Wemby wide open lob snub going viral

[Kawhi Duncan]

At least on my social media, everyone is commenting on it, and literally every comment is talking about how low IQ his teammates are, or how they have him... Wemby also has social media and dude is 19... He sees a lot of the same shit we see... Something needs to happen or I fear dude will be out of here the first chance he gets... Pop is washed as a coach... Let's be honest... Dude completely fucked Sohan's career by playing him in the worst possible position you can play him in... Combine that with a generational rookie that can't even develop properly because he has no PG or high IQ teammate to set him up, nor does he have an offense built around him to where he dictates the point of attack and reaction... They're treating him like Shaun Bradley... If this keeps up for longer, he may become very one dimensional and end up having KP as his ceiling instead of a 7'4 KD or Jokic... And the sad part is, with how stubborn and out of touch pop can be... This may endure for years

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So no link, or...

[tbdog]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/18kyzui/poor_wemby/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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[Pauleta14]

tbh it was one of the worst game of the season in terms of "Victor use"

Very frustrating for us so imagine for him...

[james evans]

this basically happens at least twice a game

[ginobilized]

the player in question was Julian Champagnie, let's get real about his capabilities. Not only did he probably not see Victor, he would've had to make an over the shoulder sky hook pass to get the ball high enough.
Luka, Diaw, Bird make that pass, sure. Not many players can, though.

No doubt, teammates miss him more than anyone I've ever seen. I think the mechanics of his height, style and passing angles creates very unique problems. Same thing happened in France. Frustrating, nonetheless.

[BatManu20]

Worst part is we see this at least a couple times every game it feels like.

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[MultiTroll]

but but but the GOAT has us tanking. This is all part of a genius master plan.

[kace]

the player in question was Julian Champagnie, let's get real about his capabilities. Not only did he probably not see Victor, he would've had to make an over the shoulder sky hook pass to get the ball high enough.
Luka, Diaw, Bird make that pass, sure. Not many players can, though.

No doubt, teammates miss him more than anyone I've ever seen. I think the mechanics of his height, style and passing angles creates very unique problems. Same thing happened in France. Frustrating, nonetheless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP8UUY_AKbA

good old times...😢

[SpurSpike]

I saw an article the other day that suggested we could trade Collins, McDermott and Graham for CP3 and Cory Joseph and I don't hate it. CP3's fit with Golden State has been questionable and Collins would fit well with that team. CP3 isn't the long term solution but he would be doing pick and roll lobs to Wemby all game long and would make the games watchable again.

Checked the trade machine and we cant trade Collins this year because of when he signed his extension... too bad.

[z0sa]

:lol people saying you need to be Bird or Magic to make that pass. Wemby is clearly missed many times a game for elementary school passes. Get rid of everyone, team is utter diva useless ball hog trash who would freeze out KAJ to jack up contested twos if this was 80s ball.

[baseline bum]

this basically happens at least twice a quarter

fify

[spursparker9]

PATFO is sure taking note...who have or don't have a future in SA.

[Raven]

this is not a missed pass, zeller was guarding well.

[Tyronn Lue]

This comment

"Call for pass ignored." -2K MyCareer

:lol

[rjv]

the fact that champagnie turned that into a three was besides the point-that moment clearly illustrated why he is not going to be in the league (and likely this roster) for too long.

[KobesAchilles]

This is all on Pop. The coach sets the tone. He STILL hasn't established Wemby as the man. It's ridiculous. When the season first started Pop admitted that he had no idea how he was going to use Wemby. Most people here took that as a positive for some reason but I took it correctly as a negative. If the coach doesn't know how to use your star player, that's an issue.

But if you dig deeper into his words and actions, he basically said that the offense wouldn't go through the kid. That we had to figure him out as a team. But the whole year Pop did nothing to figure him out. What easy baskets are we getting this kid? What designed plays are we consistently running for him. Wemby should be getting 10 wide open points a game easily. In the old days, Pop would've called timeout and cussed out and benched the player who fucked up by not getting the ball to Tim. Now he just smiles and says how proud he is of these mistakes. Pop needs to put the fear of God into these players tbh. You are playing for a roster spot next year. And this team is too stupid to realize it. They don't know about the business aspect of the game yet. They think this shit is acceptable for role players to act

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Wemby needs the Tim treatment. You go 4-down as much as Timmy wants the ball. With Wemby, you work on nothing but getting him the ball whenever and wherever he wants it. The rest of the roster needs to know that their one and only assignment is to serve the king of the Spurs, and that king is Wemby.

The rest of the roster sucks ass and I doubt we'll see any of them on a contending Spurs team other than the king of the Spurs. So serve the king or you're services are no longer required. That should be the message.

[spurraider21]

just need my man Chinook to explain why wemby wasnt actually open here :lol

[Tyronn Lue]

just need my man Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) to explain why wemby wasnt actually open here :lol
The window

[Chinook]

just need my man Chinook to explain why wemby wasnt actually open here :lol

I didn't watch the game live and basically fast-forwarded through to see if they were going to catch up enough to make me watch it. That looks like a back-door cur, which players of every caliber do as part of an offense. Sometimes those passes are made; sometimes they aren't. You can certainly argue that pass should have been made. But I have no idea why Wemby thought that'd be a lob. There was absolutely no room for that. It should've been a bounce pass or maybe a dump-off. It's a wing being guarded by a center. A high angle wasn't there.

Seems pretty clear Champ just didn't see him though.

[slick'81]

Shit really is ridiculous

[itzsoweezee]

A whole roster of players (other than wemby) with low bbiq.

[itzsoweezee]

Let’s not pass to the 7’5” guy guarded by a 5’7” dude. Makers sense

[slick'81]

Let’s not pass to the 7’5” guy guarded by a 5’7” dude. Makers sense

they literally freeze out their best player:rollin

[Extra Stout]

I mean, Champagnie is a marginal NBA player. If this were a one-off, who would care? But Wemby did that because it’s a pattern. And it sucks. This year was supposed to be one where the Spurs figured out who fit with Wemby. The answer to that question might be “nobody.” Which means this is truly a lost year and task at hand is to rebuild the rest of the roster from scratch.

But my frustration is that I totally see some of these players succeeding in other environments. Yes, they collectively on this team have low BBIQ, but I suspect that has a lot to do with disengaged coaching, which portends disaster, because Pop isn’t going anywhere.

[rjv]

I didn't watch the game live and basically fast-forwarded through to see if they were going to catch up enough to make me watch it. That looks like a back-door cur, which players of every caliber do as part of an offense. Sometimes those passes are made; sometimes they aren't. You can certainly argue that pass should have been made. But I have no idea why Wemby thought that'd be a lob. There was absolutely no room for that. It should've been a bounce pass or maybe a dump-off. It's a wing being guarded by a center. A high angle wasn't there.

Seems pretty clear Champ just didn't see him though.

i didn't read it as wemby thinking it was going to be a lob. it looked to me as if wemby was showing frustration and mimed a dunk because he thought that he'd get a dump off pass when he made his cut to the basket.

[slick'81]

Champennie is retarded apparently

[weebo]

This is all on Pop. The coach sets the tone. He STILL hasn't established Wemby as the man. It's ridiculous. When the season first started Pop admitted that he had no idea how he was going to use Wemby. Most people here took that as a positive for some reason but I took it correctly as a negative. If the coach doesn't know how to use your star player, that's an issue.

But if you dig deeper into his words and actions, he basically said that the offense wouldn't go through the kid. That we had to figure him out as a team. But the whole year Pop did nothing to figure him out. What easy baskets are we getting this kid? What designed plays are we consistently running for him. Wemby should be getting 10 wide open points a game easily. In the old days, Pop would've called timeout and cussed out and benched the player who fucked up by not getting the ball to Tim. Now he just smiles and says how proud he is of these mistakes. Pop needs to put the fear of God into these players tbh. You are playing for a roster spot next year. And this team is too stupid to realize it. They don't know about the business aspect of the game yet. They think this shit is acceptable for role players to act

Who on this current roster would you keep?

[weebo]

I mean, Champagnie is a marginal NBA player. If this were a one-off, who would care? But Wemby did that because it’s a pattern. And it sucks. This year was supposed to be one where the Spurs figured out who fit with Wemby. The answer to that question might be “nobody.” Which means this is truly a lost year and task at hand is to rebuild the rest of the roster from scratch.

But my frustration is that I totally see some of these players succeeding in other environments. Yes, they collectively on this team have low BBIQ, but I suspect that has a lot to do with disengaged coaching, which portends disaster, because Pop isn’t going anywhere.

Like I've been saying...this is year 0 of the rebuild. With all the draft picks and cap space in the next couple of years, the Spurs can build a literal team around Wemby.

[tim_duncan_fan]

The subtext of this story is two-fold:

1. The world is watching. We been knew this. Outsiders didn't and don't want Wemby here. We are fucking up the image when image is everything.

2. We are lucky that Wemby sent a message with such a simple motion. Quiet as this message was, everyone around the NBA world still heard it. Future messages could be louder.

[TheBallsbreakers]

Worst part is we see this at least a couple times every game it feels like.

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Good. I'd like for him to illustrate his frustrations more.
I read a lot of feel-good words at Pounding the Rock after the win over the Lakers and one dude kept repeating how "it's not all about Wemby at all" this season and it's equally more about his teammates improving. "We don't have to look for Wemby" every time.
And the game against the Pels was exactly that. Everyone thinking it is all about them too.

WTF

[KobesAchilles]

Who on this current roster would you keep?
With my current troll job of defending Pop since I was bored aside...

First, I have no idea our cap situation or locked up salary. Based on my limited knowledge, it's hard to tell bc I feel we have a lot of people locked up that can help us if they are used properly. For instance our bench unit is set.
Bench: Jones, Collins, Sochan, and Wesley is a nice unit. For the starters only Wemby and Vassell would remain in the starting unit.

I would trade KJ. I like him as a person. Just not as a player. I would sign Gordon Hayward. I've wanted him for years. The dude is just super intelligent and we need that on our team. I would need to look at the cap situation though. Bc obviously we have holes in our roster. I would like to fill those with vets. I think PG13 would be my big fish to go after.

If we get the 2nd pick and the 7th pick this year from Toronto, I would draft a PG and a SF. I would also sign Lowrey for the vet min as a back up or the MLE on Conley.

To Wright's credit. He has put this roster in a very flexible situation and I expect half of the roster to be gone. I just need Pop to get outta his I love these kids mode and be more cutthroat then we are used to being.

[rjv]

i liked hayward way back when he was in boston but he's not the same player-glimpses of what he was now and then and always injured. plus, i think he's too old for this current rebuild.

[weebo]

With my current troll job of defending Pop since I was bored aside...

First, I have no idea our cap situation or locked up salary. Based on my limited knowledge, it's hard to tell bc I feel we have a lot of people locked up that can help us if they are used properly. For instance our bench unit is set.
Bench: Jones, Collins, Sochan, and Wesley is a nice unit. For the starters only Wemby and Vassell would remain in the starting unit.

I would trade KJ. I like him as a person. Just not as a player. I would sign Gordon Hayward. I've wanted him for years. The dude is just super intelligent and we need that on our team. I would need to look at the cap situation though. Bc obviously we have holes in our roster. I would like to fill those with vets. I think PG13 would be my big fish to go after.

If we get the 2nd pick and the 7th pick this year from Toronto, I would draft a PG and a SF. I would also sign Lowrey for the vet min as a back up or the MLE on Conley.

To Wright's credit. He has put this roster in a very flexible situation and I expect half of the roster to be gone. I just need Pop to get outta his I love these kids mode and be more cutthroat then we are used to being.

I can see maybe 2-3 guys who are on the current roster still be here in the next couple of years. To add to that, the Spurs have draft capital and cap space going forward. They should be able to field a good team around Wemby. It's not going to happen over night.

[sammy]

Wemby needs the Tim treatment. You go 4-down as much as Timmy wants the ball. With Wemby, you work on nothing but getting him the ball whenever and wherever he wants it. The rest of the roster needs to know that their one and only assignment is to serve the king of the Spurs, and that king is Wemby.

The rest of the roster sucks ass and I doubt we'll see any of them on a contending Spurs team other than the king of the Spurs. So serve the king or you're services are no longer required. That should be the message.

I agree! The only ones to keep are Vassell, Tre and Osman! Send the rest packing! Completely worthless! All I saw was the ball hog dumbasses like Keldon Johnson running down the lane instead of passing the ball to a wide open Wemby then missing the layup that included Sohan then Champagnie and softness Collins missing a freaking layup! The whole offense needs to be set to Wemby and Wemby only! Everyone needs to know he is the man and everyone else is spare parts! This team does not play defense that's why we keep getting blown out! It's frustrating that we are wasting Wemby's first year with this crap team! Please get a better GM, this one sucks!

[sammy]

I can see maybe 2-3 guys who are on the current roster still be here in the next couple of years. To add to that, the Spurs have draft capital and cap space going forward. They should be able to field a good team around Wemby. It's not going to happen over night.

:bobo

[Spurs Homer]

vassell is the worst offender to be honest - he passed blackhole branham over the last few games -

vassell thinks he is the leader of this team according to his post game interview when he scored 36 pts

every game he gets a vw screen and then as victor is rolling with his hand pointing up -

vassell turns his fucking back on the play and shoots a 40 foot turnaround contested jumper

just watch next game and watch him do it at least 3-4 times per game

[Kawhi Duncan]

the player in question was Julian Champagnie, let's get real about his capabilities. Not only did he probably not see Victor, he would've had to make an over the shoulder sky hook pass to get the ball high enough.
Luka, Diaw, Bird make that pass, sure. Not many players can, though.

No doubt, teammates miss him more than anyone I've ever seen. I think the mechanics of his height, style and passing angles creates very unique problems. Same thing happened in France. Frustrating, nonetheless.

He definitely saw him... Literally faked the pass to him before passing it out

[Jordan Jackson]

Well Trae Young commented on the post that it was an easy lob. I’ll defer to the actual basketball player on this one.

Besides Wemby - roster full of basketball idiots and the entire NBA knows it.

[spurraider21]

Trae young is also probably the best lob passer in the game today

[gambit1990]

cp3 will fix this.

[z0sa]

https://i.redd.it/curious-indeed-v0-s6ik1e9mv37c1.jpeg?c5d6e4c5

:lol let's hear some of y'all spin this ish

[Obstructed_View]

It doesn't matter how good a passer is if they're freezing him out. That's a flat refusal to include him in the offense.

[Obstructed_View]

https://i.redd.it/curious-indeed-v0-s6ik1e9mv37c1.jpeg?c5d6e4c5

:lol let's hear some of y'all spin this ish
That link doesn't work for me.

[z0sa]

^

Here's the main reddit thread with Trae Young post: https://www.reddit.com/r/NBASpurs/comments/18lhd3u/curious_indeed/

[taps]

Wemby needs the Tim treatment. You go 4-down as much as Timmy wants the ball. With Wemby, you work on nothing but getting him the ball whenever and wherever he wants it. The rest of the roster needs to know that their one and only assignment is to serve the king of the Spurs, and that king is Wemby.

So serve the king or your services are no longer required. That should be the message.

During a broadcast this year an announcer referenced a story about Robinson approaching Pop very early in the season and basically telling him “We need to pass the ball to Tim more.” I’m paraphrasing but the gist was, DR immediately recognized that Tim was the king & told Pop pass it to him, don’t pass it to me.
At least that’s what I got out of it.

[KobesAchilles]

You know I hate Trae and think he’s a loser. But man that would a deadly pick n roll. If Trae can put his ego aside and let VW be the number one which I kinda doubt

[itzsoweezee]

During a broadcast this year an announcer referenced a story about Robinson approaching Pop very early in the season and basically telling him “We need to pass the ball to Tim more.” I’m paraphrasing but the gist was, DR immediately recognized that Tim was the king & told Pop pass it to him, don’t pass it to me.
At least that’s what I got out of it.

Sean Elliot subtly complains about it on every single broadcast. Everyone sees it