Resurgence since the ASB

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Shooting, defense, passing, and just overall consistency seem to have really turned a corner these past few weeks.

Anyone having changed opinions since about players prospects or draft needs/priorities?

For example does the improvement in Jones, Branham, and Wesley make a difference at PG or SF?
Or do you think the roster is not as bad as thought and we would be more justified in packaging some of our assets?

[Mr. Body]

I always was wait-and-see with Branham especially, but also Wesley. Pounding the fucking rock. There's been a ton of work being done constantly and now we're seeing some of the results. Very happy with where these very young players are going.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I always was wait-and-see with Branham especially, but also Wesley. Pounding the fucking rock. There's been a ton of work being done constantly and now we're seeing some of the results. Very happy with where these very young players are going.

That is fair. I am much more bull on the team's floor than I was before. I really think Wesley in particular has a shot to be very good.

[RC_Drunkford]

2nd in the league in 3-point shooting since the ASB. Top 10 defense with Wemby on the floor. Looks like we finally got something to work with.

[thiste]

This says best 3 point shooting team since ASB.

https://twitter.com/BenjaminMoubech/status/1766682420869239121

[itzsoweezee]

Small sample size theater. Anyone making front office decisions based on a few weeks and ignoring the rest of the season should be fired. This team still only has two starter-level players on the roster (maybe Sochan will make it three), so improvements can be made at nearly every position.

[z0sa]

Everyone but Vassell and Wemby continue to be expendable, imho.

Branham has proven he's a bench-level player in the NBA, I'd say. Wesley needs work, but last night was a BIG step forward. He looked truly NBA-level as well (vs GS) - though I'd caution the sample size, obviously (for Branham as well, though less so).

Tre Jones has been NBA level for quite some time. He's just not a starter on a title team -- disappears too easily. In a playoff series, opponents will just sag off of him (except in corner three's, maybe) and our whole offense will be blown.

He'd be great coming off the bench, but then what about Wesley and possibly Branham? There are still decisions that need to be made at the point. None of these guys are starters on a title team -- and likely, borderline contributors at best. Branham is a little less impacted as he can get quality minutes at SG, and we don't have much going on there right now.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Small sample size theater. Anyone making front office decisions based on a few weeks and ignoring the rest of the season should be fired. This team still only has two starter-level players on the roster (maybe Sochan will make it three), so improvements can be made at nearly every position.

Undeniably small sample size. When it comes to the shooting, I agree with you 100%. Too many of the guys shooting well have streaky pasts.

Sochan, Branham, Wesley, and Barlow have uncertain ceilings. I also believe they have raised their floors. I don't think they are going to unlearn rotations on defense or the ball movements out of particular sets on offense.

Making comments about timelines is kind of moot because the club is not going to be able to act until the season is over. Regression is certainly possible but there is history that supports progression at this point of the season.

[TekXX]

14 wins, outside wemby it's mostly bench players and guys that belong in the G-league. Doesn't matter if they get better they'll never be good enough.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

14 wins, outside wemby it's mostly bench players and guys that belong in the G-league. Doesn't matter if they get better they'll never be good enough.

that's the spirit. we'll always suck! :lol

[TekXX]

that's the spirit. we'll always suck! :lol

Ok sell me on this team having a winning record with the current squad.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ok sell me on this team having a winning record with the current squad.

why would I bother?

[onechance87]

Other teams are injured or tired,Not taking this run serious.

[TekXX]

why would I bother?

Because you know they can't get to a winning record?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Because you know they can't get to a winning record?

Trying real hard to lead me down a stupid line. Not interested. Would be nice if you had anything else on offer.

[Harry Callahan]

Sifting through the hackers and non-hackers is needed. What about Dom Barlow? He looks like a rotation player right now to me.

How many 20 YO players does SA have right now? 4 or 5? Some of these young guys outside of Wemby and Vassell will stick around and be a part of much better squad down the road. Not all of them - not enough roster spots.

IMO, the FO will poach a couple of experienced guys in Free Agency to supplement the top ten and the upcoming draft choices will fill out the future ten man rotation.

[onechance87]

Sifting through the hackers and non-hackers is needed. What about Dom Barlow? He looks like a rotation player right now to me.

How many 20 YO players does SA have right now? 4 or 5? Some of these young guys outside of Wemby and Vassell will stick around and be a part of much better squad down the road. Not all of them - not enough roster spots.

IMO, the FO will poach a couple of experienced guys in Free Agency to supplement the top ten and the upcoming draft choices will fill out the future ten man rotation.

barlow been deserving of playing time but pop has refused to play him in favor of collins.He only got to play yesterday
cause few guys sat out yesterday.Hopefully pop gives him min from here.

[Harry Callahan]

The Golden State Play by Play guys were bragging on their young big (#32 Jackson-Davis) last night and he looked good, but I like Barlow better. He seems like a more skilled player overall and the Golden State player is already 24 years old.

Does anyone think Golden State will fall off a cliff in the next year or two? They've had a good ten year run, but it looks like that it's closing soon with age and injury.

[tbdog]

Regardless, lots of decisions moving forward, regardless if they swing a big deal for eg Trae or not. Potentially 2 more rookies coming in, plus maybe even a second rounder. While still developing Sidy, Wesley, Branham.

[mystargtr34]

The Spurs lineup of Wemby-Sochan-Keldon-Vassell-Tre has a net rating of +20 over 107 minutes and 32 games. 4th highest for lineups with over 100 minutes and 15 games played.

https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/advanced?CF=MIN*GE*100:GP*GE*15&dir=D&sort=NET_RATING

Pretty funny tbh.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

Not writing anyone off under the age of 25. But yeah for this team to be a contender theyll cycle off 75pct+ of the roster

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sifting through the hackers and non-hackers is needed. What about Dom Barlow? He looks like a rotation player right now to me.

How many 20 YO players does SA have right now? 4 or 5? Some of these young guys outside of Wemby and Vassell will stick around and be a part of much better squad down the road. Not all of them - not enough roster spots.

IMO, the FO will poach a couple of experienced guys in Free Agency to supplement the top ten and the upcoming draft choices will fill out the future ten man rotation.

I feel like Sochan, Barlow, and Wesley have the chops to handle playing NBA defense. It's going to be fun to watch and see if and how much of an offensive game they can develop. The latter two are incredibly raw. Hopefully they have the drive to work like Wemby and Kawhi.

[exstatic]

The Golden State Play by Play guys were bragging on their young big (#32 Jackson-Davis) last night and he looked good, but I like Barlow better. He seems like a more skilled player overall and the Golden State player is already 24 years old.

Does anyone think Golden State will fall off a cliff in the next year or two? They've had a good ten year run, but it looks like that it's closing soon with age and injury.

One of the hazards of drafting older players. Curry and Klay both had marvelous careers after being drafted at 21, but their team run is over after 10 years.

[Fireball]

I want a PG that is not undersized, shoots 40% from three and can play pick and roll with Victor, throw accurate lob passes. Neither of our guys have that ceiling tbh ...

[R. DeMurre]

Makes sense that fans get attached to current players, but history usually shows that when a generational talent gets drafted by a bad team, that guy goes on to win his first championship with a team that has very few and often zero players from his rookie year.

[chubbs]

resurgence? would that be the correct word for a team that never surged to begin with?

[vy65]

"Resurgence" for a team that has gone 3-8? lol

[Russ]

resurgence? would that be the correct word for a team that never surged to begin with?

In one sense you're right, but in another sense . . .

:lobt2: :lobt2::lobt2: :lobt2::lobt2:

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Makes sense that fans get attached to current players, but history usually shows that when a generational talent gets drafted by a bad team, that guy goes on to win his first championship with a team that has very few and often zero players from his rookie year.

Well, given the average rate of team turnover and tee time period from rookie years to win championships I am not sure you have presented a unique situation.

[Seventyniner]

resurgence? would that be the correct word for a team that never surged to begin with?

Just a surgence then.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol nitpicking word choice. nice.

Spurs have 9 games and a 3-6 record since the ASB so counselor crayola combines pettiness with lo info. Speaks to a general ignorance towards statistical biasing he has a penchant for.

Of course improvement is based on past performance and not on an arbitrary ideal and it remains a marked improvement.

[vy65]

lol 3-6 resurgence
lol general ignorance
lol ESL low information poster

[FuzzyLumpkins]

lol 3-6 resurgence
lol general ignorance
lol ESL low information poster

you seem to be coming out the ears in your need to get back at me. :lol

[vy65]

also, lol even smaller sample size for the "resurgence"
and, lol ESL speaker not learning what the prefix "re" means

[FuzzyLumpkins]

also, lol even smaller sample size for the "resurgence"
and, lol ESL speaker not learning what the prefix "re" means

since the ASB is hard I know. and doubling down on the word choice. you are fit to be tied.

[vy65]

you seem to be coming out the ears in your need to get back at me. :lol

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

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They have 4.7 stars on google. Worth checking out

:lol you are now insisting on the word choice. I love the grandstanding, crayola.

[vy65]

since the ASB is hard I know. And doubling down on the word choice. you are fit to be tied.

I know it's hard learning a new language, but in English we capitalize the first letter after a period. See above.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I know it's hard learning a new language, but in English we capitalize the first letter after a period. See above.

now grammar smack. Feeling inferior?

[SpursBills]

Hard to say. Part of it is that Spurs follow a pattern of sucking at the start of the year and then getting better over the course of the season with SPAM. Part of it is probably that Spurs have been so bad this year that teams aren't taking them seriously anymore, even though their point differential has been like -3 since the end of point Sochan (-10 last year). The usual suspect reasons, like playing tanking teams or playing teams resting players have been less applicable lately but are also going to play a larger role in the coming weeks.

[jjspur]

Resurgence ? You mean going 3-6 instead of 0-9 or 1 -8. If it helps you sleep better, yeah that's resurgence. Actually someone in the front office has probably said that they can play rather than keep tanking so long as they don't get better than the 4th overall worst record. We won't catch Memphis or Portland and the wizards and pistons are tanking worse than us. Charlotte got the same message so they're playing slightly better as well. Lots of the same tanking teams as last year chasing those ping pong balls.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Resurgence ? You mean going 3-6 instead of 0-9 or 1 -8. If it helps you sleep better, yeah that's resurgence. Actually someone in the front office has probably said that they can play rather than keep tanking so long as they don't get better than the 4th overall worst record. We won't catch Memphis or Portland and the wizards and pistons are tanking worse than us. Charlotte got the same message so they're playing slightly better as well. Lots of the same tanking teams as last year chasing those ping pong balls.

I was thinking about the improved rotations, better passing and execution out of sets, and overall. Winning on the road without Wemby reminds me of the days when we were really good as that is exactly the type of thing those teams were known for.

I am also fine with a 3rd place record and I think adding talent to the roster is more important than marginal changes in record.

[CorrectCrusader]

The Golden State Play by Play guys were bragging on their young big (#32 Jackson-Davis) last night and he looked good, but I like Barlow better. He seems like a more skilled player overall and the Golden State player is already 24 years old.

Does anyone think Golden State will fall off a cliff in the next year or two? They've had a good ten year run, but it looks like that it's closing soon with age and injury.

They're stuck right now. They just paid Draymond, Steph is old, Klay is washed. They don't have the assets to retool around Steph so it's highly likely they either Trade steph for whatever they can get and rebuild. Either way, not a great future for them.

[chubbs]

Resurgence ? You mean going 3-6 instead of 0-9 or 1 -8. If it helps you sleep better, yeah that's resurgence. Actually someone in the front office has probably said that they can play rather than keep tanking so long as they don't get better than the 4th overall worst record. We won't catch Memphis or Portland and the wizards and pistons are tanking worse than us. Charlotte got the same message so they're playing slightly better as well. Lots of the same tanking teams as last year chasing those ping pong balls.

jjspur with the truth atomics

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

This team got exponentially better after Pop decided it was worth having an actual point guard bring the ball up the floor.

[vy65]

3-7 resurgence. Ride the wave guys.

[Tyronn Lue]

14 wins, outside wemby it's mostly bench players and guys that belong in the G-league. Doesn't matter if they get better they'll never be good enough.
Joker was a 2nd round pick. You'll never find those diamonds if you expect them to be faceted in the mine.

[Jordan Jackson]

Besides Wemby. There are no “Jokić” to be found on this current roster. The minute that dude hit an NBA court it was obvious what he was. We just did know if he would ever lose the weight and get his conditioning right.

He finished 3rd in ROTY voting. His second year he was 2nd in MIP voting.

If a guys got it you know pretty quickly. Are there exceptions sure. But some of you are lying to yourselves about the so called development of some of these guys.

[ambchang]

So who finished 1st and 2nd in RoTY that year and 1st in MIP the next? What happened to those players?

[lefty]

RESURGENCE

[Pauleta14]

So who finished 1st and 2nd in RoTY that year and 1st in MIP the next? What happened to those players?

KAT 1st Krystap 2nd for ROY

Giannis MIP iircc

[vy65]

Lol

[Tyronn Lue]

What brand makes the best moral victory cigars? Asking for a friend.

[vy65]

What brand makes the best moral victory cigars? Asking for a friend.

Have you ever tried “third worst post-ASB?” They’re a lot like a macanudo

[spurraider21]

Have you ever tried “third worst post-ASB?” They’re a lot like a macanudo
Take it easy, crayola

[vy65]

Take it easy, crayola

Your platform of bluster betrays a thirst for crayon status

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Love the rent free, boys.

Came home from watching the game. Playing better still.

Cry about marginal victories when then do not matter. Still have not figured I do not care about the same things.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Your platform of bluster betrays a thirst for crayon status

Bluster is things like losing an argument and talking about being a lawyer. You passed the bar yet cannot do simple deductions. You recall the convos about mutually exclusive?

I called you Counselor Crayola for that reason. Not bluster. You suck at deduction, Crayola.

[Knoxxx]

This didn’t age well, but we didn’t want to surge all that much either.

Next thing we know TOR be picking AHEAD of us! We need well played Ls.

[spurraider21]

top 5 team in the west

[FuzzyLumpkins]

top 5 team in the west

Curious what you are feeling good about?

The way I see it either this account is part of the troll swarm. Lord knows you like to share that same brain, or. . .

you didn't know :lol

[spurraider21]

Curious what you are feeling good about?
not really feeling good about anything. i dont enjoy watching the sorry state of the spurs team. wemby is phenomenal and by and large has exceeded by expectations for this year. i dont like that devin vassell is basically the only other first round pick in the last 6-7 years that we can feel reasonably confident will be a solid starting option 2 years from now

i dont buy the random optimism over small sample stuff. we had this same discussion about sochan's 3 point shooting earlier in the season too


The way I see it either this account is part of the troll swarm. Lord knows you like to share that same brain, or. . .
ok sure, thats the way you see it.


you didn't know :lol
didnt know what?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

not really feeling good about anything. i dont enjoy watching the sorry state of the spurs team. wemby is phenomenal and by and large has exceeded by expectations for this year. i dont like that devin vassell is basically the only other first round pick in the last 6-7 years that we can feel reasonably confident will be a solid starting option 2 years from now

i dont buy the random optimism over small sample stuff. we had this same discussion about sochan's 3 point shooting earlier in the season too


ok sure, thats the way you see it.


didnt know what?

nah that is the way it has been demonstrated to be but yes let us try to dredge some authority on this account using the exact same pathology as I have been talking about and demonstrating in action continually.

this should have been an obvious bait thread to anyone not extremely mentally ill.

[vy65]

nah that is the way it has been demonstrated to be but yes let us try to dredge some authority on this account using the exact same pathology as I have been talking about and demonstrating in action continually.

this should have been an obvious bait thread to anyone not extremely mentally ill.

I'd suggest asking your ESL program for your money back, but given the results on display here, it most definitely was a free one.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol still with the copium

[spurraider21]

nah that is the way it has been demonstrated to be but yes let us try to dredge some authority on this account using the exact same pathology as I have been talking about and demonstrating in action continually.

this should have been an obvious bait thread to anyone not extremely mentally ill.
word salad followed by "jess trolling"

you're boring

[FuzzyLumpkins]

word salad followed by "jess trolling"

you're boring

And here we are again with the same ignorance to mutual exclusivity. Similar to how trolling does not preclude mental illness, trolling does not preclude demonstrating extreme mentally ill behavior in an easy way for everyone to see.

You suck at deduction, Crayola.

[vy65]

And here we are again with the same ignorance to mutual exclusivity. Similar to how trolling does not preclude mental illness, trolling does not preclude demonstrating extreme mentally ill behavior in an easy way for everyone to see.

You suck at deduction, Crayola.

spurraider21 'grats bro

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Curious what you are feeling good about?

The way I see it either this account is part of the troll swarm. Lord knows you like to share that same brain, or. . .

you didn't know :lol

[Tyronn Lue]

Your platform of bluster betrays a thirst for crayon status
Fat crayons, living large.

[spurraider21]

And here we are again with the same ignorance to mutual exclusivity. Similar to how trolling does not preclude mental illness, trolling does not preclude demonstrating extreme mentally ill behavior in an easy way for everyone to see.

You suck at deduction, Crayola.
i didnt call you mentally ill. i said you were boring.

its not even deduction you suck at, its reading comprehension

[FuzzyLumpkins]

i didnt call you mentally ill. i said you were boring.

its not even deduction you suck at, its reading comprehension

love the desperation to get me back. that tells me I got my message through.

Only issue for you is that a comparison does not imply the stupidity you are insisting. Still failing at mutual exclusivity, dim.

/dogrefusestolookatgerbil.gif

:lol

[spurraider21]

love the desperation to get me back. that tells me I got my message through.

Only issue for you is that a comparison does not imply the stupidity you are insisting. Still failing at mutual exclusivity, dim.

/dogrefusestolookatgerbil.gif

:lol
ok

[FuzzyLumpkins]

ok

Cool then you understand that you are either part of the swarm or a useful idiot.

[widowmaker]

I believe the rockets are going to represent the west this year in the finals and they will take whoever they face to 7 games and lose by a buzzer beater.

[Tyronn Lue]

I believe the rockets are going to represent the west this year in the finals and they will take whoever they face to 7 games and lose by a buzzer beater.
:lmao

[ismael-robert]

I believe the rockets are going to represent the west this year in the finals and they will take whoever they face to 7 games and lose by a buzzer beater.

Did u forget blue font? They're not even making the playoffs. Probably shouldn't post again

[widowmaker]

Did u forget blue font? They're not even making the playoffs. Probably shouldn't post again



I don’t need to blue font shit and i can post whatever the fuck i want when i want.

[ismael-robert]

I don’t need to blue font shit and i can post whatever the fuck i want when i want.

Not when it makes everyone dumber reading it

[widowmaker]

Not when it makes everyone dumber reading it


You are dumb no matter what so what difference does it make?

[ismael-robert]

At least with blue font u could've saved some face

[widowmaker]

At least with blue font u could've saved some face


Take that blue font and shove it all the way up your ass twice.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Take that blue font and shove it all the way up your ass twice.

:lol you seem to be having a joyful day.

[widowmaker]

:lol you seem to be having a joyful day.

Im doing great and I hope you are doing great too

[ismael-robert]

You mean how u just did with ur Rockets prediction...how many degrees u got

[widowmaker]

You mean how u just did with ur Rockets prediction...how many degrees u got

Do you believe everything you read and every post someone makes online?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Do you believe everything you read and every post someone makes online?

nihilist dimwittery. my fave.

[widowmaker]

nihilist dimwittery. my fave.


Dudes a dumb dumb goes poking around trying to tell people what to do like if hes somebody.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Dudes a dumb dumb goes poking around trying to tell people what to do like if hes somebody.

you can be stupid. I don't say you cannot do that. you seem upset. :lol

[widowmaker]

you can be stupid. I don't say you cannot do that. you seem upset. :lol


Sounds like you are stupid and for that matter you can also just like that other bitch you can go fuck yourself faggit.

[widowmaker]

you can be stupid. I don't say you cannot do that. you seem upset. :lol


Ill be here all day let me know when.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ill be here all day let me know when.

Cool. I will let you stew for a bit then and come back later. And yes you do not need to tell me that 'winning' is very important to you.

[widowmaker]

Cool. I will let you stew for a bit then and come back later. And yes you do not need to tell me that 'winning' is very important to you.

Stew? Lmao what a buffoon lmao!!

[ismael-robert]

Before making comments about intelligence u should actually ensure u can score higher than that person on any aptitude test or that you have more education...didn't u mention being in jail recently, as an adult, that's definition of dumb, don't know when to grow up

[widowmaker]

Before you go on and on learn how to shut the fuck up and mind your own business.

[JPB]

Go find an hotel room guys.

[widowmaker]

Go find an hotel room guys.


Speaking of minding your own business lmao!!