Game Thread: Spurs @ Mavs — 12/23/2023 — 7:30pm CST

[BatManu20]

Another day, another opportunity to watch our boys not pass the ball to Wemby in a loss.

Let’s get it!


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[BatManu20]

Wemby vs. Lively 2.0 tonight btw.

[BatManu20]

Wemby memes have taken Twitter by storm.

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[Leetonidas]

:lmao those are pretty funny

[LeBowen]

Schrodinger's Branham* was my favorite comment from the other day. :lmao

*Branham was both in the starting and garbage time lineup.

[scott]

What's the fastest any player has achieved a triple double? Luka may do it tonight.

[playblair]

for the posters saying they r not ignoring victor but they simply cant make the passes...........plz explain why they start to make the interior pass when collins comes in for victor......

[freetiago]

Vassel comments after last game.

"Definitely need to score the ball," Vassell said. "Just being a young team, we've got to be able to know each other's strengths. Wemby is (7-foot-5) - we've got to see him. He's down there whether he's posting up or he's sealing early, we got to see him."

Hes probably on social media seeing the hate they get. Let’s see if they change vs one of the worst defensive teams with no big man presence

[Ozzy]

Mavs were missing 5 out of their top 8 players last night: Luka, Kyrie, Lively, Josh Green, Dante Exum. I think only Luka is GTD today. Others should still be out.

[Pauleta14]

Luka is playing

[z0stix]

crap, it's on channel 5, CBS, for us locals but ATT has been saying "Our contract with this station owner has expired" for the past few weeks, any alternatives to this?

[spurraider21]

Schrodinger's Branham* was my favorite comment from the other day. :lmao

*Branham was both in the starting and garbage time lineup.
*takes bow*

[timtonymanu]

Vassel comments after last game.

"Definitely need to score the ball," Vassell said. "Just being a young team, we've got to be able to know each other's strengths. Wemby is (7-foot-5) - we've got to see him. He's down there whether he's posting up or he's sealing early, we got to see him."

Hes probably on social media seeing the hate they get. Let’s see if they change vs one of the worst defensive teams with no big man presence

That’s nice, Devin. But your court vision is still shit.

[TekXX]

They'll be 30 still talking about how they're a young team, naw y'all just ain't good.

[Obstructed_View]

They'll be 30 still talking about how they're a young team, naw y'all just ain't good.
Ugh. Good call. I remember Cuttino Mobley and Steve Francis talking about their young team after losses to the Spurs, who were actually younger.

[baseline bum]

Think I'll just watch Threads again; should be way less depressing.

[Spurs Homer]

Sure hope these morons and Pop see all this internet stuff and it embarrasses every last one of them...

It is not rocket science -

EVERY TIME DOWN THE COURT - RUN THE OFFENSE THRU VW -PERIOD.

It will result in the other team being under pressure the entire game...they double/triple vw -
easy pass for open shots

they dont double - easy dunk for vw

they pass to vw and make cuts - VW will find them -

pop -needs to retire

[LakerHater]

:madrun

[LakerHater]

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[TekXX]

Mavs trying to Zza Zza the franchise.

[itzsoweezee]

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Wtf kind of organization allows that to happen. Spurs staff should be keeping these fools away from their players. This is amateur hour shit

[LeBowen]

Mavs trying to Zza Zza the franchise.

We're lucky Salah Mejri isn't there anymore.

[Spurs Brazil]

Champagnie starting. KJ on the bench.

[Leetonidas]

Yes because Champagnie starting is going to fix everything:lmao

[TekXX]

Can't watch the game because Direct TV and the local CBS are in dispute

[Spurs Brazil]

Wemby on minutes restriction again.

[CorrectCrusader]

Can't watch the game because Direct TV and the local CBS are in dispute

Make your way to the best STREAM of the EAST :wink:

[spursparker9]

Let's surpass 19 straight this time baby!

[z0stix]

Can't watch the game because Direct TV and the local CBS are in dispute

Same here, but 676 works, it's Bally Sports for Mavs broadcast

[buttsR4rebounding]

Wemby on minutes restriction again.

According to the Spurs app he is not starting.

[Spurs Brazil]

Wemby out. Damn

[itzsoweezee]

What a joke

[objective]

Lol Wemby sprains ankle on ball boy in layup line

Franchise in shambles

[Fireball]

going back to bed as Wemby is not playing lol

[buttsR4rebounding]

Wemby out. Damn

Is this because of the incident in warm ups?

[CorrectCrusader]

Wemby apparently stepped on a fucking spurs assistant. This franchise can't help but hurt his ass. I fucking hate this franchise

[Tyronn Lue]

predict the points gap after 1

[LeBowen]

Down by 20 before the half, tbh.

[Tyronn Lue]

Is this because of the incident in warm ups?
He's 7'5 bean pole, he's going to be hurt a lot.

[objective]

Pop doing whatever he can to not start anyone resembling a point guard

Even less aware than ball boys who stand on the baseline but have their eyes on the stands and ignore players and balls

[z0sa]

-_- fire that assistant/ball boy. GET OUT OF THE WAY, MORON

[Tyronn Lue]

Let's each get a turn going 1 on 4 at the rim

[SupremeGuy]

I can't believe this shit. I spent all day talking shit to my friend(Mavs' fan) about Wemby going off tonight. Fuck lol

[Tyronn Lue]

I can't believe this shit. I spent all day talking shit to my friend(Mavs' fan) about Wemby going off tonight. Fuck lol
He probably will go off, off to the locker room or the concession stand.

[spursparker9]

Lol Wemby sprains ankle on ball boy in layup line

Franchise in shambles

I think this is the sign. Zaza v2.0. Maybe he will demand trade in next season

[Splits]

you have got to be fucking kidding me. this clown car franchise can't even hire a competent ball sucker

[objective]

Pop on dolts who don't pay attention to get out of the way of the players :

"That's who we are!"

[z0sa]

I don't even want any of these scrubs to go off. It'll only mean they think they've got the ultra bright green light to ignore Wemby even more when he returns.

Sick of these dogshit teammates and now the ballboy/assistant too.

[cd98]

That guy that he stepped on probably just got fired.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Wemby apparently stepped on a fucking spurs assistant. This franchise can't help but hurt his ass. I fucking hate this franchise

Should immediately fire him and make him find his own way back to San Antonio.

[z0sa]

Spurs no problems finding Collins on the block. Ever. They cut away from him and give him room to operate. You'd think he was our #1 pick franchise player.

[cd98]

Spurs hang close in first half, get outscored 30-5 in the 3rd quarter and then we can all get on with our lives and avoid the 4th quarter.

[Thomas82]

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So this explains why he was held out tonight.

[spursparker9]

That guy that he stepped on probably just got fired.

Don't think so. He is Mavs employee. Not Spurs employee

[Splits]

wtf is wrong with Sochan just randomly picking up his dribble when he has no idea where he's going with it next? Haven't they tried to teach him to keep it until he knows his next move?

[spursparker9]

Is Sochan really 6'8? He look like 6'6 tbh

[objective]

That guy that he stepped on probably just got fired.

Nah, he probably got a nice shoulder rub from Pop and a bonus check like whoever let Wemby wear a misspelled jersey.

From his jersey to no point guard to the layup line, this franchise has zero respect for Wemby

[FkLA]

When did Donutcic start wearing that fruity ass headband? :lol

[cd98]

Don't think so. He is Mavs employee. Not Spurs employee

Hmmm Mav guy. Did Wemby just get Zazaed?

[slick'81]

Atleast the rest of the spurs dont have to worry about passing wemby the damn basketball

[SpursFan86]

Sochan has obviously been pretty frustrating this year but the one positive development has been the improved 3 point shot.

[cd98]

Luka can find people that he can't even see and yet no one on the Spurs can get the ball to Wemby?

[Tyronn Lue]

Victor walked over to the guy and stepped on his foot. This is on Victor.

[Tyronn Lue]

Luka can find people that he can't even see and yet no one on the Spurs can get the ball to Wemby?
Spurs cannot hand the ball to each other.

[Spurs Brazil]

Mavs completly ignore Jones and our space is gone with him on the court. KJ is terrible in those early minutes

[spursparker9]

Luka can find people that he can't even see and yet no one on the Spurs can get the ball to Wemby?

Luka is MVP caliber player.

Spurs starters are not even starters level at other teams tbh. :lol Maybe they are starters at G-league

[Leetonidas]

Spurs laying bricks per par

[itzsoweezee]

Victor walked over to the guy and stepped on his foot. This is on Victor.

The fuck are you talking about? Ball boys need to stay the fuck out of the way of players. That is a fundamental part of their job

[SpursFan86]

Our offense is just so pathetic.

[Spurs Brazil]

The Jones-Johnson combo is killing us.

[z0sa]

If only Tre had a 3 point shot.

[Tyronn Lue]

The fuck are you talking about? Ball boys need to stay the fuck out of the way of players. That is a fundamental part of their job
Dude was out of bounds on the other side of the court :lol It's not like he stuck his foot out. Victor isn't a child.

[Splits]

Don't think so. He is Mavs employee. Not Spurs employee

First JFK, now Wemby. Fucking Dallas

[SpurSpike]

crap, it's on channel 5, CBS, for us locals but ATT has been saying "Our contract with this station owner has expired" for the past few weeks, any alternatives to this?

Kens 5 is streaming it if your local.

https://www.kens5.com/article/features/kens-club/san-antonio-spurs-game-live-stream-kens-5-official-station/273-a1ba8ff8-f157-4e14-b010-e8f1739e99c9

[Thomas82]

According to Pop, Wemby would have been on a minutes restriction again tonight if he played. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't play on Tuesday either.

[Tyronn Lue]

Be funny if Victor missed a few games and the Spurs went on a 5 game streak

[z0sa]

Be funny if Victor missed a few games and the Spurs went on a 5 game streak

Wouldn't surprise me at all. They play like normal basketball players when he's not on the floor. it's clear they feel a lot more comfortable with mostly everyone at the same (bottom of the league) skill level so they can freestyle and do their thing without any pressure.

seems counterintuitive, but clear sign of a roster full of losers. No desire for discipline, little mental toughness.

[scott]

They missed Sochan for the lob… how does it feel, Jeremy? :lol

[Spurs Brazil]

Jones in the game and the Mavs start their run. Jones is terrible. Can’t shoot, can’t defend and now he can’t even take care of the ball

[Tyronn Lue]

Jesus that's tragic Sochan

[spursparker9]

:lol Vassell could have knock out Pop just now

[CorrectCrusader]

According to Pop, Wemby would have been on a minutes restriction again tonight if he played. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't play on Tuesday either.

He fucking better, I'm going to that game.

[Thomas82]

He fucking better, I'm going to that game.

I hope so too, but it's Pop we're talking about.

[z0sa]

typical 3rd quarter meltdown. No Victor required

[CGD]

Wait is this the same Exum drafted by Jazz years ago? Dude is good. Where has he been?

[Barfunk]

Pop probably giddy af right now. Both a loss and being able to sit Wemby? Pfffft, that's a party.

[Barfunk]

Pistons lose 26th straight. I think ties the 2011 Cavs for most in single season.

[Spurs Brazil]

Johnson playing terrible D and shooting 100 triples. Vassel also terrible.

[z0sa]

Done. First half proves these guys can play normal NBA basketball, they just don't have the discipline, focus, or self-esteem to do it. They are clearly intimidated by Victor. No question there

[mudd]

At what point is pop embarrassed at the product he is putting on the floor? Geez

[Spurs Brazil]

Look this lineup. 4 guys who can’t shoot :lol

[Dex]

I just stop paying attention during third quarters, and sure enough we are down 30 again

[Chomag]

*sigh* can we get a new coach already?

[PhantomDashCam]

How are players meant to improve when you’re playing 4 of your 5 on the floor out of position?

And Tre Jones is the guy you’re basing that around?

[Neo.]

LMAO spurs

[Chomag]

I don't care what the sniffers say. No decent coach would let their team play this way.

Even Sean Elliott is starting to lose it.

[TheGreatYacht]

CIA Poop has lost this team. They’re just thinking about Cancun. Zero effort defensively

If this was any other coach…

[Dex]

We seriously look like a GLeague team. And not just based on talent, but fundamentals.

Don't box out on rebounds, don't close out on shooters, don't stop the ball in transition....And the teams idea of offense is barrel into the lane and then hope for the best.

[Chomag]

I'm sorry but this is the grossest basketball I have ever seen played on a professional level

[bbarry]

this is the ugliest basketball i've seen from the spurs in the past several years. they play with no fire whatsoever, horrible defensive effort, bricking shots all over the place, and just look confused and have no idea what to do on either side of the court.

[z0sa]

Down 6 at the beginning of the third.

Don't forget.

[Neo.]

the fact that spurfan get so mad and cant realize this season is a blatant tank job

its pops specialty. got the spurs 5 rings. looking for another 5.

[PhantomDashCam]

We seriously look like a GLeague team. And not just based on talent, but fundamentals.

Don't box out on rebounds, don't close out on shooters, don't stop the ball in transition....And the teams idea of offense is barrel into the lane and then hope for the best.

This is what disturbs me the most tbh. We started to see it during the DDR and LMA years. Players seemed to be guaranteed minutes now irrespective of effort, decision making…

[Chomag]

I wouldn't blame Wemby if he didn't want to come back to this team

[z0sa]

the fact that spurfan get so mad and cant realize this season is a blatant tank job

its pops specialty. got the spurs 5 rings. looking for another 5.

difference between tanking and sucking

Spurs suck right now, aren't tanking. Tanking may have been the goal, but a purposeful effort to lose isn't required at this point

[CorrectCrusader]

the fact that spurfan get so mad and cant realize this season is a blatant tank job

its pops specialty. got the spurs 5 rings. looking for another 5.

Players don't tank, front offices do. If pop is indeed tanking, he'd be doing it by taking players out of games at important times, not teaching players how to play basketball incorrectly. These players have ZERO CLUE how to play basketball, that's not tanking, that's our team being TERRIBLE.

[mudd]

At what point do the fans get their money back?

[Chomag]

Have you guys been seeing social media lately? Spurs are becoming the joke of the league

[spursparker9]

Can someone borrow the paper bag writing sell the team from detroit and wear it on next home game?

[TheGreatYacht]

the fact that spurfan get so mad and cant realize this season is a blatant tank job

its pops specialty. got the spurs 5 rings. looking for another 5.
It’s almost 2024 and Popsuckers are still running this CIA Poop schtick :lol He’s not a retard by design, bud.

[NASpurs]

Tanking in a weak draft :lol

[PhantomDashCam]

Blake Wesley and Manu playing like guys that wants it. Deserve minutes from some of the entitled.

[Neo.]

difference between tanking and sucking

Spurs suck right now, aren't tanking. Tanking may have been the goal, but a purposeful effort to lose isn't required at this point


Players don't tank, front offices do. If pop is indeed tanking, he'd be doing it by taking players out of games at important times, not teaching players how to play basketball incorrectly. These players have ZERO CLUE how to play basketball, that's not tanking, that's our team being TERRIBLE.

its pretty clear by pops lineups that winning isnt that important.

the players worth keeping will reveal themselves. most of them arent worth keeping.

its a crap team with a coach who knows tanking is the best option.

[TekXX]

Y'all thought we brought these losers back to coach them up to win? No we're tanking of course, Pop knows he had G-league players to start the season.

[Mikeanaro]

Lol, latin commentators are talking about Pop, if he is the right guy to continue rebuilding this team.

[Neo.]

It’s almost 2024 and Popsuckers are still running this CIA Poop schtick :lol He’s not a retard by design, bud.

not a spurfan at all. its an unbiased outsiders opinion. every game i see, it could not be more obvious pop doesnt give a crap about winning.

[z0sa]

Lol, latin commentators are talking about Pop, if he is the right guy to continue rebuilding this team.

Reality


Y'all thought we brought these losers back to coach them up to win? No we're tanking of course, Pop knows he had G-league players to start the season.

Fantasy (which I genuinely with all my heart hope comes true)

[Chomag]

The NBA is going to find a way to yank Wemby from us

[TheGreatYacht]

not a spurfan at all. it’s an unbiased outsiders opinion. every game i see, it could not be more obvious pop doesnt give a crap about winning.
You’re talking about a guy that used to start Bryn Forbes religiously before we started tanking. His brain is literally gravy. He’s no different than Jerry Sloan in his final years. He’s an outdated mummy in a league that has perfectionists like Spoelstra in it.

[NASpurs]

You’re talking about a guy that used to start Bryn Forbes religiously before we started tanking. His brain is literally gravy. He’s no different than Jerry Sloan in his final years. He’s an outdated mummy in a league that has perfectionists like Spoelstra in it.

You forgot he rode the coattails of a top ten player of all time. Even a monkey coaching could win five rings.

[Dex]

You forgot he rode the coattails of a top ten player of all time. Even a monkey coaching could win five rings.

He convinced Tim to stay in San Antonio his entire career, so you have to give him credit for that.

We can only hope that is the case for Wemby in the coming years, but the product on the floor is getting really hard to watch.

[TDomination]

Has anyone taken paper bags to wear over heads home games yet?
have there been any signs from fans stating a message of displeasure?

im just curious. I feel like it’s gonna happen pretty soon

[Barfunk]

:pop: Oh, you want a win? Here, here's a win, hold this: Another L.

[Mikeanaro]

144 points because Luka left the game early, if not it would have been like 170 points.
:pctoss

[SPURt]

144 points because Luka left the game early, if not it would have been like 170 points.
:pctoss
This. That was a tough watch. Vassell disappearing again, so freaking frustrating.

[spurs1990]

Would’ve been loss 23 in a row if lakers didn’t lay down last week

[z0sa]

Vassell 3-13. This should be the game he steps up and wrecks house. "Time to prove I'm worth that contract!!"

Egg subsequently laid.

[spursparker9]

He convinced Tim to stay in San Antonio his entire career, so you have to give him credit for that.

We can only hope that is the case for Wemby in the coming years, but the product on the floor is getting really hard to watch.

I remember D-Rob also talked to Timmy to convince him. There was also help from Doc Rivers refusing Timmy's request to let family members on board team plane.

Hopefully Sochan would be able to talk to Wemby and convince him to stay too.

:lol

[z0sa]

I remember D-Rob also talked to Timmy to convince him. There was also help from Doc Rivers refusing Timmy's request to let family members on board team plane.

Hopefully Sochan would be able to talk to Wemby and convince him to stay too.

:lol

That's what I always heard as the deal breaker. Thanks Amy!

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144 points because Luka left the game early, if not it would have been like 170 points.
:pctoss

It's fucking pathetic.

[poopbox]

Tanking in a weak draft :lol

To "get a pg" where literally every team they are "tanking" with has a poing guard so its not like anyone but the spurs would take one anyway :lmao

Heaven forbid portland have a worse record than us they might "take a pg" ahead of us like they didn't just draft Scoot. :rollin

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72 + 72 = 144. Equally atrocious halves of ineptitude.

It will always be our defense until this roster has an overhaul.

[Tyronn Lue]

We seriously look like a GLeague team. And not just based on talent, but fundamentals.

Don't box out on rebounds, don't close out on shooters, don't stop the ball in transition....And the teams idea of offense is barrel into the lane and then hope for the best.
If you look at advanced stats for the entire league over the past 10 years, boxing out has all but vanished. A few years ago the average number of boxouts for a team would be about 26 per game, now it's like 7.

[CGD]

It’s pretty bad if Blake Wesley can’t get consistent playing time on this team. Dude is not getting his option picked up next year.

[BackHome]

Blake was terrible last year I am Ok giving him a few minutes but most of his time needs to be in G League woking on his handles, 3 ball, finishing at the rim.

[BackHome]

Have you guys been seeing social media lately? Spurs are becoming the joke of the league

Detroit is taking mot of the heat thanks to them being even worse then us.

[PhantomDashCam]

https://youtu.be/eDImPbbuCWk?si=TnthukddKxt8cuRI

Reporter: “Keldon with the second unit, what was the reason for that?”
Pop: “Because we chose to.”

[spursparker9]

https://youtu.be/eDImPbbuCWk?si=TnthukddKxt8cuRI

Reporter: “Keldon with the second unit, what was the reason for that?”
Pop: “Because we chose to.”

:lol

Only Pop can get away with this kind of replies.

[Mugen]

What an absolute amateur franchise. Jesus christ, this entire city and organization owes their entire existence to Timmy :lol

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What an absolute amateur franchise. Jesus christ, this entire city and organization owes their entire existence to Timmy :lol

Quite amazing how accurate this is. Now Manu and Tony were dogs and David was a franchise player and top 50 player of all time, but anyone with any sort of discernment knows Timmy was the magic piece. A franchise's once in a lifetime player. And in our case, it went far beyond his on court skills to his willingness to take less money, not to be the nightly top scorer that was concerned with stats, willing to be coached, unassuming, etc. We were so lucky.

Then Father Time and Uncle Dennis fucked us all.

[Dex]

:lol

Only Pop can get away with this kind of replies.

I was fine with this schtick when we were winning, but at 4-24 it's getting kinda old

[Leetonidas]

https://youtu.be/eDImPbbuCWk?si=TnthukddKxt8cuRI

Reporter: “Keldon with the second unit, what was the reason for that?”
Pop: “Because we chose to.”

Fucking inept dickhead. Retire already. His schtick is beyond played out especially when your team and coaching is fucking atrocious

[Tyronn Lue]

:pop: "show some class"

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Have you guys been seeing social media lately? Spurs are becoming the joke of the league

lmao stop being a bitch please

[LeBowen]

Fucking inept dickhead. Retire already. His schtick is beyond played out especially when your team and coaching is fucking atrocious

He's so lucky Pistons are trash and Lakers threw that one game.
1-22 streak isn't much different than 25 game losing streak.
Detroit made way more roster changes and changed their entire coaching staff.

[scott]

https://youtu.be/eDImPbbuCWk?si=TnthukddKxt8cuRI

Reporter: “Keldon with the second unit, what was the reason for that?”
Pop: “Because we chose to.”

This is the same dude that wants fans to stop booing opposing players?

This shit is tired. Retire already.

[spurs10]

This game was unwatchable and a pathetic display of lameness. When you are outscored by 25 in the third quarter, routinely, it's time for a change. Devin was horrible and doesn't play defence. Not that they have much choice, but waiting another year in hopes that the lottery saves you is not going to get folks filling the seats. I keep watching, but not much after the first half because I know what's coming.