Game Thread: Spurs vs Blazers 12/29/23 9 PM CST, 5 AM in Riga

[exstatic]

GSG

[Fireball]

No Wemby ... so not really interested ...

[CorrectCrusader]

No Wemby ... so not really interested ...

https://i.imgur.com/wWS6UV3.png

[RC_Drunkford]

Guaranteed L

[LeBowen]

Wemby didn't get over himself.

Time for Zach Collins masterclass. He'll score 25 and be directly at fault for 40 on the other end.

[Joseph Kony]

watch Mamu still get a DNP :lol

[spurraider21]

watch Mamu still get a DNP :lol
Wemby out for SA

Bediako out for Austin

I wonder where Pop sends Barlow :lol

[onechance87]

hopefully pop plays barlow or mamu a good amount of time...Pop tried that small ball lineup and
almost lost us the game yesterday

[Dex]

I would LOVE to see this crew find a way to win without Wemby, just to prove he has a squad around him.

[rascal]

I would LOVE to see this crew find a way to win without Wemby, just to prove he has a squad around him.

I hope they don't win.

This front office needs to wake up and turn over this roster.

[CorrectCrusader]

I hope they don't win.

This front office needs to wake up and turn over this roster.

This is the turned over roster. All of our core guys are under the age of 24 except Keldon

[rascal]

This is the turned over roster. All of our core guys are under the age of 24 except Keldon

Nope, there are going to be changes. Spurs will never win anything with this core.

[CorrectCrusader]

Anyone know a stream with the spurs announcers?

[PhantomDashCam]

https://x.com/spurs/status/1740924853740257783?s=20

[SPURt]

Wonder if we’ll see Wesley or Cissoko play tonight?

[John B]

Wonder if we’ll see Wesley or Cissoko play tonight?

Include Barlow in there. Sissoco is a bit offensive challenged, while Dominick has more all-around game. Nothing against Sidy. I’m rooting for the kid with his better defense and ability to push the ball, and making nifty passes.

[CorrectCrusader]

We are so lucky to have Sean as an announcer.

[John B]

Great start defensively.

[InRareForm]

So many stupid passes lol

[MultiTroll]

Why was Sochan scouted so high?

Bad in so many areas.

I don't see the potential.

[poopbox]

Doug supposed to be a veteran on this team but he has done nothing but fuck up since he got in the game

[Leetonidas]

McNugget with two turnovers in like 15 seconds:lmao

[SPURt]

McBuckets is playing McShit tonight

[NASpurs]

Why was Sochan scouted so high?

Bad in so many areas.

I don't see the potential.

He's actually a worse Fathead. At least Fathead had the potential to be like Diaw. What's Sochan's potential?

[onechance87]

tre jones suppose to be a pg

[rascal]

It would be bad if they fold up and lose with Wemby on the bench to an injured Portland team they easily beat last night.

[spursparker9]

He's actually a worse Fathead. At least Fathead had the potential to be like Diaw. What's Sochan's potential?

Triple Single Raymond Green

[playbonner15]

lol looks like this depleted Blazers team's still better than Spurs w/o Wemby

[CorrectCrusader]

That was nasty Malaki.

[Pauleta14]

Pop wants to win this one fr

[Pauleta14]

TWICE IN A ROW!!!! they screw up the inbound after a spurs timeout... :lol

[spurraider21]

Backcourt turnovers are humiliating at the nba level

[poopbox]

It would be bad if they fold up and lose with Wemby on the bench to an injured Portland team they easily beat last night.
Easily beat? Wemby had to come in toward the end to keep them from embarrassing themselves. Highly unlikely the spurs win tonight. Portlands 2nd and 3rd stringers are at least as good as the players on our team not named Wemby.

[rascal]

They celebrated too much after last night's win.

[poopbox]

Keldon didnt come close to dunking that ball :lmao

[rascal]

Easily beat? Wemby had to come in toward the end to keep them from embarrassing themselves. Highly unlikely the spurs win tonight. Portlands 2nd and 3rd stringers are at least as good as the players on our team not named Wemby.

Last night's game was never in doubt. Spurs had a double digit lead almost the entire game.

[SPURt]

The simulation got tired with Jabari Walker. He looks like Samaki with dreads.

[poopbox]

This is a game that Keldon and Devin should be playing well in and neither one is

[poopbox]

Last night's game was never in doubt. Spurs had a double digit lead almost the entire game.

That's why Victor had to come back in the game with 3 minutes left? Because it was "never in doubt"?

[SPURt]

Vassell disappears way too much. Dude is a ghost out there. The last thing any of us want to see is Zach Collins be the best Spur tonight. That means Sochan, KJ, and Vassell have given too little. Terrible.

[rascal]

That's why Victor had to come back in the game with 3 minutes left? Because it was "never in doubt"?

Victor played last night so no doubt they would win. My point is the Spurs won easily last night with Wemby playing.

[rascal]

Vassell disappears way too much. Dude is a ghost out there. The last thing any of us want to see is Zach Collins be the best Spur tonight. That means Sochan, KJ, and Vassell have given too little. Terrible.

I was told how every Spur player was going to improve from last year. Not seeing it.

[baseline bum]

ROFL giving up 71 points to 8-win Portland's G-League team in a half without the franchise on the floor tonight. This team is so worthless outside of Victor.

Fuck Sochan
Fuck Johnson
Fuck Branham
Fuck Collins
Fuck Pop
Fuck BWrong

Burn this team to the ground this summer and start new, and hope you can find someone to make Victor want to stick around after his rookie contract.

[baseline bum]

Sign Quickley or Anunoby and don't draft hustle player crap like Sochan

[Kurgan]

It's apparent how little talent there is on this roster outside of Wemby. Very bad look for Brian Wright who was responsible for scouting/drafting this group of losers. You could have let a computer auto draft the Spurs lotto picks the last few years and it would have done a better job than this fucking retard.

[rascal]

ROFL giving up 71 points to 8-win Portland's G-League team in a half without the franchise on the floor tonight. This team is so worthless outside of Victor.

Fuck Sochan
Fuck Johnson
Fuck Branham
Fuck Collins
Fuck Pop
Fuck BWrong

Burn this team to the ground this summer and start new, and hope you can find someone to make Victor want to stick around after his rookie contract.

The front office better do some work this summer to improve this roster unlike what they did last summer.

[Robz4000]

ROFL giving up 71 points to 8-win Portland's G-League team in a half without the franchise on the floor tonight. This team is so worthless outside of Victor.

Fuck Sochan
Fuck Johnson
Fuck Branham
Fuck Collins
Fuck Pop
Fuck BWrong

Burn this team to the ground this summer and start new, and hope you can find someone to make Victor want to stick around after his rookie contract.

Forgot about Vassell tbh.

[Kurgan]

Man, that 2022 draft was brutal. Three first round picks and they were all misses. Wright knows how to accumulate lotto picks but has no idea how to draft or evaluate talent.

[SPURt]

Champagnie got erased there… damn

[SPURt]

Zollins might be out for a minute on that one

[Kurgan]

Wright has turned us into the West Coast Pistons. Why the fuck did the ownership hire someone from Detroit to run our front office?

[rascal]

Man, that 2022 draft was brutal. Three first round picks and they were all misses. Wright knows how to accumulate lotto picks but has no idea how to draft or evaluate talent.

Most here on Spurstalk wanted Sochan with the 9th pick.

[SPURt]

I was told how every Spur player was going to improve from last year. Not seeing it.
It’s been pretty disappointing. I was expecting something akin to D Rob’s first season, but Terry Cummings, Willie Anderson, Rod Strickland/Maurice Cheeks, and Sean were way better than this.

[baseline bum]

Forgot about Vassell tbh.

I'm not writing Vassell off, he could maybe be a fourth starter.

[CorrectCrusader]

Damn this is pathetic lol.

[SouthernFryd]

At this point I'm wondering...why the hell did you even Pick Wemby? Could have lost just as easily without him and given the kid a chance to be on a real team. What a waste of a real "generational" talent. Seriously. I woulda have been happy watching him play for a team that he could have helped and knew how to use him.

[CorrectCrusader]

WE WON A THIRD QUARTER :bobo:bobo:bobo:bobo:bobo:bobo

[SPURt]

I can’t believe the Spurs are in this game still. From down 26 to down 10. Tre Jones rolling his ankle might have a negative impact on this comeback.

[poopbox]

I can’t believe the Spurs are in this game still. From down 26 to down 10. Tre Jones rolling his ankle might have a negative impact on this comeback.

You can't believe the spurs were able to come back against some second rounders and 3rd stringers :rollin

Neither can I :rollin

[poopbox]

Sochan getting the ball stolen from him in the backcourt by some no name bum :lmao

[spurraider21]

Backcourt turnovers are humiliating at the nba level

[TekXX]

This would have been nice if the Spurs hadn't gotten down by 30

[spurraider21]

Spurs are +10 in the 20 min with Tre on the floor and -20 in the 22 minutes without him

he’s not even a very good point guard. But at least he’s a fucking point guard

[spurraider21]

Lmao just walking away from Brogdon and leaving him open from 3 in the same spot where he just made one

[Spurs Brazil]

Sochan is so dumb. Mistake after mistake

[poopbox]

Keldon and Sochan combining their low basketball IQ's to leave Brogdon WIDE OPEN for 3 :lmao

I was on the "let's see what we have on the team right now" wagon when the season started but I have seen enough. We might legit have to trade every single player on this team not named Wemby

[DesignatedT]

This team is retarded and it starts with the coaching.

[SPURt]

Ugh Branham

[spurraider21]

Backcourt turnovers are humiliating at the nba level
Keeps happening

[CorrectCrusader]

This team is actually braindead.

[spursparker9]

Spurs are +10 in the 20 min with Tre on the floor and -20 in the 22 minutes without him

he’s not even a very good point guard. But at least he’s a fucking point guard

Not in Pop's eyes. :pop:

[spursparker9]

:lol Scrubs Spurs letting Scoot having his breakout game

[spurraider21]

Just send branham to the gleague and let him workshop his defense, and either his outside shot or his handling/passing. Give Wesley/Graham some run in the backcourt to backup Tre. You can’t “see what you have” when you have incompetence weighing down everybody on the floor

[spurraider21]

:lol Scrubs Spurs letting Scoot having his breakout game
Eh. Scoots gonna be a good one. We knew that during draft season

[rascal]

Eh. Scoots gonna be a good one. We knew that during draft season

Many here said Scoot was going to be a bust.

[poopbox]

Many here said Scoot was going to be a bust.

Well we know 3 or 4 good games he will have every year

[rascal]

Detroit is playing better since Duren is back playing. Gave Boston a tough game in Boston.

[hoopdreams11]

Sochan outplayed by Walker Sochan was picked 9th walker 57th in the same draft we should have picked Eason

[wildbill2u]

Don't know why he simply forgot about Barlow. He could have replaced Sochan.

[rascal]

Sochan's defense is comical.

Just go back and watch highlights on his positioning and what he's doing defensively. I'm laughing at how lost he looks out there.

He's in between the basket and a player on the break and instead of holding his ground to take a charge and contest the break with his arms up he keeps his arms down and turns his body to let the player go right past him for a layup.

[freetiago]

Sochan only good games came vs teams that had no defense or centers and let him do layup lines. He’s horrific outside of that. Never seen a dumber low IQ player in a Spurs jersey then this guy but some of you sniffers call him untouchable. Can make a low light reel just off his air balls when he’s given 10 feet of space to shoot it.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Sochan's defense is comical.

Just go back and watch highlights on his positioning and what he's doing defensively. I'm laughing at how lost he looks out there.

He's in between the basket and a player on the break and instead of holding his ground to take a charge and contest the break with his arms up he keeps his arms down and turns his body to let the player go right past him for a layup.

Spurstalk talked about him and Vassell as if they were defensive aces last year

[rascal]

Spurstalk talked about him and Vassell as if they were defensive aces last year

Over rated by Spurstalk and stats didn't support him being a strong defensive player last year.

[TimDunkem]

:lmao Sochan is so bad.
:lmao Today's Spurs scouts

[The Truth #6]

He made 2nd All Rookie team. He showed promise last year. I hoped the point guard experiment would help him but it seems to have only confused him. He's young and raw but last year he had fire. For various reasons that's been extinguished this year. Without that emotional edge he doesn't have enough skills to fall back on. He doesn't know what his role is. To me, this is the biggest let down of the season, Jeremy's regression.

[RC_Drunkford]

Pop said he's proud how the team fought to get back in the game after being down 30 :lmao

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1740973084616843430?s=20

[duncan2150]

https://x.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1740973084616843430?s=20

What a mess...

[Dex]

https://x.com/PaulGarciaNBA/status/1740973084616843430?s=20

Can't be defending the three-point so that all guys can all rush into the paint and then stand there and watch as the other team gets the offensive rebounds.

Sometimes it feels like watching a pack of puppies all chasing a ball

[mudd]

Just comical how the talent drafted by Pop and Wright just can’t compete with a short handed bottom feeder like the blazers. The last draft nights experts didn’t know what to say about our stupid picks. Everyone was asking themselves what have we missed and are the spurs super smart. Now we know the answer , no they are just stupid and think themselves smarter then everybody. Geez

[dbestpro]

Bruce Bowen needs to come in and coach defense.

[LeBowen]

As I've said before, the entire roster is full of charity cases and players with fatal flaws that are impossible to overcome in the modern NBA.
Impossible unless that player is elite at a certain aspect. For example elite shooters can get away with being bad defenders, but Doug is such a bad defender that even Curry levels of shooting would barely make him a net positive.

Aside from obviously Wemby, Devin is the only exception here, but even he's been showing concerning levels of tunnel vision and bad defense. I guess that playing with shitters eventually gets to everyone.

Tre - undersized, can't shoot.
Sochan - where do I start? For some reason his defense has also turned to shit. The only thing he's got going for him is that one-handed FTs are actually working, but Jeremy attacking the paint is a win for the opponent in itself.
Keldon - disgustingly bad defender considering the level of athleticism he has, even worse tunnel vision. Definition of a tank commander and empty stats player.
Collins - Bonner played DPOY defense compared to him and had double the 3pt percentage. Get rid of ASAP.
Branham - Homeless man living under the bridge's Jordan Clarkson. Another traffic cone on defense.
Osman - End of the bench guy for serious teams, managed to look decent for us at times because everyone else is so lost.
McDermott - Managing to be the worst defender on the team in such competition is a feat, tbh.

The rest of G-league roster isn't even worth a mention.

The situation is honestly alarming. Three years in the lottery and one player to show for. But he got a 150 million deal and started regressing.
Maybe Sochan can be salvaged, but that's about it.
An entire new roster to surround Wemby is needed.
This season is a write off already, but come the next season we need at least five quality rotation players who are going to be net positive or Wemby is going to start asking questions. Doesn't seem like the type who's going to be content with wasting time on a team that's not making any progress.

But you can ignore the entirety of this post as long as the old man is still in charge.

[Tyronn Lue]

Bruce Bowen needs to come in and coach defense.
"Kick'em when they're up, kick'em when they're down" -Bruce

:lol

[TimDunkem]

Just comical how the talent drafted by Pop and Wright just can’t compete with a short handed bottom feeder like the blazers. The last draft nights experts didn’t know what to say about our stupid picks. Everyone was asking themselves what have we missed and are the spurs super smart. Now we know the answer , no they are just stupid and think themselves smarter then everybody. Geez

There has been a brain and talent drain from the court to the front office over the last 7-8 years. The franchise has been coasting on the reputation it built over the previous 20 years ever since.

[Truckules]

As I've said before, the entire roster is full of charity cases and players with fatal flaws that are impossible to overcome in the modern NBA.
Impossible unless that player is elite at a certain aspect. For example elite shooters can get away with being bad defenders, but Doug is such a bad defender that even Curry levels of shooting would barely make him a net positive.

Aside from obviously Wemby, Devin is the only exception here, but even he's been showing concerning levels of tunnel vision and bad defense. I guess that playing with shitters eventually gets to everyone.

Tre - undersized, can't shoot.
Sochan - where do I start? For some reason his defense has also turned to shit. The only thing he's got going for him is that one-handed FTs are actually working, but Jeremy attacking the paint is a win for the opponent in itself.
Keldon - disgustingly bad defender considering the level of athleticism he has, even worse tunnel vision. Definition of a tank commander and empty stats player.
Collins - Bonner played DPOY defense compared to him and had double the 3pt percentage. Get rid of ASAP.
Branham - Homeless man living under the bridge's Jordan Clarkson. Another traffic cone on defense.
Osman - End of the bench guy for serious teams, managed to look decent for us at times because everyone else is so lost.
McDermott - Managing to be the worst defender on the team in such competition is a feat, tbh.

The rest of G-league roster isn't even worth a mention.

The situation is honestly alarming. Three years in the lottery and one player to show for. But he got a 150 million deal and started regressing.
Maybe Sochan can be salvaged, but that's about it.
An entire new roster to surround Wemby is needed.
This season is a write off already, but come the next season we need at least five quality rotation players who are going to be net positive or Wemby is going to start asking questions. Doesn't seem like the type who's going to be content with wasting time on a team that's not making any progress.

But you can ignore the entirety of this post as long as the old man is still in charge.

Pretty much agree, but I don't think the situation is as dire as you make it sound. I think Tre, Keldon, Osman, and Collins can be fine if they're in the right role. Of them, the only one I'm concerned about is Collins since they're paying him starter money, but he's probably a backup. I think the Spurs are stuck with that contract. Not exactly sure what to make of Sochan yet, but he's on a rookie deal so he can get cut loose if it turns for the worse. Branham may honestly be the worst player in the NBA. He needs to be spending time in Austin, not starting. However, he's also on a rookie deal so he can be jettisoned early if need be. I think McDermott's gone to a contender after this season.

It sucks that they've missed on some picks recently, but they've not made any unrecoverable errors either. The Collins extension is probably their worst mistake IMO, and that's only for 2 seasons. They still have their picks and some others that look to be fairly valuable. However, this next offseason is the most important offseason since the Kawhi trade. They have to hit on the upcoming picks or make trades for starters using them. Otherwise, they risk falling into the same cycle that Detroit is in now and countless other teams have fallen into in the past.

[LeBowen]

Branham may honestly be the worst player in the NBA. He needs to be spending time in Austin, not starting. However, he's also on a rookie deal so he can be jettisoned early if need be.

As someone said a few years ago, Schrodinger's Branham.
He was in starting and garbage time lineup in the same game. :lmao


It sucks that they've missed on some picks recently, but they've not made any unrecoverable errors either. The Collins extension is probably their worst mistake IMO, and that's only for 2 seasons. They still have their picks and some others that look to be fairly valuable. However, this next offseason is the most important offseason since the Kawhi trade. They have to hit on the upcoming picks or make trades for starters using them. Otherwise, they risk falling into the same cycle that Detroit is in now and countless other teams have fallen into in the past.

Yeah, with current cap situation, Collins contract is irrelevant and not a burden, what's more concerning is that they thought he'd actually be worth the money.
And what's even more concerning is that they're always so reluctant to make any moves and will sit on all those picks.
I'm not saying that they should waste picks on bad players, but PATFO needs to get rid of we like what we have mentality.
We lucked into a generational talent that's already proven he can be parennial MVP in a few years, not capitalizing on it would be one of the biggest failures in NBA history.

[baseline bum]

As I've said before, the entire roster is full of charity cases and players with fatal flaws that are impossible to overcome in the modern NBA.
Impossible unless that player is elite at a certain aspect. For example elite shooters can get away with being bad defenders, but Doug is such a bad defender that even Curry levels of shooting would barely make him a net positive.

Aside from obviously Wemby, Devin is the only exception here, but even he's been showing concerning levels of tunnel vision and bad defense. I guess that playing with shitters eventually gets to everyone.

Tre - undersized, can't shoot.
Sochan - where do I start? For some reason his defense has also turned to shit. The only thing he's got going for him is that one-handed FTs are actually working, but Jeremy attacking the paint is a win for the opponent in itself.
Keldon - disgustingly bad defender considering the level of athleticism he has, even worse tunnel vision. Definition of a tank commander and empty stats player.
Collins - Bonner played DPOY defense compared to him and had double the 3pt percentage. Get rid of ASAP.
Branham - Homeless man living under the bridge's Jordan Clarkson. Another traffic cone on defense.
Osman - End of the bench guy for serious teams, managed to look decent for us at times because everyone else is so lost.
McDermott - Managing to be the worst defender on the team in such competition is a feat, tbh.

The rest of G-league roster isn't even worth a mention.

The situation is honestly alarming. Three years in the lottery and one player to show for. But he got a 150 million deal and started regressing.
Maybe Sochan can be salvaged, but that's about it.
An entire new roster to surround Wemby is needed.
This season is a write off already, but come the next season we need at least five quality rotation players who are going to be net positive or Wemby is going to start asking questions. Doesn't seem like the type who's going to be content with wasting time on a team that's not making any progress.

But you can ignore the entirety of this post as long as the old man is still in charge.

The whole roster is G-League outside of Wemby, Vassell, and Jones honestly. Those are the only three players on the team who can play any competent level of defense. By competent I mean not bottom third of the league.

[Pauleta14]

Tre Jones is 10000% G League mate...

He just looks decent bc the rest is awfull, he has way too many limitations to be in NBA

vassel should be the 1st on the trading list bc of his contract, his fragility, his still existing hype and his countless weaknesses (mainly ball handling, court vision, defense or leadership)

He'd be great in a contender Wwith a very limited role of spot up shooter.
He's awfull with responsabilities o leadership

[tim_duncan_fan]

Fuck. I would sell high on Devin too, tbh.