Doug McDermott to Indiana Pacers for Morris + 2nd round pick

[Ariel]

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[rjv]

per shams, we're also getting Morris but likely buying him out

[Mr. Body]

Marcus Morris lol. Don't even return the calls. Pay him in Schrute bucks.

[Seventyniner]

Good for Doug. He can run up and down the floor, launch threes, and not worry about defense like always but now it will be the coach's gameplan.

[SpurSpike]

So i guess that means we buyout Morris and bring in Killian? No way Morris stays... or maybe we sign Barlow to a real deal?

[Mr. Body]

Indiana going all in Halliburton Siakam no defense team

[Cry Havoc]

Any chance we're keeping Morris just to give us a big body to throw against other teams and reduce wear and tear on Wemby?

[Mr. Body]

So i guess that means we buyout Morris and bring in Killian? No way Morris stays...

Barlow to main roster.

[Robz4000]

Any chance we're keeping Morris just to give us a big body to throw against other teams and reduce wear and tear on Wemby?

Zero

[Ariel]

Indiana going all in Halliburton Siakam no defense team

Good for Doug. He can run up and down the floor, launch threes, and not worry about defense like always but now it will be the coach's gameplan.
They flipped Buddy Hield for 3 second round picks and used on of them on Doug. Seems reasonable for them, Doug, and the Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

Any chance we're keeping Morris just to give us a big body to throw against other teams and reduce wear and tear on Wemby?

I don't think the team wants that evil fuck around

[Mugen]

NGL, the troll in me appreciates the humor or getting Morris back in this trade :lol

[slick'81]

More seconds baaby

[Cry Havoc]

I don't think the team wants that evil fuck around

Yeah. Shocked me that they would even allow him to be a Spur for a minute.

[DPG21920]

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NGL, the troll in me appreciates the humor or getting Morris back in this trade :lol

If only there was a way to embarrass him or add insult to injury here. Make him fly in, pass his physical, stay in a hotel for a night or two in Sam Antonio while we're on the RRT, then ask him to fly to Toronto to meet the team, then waive him upon landing??

[Robz4000]

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Should be a high-end second tbh.

[Seventyniner]

Maybe the Clips 2029 second could be in the mid to late 30s. Their whole current core will be at least 37 by then, so either retired or close to it.

[Mugen]

If only there was a way to embarrass him or add insult to injury here. Make him fly in, pass his physical, stay in a hotel for a night or two in Sam Antonio while we're on the RRT, then ask him to fly to Toronto to meet the team, then waive him upon landing??

This should be enough tbh :lol

[spurraider21]

im glad the pick is far away. we dont actually want to be using most of our second rounders. the farther out we get them, the more time we have to repackage them when need be

[jjspur]

Another 2nd? Are we cornering the market on 2nd rounders ?
At least McNuggets was a professional about the situation this year. Morris is a highly paid professional jerkwad. Why bother even sending him plane fare, he's getting waived. Spoiler alert Morris, you won't even get a uniform or a number, Jerkwad.

[Mr. Body]

Nice, a second for a player leaving this summer and the second will be at a time when we'll need it or will be valuable because the Clips will suck.

[scott]

Wish nothing but the best for Doug and hope he gets to enjoy some playoff basketball.

He took a lot of heat for securing his bag, but he was a consummate professional while a Spur. Would have been happy to have him back on a vet minimum deal next year, but he probably has a bit more value left to offer to a contender. Godspeed, McBuckets.

[poopbox]

We should legit make Morris dress out even though he would never play tbh. A buyout is to good for this fuckwad.

[LittleCriminal]

Morris getting Waived... :bobo

[Ariel]

Another 2nd? Are we cornering the market on 2nd rounders ?
At least McNuggets was a professional about the situation this year. Morris is a highly paid professional jerkwad. Why bother even sending him plane fare, he's getting waived. Spoiler alert Morris, you won't even get a uniform or a number, Jerkwad.
It's a good move, look at how many teams landed nice role players for a 2nd rounder or 2, all those picks will be handy when the Spurs are contending.

[FutureMan]

That makes 18 second round picks including our own until 2030.

[Seventyniner]

It's a good move, look at how many teams landed nice role players for a 2nd rounder or 2, all those picks will be handy when the Spurs are contending.

In addition the Spurs can just use those picks as they come up and perhaps one of them will yield a decent rotation player. Tre Jones was picked #41, for example.

[Ariel]

In addition the Spurs can just use those picks as they come up and perhaps one of them will yield a decent rotation player. Tre Jones was picked #41, for example.
Maybe a few, but likely most are used as currency, which is fine. Honestly if you do the math, it's likely the return from a 2nd rounder is much higher when traded as opposed to when used.

[td4mvp2k]

mcnuggets :toast

[sfernald]

Rumor is he is being brought on to mentor Wemby!

[Ocotillo]

Spurs are accumulating so many second rounders Silver is going to rethink having the second round have it's own day.

[Atl Spur]

That makes 18 second round picks including our own until 2030.

That’s what you call leverage.

[timtonymanu]

lol Morris. From legit contributor on Boston/Clippers to basically being trade fodder. Couldn’t have happened to a bigger POS.

[Ocotillo]

What Brian Wright could do is have the Jokic brothers come here and when Morris goes to meet the front office folks, have them cut him.

[Seventyniner]

Maybe a few, but likely most are used as currency, which is fine. Honestly if you do the math, it's likely the return from a 2nd rounder is much higher when traded as opposed to when used.

I don't doubt that you're right. But the Spurs have so many second rounders that it probably isn't possible to trade all of them for players.

Looking through the Spurs' draft history I found something surprising: the last time the Spurs had a pick in the #31-39 range and actually kept it was #37 DeJuan Blair in 2009. They traded the #33 pick last year and the #38 pick in 2022.

Their picks in the #55-60 range never really panned out, unsurprisingly. The ones in the 40s were:


#44 Cissoko in 2023; jury is still out
#41 Wieskamp in 2021, a bust
#41 Tre Jones in 2020, great value
#49 Weatherspoon in 2019, basically a bust
#49 Metu in 2018, didn't play well for the Spurs but is a rotation player for a playoff team now


Not a bad track record for picks in that range. The Spurs also historically draft really well at the end of the first round so it would stand to reason they would have a good chance of getting a rotation player in the early 30s, but the last two times the Spurs got to pick in the 30s they traded the picks for future 2nds.

[Knoxxx]

So Morris is a bad contract, washed, and or zero use to us as a SF?

[The Truth #6]

If the team gets good again in a few years, those second round picks could be super helpful in trading for positive role players.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

^^Good post SeventyNiner. I do think Cissoko will work out which translates to 60% of those picks being longer-term NBA players, which is pretty great at that part of the draft.

[Knoxxx]

I’m going to add Doug seems like a great guy but I winced almost constantly watching him clank 3s lately. Next on the chopping block: Collins, but stuck with until at least April.

[TD 21]

Figured he'd be the only one of the three expiring (virtual, in one case) veterans moved.

Good work to at least get something given that similar types around the league either weren't traded or are headed to the buyout market.

As bad as he's been, it also makes sense to clear the path for Branham and audition him for the rest of the off season before potentially burying him for good.

[td4mvp2k]

If the team gets good again in a few years, those second round picks could be super helpful in trading for positive role players.
yeah especially throughout wembys time here i'd be collecting as many as possible.

[Mr. Body]

I don't doubt that you're right. But the Spurs have so many second rounders that it probably isn't possible to trade all of them for players.

Looking through the Spurs' draft history I found something surprising: the last time the Spurs had a pick in the #31-39 range and actually kept it was #37 DeJuan Blair in 2009. They traded the #33 pick last year and the #38 pick in 2022.

Their picks in the #55-60 range never really panned out, unsurprisingly. The ones in the 40s were:


#44 Cissoko in 2023; jury is still out
#41 Wieskamp in 2021, a bust
#41 Tre Jones in 2020, great value
#49 Weatherspoon in 2019, basically a bust
#49 Metu in 2018, didn't play well for the Spurs but is a rotation player for a playoff team now


Not a bad track record for picks in that range. The Spurs also historically draft really well at the end of the first round so it would stand to reason they would have a good chance of getting a rotation player in the early 30s, but the last two times the Spurs got to pick in the 30s they traded the picks for future 2nds.

I'm still completely puzzled about what happened last year. They traded a nicer 2RP only to use the lesser 2RP. Did they expect a few players to be there and picked the best one (Sidy)? Did they miss on players they had ranked higher? Just really strange and we'll never know given how tight-lipped they are.

Having so many SRPs is better than having fewer, obviously. We can see how just two or three SRPs can get you an extra piece, although the trade market should change dramatically as the wad of contenders who have traded away their draft futures are replaced by new challengers and the pick landscape evens out generally.

I expect the Spurs can keep flipping SRPs for future SRPs as they don't use them, which can be really, really handy.

[The Truth #6]

^^Good post SeventyNiner. I do think Cissoko will work out which translates to 60% of those picks being longer-term NBA players, which is pretty great at that part of the draft.

I hope he does well for us, Cissokoo that is, but I just checked his shooting stats and he's shooting 13% from three. Oy vey.

Having said that, I'd like to see him get minutes once the tanking season kicks in.

[ismael-robert]

Weatherspoon and weiskamp both had teams after spurs though lil to no impact. Both in gleague

[CGD]

I'm still completely puzzled about what happened last year. They traded a nicer 2RP only to use the lesser 2RP. Did they expect a few players to be there and picked the best one (Sidy)? Did they miss on players they had ranked higher? Just really strange and we'll never know given how tight-lipped they are.

Having so many SRPs is better than having fewer, obviously. We can see how just two or three SRPs can get you an extra piece, although the trade market should change dramatically as the wad of contenders who have traded away their draft futures are replaced by new challengers and the pick landscape evens out generally.

I expect the Spurs can keep flipping SRPs for future SRPs as they don't use them, which can be really, really handy.

I think there is all sorts of chicanery in the second round with guaranteed promises, buy outs, and other tools for players to try to choose where they go. The Rupert guy that folks here had a rager for, for example, had some arrangement with Portland. I believe Sidy forced his way here too leveraging his buyout. It will be interesting to unpack all that stuff now that they have a SECOND draft night.

[Russ]

This may have been a favor to McDermott. Otherwise, it makes little sense.

[Mugen]

This may have been a favor to McDermott. Otherwise, it makes little sense.

What doesn't make sense about it? They got a perhaps high 2nd round pick for an expiring contract that they had little use for for the rest of the season.

[CGD]

Basically these are greasers to get off bad deals, right? For every Tre there are 7 Withersoons.

So if Collins busts next year, Spurs can now send 8 SRPs to get off his money!

[CGD]

This may have been a favor to McDermott. Otherwise, it makes little sense.

Unless they want to finally sign Dom to a regular deal (which they should!)

[Raven]

glad doug is finally gone. he did well enough, but he's a waste of time.

[Dejounte]

Barlow will be signed to a contract next.

[Chomag]

Wait...wasn't this the guy that hosed the spurs? This is gonna be fun lol
Can see Pop sending his as to Austin lmao

[Mr. Body]

The only just thing to do is to waive him only after the deadline has passed for waived players to join playoff teams.

[Russ]

What doesn't make sense about it? They got a perhaps high 2nd round pick for an expiring contract that they had little use for for the rest of the season.

The Spurs had a high 2d round pick last year (the third highest possible, #33) and didn't even bother to use it.

Nothing wrong with this but I don't think they do it unless they wanted to do a loyal vet a favor.

[spurraider21]

cia pop overpaying doug on a 3/45 deal because he knew 2.5 years later he'd be able to squeeze out a 2029 second round pick

[Mugen]

The Spurs had a high 2d round pick last year (the third highest possible, #33) and didn't even bother to use it.

Nothing wrong with this but I don't think they do it unless they wanted to do a loyal vet a favor.

I wanted them to actually draft somebody at that spot last year but they traded it for future 2nds. They didn't just not use it.

[Mugen]

cia pop overpaying doug on a 3/45 deal because he knew 2.5 years later he'd be able to squeeze out a 2029 second round pick

Doug was brought in because the old man needed to share his white guilt with somebody else tbh. Collins identifies as black so that wasn't gonna cut it.

Kevin Huerter better start learning Spanish because that ginger is gonna be a Spur soon tbh.

[Ocotillo]

After they waive Morris, the youngest team in the league will be even younger.

[spurraider21]

I don't doubt that you're right. But the Spurs have so many second rounders that it probably isn't possible to trade all of them for players.

Looking through the Spurs' draft history I found something surprising: the last time the Spurs had a pick in the #31-39 range and actually kept it was #37 DeJuan Blair in 2009. They traded the #33 pick last year and the #38 pick in 2022.

Their picks in the #55-60 range never really panned out, unsurprisingly. The ones in the 40s were:


#44 Cissoko in 2023; jury is still out
#41 Wieskamp in 2021, a bust
#41 Tre Jones in 2020, great value
#49 Weatherspoon in 2019, basically a bust
#49 Metu in 2018, didn't play well for the Spurs but is a rotation player for a playoff team now


Not a bad track record for picks in that range. The Spurs also historically draft really well at the end of the first round so it would stand to reason they would have a good chance of getting a rotation player in the early 30s, but the last two times the Spurs got to pick in the 30s they traded the picks for future 2nds.
im sure they'll trade/consolidate most of these, but they'll still end up making quite a few selections. for the most part, imo they gotta use the 2nd rounders to keep churning 2-way players. no more cissokos. take 3 guys in the second round, sign each to 2-ways and have them audition for a year. if one looks really solid, sign him to a cheap, non guaranteed deal a la bassey, champagnie. if not, he gets the axe and you draft more 2-way players in the second round of the following draft, etc

there will be guys we give up on early that become decent nba players. but its hard to be patient when you're going to be drafting so many guys.

[spurs10]

The only just thing to do is to waive him only after the deadline has passed for waived players to join playoff teams. This.

[Russ]

I wanted them to actually draft somebody at that spot last year but they traded it for future 2nds. They didn't just not use it.

Trading the 33rd pick in the draft for a future 2d (which on average would be #45 and could be as low as #60) is tantamount to just not using it -- some might argue that having the 33rd pick is more valuable than having the last 1st round pick (#30) for reasons that we all know. I was disappointed (almost shocked) that they didn't use it.

[Atl Spur]

Trading the 33rd pick in the draft for a future 2d (which on average would be #45 and could be as low as #60) is tantamount to just not using it -- some might argue that having the 33rd pick is more valuable than having the last 1st round pick (#30) for reasons that we all know. I was disappointed (almost shocked) that they didn't use it.

You have to balance picks vs roster spots; we will have to start being very creative here in the future. A lot of picks will be deferred or used in trades such as that one.

[Bruno]

It's a good but a quite meaningless trade. The pick is basically as good as a second round pick could be for Spurs: Spurs don't have that much picks in 2029 and Clippers could be quite bad at that time.

Serious business for Spurs FO will start this summer with the draft and hopefully more.

I'm curious so see what Spurs will do with the available roster spot. Giving a full-time contract to Barlow seems to be the most logical choice if they can find an agreement.

[Mr. Body]

cia pop overpaying doug on a 3/45 deal because he knew 2.5 years later he'd be able to squeeze out a 2029 second round pick

Pop isn't the GM.

The team needed to make a salary cap floor in the first place.

[spurraider21]

making the floor is not an argument. it can be used to justify literally any contract every given.

might as well say "we had to fill the required amount of roster spots"

[mystargtr34]

This should be enough tbh :lol

😂😂

[Proxy]

get morris on a plane and drop him off in russia

[Mr. Body]

making the floor is not an argument. it can be used to justify literally any contract every given.

might as well say "we had to fill the required amount of roster spots"

That's literally the case.

And giving a player a certain contract can be useful for making trades later. There's a certain salary range for vets anyway.

People on this board bitch and moan about the weirdest shit.

[jeebus]

Spurs lose their only good 3 point shooter but hopefully they convert Barlow to a full contract so we don't have to endure as much Collins shitting himself all over the court.

[Trainwreck2100]

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"back to the Spurs" :lmao

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This should be enough tbh :lol

I hold a hard grudge. I need more.

[FutureMan]

So long to our biggest free agent signing since Rudy Gay in 2017.

[scott]

Dang Marcus Morris is making $17MM this season.

Indy is also sending us cash in this deal. My guess is it's the pro-rated delta between Morris and Doug's deals that the Spurs are incrementally absorbing on the income statement in a buy-out.

[Blizzardwizard]

And there goes the only 40% 3PT shooter on the roster.

A necessary sacrifice but still pouring one out because with Brian's aptitude for signing/drafting outside scorers it may be some time before we see another.

[spurraider21]

And there goes the only 40% 3PT shooter on the roster.

A necessary sacrifice but still pouring one out because with Brian's aptitude for signing/drafting outside scorers it may be some time before we see another.
technically barlow is making 43% of his :lol

[exstatic]

It's a good but a quite meaningless trade. The pick is basically as good as a second round pick could be for Spurs: Spurs don't have that much picks in 2029 and Clippers could be quite bad at that time.

Serious business for Spurs FO will start this summer with the draft and hopefully more.

I'm curious so see what Spurs will do with the available roster spot. Giving a full-time contract to Barlow seems to be the most logical choice if they can find an agreement.

They did that last year with Bassey. He got his big club deal after the trade deadline opened up a roster spot.

[MultiTroll]

What an idiotic signing and extension of Pops Pet McForbesbot.

Weren't there tons of Sniffers 2021-2023 who were saying how valuable he was and how he would garner a 1st round pick for sure?

[Dex]

Well, we did....something, I guess.

Not sure I would have gotten rid of the only elite shooter on a team deeply struggling with shooting and spacing, but I guess we are officially back in the tank so whatever.

Now we can watch Johnson, Collins, and Champ brick more threes (Wemby deserves to be in this category too but he can do whatever he wants)

[cd98]

There is not a contender that had a number one pick to make. I think last year he could’ve got a first round pick, but this year he comes off the bench and plays sparingly.

[8FOR!3]

Hopefully this means we call up Sidy.

[exstatic]

Hopefully this means we call up Sidy.

Sidy is already on the 15 man roster, and could come up and play as many games as they need him to. Barlow has played 22 of the 45 games he’s limited to by the 2way rules. The need to buy out Morris, and convert him to an NBA deal.

[scott]

Barlow could play in the vast majority (23 of 31) of the remaining games, so there isn't an urgency to sign him a full deal, but it sure would be nice.

[8FOR!3]

Sidy is already on the 15 man roster, and could come up and play as many games as they need him to. Barlow has played 22 of the 45 games he’s limited to by the 2way rules. The need to buy out Morris, and convert him to an NBA deal.

Ahh what I should have said is hopefully it means Sidy gets minutes on the big club. I'd also take a look at Killian Hayes. 6'5, showed improvement last year or the year before when he was actually playing. Solid defender. I think he has a bit of an offensive game (probably not much different than Tre's and is just a casualty of Detroit having guys like Cade/Ivey in front of him.

[exstatic]

Ahh what I should have said is hopefully it means Sidy gets minutes on the big club. I'd also take a look at Killian Hayes. 6'5, showed improvement last year or the year before when he was actually playing. Solid defender. I think he has a bit of an offensive game (probably not much different than Tre's and is just a casualty of Detroit having guys like Cade/Ivey in front of him.

Dom Barlow has showed more as an NBA player than Hayes, and has earned a big club contract.

[JR3]

More minutes for Wesley!

[poopbox]

More minutes for Wesley!
:depressed:cry:hang

[tonight...you]

What an idiotic signing and extension of Pops Pet McForbesbot.

Weren't there tons of Sniffers 2021-2023 who were saying how valuable he was and how he would garner a 1st round pick for sure?
No.
Maybe one dude who was vocal, but that was about it.

[Bruno]

https://twitter.com/TonyREast/status/1755708685123264899

Spurs have received the max cash allowed for a NBA team this season ($6.5M). They got about $5.8M from Phoenix to buy out Payne, $400K from Cavs to buy out Lamar Stevens and $320K in this trade.

Even if they received some cash here, this trade will cost some money to Spurs. The $320K isn't enough to offset Morris higher remaining salary (about $1M). Spurs spend few $100K to get that second round pick.

AFAIK, Spurs haven't send cash in trade this season, they could still send $6.5M in cash during draft night to make a move. If they do a draft day trade where they received cash, the trade will need to be agreed in principle and then be done in July. With the new two days format for the draft, we might see a lot of trades for second round picks and cash is often a big part in these trades.

[Splits]

Great deal. The one thing we needed, more than anything else, is a 2029 2nd rounder. Props.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol Branham is going to get more minutes.

[John B]

He should get some good passes from Halliburton. Goodluck McBucket!

[rankingtear]

Wright got a positive asset from Forbes and McForbes. You should be ashamed for doubting this guy.

[KingKev]

Feel bad for the person who has to conpile the tribute video!! Welcome back Marcus Morris!

[Seventyniner]

With the new two days format for the draft, we might see a lot of trades for second round picks and cash is often a big part in these trades.

Good point regarding the new draft format. The extra day will allow for a lot more negotiating and dealmaking than the roughly hour-long scramble that the second round has been.

[MultiTroll]

There is not a contender that had a number one pick to make. I think last year he could’ve got a first round pick, but this year he comes off the bench and plays sparingly.
The reason for not trading him last year was ____?



Great deal. The one thing we needed, more than anything else, is a 2029 2nd rounder. Props.
Why would the Spurs possibly want to help that 100 douchebag Marcus Morris.
Ya, they are giving him some money and freeing him up to sign with another team. Why in the hell?
Marcus Morris to Spurs, who will buy him out | HoopsHype (https://hoopshype.com/2024/02/08/marcus-morris-to-spurs-who-will-buy-him-out/)

[superbigtime]

Stupid. Don't like.

[MultiTroll]

A breath of fresh air.

https://youtu.be/Yy8T53X_fx0
Yes i know this is dipsticksMarcus' twin Markeif.

[MannyIsGod]

Great deal. The one thing we needed, more than anything else, is a 2029 2nd rounder. Props.

Its not a huge deal that moves the needle but literally it doesn't hurt the Spurs at all to do this and they get an asset. All it does is cost them money. There's literally no downside to this trade. It doesn't seem important - and its not huge or anything - but this is the exact kind of small deal that adds up to a big difference when you do them a lot.

[MannyIsGod]

Anyone thinking McDermott was bringing in a first round pick last year is fucking delusional. I am legit surprised he even brought in a 2nd rounder this year and it took the Spurs eating some salary for that to be the case.

[Leetonidas]

So we're 100% certain Morris is getting bought out?

[objective]

That second rounder has a chance to be so good that Wright will trade it for 2 notably worse seconds like in 2023

[spurraider21]

So we're 100% certain Morris is getting bought out?
seems to be the case. but would be nice for sochan to have real competition at the PF spot.

[Robz4000]

So we're 100% certain Morris is getting bought out?

Hopefully they're waiting for the buyout deadline to pass so Morris can't join a playoff team tbh.

[MultiTroll]

Hopefully they're waiting for the buyout deadline to pass so Morris can't join a playoff team tbh.
Would sleazeball Morris be required to suit up and travel with the team until the pass?

[Russ]

Would sleazeball Morris be required to suit up and travel with the team until the pass?

Just under no circumstances allow him to practice with the team.

(What can go wrong will go wrong.)

[Dex]

Just under no circumstances allow him to practice with the team.

There has to some circumstance where we can send his bum ass to the GLeague. Call it practice, fake the papers, I don't care.

Marcus Morris is one of the reasons the LMA/DDR/Murray Spurs never had a chance, and I do NOT want to see him play a single minute.

[timtonymanu]

Morris did what he did but it was a typical Brian Wrong move to replace Morris with bum ass DeMarre Carroll.

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What Brian Wright could do is have the Jokic brothers come here and when Morris goes to meet the front office folks, have them cut him.

Nice. I always enjoy unnecessary returns in a grudge scenario.

[Gagnrath]

Both Morris brothers have become known for being douches in their time in the league at this point. Neither one has ever really been at the point of worth the amount of headache they are. It's probably worth the little bit of extra Money to fuck with him a little bit so that he files a complaint with the players union about the spurs before cutting him to show all the players and agents that the spurs 1. Will reward you and treat you great if you are a character guy and professional and will make your life miserable if you fuck with them.

You can also do fun stuff, like have the team physical guy and a videographer have a guy do wind sprints for 10 minutes then the physician assistant blood pressure cuff him and listen to his heart for a second, say he doesn't have his heart rate up must be slacking on the sprints and send him out for another 10 minutes to try and get his heart rate where you want for the physical before you let him dress for Austin.

[Bruno]

It seems that Morris still hasn't been waived.

I wonder if Spurs just don't want to waive him with his full salary and are asking him to give up a part of it if he wants to be free and plays elsewhere.

Given their past, it would be understandable that Spurs don't want to make him that gift.

[exstatic]

It seems that Morris still hasn't been waived.

I wonder if Spurs just don't want to waive him with his full salary and are asking him to give up a part of it if he wants to be free and plays elsewhere.

Given their past, it would be understandable that Spurs don't want to make him that gift.

They don’t always waive guys immediately. Didn’t offload Birch until near training camp. I’m sure they’re asking for a buyout discount, and are being met with resistance that will dissolve as the ‘cut and sign with a playoff team’ deadline approaches.

[jjspur]

Dude, agree to a buyout, get waived and then join like your six or seventh team. Want to be a jerk still, the spurs can wait until the other teams have signed the buyout candidates and Morris will be left holding a bag of nothing. Adios asshole, don't let the door hit you on the way out. This clown should be glad he is still getting a salary.

[The Truth #6]

Revenge is like a dish best served cold, to quote Ricardo Montelban.

[MultiTroll]

How much extra would Spurs have to pay Douchebag if they held him beyond the time he could join another team this season?

I know that depends on how much he would / would not agree to a buyout prior to the join deadline.

But if Spurs keep him so he cannot leech on with another team, how much $?

Might be worth it imo.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JonKrawczynski/status/1756930298816627142

[slick'81]

Winning culture :lol

[rjv]

get rid of him, sign barlow to an NBA contract, and push Zach to the bench.

[ambchang]

I’d pay money to see him mentor antman. Can help take out a future threat in the west.

[jjspur]

Even if they waive Morris, there are only so many teams below the second apron that can sign him - most of which are playoff teams. He won't get much more than the minimum if he signs somewhere else. Dude should just call it an early vacation for the year.

[Dex]

I do find it interesting that there is very little news so far about the Spurs and Morris...or their intentions.

I assume he is going to be waived and other reports seem to assume that as well...but nothing official has come out.

[exstatic]

I do find it interesting that there is very little news so far about the Spurs and Morris...or their intentions.

I assume he is going to be waived and other reports seem to assume that as well...but nothing official has come out.

When do the Spurs ever broadcast their intentions or any kind of negotiations? With extensions, it frequently came down to the last day, and when it was done, they had a presser. This will likely be the same, unless Morris’s camp absolutely caves. They’re also keeping him from playing games, so he’ll be out of shape if it goes all the way to the deadline.

[LeBowen]

Tbh, I'd tell Morris he's not getting waived unless he gives up all the money.
Fuck him.

[Ocotillo]

Well, if he is waived, doesn't his new team sign him for some low amount and the old team (the Spurs in this case) have to pay the delta between his new contract and the old one?

[LeBowen]

Well, if he is waived, doesn't his new team sign him for some low amount and the old team (the Spurs in this case) have to pay the delta between his new contract and the old one?

It's usually a buyout.
For example, Morris is on $17M. (wtf, lmao)
There's 5 months left on the contract, around $7M.

If he wants to leave with a buyout, he has to agree to leave a certain amount of money on the table, that's how it usually goes.
Let's say Spurs pay him $5M to end the contract and then he signs for veteran minimum with a contender.

Since he's a scumbag, I'd tell him he's not allowed to leave unless he leaves those $7M on the table. Why would Spurs help him?

[KingKev]

Respectfully, I really hope they fuck with this nigga on his way out. We are always the nice organization but you getting pennies on the dollar now you fassy. You went from an inflated 20/10 on a trash Knick team to absolute trash in 4 years.

[exstatic]

Morris did the Spurs so dirty, Klutch dropped him like a bad habit.

The Spurs won’t do anything overt, but look for this to go down to the last hours of the buyout deadline so he loses game shape.

[MultiTroll]

Doughie is off to an 0-5 start in two Pacer games.

Did Pop order a Doughie tribute video? Or will that be coming up when Pacers visit Spurs?

[rascal]

Doughie is off to an 0-5 start in two Pacer games.

Did Pop order a Doughie tribute video? Or will that be coming up when Pacers visit Spurs?

Indy is going to regret getting him. Very risky trading with the Spurs.

You're going to get burned trading with the Spurs. They have a team full of trash players and only part with the ones they have no use for and at a higher value cost than what they are worth.
Boston with the White trade is the only team that did well getting a valuable asset trading with the Spurs recently.

Every NBA GM should not even talk with the Spurs. They are like the fantasy team in your league you know to stay away from because you're never going to get a good offer from them.

[baseline bum]

Indy is going to regret getting him. Very risky trading with the Spurs.

You're going to get burned trading with the Spurs. They have a team full of trash players and only part with the ones they have no use for and at a higher value cost than what they are worth.
Boston with the White trade is the only team that did well getting a valuable asset trading with the Spurs recently.

Every NBA GM should not even talk with the Spurs. They are like the fantasy team in your league you know to stay away from because you're never going to get a good offer from them.

Pretty sure Toronto was happy with their return getting Leonard and Green for Poeltl, a late first, and a guy they were ready to salary dump anyways in DeRozan.

[KingKev]

Pretty sure Toronto was happy with their return getting Leonard and Green for Poeltl, a late first, and a guy they were ready to salary dump anyways in DeRozan.

Put some respekt on DDR's name! Easily a top 200 Spur of all-time.

[JPB]

Morris did the Spurs so dirty, Klutch dropped him like a bad habit.

The Spurs won’t do anything overt, but look for this to go down to the last hours of the buyout deadline so he loses game shape.

At last, some excitment this season. I hope they mess up with him, not for basic retaliation but for karma. And the respect of the franchise.

[Bruno]

Well, Morris is still here.

My guess about his situation is:
Morris has about $6M left on his contract and he would receive about $1M if he signs a min contract with another team.
Morris wants to be waived to receive $6M + $1M.
Spurs are offering him a $5M buyout and telling him he would recoup the lost money with his new contract.

In theory, Spurs have the upper hand. Morris is the one facing the deadline to be playoffs eligible at the end of the month. Spurs could play hard ball on this one and say "it's $5M or we will keep you after the deadline". The issue with doing that is that Spurs could hurt its relationship with Morris' agency. While Spurs shouldn't care and even might enjoy screwing Morris, creating a bad relationship with an agent/agency could bite them in the ass down the road.

[objective]

Spurs don't play hardball

If pressed, they'll rollover and give in because "that's who we are"

[Ariel]

Well, Morris is still here.

My guess about his situation is:
Morris has about $6M left on his contract and he would receive about $1M if he signs a min contract with another team.
Morris wants to be waived to receive $6M + $1M.
Spurs are offering him a $5M buyout and telling him he would recoup the lost money with his new contract.

In theory, Spurs have the upper hand. Morris is the one facing the deadline to be playoffs eligible at the end of the month. Spurs could play hard ball on this one and say "it's $5M or we will keep you after the deadline". The issue with doing that is that Spurs could hurt its relationship with Morris' agency. While Spurs shouldn't care and even might enjoy screwing Morris, creating a bad relationship with an agent/agency could bite them in the ass down the road.
That sounds like a reasonable scenario, one that I don't think should hurt team relationships with Morris' agency. If the Spurs are offering him a way to bolster his chances to earn a bigger paycheck by going to a playoff team, while not losing money (by covering the difference between his current salary and what he'd make) then it's on him if he passes, and the Spurs shouldn't be afraid of standing on their ground because it's a fair win-win offer. I'd even say they'd be hurting themselves in any future negotiations if they cave in, why would anyone concede anything if they have the expectation they'll eventually get away with anything they ask?

[Ariel]

Spurs don't play hardball

If pressed, they'll rollover and give in because "that's who we are"
And that''s how you end up with Zach Collins' contract.

[exstatic]

Well, Morris is still here.

My guess about his situation is:
Morris has about $6M left on his contract and he would receive about $1M if he signs a min contract with another team.
Morris wants to be waived to receive $6M + $1M.
Spurs are offering him a $5M buyout and telling him he would recoup the lost money with his new contract.

In theory, Spurs have the upper hand. Morris is the one facing the deadline to be playoffs eligible at the end of the month. Spurs could play hard ball on this one and say "it's $5M or we will keep you after the deadline". The issue with doing that is that Spurs could hurt its relationship with Morris' agency. While Spurs shouldn't care and even might enjoy screwing Morris, creating a bad relationship with an agent/agency could bite them in the ass down the road.

You can’t double dip. He would only be able to collect his contract, minus his new minimum contract.

[heyheymymy]

March 2nd looms you scumbag

[CGD]

Totally forgot about that he's still with the team. i honestly dont think he cares whether hes on a playoff team this season.

[exstatic]

Totally forgot about that he's still with the team. i honestly dont think he cares whether hes on a playoff team this season.

Fine. Wait day after the deadline, and waive him.

[John B]

I rather Spurs wait the last minute and Morris missing on playoff

[Atl Spur]

And that''s how you end up with Zach Collins' contract.

I can show you far worst contract per production than Zach’s….

[Rubberducky]

https://www.change.org/p/demand-the-san-antonio-spurs-to-buyout-nba-star-marcus-morris

Which one of yall made this? Lmao

[exstatic]

https://www.change.org/p/demand-the-san-antonio-spurs-to-buyout-nba-star-marcus-morris

Which one of yall made this? Lmao

That’s a very Pro Morris screed, and I just don’t see that on this board. He’s pretty reviled here. Markief probably set it up.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Well, Morris is still here.

My guess about his situation is:
Morris has about $6M left on his contract and he would receive about $1M if he signs a min contract with another team.
Morris wants to be waived to receive $6M + $1M.
Spurs are offering him a $5M buyout and telling him he would recoup the lost money with his new contract.

In theory, Spurs have the upper hand. Morris is the one facing the deadline to be playoffs eligible at the end of the month. Spurs could play hard ball on this one and say "it's $5M or we will keep you after the deadline". The issue with doing that is that Spurs could hurt its relationship with Morris' agency. While Spurs shouldn't care and even might enjoy screwing Morris, creating a bad relationship with an agent/agency could bite them in the ass down the road.

The Spurs have generated enough goodwill that this one player-specific situation would not do any real damage. Everyone in the league knows that Morris did the Spurs dirty. Bad enough that Klutch dropped him as a client— a very unusual step indicating just how bad his behavior was. I think ultimately the Spurs act like pussies and waive him right before the deadline, but if they nutted up and got a little well-deserved payback no one in the league would see it as anything but the unique situation it is and Morris doesn’t have the stature league wide or even within his own agency to impact that.

[CGD]

https://www.change.org/p/demand-the-san-antonio-spurs-to-buyout-nba-star-marcus-morris

Which one of yall made this? Lmao

Hilarious

[KingKev]

I repeat fuck this clown!!!

[John B]

I think the Spurs should just be the bigger person (organization) and show the league that it’s not like them to hold grudges.. let bygones be bygones… or not :lol

[Dverde]

No ticket, no laundry. He should have to give up some money in a buyout or he can stay home for the rest of the season.

[ismael-robert]

Just offer him a $1 buyout now if he wants to play he'll take it n move on

[SpurSpike]

Morris wants his money more than he wants a championship or this buyout would have already happened by now.

[exstatic]

Morris wants his money more than he wants a championship or this buyout would have already happened by now.

Nah, Spurs are pretending to play hardball, just to keep him inactive for weeks. He’ll be out of game shape by the time this is resolved.

[Mr. Body]

A Dutch auction is when you start the bidding high and then the number ticks down. The winning bidder jumps in at the price they want to pay.

I hope they're doing this with Morris. Let him tick down the buyout amount until the Spurs are ready to pay that amount. Hopefully they're close to $2 million or so.

[CGD]

this is getting interesting

[Splits]

https://www.change.org/p/demand-the-san-antonio-spurs-to-buyout-nba-star-marcus-morris

Which one of yall made this? Lmao

dripping with sarcasm, definitely could have been an STer.

:lol "(source: Basketball-Reference)" best part

[Spurs Homer]

As much as I hate this prick -

right now i would play him over zollins - i dont see why he isnt playing unless it is a money issue?

[spurraider21]

hes never gonna play a minute for the spurs tbh :lol

its kinda funny letting it drag out but burning bridges with Klutch may not be wise

[Robz4000]

hes never gonna play a minute for the spurs tbh :lol

its kinda funny letting it drag out but burning bridges with Klutch may not be wise

Klutch dropped him after the debacle with the Spurs iirc.

[spurraider21]

Klutch dropped him after the debacle with the Spurs iirc.
good call, i forgot that :tu

fuck him then :lol

[TD 21]

Per Charania, Morris buy out complete.

[Leetonidas]

Nice now we can sign Mills to towel wave

[Robz4000]

Fuck, was really hoping they'd hold him past the deadline.

[ismael-robert]

As long as it was for $1 fine

[z0sa]

Stay classy

[Das Texan]

What a great pointless trade this really was in the end

[onechance87]

What a great pointless trade this really was in the end

hoping it means bringing one of the guys from austin.Either cissoko or barlow even david duke jr.
Rather any of those guys get sum playing time over champ or branham.If not,Yea for sure it was a
pontless trade.

[Robz4000]

:lol Spurs allowed him to keep all his money in the buyout, didn't they?

[Seventyniner]

Fuck, was really hoping they'd hold him past the deadline.

Same here. But I bet the Spurs don't want to fuck with their own reputation, even though they would have been totally justified in holding on to Morris until next week.

[spurraider21]

What a great pointless trade this really was in the end
spurs got some future 2nd rounder out of it

5D chess overpaying mcdermott on a 3 year deal so that we could squeeze a SRP out of him as an expiring deal

[Mr. Body]

What a great pointless trade this really was in the end

Hunh??

Good guy trade to get McDermott to a playoff contender. Get a second round pick for a guy who wasn't going to resign here. How is that pointless?

[Mr. Body]

Let's get Dom a big boy contract.