? It doesn't mean they overcame adversity or played fair, drafted smart, developed talent, any of that. It means they ran the league for years. You don't have to like them or agree with how they won, all that matters is that they won.
No one said anyone on the team is great. Just said the team itself was a dynasty.
No. To rightfully have that title bestowed, it has to be earned the hard way.
HemisfairArena
12-18-2023, 12:38 AM
And like I said before I don't have to respect it because I know in both situations the success wasn't earned through legit means. You are free to respect their rigged back-to-back titles and hold it in high regard, but I don't.
Again, your opinion means jackshit,,,its in the books forever,,,,tell me how it was rigged,,,,,
HemisfairArena
12-18-2023, 12:39 AM
No. To rightfully have that title bestowed, it has to be earned the hard way.
says who?,,,,lmao. Youre crying about a team signing players and winning titles instead of what?,,,drafting all their players?,,,,,,,lmao
Tyronn Lue
12-18-2023, 12:51 AM
No. To rightfully have that title bestowed, it has to be earned the hard way.
This seems pointless.
exstatic
12-18-2023, 07:25 AM
What was their choice? He's too valuable to lose, when he's at his best he's impossible to replace, and they don't win without him.
The thing is, his best is far in the rear view mirror. He’s far past his sell by date. The mistake wasn’t last summer, it was when he was clashing with Durant. If they had shipped him out then Durant may not have bolted, and they’d still be contending.
daslicer
12-18-2023, 08:11 AM
Again, your opinion means jackshit,,,its in the books forever,,,,tell me how it was rigged,,,,,
:lol My opinion does matter since your dumbass keeps responding. Also, I have told you how it is rigged, and you just can't accept that I'm not agreeing with you.
Obstructed_View
12-18-2023, 08:59 AM
The thing is, his best is far in the rear view mirror. He’s far past his sell by date. The mistake wasn’t last summer, it was when he was clashing with Durant. If they had shipped him out then Durant may not have bolted, and they’d still be contending.
I agree with everything you wrote. For those reasons, they kind of have to ride or die with him at this point, don't they?
Ocotillo
12-18-2023, 10:42 AM
Yeah, I kind of develop a dislike for teams other than the Spurs that end up being strong contenders or "dynasties". That being said, I do respect the players they have even if they annoy me.
Now they are in a bad spot. As others have said, they don't really have the assets to do anything. I would be surprised if they were to ship Steph out and the rest of the roster is either not going to fetch anything significant back or are close to being untradeable. Ex always points out the owner let his son influence their draft when they had those high picks and in addition to Father Time, that has done as much damage to their future as anything.
Maybe they can convince Pop to come run the team for them so he can be closer to Wine country.
exstatic
12-18-2023, 12:01 PM
I agree with everything you wrote. For those reasons, they kind of have to ride or die with him at this point, don't they?
Maybe, but I think he’s so toxic at this point that maybe salary dumping him could be addition by subtraction. Curry looks like he’s frustrated and done.
Ed Helicopter Jones
12-18-2023, 12:04 PM
You know what would make me glad? Seeing the Spurs put some wins together. WGAF about Golden f'ing State.
the decline continues: curry's streak of games with at least one three-pointer is over.
sammy
12-18-2023, 05:25 PM
I always viewed the Warriors big 3 as the opposite of the Spurs big 3. They were a bunch of arrogant douchebags unlike the Spurs big 3 and very hateable. You can say Tony Parker has arrogance but not on the level as the Warriors big 3 had.
:bobo
sammy
12-18-2023, 05:27 PM
Well deserved. These faggots were always showboating and disrespecting their opponents when things were good. But when the going got tough, they folded or resorted to cheap shit like Draymond or the Zaza incident. Imagine how many rings less they would be if they weren’t playing undermanned opponents all the time or if they never landed that pussy Durant.
Well said!
ambchang
12-18-2023, 10:11 PM
I personally don’t see the warrior players as inherently more annoying than most dynasties. Draymond is a louder Bowen, Thompson is an uglier Parker. Well zaza can die in a ditch and Durant is constantly having periods but players like curry, igoudala, wiggins et al are normal nice guys.
Lakers were plenty hateable, so we’re the heatles and the spurs.
The level of annoyingness of teams generally came from the media.
TD 21
12-18-2023, 11:57 PM
If Curry looked like O'Neal or James, the masses would hate him and them far more than they do.
Instead, his overt theatrics and arrogance are spun as "joy" and "showmanship".
Extra Stout
12-19-2023, 10:08 AM
If Curry looked like O'Neal or James, the masses would hate him and them far more than they do.
Instead, his overt theatrics and arrogance are spun as "joy" and "showmanship".
So all the talk of injury luck is not really what you mean. What you really mean is that you think Steph Curry has light-skinned privilege (Klay Thompson too?) and you resent it.
MultiTroll
12-19-2023, 10:29 AM
players like curry,
https://youtu.be/kyxpMy5E0nk
Stephen Curry ejected for throwing mouth guard in critical moment (nypost.com) (https://nypost.com/2023/01/26/stephen-curry-ejected-for-throwing-mouth-guard-in-critical-moment/)
MultiTroll
12-19-2023, 10:30 AM
Wasn't the 1st time the pampered little entitled one threw his mouthpiece.
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lefty
12-19-2023, 10:51 AM
Not his fault, that mouthpiece is too heavy
He needs KD to help him carry it
John B
12-19-2023, 10:54 AM
Wasn't the 1st time the pampered little entitled one threw his mouthpiece.
1618486584642355200
This brings me joy :lol:bobo
TD 21
12-19-2023, 11:04 AM
So all the talk of injury luck is not really what you mean. What you really mean is that you think Steph Curry has light-skinned privilege (Klay Thompson too?) and you resent it.
You sound like a casual fan, who relies on media narratives and results without context to formulate your opinion. Go back and look at their history, virtually everything they won was because of unprecedented opponent injury luck, from who they faced to who they avoided.
Me resenting Curry and Thompson for "light-skinned privilege" would be akin to the mostly white media "hating" white people.
Extra Stout
12-19-2023, 11:11 AM
You sound like a casual fan, who relies on media narratives and results without context to formulate your opinion. Go back and look at their history, virtually everything they won was because of unprecedented opponent injury luck, from who they faced to who they avoided.
Me resenting Curry and Thompson for "light-skinned privilege" would be akin to the mostly white media "hating" white people.
I’m a Spurs fan who knows that saying about living in glass houses. Was the ‘03 title legitimate with Chris Webber and Dirk Nowitzki injured? Did the Joe Johnson injury cast a pall on the ‘05 championship?
ambchang
12-19-2023, 11:33 AM
Wasn't the 1st time the pampered little entitled one threw his mouthpiece.
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He got ejected, how is that pampered?
TD 21
12-19-2023, 11:36 AM
I’m a Spurs fan who knows that saying about living in glass houses. Was the ‘03 title legitimate with Chris Webber and Dirk Nowitzki injured? Did the Joe Johnson injury cast a pall on the ‘05 championship?
Isolated examples, which every team benefits from and not because I'm a Spurs fan, but there's a good chance they'd have won those championships either way. The better example would be '07, where they avoided the Mavericks, Pistons and if you want to include the Suns suspensions.
Again, the Warriors are unprecedented, but you'd only know that if you actually follow it or bothered to look it up instead of regurgitating cliched drivel.
Extra Stout
12-19-2023, 11:41 AM
Isolated examples, which every team benefits from and not because I'm a Spurs fan, but there's a good chance they'd have won those championships either way. The better example would be '07, where they avoided the Mavericks, Pistons and if you want to include the Suns suspensions.
Again, the Warriors are unprecedented, but you'd only know that if you actually follow it or bothered to look it up instead of regurgitating cliched drivel.
Nah, it’s cherry-picking because you have an axe to grind.
MultiTroll
12-19-2023, 12:02 PM
He got ejected, how is that pampered?
In a meaningless 3rd game of the season vs Memphis. 2017 the Durbetta collusion season.
Yet, in the Finals Game 6 vs Cleveland the Pampered One was not suspended.
TD 21
12-19-2023, 12:03 PM
Nah, it’s cherry-picking because you have an axe to grind.
Nah, it's ad homenim time because you want to play holier than thou and are too lazy or don't care enough to actually do the research.
ambchang
12-19-2023, 01:58 PM
In a meaningless 3rd game of the season vs Memphis. 2017 the Durbetta collusion season.
Yet, in the Finals Game 6 vs Cleveland the Pampered One was not suspended.
What did he do? I don’t recall anything suspension worthy for curry in any playoff games, let alone finals. Getting suspended in the playoffs is a pretty high bar.
DAF86
12-19-2023, 02:13 PM
If Curry looked like O'Neal or James, the masses would hate him and them far more than they do.
Instead, his overt theatrics and arrogance are spun as "joy" and "showmanship".
Isn't Lebron the most popular player right now, way more than Curry? :lol
TD 21
12-19-2023, 04:09 PM
Isn't Lebron the most popular player right now, way more than Curry? :lol
He's also the most scrutinized at all times.
DAF86
12-19-2023, 05:56 PM
He's also the most scrutinized at all times.
Same shit happens to anyone that is at the top of the mountain. The more recognation you get, the more love you get, the more hate you get too. Specially on this era of social media.
TD 21
12-19-2023, 06:21 PM
Same shit happens to anyone that is at the top of the mountain. The more recognation you get, the more love you get, the more hate you get too. Specially on this era of social media.
Not golden boy, who's joined Bryant as the most media protected players of all time.
DAF86
12-19-2023, 06:28 PM
Not golden boy, who's joined Bryant as the most media protected players of all time.
Kobe used to get shit all the time, for being a chucker and a sociopath. ESPN famously (and correctly) ranked him 12th on their all-time list. It is only after he died that he magically started jumping places and nobody can't say anything negative about him anymore.
And Curry, well, he got robbed off a finals MVP by the media that supposedly adore him.
TD 21
12-20-2023, 07:29 PM
Kobe used to get shit all the time, for being a chucker and a sociopath. ESPN famously (and correctly) ranked him 12th on their all-time list. It is only after he died that he magically started jumping places and nobody can't say anything negative about him anymore.
And Curry, well, he got robbed off a finals MVP by the media that supposedly adore him.
By hardcore fans on the internet. By the national media, he's coddled because he played the game behind the scenes, cultivating relationships with them so that he could control the narrative and they'd mythologize him.
Between 7-9 national media typically vote for that, sometimes it comes down to a split second decision, the Warriors weren't who they become yet and they've spent years profusely apologizing.
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