Pretty clear it's going to be Trump/Biden...

[CosmicCowboy]

Who do you think will take it? I'm beginning to grudgingly accept that Trump is probably going to win. He has cleaned up his messaging and Biden continues to mentally go downhill. I think the border will end up being the defining issue that puts Trump over the top. What a fucked up election.

[Thread]

Who do you think will take it? I'm beginning to grudgingly accept that Trump is probably going to win. He has cleaned up his messaging and Biden continues to mentally go downhill. I think the border will end up being the defining issue that puts Trump over the top. What a fucked up election.

I cannot imagine this country permitting another Trump Presidency, CC. They threatened to slaughter him (and members of his family) a half-dozen times & ways last time he made President. You can feel the boil up already out at CNN & MSNBC.

Let us proceed...

[MultiTroll]

Incredible to me the Dem's could not come up with a viable candidate.

I also fear Trumpler will win by default, too many reasonable people weary of Joes age and health.

[MultiTroll]

I think the border will end up being the defining issue that puts Trump over the top. What a fucked up election.
Abortion might be as big an issue.
Wonder if the younger set will mobilize and hit the booth? Can e voting take place? LoL The of age pregnancy capable sector really want's access.

Agree it's going to be flocked up and i look for plenty of shenanigans to still take place.

Some of the promises coming out of Trumplers mouth will no doubt be hilarious.

[CosmicCowboy]

Abortion might be as big an issue.
Wonder if the younger set will mobilize and hit the booth? Can e voting take place? LoL The of age pregnancy capable sector really want's access.

Agree it's going to be flocked up and i look for plenty of shenanigans to still take place.

Some of the promises coming out of Trumplers mouth will no doubt be hilarious.

Abortion is not a federal issue. There will never be consensus at the federal level to go either way...either ban or blanket approve. Like it or not, the Supreme court made it a state issue.

[baseline bum]

Trump's going to win and that'll be it for the last vestiges of democracy in this nation

[baseline bum]

too many reasonable people weary of Joes age and health.

No one gives a shit about that, it's about inflation

[CosmicCowboy]

Trump's going to win and that'll be it for the last vestiges of democracy in this nation

meh. All things pass and the pendulum swings. Speaking of "Democracy" some (not all) of these Trump charges aren't exactly democratic and are clearly political hit pieces on a political opponent.

[ChumpDumper]

Trump's going to win and that'll be it for the last vestiges of democracy in this nation

Pretty much. America is full of angry white old men and bro morons who actively want to throw the baby out with the bathwater because of their own petty grievances and thirst for status -- or they actively downplay the threat to democracy and their way of life.

We're counting on women and minorities to save us from ourselves. Probably won't be enough.

[ChumpDumper]

meh. All things pass and the pendulum swings. Speaking of "Democracy" some (not all) of these Trump charges aren't exactly democratic and are clearly political hit pieces on a political opponent.

Since when are criminal cases supposed to be democratic?

He either did the crimes or he didn't.

[Thread]

Abortion might be as big an issue.
Wonder if the younger set will mobilize and hit the booth? Can e voting take place? LoL The of age pregnancy capable sector really want's access.

Agree it's going to be flocked up and i look for plenty of shenanigans to still take place.

Some of the promises coming out of Trumplers mouth will no doubt be hilarious.

Yep, once you've crossed that line of conspiring to murder your baby you've committed yourself to that future, evermore. And thus have to defend that murder by brazening it out to the end that is always the same. It's human, which of course does not bode well for Trump's stance on abortion as a quantity of Americans will march to those polls to ward off the consequence of their choice to murder their blood.

[Thread]

Trump's going to win and that'll be it for the last vestiges of democracy in this nation

Please. You already tore the scant bit of Democracy that still existed when he made President. Day 1 you threatened to blow him up. Last Day, General Milley threatened to shoot him to death. Twixt Day 1 & Last Day you threatened to cut his damn head off.

[Thread]

Yep, once you've crossed that line of conspiring to murder your baby you've committed yourself to that future, evermore. And thus have to defend that murder by brazening it out to the end that is always the same. It's human, which of course does not bode well for Trump's stance on abortion as a quantity of Americans will march to those polls to ward off the consequence of their choice to murder their blood.


Pretty much. America is full of angry white old men and bro morons who actively want to throw the baby out with the bathwater because of their own petty grievances and thirst for status -- or they actively downplay the threat to democracy and their way of life.

We're counting on women and minorities to save us from ourselves. Probably won't be enough.

[Thread]

Incredible to me the Dem's could not come up with a viable candidate.

I also fear Trumpler will win by default, too many reasonable people weary of Joes age and health.

They had no choice, they can have their cake & eat it too by brazening it out with Biden. They fucked up once with RBG, they ain't making that mistake again, ever.

[MultiTroll]

No one gives a shit about that, it's about inflation
Too many will base Joes age on being the reason for inflation.
His perceived inability to overcome root causes.

One of which is Repug cock blocking of a decent spending bill.

Face it, these phucks Dem or Rep don't give 2 shits about the taxpayers.

[baseline bum]

meh. All things pass and the pendulum swings. Speaking of "Democracy" some (not all) of these Trump charges aren't exactly democratic and are clearly political hit pieces on a political opponent.

Stop being stupid. The guy tried to overthrow the government and pressure state officials to steal the election for him.

[hater]

I cannot imagine this country permitting another Trump Presidency, CC. They threatened to slaughter him (and members of his family) a half-dozen times & ways last time he made President. You can feel the boil up already out at CNN & MSNBC.

Let us proceed...

Yup

Trump 2.0 is not going to happen

The psychophats will literally die on this hill.

As I called yesterday. The nukes will be flying before Trump is allowed back in the WH.

Lunatics will probably pull a Zelensky and cancel elections due to "security" reasons.

[ChumpDumper]

Yup

Trump 2.0 is not going to happen

The psychophats will literally die on this hill.

As I called yesterday. The nukes will be flying before Trump is allowed back in the WH.

Lunatics will probably pull a Zelensky and cancel elections due to "security" reasons.

Roads.

[hater]

War with NATO will start in Poland sometime this summer

Trump n Co will be labeled security threats and he will most likely face house arrest

If there's resistance nukes will fly. And boots will populate US cities.

Calling it now....

[baseline bum]

Yup

Trump 2.0 is not going to happen

The psychophats will literally die on this hill.

As I called yesterday. The nukes will be flying before Trump is allowed back in the WH.

Lunatics will probably pull a Zelensky and cancel elections due to "security" reasons.

You want to see nukes flying Trump's your man after he's back in the WH

[hater]

You want to see nukes flying Trump's your man after he's back in the WH

So many years and you still have it ass backwards.

Shitlery was gonna start ww3 if she had won in 16.

Thank God

We dodged a bullet :tu

[baseline bum]

So many years and you still have it backwards.

Shitlery was gonna start ww3 if she had won.

Thank God

We dodged a bullet :tu

Trump wanted to nuke North Korea, and bitched about why we couldn't use our nukes.

[hater]

Trump wanted to nuke North Korea, and bitched about why we couldn't use our nukes.

Then he met his buddy Kim Kong and they watched the sunset together :tu

Shitler was ready to use our air force to defend her defective fetus in Syria called ISIS.

We dodged a bullet :tu

[baseline bum]

Then he met his buddy Kim Kong and they watched the sunset together :tu

Shitler was ready to use our air force to defend her defective fetus in Syria called ISIS.

We dodged a bullet :tu

Anyways I'm checking out of the hater rodeo

[MultiTroll]

Rump wanted to nuke hurricanes tho. :rollin

[CosmicCowboy]

Stop being stupid. The guy tried to overthrow the government and pressure state officials to steal the election for him.

Those are valid. The porn star stuff and the quibbling over appraisals were pretty much bullshit.

[hater]

Rump wanted to nuke hurricanes tho. :rollin

Yeah saw that on the gorilla network :lmao

[MultiTroll]

Yeah saw that on the gorilla network :lmao
Not to worry, your food stamps delivery will continue under Joe.
The proper intervention was made.

The website of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the U.S. government agency that tracks changes in weather and ocean conditions, has a page explaining (https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd-faq/#hurricane-mitigation) why scientists don't recommend disrupting hurricanes with nuclear weapons.
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"Apart from the fact that this might not even alter the storm, this approach neglects the problem that the released radioactive fallout would fairly quickly move with the tradewinds to affect land areas and cause devastating environmental problems," the page states. Needless to say, this is not a good idea."

[MultiTroll]

Dumped into the eye of the hatercane: :lol

1165954132202655744

[Spurs Homer]

hahahahaha!

Cosmic kuntboy always returns to his cult leader gtfo

trump lost by 7 million votes - BEFORE he attempted a coup -

add another few million who have watched him get indicted for 91 FELONIES

and you have 150 yr old biden sweeping the floor with this disgusting criminal traitor...

but keep putting faith in koch bros bought and paid for POLLS!

[Ef-man]

hahahahaha!

Cosmic kuntboy always returns to his cult leader gtfo

trump lost by 7 million votes - BEFORE he attempted a coup -

add another few million who have watched him get indicted for 91 FELONIES

and you have 150 yr old biden sweeping the floor with this disgusting criminal traitor...

but keep putting faith in koch bros bought and paid for POLLS!

Worse, Yam Tits won Iowa with fewer than 57,000 votes against 3 non-white opponents in the GOP Midwest.

It does not look good for Yam Tits.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Who do you think will take it? I'm beginning to grudgingly accept that Trump is probably going to win. He has cleaned up his messaging and Biden continues to mentally go downhill. I think the border will end up being the defining issue that puts Trump over the top. What a fucked up election.

Biden will win re-election. College area voting in places like Dane county Wisconsin, Penn and Penn St, and big city suburbs in general in places like GA/AZ and Philadelphia itself, will keep zooming to the left both in terms of margins and in terms of turnout.

Though I think Trump narrowly wins Georgia because there really isn't much else on that ticket this year; the Dems seem to be withdrawing funding there and essentially punting the state away in 2024. Biden won't flip back NC or Florida, either. Trump's next best bet is Michigan because it's the most economically elastic state, the Detroit suburbs are a mixed bag unlike Philly, and the union white vote trending right and an open senate seat there which the GOP might be a slight favorite in. Biden takes PA, AZ, and WI, the senate in those three go blue as well, which should be enough to get Biden to 270, along with holding states like NV (POTUS and senate level), VA (POTUS and senate level), NH, MN, IL, ME 3/4, NE-02, etc.

Biden 272 - Trump 266

Senate 47D - 53R

House 219D - 216R



Worse, Yam Tits won Iowa with fewer than 57,000 votes against 3 non-white opponents in the GOP Midwest.

It does not look good for Yam Tits.
Italians aren't white now? Dafuq? The low turnout was due to the temperature being fucking -7 with the wind chill around -29 and the roads covered in ice and snow.


People getting excited over Iowa.

Look at the turnout...
The hardline Trumpers will still turn up.
But this is not 2016, people know he is a lying sac of shit.
The counterargument is.... this is not 2016, Biden is not Obama, and GOP pundits and independent populists, the average middle America man had a lot less to complain about under Obama's second term. Gas was actually cheaper in 2016 under Obama than Trump in 2018 or 2019, though it has been consistently higher in all four of Biden's years than it has since the beginning of Obama's second term. Inflation during Obama's last two years were not a concern.

[pgardn]

People getting excited over Iowa.

Look at the turnout...
The hardline Trumpers will still turn up.
But this is not 2016, people know he is a lying sac of shit.

[pgardn]

Those are valid. The porn star stuff and the quibbling over appraisals were pretty much bullshit.

Your second sentence.
This is why banks with any sense whatsoever dont lend Trump money when his collateral is real estate.
He is a total con man. Its why his various businesses and School shut down. He was sued and settled for 25 million on the Trump U. Thats not BS, thats fraud.

[Thread]

Yup

Trump 2.0 is not going to happen

The psychophats will literally die on this hill.

As I called yesterday. The nukes will be flying before Trump is allowed back in the WH.

Lunatics will probably pull a Zelensky and cancel elections due to "security" reasons.

hater

[Thread]

Your second sentence.
This is why banks with any sense whatsoever dont lend Trump money when his collateral is real estate.
He is a total con man. Its why his various businesses and School shut down. He was sued and settled for 25 million on the Trump U. Thats not BS, thats fraud.

Nah, he made President. That's all it took.

Let us proceed...

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Biden will win re-election. College area voting in places like Dane county Wisconsin, Penn and Penn St, and big city suburbs in general in places like GA/AZ and Philadelphia itself, will keep zooming to the left both in terms of margins and in terms of turnout.

Though I think Trump narrowly wins Georgia because there really isn't much else on that ticket this year; the Dems seem to be withdrawing funding there and essentially punting the state away in 2024. Biden won't flip back NC or Florida, either. Trump's next best bet is Michigan because it's the most economically elastic state, the Detroit suburbs are a mixed bag unlike Philly, and the union white vote trending right and an open senate seat there which the GOP might be a slight favorite in. Biden takes PA, AZ, and WI, the senate in those three go blue as well, which should be enough to get Biden to 270, along with holding states like NV (POTUS and senate level), VA (POTUS and senate level), NH, MN, IL, ME 3/4, NE-02, etc.

Biden 272 - Trump 266

Senate 47D - 53R

House 219D - 216R



Italians aren't white now? Dafuq? The low turnout was due to the temperature being fucking -7 with the wind chill around -29 and the roads covered in ice and snow.


The counterargument is.... this is not 2016, Biden is not Obama, and GOP pundits and independent populists, the average middle America man had a lot less to complain about under Obama's second term. Gas was actually cheaper in 2016 under Obama than Trump in 2018 or 2019, though it has been consistently higher in all four of Biden's years than it has since the beginning of Obama's second term. Inflation during Obama's last two years were not a concern.

No, not since Hopper set Walken straight about it...-True Romance-'93

...then?..."I'll take that Chesterfield now."

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People getting excited over Iowa.

Look at the turnout...
The hardline Trumpers will still turn up.
But this is not 2016, people know he is a lying sac of shit.

Has you up at dawn of a hump day, by God, peegsteen.

Hey, hey, dad, grab Milley and your coats and c'mon.

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Worse, Yam Tits won Iowa with fewer than 57,000 votes against 3 non-white opponents in the GOP Midwest.

It does not look good for Yam Tits.

But on this fuckin' day it has you up & at 'em, Effy.

He made President, that's why we're here.

[Thread]

hahahahaha!

Cosmic kuntboy always returns to his cult leader gtfo

trump lost by 7 million votes - BEFORE he attempted a coup -

add another few million who have watched him get indicted for 91 FELONIES

and you have 150 yr old biden sweeping the floor with this disgusting criminal traitor...

but keep putting faith in koch bros bought and paid for POLLS!

He made President, Homer. Just as sure as the turnin' of the earth.

[Ef-man]

Italians aren't white now? Dafuq?


Wops embraced as white in US? :lol

Mama mia, you don't know US history.

https://lifeinitaly.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/ItalianPopulationMascott1888.jpg?itok=RvAbRUyh

[Thread]

Wops embraced as white in US? :lol

Mama mia, you don't know US history.

https://lifeinitaly.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/ItalianPopulationMascott1888.jpg?itok=RvAbRUyh


No, not since Hopper set Walken straight about it...-True Romance-'93

...then?..."I'll take that Chesterfield now."

[ElNono]

If that's the matchup, easy Old Joe win, tbh...

The real concern here is that Old Joe is still alive by the time of the election...

[Blake]

Who do you think will take it? I'm beginning to grudgingly accept that Trump is probably going to win. He has cleaned up his messaging and Biden continues to mentally go downhill. I think the border will end up being the defining issue that puts Trump over the top. What a fucked up election.

Who are you voting for then?

[Thread]

If that's the matchup, easy Old Joe win, tbh...

The real concern here is that Old Joe is still alive by the time of the election...

That's A., sure, Nonostein.

B.? If it is Trump then will he still be alive and not decapitated, or in flight from General Milley on 20 January 2025?

[Millennial_Messiah]

If that's the matchup, easy Old Joe win, tbh...

The real concern here is that Old Joe is still alive by the time of the election...

Easy? Not at all. It will be much closer than 2020, both in the popular vote and ECV.

Factor in no covid this time around and Biden's national favorability rating being -16.7% in 2024 compared to +9.1% in 2020... Trump's has been stagnant hovering around -15% and going nowhere.

[CosmicCowboy]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/05/politics/trump-leads-biden-in-key-swing-states-new-polling-finds/index.html

02:48 - Source: CNN
CNN
—
Former President Donald Trump holds an edge over President Joe Biden in a series of hypothetical matchups among registered voters in four key swing states, new polling from The New York Times and Siena College shows.

In Nevada, a state Biden narrowly carried in the 2020 presidential election, Trump boasts 52% support to Biden’s 41%. Trump also tops Biden in Georgia, a state that was central to his ploy to overturn the last presidential election, with 49% to Biden’s 43%.

Trump leads Biden in Arizona, too, with 49% to the president’s 44%. In Michigan, Trump holds a 5-point lead as well: 48% to Biden’s 43%.

Each poll has a margin of sampling error between 4.4 and 4.8 points, and the head-to-head matchup remains theoretical — primary voting does not begin until next year. Trump overwhelmingly remains the Republican front-runner, while Biden, who drew a primary challenge from Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips last month, is heavily favored for the Democratic nomination.

[ElNono]

Easy? Not at all. It will be much closer than 2020, both in the popular vote and ECV.

Factor in no covid this time around and Biden's national favorability rating being -16.7% in 2024 compared to +9.1% in 2020... Trump's has been stagnant hovering around -15% and going nowhere.

No, really, easy win, IMO.

You're looking at this wrong, it's not about Old Joe at all, it's about how much people dislike the big loser. He's damaged goods.

[Millennial_Messiah]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/05/politics/trump-leads-biden-in-key-swing-states-new-polling-finds/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/05/politics/trump-leads-biden-in-key-swing-states-new-polling-finds/index.html)

02:48 - Source: CNN
CNN
—
Former President Donald Trump holds an edge over President Joe Biden in a series of hypothetical matchups among registered voters in four key swing states, new polling from The New York Times and Siena College shows.

In Nevada, a state Biden narrowly carried in the 2020 presidential election, Trump boasts 52% support to Biden’s 41%. Trump also tops Biden in Georgia, a state that was central to his ploy to overturn the last presidential election, with 49% to Biden’s 43%.

Trump leads Biden in Arizona, too, with 49% to the president’s 44%. In Michigan, Trump holds a 5-point lead as well: 48% to Biden’s 43%.

Each poll has a margin of sampling error between 4.4 and 4.8 points, and the head-to-head matchup remains theoretical — primary voting does not begin until next year. Trump overwhelmingly remains the Republican front-runner, while Biden, who drew a primary challenge from Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips last month, is heavily favored for the Democratic nomination.
Old data, but the point still stands. As per RCP, Trump is currently ahead by Likely margins in Michigan and Georgia, strong Lean margins in Arizona and Nevada (but they've overestimated the GOP lately, especially Nevada), and a low lean to tilt margin in PA, while WI keeps going back and forth.

North Carolina which the Dems are targeting for 2024 doesn't look like it will be contested. Trump winning in aggregate polls there by nearly double digits. The House gerrymander there could help Trump run up the score a bit there, too.

Also, today's latest New Hampshire primary poll has Trump up +16 over Haley, 50% to 34%. Primary is six days from now; it's over.


No, really, easy win, IMO.

You're looking at this wrong, it's not about Old Joe at all, it's about how much people dislike the big loser. He's damaged goods.
People don't dislike Trump MORE than they disliked him in 2020, though. The difference is that Biden himself is equally or even more disliked than Trump now when he was net liked in 2020.

A lot of left leaning independents that broke for Biden in 2020 will likely be voting third party, and we expect at least three strong third party candidates to be on the ballots in 2024.

[ElNono]

People don't dislike Trump MORE than they disliked him in 2020, though. The difference is that Biden himself is equally or even more disliked than Trump now when he was net liked in 2020.

A lot of left leaning independents that broke for Biden in 2020 will likely be voting third party, and we expect at least three strong third party candidates to be on the ballots in 2024.

No. Again, you're rationalizing this wrong because you really, really want an (R) president.

Old Joe is basically non-threatening in any way, regardless if he's more or less liked. If the race would be Kamala or AOC vs Trump, then you would have a point.

IMO, there would need to be an absolutely major economic debacle from here to the election to make this competitive.

[Thread]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/05/politics/trump-leads-biden-in-key-swing-states-new-polling-finds/index.html

02:48 - Source: CNN
CNN
—
Former President Donald Trump holds an edge over President Joe Biden in a series of hypothetical matchups among registered voters in four key swing states, new polling from The New York Times and Siena College shows.

In Nevada, a state Biden narrowly carried in the 2020 presidential election, Trump boasts 52% support to Biden’s 41%. Trump also tops Biden in Georgia, a state that was central to his ploy to overturn the last presidential election, with 49% to Biden’s 43%.

Trump leads Biden in Arizona, too, with 49% to the president’s 44%. In Michigan, Trump holds a 5-point lead as well: 48% to Biden’s 43%.

Each poll has a margin of sampling error between 4.4 and 4.8 points, and the head-to-head matchup remains theoretical — primary voting does not begin until next year. Trump overwhelmingly remains the Republican front-runner, while Biden, who drew a primary challenge from Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips last month, is heavily favored for the Democratic nomination.

CNN prepping the ground to goose the Democrat voters to get their mail-in ballots congregated and at the ready. It's that (fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me) thingy. They ain't gonna get the latter this time around. They're goin' after Trump like the last pork chop on the plate with everything they got including "guns, and knives and things." as Barney Fife testified to in that "Andy Griffith Show" show episode..."The Big House."

But that old man, CC? He already made President. You know it. That old fuck in the White House knows it, and Trump's assassins know it. What's more? That old man knows that they all know that he knows they know it. That's the best part.

I love that old man with every beat of me heart.

[ElNono]

Andy, remember the frustration you had with Trump post-2020, to the point of aligning with fat fingers?

You've grown out of it and rationalized it out because you're the prototypical GOP voter. That's not the case for the rest of the electorate.

Midterms "red tsunami" that never was should've been a warning sign, but somehow it wasn't taken seriously.

And unfortunately, there's nothing Trump can do to right that ship. The best that can happen to the GOP is that Trump doesn't get the nomination. Be it because of legal woes or whatever.

[CosmicCowboy]

No. Again, you're rationalizing this wrong because you really, really want an (R) president.

Old Joe is basically non-threatening in any way, regardless if he's more or less liked. If the race would be Kamala or AOC vs Trump, then you would have a point.

IMO, there would need to be an absolutely major economic debacle from here to the election to make this competitive.

Maybe so, but the primary issues are going to be the economy and illegal immigration and Old Joe loses both of those.

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Old data, but the point still stands. As per RCP, Trump is currently ahead by Likely margins in Michigan and Georgia, strong Lean margins in Arizona and Nevada (but they've overestimated the GOP lately, especially Nevada), and a low lean to tilt margin in PA, while WI keeps going back and forth.

North Carolina which the Dems are targeting for 2024 doesn't look like it will be contested. Trump winning in aggregate polls there by nearly double digits. The House gerrymander there could help Trump run up the score a bit there, too.

Also, today's latest New Hampshire primary poll has Trump up +16 over Haley, 50% to 34%. Primary is six days from now; it's over.


People don't dislike Trump MORE than they disliked him in 2020, though. The difference is that Biden himself is equally or even more disliked than Trump now when he was net liked in 2020.

A lot of left leaning independents that broke for Biden in 2020 will likely be voting third party, and we expect at least three strong third party candidates to be on the ballots in 2024.

You're mistaken. An anticipatory run this time around may end in his murder to put a stop to it once & for all.

God bless him & keep him. Amen.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Maybe so, but the primary issues are going to be the economy and illegal immigration and Old Joe loses both of those.

Yes. Particularly inflation and gas prices which don't hurt coastal elites that vote generally democrat anyway, but they absolutely kill the swing voters in the Midwest.

ElNono is overlooking that the general public sees "Old Joe" as culpable as to why gas is much higher than it was from 2014 to 2020 since 2021, and grocery and basic goods and services prices have gone up substantially and in many cases doubled or worse, while wages and salaries have essentially stagnated and rent and housing prices continue to have soared and you can't blame Covid anymore.

People forget, not only was gas much cheaper under Trump, but also in Obama's last two years in office... gas prices (and inflation) really weren't a talking point or campaign issue in 2016. Free trade vs. fair trade, rebuilding the upper Midwest industrial areas, ISIS, and to an extent Obamacare were. Trade was an especially big issue that year.


You're mistaken. An anticipatory run this time around may end in his murder to put a stop to it once & for all.

God bless him & keep him. Amen.
If the left assassinates him, we will absolutely have Civil War II and conservatives will win. We have far more guns, person for person, and are far better at using them, person for person. The military will turn against the deep state. It will be bloody, but perhaps much needed.


Andy, look at it this way.

Trump is the Cowboys, locked and loaded for a title run.

Sleepy Joe is the Packers with Jordan Love.

No... better analogy is::

Trump is the 2018 Patriots, fresh off winning on a miraculous, historically amazing comeback in 2016 but just narrowly and barely losing the next time around despite having the highest numbers performance in defeat.

Sleepy Joe is the 2018 Chiefs with MVP Mahomes, at home, the favorites to win, at Arrowhead, the incumbent darlings.

[monosylab1k]

Yes. Particularly inflation and gas prices which don't hurt coastal elites that vote generally democrat anyway, but they absolutely kill the swing voters in the Midwest.

ElNono is overlooking that the general public sees "Old Joe" as culpable as to why gas is much higher than it was from 2014 to 2020 since 2021, and grocery and basic goods and services prices have gone up substantially and in many cases doubled or worse, while wages and salaries have essentially stagnated and rent and housing prices continue to have soared and you can't blame Covid anymore.

People forget, not only was gas much cheaper under Trump, but also in Obama's last two years in office... gas prices (and inflation) really weren't a talking point or campaign issue in 2016. Free trade vs. fair trade, rebuilding the upper Midwest industrial areas, ISIS, and to an extent Obamacare were. Trade was an especially big issue that year.

Andy, look at it this way.

Trump is the Cowboys, locked and loaded for a title run.

Sleepy Joe is the Packers with Jordan Love.

[Blake]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/05/politics/trump-leads-biden-in-key-swing-states-new-polling-finds/index.html

02:48 - Source: CNN
CNN
—
Former President Donald Trump holds an edge over President Joe Biden in a series of hypothetical matchups among registered voters in four key swing states, new polling from The New York Times and Siena College shows.

In Nevada, a state Biden narrowly carried in the 2020 presidential election, Trump boasts 52% support to Biden’s 41%. Trump also tops Biden in Georgia, a state that was central to his ploy to overturn the last presidential election, with 49% to Biden’s 43%.

Trump leads Biden in Arizona, too, with 49% to the president’s 44%. In Michigan, Trump holds a 5-point lead as well: 48% to Biden’s 43%.

Each poll has a margin of sampling error between 4.4 and 4.8 points, and the head-to-head matchup remains theoretical — primary voting does not begin until next year. Trump overwhelmingly remains the Republican front-runner, while Biden, who drew a primary challenge from Minnesota Rep. Dean Phillips last month, is heavily favored for the Democratic nomination.

So who are you voting for?

[ElNono]

Maybe so, but the primary issues are going to be the economy and illegal immigration and Old Joe loses both of those.

Not really, no. It's going to be the economy and the end of democracy as we know it, and Old Joe wins on those by a long, long mile. Like not even close.

[baseline bum]

Old data, but the point still stands. As per RCP, Trump is currently ahead by Likely margins in Michigan and Georgia, strong Lean margins in Arizona and Nevada (but they've overestimated the GOP lately, especially Nevada), and a low lean to tilt margin in PA, while WI keeps going back and forth.

North Carolina which the Dems are targeting for 2024 doesn't look like it will be contested. Trump winning in aggregate polls there by nearly double digits. The House gerrymander there could help Trump run up the score a bit there, too.

Also, today's latest New Hampshire primary poll has Trump up +16 over Haley, 50% to 34%. Primary is six days from now; it's over.


People don't dislike Trump MORE than they disliked him in 2020, though. The difference is that Biden himself is equally or even more disliked than Trump now when he was net liked in 2020.

A lot of left leaning independents that broke for Biden in 2020 will likely be voting third party, and we expect at least three strong third party candidates to be on the ballots in 2024.

Biden being Netenyahu's lap dog is going to cost him Michigan with all the Muslims there. Right now I think I'd peg it 70/30 in the nazi's favor over the mummy in the general.

[ElNono]

Don't get me wrong, it's actually interesting what the view is from the GOP lenses. The point is that lens really doesn't matter. Much like the blue lens doesn't really matter.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not really, no. It's going to be the economy and the end of democracy as we know it, and Old Joe wins on those by a long, long mile. Like not even close.

Except, nobody in 2024 gives a rat's ass about J6, 2020 shenanigans, or covid. Lol @ muh demoocracy / muh insurrooctionists. Nobody in 2024 gives a shit about that.

As for the economy, Trump is polling over 30% ahead of Biden on that issue.

Biden has muhbortion, Trump scandals, and that's about it. He can't even claim Trump is anti social security/medicare or anti union. :lol


Biden being Netenyahu's lap dog is going to cost him Michigan with all the Muslims there. Right now I think I'd peg it 70/30 in the nazi's favor over the mummy in the general.
Trump will win Michigan. For the first time since 1992, Michigan will vote to the right of PA and WI, and I've said it for a long time.

While that part of Wayne County votes third party and to the right of the past 20 years, that's not why Trump will win Michigan. The outer west and southern downriver parts of Wayne County is all white working class as well as Macomb County and that's zooming right. The Dems are pretty much maxed out in Washtenaw and Oakland is D+10 or so but has trends in both directions. Also, massive room for the GOP and Trump to grow upstate in the rural parts of the state, where the Dems are already pretty much maxed out. The Dems might gain a couple points out west in Kent and Ottawa counties but that isn't going to be nearly enough.

Add to that the effect of the open senate seat and I believe you're looking at a net pickup there for the GOP as well.

However I see the opposite happening in Pennsylvania. I don't see the math for Trump or certainly McCormick to win in PA. Not only is it Biden's home state but more importantly the Philadelphia suburbs especially Bucks County is trending blue off a cliff while the rural areas are mostly maxed out for Trump. Trump could perform slightly better in the Pittsburgh exurbs, parts of NE PA, and Erie County, and it still won't be enough to offset what's going on around the collar of Philadelphia.


So who are you voting for?

I'm gonna guess CC probably votes for RFK Jr. if he's on the ballot. Perhaps Mapstead will be on the ballot but that's looking less likely that the (L) party gets on the ballot this year.


Don't get me wrong, it's actually interesting what the view is from the GOP lenses. The point is that lens really doesn't matter. Much like the blue lens doesn't really matter.
The blue lens, i.e. from people like LTE on Youtube, has been calling for a very close race for months now.

Democrat Gen Z podcaster LTE has Trump winning narrowly in his latest forecast by virtue of narrow wins in MI and WI.

I'm less confident about WI. The GOP turnout machine there is awful but more importantly the conservative leaning people there are generally less enthusiastically Republican or pro-Trump than their Michigan counterparts. They're typically apathetic on politics and in general the Democrats have an enthusiasm advantage in Wisconsin while there is roughly equal enthusiasm on both sides in Michigan, or slightly greater in favor of Trump and conservative populism. The GOP certainly has moderately better demographics in WI than in MI but WI has a ton more progressive hipster whites, especially in Dane County and they're growing in Ozaukee as well.

[ElNono]

Of course I can be completely wrong about this, and I'll own it, like I've always have.

[ElNono]

Except, nobody in 2024 gives a rat's ass about J6, 2020 shenanigans, or covid. Lol @ muh demoocracy / muh insurrooctionists. Nobody in 2024 gives a shit about that.

As for the economy, Trump is polling over 30% ahead of Biden on that issue.

Biden has muhbortion, Trump scandals, and that's about it. He can't even claim Trump is anti social security/medicare or anti union. :lol

This is what I mean when I say you rationalized all that stuff because you really, really want an (R) president.

It was the same mistake that made you think you had a "red tsunami" in the midterms. But do keep overlooking all that and rely on polls that are basically sampling old people who are the only ones that will pick up a phone these days.

[Blake]

Don't get me wrong, it's actually interesting what the view is from the GOP lenses. The point is that lens really doesn't matter. Much like the blue lens doesn't really matter.

There's no way any of them really want Trump but they've got no choice.

[ElNono]

Let me call the polls right now, so we can get that out of the way. Barring a major economic catastrophe, most polls will "tighten" close to the election.

No pollster wants to be on the hook for being completely wrong again, so we should all be used to the hedging at this point.

[ElNono]

There's no way any of them really want Trump but they've got no choice.

They do want Trump. Or rather, they want an (R) president, whoever it is. Some of them do anyways.

[Blake]

They do want Trump. Or rather, they want an (R) president, whoever it is. Some of them do anyways.

They don't want really want him. They need him.

[Thread]

Andy, look at it this way.

Trump is the Cowboys, locked and loaded for a title run.

Sleepy Joe is the Packers with Jordan Love.

...& you're a shit for posting that information on this site, mono.

[monosylab1k]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

:lmao

[Thread]

They don't want really want him. They need him.

Horseshit, Blake, and you know it: they want him to beat "you" so bad they can taste it.

To make America great again, yes, absolutely. So they can leave this world knowing they won not once, mind you, Blake, but twice and forever.

[Thread]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

:lmao

I ain't goin' nowhere and I ain't ever a quittin' on spankin' that ass over this issue. You're a shit for a it and will stay that way.

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

They do want Trump. Or rather, they want an (R) president, whoever it is. Some of them do anyways.

No, absolutely not, "They" learned thru Trump that there is a RINO around every fucking corner (AND NOW THEY COULD ACTUALLY SEE THEM IN THE BROAD DAYLIGHT.)

They want TrumpPERIOD

[CosmicCowboy]

Not really, no. It's going to be the economy and the end of democracy as we know it, and Old Joe wins on those by a long, long mile. Like not even close.

"end of democracy"

:lmao

damn! You really did drink the koolaid. :lmao

[monosylab1k]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

:lmao

[Tyronn Lue]

Andy, remember the frustration you had with Trump post-2020, to the point of aligning with fat fingers?

You've grown out of it and rationalized it out because you're the prototypical GOP voter. That's not the case for the rest of the electorate.

Midterms "red tsunami" that never was should've been a warning sign, but somehow it wasn't taken seriously.

And unfortunately, there's nothing Trump can do to right that ship. The best that can happen to the GOP is that Trump doesn't get the nomination. Be it because of legal woes or whatever.
Most of their voters are retarded or illiterate, they believe in UFOs. They will ride that shit into the ground then cry more when he loses again. This time they need to invade a library or fitness center.

[Thread]

Let me call the polls right now, so we can get that out of the way. Barring a major economic catastrophe, most polls will "tighten" close to the election.

No pollster wants to be on the hook for being completely wrong again, so we should all be used to the hedging at this point.

Those poll are manhandled and steered to accomplish their needs to wake and raise Democrats up and out the door to the Post Office, the polls, or, both. This time, this time they're starting early, they're not going to get caught with their pants down like in '15-'16. No! They got to live with that old man as President, but they'll stop him by any meaning necessary to keep him from going back in that White House...by like Biden vows..."Whatever it takes."

If you were willing to decapitate him last time, were willing to blow him up last time, you're capable of anything this time.

[Thread]

Most of their voters are retarded or illiterate, they believe in UFOs. They will ride that shit into the ground then cry more when he loses again. This time they need to invade a library or fitness center.

Or, burn down the upper Western Seaboard like you did last time.

[Thread]

Don't get me wrong, it's actually interesting what the view is from the GOP lenses. The point is that lens really doesn't matter. Much like the blue lens doesn't really matter.

True, all that matters is Trump made President. That's it & that's all.

[Tyronn Lue]

Or, burn down the upper Western Seaboard like you did last time.
Hopefully a few more get shot.

[ChumpDumper]

"end of democracy"

:lmao

damn! You really did drink the koolaid. :lmao

Barring death, what would stop Trump from trying again and succeeding this time?

[Thread]

Hopefully a few more get shot.

Or, 4 do the Dutch & 1 the bear spray.

I got 5.
U got 1.

I win!!!

[Thread]

Barring death, what would stop Trump from trying again and succeeding this time?

He already succeeded, that's why we're here this afternoon. You can't get over it, and I won't let you.

You missed your chance, and he knew it when he found that unlocked gate and snuck on in there with those 2 blooded sons.

By God, you let go of the wheel, Dumps.

[CosmicCowboy]

Barring death, what would stop Trump from trying again and succeeding this time?

democrat hyperbole and hysterical talking point.

If he really won in 2024 he would not be running for reelection in 2028.

Totally different scenario.

If you really think he would try to make himself President for life you really are delusional.

[baseline bum]

"end of democracy"

:lmao

damn! You really did drink the koolaid. :lmao

Putting the guy in power who tried to overthrow the government on January 6th 2021 and tried to get states he lost to award him their electoral votes anyways would almost certainly be the end of the shred democracy left in this nation.

[baseline bum]

democrat hyperbole and hysterical talking point.

If he really won in 2024 he would not be running for reelection in 2028.

Totally different scenario.

If you really think he would try to make himself President for life you really are delusional.

In the 2020 election he said he'd go for a third term after getting elected to his second. Stop being such a dumbass and acting like Trump isn't serious when he says something.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Putting the guy in power who tried to overthrow the government on January 6th 2021 and tried to get states he lost to award him their electoral votes anyways would almost certainly be the end of the shred democracy left in this nation.

Incorrect.

Actually having overturned the election would have, potentially, but it didn't happen.

He's not going to have 67% of Senators and Congress on his side that would be required to tweak or overturn the 22nd Amendment.

That's it, and that's all.

Trump is no more a "threat to democracy" than the next guy.

The biggest threat to democracy is AI and big tech oligopolies.


In the 2020 election he said he'd go for a third term after getting elected to his second. Stop being such a dumbass and acting like Trump isn't serious when he says something.

Again, that would require a 67% combined aye vote to change or eliminate the 22nd Amendment, which will never happen.


If you really don't think Trump will try it, then you're just plain stupid
Sure he might WANT to, but he'd have a better chance realistically of overthrowing the NK government or turning China capitalist.

[Joseph Kony]

If you really think he would try to make himself President for life you really are delusional.

If you really don't think Trump will try it, then you're just plain stupid

[CosmicCowboy]

In the 2020 election he said he'd go for a third term after getting elected to his second. Stop being such a dumbass and acting like Trump isn't serious when he says something.

LMAO you believe everything Trump says? He's a troll.

[CosmicCowboy]

If you really don't think Trump will try it, then you're just plain stupid

Could say the same about you guys.

[spurraider21]

Abortion is not a federal issue. There will never be consensus at the federal level to go either way...either ban or blanket approve. Like it or not, the Supreme court made it a state issue.
false

congress could still pass a bill basically codifying what was in Roe

SCOTUS said its not constitutionally protected, they didnt say congress was powerless

[CosmicCowboy]

false

congress could still pass a bill basically codifying what was in Roe

SCOTUS said its not constitutionally protected, they didnt say congress was powerless

Tell me how the numbers work to get that done.

[spurraider21]

Who are you voting for then?
hes gonna be one of those "undecided voters" in the post-debate focus group

[spurraider21]

Tell me how the numbers work to get that done.
im not saying its likely to happen. im just saying it still very much is a federal issue that will be hammered during elections

[spurraider21]

Biden being Netenyahu's lap dog is going to cost him Michigan with all the Muslims there. Right now I think I'd peg it 70/30 in the nazi's favor over the mummy in the general.
yeah theyre going with the "ban all muslims" guy who made every gesture to suck israel's dick like moving the embassy and all that... to represent the pro-muslim side?

[CosmicCowboy]

im not saying its likely to happen. im just saying it still very much is a federal issue that will be hammered during elections

Until either side can get 60 votes in the senate it's not a federal issue.

[baseline bum]

LMAO you believe everything Trump says? He's a troll.

Yes, I believe it when he says bad things since he usually follows through with them. Like when he said he wasn't going to accept the results of the 2020 election if he lost and then tried to overthrow the government and overturn the election results in Georgia for example.

[baseline bum]

yeah theyre going with the "ban all muslims" guy who made every gesture to suck israel's dick like moving the embassy and all that... to represent the pro-muslim side?

A lot will bothsides it and stay home.

[spurraider21]

Until either side can get 60 votes in the senate it's not a federal issue.
ok so nothing is ever a federal issue because no party will get 60 senate seats

[spurraider21]

tbh im more confident in a 2024 biden win right now than i was in a 2020 biden win at this time in 2020 (or at least as of the time he became the nominee)

with that said, im more concerned/unsettled about the prospect of a trump 2024 win and what that would look like than i would have been with a trump 2020 win

[baseline bum]

If you really don't think Trump will try it, then you're just plain stupid

He's willing to piss the nation away for a couple of points of tax cuts, hence his constant interference for Trump. As if Trump was running against Fidel Castro instead of a right wing fuck like Biden.

[ChumpDumper]

democrat hyperbole and hysterical talking point.

If he really won in 2024 he would not be running for reelection in 2028.

Totally different scenario.

If you really think he would try to make himself President for life you really are delusional.

So he won't try it because you're in denial.

OK.

[baseline bum]

Again, that would require a 67% combined aye vote to change or eliminate the 22nd Amendment, which will never happen.


LOL the same constitution that was fine with slavery for almost 80 years being looked upon as if it could be some savior for the nation.

[ChumpDumper]

Until either side can get 60 votes in the senate it's not a federal issue.

lol of course it is. Just because you're not motivated to vote because of women's issues, that doesn't mean no one will be.

[CosmicCowboy]

lol of course it is. Just because you're not motivated to vote because of women's issues, that doesn't mean no one will be.

Name the 60 senators that would vote for it.

That's right.

You can't and they won't.

I'm pro choice but also a realist.

[Spurminator]

im not saying its likely to happen. im just saying it still very much is a federal issue that will be hammered during elections

Should be. But don't forget that Democrats are terrible at messaging.

[baseline bum]

tbh im more confident in a 2024 biden win right now than i was in a 2020 biden win at this time in 2020 (or at least as of the time he became the nominee)


I'm not, not even close. For whatever reason the American electorate tends to trust the GOP more than the Democrats on the economy even though every GOP president brings recession to the nation. And the economy will be far and away the #1 issue when a shit fast food meal at Whataburger has blown up to $11, when grocery prices have blown up, when utilities have gone way up in price, etc. Biden is fucking cooked unless Trump starts running on confederate statues again like in 2020. 2020 was unwinnable for Trump after getting more than a million Americans killed by his inaction on SARS-CoV-2 and 2024 is probably unwinnable for Biden since he did nothing to slow the price gouging on nearly everything these last couple of years.

[ElNono]

"end of democracy"

:lmao

damn! You really did drink the koolaid. :lmao

sure, ok

[ChumpDumper]

Name the 60 senators that would vote for it.

That's right.

You can't and they won't.

I'm pro choice but also a realist.So anyone who cares about abortion either way won't vote in the federal election?

You are the opposite of a realist.

This is probably the main reason the Democrats have done so well on the federal level since your Supreme Court decision.

[spurraider21]

Name the 60 senators that would vote for it.

That's right.

You can't and they won't.

I'm pro choice but also a realist.
name literally any federal policy you want that is ever at issue during elections

and then tell me how you are getting 60 senators for it

[CosmicCowboy]

name literally any federal policy you want that is ever at issue during elections

and then tell me how you are getting 60 senators for it

If the Democrats would budge on border policy they could easily get 60 votes to aid Ukraine and Israel.

[ElNono]

Abortion is not a federal issue. There will never be consensus at the federal level to go either way...either ban or blanket approve. Like it or not, the Supreme court made it a state issue.

Of course abortion is a federal issue. Why do you think it keeps coming up to the SCOTUS over and over again?

It would stop being a federal issue if the anti-abortion weirdos could live with just having it banned in some States, but they don't.

[spurraider21]

If the Democrats would budge on border policy they could easily get 60 votes to aid Ukraine and Israel.
so which 60 senators again?

[ElNono]

If you really think he would try to make himself President for life you really are delusional.


If you really don't think Trump will try it, then you're just plain stupid


Could say the same about you guys.

You really can't, though.

[CosmicCowboy]

Of course abortion is a federal issue. Why do you think it keeps coming up to the SCOTUS over and over again?

It would stop being a federal issue if the anti-abortion weirdos could live with just having it banned in some States, but they don't.

I hate the anti abortion bullshit too, but its settled now. It's a state issue.

[ChumpDumper]

I hate the anti abortion bullshit too, but its settled now.Until it isn't.

[Thread]

LOL the same constitution that was fine with slavery for almost 80 years being looked upon as if it could be some savior for the nation.

Well, bum, you took a TO from said constitution and declared open season on President Trump by the following means...blow him up, decapitate him, shoot him to death.

Let us proceed...

[Thread]

I hate the anti abortion bullshit too, but its settled now. It's a state issue.

Murdering babies has no ending.

[baseline bum]

I hate the anti abortion bullshit too, but its settled now. It's a state issue.

Remember back when you said it was already settled by Roe Vs Wade?

[ChumpDumper]

If the Democrats would budge on border policy they could easily get 60 votes to aid Ukraine and Israel.Budge on what?

Looks like Senate Republicans, Democrats and the White House have a general agreement on border legislation. Maybe someone else needs to budge.

[baseline bum]

Shhhhhhh Thread, men are talking

[CosmicCowboy]

so which 60 senators again?

Try to keep up. There is a division between House Republicans and Senate Republicans. The majority of Senate Republicans support aid to Israel and Ukraine.

[Thread]

I hate the anti abortion bullshit too, but its settled now. It's a state issue.

Ipso facto, you must be involved in an abortion somewhere along the route, from the nut to the suction...and now you're looking for an escape route...uh, uh.

[ElNono]

I hate the anti abortion bullshit too, but its settled now. It's a state issue.

It isn't though. Again, this is why we have it coming over and over again to the SCOTUS.

Alito miscalculated completely in Dobbs. He claimed this was a state issue now, and reality demonstrated he couldn't have been more wrong about it.

[CosmicCowboy]

Remember back when you said it was already settled by Roe Vs Wade?

I never said that.

[spurraider21]

Try to keep up. There is a division between House Republicans and Senate Republicans. The majority of Senate Republicans support aid to Israel and Ukraine.
what 60 senators are getting you the border/immigration package you want?

[Thread]

It isn't though. Again, this is why we have it coming over and over again to the SCOTUS.

Alito miscalculated completely in Dobbs. He claimed this was a state issue now, and reality demonstrated he couldn't have been more wrong about it.

...so says El, thru CNN narration.

[ElNono]

Try to keep up. There is a division between House Republicans and Senate Republicans. The majority of Senate Republicans support aid to Israel and Ukraine.

What's going to happen with that is that Israel and Ukraine are still going to get their money and House republicans will not get their border policies, unless they take the deal on the table negotiated by Senators now.

The reality is that Democrats on the Senate have an incentive to negotiate now. After the election, if they lose the Senate, they won't and that'll be the end of any hardline border policy.

[CosmicCowboy]

what 60 senators are getting you the border/immigration package you want?

none. The "5000 illegals a day COMPROMISE" is total bullshit. That's still over 1.8 million a year.

[ElNono]

The whole border/immigration thing is entirely a GOP constructed drama though. I'm not surprised Texans here being worked up about it, but it really doesn't register.

[ChumpDumper]

none. The "5000 illegals a day COMPROMISE" is total bullshit. That's still over 1.8 million a year.

:lol you're acting like 1.8 million individuals a year are coming in to stay.

[Thread]

none. The "5000 illegals a day COMPROMISE" is total bullshit. That's still over 1.8 million a year.

& everybody knows it. Another result, another excuse from Abortion.

[spurraider21]

none.
ok cool, so thanks for confirming immigration should not factor in at all for you when it comes to voting for POTUS

[baseline bum]

ROFL the GOP screeching about illegal immigration when they never propose incarcerating the people who hire them and thus create the demand for it. ROFL the party of protecting the border being led by a guy who hires illegals.

[CosmicCowboy]

:lol you're acting like 1.8 million individuals a year are coming in to stay.

We averaged 10,000 a day in December. And yeah if you don't think they are staying you are delusional.

[ElNono]

There's probably more illegals coming via California anyways. Better for them too, they get healthcare, a democrat membership card, etc.

[Ef-man]

ROFL the GOP screeching about illegal immigration when they never propose incarcerating the people who hire them and thus create the demand for it. ROFL the party of protecting the border being led by a guy who hires illegals.

TBH, his cow intestines certainties really convinced me CC is ducks level savvy so no need to argue any facts or points with him.

[Thread]

We averaged 10,000 a day in December. And yeah if you don't think they are staying you are delusional.

He ain't delusional, not by a jugful he ain't. He's parroting what both sides of the aisle is situating to keep (us) from complaining, or, mashing a panic button. It's the 4-corner stall from North Carolina NCAA basketball. Later than sooner you'll get what you want.

[baseline bum]

There's probably more illegals coming via California anyways. Better for them too, they get healthcare, a democrat membership card, etc.

Need those anchor babies in Texas, or at least Arizona tbh

[Thread]

Shhhhhhh Thread (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320), men are talking

Please, if you turned the other way they'd bring down Trump with a single shot.

[ChumpDumper]

We averaged 10,000 a day in December. And yeah if you don't think they are staying you are delusional.

So your claim is that every single border crossing by an undocumented migrant is an increase in the population of the United States by one.

Cumulative.

lol

[Thread]

So your claim is that every single border crossing by an undocumented migrant is an increase in the population of the United States by one.

Cumulative.

lol


See, he ain't delusional, not by a jugful he ain't. He's parroting what both sides of the aisle is situating to keep (us) from complaining, or, mashing a panic button. It's the 4-corner stall from North Carolina NCAA basketball. Later than sooner you'll get what you want.

[Spurs Homer]

Border issue = HOAX!

[Millennial_Messiah]

name literally any federal policy you want that is ever at issue during elections

and then tell me how you are getting 60 senators for it

Time zone change to permanent DST got all 100/100 senators, from Bernie to Pocahontas to Chucky to Mitchy to Little Marco to Rand Paul to Josh Hawley, fwiw.


Try to keep up. There is a division between House Republicans and Senate Republicans. The majority of Senate Republicans support aid to Israel and Ukraine.

Israel yes, Ukraine no


Name the 60 senators that would vote for it.

That's right.

You can't and they won't.

I'm pro choice but also a realist.
Exactly.


There's probably more illegals coming via California anyways. Better for them too, they get healthcare, a democrat membership card, etc.
You do realize the CA/Mexico border is roughly 1/10 the size of the TX/Mexico border, right?

It's not practical for most of them to cross through thousands of miles of desert just to cross into CA instead of TX.

[spurraider21]

We averaged 10,000 a day in December. And yeah if you don't think they are staying you are delusional.
but you cant name 60 senators who will get you what you want, so this shouldnt matter for you when it comes to deciding who to vote for

[Thread]

Border issue = HOAX!


He ain't delusional, not by a jugful he ain't. He's parroting what both sides of the aisle is situating to keep (us) from complaining, or, mashing a panic button. It's the 4-corner stall from North Carolina NCAA basketball. Later than sooner you'll get what you want.

[Thread]

but you cant name 60 senators who will get you what you want, so this shouldnt matter for you when it comes to deciding who to vote for


See, he too ain't delusional, not by a jugful he ain't. He's parroting what both sides of the aisle is situating to keep (us) from complaining, or, mashing a panic button. It's the 4-corner stall from North Carolina NCAA basketball. Later than sooner you'll get what you want.

[Millennial_Messiah]

but you cant name 60 senators who will get you what you want, so this shouldnt matter for you when it comes to deciding who to vote for
if 2024 is best case scenario for Trump, the GOP could get close to that number, and then you're looking at trying to peel off votes from someone less establishment like Fetterman who might be down & might be able to drag Casey into doing the same

[scott]

Until either side can get 60 votes in the senate it's not a federal issue.

Certainly you know better than this. Regardless of whether a law could ever actually be passed on the federal level, the electorate doesn't think that way. Abortion is an issue on the ballot, because 1) voters think it is and 2) the candidates will play into that.

[scott]

If the Democrats would budge on border policy they could easily get 60 votes to aid Ukraine and Israel.

You're better than this.

"We could get somewhere if the other side would just agree with me" is not some form of high-minded analysis.

[scott]

Trump loses pretty handedly if he is the nominee, especially after he is convicted of multiple felonies this summer.

Best hope for GOP to win the white house is for the 14th Amendment claims to be upheld and used widely before the GOP Convention, forcing them to another candidate. I believe this why you see Conservative Legal Scholars supporting the disqualification claim in amici: they know this is the best route to re-installing sanity into the party.

[CosmicCowboy]

So your claim is that every single border crossing by an undocumented migrant is an increase in the population of the United States by one.

Cumulative.

lol

According to Mayorkas, 85% stay.

[CosmicCowboy]

You're better than this.

"We could get somewhere if the other side would just agree with me" is not some form of high-minded analysis.

I actually remember when politics weren't so polarized and real compromises were made.

[clambake]

According to Mayorkas, 85% stay.

What percent do you think is acceptable?

[CosmicCowboy]

ok cool, so thanks for confirming immigration should not factor in at all for you when it comes to voting for POTUS

By definition US border security is a federal issue. Currently the federal government is abdicating that responsibility.

[CosmicCowboy]

What percent do you think is acceptable?

I think one million duly vetted and legally admitted as per current law is reasonable.

[scott]

I actually remember when politics weren't so polarized and real compromises were made.

"Your side does what I want" is not compromise.

[spurraider21]

By definition US border security is a federal issue. Currently the federal government is abdicating that responsibility.
yeah but you cant get 60 senators to agree so it shouldnt factor into your POTUS vote

[clambake]

I think one million duly vetted and legally admitted as per current law is reasonable.

So, you didn’t like trump about this to begin with.

[CosmicCowboy]

Certainly you know better than this. Regardless of whether a law could ever actually be passed on the federal level, the electorate doesn't think that way. Abortion is an issue on the ballot, because 1) voters think it is and 2) the candidates will play into that.

You are correct that most politicians are habitual liars and will promise to make their side "win" even when they know it will never happen and the mass ignorants will fall for it every time.

[baseline bum]

You are correct that most politicians are habitual liars and will promise to make their side "win" even when they know it will never happen and the mass ignorants will fall for it every time.

Like how you're falling for immigration being an issue when your side is perfectly content to let rich people hire illegals?

[CosmicCowboy]

I dont think anyone is against legal immigration. I also think it's reasonable to disagree with illegal immigration.

[Millennial_Messiah]

What percent do you think is acceptable?

Zero.

I believe in a reverse China policy to make up the labor shortage, not importing un-American foreigners.

China had the one-child policy. To promote and enforce a red-blooded American baby boom, I hereby propose the Four-Child Policy:

All US Citizen-US Citizen heterosexual married couples who are able to have children must have 4 babies in order to get the married filing jointly tax status and child tax credit. Also, gay and senior married partners, as well as marriages in which both partners are not US Citizens, must file taxes separately/single. Joint tax returns are only for US Citizens ONLY with at least 4 living offspring (Regardless of age; grown up is fine as they are grandfathered in)


I dont think anyone is against legal immigration. I also think it's reasonable to disagree with illegal immigration.

I'm against all immigration. America is full. We don't need more foreigners and more demographic shakeups especially considering the problems we already have.

[CosmicCowboy]

Apparently your "side" does too. Personally I religiously use Everify on hires.

[clambake]

Like how you're falling for immigration being an issue when your side is perfectly content to let rich people hire illegals?

Hey dickhead, this is very hard for him. He’s trying to explain his trump support.

Then you rush in with facts and gorilla dust. He ignored all of this shit, until now.

[CosmicCowboy]

Hey dickhead, this is very hard for him. He’s trying to explain his trump support.

Then you rush in with facts and gorilla dust. He ignored all of this shit, until now.

Fuck you. Both "sides" seem to agree with it.

[clambake]

Fuck you. Both "sides" seem to agree with it.

Except you were late.

[baseline bum]

I dont think anyone is against legal immigration. I also think it's reasonable to disagree with illegal immigration.

Being against illegal immigration isn't racist but the GOP's plan of trying to make their lives hell to court their white nationalist base while also being happy to let business owners exploit their labor to court their rich business owners base is.

[ChumpDumper]

According to Mayorkas, 85% stay.

Quote please.

The 85% Fox News talking point o' the day I find is the release rate after apprehension by the Border Patrol, which doesn't mean they are staying in the US permanently at all.

[clambake]

The way they treat them. Old white needs to die. I’m old white.

[Blake]

none. The "5000 illegals a day COMPROMISE" is total bullshit. That's still over 1.8 million a year.

So who are you voting for?

[Blake]

Apparently your "side" does too. Personally I religiously use Everify on hires.

Who are you voting for tho?

[Tyronn Lue]

Zero.

I believe in a reverse China policy to make up the labor shortage, not importing un-American foreigners.

China had the one-child policy. To promote and enforce a red-blooded American baby boom, I hereby propose the Four-Child Policy:

All US Citizen-US Citizen heterosexual married couples who are able to have children must have 4 babies in order to get the married filing jointly tax status and child tax credit. Also, gay and senior married partners, as well as marriages in which both partners are not US Citizens, must file taxes separately/single. Joint tax returns are only for US Citizens ONLY with at least 4 living offspring (Regardless of age; grown up is fine as they are grandfathered in)



I'm against all immigration. America is full. We don't need more foreigners and more demographic shakeups especially considering the problems we already have.
Only an ignorant white man would think immigrants bring only problems instead of solutions. I get it that you try to be edgy but you come across as a fucking idiot.

[clambake]

Only an ignorant white man would think immigrants bring only problems instead of solutions. I get it that you try to be edgy but you come across as a fucking idiot.

It’s called socially awkward white male.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Being against illegal immigration isn't racist but the GOP's plan of trying to make their lives hell to court their white nationalist base while also being happy to let business owners exploit their labor to court their rich business owners base is.

I agree.

I'm against all immigration, but I'm also against letting foreigners get raped, trafficked, sold, drugged to death, or forced into labor or being used to pick crops like what people like good ol' Nancy and Jerry Nadler still talk about to this month.

I believe we must Build The Wall and keep 100% of immigrants out, regardless of race, skin color, religion, nationality, age, gender, criminal background, education, caste, or work skillset (or lack thereof).


Only an ignorant white man would think immigrants bring only problems instead of solutions. I get it that you try to be edgy but you come across as a fucking idiot.
I'm not being edgy, I'm being realistic. Spend a week in Shanghai or Tokyo or Chennai, how much % of the population isn't ethnically geocentered to their home country? How many expats are there? Not business travelers or tourists, but people who actually live there full-time.

Homogeneous societies are the highest-functioning and most-organized societies, and that's a FACT.

[Thread]

I actually remember when politics weren't so polarized and real compromises were made.

Then some New York wise ass walked in offin' the street after casing the joint with his 2 wise ass sons and made President before they could get the gate closed.

In other words? Just like our Effy created thus..."They fucked around & found out."

tee, hee.

[Thread]

It’s called socially awkward white male.

..."In the name of the greatest people who *has ever trod this earth."

* denotes present tense.

[z0sa]

:lol talking about China, which is an extremely racist, backwards country. the USA is BETTER THAN THAT. We can DO BETTER, for ourselves and FOR EACHOTHER.

I'm just sick of all this political sides-taking. There's no pragmatic way forward. We owe eachother better than this, black or white or Asian or whatever. /rant

[Thread]

Only an ignorant white man would think immigrants bring only problems instead of solutions.

Somewhere in the neighborhood, after 90% "bring only problems"

[Thread]

:lol talking about China, which is an extremely racist, backwards country. the USA is BETTER THAN THAT. We can DO BETTER, for ourselves and FOR EACHOTHER.

I'm just sick of all this political sides-taking. There's no pragmatic way forward. We owe eachother better than this, black or white or Asian or whatever. /rant

No, there is no way forward from this. We're entrenched just like in Ukraine, only our weapons are hidden, but no longer in the basement, but brought upstairs to the living room, the bedroom, the den, the kitchen, so, when "the bell" rings were ready.

How did we come to this? Simple; Trump made President.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Being on a side unless you are part of the donor class is not in anyone's interest. Real political reform is but few candidates act on it.

[Thread]

The way they treat them. Old white needs to die. I’m old white.

You will grow old, gray, and you will die before that ever happens.

[Thread]

Being on a side unless you are part of the donor class is not in anyone's interest. Real political reform is but few candidates act on it.

...because Trump made President.

[z0sa]

No, there is no way forward from this. We're entrenched just like in Ukraine, only our weapons are hidden, but no longer in the basement, but brought upstairs to the living room, the bedroom, the den, the kitchen, so, when "the bell" rings were ready.

How did we come to this? Simple; Trump made President.

Yeah, that was the beginning -- but Trump would be IN THE EXACT SAME POSITION if he had just kept his fucking mouth shut about the obviously stupid/ignorant claims of an election steal. There's no difference besides the massive amount of divisiveness that he purposely injected because he's a sore fucking loser, friend.

I will support (in terms of the election results) whomever wins in Nov. But Trump definitely threw a stick of dynamite on our election/political process.

[Ef-man]

It’s called socially awkward white male.

Fucking idiot is a better description, tbh.

[boutons_deux]

Mr trash's fate in scotus6 hands
I
I think they will rule that Smith is using the wrong law not only to prosecute Trump but to prosecute Trump's 100s insurrectionists

That is, s6 will hide their corruption behind a trivial reading of law

Today's arguments predict that scotus will gut the administrative state, unleashing the capital stole the guard keys, unlimited pollution and destruction of the environment, leading to hundreds of thousands of people and animals dead from capitalist profit seeking

[HemisfairArena]

Only an ignorant white man would think immigrants bring only problems instead of solutions. I get it that you try to be edgy but you come across as a fucking idiot.

Yep, we know what race truly brings the problems in America,,,,,
https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/b411ffab064b627d362abcafb49d6ccf

[HemisfairArena]

Like how you're falling for immigration being an issue when your side is perfectly content to let rich people hire illegals?

Kinda like your side screaming for the right to kill babies in the womb but yet screams to abolish the death penalty,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

...so says El, thru CNN narration.

The next time NoNo has an original thought will be the first time,,,,,

[Thread]

Yeah, that was the beginning -- but Trump would be IN THE EXACT SAME POSITION if he had just kept his fucking mouth shut about the obviously stupid/ignorant claims of an election steal. There's no difference besides the massive amount of divisiveness that he purposely injected because he's a sore fucking loser, friend.

I will support (in terms of the election results) whomever wins in Nov. But Trump definitely threw a stick of dynamite on our election/political process.

(They'd) threatened to murder him multiple times. I'm confidant that is what's led the old man to not forgivin & forgettin'. You tell Bush1 he can't have a second crack at the plate, no big deal, he'll soldier on, go back to Texas with the old lady. You tell Trump you're gonna blow him, the kid and Mel upon arrival at the WH, and if that don't work, separate his head from his body you're gonna have to answer for that. He wasn't stupid enough to heel himself and those 2 boys up (like I'd a been)...no, he took up a Chinese water torture technique campaign & brought to America, and is still practicing it on a 24/7 reshuffle.

It's wonderful.

[Thread]

Mr trash's fate in scotus6 hands
I
I think they will rule that Smith is using the wrong law not only to prosecute Trump but to prosecute Trump's 100s insurrectionists

That is, s6 will hide their corruption behind a trivial reading of law

Today's arguments predict that scotus will gut the administrative state, unleashing the capital stole the guard keys, unlimited pollution and destruction of the environment, leading to hundreds of thousands of people and animals dead from capitalist profit seeking

And you're stomping around the front yard ranting this, driving yourself to a coronary not because your think it will happen this way, but afraid it will and you can't face it.

Now, act like somebody, GD it!!!

[clambake]

The next time NoNo has an original thought will be the first time,,,,,

Why did you abandon your stock market thread, goober?

lol

[daboom1]

(They'd) threatened to murder him multiple times. I'm confidant that is what's led the old man to not forgivin & forgettin'. You tell Bush1 he can't have a second crack at the plate, no big deal, he'll soldier on, go back to Texas with the old lady. You tell Trump you're gonna blow him, the kid and Mel upon arrival at the WH, and if that don't work, separate his head from his body you're gonna have to answer for that. He wasn't stupid enough to heel himself and those 2 boys up (like I'd a been)...no, he took up a Chinese water torture technique campaign & brought to America, and is still practicing it on a 24/7 reshuffle.

It's wonderful.

Tell it Cubby!

Testify!

[z0sa]

(They'd) threatened to murder him multiple times. I'm confidant that is what's led the old man to not forgivin & forgettin'. You tell Bush1 he can't have a second crack at the plate, no big deal, he'll soldier on, go back to Texas with the old lady. You tell Trump you're gonna blow him, the kid and Mel upon arrival at the WH, and if that don't work, separate his head from his body you're gonna have to answer for that. He wasn't stupid enough to heel himself and those 2 boys up (like I'd a been)...no, he took up a Chinese water torture technique campaign & brought to America, and is still practicing it on a 24/7 reshuffle.

It's wonderful.

You think he's the first president given death threats? Nope and nope.

Trump could easily be winning this election in a landslide if it wasn't for his bucket mouth.

Come to your daddy.

[z0sa]

:cry they threatened to cut his head off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zwG3QdPLfw

[HemisfairArena]

You think he's the first president given death threats? Nope and nope.

Trump could easily be winning this election in a landslide if it wasn't for his bucket mouth.

Come to your daddy.

False,,,,Trump won because of his mouth. He won in 2016 and has a great chance to win in 2024,,,,the republican party was dead in the water wheeling out guys like McCain and Romney and if they stayed the status quo,,,,,republicans wouldnt win another presidential election in our lifetimes. The party needed a wake call and it came in the form of Trump.

[Thread]

You think he's the first president given death threats? Nope and nope.

Trump could easily be winning this election in a landslide if it wasn't for his bucket mouth.

Come to your daddy.

He already made President. It's all a revenge tour to the grave...for him. After that it'll be a continuation of the ongoing revenge tour for those who couldn't take him making President like that...all the way to each of their graves. There is their peace, and only there, 0. (That) is his salvation, his deliverance.

[z0sa]

He already made President. It's all a revenge tour to the grave...for him. After that it'll be a continuation of the ongoing revenge tour for those who couldn't take him making President like that...all the way to each of their graves. There is their peace, and only there, 0. (That) is his salvation, his deliverance.

But, you don't deny that he'd be whooping Biden's geriatric, aviator-wearin' ass if he had just kept his trap shut.

[z0sa]

False,,,,Trump won because of his mouth. He won in 2016 and has a great chance to win in 2024,,,,the republican party was dead in the water wheeling out guys like McCain and Romney and if they stayed the status quo,,,,,republicans wouldnt win another presidential election in our lifetimes. The party needed a wake call and it came in the form of Trump.

2016 called, they want their president back.

[z0sa]

BTW, I voted Trump in 16. So let's not get caught up in us vs them. Trump was an outsider and an asshole, someone who could shake things up as a populist would. Think Caesar, without the military acumen.

2020, he lost. The end, or should have been, pull a Teddy and try again. No, no, "i couldn't have lost, I'm Donald Trump :cry"

[Thread]

But, you don't deny that he'd be whooping Biden's geriatric, aviator-wearin' ass if he had just kept his trap shut.

No, not true, and as I've said here multiple times, all they have to do is keep Biden breathing to election day. He will win vs. Trump. After he's sworn and a fortnight later he'll retire from the Presidency move Harris in there and make Rodham her replacement. Harris will finish Biden 2nd term, finish half her first term if those polls are within the victory margin, then resign somewhere along that first term, then hand off to Rodham who will have accomplished what she'd wanted for the last 20 years. I'll blow my brains out, yes, Effy, with a pea shooter, the wife will go to the Well's Fargo, the 3 boys will follow, then back to the house, jam me down into the underground galvanized garbage can. "Harder boy's, harder, everyone jump at once then it's on to Olive Garden! Mush!"

[HemisfairArena]

2016 called, they want their president back.

They got their president back,,,thats why he's a 2-1 favorite in Vegas. You think Vegas makes odds to lose money?,,,,you should go bet your life savings on Biden and see how that works out for ya,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

No, not true, and as I've said here multiple times, all they have to do is keep Biden breathing to election day. He will win vs. Trump. After he's sworn and a fortnight later he'll retire from the Presidency move Harris in there and make Rodham her replacement. Harris will finish Biden 2nd term, finish half her first term if those polls are within the victory margin, then resign somewhere along that first term, then hand off to Rodham who will have accomplished what she'd wanted for the last 20 years. I'll blow my brains out, yes, Effy, with a pea shooter, the wife will go to the Well's Fargo, the 3 boys will follow, then back to the house, jam me down into the underground galvanized garbage can. "Harder boy's, harder, everyone jump at once then it's on to Olive Garden! Mush!"

[HemisfairArena]

Thread,,,,no chance that Biden beats Trump.

[z0sa]

They got their president back,,,thats why he's a 2-1 favorite in Vegas. You think Vegas makes odds to lose money?,,,,you should go bet your life savings on Biden and see how that works out for ya,,,,

The House always wins in Vegas, buddy.

[Thread]

BTW, I voted Trump in 16. So let's not get caught up in us vs them. Trump was an outsider and an asshole, someone who could shake things up as a populist would. Think Caesar, without the military acumen.

2020, he lost. The end, or should have been, pull a Teddy and try again. No, no, "i couldn't have lost, I'm Donald Trump :cry"

It's not that, 0. Sure, he'd like to win, absolutely, but at loss he'll still pull the strings, "Pull the strings!" like Landau in -Ed Wood- Trump wants to remind (them) that he did make President, never let 'em forget it, or, get any further than the "newspapers" from it. And they won't, ever. They'll take that old man into their grave with 'em. And he knows it, and the best, 0? He knows that they know that he knows they know it. He got 'em!

[HemisfairArena]

The House always wins in Vegas, buddy.


Again, Trump is the 2 to 1 favorite, dumb ass,,,,

[z0sa]

No, not true, and as I've said here multiple times, all they have to do is keep Biden breathing to election day. He will win vs. Trump. After he's sworn and a fortnight later he'll retire from the Presidency move Harris in there and make Rodham her replacement. Harris will finish Biden 2nd term, finish half her first term if those polls are within the victory margin, then resign somewhere along that first term, then hand off to Rodham who will have accomplished what she'd wanted for the last 20 years. I'll blow my brains out, yes, Effy, with a pea shooter, the wife will go to the Well's Fargo, the 3 boys will follow, then back to the house, jam me down into the underground galvanized garbage can. "Harder boy's, harder, everyone jump at once then it's on to Olive Garden! Mush!"

He'll win because he's pissed everyone and their mother off. Not because Biden is good at all. It's the same case as the 2022 midterms. Repubs should have swept the floor and instead can barely hold their slim majority in the House. It's sad, honestly -- and Trump did that.

Trump had high roads to take, and didn't take em. The congress, the presidency, was yours based off actions instead of words. But you gave up and called it. That's on you, and Trump, as much as it's on the people who will be voting for anyone but Trump.

[z0sa]

Again, Trump is the 2 to 1 favorite, dumb ass,,,,

says the foreigner who can't discern the difference between commas and periods.

Change your name, joker -- before Trump deports your ass after he wins :lol :lol

[HemisfairArena]

He'll win because he's pissed everyone and their mother off. Not because Biden is good at all. It's the same case as the 2022 midterms. Repubs should have swept the floor and instead can barely hold their slim majority in the House. It's sad, honestly -- and Trump did that.

Trump had high roads to take, and didn't take em. The congress, the presidency, was yours based off actions instead of words. But you gave up and called it. That's on you, and Trump, as much as it's on the people who will be voting for anyone but Trump.

Again, go bet all your money on Biden and lets see how that works out for ya,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

says the foreigner who can't discern the difference between commas and periods.

Change your name, joker -- before Trump deports your ass after he wins :lol :lol

Trump 2 to 1 favorite, dumb ass,,,,

[z0sa]

Trump 2 to 1 favorite, dumb ass,,,,

commas /=/ periods

how cold/warm was the rio grande when you swam over?

[HemisfairArena]

commas /=/ periods

how cold/warm was the rio grande when you swam over?

2 to 1

[Thread]

Thread,,,,no chance that Biden beats Trump.

I'll take that as an apology because that as close as you can get to one, Hemi. You're forgiven, old horse.

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I think you're wrong. They ain't gonna just run the clock down to Election Day. They're gonna throw everything at him to get him to stop, be taken to jail, or, to a morgue. They're as mad and enraged at him as Trump is with them. It was personal from Day 1 and will stay that way thru the ages.

[HemisfairArena]

I'll take that as an apology because that as close as you can get to one, Hemi. You're forgiven, old horse.

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I think you're wrong. They ain't gonna just run the clock down to Election Day. They're gonna throw everything at him to get him to stop, be taken to jail, or, to a morgue. They're as mad and enraged at him as Trump is with them. It was personal from Day 1 and will stay that way thru the ages.

Im not a Trump guy, pal,,,,im just a realist and I dont do apologies,,,,its against my religion,,,,

[Thread]

Im not a Trump guy, pal,,,,im just a realist and I dont do apologies,,,,its against my religion,,,,

...I figured that, hence the olive branch I extended nonetheless. But, I believe you've offered that unsaid apology a half-dozen times in the last couple weeks thru engagements here and there. I want to put it behind us, Hemi, and be like we used to be. I've missed that greatly.

[HemisfairArena]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1747680858209673428

Dont care who is right or wrong,,,,i just know this woman is the hottest ever in politics,,,,

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/i/status/1747680858209673428

Dont care who is right or wrong,,,,i just know this woman is the hottest ever in politics,,,,

My browser it too old and isn't supported, so, I can't see her. What's her name, Hemi?

[HemisfairArena]

My browser it too old and isn't supported, so, I can't see her. What's her name, Hemi?

Anna Paulina Luna,,,not a white girl like the dems on here say only white nationalists hate illegals,,,,the dems are to stupid to realize hispanics are hating illegals entering this country but dems have to make it that whites are the kkk racists that dont want them here,,,,,but good luck to them on that,,,,hispanics are turning republican in record numbers because of the border. Just check out her twitter(X) account and see the video there,,,,,

[ElNono]

You do realize the CA/Mexico border is roughly 1/10 the size of the TX/Mexico border, right?

It's not practical for most of them to cross through thousands of miles of desert just to cross into CA instead of TX.

There's way more Mexicans in California than Texas. You tell me.

[clambake]

Goober thinks he knows women

That’s delicious

[ElNono]

Being against illegal immigration isn't racist but the GOP's plan of trying to make their lives hell to court their white nationalist base while also being happy to let business owners exploit their labor to court their rich business owners base is.

That's the whole point. Has nothing to do with illegal immigration. Wait until legal immigration also becomes a narrative for "the great replacement" conspiracy, and they'll be against that too.

[ElNono]

I'm against all immigration

Case in point

[ElNono]

Yeah, that was the beginning -- but Trump would be IN THE EXACT SAME POSITION if he had just kept his fucking mouth shut about the obviously stupid/ignorant claims of an election steal. There's no difference besides the massive amount of divisiveness that he purposely injected because he's a sore fucking loser, friend.

I will support (in terms of the election results) whomever wins in Nov. But Trump definitely threw a stick of dynamite on our election/political process.

oH nO, yOu dRaNk Da kOoLaId!!!11!

[ElNono]

Why did you abandon your stock market thread, goober?

lol

lmao

[ElNono]

BTW, I voted Trump in 16. So let's not get caught up in us vs them. Trump was an outsider and an asshole, someone who could shake things up as a populist would. Think Caesar, without the military acumen.

2020, he lost. The end, or should have been, pull a Teddy and try again. No, no, "i couldn't have lost, I'm Donald Trump :cry"

Exactly. He was largely an unknown running against a known career politician and terrible candidate. You can say Old Joe is the latter too, but Trump isn't an unknown quantity anymore.

He's pretty well known, and pretty terrible at it, given the whoop ass Old Joe gave him.

[Thread]

Exactly. He was largely an unknown running against a known career politician and terrible candidate. You can say Old Joe is the latter too, but Trump isn't an unknown quantity anymore.

He's pretty well known, and pretty terrible at it, given the whoop ass Old Joe gave him.

Trump made President. That's why we're here late on a Wednesday night.

[ElNono]

Anna Paulina Luna,,,not a white girl like the dems on here say only white nationalists hate illegals,,,,the dems are to stupid to realize hispanics are hating illegals entering this country but dems have to make it that whites are the kkk racists that dont want them here,,,,,but good luck to them on that,,,,hispanics are turning republican in record numbers because of the border. Just check out her twitter(X) account and see the video there,,,,,

I'm hispanic. California is the bluest state in the nation, with probably the largest hispanic population in the country.

You just need to call the nurse to get you your meds asap.

[ElNono]

It's hilarious how the Republicans get a token black or hispanic in their camp, and all of a sudden they think they dominate that crowd :lmao

Then come election night, they're all like "well, only 92% of blacks voted (D). That's better than 95% from the last election".

[Thread]

It's hilarious how the Republicans get a token black or hispanic in their camp, and all of a sudden they think they dominate that crowd :lmao

Then come election night, they're all like "well, only 92% of blacks voted (D). That's better than 95% from the last election".

...because that's the way it's been forever. Blacks are in that cast iron 95% Black block. And ya ain't gonna move 'em. Not for money, marbles, nor chalk.

[Thread]

Anna Paulina Luna,,,not a white girl like the dems on here say only white nationalists hate illegals,,,,the dems are to stupid to realize hispanics are hating illegals entering this country but dems have to make it that whites are the kkk racists that dont want them here,,,,,but good luck to them on that,,,,hispanics are turning republican in record numbers because of the border. Just check out her twitter(X) account and see the video there,,,,,

She is gorgeous.

[HemisfairArena]

It's hilarious how the Republicans get a token black or hispanic in their camp, and all of a sudden they think they dominate that crowd :lmao

Then come election night, they're all like "well, only 92% of blacks voted (D). That's better than 95% from the last election".

Its ironic,,,not hilarious, dumb ass,,,,just like Cali trying to be the state of diversity but continuing to vote in white governors like Newsum, Jerry Brown, Gray Davis and Arnold the terminator every single term,,,,,name me the last minority governor Cali has elected,,,,,,lets see it, dumb ass,,,,(and guess what, all your Cali governors were men,,,,,sexist much?),,,,Texas elected a woman governor and she was a democrat named Ann Richards,,,,so lets hear your response, NoNo,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

She is gorgeous.


yes, sir,,,,she is,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

She is gorgeous.

Just look at this woman's moxy,,,,I love it,,,,











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(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)








Anna Paulina Luna



(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)

@realannapaulina
(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)
·
Oct 13, 2023 (https://twitter.com/realannapaulina/status/1713001440502030719)

















You guys want to go 15 rounds? Fine. Let’s do it. On the floor. For the country to see. This Monday. You want to explain to your voters why you blocked Jordan? Then bring it.. because from the calls I’m getting, they are asking me what’s going on.











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(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)








Anna Paulina Luna



(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)

@realannapaulina
(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)
·
Oct 13, 2023 (https://twitter.com/realannapaulina/status/1713001440502030719)

















You guys want to go 15 rounds? Fine. Let’s do it. On the floor. For the country to see. This Monday. You want to explain to your voters why you blocked Jordan? Then bring it.. because from the calls I’m getting, they are asking me what’s going on.

[Thread]

Just look at this woman's moxy,,,,I love it,,,,











https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1514816007868583936/oe1Jbdzr_bigger.jpg





(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)








Anna Paulina Luna



(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)

@realannapaulina
(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)
·
Oct 13, 2023 (https://twitter.com/realannapaulina/status/1713001440502030719)

















You guys want to go 15 rounds? Fine. Let’s do it. On the floor. For the country to see. This Monday. You want to explain to your voters why you blocked Jordan? Then bring it.. because from the calls I’m getting, they are asking me what’s going on.











https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1514816007868583936/oe1Jbdzr_bigger.jpg





(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)








Anna Paulina Luna



(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)

@realannapaulina
(https://twitter.com/realannapaulina)
·
Oct 13, 2023 (https://twitter.com/realannapaulina/status/1713001440502030719)

















You guys want to go 15 rounds? Fine. Let’s do it. On the floor. For the country to see. This Monday. You want to explain to your voters why you blocked Jordan? Then bring it.. because from the calls I’m getting, they are asking me what’s going on.



They/The Democrat "Death" Squad ain't put her on-the-spot, as of yet, but once she's fingered it'll be damn near impossible to survive, if not get turned.

As "John Coffey" advises in -The Green Mile- "Careful."

[Millennial_Messiah]

I'm hispanic. California is the bluest state in the nation, with probably the largest hispanic population in the country.

You just need to call the nurse to get you your meds asap.

Not even top five.

Vermont, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Connecticut/Rhode Island say hi.

[ChumpDumper]

Im not a Trump guy, pal,,,,im just a realist and I dont do apologies,,,,its against my religion,,,,

Who are you going to vote for president?

[FrostKing]

:wakeup

[monosylab1k]

So who are you voting for?

“I will hold my nose and vote for Trump”

[Thread]

“I will hold my nose and vote for Trump”

& then apologize to the entire Board for posting that information on here, ya shit, you.

[monosylab1k]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

:lmao

[Thread]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

:lmao


& then apologize to the entire Board for posting that information on here, ya shit, you.

[monosylab1k]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

:lmao

[Thread]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

:lmao


& then apologize to the entire Board for posting that information on here, ya shit, you.

[monosylab1k]

This message is hidden because Thread is on your ignore list.

:lmao

[Tyronn Lue]

Yep, we know what race truly brings the problems in America,,,,,
https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/b411ffab064b627d362abcafb49d6ccf
Posting this on a NBA forum :lol

[Tyronn Lue]

I agree.

I'm against all immigration, but I'm also against letting foreigners get raped, trafficked, sold, drugged to death, or forced into labor or being used to pick crops like what people like good ol' Nancy and Jerry Nadler still talk about to this month.

I believe we must Build The Wall and keep 100% of immigrants out, regardless of race, skin color, religion, nationality, age, gender, criminal background, education, caste, or work skillset (or lack thereof).


I'm not being edgy, I'm being realistic. Spend a week in Shanghai or Tokyo or Chennai, how much % of the population isn't ethnically geocentered to their home country? How many expats are there? Not business travelers or tourists, but people who actually live there full-time.

Homogeneous societies are the highest-functioning and most-organized societies, and that's a FACT.
In that case this country should be all Native Americans.

[Tyronn Lue]

Somewhere in the neighborhood, after 90% "bring only problems"
Our ancestors were immigrants. You could have a point.

[Millennial_Messiah]

In that case this country should be all Native Americans.

That's the typical lib argument, but it fails because there was no USA, no country, no constitution, no organized unitary society before the Europeans showed up and before 1776 but really more like 1789 in practical terms.

We should have been nicer to the American Indians in the 1800s but, it is what it is.

[clambake]

Our ancestors were immigrants. You could have a point.

Lol

[Tyronn Lue]

That's the typical lib argument, but it fails because there was no USA, no country, no constitution, no organized unitary society before the Europeans showed up and before 1776 but really more like 1789 in practical terms.

We should have been nicer to the American Indians in the 1800s but, it is what it is.
but muh homogeneous society :cry

:nope there's no USA in Tokyo either.