View Full Version : Wemby subbed himself in late last night.
CorrectCrusader
01-03-2024, 01:34 PM
This tells me that if the FO thinks he's just gonna sit around while Pop loses games, they're out of their mind.
Ocotillo
01-03-2024, 02:34 PM
It's fair to say, Pop ain't going anywhere as far as ownership is concerned because of his legacy and recent contract with the Spurs organization. That being said, the one thing (person) that can change that is a disgruntled Victor. Doesn't look like we are there yet based on VW's comments post game but stay tuned.
baseline bum
01-03-2024, 02:38 PM
This tells me that if the FO thinks he's just gonna sit around while Pop loses games, they're out of their mind.
And then Pop subbed him back out a minute or two later right? Do you have a source confirming?
Chinook
01-03-2024, 02:42 PM
Didn't it happen twice, though? Wemby played what were effectively two one-minute stints in the second half of the quarter. It was weird to sub him in the first time if they weren't willing to let him play the rest of the game (because what's the upside?). I'm glad that Wemby wants to be in there. You'd have to think that Pop must really be hearing that Wemby needs to stick under his limit if he'd pull him twice like that.
And then Pop subbed him back out a minute or two later right? Do you have a source confirming?
“I wasn't allowed to sub in but I still did it. The coach sent me out right after,” the Spurs leading scorer said.
Asked, following the Spurs' 106-98 loss, if he feels like he's ready to play more minutes, Wemby didn't hesitate.
“Yes,” the top overall pick in the 2023 NBA Draft answered with perhaps as much frustration as anticipation.
https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-news-victor-wembanyama-checked-himself-back-into-grizzlies-game-despite-not-allowed
For having the rep of being a "boring" franchise, there sure seems to be a lot of ancillary distractions (sub in-gate, Pop's mic moment) this year. And that's not even factoring in shit like Primo flashing his dick to a psychiatrist.
baseline bum
01-03-2024, 02:47 PM
https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-news-victor-wembanyama-checked-himself-back-into-grizzlies-game-despite-not-allowed
Hopefully openly defying Pop like that will wake the old man the fuck up. Seeing Topic post 4 points in his first Euroleague game this year makes it even more clear there is no reason whatsoever to be tanking this season.
Rocalcio
01-03-2024, 02:59 PM
And then Pop subbed him back out a minute or two later right? Do you have a source confirming?
It’s been confirme in the post game interviews
Rocalcio
01-03-2024, 03:02 PM
https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-news-victor-wembanyama-checked-himself-back-into-grizzlies-game-despite-not-allowed
He also acknowledged that if the staff says that he needs to have his minutes limited, he needs to trust them.
MultiTroll
01-03-2024, 03:03 PM
Hopefully openly defying Pop like that will wake the old man the fuck up. Seeing Topic post 4 points in his first Euroleague game this year makes it even more clear there is no reason whatsoever to be tanking this season.
Isn't Popped contract a coachs option (Pop himself has the opt out option) kicking in year 3?
Yes if his destructive pride could be breached we could see real progress with Wama Championships pursuit moving forward.
Either by staying and becoming reasonable or by leaving and being reasonable. :lol
Praying .jpeg dog that ownship gets involved for the betterment of the TEAM.
He's soo image conscious and tries to virtue signal 24/7 so ya, perhaps this incident will pang him with what went on with Kawhi.
Reminder, site owner had said the Kahwi - Spurs org rift was about 50-50.
Not talking about the method and tactic he forced the trade, rather what led up to the demand.
MultiTroll
01-03-2024, 03:25 PM
He also acknowledged that if the staff says that he needs to have his minutes limited, he needs to trust them.
Yes.
Hoping it's just normal "teenager wants to stay out later, parental unit(s) said no i want you safe and home by midnight."
No ill will, just a healthy compromise.
TheGreatYacht
01-03-2024, 03:54 PM
Good on Wemby for showing the biggest egomaniac in basketball that he’s not some beta pussy that can be controlled like Pop likes them.
It’s ridiculous to see this kid sit out majority of quarters and lose any type of rhythm he had because he was benched for 15+ real time minutes. He hates losing and knows the games get busted out of proportion every time he sits the majority of the 3rd quarter.
He has the right mentality you’re supposed to have in this day and age. It’s on Pop to get over himself for the first time in his life. It’s why Lebron and Kobe would never take his shit. Cristiano Ronaldo also refused to listen to his manager when asked to sub in during garbage time and walked off. Good on Victor for admitting he’s frustrated with this shit.
timtonymanu
01-03-2024, 03:58 PM
Pop running out another superstar. Keep dumping on your legacy that Tim built for you, old man.
Chomag
01-03-2024, 04:45 PM
Wemby starting to get sick of the bull shit and it shows. They need to start listening to him now... not later.
John B
01-03-2024, 04:50 PM
chicken littles making a big deal, “the sky is falling” bs :lol
TheBallsbreakers
01-03-2024, 04:52 PM
For having the rep of being a "boring" franchise, there sure seems to be a lot of ancillary distractions (sub in-gate, Pop's mic moment) this year. And that's not even factoring in shit like Primo flashing his dick to a psychiatrist.
bahahaha
KobesAchilles
01-03-2024, 05:10 PM
Hopefully openly defying Pop like that will wake the old man the fuck up. Seeing Topic post 4 points in his first Euroleague game this year makes it even more clear there is no reason whatsoever to be tanking this season.
Dillngham is the savior we need for PG
DAF86
01-03-2024, 05:13 PM
Dillngham is the savior we need for PG
I like his offensive game but I fear he might prove to be too little for the NBA. When it's championship time teams will target him relentlessly possession after possession.
Mugen
01-03-2024, 05:15 PM
chicken littles making a big deal, “the sky is falling” bs :lol
spurraider21 called it :lol
TheGreatYacht
01-03-2024, 05:18 PM
Dillngham is the savior we need for PG
You know ball brother
DAF86
01-03-2024, 05:26 PM
chicken littles making a big deal, “the sky is falling” bs :lol
I don't know where this is coming from, but if true, this is big. When have you seen players, much less rookies, subbing themselves in? It shows a clear frustration by Wemby with how Pop is managing things. This could be the start of something bigger if the old man doesn't take notes.
i think it's funny to frame this as wemby vs pop. Wemby knows the team is shit and needs to tank, he knows there an injury risk. he also knows he has to be a leader and that the team can't win without him. Most of you cna't remember being 20 and feeling invincible and trying to figure it out.
KobesAchilles
01-03-2024, 05:55 PM
I like his offensive game but I fear he might prove to be too little for the NBA. When it's championship time teams will target him relentlessly possession after possession.
I’m looking at his height and it’s anywhere from as low as 6’1 to as high as 6’3. So I figure him to be 6’2 which is a good height for a PG and not undersized at all. It would mean Vassell has to learn to play defense, but he needed to do that anyways to work on our team going forward.
freetiago
01-03-2024, 05:59 PM
Pussies in here think teenagers need to have every second micro managed or their bodies will crumble. Tim played 40 minutes regularly his early years. If his ankle is an issue then don’t play him. There is no difference between the laying 24 or 30 minutes for him. Only thing affecting him are the horrific rotations his coach puts him on and always pulls him whenever he’s on a roll because muh minutes.
BatManu20
01-03-2024, 06:11 PM
Dillngham is the savior we need for PG
Dillingham is a lot of fun to watch and is clearly a great offensive talent, but I worry abut him defensively tbh. Just small and frail. Will be a liability on that end. But what better team for him to go to than the one who has a 7'4 shot-blocking monster in the paint. I wouldn't be mad at it tbh.
I’m looking at his height and it’s anywhere from as low as 6’1 to as high as 6’3. So I figure him to be 6’2 which is a good height for a PG and not undersized at all. It would mean Vassell has to learn to play defense, but he needed to do that anyways to work on our team going forward.
He doesn't even look a full 6'2 in pics imo, though I could be wrong. Think he's probably 6'1 and change, around the same height as Trae Young or maybe just a little taller. Though he's not the same talent that Trae is obviously. But he'd be a instant upgrade to our offense at least.
spurraider21
01-03-2024, 06:16 PM
if your range of acceptable point guards is guys bigger than 6'3, who can defend, who can hit 3's with volume, who can penetrate, and also have good passing/vision, you might be waiting for quite a while
BatManu20
01-03-2024, 06:27 PM
Tbh Dillingham has some Manu in him with his fancy dribbling and no-lookes passes and all that. The old man would probably hate him tbh :lol
BatManu20
01-03-2024, 06:36 PM
if your range of acceptable point guards is guys bigger than 6'3, who can defend, who can hit 3's with volume, who can penetrate, and also have good passing/vision, you might be waiting for quite a while
Yea that's why I said I'd gladly take him on this team despite his defensive limitations. I'd welcome a poor-man's Trae Young with open arms. He'd be one of our best offensive players from day 1 and would finally give us a play-making PG. He operates well out of the PnR due to his quickness off the bounce and his ability to shoot the 3 at a high clip (45% on 4.5 attempts/per is great). Efficiency near the pain needs to go up a bit but that should in time with some experience. He'd also bring entertainment to a team severely lacking outside of Wemby. I'm all for it if we somehow hang onto that TOR pick.
Harry Callahan
01-03-2024, 06:40 PM
An explosive athlete and effective player at the point would be great - I need to check out Dillingham's videos to see what's up.
spurraider21
01-03-2024, 06:40 PM
Yea that's why I said I'd gladly take him on this team despite his defensive limitations. I'd welcome a poor-man's Trae Young with open arms. He'd be one of our best offensive players from day 1 and would finally give us a play-making PG. He operates well out of the PnR too due to his quickness off the bounce and his ability to shoot the 3 at a high clip (45% on 4.5 attempts/per is great). Efficiency needs to go up a bit but that should in time with some experience. He'd also bring entertainment to a team severely lacking outside of Wemby. I'm all for it if we somehow hang onto that TOR pick.
patty is the last time we had a point guard that could simply pull up for 3 off the dribble when defenders tried going under a screen
BatManu20
01-03-2024, 06:45 PM
An explosive athlete and effective player at the point would be great - I need to check out Dillingham's videos to see what's up.
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Here's Dillingham dominating Overtime Elite. Obviously far less structured than even NCAA ball, but you can clearly see the talent.
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BatManu20
01-03-2024, 06:47 PM
patty is the last time we had a point guard that could simply pull up for 3 off the dribble when defenders tried going under a screen
That is depressingly true. The fact we've gone 3 years now without a guard capable of doing that is actually pretty nuts tbh :lol
spurraider21
01-03-2024, 07:02 PM
That is depressingly true. The fact we've gone 3 years now without a guard capable of doing that is actually pretty nuts tbh :lol
its such an easy way to get reasonably efficient offense to capitalize on any form of lazy defense on any given possession, and we havent been able to do that in so long. its easy offense, and our offense consistently feels like its a struggle to get off even a reasonable shot. then the other team walks down the court and gets off a quality 3 point look with 15 left on the shot clock
just imagine the pressure you could create with a high screen and roll from wemby with a player who can pull up for 3 or attack and dish
Extra Stout
01-03-2024, 07:14 PM
FREE WEMBY
Pretty much incontrovertible evidence that, if there’s a tanking situation occurring, Wemby’s clearly not aware of it and/or won’t be playing along with it.
Awesome leadership by the big fella. He’s stepping up a lot more suddenly and it’s nice to see.
spurraider21
01-03-2024, 09:41 PM
That is depressingly true. The fact we've gone 3 years now without a guard capable of doing that is actually pretty nuts tbh :lol
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so simple :lol
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spurs couldnt dream of a point guard doing this
Leetonidas
01-03-2024, 09:45 PM
Ugh and he was there for the taking too. Been saying for months the Spurs should make a run at Quickley:pctoss dude isn't leaving Toronto
paperboy77
01-03-2024, 09:51 PM
Question is.... is Gianis gonna pussy out tomorrow vs Wemby?
spurraider21
01-03-2024, 09:56 PM
Question is.... is Gianis gonna pussy out tomorrow vs Wemby?
real question is if pop will suspend wemby for a game because he subbed himself in
Tyronn Lue
01-03-2024, 10:08 PM
real question is if pop will suspend wemby for a game because he subbed himself in
:pop: he needs to get over himself
TheGreatYacht
01-03-2024, 10:20 PM
real question is if pop will suspend wemby for a game because he subbed himself in
:lol if this was soccer this would be a guarantee. Ronaldo got banished/suspended from Manchester United for refusing to be subbed on during garbage time and it was all the world was talking about
Now in this case? Won’t even make the front page of the San Antonio Express News lol
Barfunk
01-03-2024, 10:24 PM
Can't defend Pop here. Deserves all the criticism basketball-wise. He's old-school to a fault/extreme. Nobody is really going to hold him accountable, and definitely not his assistant coaches, who look to be yes-men and just happy to be an NBA coach.
SpurSpike
01-03-2024, 10:26 PM
Wemby is on another level when it comes to taking care of his body and he seems to be the kind of person that likes making his own path. He seems to embrace being unique. We have all seen the stretching routines and heard about his strict sleeping schedule. He has spent this extra time to become durable and avoid injuries. It's an insult to his dedication and training that they are treating him with kid gloves. He spends all this time doing stretches and getting his body ready to play and be great, not sit on the bench..
BatManu20
01-03-2024, 10:34 PM
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so simple :lol
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spurs couldnt dream of a point guard doing this
Yea having a lead Guard who can do that would literally change our offense entirely. Wemby/Dilly PnR could be nasty for years to come tbh. Would also really open things up for Devin and Keldon imo. They wouldn’t have to force the issue so much and could settle back into more complimentary roles. Either way, even if it’s not Dilly, Spurs have to find a play-making Guard this off-season. It’s an absolute must in order for this team to take a step forward next year.
baseline bum
01-03-2024, 10:57 PM
if your range of acceptable point guards is guys bigger than 6'3, who can defend, who can hit 3's with volume, who can penetrate, and also have good passing/vision, you might be waiting for quite a while
Just want Magic without the AIDS and with some defensive intensity, don't think it's too much to ask tbh
spurraider21
01-03-2024, 11:10 PM
Yea having a lead Guard who can do that would literally change our offense entirely. Wemby/Dilly PnR could be nasty for years to come tbh. Would also really open things up for Devin and Keldon imo. They wouldn’t have to force the issue so much and could settle back into more complimentary roles. Either way, even if it’s not Dilly, Spurs have to find a play-making Guard this off-season. It’s an absolute must in order for this team to take a step forward next year.
at this stage, the only FA who is particularly appealing to me is Malik Monk. he's been in the league for a while but is still just about to turn 26. good outside shooter, can score in bunches. has made strides as a playmaker. imo is still more of a combo guard/secondary playmaker, but who knows.
otherwise monte morris is intriguing. been hurt all season and should be affordable. wouldnt let him prevent me from drafting somebody though
Kurik
01-03-2024, 11:20 PM
Death, Taxes, and Kentucky guards in the NBA. Spurs should get 1 on the roster next year one way or the other.
gameFACE
01-03-2024, 11:55 PM
Good for Wemby. Don't take any sh!t
Amuseddaysleeper
01-04-2024, 12:11 AM
Good for him, but hope to avoid another Kawhi situation
BatManu20
01-04-2024, 12:42 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GC69FRZXUAAexQD?format=jpg&name=large
CorrectCrusader
01-04-2024, 02:05 AM
real question is if pop will suspend wemby for a game because he subbed himself in
Better not, I'm going to this game.
BatManu20
01-04-2024, 03:25 AM
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so simple :lol
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spurs couldnt dream of a point guard doing this
More of the same tonight. Exactly what the Spurs need tbh.
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onechance87
01-04-2024, 03:41 AM
More of the same tonight. Exactly what the Spurs need tbh.
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so annoyed we didnt get iq
CorrectCrusader
01-04-2024, 03:42 AM
I know missing out on Quickley sucks, but we couldn't have gotten him unless we gave up a ton of picks, which isn't happening.
Knicks wanted OG.
We don't have an OG.
onechance87
01-04-2024, 04:10 AM
I know missing out on Quickley sucks, but we couldn't have gotten him unless we gave up a ton of picks, which isn't happening.
Knicks wanted OG.
We don't have an OG.
then we should have gave up picks...Its no guarentee we draft good players the next few years..Iq is a
point who is a shooter and plays d who takes care of the ball...Pretty much what we need with
wemby to grow with....Think iq gonna be a difference maker for any team he plays for
tbdog
01-04-2024, 05:29 AM
then we should have gave up picks...Its no guarentee we draft good players the next few years..Iq is a
point who is a shooter and plays d who takes care of the ball...Pretty much what we need with
wemby to grow with....Think iq gonna be a difference maker for any team he plays for
Toronto and Knicks didn't want picks. They wanted players. Ready to win now players.
weebo
01-04-2024, 06:59 AM
Just want Magic without the AIDS and with some defensive intensity, don't think it's too much to ask tbh
At this point, even AIDS Magic would be an upgrade.
SouthernFryd
01-04-2024, 07:04 AM
I'm really liking this guy. And not just because of his basketball skills.
Haven't said that about a Basketball player since Duncan.
Granted, I quit watching Basketball when Duncan left and the NBA went on that stupid kneeling shtick...but, still. I'm liking this kid.
He would have been awesome with Kawhi.
spurraider21
01-04-2024, 09:15 AM
I'm really liking this guy. And not just because of his basketball skills.
Haven't said that about a Basketball player since Duncan.
Granted, I quit watching Basketball when Duncan left and the NBA went on that stupid kneeling shtick...but, still. I'm liking this kid.
He would have been awesome with Kawhi.
I’m sorry about the blacks
MultiTroll
01-04-2024, 10:25 AM
I know missing out on Quickley sucks, but we couldn't have gotten him unless we gave up a ton of picks, which isn't happening.
Knicks wanted OG.
We don't have an OG.
Sniffers said holding onto Dougie McForsbot was a good thing last year, that teams would come knocking. CIA Pop GOAT move.
Is there any team that wants Mc No D?
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