Game thread - Spurs vs. Cavs Feb 3 7:30 PM CST, 3:30 AM Riga.

[exstatic]

GSG!

[John B]

Spurs Injuries: Charles Bassey — out (knee); Keldon Johnson — questionable (elbow); Dominick Barlow — questionable (G-League); Sidy Cissoko — out (G-League); David Duke Jr. — out (G League); Mamadi Diakite — questionable (G League)

Note: Spurs injury report is as of Friday; today’s is not due until 1 P.M. due to back-to-back.

Cavs Injuries: Jarrett Allen — questionable (ankle); Ty Jerome — out (ankle); Tristan Thompson — out (suspended)


Go Spurs Go!

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GFbzYY4XQAEN4iv?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Ocotillo]

Anyone here?

[baseline bum]

Keldon's playing. Didn't hear if Dom is suited up or not.

[spursparker9]

Champaigne's height is 6'9? Why i always heard the announcer introducing him that during starting lineup intro...

[TekXX]

Let me guess, a competitive game and a slow collapse in the second half?

[hoopdreams11]

Julian’s playin hard tonight cleveland is playing inspired defense

[poopbox]

Cavs are mostly healthy so I expect the spurs to get they cheeks split in this one

[AusSpur]

Free Dom Barlow - I can't take Collins' hopeless rebounding.

[r0drig0lac]

facing the hottest team at the moment is always a good test

[NASpurs]

Wemby is only good at five minute spurts.

[Kurgan]

Keldon's defense is terrible like always. Leaves his man wide open for the easy three.

[poopbox]

Branhim has a lot of shots that somehow hit the other side of the rim

[NASpurs]

This is tragic.

[lefty]

omg Collins is ass

[Spursfanfromafar]

Malaki Branham should be renamed Calamity Branham. Can't shoot threes, can't pass, can't defend.. a liability. No wonder he is the worst player in the NBA in terms of advanced plus minus and efficiency.

[lefty]

Branham
:lmao

[Kurgan]

Malaki Branham should be renamed Calamity Branham. Can't shoot threes, can't pass, can't defend.. a liability. No wonder he is the worst player in the NBA in terms of advanced plus minus and efficiency.

He just hovers around the court looking lost on offense and defense. Cut the bum or stick him in GLeague. He doesn't belong in a NBA lineup.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Collins and Branam are soooo bad... Horrible IQ and shit defense

[Rubberducky]

Wemby's 3 over Allen: https://streamable.com/syoylp

[poopbox]

Victor out here playing like ass

[NASpurs]

:lol that was sick

[BackHome]

Wemby is definitely hitting the rookie wall I think they will definitely dial his minutes back by end of this month

[r0drig0lac]

Mobley killing the Spurs

[poopbox]

Spurs had a 3 on 1 and Devin got stuffed at the rim :lol

[Pauleta14]

Vassell sees the wall but still decides to try a dunk on Mobley... :lol

[MultiTroll]

Since when does Wama play B2Bs?

[Dverde]

Horrible play by both Tre and Devin.

[r0drig0lac]

holy shit, Collins is fucking useless

[mystargtr34]

Can Pop grab the mic again and walk out to half court and cut half the team on the spot.

[MultiTroll]

McForbesbot starts the fast break for the Cavs. :lol

[CGD]

These non-Wemby minutes are painful, especially when Dev does disappearing act

[Frenchfred]

One of those games when nobody can get a basket.

[hoopdreams11]

Free Dom Barlow - I can't take Collins' hopeless rebounding.

Doesn’t look like he is active i don’t know why we keep mamu active if he never plays

[Spurs Brazil]

Collins: 9 minutes -18

[MultiTroll]

Davante Graham is in the doghouse because?

[CorrectCrusader]

These non-Wemby minutes are painful, especially when Dev does disappearing act

Buddy demands the ball when Wemby is on the floor, but loses all interest in scoring when Wemby is on the bench.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Collins...make a frigging jump shot already.

[sananspursfan21]

If Devin is going to be Wemby’s sidekick, he better piss or get off the pot. This back and forth stuff is getting old.

[hoopdreams11]

Cleveland is going to be a problem for some people in the playoffs

[Dverde]

I’m fine with Vassell and their DJM picks back for Trae Young after watching this game.

[sananspursfan21]

Also, what is with these no calls for our guys but everything getting called for the Cavs

[poopbox]

Between Collins, Julian, and Branhim...the spurs have the flat out worst player on the floor in every single game they play. You can't win when you always have the worst players

[lefty]

Cleveland is going to be a problem for some people in the playoffs

they said that last years

[Dverde]

Cleveland is going to be a problem for some people in the playoffs

No they just look great against this terrible team.

[Kawhi Duncan]

Wemby is definitely hitting the rookie wall I think they will definitely dial his minutes back by end of this month

They need to build an actual offensive system around him... Right now he can never build a rhythm because he gets the ball at random places at random intervals... If Duncan was treated like Wemby, he wouldn't have been 1st team all NBA as a rookie... Pop built the entire offense around Duncan... Granted it was simply 4 down... But he wasn't trying to spread the ball around evenly

[lefty]

omg fuck Lollins

[toki9]

Davante Graham is in the doghouse because?

That’s been one of the more bizarre developments this season. He had that DWI incident, but nothing else. Seems like it’s just a developmental/coaching decision. He seems to have a good attitude about the situation, still. But it can’t be easy on the guy.

[CorrectCrusader]

Can we just call this game off early? Boring as hell.

[lefty]

Refs feeling vad for us so they’re helping us

[CorrectCrusader]

lmao these refs. burn in hell

[thiste]

Keldon seriously...

[r0drig0lac]

honestly hilarious, these motherfuckers can't make a simple layup

[SPURt]

How many fucking bunnies have to die in the making of this loss?!

[AusSpur]

Jones 0-5 FG

Vassell 0-5 FG

Sochan 1-7 FG

[Dverde]

I feel like Wemby got married into a family of asshats. I feel bad for him. Tre Jones and Cedi are the only decent in-laws.

[Shaolinstyle]

Cavs to Sochan: Go ahead take the shot :lol

[sananspursfan21]

Refs don’t have to be bad, our guys are terrible enough without their help. Yet, here they are giving everything to the Cavs and letting them drape themselves all over the Spurs

[Pauleta14]

Refs also gave us bs calls like the reversed one thx to Collins acting skills

[FkLA]

I know they look at him as some sort of pillar and leader on the team but they really need to look into trading KJ. Pair him with some pick(s) to upgrade at a position of need. He has value but clearly not a good fit on this team going forward.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I watch the game on a delay so am finishing up the first but I don't see how people can blame the refs.

Spurs look tired and are building a two-story with all the bricks.

[GAustex]

Court is ugly
Spurs are uglier

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Branham Wesley backcourt is complete shit defensively between all of Wesley's mistakes and Branham doing what he does.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Zollin's confidence is shot making him tenative and suck even more.

[Kawhi Duncan]

We need to get these g leaguers out of the starting lineup

[sananspursfan21]

Ooooooh got em scared now

[Kurgan]

That Zollins extension is looking comical at this point.

[Kawhi Duncan]

The Branham Wesley backcourt is complete shit defensively between all of Wesley's mistakes and Branham doing what he does.

Westley issue is that he isn't a threat offensively... He doesn't drive well enough to collapse the defense, and doesn't shoot well enough to space the floor

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Westley issue is that he isn't a threat offensively... He doesn't drive well enough to collapse the defense, and doesn't shoot well enough to space the floor

He has been driving and finishing better than last year. Cavs have been diligent about clogging the middle and we cannot shoot for shit thhis night.

[TekXX]

Down to 15

[NASpurs]

Collins leading the team with -23

Gotta justify that shitty contract by keep playing him. Good to see Dom sitting behind the bench though. At least he's in the building.

[CGD]

Wemby needs to cut this lazy passing shit out. It’s awful

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wemby is just off. Like a step out of rhythm.

[AusSpur]

Feels like the scrubs have retaken the alpha wheel from Wemby recently.

[kxs783kms]

Wemby needs to cut this lazy passing shit out. It’s awful

Every game he has at least 2 or 3 turnovers from the most laziest passing effort I've seen. Sometimes he just throws it like there are no defenders on the court lol

[Pauleta14]

Stupid greedy pass by Vic, he needs to eliminate those unless we're up large

[Kawhi Duncan]

Wemby needs to cut this lazy passing shit out. It’s awful

Those one handed passes should only be made when someone is absolutely wide open... He does them in traffic WAAAAY too often

[Pauleta14]

Still Spurs +5 with Victor on the floor despite his strugles

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I hate Jabbar but Wemby does stuff under the basket that reminds me of him. The outlets passes, the stretched out finishes to the rim, how he protects the ball after a rebound.

I figure he has to have watched film on Jabbar. There are only like maybe a half dozen physical comps to Wemby in NBA history and Jabbar is one of them.

[r0drig0lac]

Wemby looks frustrated (probably with this shitty roster)

[AusSpur]

Collins elects to dribble out the shot clock :lol

[CGD]

I miss Bassey

[Kawhi Duncan]

This team fucking sucks... Mass trades... No one safe but Wemby, Sohan, and Tre

[Spurs Brazil]

3 open threes to cut the lead, missed all

[Kawhi Duncan]

Pop is also at fault... He doesn't have an offensive system... It's simply giving a wing a high pick and roll and have them create... That's not a good system... Especially when none of the wings are great at creating

[Spurs Brazil]

Collins :lol

[thiste]

Collins seriously...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I am shocked to see Wemby with only two turnovers. Seems like much more.

[r0drig0lac]

wtf Devin is really retarded?

[Kawhi Duncan]

This is on Pop... Vassel has low IQ... why is he having the ball at the top of the key as a decision maker? He is a finisher...

[sananspursfan21]

These guys don’t even try on these final shots. That’s insane

[CGD]

This is on Pop... Vassel has low IQ... why is he having the ball at the top of the key as a decision maker? He is a finisher...

They screwed up whatever that silly double screen action was. Not sure it was on Dev there

[SpursFan86]

We are just laughably terrible.

[thiste]

After 3 quarters, the Spurs are collectively shooting 33.8%.

Not from three, overall...

[Kurgan]

Branham's body language is pathetic. Dude is sulking, hanging his head low, and just jogging back on defense. Cut this piece of shit. He doesn't belong on an NBA roster.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol you guys never seen a bad shooting night before?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is on Pop... Vassel has low IQ... why is he having the ball at the top of the key as a decision maker? He is a finisher...

Vassel's court vision is poor and at this point I do not see much improvement.

[BatManu20]

Cavs’ commentators roasting the Spurs for giving Vassell the largest contract in franchise history :lol

[CGD]

Vassel's court vision is poor and at this point I do not see much improvement.

Agree. He would benefit from someone setting him up. I just don’t think he has it in his game

[TekXX]

What would have been Vassell contract 20 years ago, obviously players salaries have gone up.

[sananspursfan21]

Who put the “and 1” 2k sliders on zero tonight?

[CGD]

What would have been Vassell contract 20 years ago, obviously players salaries have gone up.

Or put in other terms, Duncan would be making $55M a year today.

[toki9]

What would have been Vassell contract 20 years ago, obviously players salaries have gone up.

Cap was $43.9 million in 2004. Looks like Vassell will make about 20% of the cap next year, so about $8.5 million in 2004? Chinook would be the better person to take a stab at this, though.

[Spurs Brazil]

Ok, suspend Collins for the rest of the season

[spursparker9]

Why is it always Collins that get into altercation ? :lol:

[hoopdreams11]

zach looks like he should be playing in the Y tonight

[Kawhi Duncan]

Why is it always Collins that get into altercation ? :lol:

Racist vibes tbh

[TekXX]

Why is it always Collins that get into altercation ? :lol:

The hood comes out every know and again.

[sananspursfan21]

Has Collins hit a three this season?

[AusSpur]

Best contribution Collins made all night was getting himself ejected - should have done it in Q1 and we would be in a better position.

[Proxy]

I hate Jabbar but Wemby does stuff under the basket that reminds me of him. The outlets passes, the stretched out finishes to the rim, how he protects the ball after a rebound.

I figure he has to have watched film on Jabbar. There are only like maybe a half dozen physical comps to Wemby in NBA history and Jabbar is one of them.

you hate Jabbar? You’re old enough to have seen him play??

[tbdog]

Pop is also at fault... He doesn't have an offensive system... It's simply giving a wing a high pick and roll and have them create... That's not a good system... Especially when none of the wings are great at creating

Pop has developed a decent offensive system. That's a strange take.

[Spurs Brazil]

Final:

Wemby 27 minutes +10
Collins 20 minutes -28

[Pauleta14]

Listening to Cavs announcers, they recon their big men were ready for Wemby and probably prepared especially for him

Vic is gonna need help, it's going to get tougher

[toki9]

you hate Jabbar? You’re old enough to have seen him play??

Jabbar’s last season was ‘89. There are probably many on this board who have seen him play.

[Bender]

you hate Jabbar? You’re old enough to have seen him play??
hopefully there’s a few people here born before the 70s

As a kid I watched him on TV as Alcindor, also Cassius Clay

yeah, I know…

[toki9]

hopefully there’s a few people here born before the 70s

As a kid I watched him on TV as Alcindor, also Cassius Clay

yeah, I know…



Back when tape delay was a thing…

[rascal]

Some of us have been around since the Spurs first season.

[toki9]

Some of us have been around since the Spurs first season.

‘I’m now curious as to just how much of recent fans that some of the posters here are. This thread is starting to make me feel really old.

[baseline bum]

you hate Jabbar? You’re old enough to have seen him play??

People who are old enough to see him play know that he has become quite overrated the last 20 years. Don't get me wrong, top 10 player alltime, but nowadays people act like he's top 2 or 3 when he just wasn't that guy who was going to carry you to ~50 wins every year in his prime like Tim or Shaq, Bird or Magic, LeBron or Michael, Wilt, etc. Magic really saved his legacy. I'd have him third best center alltime behind Wilt and Shaq, and honestly Hakeem has a case too because at least Hakeem had crap supporting casts in the years he didn't hit 50 while Abdul-Jabbar never played without another HOFer next to him IIRC (Oscar Robertson, Bob Dandridge, Gail Goodrich, Adrian Dantley, and Jamaal Wilkes were his teammates before teaming up with Magic).

[TekXX]

People who are old enough to see him play know that he has become quite overrated the last 20 years. Don't get me wrong, top 10 player alltime, but nowadays people act like he's top 2 or 3 when he just wasn't that guy who was going to carry you to ~50 wins every year in his prime like Tim or Shaq, Bird or Magic, LeBron or Michael, Wilt, etc. Magic really saved his legacy. I'd have him third best center alltime behind Wilt and Shaq, and honestly Hakeem has a case too.

Really? I can't think of anyone who's pushing him as more than he was? I think being non flashy has made him somewhat forgettable over the years.

[TD 21]

I like Mobley, but he's a non shooter yet somehow not only attempts but makes all 3 of his 3's. Reminds me of when Williamson went 4 for 4 from 3 in his debut vs the Spurs.

Never fails.

[Tyronn Lue]

Is Victor on a lifetime minutes restriction?

[spurs1990]

Zach and Victor the worst twin towers of any iteration yet

[spursparker9]

Is Victor on a lifetime minutes restriction?

Commentator said he look gassed and also Spurs were playing 7 home games in 11 nights. Also, this is Wemby's first time going through a 82 games schedules. So should be Pop managing this minutes and not on restriction due to his ankle.

[spursparker9]

Zach and Victor the worst twin towers of any iteration yet

Let's try get Sarr in the draft.

[Slippy]

Sarr plays for my local team, perth wildcats. Hes real good . Can shoot the three is very mobile on both ends and a fantastic teammate. Just realize he will get pushed around easier than Wemby does if you plan on planting him at centre.. One redeeming trait compared to Wenby . He not as loose with the ball

[rascal]

Sarr plays for my local team, perth wildcats. Hes real good . Can shoot the three is very mobile on both ends and a fantastic teammate. Just realize he will get pushed around easier than Wemby does if you plan on plating him at centre.. One redeeming trait compared to Wenby . He not as loose with the ball

You don't plant him at center but sometimes he can switch there to allow Wemby more flexibility away from being planted at center.

[thiste]

https://twitter.com/DanWeissPBP/status/1753849908245811351


Commentator said he look gassed and also Spurs were playing 7 home games in 11 nights. Also, this is Wemby's first time going through a 82 games schedules. So should be Pop managing this minutes and not on restriction due to his ankle.
https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1754020788309508267

[Ice009]

Sarr plays for my local team, perth wildcats. Hes real good . Can shoot the three is very mobile on both ends and a fantastic teammate. Just realize he will get pushed around easier than Wemby does if you plan on planting him at centre.. One redeeming trait compared to Wenby . He not as loose with the ball

I should know who he is as the Wildcats were my favourite team when I was a kid, but I haven't followed the NBL for a long time.

I just found this article and Alex Sarr seems like a really good kid



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-21/alexandre-sarr-perth-wildcats-nba-draft/103359764

It was the chance to compete for a trophy which attracted Sarr to Perth.

"I wanted to be part of the NBL because of the physicality of the league and how much the game looks like the NBA game," he explained.

"You're competing for something here.

"I think you improve the most when you're actually trying to win a game, so that was huge in my decision to come to the Wildcats."

That last quote of his has been my thought for years in regard to improving and getting better (I feel being on a losing team that isn't trying to win (in most cases) doesn't make you a better player or teach you what it takes to win games), but I guess he's not Spurs material with their current philosophy and a line like that ;).

[Slippy]

Just recently after an injury that had him out for 3weeks.. He came out saying he was committed to playing out the finals when there were reports he would save himself for the draft ending his cats season. . Its a risk but he put his team first.

[BackHome]

The problem with Sarr is he is a Center and we all ready have a Center with Wemby so doesn’t make much sense taking him with our pick.

[TD 21]

Exactly. All of these "unicorn" style bigs are C's and unlike 5-10 years ago, teams have stopped with the pretense (save Mobley, because they have Allen).

Individually and team wise, offensively they're much better as the lone big and their physical/skill advantages are greater too.

[boutons_deux]

Spurs can't shoot

FG% in 30s and low 40s keeps spurs as season long basement dwellers

in first quarter Spurs were shooting under 30%, at home

[Tyronn Lue]

Commentator said he look gassed and also Spurs were playing 7 home games in 11 nights. Also, this is Wemby's first time going through a 82 games schedules. So should be Pop managing this minutes and not on restriction due to his ankle.
I get this but it is indistinguishable from a minutes restriction. If the Spurs develop an offense that focuses on Victor's strengths instead of having him run around like a wild man while scrubs call their own numbers over and over with horrible shooting results, maybe Victor gets more of a blow between transitions.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you hate Jabbar? You’re old enough to have seen him play??

Between being overrated, the stat padding, the dirty play and the cowardice after being confronted, I'd say yeah. And only the tosb version.

[baseline bum]

https://twitter.com/HectorLedesmaTV/status/1754020788309508267

That's weird, the cedar pollen hasn't been too bad since our 3 days of winter last month. Right before that though JFC it was bad.

[gilmor2002]

I feel like Wemby got married into a family of asshats. I feel bad for him. Tre Jones and Cedi are the only decent in-laws.

I actually dont like Cedi and his play-acting.. and defense.