View Full Version : Game Thread: Spurs vs. Jazz 12/26/2023 7:00 PM CST
TXstbobcat
12-26-2023, 05:19 PM
Jazz -3.5
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 05:54 PM
Spurs by 20+ tbh
baseline bum
12-26-2023, 05:57 PM
Woah is Wemby playing for Utah to only be -3.5?
CorrectCrusader
12-26-2023, 06:03 PM
Going to the game. Victor Wembanyama franchise game time
exstatic
12-26-2023, 06:11 PM
GSG
SpursWoman
12-26-2023, 06:16 PM
:flag:
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 06:32 PM
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John B
12-26-2023, 06:35 PM
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Keldon playing the Manu-role could be good spreading the touches. I like them to win, but I rather they get top draft pick and help convey the TOR pick.
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 06:49 PM
:wow
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freetiago
12-26-2023, 07:01 PM
Johnson can’t do anything without the ball. Problem is he isn’t good enough to be a primary ball handler. Can’t punish teams who go under screens and give him drop coverage. He just runs into them and yells AY hoping he gets a foul call. Unless he develops at least a reliable mid range shot he’s going to be a bench player at best. Took this moron coach king enough to see it.
Leetonidas
12-26-2023, 07:26 PM
Pop pulling the one coaching move he knows and benching a starter :lmao
Get a PG or start Jones? Nah, this Keldon off the bench thing is the change that's gonna unlock this team! :lmao :lmao fucking imbecile
Splits
12-26-2023, 07:28 PM
Keldon == Manu 2.0
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 07:29 PM
johnson to the bench felt like an inevitability long term, but only when we got the starter who would cause keldon to get bumped, like OG or Risacher or somethin. i dont think champagnie is good enough yet, but lord knows the bench has been getting annihilated this year and keldon should be able to feast on opposing benches.
if pop benched branham for a point guard that would be the next obvious move to make
onechance87
12-26-2023, 07:30 PM
get graham to start....Decent shooter and passer....im done with tre and branham
Extra Stout
12-26-2023, 07:31 PM
It’s well and good to bench Johnson, but Branham and Champagnie are not NBA players. On the other hand, the Spurs with their roster have a hard time putting 5 NBA players on the floor regardless.
poopbox
12-26-2023, 07:52 PM
Keldon getting sent to the gulag for fucking Champagnie is a perfect example of Pop as a coach tbh :lol
LeBowen
12-26-2023, 07:52 PM
I don't think any player with enough quality to start should be coming off the bench unless he's a creator on a team that already has enough creation.
Why not just stagger minutes so Keldon plays when Devin is off the floor?
Splits
12-26-2023, 07:57 PM
Coming off the bench and taking advantage of shithole players can make an average guy look like a HoFer. Exhibit A:
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itzsoweezee
12-26-2023, 07:58 PM
Keldon is a natural bench player, so not mad at that. Champagnie better make some shots Otherwise, starting him over jones is absurd
spursparker9
12-26-2023, 08:05 PM
15 points loss. calling it first
Splits
12-26-2023, 08:06 PM
so far so good, no ball bois undercutting VW
Splits
12-26-2023, 08:07 PM
USA USA
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Tranny singing the anthem is a good sign
SpursFan86
12-26-2023, 08:12 PM
That pass by Victor was filthy
LeBowen
12-26-2023, 08:15 PM
Here we go again. Solid start which will inevitably be ruined in third quarter.
Splits
12-26-2023, 08:17 PM
Spurs got this ish. Champ is flashing back to summer league.
TekXX
12-26-2023, 08:22 PM
Pop raging at the official like a mad man, is that who we are? Ok yea that's him.
poopbox
12-26-2023, 08:22 PM
Pop actually upset about something that happened in the game and giving it to the refs :wow
spursparker9
12-26-2023, 08:22 PM
Spurs got this ish. Champ is flashing back to summer league.
Spurs got this in most 1st Quarter. Then they don't got this by 3rd Quarter ends
Leetonidas
12-26-2023, 08:23 PM
Still subbing Victor out 6 mins into the game :lol
Splits
12-26-2023, 08:23 PM
Damn, Jizz defense makes the Spurs look respectable.
Pauleta14
12-26-2023, 08:23 PM
Pop getting angry.... finally!
onechance87
12-26-2023, 08:24 PM
weak ass d from the spurs right there
Splits
12-26-2023, 08:25 PM
Still subbing Victor out 6 mins into the game :lol
"they" put him on a minute restriction :pop:
TekXX
12-26-2023, 08:27 PM
Why wasn't pop pissed about the hundreds of hours of shit basketball we've seen from the Spurs so far? I'm guessing he didn't expect them to embarass him this badly so now he finally has to coach.
Splits
12-26-2023, 08:27 PM
no way we can blow a 13pt lead
poopbox
12-26-2023, 08:29 PM
Kessler out here looking like shaq
r0drig0lac
12-26-2023, 08:29 PM
fucking scrub Zach
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 08:31 PM
:lol Collins really sucks the air out of the Spurs' sails when he checks in
SpursFan86
12-26-2023, 08:34 PM
Our offense is so fucking awful :lol Just such inconsistent shooting…guys bricking wide open shots left and right
SPURt
12-26-2023, 08:34 PM
Collins playing like absolute trash. Barlow is over there in street clothes :depressed
onechance87
12-26-2023, 08:35 PM
keldon lol
Spurs Brazil
12-26-2023, 08:35 PM
KJ terrible again. As soon as he enters the game our D get worst. And on offense he’s taking dumb shots
poopbox
12-26-2023, 08:36 PM
Spurs were playing pretty good then Collins, Keldon, and Tre checked it and ruined it.
Mugen
12-26-2023, 08:36 PM
Such garbage with zero improvement over 1/3 of the season.
TekXX
12-26-2023, 08:37 PM
Ok Keldon you see Markkanen and their center there, don't try to go over them, so something else.
Mugen
12-26-2023, 08:38 PM
Such a trash head coach, literally the worst in sports and this dumb ass organization extended him lol
SpurSpike
12-26-2023, 08:38 PM
Maybe if we had Victor playing more the Jazz wouldn't be making this run with their bigs.
Spurs Brazil
12-26-2023, 08:39 PM
Jones playing defense is a joke.
onechance87
12-26-2023, 08:40 PM
tre jones cant guard nobody lol
SpurSpike
12-26-2023, 08:40 PM
Please let this be the game were things start to click and we get out of the expectation that Spurs lose every game...
onechance87
12-26-2023, 08:42 PM
im ready to give wesley a chance over tre jones
tbdog
12-26-2023, 08:45 PM
Oh so marginal contact is a rule now?
TekXX
12-26-2023, 08:46 PM
Wemby you're right there, just shoot it, they don't all have to be threes
Splits
12-26-2023, 08:48 PM
00 Rick James playing for the Jizz.
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Devi8or
12-26-2023, 08:51 PM
Doing a lot better job feeding the ball down low to Victor so far today
TekXX
12-26-2023, 08:51 PM
Am i witnessing Wemby score in the paint like he should?
poopbox
12-26-2023, 08:52 PM
we got all our worst defenders on the floor at once. Nice going Pop.
Mugen
12-26-2023, 08:52 PM
Wemby gets a 3pt play and Pop immediately called for Zollins to sub in. Absolutely disgusting.
SpurSpike
12-26-2023, 08:53 PM
Victor isn't going to play more that 6 minutes a quarter is he?
onechance87
12-26-2023, 08:53 PM
pops rotation on mins is terrible
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 08:54 PM
:lmao they throw lobs for Vassell but not Wemby
Mugen
12-26-2023, 08:55 PM
Please force yourself to a real organization, Wemby
Splits
12-26-2023, 08:56 PM
Need Chinook to explain to me how all these lobs are possible.
onechance87
12-26-2023, 08:56 PM
jump branham wtf
spursparker9
12-26-2023, 08:57 PM
:lmao they throw lobs for Vassell but not Wemby
Rookie haven't earn his due to receive lobs. :lol
Splits
12-26-2023, 08:57 PM
Victor isn't going to play more that 6 minutes a quarter is he?
:pop: "they" put him on a minute restriction
djohn2oo8
12-26-2023, 08:57 PM
:lmao they throw lobs for Vassell but not Wemby
:lol yeah Pop definitely gotta go
Mugen
12-26-2023, 09:01 PM
Minutes restriction is such a bullshit excuse, not believing it for a sec
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 09:01 PM
This game going like basically every game this season tbh. How much do the Spurs get outscored by in the third quarter tonight? My bet is 19 points imo.
Victor isn't going to play more that 6 minutes a quarter is he?
He's averaging 30 MPG as a rookie and a giant. I think that's fine while he gets used to the NBA schedule
This game going like basically every game this season tbh. How much do the Spurs get outscored by in the third quarter tonight? My bet is 19 points imo.
I'll take the under but only because it is the Jazz
Joseph Kony
12-26-2023, 09:02 PM
god damn Collins is such a piece of shit on defense
Joseph Kony
12-26-2023, 09:03 PM
:lmao this midget lineup
Splits
12-26-2023, 09:04 PM
Jones defense not terrible so far
Thomas82
12-26-2023, 09:07 PM
Wemby gets a 3pt play and Pop immediately called for Zollins to sub in. Absolutely disgusting.
Yeah, that's frustrating as hell.
r0drig0lac
12-26-2023, 09:07 PM
jeremy buckets
Mugen
12-26-2023, 09:07 PM
Literal trash lineups
I've been a Sochan hater so far (mostly because he is NOT A POINT GUARD) but his three-point shot is actually improving so that's good
Spurs Brazil
12-26-2023, 09:08 PM
Jones can’t play any D and can’t shoot. The only good news is he just have one more year on his contract.
Splits
12-26-2023, 09:08 PM
No problem, we own the 3rd quarter. Pop is the master of half time adjustments.
weebo
12-26-2023, 09:09 PM
:lol yeah Pop definitely gotta go
KJ back on the texans homie
onechance87
12-26-2023, 09:09 PM
Jones defense not terrible so far
are u even watching the game
Kawhi Duncan
12-26-2023, 09:10 PM
Why is Wemby playing the least minutes out of all the starters? Sabotaging his career... Literally the worst coach Wemby could have gotten
onechance87
12-26-2023, 09:14 PM
Why is Wemby playing the least minutes out of all the starters? Sabotaging his career... Literally the worst coach Wemby could have gotten
yup im sure wemby not happy being treated like a baby
playbonner15
12-26-2023, 09:14 PM
LOL Sochan shitting on Spurstalk
Rocalcio
12-26-2023, 09:17 PM
Why is Wemby playing the least minutes out of all the starters? Sabotaging his career... Literally the worst coach Wemby could have gotten
The kid is coming back from injury, that was expected
Chinook
12-26-2023, 09:20 PM
Need Chinook (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) to explain to me how all these lobs are possible.
You mean like the lob to Vassell? So that was there because Collins and Devin communicated it before the cut. A similar thing happened when Wemby got his lob off that Robinson spin move. A while back I made a post going into how teams like the Lob City Clippers and Chandler Knicks did to get their oop passes. Basically you need the receiver to coordinate with the passer to sync up their actions and create a window. A big who goes too early is going to be covered back up by the time the pass gets there. That's why a guy like Robinson hung out in the dunker spot then made his move at the right time to get the ball rather than just demanding it all the time (especially when he was young) Off-ball movement in the paint requires timing because of three-seconds calls. They can literally communicate the action like Collins and Vassell and Vassell and Wemby did or they can have a refined enough offense to where certain actions are keyed based on the defense. What you don't usually see is a big manufacture a lob in a set offense. That's true for the role-players who are normally the recipents of lobs and the star bigs who had them as part of their offense.
I hope people realize now that the Spurs players actually do know how to throw the pass though. It's funny that instead of wondering if there was anything different about these successful lobs versus the lobs that aren't being thrown to Wemby, folks are still trying to dig deeper into conspiracy. Wemby is raw. A lot of things he does on the court are wrong. That's completely normal. What's unhealthy for him is to pretend that he's a vet superstar who doesn't need coaching and structure to grow within. He needs to be put into good positions and develop reliable offense before trying to defer to him on all this stuff. It's like how most rookie QBs aren't calling their own plays or even their own audibles/protection shifts.
Joseph Kony
12-26-2023, 09:24 PM
:lmao predictable beginning to the 3rd. this team is a joke
SpursFan86
12-26-2023, 09:25 PM
Has anyone seen some historical context around our 3rd quarter play this year? I feel like we have to be one of the worst 3rd quarter teams in recent memory :lol Would love to know how much we’re getting outscored by
onechance87
12-26-2023, 09:25 PM
branham needs to be cut by tonight
PhantomDashCam
12-26-2023, 09:26 PM
Like clockwork… Show some backbone ye shits.
:pop: “That’s not who we are…”
spurs10
12-26-2023, 09:29 PM
What the hell is going on during halftime? Turn my head and 4 is 11.
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 09:30 PM
:lol this team blows like a seasoned prostitute
SpursFan86
12-26-2023, 09:31 PM
3 missed layups in a row :lmao
TekXX
12-26-2023, 09:31 PM
These halftime speeches by Pop must be amazing.
onechance87
12-26-2023, 09:32 PM
lmao tre is so bad....him and branham dont belong in the nba
Joseph Kony
12-26-2023, 09:33 PM
What the hell is going on during halftime? Turn my head and 4 is 11.
team has completely tuned Pop out imho
Blizzardwizard
12-26-2023, 09:33 PM
Watching the Pistons game... Cade Cunningham just had a 37-point half.
There's no way these guys beat Detroit. Cade might go for 60+ and Bojan Bogdanovic is a notorious Spurs Killer (who isn't these days I guess).
Kawhi Duncan
12-26-2023, 09:37 PM
The kid is coming back from injury, that was expected
For one, he wasn't injured... He wanted to play, but Pop kept him out as a precaution... Secondly, let's not pretend as if Pop has t been doing this all season
Kawhi Duncan
12-26-2023, 09:39 PM
I think ppl simply watch Jones' height and assume he is bad on defense when it's not the case... Dude was DPOY in college... Sohan gets washed on D all the time, but because he is tall, it doesn't register to people how bad he actually is...
Joseph Kony
12-26-2023, 09:42 PM
:lol Kessler clobbered Johnson on that dunk and no call??
SpursFan86
12-26-2023, 09:42 PM
Please get Clarkson the fuck outta here
Kawhi Duncan
12-26-2023, 09:43 PM
Wesley should be our starting PG until we get someone better... I've always thought he was better than Branam
spursparker9
12-26-2023, 09:46 PM
:lol Kessler clobbered Johnson on that dunk and no call??
Marginal contact :lol
Blizzardwizard
12-26-2023, 09:48 PM
Did Collins just block his own teammate at the rim twice?
I'm not even mad. That was amazing.
Chinook
12-26-2023, 09:48 PM
I think ppl simply watch Jones' height and assume he is bad on defense when it's not the case... Dude was DPOY in college... Sohan gets washed on D all the time, but because he is tall, it doesn't register to people how bad he actually is...
I think it's because in an ideal world, Jones would be the weak link of the Spurs because of his size. The problem is that the Spurs are nowhere near that ideal case, and Jones is probably their most sound defender. Most defense is played with a player's feet. It's how you move and where you are, not really how high you can reach. Jones isn't perfect, but he's the only guy playing above-average in those metrics. A better-coached team would have or be playing multiple guys with that level of defensive understanding. Then they could worry about Jones' size. Right now, that's not limiting the team.
Joseph Kony
12-26-2023, 09:49 PM
wide open 3 after wide open 3 after wide open 3 :lmao
Kawhi Duncan
12-26-2023, 09:50 PM
Our players always overhelp and give up wide open threes... And Pop refuses to change... Dude is so stubborn... This isn't 2003 anymore... You WILL be beat by the three point line
SpursFan86
12-26-2023, 09:50 PM
Damn. Felt like we threw everything we had at them and still down 7 going into the 4th. Just couldn’t get stops
Spurs Brazil
12-26-2023, 09:51 PM
Very nice minutes for Wesley. Too bad the rest of that lineup don’t play any D
Degoat
12-26-2023, 09:51 PM
Giving up 100 points thru 3 quarters we suck defensively so bad
Splits
12-26-2023, 09:52 PM
If VW got that Collins nosebleed, he'd be out for the next 5 games and on a minutes restriction for the season
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 09:53 PM
Wesley holding his own tbh
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 09:56 PM
:lol of course Wesley can't hit his freebies either
R. DeMurre
12-26-2023, 09:57 PM
Markkanen is so good. It's crazy that some people are still viewing him with scouting reports from 2021.
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 09:57 PM
"breaking down defensive mistakes" guy gonna have a field day with this one
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 09:58 PM
:lol Wemby's conditioning has somehow gotten worse as the season's progressed
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 09:58 PM
Markkanen is so good. It's crazy that some people are still viewing him with scouting reports from 2021.
he's awesome. he's what ST was hoping Samanic would be
and he was more or less salary filler in the Mitchell trade :lol
Kawhi Duncan
12-26-2023, 09:58 PM
Wemby playing soft, low IQ basketball
tbdog
12-26-2023, 09:58 PM
Wemby not playing well. Looks slow or injured.
Degoat
12-26-2023, 09:58 PM
This entire team is ass, wemby under performing in his last couple games. Every team has so much more talent then the spurs do it’s funny
Thomas82
12-26-2023, 09:58 PM
Here we go subbing Wemby early as hell again. SMH
Kawhi Duncan
12-26-2023, 09:59 PM
:lol Wemby's conditioning has somehow gotten worse as the season's progressed
With the way Pop has been babying him lately, it's expected... Dude has barely played lately
SpurSpike
12-26-2023, 09:59 PM
Crowd booing pop for taking Victor out. He looked gassed though tbh.
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 09:59 PM
Here we go subbing Wemby early as hell again. SMH
He's completely gassed and was playing like crap because of it.
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 10:00 PM
This entire team is ass, wemby under performing in his last couple games. Every team has so much more talent then the spurs do it’s funny
Brian Wrong tbh
SpursFan86
12-26-2023, 10:01 PM
Clarkson legitimately looking like a fucking all-NBA caliber player against us :lol Nothing to do but laugh at it.
Thomas82
12-26-2023, 10:02 PM
With this minutes restriction, I assume Wemby is done for the night.
Rocalcio
12-26-2023, 10:03 PM
For one, he wasn't injured... He wanted to play, but Pop kept him out as a precaution... Secondly, let's not pretend as if Pop has t been doing this all season
Are you on the medical staff to know that ?
I can name you a lot of players who want to play while being injured. He missed the previous game because the staff wanted to be cautious, that’s what we call coming back from an injury.
Thomas82
12-26-2023, 10:04 PM
He's completely gassed and was playing like crap because of it.
I wouldn't be shocked if we don't see him again tonight.
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 10:04 PM
Clarkson legitimately looking like a fucking all-NBA caliber player against us :lol Nothing to do but laugh at it.
its actually kinda incredible how many laker castoffs have gone on to have successful careers in the last decade
Splits
12-26-2023, 10:04 PM
I mean if this is just an experiment season, sure would like to see more of Wesley.
Barfunk
12-26-2023, 10:05 PM
Damn, another L :-/
Frenchfred
12-26-2023, 10:05 PM
:lol Wemby's conditioning has somehow gotten worse as the season's progressed
And next summer, he'll play in the Olympics so not sure if he'll be able to improve his conditioning. Hopefully, we can get a good PG to make his life easier
Barfunk
12-26-2023, 10:06 PM
:pop:
Thomas82
12-26-2023, 10:09 PM
With this minutes restriction, I assume Wemby is done for the night.
I'm happy to be wrong.
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 10:14 PM
:lol Wemby playing like absolute ass
spursparker9
12-26-2023, 10:16 PM
Seems like KJ's throat got hit by Clarkson's shoulder. Common foul tbh
Mugen
12-26-2023, 10:17 PM
I've never had less joy from watching a sports team than this season. And I've watched some horrible Raider teams in the last two decades.
The old man managed to suck every single positive heading into this year. They're going to be paying for this horrible year for many, many years to come.
I'll do an ELE bet with any legitimate sniffer on this board that the Spurs lose to the Pistons tbh.
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 10:18 PM
branham 0 points in 15 minutes :lol
onechance87
12-26-2023, 10:23 PM
branham 0 points in 15 minutes :lol
dude does not belong in the nba....every few games he will hit a few shots...But thats it
Cant shoot,Cant defend,Cant rebound,Cant do nothing wel
Kawhi Duncan
12-26-2023, 10:23 PM
Pop has successfully broken Wemby... He doesn't have the confidence or swagger he had from the preseason and early on in the year...
Barfunk
12-26-2023, 10:25 PM
We got a longgggggggggggggg way to go. I mean in the draft, the Spurs probably aren't even going to pick the best player and even then, Pop won't even play the pick next season much. Sorry Pop diehards. He simply needs to go, and honestly, I'm actually indeed a Pop fan, but I still prefer to call things as they are.
spurs10
12-26-2023, 10:26 PM
We are every bit as bad as Detroit, actually worse as they compete.
Mugen
12-26-2023, 10:27 PM
Pop has successfully broken Wemby... He doesn't have the confidence or swagger he had from the preseason and early on in the year...
Yeah. Wemby is done playing for this org and I don't blame him one bit :lol
What a masterclass in how to absolutely torpedo getting a generational talent.
Barfunk
12-26-2023, 10:29 PM
You need a hard nosed coach, most all great championship teams had a hard nosed coach, but not a coach who's an outright freaking dictator.
tbdog
12-26-2023, 10:30 PM
Jazz just have legit nba players, playing with youth. They are a better than their record. Wemby looks injured unfortunately.
Blizzardwizard
12-26-2023, 10:31 PM
Wemby looked massively tired, demotivated and possibly carrying a lingering injury tonight. Poor guy.
If he gets shutdown for any meaningful period of time to rehab that ankle the 11-12 Bobcats' fewest wins record could genuinely be in play.
SPURt
12-26-2023, 10:33 PM
Spurs aren’t gonna win a lot of games with Wemby playing like that. Collins, Jones, Cedi, and McBuckets gave absolutely nothing. Winnable game, terrible play in all the wrong places.
Mugen
12-26-2023, 10:33 PM
:lol Wemby was doing between the legs dunks during warmups. He's not injured.
I think it's starting to realize that this wasn't the Spurs org he grew up watching. It's amateur hour.
baseline bum
12-26-2023, 10:37 PM
I gotta stop tuning into these games. Until they get a coach who gives a shit about defense this team is going to be unfuckingwatchable.
Robz4000
12-26-2023, 10:37 PM
:lol Wemby was doing between the legs dunks during warmups. He's not injured.
I think it's starting to realize that this wasn't the Spurs org he grew up watching. It's amateur hour.
This tbh.
Mugen
12-26-2023, 10:42 PM
I gotta stop tuning into these games. Until they get a coach who gives a shit about defense this team is going to be unfuckingwatchable.
Wide open 3 after wide open 3 because these fucking bums are being coached to overhelp to defend the paint when probably the best shot blocking prospect in NBA history is at the cup :lol
Pauleta14
12-26-2023, 10:42 PM
And they're supposed to be working specifically to find Victor more lmao
SURREAL spectacle and sad for Vic who's body language speaks volume. Forget his interviews
Barfunk
12-26-2023, 10:45 PM
Wemby not playing the back to back.
onechance87
12-26-2023, 10:50 PM
rebounds and shooting is whats killing us.....We made shots in the end but the game was already over..
Our guards have been terrible in vassell,jones,and branham...Its time to switch it up maybe try
wesley and granham a chance already
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 11:05 PM
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Mugen
12-26-2023, 11:05 PM
:lmao
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 11:06 PM
considering thats coming after today's game, he's almost certainly referring to branham at the very least
osman has also been inconsistent (and mcdermott consistently bad) but its not like this team is flooded w/ wing options
and of course collins, but with Bassey out and Barlow seemingly in exile... not really seeing much to be done there
onechance87
12-26-2023, 11:08 PM
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gotta start with branham and tre jones....time to switch it up with wesley and granham and
maybe mamu over collins
sananspursfan21
12-26-2023, 11:09 PM
Aside from Wemby, you’re looking at a team comprised of not the best guy available in the draft but some offshoot name that nobody else would have even joked about drafting with that pick. This isn’t the big 3 Spurs where you can afford to do that every once in awhile. This team is just a bunch of players that might have made nice 15th men getting 10 minutes a game in garbage time in 2005
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 11:13 PM
Aside from Wemby, you’re looking at a team comprised of not the best guy available in the draft but some offshoot name that nobody else would have even joked about drafting with that pick. This isn’t the big 3 Spurs where you can afford to do that every once in awhile. This team is just a bunch of players that might have made nice 15th men getting 10 minutes a game in garbage time in 2005
eh, i dont really think this is the case at all. vassell/sochan/branham/wesley were all drafted basically in line with their projections. tre jones was a SRP. keldon was a very late first and a successful one at that. the rest of the guys have all been around long enough where they're no longer really associated with their draft positions
the spurs draft reaches in recent years were Primo and Samanic
Mugen
12-26-2023, 11:13 PM
The big fucking move is starting Wesley over Branham for a couple of games and them still getting skullfucked by 20+ a night :lol
There is zero, literally zero chance that guys like Graham, Mamu and Barlow will see meaningful mins in the next 20 games for the simple reason that it makes too much sense.
Leetonidas
12-26-2023, 11:18 PM
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:lol I'll believe it when I see it
playbonner15
12-26-2023, 11:22 PM
considering thats coming after today's game, he's almost certainly referring to branham at the very least
osman has also been inconsistent (and mcdermott consistently bad) but its not like this team is flooded w/ wing options
and of course collins, but with Bassey out and Barlow seemingly in exile... not really seeing much to be done there
Branham's been turrible
NASpurs
12-26-2023, 11:25 PM
Hopefully the changes he refers to is stepping down from basketball operations.
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 11:32 PM
The big fucking move is starting Wesley over Branham for a couple of games and them still getting skullfucked by 20+ a night :lol
There is zero, literally zero chance that guys like Graham, Mamu and Barlow will see meaningful mins in the next 20 games for the simple reason that it makes too much sense.
Barlow not seeing any minutes after Bassey going down has been really bizarre tbh
think pop is warming up to Wesley getting run. Graham is a lost cause.
and Mamu is fun for spurts but his defense is beyond horrid. I’ll watch him do some nice things for 3 minutes and think “wtf why doesn’t this guy play more” and then i watch more closely and go “oh that’s why”
there’s definitely a place for Mamu minutes in a year like this. Definitely more than we’ve seen
baseline bum
12-26-2023, 11:44 PM
The big fucking move is starting Wesley over Branham for a couple of games and them still getting skullfucked by 20+ a night :lol
There is zero, literally zero chance that guys like Graham, Mamu and Barlow will see meaningful mins in the next 20 games for the simple reason that it makes too much sense.
Though to be fair, any move that gets Branham the fuck off the floor is an enormous positive. That pos is allowing his man to shoot 57.4% against him this year, not fucking joking. Among players who have appeared in 20 games this year Branham is fourth worst in the league. He makes Collins look like Mount Mutombo. Though Graham's allowing his man to shoot 58.8% so not sure he's an answer either.
spurraider21
12-26-2023, 11:44 PM
It’s a nice change of pace for Sochan to not be the most frustrating player of the game. But i question his long term prospects if he’s simply not an impact defender
baseline bum
12-26-2023, 11:47 PM
It’s a nice change of pace for Sochan to not be the most frustrating player of the game. But i question his long term prospects if he’s simply not an impact defender
Poor man's Malik Rose
Mugen
12-26-2023, 11:48 PM
Barlow not seeing any minutes after Bassey going down has been really bizarre tbh
think pop is warming up to Wesley getting run. Graham is a lost cause.
and Mamu is fun for spurts but his defense is beyond horrid. I’ll watch him do some nice things for 3 minutes and think “wtf why doesn’t this guy play more” and then i watch more closely and go “oh that’s why”
there’s definitely a place for Mamu minutes in a year like this. Definitely more than we’ve seen
"He can't play defense" excuse went out the window about 15 games ago. Literally only Wemby plays D this year so that reason should never be held against a guy as to why he's not playing.
Graham not seeing a lick of playing time is so insane especially when he's inevitably bought out in a month instead of this dumbass FO using him as salary fodder in a trade.
I'm assuming Barlow isn't getting minutes because of some stupid two way player games restriction but that should have been thrown out the door the moment Bassey went down.
Again, this is all common sense shit that should be happing when you're talking about a team that's historically one of the worst in NBA history.
But I literally can't even expect Pop to do any of that. People think it's hyperbole but I legitimately think this season's version of the old man has been the worst coach in sports in the last 25 years. He makes McDaniels look like a genius tbh.
Mugen
12-26-2023, 11:51 PM
Though to be fair, any move that gets Branham the fuck off the floor is an enormous positive. That pos is allowing his man to shoot 57.4% against him this year, not fucking joking. Among players who have appeared in 20 games this year Branham is fourth worst in the league. He makes Collins look like Mount Mutombo. Though Graham's allowing his man to shoot 58.8% so not sure he's an answer either.
No argument from me that Branham sucks. But give Wesley 10-15 games to show horrible he is and then we can check back in tbh :lol
daslicer
12-27-2023, 12:05 AM
I gotta stop tuning into these games. Until they get a coach who gives a shit about defense this team is going to be unfuckingwatchable.
I have a policy of only watching 1 Spurs game per a week and that's it. This team is too boring and unprofessional to give away too much time to watching them.
Spurs Homer
12-27-2023, 12:09 AM
Someone needs to tell pop that since wemby gets gassed after 5 minutes- pop needs to sub him out for maybe 1-2 minutes and then throw him back out there for another 5 minutes
then 1-2 minutes rest and then right back out there
start game- sub him out at 7 min mark
back in at 5 minute mark - EVEN if you have to burn a timeout to get him right back in
finish 1st qtr - and along with tv timeout- put him back in at the 11 minute mark of 2nd qtr
sub out at 6 minute mark
use timeout to make sure wemby is back by 4 minute mark of 2nd qtr to finish out first half
that is 19 minutes out of the 24 minutes on the floor and only 5 resting and timeouts also
repeat in 2nd half and this will give vw 38 minutes a game and the ONLY chance the spurs have to win games
tonite pop subbed vw out way before halftime and NEVER put him back until the 3rd qtr
why the fuck did vw need 7 minutes of rest PLUS HALFTIME?
poopbox
12-27-2023, 12:31 AM
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"Demanding consistency" from players who are bottom 5 in almost every offensive and defensive category :lmao
"Make some changes" :lmao
Tyronn Lue
12-27-2023, 12:42 AM
If the amateur fighting Tyson Fury doesn't do better, we're going to have to change him up to southpaw.
The Truth #6
12-27-2023, 01:18 AM
Blake has shown aspects of faint improvement. In theory, he gets into the lane and tries hard on POA defense. Might as well start him. Fuck it. Branham has regressed and not just from being the sacrificial "point guard" of the moment.
offset formation
12-27-2023, 01:19 AM
Another 130 points on the board against the vaunted Spurs D.
Another 130 points on the board against the vaunted Spurs D.
It's just a game :pop: There are people out there putting ketchup on their eggs. You ever think about that?
Jordan Jackson
12-27-2023, 02:37 AM
I’m not sure this Spurs team can beat the Pistons. They can’t shoot 3s but if left open which the Spurs are prone to do - they will make them. Better hope the Pistons win before they play the Spurs.
Barfunk
12-27-2023, 03:03 AM
It's just a game :pop: There are people out there putting ketchup on their eggs. You ever think about that?
I can dig some ketchup on scrambled here and there
baseline bum
12-27-2023, 03:15 AM
No argument from me that Branham sucks. But give Wesley 10-15 games to show horrible he is and then we can check back in tbh :lol
At least Wesley can play defense :lol
Pretty sure he can slide right into Branham's offensive role of missing wide open shots and throwing retarded low energy passes for turnovers
TrainOfThought5
12-27-2023, 04:11 AM
Has anyone seen some historical context around our 3rd quarter play this year? I feel like we have to be one of the worst 3rd quarter teams in recent memory :lol Would love to know how much we’re getting outscored by
I’ve been a fan of the spurs since ‘98. I’ve never seen us be a good third quarter Team.
Splits
12-27-2023, 07:19 AM
Has anyone seen some historical context around our 3rd quarter play this year? I feel like we have to be one of the worst 3rd quarter teams in recent memory :lol Would love to know how much we’re getting outscored by
This is a couple weeks old, but not much has changed I would think
https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/0b87a174-6cf3-43bb-81f1-465e9d5d01bc.jpeg?format=webp
DrSteffo
12-27-2023, 07:35 AM
First 9 minutes were good. I think this team really need to have a shooter like Champaigne in the starting lineup with Wemby. Sochan looked good to me and I don't understand the hate on him. I like him a lot. Branham is not starting caliber but could become a decent bench guy. This is a tanking team. With a real PG and a 3 and D guy at SF, next year could be fun.
SupremeGuy
12-27-2023, 09:45 AM
:lol Wemby was doing between the legs dunks during warmups. He's not injured.
I think it's starting to realize that this wasn't the Spurs org he grew up watching. It's amateur hour.I know some people that were at the game the other night when he got "injured." They said they saw everything happen and were genuinely surprised/pissed when they found out he was being kept out of the game that night.
I don't know how anyone can still support poop. The writing was on the wall with bitchass kawhi tbh.
Is there any possible way for the Spurs to get out of the stupid contract they just gave him?
I'd really like to see Manu, if he wanted it, the HC position. Add in some TP and Diaw to keep our french franchise happy, and we could turn this ship around.
I can dig some ketchup on scrambled here and there
:vomit:
Barfunk
12-27-2023, 05:18 PM
:vomit:
Lol, eh, I use to know this chic back in high school who liked to put potato chips in her Lucky Charms cereal, so ketchup on eggs isn't bad. Lots of people like ketchup on eggs, it's not that weird of a combo, lol.
SpursFan86
12-27-2023, 06:40 PM
This is a couple weeks old, but not much has changed I would think
https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/0b87a174-6cf3-43bb-81f1-465e9d5d01bc.jpeg?format=webp
Good stuff (the data, not the fact that we’re getting blown out by fucking 28 points per 100 possessions in the 3rd quarter :lol )
djohn2oo8
12-27-2023, 07:52 PM
KJ back on the texans homie
We back up
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