Grades: Spurs vs. Grizzlies - Mar. 22, 2024

[timvp]

https://www.spurstalk.com/2024-spurs-grizzlies-grades-70/

[Pauleta14]

Thx Timvp!

I agree with ur grades overall eventho I think you're being too nice with Tre or you might have very low expectations.

He shouldn't be an NBA starter

[Mugen]

It's actually incredible to see an NBA team not be able to make 3s nor defend them in 2024. Such a perfect microcosm of how the game has passed this organization by in the last decade tbh.

[Mugen]

Mamu has done nothing but bring energy and competence in the very limited minutes he has this season.

He's been a good soldier that has done nothing but produce when called upon.

And hes been glued to the bench all year long either due to coaching malice or coaching malpractice (probably a bit of both). Hope he finds rotation minutes next season even if it's what he should have had this year, spot minutes to infuse energy.

[jermaine]

Mamu has done nothing but bring energy and competence in the very limited minutes he has this season.

He's been a good soldier that has done nothing but produce when called upon.

And hes been glued to the bench all year long either due to coaching malice or coaching malpractice (probably a bit of both). Hope he finds rotation minutes next season even if it's what he should have had this year, spot minutes to infuse energy.

I'd love to see him an Barlow get over Collins and Sochan.

[jermaine]

This team is soooo hard to watch. Every position is a difficult shot an no one is a bucket get'er. Not one deadly 3pt shooter.. Every time I see Sochan dribble the ball, im like tragic Johnson alert. He should never be a scoring option outside of put backs, open 3s, or cutting to the basketball. Why isn't Barlow playing at all!?!

[KobesAchilles]

I don’t see how Sochan doesn’t get an A. His shooting is fine. But his defense and nervy he brings to the team is unparalleled. He also has that jackass mentality that gets under players skin and shit down jjj last night. Lastly he made the play that almost won them the game last night with that big time steal.

[LeBowen]

Resident sniffers awfully quiet and nowhere to be seen.

Branham had some people fooled with a few hot shooting nights and then he reverted back to being an unplayable scrub.
He played 104 minutes 26 seconds over the past 6 games.
In those 104 minutes and 26 seconds he took 42 shots. Made 12. Good for 28% FG.
Out of those 42, 19 were 3pt shots. Made 1. He's shooting 5% from three, ffs.
And he's one of the worst, if not the worst defender in the league.

Wesley is a point guard who's got worse handles than most wings in the league and has no jumpshot whatsoever.
He's shown some good defensive instincts, but he constantly gets cooked, making him even more useless than Branham.

Sochan is somehow often the second option and he's another player with no jumpshot whatsoever. Or handles. Or playmaking vision.
And he's also not a good defender, despite his Rodman cosplay.

Those are our three 2022 draft picks.
2021 pick is a sex offender, which was actually good for PATFO because they don't have to to take the heat of drafting another useless scrub.
Four first round picks wasted.

I've seen every game from both last and this season, but this one was the breaking point for me.
Devin and Tre can stay, everyone else needs to go. No exceptions.
They've had two seasons to develop into something that resembles actual NBA players and they're just getting worse.
When is someone going to take some responsibility?

We're losing to teams that trot out a bunch of random G-leaguers that won't be on the roster when they're fully healthy and somehow not only lose, but get outplayed and outcoached by the most basic, fundamental, basketball.
Does a single journalist who's going to ask serious questions follow this franchise? Or are we going to be held hostages by PATFO for another decade?

[onechance87]

Resident sniffers awfully quiet and nowhere to be seen.

Branham had some people fooled with a few hot shooting nights and then he reverted back to being an unplayable scrub.
He played 104 minutes 26 seconds over the past 6 games.
In those 104 minutes and 26 seconds he took 42 shots. Made 12. Good for 28% FG.
Out of those 42, 19 were 3pt shots. Made 1. He's shooting 5% from three, ffs.
And he's one of the worst, if not the worst defender in the league.

Wesley is a point guard who's got worse handles than most wings in the league and has no jumpshot whatsoever.
He's shown some good defensive instincts, but he constantly gets cooked, making him even more useless than Branham.

Sochan is somehow often the second option and he's another player with no jumpshot whatsoever. Or handles. Or playmaking vision.
And he's also not a good defender, despite his Rodman cosplay.

Those are our three 2022 draft picks.
2021 pick is a sex offender, which was actually good for PATFO because they don't have to to take the heat of drafting another useless scrub.
Four first round picks wasted.

I've seen every game from both last and this season, but this one was the breaking point for me.
Devin and Tre can stay, everyone else needs to go. No exceptions.
They've had two seasons to develop into something that resembles actual NBA players and they're just getting worse.
When is someone going to take some responsibility?

We're losing to teams that trot out a bunch of random G-leaguers that won't be on the roster when they're fully healthy and somehow not only lose, but get outplayed and outcoached by the most basic, fundamental, basketball.
Does a single journalist who's going to ask serious questions follow this franchise? Or are we going to be held hostages by PATFO for another decade?

agreed....This team is terrible.Nothing exciting to carry on next season to be happy about with this current squad.Half this team
should be gone this offseason.

[Knoxxx]

I'm never going to give Wemby an A when he has 7 turnovers. That has been a problem for him all season. I don't think he blocked a shot in the first half either. Then 6 of 10 on FTs, 3-12 on 3s, that's weak.

We shoot 7 for 38 on 3s and there is no point looking anywhere else for the cause of the loss. Memphis was 12 of 34 on 3s, 35%. We did not even need to shoot 35% from 3 to make 5 more 3s and win this game with ease. So this reminds us why most people want to dispose of the majority of our roster, which is understandable.

A D for Pop may be too generous, Sochan comes out playing great, then Pop benches him for something like 12 minutes when he subs him out. Not sure that would have made a difference, but it was noticeable to me. Also, we are playing the same way we played at the beginning of the season, trying to outshoot teams from 3-point range and failing miserably. Now, teams are wise to give us wide open 3s to anyone our team not named Vassell, which is pretty sad. So, there may not be a fix for that other than trying to drive more which is hard to do when the other team has 3-4 defenders in the paint.

Osman has been mostly terrible and he's got too much experience to be that up and down and stick around on our roster. Champagnie has been quietly playing a bit better, though as noted not really part of the offense expect perhaps leading the league in missed dunks. As one of our better 3 PT shooters, why we don't get him more shots is puzzling.

Circling back to Pop, bad job this game and enough to warrant an F. Even a novice viewer like me and the goofballs on the score chat noted the obvious, that Wemby should have been guarding Jackson Jr on the last play.

[Spurs Homer]

You are down by a point and have the last play....

you have the only player in the nba who could catch a pass thrown 13-14 feet high...

you double-screen for him to get a 14 ft high pass in the lane and instruct this unicorn to just catch the ball and hold it over his head

if he is not fouled immediately for two free throws to win the game - you tell him to take a turnaround jumper in the lane

either you get 2 ft's or a jump shot from 10 feet and under -

why is this hard?

[poopbox]

It's actually incredible to see an NBA team not be able to make 3s nor defend them in 2024. Such a perfect microcosm of how the game has passed this organization by in the last decade tbh.

This is like the 4th straight year of this team not being able to make or defend 3's. Me thinks it's because the coaching is bad. Very very bad.

[Knoxxx]

You are down by a point and have the last play....

you have the only player in the nba who could catch a pass thrown 13-14 feet high...

you double-screen for him to get a 14 ft high pass in the lane and instruct this unicorn to just catch the ball and hold it over his head

if he is not fouled immediately for two free throws to win the game - you tell him to take a turnaround jumper in the lane

either you get 2 ft's or a jump shot from 10 feet and under -

why is this hard?

Because we don't have any good passers on the team when it comes to throwing lobs.

[Tyronn Lue]

NBA guards need to be able to shoot. This seems like a fundamental prerequisite to even being in the NBA if your defense is less than stellar.

I don't know that Pop is the guy for this level of development vs results. He's been keen on encouraging other coaches to grin and bear it and lean in on the teaching aspect during tough seasons, but he's not faced many tough seasons. If Pop was going to be kept, it seems that the front office is planning to win, not just field a team. They could do that with any coach.

[Spurs Homer]

Because we don't have any good passers on the team when it comes to throwing lobs.


so a whole nba season in - and this has not been a priority at practice all year?

no one is practicing lobs when this is their major advantage?

and people here scoff at obtaining trae young?

[Bruno]

A stat that tells a lot about Spurs:

There are this year 60 NBA trios with a +/- per 48 minutes above +10 (minutes played over 500 minutes):
- 59 of these trios belong to winning teams.
- 1 of these trios belong to a losing team. That's Tre Jones + Vassell + Wembanyama with a +/- of +11.8 per 48 minutes over 752 minutes.

https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/traditional?CF=MIN*GE*500&GroupQuantity=3&PerMode=Per48&TeamID=0&dir=D&slug=traditional&sort=PLUS_MINUS

No explanations needed...

[Maddog]

A stat that tells a lot about Spurs:

There are this year 60 NBA trios with a +/- per 48 minutes above +10 (minutes played over 500 minutes):
- 59 of these trios belong to winning teams.
- 1 of these trios belong to a losing team. That's Tre Jones + Vassell + Wembanyama with a +/- of +11.8 per 48 minutes over 752 minutes.

https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/traditional?CF=MIN*GE*500&GroupQuantity=3&PerMode=Per48&TeamID=0&dir=D&slug=traditional&sort=PLUS_MINUS

No explanations needed...


That's really interesting.

The Spurs don't have another trio. Good teams have more trios

Something to build on.

Tre's numbers post as a starter are really interesting.
29.8 minutes, 11.5, 3.9, 7.1 over 40% from three (38-91)

[onechance87]

A stat that tells a lot about Spurs:

There are this year 60 NBA trios with a +/- per 48 minutes above +10 (minutes played over 500 minutes):
- 59 of these trios belong to winning teams.
- 1 of these trios belong to a losing team. That's Tre Jones + Vassell + Wembanyama with a +/- of +11.8 per 48 minutes over 752 minutes.

https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/traditional?CF=MIN*GE*500&GroupQuantity=3&PerMode=Per48&TeamID=0&dir=D&slug=traditional&sort=PLUS_MINUS

No explanations needed...

Yup the majority of this roster should gone this offseason.Clean house asap.

[Knoxxx]

That's really interesting.

The Spurs don't have another trio. Good teams have more trios

Something to build on.

Tre's numbers post as a starter are really interesting.
29.8 minutes, 11.5, 3.9, 7.1 over 40% from three (38-91)

Jones is practically a carbon copy of his older brother, who is a serviceable, if unspectacular, NBA point guard. The idea of signing his older brother, for more money, makes little sense. By the way, Tre has the best true shooting percent on the team at 60.3%, on the strength of his 51% FG shooting and 88% FT shooting. Despite 34% 3 PT shooting, which is also an indicator he can perhaps work his way up closer to the 41% that his brother shoots from 3.

Then if he could learn to throw lobs, we'd be good to go. And of course if he could grow 3 inches, to be less of a defensive liability.

[John B]

Awful loss on a must win game against scrubs. Terrible from Wemby with 7 TO’s to Pop’s last defensive stance and play. Moving on…

[Knoxxx]

Awful loss on a must win game against scrubs. Terrible from Wemby with 7 TO’s to Pop’s last defensive stance and play. Moving on…

Nice summary! Often we just see the 30-15 game from Wemby when we overlook the 7 turnovers. I've about had it with Wemby passing the ball OUT of the lane already, also. Come on dude, when you are in the lane with the ball, SHOOT IT!!! Don't throw it out to Branham or Sochan for a 3 pointer. :downspin:

The good news is the fix is easy, surround Wemby with better outside shooters.

[John B]

Nice summary! Often we just see the 30-15 game from Wemby when we overlook the 7 turnovers. I've about had it with Wemby passing the ball OUT of the lane already, also. Come on dude, when you are in the lane with the ball, SHOOT IT!!! Don't throw it out to Branham or Sochan for a 3 pointer. :downspin:

The good news is the fix is easy, surround Wemby with better outside shooters.

Spurs hit rock-bottom. It SHOULD only gets better after this season. FATFO have no excuses not to make major moves and that’s all I’m waiting for…

[Knoxxx]

Spurs hit rock-bottom. It SHOULD only gets better after this season. FATFO have no excuses not to make major moves and that’s all I’m waiting for…

It's pretty simple, get people who can throw lobs and accurate entry passes to Wemby. Get even average 3 PT shooters. Then we will be killing fools. I would also like to see a better enforcer next to Wemby, a strong rebounding PF/C that can also rim protect.

[TekXX]

I don’t see how Sochan doesn’t get an A. His shooting is fine. But his defense and nervy he brings to the team is unparalleled. He also has that jackass mentality that gets under players skin and shit down jjj last night. Lastly he made the play that almost won them the game last night with that big time steal.

I guess he gets credit for catching it but that ball was thrown right to him.

[JPB]

It's actually incredible to see an NBA team not be able to make 3s nor defend them in 2024. Such a perfect microcosm of how the game has passed this organization by in the last decade tbh.

This.

Looks like Pop has no idea how to defend in the NBA anymore.

[z0sa]

When I see Wemby with 30/15/5+ blocks but also 7 turnovers, I see a rookie who just doesn't have the experience or legs to do more than he's doing. He's trying to get his teammates rolling but time and again either he's just clearly gassed from carrying so hard, or he's being put into double and triple team situations where he genuinely doesn't have experience and neither do his teammates.

There MUST be a pressure relief of some sort both when Wemby needs a possession or two off, and when he's not on the floor. Vassell just so rarely fills that role, it's clear to me we need a real #2 option and he's NOT on the roster right now. Would absolutely love to be wrong, as always about certain negative conclusions/facts ...

[Pauleta14]

Nice summary! Often we just see the 30-15 game from Wemby when we overlook the 7 turnovers. I've about had it with Wemby passing the ball OUT of the lane already, also. Come on dude, when you are in the lane with the ball, SHOOT IT!!! Don't throw it out to Branham or Sochan for a 3 pointer. :downspin:

The good news is the fix is easy, surround Wemby with better outside shooters.

“nice summary” :lol

All your posts seem to show you’ve “had enough” of Wemby for a while :lol :lol ("he didn't even had a block in 1st half"!! shame on him tbh...)

Im fine with those TOs, there’re not even top10 of the issues than need to be fixed. It’ll happen naturally with better teammates and knowledge/comfort (1 was goal tending for ex) of the rules.

Btw of your post criticising him mentioned he finished with +15…

[baseline bum]

This team is soooo hard to watch. Every position is a difficult shot an no one is a bucket get'er. Not one deadly 3pt shooter.. Every time I see Sochan dribble the ball, im like tragic Johnson alert. He should never be a scoring option outside of put backs, open 3s, or cutting to the basketball. Why isn't Barlow playing at all!?!

I hate seeing Victor make these incredible passes in the lane that other PFs would kill to get only for Sochan to blow the layup or get his shit rejected or fumble the ball out of bounds or dribble it off his foot. I don't want Victor to stop making these plays since hopefully in the next year or two they'll have a competent PF who can finish those plays off but super frustrating to watch right now, like if Manu had been playing throwing highlight passes to Olowokandi and Bogans instead of Tim and Tony.

[weeks]

I hate seeing Victor make these incredible passes in the lane that other PFs would kill to get only for Sochan to blow the layup or get his shit rejected or fumble the ball out of bounds or dribble it off his foot. I don't want Victor to stop making these plays since hopefully in the next year or two they'll have a competent PF who can finish those plays off but super frustrating to watch right now, like if Manu had been playing throwing highlight passes to Olowokandi and Bogans instead of Tim and Tony.
Manu was something else, he could spin gold out of straw
I remember him making Blair look like an NBA-caliber big man

[Knoxxx]

“nice summary” :lol

All your posts seem to show you’ve “had enough” of Wemby for a while :lol :lol ("he didn't even had a block in 1st half"!! shame on him tbh...)

Im fine with those TOs, there’re not even top10 of the issues than need to be fixed. It’ll happen naturally with better teammates and knowledge/comfort (1 was goal tending for ex) of the rules.

Btw of your post criticising him mentioned he finished with +15…

I wasn't speaking towards whether I think Wemby will improve, I was speaking to the fact that 7 TURNOVERS SUCKS!!! (and does not warrant an A grade). And I am not grading Wemby on the same scale as the others, he clearly has way more natural ability than anyone on the team. That also brings with it accountability to play more efficiently. To me it is important that Wemby be judged harshly, as his play will decide whether we win a game more often than not. Fortunately though, I think he tends to be his own worst critic, but I am calling it like I see it here. How would Wemby improve, if he and everyone else thought he was perfect and it was sacrilegious to criticize him? It's obvious he is still screwing up a lot more than I'd like to see, but he's also amazing to watch. It's not that I don't appreciate Wemby or understand his awesomeness, it's that I expect everyone to be accountable and not keeping making the same dumb ass mistakes over and over, Wemby being no exception.

[Knoxxx]

When I see Wemby with 30/15/5+ blocks but also 7 turnovers, I see a rookie who just doesn't have the experience or legs to do more than he's doing. He's trying to get his teammates rolling but time and again either he's just clearly gassed from carrying so hard, or he's being put into double and triple team situations where he genuinely doesn't have experience and neither do his teammates.

There MUST be a pressure relief of some sort both when Wemby needs a possession or two off, and when he's not on the floor. Vassell just so rarely fills that role, it's clear to me we need a real #2 option and he's NOT on the roster right now. Would absolutely love to be wrong, as always about certain negative conclusions/facts ...

Nice post. See, this poster can observe the same 7 turnover problem, yet not go OMG you are calling Wemby out shame on you! :spin

[Dex]

Awful loss on a must win game against scrubs. Terrible from Wemby with 7 TO’s to Pop’s last defensive stance and play. Moving on…

The loss is embarrassing, but there is no such thing as a "must win" game this season. The goal now is the best draft pick possible in a shitty draft.

Winning is good for morale. Losing when you are expected to win is a good reality check, because frankly the players just didn't show up to play. I'm tired of people acting like everything is always Pop's fault when it's the guys on the floor playing like their head is up their ass.

[Pauleta14]

I wasn't speaking towards whether I think Wemby will improve, I was speaking to the fact that 7 TURNOVERS SUCKS!!! (and does not warrant an A grade). And I am not grading Wemby on the same scale as the others, he clearly has way more natural ability than anyone on the team. That also brings with it accountability to play more efficiently. To me it is important that Wemby be judged harshly, as his play will decide whether we win a game more often than not. Fortunately though, I think he tends to be his own worst critic, but I am calling it like I see it here. How would Wemby improve, if he and everyone else thought he was perfect and it was sacrilegious to criticize him? It's obvious he is still screwing up a lot more than I'd like to see, but he's also amazing to watch. It's not that I don't appreciate Wemby or understand his awesomeness, it's that I expect everyone to be accountable and not keeping making the same dumb ass mistakes over and over, Wemby being no exception.

I get what ur saying but again those TOs aren’t that big of a deal really. If you look in detail not just raw stat, maybe 3 were bad, the rest was goal tending and miscommunication that will naturally get better with him getting used to the rule and having better talent and BBIQ around.

Regarding the grade that u find too generous, offense is 50% of it and he ends up with 31pts and could’ve had more than his 5ast had his teammates finish better.

Add the +15 when the rest in négative or low single digit + it as well as his defensive impact…

Only 2 rookies had his stat line (Griffin the other one)

It wasn’t an A+ or A but it was still a very good game for a rookie

[Knoxxx]

The loss is embarrassing, but there is no such thing as a "must win" game this season. The goal now is the best draft pick possible in a shitty draft.

Winning is good for morale. Losing when you are expected to win is a good reality check, because frankly the players just didn't show up to play. I'm tired of people acting like everything is always Pop's fault when it's the guys on the floor playing like their head is up their ass.

I'm going to take your post as a nice segue to repeat that we shot BLEEPING 7 for 38 on 3s for this game. These are mostly open shots, too. There is no point to doing much more analysis, when you perform some simple math on that and see that any NBA team (other than the Spurs) would have score at least 15 more points than we did. Even a 15-point win over MEM is probably not that great, but certainly beats having such an ugly L on our foreheads.

Except for the fact that we can use every L we can get, right now. Our best friends at the moment are ping pong balls.

[Pauleta14]

Nice post. See, this poster can observe the same 7 turnover problem, yet not go OMG you are calling Wemby out shame on you! :spin


He made the same points I made

Those TO are almost logical and not a source of concern

[The Truth #6]

From what I saw, Victor had way more than three blocks in this game, I was talking to a person sitting next to me and we thought there was at least six or seven but maybe we're crazy. Also, there was an amazing but small play that occurred that to me showed how strong of a defensive presence victor is. On the same possession two different players started driving towards the paint towards Victor and then just turned around, like nope not going in there. It was something I'd never seen before, which is a cliche people say when you go to see him play in person, but for me it was true.

[Knoxxx]

He made the same points I made

Those TO are almost logical and not a source of concern

Except that IS stupid, for him not to shoot from the paint but rather dish to "wide open" brick layers instead.

Now, I will admit that for each of his 7 turnovers, I don't recall exactly which dumb mistake he was repeating. Was it the dribbling in traffic, or trying too fancy of a pass? Not sure, but I'm ready to see an end to moronic mistakes, since we have been treated to a lifetime of those in one season. I don't care who is making the moronic mistakes, but 7 turnovers is far too many of them. And he has high usage, is tired, blah blah but in the end those are all just excuses.

Like I said, the positive when Wemby screws up is he is less likely to blame the team or city or whatever. And those ping pong balls, keep them coming! So while I gripe about it from the viewpoint of a fan who just wanted to see a win, the reality is I am not concerned either, consider it just my coping mechanism.

[Knoxxx]

From what I saw, Victor had way more than three blocks in this game, I was talking to a person sitting next to me and we thought there was at least six or seven but maybe we're crazy. Also, there was an amazing but small play that occurred that to me showed how strong of a defensive presence victor is. On the same possession two different players started driving towards the paint towards Victor and then just turned around, like nope not going in there. It was something I'd never seen before, which is a cliche people say when you go to see him play in person, but for me it was true.

I always feel like Wemby gets shorted blocks, but I think sometimes what happens is he alters the shot so much it looks so ugly as if it must have been blocked when it was not. For example, when they called Wemby for that foul against Gafford and Spurs challenged turns out he never touched him. Gafford even sold it like he was fouled, when what really happened was he tried to wiggle an ugly shot around Wemby who was just standing there and missed.

On a somewhat related topic, when did they get so picky about offensive goal tending? I understand that the rule was the ball has to be completely outside the cylinder, but in practice if the ball was still slightly in the cylinder but seemed to clearly be coming out, they would not call those in the past. Now we have the whistle police, where were they when Ibaka constantly goal tended on TP's layups?

Oops I almost forgot, yes it is insane how much of a deterrent Wemby is. What is even funnier is when someone goes at him and he just grabs the ball from them like they are a child. When I criticized Wemby for no first half blocks vs MEM, that was a bit tongue in cheek because I knew they were not even trying him.

[Pauleta14]

Except that IS stupid, for him not to shoot from the paint but rather dish to "wide open" brick layers instead.

Now, I will admit that for each of his 7 turnovers, I don't recall exactly which dumb mistake he was repeating. Was it the dribbling in traffic, or trying too fancy of a pass? Not sure, but I'm ready to see an end to moronic mistakes, since we have been treated to a lifetime of those in one season. I don't care who is making the moronic mistakes, but 7 turnovers is far too many of them. And he has high usage, is tired, blah blah but in the end those are all just excuses.

Like I said, the positive when Wemby screws up is he is less likely to blame the team or city or whatever. And those ping pong balls, keep them coming! So while I gripe about it from the viewpoint of a fan who just wanted to see a win, the reality is I am not concerned either, consider it just my coping mechanism.

I know I look like a Wemby Stan and it’s all good banter but I’m really not. Im too old for this shit lol

I insist on the big picture/perspective thing bc everything is related. What you call “moronic” TOs are not really when u look at them in details rather than just the numbers.

Some are stupid of course but we would need a better name than Alien if he didn’t have any TOs or stupid decisions considering his high % usage and playmaking duties/ambitions.

we keep pointing out the low overall BBIQ of this roster, guess what? It does impact Wemby’s TO as well bc most of his TOs are miscommunications, either him improvising or his teammates not “reading him”. It’s easy to fix and not in the list of priorities the same way those were in the beginning of the season for ex.

As you pointed out it easy to imagine Wemby watching films a being self critic, so BIG PICTURE (my point from the start) those TOs aren’t really a big deal or something to worry about as of now.

cheers ;)

[RC_Drunkford]

I don't understand why people here are surprised that our team can't shoot 3s. Do y'all realize who the coach is?


Prior to the Spurs' 108-107 win over the Chicago Bulls on Monday, Popovich elaborated on how much he loathes the three-point shot, per Sam Smith of the Bulls' official site: "I hate it, but I always have. I've hated the three for 20 years.

[Splits]

From what I saw, Victor had way more than three blocks in this game, I was talking to a person sitting next to me and we thought there was at least six or seven but maybe we're crazy. Also, there was an amazing but small play that occurred that to me showed how strong of a defensive presence victor is. On the same possession two different players started driving towards the paint towards Victor and then just turned around, like nope not going in there. It was something I'd never seen before, which is a cliche people say when you go to see him play in person, but for me it was true.

Well on at least 2 occasions he would have had easy blocks but the primary defender got beat, his man got into the paint, and the defender tried to recover and fouled instead of letting VW swat it easily. I know Keldon did this once, but there was at least one other time this happened last night (don't remember who, maybe Branham or Sochan?)

On that possession where the two guys both dribbled into the paint and were like ah hell naw, that was a 2 on 1 fast break where he was trailing the play, and single handedly stopped it. Was pretty funny :lmao

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[Knoxxx]

Well on at least 2 occasions he would have had easy blocks but the primary defender got beat, his man got into the paint, and the defender tried to recover and fouled instead of letting VW swat it easily. I know Keldon did this once, but there was at least one other time this happened last night (don't remember who, maybe Branham or Sochan?)

On that possession where the two guys both dribbled into the paint and were like ah hell naw, that was a 2 on 1 fast break where he was trailing the play, and single handedly stopped it. Was pretty funny :lmao

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Branham was the fool who fouled and cost Wemby a block. That video is hilarious!

[paperboy77]

Yeah but still miles better than Jeremy.

[Knoxxx]

Where is our Suns game thread?

[Knoxxx]

I hereby retract my request for a Suns game thread.