Great players that dropped hard.......

[lebomb]

Like off of the map after being Allstar caliber. Two that come to mind for me......... Steve Francis and Victor Oladipo. These dudes went from stars to damn near not even playing a couple of years later. I realize injuries can derail a player, but some come right back to stardom. Others just disappear. :(

[MultiTroll]

Lot of chit going on off the court too.

[MultiTroll]

Shaun Kemp.
Would have continued to be a yearly All Pro candidate.

Still wish the Celtics would have traded one of the Big 3 after Lenny Bias got murdered by Stern instead of disintegrating into irrelevance. 1988 - was just too painful to watch.

[lefty]

Kemp before the fatness

Pre-injury Penny

Pre-injury Brandon Roy

[lebomb]

Ben Simmons fell pretty damn hard also. Dude used to be pretty good. Now? :depressed

[lefty]

Ben Simmons fell pretty damn hard also. Dude used to be pretty good. Now? :depressed
If only that MF'er could shoot...he makes Magic Johnson look like Steph Curry

Great passer , especially on the break, good defender, good post up game

Just leave him open and he becomes useless :lol

[ambchang]

Vin Baker
Michael Redd
Grant hill
Roy hibbert
Amare stoudemire
Andre Drummond

[lefty]

Vin Baker
Michael Redd
Grant hill
Roy hibbert
Amare stoudemire
Andre Drummond
Hibbert is a victim of the evolution of the game tbh

[Monostradamus]

We’ll be adding Wemby to this list in 2030. Hopefully yall get a ring before then. I’m rooting for you.

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Olajuwan.

[Tyronn Lue]

The term "great" is being misused here.

[lefty]

The term "great" is being misused here.
WE DONE WITH THE 90s!

[MultiTroll]

We’ll be adding Wemby to this list in 2030. Hopefully yall get a ring before then. I’m rooting for you.
Pretty sure after Luka becomes a Spur and Pop has a fatal accident in his wine room the path to another Spurs Chip will be set.

Then Luka can go off to donut bliss in the 2030s.

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Pretty sure after Luka becomes a Spur and Pop has a fatal accident in his wine room the path to another Spurs Chip will be set.

Then Luka can go off to donut bliss in the 2030s.

Get offin' the fuckin' pot.

[FrostKing]

Vin Baker
Michael Redd
Grant hill
Roy hibbert
Amare stoudemire
Andre Drummond
Grant Hill is brutal. My first favorite player I watched from beginning to fin.

Top defender on Contender playing 80 games a season at age 36-38

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/PFTNG5Q/joes090315-h.jpg

[FrostKing]

Steve Francis opening is a great one. I was deep into late 90s+ ACC. Stevie a transfer put Maryland back on the map. Sweaty Gary Williams. First guy I saw flying outta the dome on dunks. A handful of years later Maryland closed the deal winning the crown.

That was around the time of Iverson & Marbury. The game was so "Hero Ball" centered that these 'ballers' were the next best thing to Jordan/Jazz/Spurs.

Tangent - that's why when I think of the Spurs Dynasty it's Manu before Tony. But Parker was the Spurs biggest unlikely piece.

[lefty]

- that's why when I think of the Spurs Dynasty it's Manu before Tony. .
Well duh

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Steve Francis opening is a great one. I was deep into late 90s+ ACC. Stevie a transfer put Maryland back on the map. Sweaty Gary Williams. First guy I saw flying outta the dome on dunks. A handful of years later Maryland closed the deal winning the crown.

That was around the time of Iverson & Marbury. The game was so "Hero Ball" centered that these 'ballers' were the next best thing to Jordan/Jazz/Spurs.

Tangent - that's why when I think of the Spurs Dynasty it's Manu before Tony. But Parker was the Spurs biggest unlikely piece.

Yep, he was a legitimate killer in every sense of the imagination brought to life who wielded his weapons with silencer locked for full effect.

[DD]

I thought Jamal Mashburn would be a killer as a pro.

[DD]

One of the best college ballers who was such a disappointment as a pro was Derrick Coleman. Dude was mega talented and could’ve been a star

[DD]

All the great thuggin’ and buggin’ boons of the league fell off pretty hard with this tidal wave of Euro talent. Not only are they better than their melanated counterparts, but they are saving the league by actually playing in most of their games.

[lefty]

One of the best college ballers who was such a disappointment as a pro was Derrick Coleman. Dude was mega talented and could’ve been a star
Was going to mention him
Could play inside, outside, strong; Barkley said that if DC cared a little more he could be the best player in the League ; DC's rebuttal : "lol look who's talking"
what a dumbass

[lefty]

All the great thuggin’ and buggin’ boons of the league fell off pretty hard with this tidal wave of Euro talent. Not only are they better than their melanated counterparts, but they are saving the league by actually playing in most of their games.
And also by playing team basketball

[Brazil]

D. Rose

[Mark Celibate]

Surprise no mention of Josh Howard. Was an All Star in 2006-07, then basically out of the league just a few years later. Significant in the fact that it was only his fourth season, first all star game, and only 26. As someone who actually watched and followed the team pretty regularly back then, even I can't remember what happened to him after the 08-09 season :lol

[baseline bum]

I thought Jamal Mashburn would be a killer as a pro.

Javaris Crittenton too

[Leetonidas]

Not exactly a great player but TJ Warren turned into prime Jordan in the bubble and was never heard from again after that

[TD 21]

Not exactly a great player but TJ Warren turned into prime Jordan in the bubble and was never heard from again after that

Injuries derailed his career.

[lefty]

Roy Tarpley
Ralph Sampson

Those 80s Mavs and Rockets teams were the only legit threats to the Showtime Lakers in the WC but that didn't last long

Tarpley had a second chance when he came back , I think it was in the mid 90s and he actually played well but he blew it, another ban

[ambchang]

Roy Tarpley
Ralph Sampson

Those 80s Mavs and Rockets teams were the only legit threats to the Showtime Lakers in the WC but that didn't last long

Tarpley hada second chance when he came back , I think it was in the mid 90s and he actually played well but he blew it, another ban

The 80s. Aka the decade where magic partied so hard he got hiv but somehow never touched any drugs.

[lefty]

The 80s. Aka the decade where magic partied so hard he got hiv but somehow never touched any drugs.
yep
And the Lakers had a cocaine filled nightclub in the Forum , but they didn't do drugs apparently :lol

[baseline bum]

yep
And the Lakers had a cocaine filled nightclub in the Forum , but they didn't do drugs apparently :lol

Oh man you gotta read about Landsberger in Pearlman's Showtime book :lol

[lefty]

Oh man you gotta read about Landsberger in Pearlman's Showtime book :lol

yeah he was something

Speaking of him, last year I posted a tweet making fun of the Lakers and the actor who played him in Winning Time liked it for some reason

[baseline bum]

yeah he was something

Speaking of him, last year I posted a tweet making fun of the Lakers and the actor who played him in Winning Time liked it for some reason

He was super open with his wife and she didn't give a shit if he banged other women, but he went and told her Kareem, Cooper, and Worthy had side bitches and their wives were friends with Landsberger's wife so she told them. Got him basically kicked off the team after the 83 Finals. :lol

[Spurminator]

Tyreke Evans averaged 20-5-5 his rookie year and looked like a sure thing.

Amare Stoudemire fell off the map after 2011.

Every once in a while I notice Blake Griffin is still playing and it blows my mind.

[Spurminator]

He was super open with his wife and she didn't give a shit if he banged other women

Oh that reminds me, Andrei Kirilenko.

[lefty]

He was super open with his wife and she didn't give a shit if he banged other women, but he went and told her Kareem, Cooper, and Worthy had side bitches and their wives were friends with Landsberger's wife so she told them. Got him basically kicked off the team after the 83 Finals. :lol
Snitching is a Lakers tradition :lol

[lefty]

Tyreke Evans averaged 20-5-5 his rookie year and looked like a sure thing.
- Yep, forgot about him

- Dejuan Wagner also looked promising his rookie year then disappeared

- Jamaal Tinsley had a decent rookie season, he even had a triple double that season

[ambchang]

Jennings scored 55 in his first game or something like that. Then disappeared.

[Thread]

The 80s. Aka the decade where magic partied so hard he got hiv but somehow never touched any drugs.

But without him we'd still be hiding under the furniture. His gross failure(s) in '83 & '84 to the Celtics did not crush him as they'd crushed West, Baylor, me, et al. Instead of crawling away like the Celtics were bent on making him do///they knew he was "dangerous" and tried desperately to get him to fold like the other Lakers had---Magic instead did what Jimmy Dean's mighty song directed him to do...Over the summer of '84 he grabbed the jacks & timbers and started back down. After a 100-game grailed quest culminated on 9 June 1985 in Boston we'd broken thru. We've never looked back.

He never threw it in their face, but he was no country preacher. That was hi-tech wet work. He knew.

[Thread]

Snitching is a Lakers tradition :lol

You got Parker ratting as well.

[ambchang]

But without him we'd still be hiding under the furniture. His gross failure(s) in '83 & '84 to the Celtics did not crush him as they'd crushed West, Baylor, me, et al. Instead of crawling away like the Celtics were bent on making him do///they knew he was "dangerous" and tried desperately to get him to fold like the other Lakers had---Magic instead did what Jimmy Dean's mighty song directed him to do...Over the summer of '84 he grabbed the jacks & timbers and started back down. After a 100-game grailed quest culminated on 9 June 1985 in Boston we'd broken thru. We've never looked back.

He never threw it in their face, but he was no country preacher. That was hi-tech wet work. He knew.

Exactly. Which is why he was never suspended by the league while the entire Houston backcourt and the Mavs got the treatment. Can’t make that shit up.

[lefty]

Jennings scored 55 in his first game or something like that. Then disappeared.

I remembered when that happened, everybody here lost it when I said he was a stat padder

[Thread]

Exactly. Which is why he was never suspended by the league while the entire Houston backcourt and the Mavs got the treatment. Can’t make that shit up.

That's conjecture.

[ambchang]

That's conjecture.

Oh yeah. But if the opposite happened you’d be swearing up and down the hallway like the suns won a title.

[Thread]

Oh yeah. But (if) the opposite happened you’d be swearing up and down the hallway like the suns won a title.

That (if) is a cruel master, amb. Him slapin' that Miami hardwood a ready example.

[lefty]

You got Parker ratting as well.
That POS was Lakers spy, disrupted us on purpose in 2002, 2004 and 2008

[ambchang]

That (if) is a cruel master, amb. Him slapin' that Miami hardwood a ready example.

You only say this because the lakers are always on the good end.

[Thread]

You only say this because the lakers are always on the good end.

You don't think '83 & '84 were catastrophic? If he taps out were done, done-done. I didn't think he had it in him to be the one to lead us from the darkness and into light forever more. The Celtics had put him on-the-spot to be destroyed. They knew he COULD be the one, but if they stomped the life out of him they'd be able to rule the NBA another 5-10 years and effectively end us and him for good.

The story he tells about (it) is bullshit. What he had to do---what he did is buried deep in his heart and soul and he will not share. That's fine. I was withered after '84. He brought me back to the fore and I ain't never forgettin' that. Ever. It's my religion.

[ambchang]

You don't think '83 & '84 were catastrophic? If he taps out were done, done-done. I didn't think he had it in him to be the one to lead us from the darkness and into light forever more. The Celtics had put him on-the-spot to be destroyed. They knew he COULD be the one, but if they stomped the life out of him they'd be able to rule the NBA another 5-10 years and effectively end us and him for good.

The story he tells about (it) is bullshit. What he had to do---what he did is buried deep in his heart and soul and he will not share. That's fine. I was withered after '84. He brought me back to the fore and I ain't never forgettin' that. Ever. It's my religion.

They lost despite the league wanting them to win. How embarrassing.

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They lost despite the league wanting them to win. How embarrassing.

You're in a shit mood again. I hate when you're like this!

[ambchang]

You're in a shit mood again. I hate when you're like this!

Actually pretty good mood. Just painted you in your corner. lol

Don’t take it seriously cubby, we all know where the lakers sit with the league, there’s an insane amount of “coincidental occurrences” that conveniently fell in the lakers over the years, it’s not even funny. This is obvious stuff. Sure it’s not the wwe but the lakers have a huge leg up since the 80s.

[Thread]

Actually pretty good mood. Just painted you in your corner. lol

Don’t take it seriously cubby, we all know where the lakers sit with the league, there’s an insane amount of “coincidental occurrences” that conveniently fell in the lakers over the years, it’s not even funny. This is obvious stuff. Sure it’s not the wwe but the lakers have a huge leg up since the 80s.


'83/'84 is "coincidental occurrences?"

[ambchang]

'83/'84 is "coincidental occurrences?"
They just suck so bad there nothing the league can do. It’s it’s 50/50 you a bet the lakers come out on top everytime.

[FrostKing]

Starbury