Adrian Griffin as Spurs coach?

[MultiTroll]

:lol He's looking better every day Doc.

Doc = extremely similar to Popped imo. Timmy Dunks family allowed to ride on plane and swap the records and Championships?

Ok we can't have Philly Beaner from Maimi.

So how about the Wemby timeline with Adrian Griffin?
Did you like what you saw with the Bucks?
Not enough of a sample size?

[offset formation]

Someone said earlier on another thread to really think before you start a thread, and that's germane and applicable here.

Edit: Found the wise words of Mr. Body:

If you ever think about starting a low effort idiotic thread like this, take a moment and stop.

[MultiTroll]

Someone said earlier on another thread to really think before you start a thread, and that's germane and applicable here.

Edit: Found the wise words of Mr. Body (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=397):

If you ever think about starting a low effort idiotic thread like this, take a moment and stop.
You sure showed me.
Projection much?

Hey Griffin has shown he can win with modern 2023-4 basketball.

No need for you to be a bitch about it.
If you disagree simply disagree.

[exstatic]

Griffin is an insecure little bitch who didn’t have a system. They were absolutely not wrong to fire him.

[spurraider21]

wrong former bucks coach

[MultiTroll]

Milwaukee now 3-7 under Rivers.


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Griffin is an insecure little bitch who didn’t have a system. They were absolutely not wrong to fire him.

[exstatic]

Milwaukee now 3-7 under Rivers.




Are you not sophisticated enough to hold two thoughts in your head at the same time? Griffin is a bad coach. Doc is a bad coach. These are things that are true. Griffin was fired because everyone knew their record was fools gold, and they would eventually collapse. The fact that they have doesn’t somehow vindicate Griffin.

[MultiTroll]

Are you not sophisticated enough to hold two thoughts in your head at the same time? Griffin is a bad coach. Doc is a bad coach. These are things that are true. Griffin was fired because everyone knew their record was fools gold, and they would eventually collapse. The fact that they have doesn’t somehow vindicate Griffin.
Unfounded speculation by you.
"Everyone" :lol

[Tyronn Lue]

Hopefully the Spurs will have the record of the collapsed team one day.

[MultiTroll]

I did not see enough Bucks games this year to speculate how good or not Griffin would be long term.

30-13 is a decent sample size tho to at least consider if the guy can coach more in the NBA.

:lol Doc Rivers
:lol Pop without an MVP and at least 3 All Stars and HOF bench players.

[MultiTroll]

Hopefully the Spurs will have the record of the collapsed team one day.
Lue

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

wrong former bucks coach

Getting rid of Bud was the Bucks’ mistake for sure. Now it’s all damage control.

[CorrectCrusader]

It's hilarious how bad Doc Rivers is.

[exstatic]

I did not see enough Bucks games this year to speculate how good or not Griffin would be long term.

30-13 is a decent sample size tho to at least consider if the guy can coach more in the NBA.

:lol Doc Rivers
:lol Pop without an MVP and at least 3 All Stars and HOF bench players.

I hate Doc Rivers, and am not defending him, but the reality is that Milwaukee’s defense was 25th in the league when Griffin was fired, and that was the reason. That record was a mirage of easy opponents. They were always going to hit the rocks.

[superbigtime]

No please no

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol be careful what you wish for

[MultiTroll]

Lol 10-10


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[exstatic]

He never had the respect of his players. Giannis would just check himself in and out of games when he felt like it. He’s a paper tiger who can’t handle players. Waaaay too inexperienced, and now,he’ll likely never get another job after that shit show.

[MultiTroll]

He never had the respect of his players. Giannis would just check himself in and out of games when he felt like it. He’s a paper tiger who can’t handle players. Waaaay too inexperienced, and now,he’ll likely never get another job after that shit show.
Vs Doc Rivers and Craig Popplevich who do? :lol

To reiterate i did not see enough Mil games to know much about Griffin. I find it hard to believe he sucks as much as you claim. I do know that:

30-13 is >>>>>> 10-10 and the Spurs now perennial 50 loss seasons.


Hopefully the Spurs will have the record of the collapsed team one day.

[exstatic]

Vs Doc Rivers and Craig Popplevich who do? :lol

To reiterate i did not see enough Mil games to know much about Griffin. I find it hard to believe he sucks as much as you claim. I do know that:

30-13 is >>>>>> 10-10 and the Spurs now perennial 50 loss seasons.



:lol. Don’t conflate players with the idiots on this forum. Pop absolutely has the respect of his players. Doc, maybe not so much, but you don’t see players walk right past him to check themselves into or out of games.

Pethaps I should just have called it blatant open disrespect towards Griffin, and I’ve never seen anything like it before towards a full time NBA head coach.

[MultiTroll]

:lol. Don’t conflate players with the idiots on this forum. Pop absolutely has the respect of his players. Doc, maybe not so much, but you don’t see players walk right past him to check themselves into or out of games.

Pethaps I should just have called it blatant open disrespect towards Griffin, and I’ve never seen anything like it before towards a full time NBA head coach.
Players seeing Bryn Bryn Forbes start 151 straight games next to Pet Patty Mills for lockdown perimeter D plus?
Just because communist Pop controlled local media has no players questioning Pop, my bet is plenty have and still do.
Regardless of SA, and Pop was the ideal coach for losing + tanking to get Wemby....

Far as Greek Freak checking himself in etc, is that more about what the NBA has evolved into. Entitled punk ass super overpaid players who wag the tail?
CIA Pop himself said years ago to Timmy Dunks 'you guys are the ones who run the show' -paraphrasing.

Combined with what is obviously a weak assed / compromised ownership in Milwaukee, i don't know that Griffin was soo bad or there's plenty of other chit going on behind the scenes.

To this day i claim Coc Rivers has some super shady shit going on to keep getting these high profile high paying good roster teams.

[lefty]

Coc keeps getting these jobs because he won a ring

Even though he was carried by Thibs

[MultiTroll]

Coc keeps getting these jobs because he won a ring

Even though he was carried by Thibs
Bucks let Mike Budovich go.

Coq equally with one and only one ring. How does that explain the One Ring theory.

Griffin got sandwiched in between and squeezed out.
Doesn't make a bit of sense.

[lefty]

Bucks let Mike Budovich go.

Coq equally with one and only one ring. How does that explain the One Ring theory.

Griffin got sandwiched in between and squeezed out.
Doesn't make a bit of sense.
Cock has a longer career as a NBA head coach than both Bud and Griffin tbh

Gives more "credibility" and also enough time to connect to the right people, in basketball and in the media (not to mention Rivers worked for TNT and ABC before coaching); media push narratives, especially the "it's unfair a brother, let a lone a brother who won a ring in 08 as a head coach and was a professional player for +10 years, doesn't have a coaching job" one

[Mugen]

He never had the respect of his players. Giannis would just check himself in and out of games when he felt like it. He’s a paper tiger who can’t handle players. Waaaay too inexperienced, and now,he’ll likely never get another job after that shit show.

Didn't Wemby check himself into a game this season? :lol

[spurraider21]

wrong former bucks coach

[lefty]

Yep, We should get Bud back

[MultiTroll]

He never had the respect of his players. Giannis would just check himself in and out of games when he felt like it. He’s a paper tiger who can’t handle players. Waaaay too inexperienced, and now,he’ll likely never get another job after that shit show.


Didn't Wemby check himself into a game this season? :lol
Spurs' Victor Wembanyama checked himself back into Grizzlies game despite not being 'allowed to'

https://clutchpoints.com/spurs-news-victor-wembanyama-checked-himself-back-into-grizzlies-game-despite-not-allowed

Assuming exstatic will note Greek Freak did it in game(s) plural.

[MultiTroll]

...especially the "it's unfair a brother, let a lone a brother who won a ring in 08 as a head coach and was a professional player for +10 years, doesn't have a coaching job" one
By ousting a brotha who just got his 1st head coaching job and was 30-13?

[MultiTroll]

He never had the respect of his players. Giannis would just check himself in and out of games when he felt like it. He’s a paper tiger who can’t handle players. Waaaay too inexperienced, and now,he’ll likely never get another job after that shit show.


Didn't Wemby check himself into a game this season? :lol
exstatic skedaddled off this thread after you asked him. :lol

[Atl Spur]

Yep, We should get Bud back

I hope so!

[Knoxxx]

How bout former Spur Steve Kerr?

[MultiTroll]

Griffin is an insecure little bitch who didn’t have a system. They were absolutely not wrong to fire him.


really think....
take a moment and stop.
30-13 Adrian Griffin
17-19 Coc Rivers

But "Griffin had to go". :lmao

[MultiTroll]

Hopefully the Spurs will have the record of the collapsed team one day.


Coc keeps getting these jobs because he won a ring
yet modern day recent NBA has had 3 coaches who won a Championship in their 1st year.
Stheve Kerr
Ty Lue
Nicky Nurse

Circustances helped? Of course.
Meahwhile you have CIA Pop playing Bryn Bryn Forms, Sochan at PG along with Pops Pets at other positions.
Coc Rivers is 17-19 and so far 1-2 in the playoffs.
That Championship experience.

We'll never know but i'd like to have seen what would have played out with Griffin. Hey maybe he'll get another shot.

[Tyronn Lue]

yet modern day recent NBA has had 3 coaches who won a Championship in their 1st year.
Stheve Kerr
Ty Lue
Nicky Nurse

Circustances helped? Of course.
Meahwhile you have CIA Pop playing Bryn Bryn Forms, Sochan at PG along with Pops Pets at other positions.
Coc Rivers is 17-19 and so far 1-2 in the playoffs.
That Championship experience.

We'll never know but i'd like to have seen what would have played out with Griffin. Hey maybe he'll get another shot.
How are Kerr, Lue and Nurse doing now? Let me know when they win 5. All three walked into a winning program, much like Pop. Only one has seen more than lightning in a bottle. The myth of the great coach that coaches scrubs to the Finals is a movie narrative, not an NBA reality. 2014 was as close as you'll probably see. 2003 was pretty close.

[MultiTroll]

How are Kerr, Lue and Nurse doing now?
That's a huge part of my point that some veteran coach with *Championship experience is not neccessary.
To the point of the OP, Griffin gets run so we can see Coc Rivers destroy another lineup?
This ish from about "Griffin would have sucked for sure" from a couple above. What a load of crap.

Kerr does have the Golden Phaggots play hard and share the ball. I will def give him that.
Lue also has good game plans. But Playoff Puss and injured Kawhi. Cmon man no one can overcome that.
Nurse? Embiid is 70% of what he was since he got cheapshotted in that last major injury.

Pop? Requires at least one current MVP and no less then 4 All Stars to even have a chance at a Championship. He'll still bumble away 40% of those ops. 2006 in the running for Most Stacked Roster All Time to blow a Chip.

You did not just say the 2014 Spurs rosters was average and Pop willed and strategized them to a title?
Timmy Duncs coached that team and he was on a mission after Pop and Ginobilis disgraceful giveaway in 2013.

[TD 21]

What, no :lol Nurse? Guaranteed that'd be the reaction if Rivers were still coaching . . . of course, it's not about race though.

:lmao At the shameless self promoter riding TOSB Lowry, one of the worst playoff performers of at least his generation.

[Tyronn Lue]

That's a huge part of my point that some veteran coach with *Championship experience is not neccessary.
To the point of the OP, Griffin gets run so we can see Coc Rivers destroy another lineup?
This ish from about "Griffin would have sucked for sure" from a couple above. What a load of crap.

Kerr does have the Golden Phaggots play hard and share the ball. I will def give him that.
Lue also has good game plans. But Playoff Puss and injured Kawhi. Cmon man no one can overcome that.
Nurse? Embiid is 70% of what he was since he got cheapshotted in that last major injury.

Pop? Requires at least one current MVP and no less then 4 All Stars to even have a chance at a Championship. He'll still bumble away 40% of those ops. 2006 in the running for Most Stacked Roster All Time to blow a Chip.

You did not just say the 2014 Spurs rosters was average and Pop willed and strategized them to a title?
Timmy Duncs coached that team and he was on a mission after Pop and Ginobilis disgraceful giveaway in 2013.
I get the love for Tim, especially on this forum, but every great coach has great players. In fact they define each other. Pop's coaching resume is most impressive due to how he adapted to the change in the NBA rules and tendencies, and not only changed but won. It's not like Tim said "Hey Pop, let's stop forcing everything inside and instead shoot a lot of threes, I am tired of scoring". Pretty sure Tim never uttered "Let's trade Danny Green for Kawhi Leonard" or "Boris Diaw and Tiago Splitter are the keys to winning this series".

[spurraider21]

sigh... meanwhile we're stuck with the old man

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[scott]

We are losing Candace Dupree tho

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[MultiTroll]

We are losing Candace Dupree tho
Any insider news on who she helped "develop" the past two years?

Not implying she was lacking. Even the great Timmy Duncs on the bench had (well chose) to sit thru Popped starting Bryn Bryn and Patty.

[Dex]

sigh... meanwhile we're stuck with the old man

1788691049944105174

It's fine, Suns will fizzle out again, Durant will demand a trade and Bud will be let go within the next year or two

[vy65]

Bud to the Suns doesn't make much sense. That team is on a downward trajectory and there's no realistic path to contention in the near future. Ishbia could throw him a bag, I guess, and he could be promised some sort of say or control in the front office on top of his coaching role, but I just don't see it, outside of the money.

[Chinook]

Bud has to know that Suns job is horrible. There's no way he can build his system on a team controlled by flawed stars with no assets to bring in guys who can run his stuff.

[The Truth #6]

He could consider it because he knows Pop isn't leaving and has no other options. Perhaps he would trade Durant and retool along the way. Most importantly, perhaps he knows coaches don't have a lot of job security so he needs to keep his name out there. His perspective is possibly different than a fan's perspective.

[Seventyniner]

It's fine, Suns will fizzle out again, Durant will demand a trade and Bud will be let go within the next year or two

Bud taking that job tells me that Pop isn't planning to retire in the near future. If Pop wanted to do one more year and hand it over to Bud, imo Bud would have kept the secret and stayed one more year. But he's not gonna walk out on the Suns job even if Pop retires anyway.

[scott]

Coach bud officially to Phoenix. 5 years/$50 mil

[spurraider21]

thats a lot of money. explains why he took it. he knows he probably gets fired in 2 years and walks with the other 30 mil :lol

but sucks that he's off the market. the old man better get off his ass and get back to the lab. bud was my dream scenario as a successor to pop

[MultiTroll]

Coc Rivers :depressed
You people who burned on Adrian Griffin should be ashamed of yourselves. Running an African American brotha out after a 30-13 start.

And whining about Griffins 30-13 record not playing enough defense.
Well when he was hired on it was with the expectation Jrue Holliday would be his lead defensive guard. Oh ya, the guy who just won a Chip with Boston in a defensive role.
Instead replaced with cancer diva Damian Lilliard. Soft ass defense.

"Griffin had been hired in large part because of his reputation as the lead architect of the Toronto Raptors' defense, which ranked fifth in the NBA in 2019 en route to a championship. Horst even noted how impressed the team was with the way Griffin presented his ideas on how to revamp Milwaukee's defense during his interview." -BSPN