Shams: Vassell & Sochan Out for Remainder of Season

[BatManu20]

Tank time boys.

Jeremy going under the knife unfortunately. Hope he heals up quickly.

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[tonight...you]

Shit. Well there goes the play-in push.

[spurraider21]

Tank time boys.

Dev going under the knife unfortunately. Hope he heals up quickly.
theyve only confirmed surgery for sochan

[Mugen]

How serious is that Devin injury long-term tbh?

[Mugen]

Would be nice to get Sidy some mins instead of Graham/Mamu tbh.

[LeBowen]

Devin can't stay healthy, big concern going forward.

[rascal]

Playing to keep the top 14%

[exstatic]

Devin can't stay healthy, big concern going forward.

Only last year did he miss appreciable time. Other than that, he played 62/72 (second COVID season that started in Dec) as a rookie, 71/82 in year two, and 68/82 this year.

[SouthernFryd]

Sometimes surgery ain't the best move in cases like this. Depends, but I know a few guys that the surgery made things worse than just sitting for a few weeks and letting things heal on their own.

Each case is different, but I'm not sure I trust anyone in the Spurs organization any longer...and that includes their doctors. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to be doing this for other reasons like tanking. I'm sure POP remembers how Davids injury got them Duncan. That was real. Is this? Yeah, I know, conspiracy. But I don't trust anything or anyone associated in the NBA anymore. And conspiracies are often times real.

The NBA has become Woke...and that includes all the rot and corruption that being Woke brings with it.

[BackHome]

I am sure these guys can afford and get a second or third opinion from a top surgeons

[MackAttack003]

Oooh. there goes that word again. and he even capitalized it.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

April Fools Day?

[exstatic]

Sometimes surgery ain't the best move in cases like this. Depends, but I know a few guys that the surgery made things worse than just sitting for a few weeks and letting things heal on their own.

Each case is different, but I'm not sure I trust anyone in the Spurs organization any longer...and that includes their doctors. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to be doing this for other reasons like tanking. I'm sure POP remembers how Davids injury got them Duncan. That was real. Is this? Yeah, I know, conspiracy. But I don't trust anything or anyone associated in the NBA anymore. And conspiracies are often times real.

The NBA has become Woke...and that includes all the rot and corruption that being Woke brings with it.

I almost did a real response to this, but erased it. Up your dosage, dude. The current level is no longer sufficient.

[BackHome]

So Vassell injury is not that serious basically no running for 4 to 6 weeks so no surgery is needed

[BatManu20]

theyve only confirmed surgery for sochan

Whoops my b. Fixed.

[tonight...you]

I almost did a real response to this, but erased it. Up your dosage, dude. The current level is no longer sufficient.
Drinking more alcohol probably doesn't help, tbh.

[TekXX]

Get em healed up and trade em away.

[SPURt]

That foot ish sounds no bueno

[Dex]

For the purposes of this season, no big deal...let's coast into the summer, maximize draft odds, and let this rebuild really get into gear.

My only concern is Vassell. He seems a natural fit as one of Wemby's running mates, but injuries continue to be ongoing theme with him.

[Knoxxx]

I almost did a real response to this, but erased it. Up your dosage, dude. The current level is no longer sufficient.

When you see that cliche ass word, serious failed IQ test!

[Knoxxx]

So Vassell injury is not that serious basically no running for 4 to 6 weeks so no surgery is needed

I'm sure Wemby could come down with a 2-week version overnight but we'll enjoy him almost beating teams single handedly in the meantime. I like getting a better look at the bench players also, all makes sense.

[BacktoBasics]

Sometimes surgery ain't the best move in cases like this. Depends, but I know a few guys that the surgery made things worse than just sitting for a few weeks and letting things heal on their own.

Each case is different, but I'm not sure I trust anyone in the Spurs organization any longer...and that includes their doctors. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to be doing this for other reasons like tanking. I'm sure POP remembers how Davids injury got them Duncan. That was real. Is this? Yeah, I know, conspiracy. But I don't trust anything or anyone associated in the NBA anymore. And conspiracies are often times real.

The NBA has become Woke...and that includes all the rot and corruption that being Woke brings with it.

A trumptard spouting conspiracies and refusing to trust or believe medical professionals.

Never seen that before.

[Knoxxx]

A trumptard spouting conspiracies and refusing to trust or believe medical professionals.

Never seen that before.

I bet he loved the "social justice" jerseys!

[Rosewood]

Win three games in a row and PATFO panics and pulls everyone :lol

[exstatic]

Win three games in a row and PATFO panics and pulls everyone :lol

Better now than like Memphis, a game too late after they lost their spot.

[Knoxxx]

Soundss like Sochan has a bone spur and Vassell has a sore foot but not an actual stress fracture.

[RC_Drunkford]

So is the Sochan surgery real or are we just tanking? And how long will he have to sit afterwards? We need him to put in serious work in the offseason for that 3rd year leap

[TrainOfThought5]

Sometimes surgery ain't the best move in cases like this. Depends, but I know a few guys that the surgery made things worse than just sitting for a few weeks and letting things heal on their own.

Each case is different, but I'm not sure I trust anyone in the Spurs organization any longer...and that includes their doctors. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to be doing this for other reasons like tanking. I'm sure POP remembers how Davids injury got them Duncan. That was real. Is this? Yeah, I know, conspiracy. But I don't trust anything or anyone associated in the NBA anymore. And conspiracies are often times real.

The NBA has become Woke...and that includes all the rot and corruption that being Woke brings with it.


the spurs are tanking because the NBA is woke? Jesus Christ I’m sick of white people.

[KobesAchilles]

Maybe now we can get some actual wins. Neither player should be on the team in 3 years time ideally

[Knoxxx]

Sochan procedure sounds minor an impingement means they just have to shave a little bone off to regain free movement probably arthroscopic.

[Proxy]

For the purposes of this season, no big deal...let's coast into the summer, maximize draft odds, and let this rebuild really get into gear.

My only concern is Vassell. He seems a natural fit as one of Wemby's running mates, but injuries continue to be ongoing theme with him.

this one says his left foot... looking through his injury history, looks like it's always something with his left leg. The knee is the one that's been the culprit the most often, but I never got the impression they were serious injuries though. Always seemed more cautionary or tank focused. I admittedly can't remember every instance though, so I might be underestimating it all

[Mal]

So Wemby playing for individual awards, but Spurs need to surround him with so little talent to secure bottom 3. Got it

[JPB]

So Wemby playing for individual awards, but Spurs need to surround him with so little talent to secure bottom 3. Got it

Don't be surprised is Wemby's ankle is sidelining him too for the last 5 games or so.

[exstatic]

So Wemby playing for individual awards, but Spurs need to surround him with so little talent to secure bottom 3. Got ithe's already got his 65 games played, so his next ankle sprain likely shelves him, too.

[jjspur]

I'd be really surprised if they win 1 more game with their dynamic duo out for the season. An "injury" for Wemby is probably coming very soon. Hopefully it keeps their 12.5 % of the pin balls intact. While we're going on this path, couldn't Pop develop back problems or something and let someone else coach the team. Its not like they were going to win that many more times anyway.

[exstatic]

I'd be really surprised if they win 1 more game with their dynamic duo out for the season. An "injury" for Wemby is probably coming very soon. Hopefully it keeps their 12.5 % of the pin balls intact. While we're going on this path, couldn't Pop develop back problems or something and let someone else coach the team. Its not like they were going to win that many more times anyway.

Right now, they’re tied for 3/4 with Charlotte, but there are no ties or tie breakers in the lottery,other than coin flips, so, if we lose out, we’ll get a coin flip to determine 3/4. Also, Charlotte and Portland play (maybe tomorrow?) and that relieves pressure one way or another. I think Portland then plays Washington. We play Memphis, who don’t seem to be playing the Tank game,and Detroit for our last game. Hopefully, there will be at least a one game cushion by then.

[rascal]

Right now, they’re tied for 3/4 with Charlotte, but there are no ties or tie breakers in the lottery,other than coin flips, so, if we lose out, we’ll get a coin flip to determine 3/4. Also, Charlotte and Portland play (maybe tomorrow?) and that relieves pressure one way or another. I think Portland then plays Washington. We play Memphis, who don’t seem to be playing the Tank game,and Detroit for our last game. Hopefully, there will be at least a one game cushion by then.

It would be a shame to lose the top three 14% lottery probabilities in the last few games after being there all year. Pop can easily throw games with crazy lineups.

[exstatic]

It would be a shame to lose the top three 14% lottery probabilities in the last few games after being there all year. Pop can easily throw games with crazy lineups.

There’s 5 of the 7 games they won’t have to throw. We play Denver twice, and they’re involved in a 3 way battle for positions 1-3 in the West, separated by 1/2 game. We play New Orleans. We play Philly. We play in OKC. Those are all Ls. We also play Memphis, who are still winning games. That’s probably an L. The last game, We play Detroit, but they’re pretty locked in the 1-3 slots with 14%, so we could probably lose that, too.

[jjspur]

What are the odds that we lose by 20-30 points in half of our remaining games ? Its not going to be a pretty ending to the year is it ? Maybe we can be Detroit ?

[Spurminator]

A trumptard spouting conspiracies and refusing to trust or believe medical professionals.

Never seen that before.

The speed at which these morons go from zero to "wOkE" never gets less jarring.

[MultiTroll]

Not so sure this hurts our tanking chances, not helps.

Lets see if whomever gets subbed in can throw an open pass / lob to a wide open Wemby.

[spurraider21]

The speed at which these morons go from zero to "wOkE" never gets less jarring.
it becomes a lot less jarring when you accept that woke is just a stand-in for the n word

[Mitch Cumsteen]

Pop can easily throw games with crazy lineups.

And the best part is that nobody would be able to tell the difference.

[Mal]

he's already got his 65 games played, so his next ankle sprain likely shelves him, too.

I mean, he is locked for ROTY, but maybe some crazy stats would put him over Gobbert. Who knows

[BatManu20]

I mean, he is locked for ROTY, but maybe some crazy stats would put him over Gobbert. Who knows

Wemby ain’t winning DPOY unfortunately, no matter how many more Stocks he gets. Gobert has it on lock I fear.

[spurraider21]

Wemby ain’t winning DPOY unfortunately, no matter how many more Stocks he gets. Gobert has it on lock I fear.
yeah. i think he may get a handful of first place votes but i think gobert will win easily.

[The Truth #6]

Wemby ain’t winning DPOY unfortunately, no matter how many more Stocks he gets. Gobert has it on lock I fear.

If VW doesn't play, people can see how bad our defense really is for a whole game, and that might help him statistically, at least indirectly, make the case for DPOY.

[Mal]

If VW doesn't play, people can see how bad our defense really is for a whole game, and that might help him statistically, at least indirectly, make the case for DPOY.

You already have this number with his on/off court. If I remember correctly it's around 8pts difference.

[poopbox]

Sometimes surgery ain't the best move in cases like this. Depends, but I know a few guys that the surgery made things worse than just sitting for a few weeks and letting things heal on their own.

Each case is different, but I'm not sure I trust anyone in the Spurs organization any longer...and that includes their doctors. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to be doing this for other reasons like tanking. I'm sure POP remembers how Davids injury got them Duncan. That was real. Is this? Yeah, I know, conspiracy. But I don't trust anything or anyone associated in the NBA anymore. And conspiracies are often times real.

The NBA has become Woke...and that includes all the rot and corruption that being Woke brings with it.

Devin and Sochan being out = woke :lol

[exstatic]

Wemby ain’t winning DPOY unfortunately, no matter how many more Stocks he gets. Gobert has it on lock I fear.

The odds have steadily been evening out. Hopefully, there’s enough young media, and the old guard doesn’t carry the day with their old ideas.

[spurraider21]

The odds have steadily been evening out. Hopefully, there’s enough young media, and the old guard doesn’t carry the day with their old ideas.
eh. was like 1-2 weeks ago i think wemby got as close as +800 or +900 or so, now at +1300 or so depending on where you look

and its not like there arent stats that benefit gobert either, and not just team defensive rating... pretty sure his FG% allowed in the paint is lower, he also statistically deters more shots at the rim iirc, particularly on/off

tho thats rarely the rational for gobert that you hear from media folks who have the votes, is usually just "spurs defense bad, wolves defense good"

[Dex]

eh. was like 1-2 weeks ago i think wemby got as close as +800 or +900 or so, now at +1300 or so depending on where you look

and its not like there arent stats that benefit gobert either, and not just team defensive rating... pretty sure his FG% allowed in the paint is lower, he also statistically deters more shots at the rim iirc, particularly on/off

tho thats rarely the rational for gobert that you hear from media folks who have the votes, is usually just "spurs defense bad, wolves defense good"

It should be based on individual impact but let's be honest...Spurs are barely going to clear 20 wins.

It's not Wemby's fault, he is doing all that can be expected of him...but those contributions leading to winning does matter.

[scott]

Tanking is not who we are.

Close this fucker out with a 7 game win streak.

[SouthernFryd]

Devin and Sochan being out = woke :lol

The whole NBA is woke. Them being out is just part of the Entire NBA being woke. Pay attention.

[SouthernFryd]

Tanking is not who we are.

Close this fucker out with a 7 game win streak.

Tanking is not who we WERE.

Close this fucker out with a 7 game win streak.

Fixed.

[SouthernFryd]

Well, at least Denvers "hype squad" is cute....

[CGD]

Well, at least Denvers "hype squad" is cute....

They’re blond anyway

[SouthernFryd]

They’re blond anyway

...and much cuter.

[SouthernFryd]

Branham goes from GOAT to goat crap in one quarter.

[BacktoBasics]

The whole NBA is woke. Them being out is just part of the Entire NBA being woke. Pay attention.

Then get the fuck out of here. Everyone is sick and tired of hearing shit from dumbfucks like you.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to continue going back to a product that you wholly disagree with.

If you had half the integrity you virtue signal to then you’d walk away from this team and league on principle alone.

But here you are. Weak AF. No backbone. Tiny little lonely dick and constant need to shove your bullshit into every public square.

Fucking pussy incel.

[SouthernFryd]

Then get the fuck out of here. Everyone is sick and tired of hearing shit from dumbfucks like you.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to continue going back to a product that you wholly disagree with.

If you had half the integrity you virtue signal to then you’d walk away from this team and league on principle alone.

But here you are. Weak AF. No backbone. Tiny little lonely dick and constant need to shove your bullshit into every public square.

Fucking pussy incel.

Hey, asshole...who the fuck are you? Just another WOKE fucking nobody. I want basketball back...and you want WOKE ass shit like this. YOU are the problem. People like you accepting this crap instead of demanding better basketball. We want Basketball back. And will fight idiots like you every step of the way to get it back. So, take your woke ass somewhere else...like Street dancing. Or join a womens swim team...

[BacktoBasics]

Hey, asshole...who the fuck are you? Just another WOKE fucking nobody. I want basketball back...and you want WOKE ass shit like this. YOU are the problem. People like you accepting this crap instead of demanding better basketball. We want Basketball back. And will fight idiots like you every step of the way to get it back. So, take your woke ass somewhere else...like Street dancing. Or join a womens swim team...
Demand all you want. No one’s listening. You’re a marginalized group of morons.

Imagine the level of stupidity you must have to go to a place you despise, where everyone hates you and thinking that you’re somehow promoting change.

That’s the kind of logic a serial abuser uses when he thinks beating his wife is teaching her a lesson.

[SouthernFryd]

Demand all you want. No one’s listening. You’re a marginalized group of morons.

Imagine the level of stupidity you must have to go to a place you despise, where everyone hates you and thinking that you’re somehow promoting change.

That’s the kind of logic a serial abuser uses when he thinks beating his wife is teaching her a lesson.

Man, you're a real fucking prick. Had you on ignore, now I know why. Fuck off.

[BatManu20]

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[BacktoBasics]

Man, you're a real fucking prick. Had you on ignore, now I know why. Fuck off.

Oh no not ignore. Not cancel culture. Please don’t cancel me 😂. You’re so woke. Fuck off little pussy. Go find another forum to complain to.

No one wants to hear your little bitch ass whine.

[scott]

Elite mobile XBox setup Jeremy has. Wonder what he's playing.

[pad300]

Elite mobile XBox setup Jeremy has. Wonder what he's playing.

I'm guessing it's a hospital rental...

[scott]

I'm guessing it's a hospital rental...

Looks like it is this model... I doubt that the hospital has $1200 gaming cases (plus the $500 XBox) they rent out.

https://poga.gg/products/poga-sly

[BatManu20]

:lol

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[spurraider21]

Elite mobile XBox setup Jeremy has. Wonder what he's playing.
oh great. he chooses xbox over ps5

even more reason to question his judgment and decision making

[offset formation]

Sometimes surgery ain't the best move in cases like this. Depends, but I know a few guys that the surgery made things worse than just sitting for a few weeks and letting things heal on their own.

Each case is different, but I'm not sure I trust anyone in the Spurs organization any longer...and that includes their doctors. Hell, I wouldn't put it past them to be doing this for other reasons like tanking. I'm sure POP remembers how Davids injury got them Duncan. That was real. Is this? Yeah, I know, conspiracy. But I don't trust anything or anyone associated in the NBA anymore. And conspiracies are often times real.

The NBA has become Woke...and that includes all the rot and corruption that being Woke brings with it.

Oh FFS. EABOD while finding a new sport to follow then. Jesus Christ, you people bore me. And I pity your suffocating closed-mindedness.

[rascal]

oh great. he chooses xbox over ps5

even more reason to question his judgment and decision making

Just look at that tatted leg for his judgment and decision making.

[BatManu20]

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[SouthernFryd]

Oh FFS. EABOD while finding a new sport to follow then. Jesus Christ, you people bore me. And I pity your suffocating closed-mindedness.

Well, when you learn to speak English maybe I'll take you seriously. Or not. "closed mindedness?" See, here's how basketball works. You either win...or you lose. WTF does close mindedness or open-minded have to do with basketball? Nothing. It has to do with things 'other' than basketball...that's where you woke fools come in. "They're a bad team, but they're open minded." WTF? lol.

You woke people sound just like the fools you are. You only make sense to your own kind who speak the same moronic language as you. Basketball don't do woke and look foolish when they try...and looking foolish is a woke trademark. Take your idiocy somewhere else. Womens soccer or ballet...they'll love you.

[The Truth #6]

Street dancing?

[TekXX]

It's pretty clear we're better without Sochan and Vassell. Players like Mamu and Graham have better basketball I.Q's

[baseline bum]

oh great. he chooses xbox over ps5

even more reason to question his judgment and decision making

LOL XBox being a walking backcourt turnover since 2011-ish

[LeBowen]

It's pretty clear we're better without Sochan and Vassell. Players like Mamu and Graham have better basketball I.Q's

Been saying it since the Warriors game.
Maybe not better, but not worse, either.

Second, third and fourth highest scorers out for the season and the rest of the roster plays three straight clutch time games against playoff teams?
One, even two could be a coincidence, but if our only 20ppg perimeter scorer isn't missed at all, it raises some serious questions about his contract.

[onechance87]

Been saying it since the Warriors game.
Maybe not better, but not worse, either.

Second, third and fourth highest scorers out for the season and the rest of the roster plays three straight clutch time games against playoff teams?
One, even two could be a coincidence, but if our only 20ppg perimeter scorer isn't missed at all, it raises some serious questions about his contract.

Makes our front office look stupid.They didnt go after any free agents cause they wanted to wait and see what
the current roster together.Then they sign vassell and collins to extentions before the season started.Now they
fucked up our cap space this summer and next year for guys who dont fit next to wemby.When we should of just waited.

[Pauleta14]

It's pretty clear we're better without Sochan and Vassell. Players like Mamu and Graham have better basketball I.Q's

BBIQ/feel for the game AND passing abilities

those 2 criterias have to be the main focus this summer

[offset formation]

Well, when you learn to speak English maybe I'll take you seriously. Or not. "closed mindedness?" See, here's how basketball works. You either win...or you lose. WTF does close mindedness or open-minded have to do with basketball? Nothing. It has to do with things 'other' than basketball...that's where you woke fools come in. "They're a bad team, but they're open minded." WTF? lol.

You woke people sound just like the fools you are. You only make sense to your own kind who speak the same moronic language as you. Basketball don't do woke and look foolish when they try...and looking foolish is a woke trademark. Take your idiocy somewhere else. Womens soccer or ballet...they'll love you.

I responded to your post bemoaning the woke movement of the NBA and then you have the gumption to respond that I'm bringing in things that belong outside basketball? Logic much?

[mookie2001]

Woke lol ST is back baby