Spurs vs. Bucks game thread

[TekXX]

How much will they lose by.

[spursparker9]

at least 35 tbh

[SPURt]

If it’s less than 40 I would be stunned. That opening was cringe.

[NASpurs]

Can we start wearing brown paper bags now on our heads? Shit is embarrassing. :lol

[baseline bum]

You guys got balls watching a Spurs game with the franchise in street clothes

[spurs10]

Thinking 40 or so. No Wemby.

[Spurs Brazil]

You know the team is bad when the guy who wasn’t even on the Cavs rotation last year is your 4th best players, maybe 3rd

[spurs10]

You guys got balls watching a Spurs game with the franchise in street clothes Yeah it's unwatchable.

[TekXX]

I voted for Cedi Osman today, me and all of Turkey.

[SPURt]

Interesting Sochan is guarding Giannis and it’s not Giannis killing the Spurs

[SPURt]

Damn Lillard is good at basketball

[Frenchfred]

a good 3-point shooting team against the worst team at defending the three. It is going to be a bloodbath.

[Leetonidas]

Glad I skipped this one

[Frenchfred]

at some point, if the other team keeps shooting three against you and making them, it is not a bad idea to defend the three. How hard is that to understand.

[SPURt]

Keldon looked like he might’ve broke his vaginer on that one

[CorrectCrusader]

Why am I even watching this with no wemby

[SouthernFryd]

Spurs don't have a half-court game...so, they are always pushing the ball, even after a made basket. They simply don't know how to slow down and play half court. Young n dumb

[tim_duncan_fan]

Just queued up the Super Mario movie, tbh. Been meaning to watch it.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Spurs don't have a half-court game...so, they are always pushing the ball, even after a made basket. They simply don't know how to slow down and play half court. Young n dumb

But they don't know how to run fast breaks either

[Frenchfred]

is Vassel going to take the game over and justify his salary?

[CorrectCrusader]

is Vassel going to take the game over and justify his salary?

Buddy is getting locked up by Lillard, fuck our team is so ass I hate this shit

[SouthernFryd]

But they don't know how to run fast breaks either

lol...true dat. But, they know how to run. Just don't know how to run and play basketball at the same time. They simply don't know how to slow down. Like most young kids I guess. They got legs, but undeveloped brains ;)

[Frenchfred]

Buddy is getting locked up by Lillard, fuck our team is so ass I hate this shit

Lillard, the Bruce Bowen of this generation. That's the problem with the losing mentality, players don't give a shit anymore

[SouthernFryd]

Osman's been looking good. that's not saying much on this team, lol

[CorrectCrusader]

Osman's been looking good. that's not saying much on this team, lol

He airballed a layup not 2 minutes ago

[SouthernFryd]

How could a professional team get this bad? They are worse than last year...they're supposed to get better.

[MultiTroll]

Bucks going for 150+ or will they ease up in the 2nd half?

[SouthernFryd]

So? Everyone air balls. Osman's been the best player on the court today...for the Spurs :)

[SouthernFryd]

Pop is just watching the game in disgust...as if he had nothing to do with such horrible play.

[GB20]

This Spurs’s organization has a lot of decisions to make on the upcoming years.

[Brazil]

:lol that’s atrocious

[Spurs Brazil]

Jonhson with 3 turnovers already after 5 last game.

[Frenchfred]

This Spurs’s organization has a lot of decisions to make on the upcoming years.

I feel that they are too many to make. But they'll have to react quickly as Wemby won't stick around if they suck that bad. I hope that their plan is not hoping for high draft pick next year.

[Chinook]

Fronting someone in the post when you don't have help in the back is just bad defense. It's like leaving a shooter open. Teams very rarely front Wemby in the post without help unless it's right at the rim where there isn't room to throw the ball over the top. Not every team is as horrible at defense as the Spurs are. A lot of the shit the Spurs leave open isn't open for them. They have strategies on how to not give up a bunch of dunks when their opponent has a tall player in the paint.

Of course the Spurs should work on running any plays to get good shots at this point. But Sean constantly talking as if there's no difference between the Giannis play and some of those Wemby plays isn't helpful.

[Seventyniner]

That 40 seconds or so after the Mamu missed dunk is some of the sloppiest basketball I've seen in a while, by both teams. And that's saying something since it involved the Spurs.

[Seventyniner]

At first I thought it would take a miracle for the Spurs to hold the Bucks under 130. Now it looks like that number should be 142 or so, unless the Spurs are losing so badly in the 4th that the Bucks step off the gas.

[jeebus]

This Spurs’s organization has a lot of decisions to make on the upcoming years.

Like where in Seattle they want to play, what type of explosives to use on that garbage new training facility, what type of caliber bullet to use to commit suicide after Wemby bails, etc etc.

[SouthernFryd]

It's a miracle we're only down 13

[BatManu20]

Wemby is all of us watching this team play basketball.


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[AusSpur]

Has Pop forgotten what a challenge is again?

Been a while...

[TekXX]

Did the Spurs lay off our challenge ipad guy or does pop not give a fuck anymore

[Extra Stout]

Bucks toy with Spurs, like cat

[jeebus]

Did the Spurs lay off our challenge ipad guy or does pop not give a fuck anymore

Pop decided he needed to get over himself so he got benched.

[Barfunk]

Okay, so another tank. But can we trust the Spurs to take the best talent in the draft available at 1-5, rather than a player who was supposed to go like 20-25? Not so sure.

[SouthernFryd]

Slow...the...F...down!

[spurraider21]

really disappointed we havent even seen a minute of barlow tbh

[paperboy77]

You guys got balls watching a Spurs game with the franchise in street clothes

My exact thoughts! I actually thought that for me this confirms how much of shit show this is that as a die hard Spurs fan, I cannot bring myself to watch w/o Wemby. This team blows the big one.

[SouthernFryd]

Spurs Mentality...from the Coach down.

"I'm a millionaire. I don't need this shit."

[Barfunk]

Still have shot, only down 22.........

[TekXX]

I don't know why Pop stands there like he really wants to win this game. We know you're tanking, stop insulting our intelligence.

[SPURt]

Barlow bringing the I just did a line of coke energy

[SPURt]

Sochan shouldn’t have gotten a tech on that

[Arcadian]

Are the reporters still gonna interview Victor and ask him the same questions even when he doesn't play?

Reporter: Why is your team still bad?

Victor: I mean...we're getting better I think. I mean...we just have to take the right steps.

Reporter: <unintelligible noises>

Victor: I mean, yeah. I don't know, man.

[AusSpur]

Sochan shouldn’t have gotten tech on that

He was just holding his hands in the air while Portis held him and walked him into the crowd. Apparently that is 'illegal contact' too.

NBA refs are the worst.

[SPURt]

He was just holding his hands in the air while Portis held him and walked him into the crowd. Apparently that is 'illegal contact' too.

NBA refs are the worst.
Soft. Now Collins mixing it up with Portis.

[LeBowen]

Right now losing by less than 20 is respectable for this bunch.

[offset formation]

I just cant with Keldon's defense anymore.

Giannis is double teamed and he helps off Dame. WTF?

[SPURt]

That Robin 3 had way better form than I expected :lol

That first quarter was absolutely terrible but after that, they played ok. Not the stinkiest turd in commode.

[Thomas82]

We play the Bucks again on Wemby's birthday, so hopefully he'll be able to play then.

[Seventyniner]

Slow...the...F...down!

This is an important point. Good teams outscore their opponents on a per-possession basis, so in a vacuum a good team should push the pace as much as possible. Of course there are many mitigating factors like player age and conditioning, but in the absence of those considerations the better a team is, the faster they should want to play.

The inverse is true for bad teams: they should want to play as slowly as possible to minimize the total number of possessions in the game so that the absolute margin is likely to be closer, making an upset somewhat more likely. This works better in football, but it still has a place in basketball.

But that only applies if a bad team actually wants to win. One possible component of a tank job is to have a bad team play really fast, which increases the chance that they lose. It can be dressed up as "fast exciting basketball with young players!" but the math doesn't lie.

Notice where the Spurs are in pace: #3 in the league, and #2 last season. #2 is Washington. If every team was trying its hardest to win there should be a positive correlation between per-possession scoring margin and pace, but the (linear) correlation is actually negative due to tanking teams pushing the pace to maximize their chances of losing.

I checked this season's numbers and the correlation between SRS and Pace is -0.236, while last year's was -0.32.

Maybe there would be something of a quadratic relationship, where the best and worst teams play faster than average, but I haven't dug that deep.

[John B]

Soft. Now Collins mixing it up with Portis.

That was retaliation by Collins and quite satisfying

[twodeep]

This is an important point. Good teams outscore their opponents on a per-possession basis, so in a vacuum a good team should push the pace as much as possible. Of course there are many mitigating factors like player age and conditioning, but in the absence of those considerations the better a team is, the faster they should want to play.

The inverse is true for bad teams: they should want to play as slowly as possible to minimize the total number of possessions in the game so that the absolute margin is likely to be closer, making an upset somewhat more likely. This works better in football, but it still has a place in basketball.

But that only applies if a bad team actually wants to win. One possible component of a tank job is to have a bad team play really fast, which increases the chance that they lose. It can be dressed up as "fast exciting basketball with young players!" but the math doesn't lie.

Notice where the Spurs are in pace: #3 in the league, and #2 last season. #2 is Washington. If every team was trying its hardest to win there should be a positive correlation between per-possession scoring margin and pace, but the (linear) correlation is actually negative due to tanking teams pushing the pace to maximize their chances of losing.

I checked this season's numbers and the correlation between SRS and Pace is -0.236, while last year's was -0.32.

Maybe there would be something of a quadratic relationship, where the best and worst teams play faster than average, but I haven't dug that deep.

Make senses kind of interesting basically from a football analogy I seen people look at total point scored but a better metric for a football team on how good the offense is points per drive is a better statistic and has proven out but the talking heads ignore that kind of data.

Make sense the efficiency at which you score is a better tracking for teams that tend to win. I find it kind of interesting on these type of numbers.

[offset formation]

That Robin 3 had way better form than I expected :lol

That first quarter was absolutely terrible but after that, they played ok. Not the stinkiest turd in commode.

I appreciate the optimistic viewpoint, bit I simply strongly disagree. It stunk plenty bad. They gave up 132 pts and I counted at least 10 wide open 3 pointers that didn’t drop for them. That puts them in the 140s if even 3 of those 10 go down. Yet again we were the ones that got bent over and allowed a season high to an opposing player. They easily could have hit 150 tonight. Our defense was beyond pathetic, again. And we lost by nearly 20 or whatever.

There are no, well we were extremely bad in the 1st quarter but managed to only give up 94 points the remaining 3 quarters.

This was supposed to be the year we showed improveddefensively. In fact we're worse when Wemby isn't on the floor now more than 1/4 into the season.

There is no moral victory here, imo.

[offset formation]

To expound on my post above.

Spurs have the second worst point differential in the league, only 0.3 points above a team with a 24 game losing stretch yet we are giving up more points per game than they are. We have the worst Defense based on PPG in the Western Conference and tied for 3rd worst in the NBA.

Tonight's Defensive showing comes on the heels of a game where we gave up 146 points to a mid team by surrendering a franchise best 22 made 3pters to the Pelicans. Night in and Night out, it's just humiliation of ineptitude and incompetence.

There's a reason why I consistently harp on our Defensive woes and it's because we will never be a good basketball team again jntil we stop being a turnstile Defensive group.

And a big reason we are that way currently is because our best players simply do not prioritize it, aside from Wemby.

I see strong effort from Jones, Mamu, Cedi, Barlow, and occasion Sochan among active players (in additionto Wrmby of course). You simply will never have a winning franchise with that being your defensive anchor when only 1 maybe 2 are starters and one is simply too small to actually stop people effectively.

[NASpurs]

If this is truly a player-development, "let's-see-what-we-have" type of year, then all of these mofos outside of Wemby fail :lol

[Jordan Jackson]

Okay, so another tank. But can we trust the Spurs to take the best talent in the draft available at 1-5, rather than a player who was supposed to go like 20-25? Not so sure.
They’ll probably find a way to draft some dude who can’t shoot or defend. But he’s a nice guy and great teammate. Priorities.

[Barfunk]

They’ll probably find a way to draft some dude who can’t shoot or defend. But he’s a nice guy and great teammate. Priorities.

They no longer can rest on their laurels, which is what they've been doing to a great extent, if they want to start fielding out a winning team around our pick and or picks. Oh, and Pop is eventually going to have to start coaching too.

[z0sa]

If this is truly a player-development, "let's-see-what-we-have" type of year, then all of these mofos outside of Wemby fail :lol

Nah, really - get rid of everyone. If literally no one but Wemby is here in 3 years (and we're contending, obv), I'd actually be happy.

[rascal]

Why are the Spurs not playing with their traditional black uniforms and playing with Brown and Orange or Aqua at times?