Game Thread: Spurs @ Rockets 7 PM CST 3 AM RIgA

[TheGreatYacht]

just matter of time before wemby leaves these losers behind
He will. Without a doubt. Especially with Brian Wrong at the helm with the same eye for talent as MR. Body

[djohn2oo8]

You got a keeper there DJohn. Get Luka to come over and you'll be talking shit late into May.
:tu

[ShutUp SayItAgain!]

Houston commentators :flipoff

[Pauleta14]

Props to Sengun for not gaf of the blocks and keeping going at Victor, I suspect Ime forced him a bit but still, nice.

[Tyronn Lue]

They call that fat fuck baby Jokic for a reason, not baby Adebayo.

:lol also Vic is listed at 7’3. NBA teams lie.
He has the perfect NBA build and he hung his foot in our asses tonight.

[Kurgan]

Vic's worst game in a while. Combination of fatigue and being banged up. He'll be better next game.

Dominant performance by Sengun. Wish he wasn't on such a despicable team lol

Meanwhile, Josh Primo is the 3rd best scorer on his GLeague team. Brian Wright still taking Ls.

[baseline bum]

Did victor attempt a shot in the 2nd half?:rollin

No, he kept giving the ball to Sengun tbh

[The Third Man]

Praying you get hit by a car

Damn, I hurt your feelings.
Sorry, pussy. God is dead.

[John B]

Gotta give it to Sengun taking it to Wemby. Wemby obviously needs strengthening. He’ll get there.

But yup nights like this you need someone else to guard Sengun. Wemby defending on post, then has to carry the team in scoring

[BatManu20]

Spurs drafting Joshua Prino over Sengun despite Sengun being widely considered the highest-rated player available on the board will never not be hilarious tbh :lol

[timtonymanu]

Spurs drafting Joshua Prino over Sengun despite Sengun being widely considered the highest-rated player available on the board will never not be hilarious tbh :lol

It reeked so much of their arrogance and overtrusting their “culture over talent” motto. I hate primo forever for existing in the NBA.

[Kurgan]

:lmao at retards that want Topic in the draft
:lmao Vic gonna get triple teamed
:lmao Sochan and Topic “spacing”
:lmao traffic cone defensively

That Sochan three point brick at the end of the game was sad as fuck.

[onechance87]

Spurs drafting Joshua Prino over Sengun despite Sengun being widely considered the highest-rated player available on the board will never not be hilarious tbh :lol

Should of been fired on the spot.

[FkLA]

I can't put my finger on what it reminds me of but Sengun has some goofy ass body movements/mannerisms when he's celebrating. Not even trying to hate, his game is awesome, it just always stands out to me. He prances around like a ballerina or something for his celebrations. :lol

[Tyronn Lue]

Sengun is going to have the best game of his career thus far.

[Tyronn Lue]

If Victor dropped 45 and 16, I cannot imagine the reaction.

[baseline bum]

Spurs drafting Joshua Prino over Sengun despite Sengun being widely considered the highest-rated player available on the board will never not be hilarious tbh :lol

Just thank fucking god OKC passed on him too

[TheGreatYacht]

That Sochan three point brick at the end of the game was sad as fuck.
Ime had absolutely no respect for that scrub. Scouts across the league saw that and will game plan just like this against us. Said it before and I’ll say it again. Send that gap toothed fuck packing before he gets found out

Teams would never swarm Victor like that with snipers like a Trae Young or Dillingham out there. Topic will have a nice respectable career as a journeyman like Garrett Temple

[Russ]

Spurs drafting Joshua Prino over Sengun despite Sengun being widely considered the highest-rated player available on the board will never not be hilarious tbh :lol

But, of course, they wouldn't have gotten Wemby then.

[Robz4000]

Vic's worst game in a while. Combination of fatigue and being banged up. He'll be better next game.

Dominant performance by Sengun. Wish he wasn't on such a despicable team lol

Meanwhile, Josh Primo is the 3rd best scorer on his GLeague team. Brian Wright still taking Ls.

Next game is Sabonis so might be more of the same unfortunately.

[FkLA]

But, of course, they wouldn't have gotten Wemby then.

This is why I don't complain about recent missed picks. Everything that transpired led to us landing the greatest prospect ever. It's the picks moving forward that matter.

[objective]

:lmao at retards that want Topic in the draft
:lmao Vic gonna get triple teamed
:lmao Sochan and Topic “spacing”
:lmao traffic cone defensively

Can't disagree

Shooting shooting shooting

Defense. Defense. Defense

Team needs it in the draft

[slick'81]

Yea pau gasol jr aka sengun and wemby would of been a nice wet dream

[objective]

But, of course, they wouldn't have gotten Wemby then.

Rockets and Spurs had the same record despite Sengun

It's entirely possible Spurs would have been just as bad

[John B]

Next game is Sabonis so might be more of the same unfortunately.

Wemby needs help defending the post especially on a great physical player like Sengun, and still be expected to carry the team on offense. Nights like that Pop could’ve put Mamu/Barlow to bang with Sengun, and get physical. Mamu had great defensive stretch defending Markkanen nights ago.

[TheGreatYacht]

Wemby needs help defending the post especially on a great physical player like Sengun, and still be expected to carry the team on offense. Nights like that Pop could’ve put Mamu/Barlow to bang with Sengun, and get physical. Mamu had great defensive stretch defending Markkanen nights ago.
That senile fuck refused to double Embiid on the night he got 70 (in which Vic was also in foul trouble all game, I might add) He isn’t adjusting to shit. Especially with Mr Trust the Process in his ear.

[TheGreatYacht]

Can't disagree

Shooting shooting shooting

Defense. Defense. Defense

Team needs it in the draft
Hopefully the low IQ posters in the Draft thread watched that game so they can stop speaking that bust coming here into the air.

[spurraider21]

Wemby was playing very uninspired. Maybe hurt/gassed but just lazy offense. With that said, need shooters around him that the defense will respect. Particularly brutal when the point guard is just sagged off of

[spurraider21]

I mean if you want shooting and defense from a lead guard your best bet is Sheppard and hoping he has enough playmaking chops

[John B]

That senile fuck refused to double Embiid on the night he got 70 (in which Vic was also in foul trouble all game, I might add) He isn’t adjusting to shit. Especially with Mr Trust the Process in his ear.

I mean MJ, Kobe defended the best players and still expected to carry on offense. It makes you wonder if this is a learning process to learn from. Wemby will adjust defensively next time. Yet come the time the Spurs are competing, Wemby would need help defending the best post-up players and avoid getting pounded too much. I think Sochan would be too small in such situation. I wonder if they add a big physical player or stand pat which would be a crime tbh

[cd98]

If Spurs had drafted Segun instead of Primo, likely Wemby would not be on the Spurs. I'll take bad GM moves and Wemby. It's just that they can't screw up on drafting or assembling a team from this point forward.

[onechance87]

wtf is this roster wright created.

[TheGreatYacht]

I mean MJ, Kobe defended the best players and still expected to carry on offense. It makes you wonder if this is a learning process to learn from. Wemby will adjust defensively next time. Yet come the time the Spurs are competing, Wemby would need help defending the best post-up players and avoid getting pounded too much. I think Sochan would be too small in such situation. I wonder if they add a big physical player or stand pat which would be a crime tbh
Kobe definitely did not do that his final 10 years or so in the league. It’s okay to defend as a team, it all doesn’t have to be 1 on 1. Tonight was unacceptable and a coaching malpractice. Amen Thompson is one of the worst shooters I’ve ever seen and his defender was glued to him all game, leaving Sengun 1 on 1 with Collins for the entirety of the game. Jalen Green could have also been left open to send a help defender.

[Slippy]

Pretty much like Sabonas. Victor got bodied out of the way
Saying that victor hardly went back at him . Yes he played in a crowd. too often he settled for the 3 or was loose with the ball when inside.

Rockets were able to pack the paint cos they never had to guard Sohan or Jones. Jones has been mIA for a few games now. Sohan should be embarrassed ss he never could make the rockets respond . They sagged off himeven when he was inside the three.

[skin27]

Looks like wemby cant carry this team into winning games in the future.hopefully im wrong.

[Mr. Body]

Game threads are just garbage now, huh.

[onechance87]

Looks like wemby cant carry this team into winning games in the future.hopefully im wrong.

are u okay bro

[kxs783kms]

This is why I don't complain about recent missed picks. Everything that transpired led to us landing the greatest prospect ever. It's the picks moving forward that matter.

Too bad the others are too slow to realize this. After losing Kawhi, the plan to get Wemby started then. They knew about him for years because of the ties with Parker, etc, so they had to put on a multi-year tank. Drafting good players just wasn't going to cut it. Getting rid of Murray in time was the last piece of the puzzle.

[Chinook]

Wemby was playing very uninspired. Maybe hurt/gassed but just lazy offense. With that said, need shooters around him that the defense will respect. Particularly brutal when the point guard is just sagged off of

Wemby did not look like he should have played tonight. I wouldn't be surprised to hear the team wanted him to sit but he didn't want to let the winning streak die. It definitely felt like Pop played into the Rockets' game plan by trying to force the ball to Victor. As crazy as it may seem, they were better able to deal with the Rocket when they had Collins out there. That should never be the case, and it's a testament to how much Wemby was ailing. But it was bonkers he played the whole quarter. If he sits even for a few minutes in the middle of the fourth, the Spurs probably find a way to win.

I don't mind the loss, so I'm not actually mad. But it felt like a game to give Barlow some run. I guess if Pop continues with his streak of having Victor never share the court with Draymond, that opportunity will come on Thursday.

[Chinook]

Looks like wemby cant carry this team into winning games in the future.hopefully im wrong.

Guys who are 20 years old tend to not have that in their wheelhouse. It's one the primary ways in which Victor is still on a slower timeline than a lot of posters want. Wemby, even hurt, had a number of strong possessions, but without his agility, it wasn't going to work. Even so, in a few years, he'll be able to do more with less effort, and that will allow him to have consistent games even when his health and energy level fluctuates.

[timtonymanu]

Game threads are just garbage now, huh.

“You son of a… I’m in!”

[Jordan Jackson]

The Spurs can’t shoot. Rocket blitz, doubled and tripled teamed Wemby all game with and without the ball.

No point guard, no shooters no chance.

Also, please for the love of all that is sacred, let this be the last 20 games of Champagnie’s NBA career as a Spur. Whoever’s idea that was should be fired.

[z0sa]

Victor was due for an off-game. Unfortunately, I think it was the fouls that did it. He was looking on point to start, but got a bit off-kilter on the defensive end a few times and Sengun made him pay.

[Atl Spur]

It should be chalked up as a learning experience for Wemby; he will learn to make his weakness his strengths. At some point he will have seen everything they can throw at him to try and stop him……. It’s year one. A better pg and bigger body in the post is needed. It’s dope that we have the means to fix it all, not to many teams can do that without sinking the franchise.

[Ice009]

If Spurs had drafted Segun instead of Primo, likely Wemby would not be on the Spurs. I'll take bad GM moves and Wemby. It's just that they can't screw up on drafting or assembling a team from this point forward.

Yeah, I need to remember this. I'll take the screwups and leave it be because we were lucky enough to get Victor. But like you said, from this point on, they can't be screwing up.

[ambchang]

Sengun will go down in history as a better player than Wemby because of this one game, just like how Hakeem is better than the Admiral.

[djohn2oo8]

Sengun will go down in history as a better player than Wemby because of this one game, just like how Hakeem is better than the Admiral.
Yeah that’s not why Hakeem is better than David. Also it’s OKAY to acknowledge Wemby got his ass kicked. It happens. He will learn from it.

[Pauleta14]

It was the closest thing from a hazing from Pop lol

He let Victor on an island all night with almost no help either on offense or defense.

As if Pop didn't like the growing hype surrounding Wemby and wanted to show him how far he still is

[djohn2oo8]

It was the closest thing from a hazing from Pop lol

He let Victor on an island all night with almost no help either on offense or defense.

As if Pop didn't like the growing hype surrounding Wemby and wanted to show him how far he still is
Damn :lol

[Pauleta14]

Segun still had a great game mate

But he himself was surprised at how Wemby was left by himself in the post game interview

[Spurs Homer]

Meh
wemby was due for a normal game after his streak of superhuman performances


pretty sure he will be ready for shit-goon next time

[ambchang]

Yeah that’s not why Hakeem is better than David. Also it’s OKAY to acknowledge Wemby got his ass kicked. It happens. He will learn from it.

Oh right, we would have to have Van Fleet work on TNT and pimp about Sengun for 30 years afterwards.

[djohn2oo8]

Oh right, we would have to have Van Fleet work on TNT and pimp about Sengun for 30 years afterwards.
You seem upset. Maybe you should look at how Victor played last night and how fatigue has been a factor overall this year.

[spurraider21]

Wemby's length gives him a lot of room for error, such that even when he's bullied in the restricted area and pushed under the rim, he can still kind of reach out and block the shot where most defenders would just be out of the play

But that's not going to be a sustainable form of defense, and Sengun proved that. He kept pushing Victor under the rim and took his chances. Vic blocked Sengun about 5 times, but he just played the odds and kept going to that well and was rewarded for it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The Spurs home/road disparity looks real stark as of late. Sucked most of the RRR, came back competitive as hell, back on the road again and come out completely flat.

[Knoxxx]

How many offensive fouls did Sengun get away with? Thought I saw a few...

[JeffDuncan]

wtf is this roster wright created.


The technical term for it is “garbage.”

[JeffDuncan]

It was the closest thing from a hazing from Pop lol

He let Victor on an island all night with almost no help either on offense or defense.

As if Pop didn't like the growing hype surrounding Wemby and wanted to show him how far he still is


You think it was intentional. Allow the truth to sink in. Pop is not a good basketball coach.

[Trill Clinton]

wtf is this roster wright created.

A tank for Wemby roster

[ambchang]

You seem upset. Maybe you should look at how Victor played last night and how fatigue has been a factor overall this year.

Good 'ole "you seem upset".

Yes, Hakeem's entire reputation of being an untouchable center was based on his one series vs. the Spurs, when Bob Hill decided not to double Hakeem while Rodman didn't guard anyone for an entire series so that he can hang around the rim and stat pad his rebounds. At the same time, Robinson was double and triple teamed with outside "shooters" like Avery Johnson, Vinny Del Negro and Dennis Rodman, while the Rockets had the Jet, Drexler, Horry, and freaking Sam Cassell coming off the bench. Their bloody bench warmer was Pete Chilcutt, would could outshoot the entire Spurs team outside of maybe Sean Elliott.

Then you have the Jet go on TNT and talk about that one series as proof of Hakeem's dominance, without putting anything else in perspective.

[djohn2oo8]

Good 'ole "you seem upset".

Yes, Hakeem's entire reputation of being an untouchable center was based on his one series vs. the Spurs, when Bob Hill decided not to double Hakeem while Rodman didn't guard anyone for an entire series so that he can hang around the rim and stat pad his rebounds. At the same time, Robinson was double and triple teamed with outside "shooters" like Avery Johnson, Vinny Del Negro and Dennis Rodman, while the Rockets had the Jet, Drexler, Horry, and freaking Sam Cassell coming off the bench. Their bloody bench warmer was Pete Chilcutt, would could outshoot the entire Spurs team outside of maybe Sean Elliott.

Then you have the Jet go on TNT and talk about that one series as proof of Hakeem's dominance, without putting anything else in perspective.
Too long, not reading any of it. Bottom line was there wasn’t really any category that David was better in. And he got dominated. David was MVP and got his chain snatched in a way no one has before or after. And you are mad 30 years later about one series.

[rjv]

sengun is a very crafty player and he had a great game. wemby seemed more troubled by dillon brooks tbh, and once he picked up his 3rd foul, sengun went right at him. it'll be interesting to see how the rockets play against wemby next week. will they continue to go through sengun? it seemed as if he was willing to get his shot blocked from time to time but kept attacking anyway. the trick will be to deny sengun the ball that low under the basket where he can use that big turkish arse of his to push wemby out from under the basket. to be fair to wemby, it looks as if sengun threw his body into wemby when he had his arms straight up on a few trips and drew the fouls. hopefully, pop works the ref before the game next tuesday.

[Blizzardwizard]

Maybe the most satisfying aspect of the Wemby experience so far is the post-game banner-raising that goes on in other fanbases the few times he's had a bad game.


Stopping the player means more than winning the game. That's when you know you've got a good one.

[Pauleta14]

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You think it was intentional. Allow the truth to sink in. Pop is not a good basketball coach.

Im not shy of critics on Pop but the whole game?

same on offense, he’s had multiple timeout to draw a play to put him back in the game mentally but he did nothing. You can’t be THAT incompetent.

same for the lack of PG that forced him to learn quicker to create his own shot when a top PG would have sent him L’Obs all the time and slow his progression.

i think Pop thought Victor could « take it » bc of the poise he’s shown. I also think Pop dislike the praise and hype of the last few weeks and would love to be able to teach his way.

listen to his post game conf, he acts as of the Spurs lost by 40. That’s his thing, he loves it

[ambchang]

Too long, not reading any of it. Bottom line was there wasn’t really any category that David was better in. And he got dominated. David was MVP and got his chain snatched in a way no one has before or after. And you are mad 30 years later about one series.

I can’t dispute it so I will just say I didn’t read it but still respond with the same tripe that’s been repeated ad nauseam over the last 30 years.

Robinson actually had the better b2b record vs hakeem.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sengun was throwing the same junk at Wemby that Sabonis was.

[Frenchfred]

Wemby’s kryptonite is big centers. He doesn’t have the strength to keep them from the paint. That means that the Spurs will have to either get a strong PF/C to guard those guys or double team them. It is good for Wemby to get his ass kicked once in a while so it doesn’t go to his head.

[JeffDuncan]

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Im not shy of critics on Pop but the whole game?

same on offense, he’s had multiple timeout to draw a play to put him back in the game mentally but he did nothing. You can’t be THAT incompetent. …



Yes, he can. Pop can, in fact, be that incompetent.

[Ninja Roach]

Good 'ole "you seem upset".

Yes, Hakeem's entire reputation of being an untouchable center was based on his one series vs. the Spurs, when Bob Hill decided not to double Hakeem while Rodman didn't guard anyone for an entire series so that he can hang around the rim and stat pad his rebounds. At the same time, Robinson was double and triple teamed with outside "shooters" like Avery Johnson, Vinny Del Negro and Dennis Rodman, while the Rockets had the Jet, Drexler, Horry, and freaking Sam Cassell coming off the bench. Their bloody bench warmer was Pete Chilcutt, would could outshoot the entire Spurs team outside of maybe Sean Elliott.

Then you have the Jet go on TNT and talk about that one series as proof of Hakeem's dominance, without putting anything else in perspective.

:clap It's really rare to see someone write a historically accurate account of that series. Hakeem was super selfish early on in his career, demanded a trade at least once, sat out for contract disputes, was accused of faking injuries and wasn't deemed a "legend" until those playoff runs where all of a sudden the NBA decided that his dreamshake horseshit wasn't traveling anymore. Officials took away one of Elliott's best moves when they arbitrarily decided one offseason (I think it was a baseline spin if I recall correctly) that that move was now a travel, but Hakeem became the NBA's darling.

Also, Pete Freaking Chilcutt........ I remember Carl Herrera having a seemingly legendary series against us too. Shameful business :fight

[Ninja Roach]

Too long, not reading any of it. Bottom line was there wasn’t really any category that David was better in. And he got dominated. David was MVP and got his chain snatched in a way no one has before or after. And you are mad 30 years later about one series.

And you're here and mad because the scoreboard is 5-2 and will only get more lopsided. :pimpslap

[daslicer]

Sengun has really good post moves and footwork. I wanted him over Primo a few years back.

[BatManu20]

Gnarly looking injury for Sengun. Sucks tbh. At the tail end of the game no less. I imagine he’s done for the season and likely much longer.

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[TekXX]

Wright sniffers of Spurstalk vindicated.

[z0sa]

Too bad about Sengun! Dude is a low post monster in the Tim Duncan style, not very athletic but hard nosed and doesn't give up easily. Hoping for a solid and full recovery, we've got lots more battles in the future.

[spurraider21]

He’s like a Pau/Scola hybrid tbh. Sucks for him. But

:lol djohn2oo8

[Frenchfred]

season is probably over for him. He’ll get back strong next year, I hope that Wemby will kick his ass

[spurraider21]

His season is definitely over and far from a sure thing he’ll be ready at the start of next season

[pad300]

His season is definitely over and far from a sure thing he’ll be ready at the start of next season

Dunno. I did something like that, back when I was younger. Hyperextended the knee backwards. Hurt like a motherfucker. I was done for the game right then and there, but I was up and playing again in 2 weeks, no surgery or anything like that. Admittedly, I never did jump as high as Sengun does, nor weigh as much. He may have torn something, but it's at least possible that he hasn't.

[spurraider21]

https://sicscore.com/nba/updates/alperen-sengun-injury-update

[heyheymymy]

hate to hear it about Sengun tons of respect for him

get well soon

[Ice009]

Too long, not reading any of it. Bottom line was there wasn’t really any category that David was better in. And he got dominated. David was MVP and got his chain snatched in a way no one has before or after. And you are mad 30 years later about one series.

I like you, but coming up with that response (not reading any of it is weak, shows that you've got your head in the sand) pretty much shows you've no argument to make. I just started watching the NBA a season or two before as a young kid and I didn't know what was going on around then (I became a Spurs fan because I watch a Spurs Vs Orlando game where both Shaq and David have over 40 points each and the Spurs won the game, so I just gravitated towards the Spurs as I thought both those big men were great. May have become a Shaq fan if the Magic won. Not sure what it was, but I was amazed at how agile both those big men were. I thought they were superhero like figures back then).

Anyway, about the series, I later learned (when I learned more about basketball) what really happened in that series and understood it more. The Spurs had an inferior team, with nowhere near as many good shooters as the Rockets had. The defensive strategy was poor and Dennis Rodman unfortunately was stat padding.

How would Hakeem have done with the Spurs roster? Like Ambchang said, D-Rob had to play Hakeem one on one straight up pretty much the whole series, and with the way Hakeem was playing, that was just idiotic coaching from the Spurs' head coach. How would Hakeem have faired playing D-Rob one on one? It might have been a much, much closer series had that have happened and maybe go all 7 games, or maybe even the Spurs win it (I'd still favour the Rockets, though, due to the superior team, but D-Rob could drag some shit teams a long, long way in his prime). Head to head record is 30-12 in favour of D-Rob. That's a pretty big disparity. As far as I know/remember, that series is the only time the Spurs and Rockets played in the playoffs, so just because the Rockets won that one series 4-2, that does not in any way shape or form make the disparity between the two players as big as people make it out to be. I also remember a couple of those games were close (game 1 was 1 point loss and game 6 was close too. I can't remember if the Spurs were in it with a chance to win game 6 late, though, so maybe someone that remembers can remind me), so even with a much weaker team, the Spurs still were in the series.

Edit : Just saw the injury to Sengun. That really sucks :(. I hope he's alright. He was absolutely phenomenal in the game against the Spurs last week.

[pad300]

Sengun is not F'ed long term...

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1767309733533229439

[r0drig0lac]

Sengun is not F'ed long term...

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1767309733533229439

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